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Roger9_ |
I read of in a closed issue for colored text a possible "color stack" where colors could be pushed and popped, and the top color would be used... did that ever make it into the official release? |
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lemon |
Hey |
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riff-IRC |
Night, y'all. Hope your Monday is good. |
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lemon |
Anyone wants to try my hardcore server? I installed sunbirn and darkness damaging mods. |
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MarisaG |
hi jluc, good morning |
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jluc |
'o MarisaG |
| 07:17 |
MarisaG |
know anyone interested in free hosting? I'm giving away one subscription... |
| 07:25 |
jluc |
free minetest hosting ? |
| 07:25 |
MarisaG |
yes |
| 07:26 |
jluc |
oh, can you show the site and explanations on how it works and what is provided ? |
| 07:27 |
MarisaG |
i am giving away one subscription as at https://minecity.online/HostSplash |
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MarisaG |
all my utilities and services are included |
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MarisaG |
what you woyuld normally get for $14 |
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MarisaG |
all i want is a testimonial :) |
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MarisaG |
if they like my services of course |
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jluc |
i'm interested in it, but i'm afraid i wont be willing to upgrade to a paying plan anytime when the free offer finishes |
| 07:31 |
MarisaG |
no free offer, its for lifetime |
| 07:31 |
jluc |
great ! then i'm ok with it. |
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MarisaG |
:) |
| 07:32 |
MarisaG |
what host name do you want? your server will be at "yourname.minecity.online" unless you have a domain of your own. |
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jluc |
is there a list of provided mods ? |
| 07:33 |
jluc |
lemme think... |
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MarisaG |
you can put on what mods you want, though i could see about installing them for you if you like |
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jluc |
oh we can upload and install mods on the server ? |
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MarisaG |
yes |
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jluc |
is that some special feature you developped ? |
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jluc |
coz i dont see some "upload mod" button on minetest (server or not) |
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MarisaG |
no its just normal linux hosting of minetest. You do it through the shell |
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MarisaG |
i can install most mods for you |
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jluc |
so you also give a shell access ? |
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MarisaG |
yes |
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jluc |
woaw |
| 07:35 |
jluc |
it must tricky to manage security |
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MarisaG |
my management console gives you a text interface for general server start/stop access and editing the main config file |
| 07:36 |
MarisaG |
your server will be yours, its not shared with others |
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jluc |
the "not sharing" part is tricky to secure - afaik |
| 07:37 |
jluc |
but anyway it's a game :-) |
| 07:38 |
jluc |
hope you'll enjoy for a long time the game of providing minetest server :-) |
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MarisaG |
:) |
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MarisaG |
what server name do you want, i'll get started on it |
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jluc |
i've thought a bit about it and found out |
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jluc |
plz name it ulyssenium |
| 07:40 |
MarisaG |
ok, get back with you :) |
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MarisaG |
oh, what version do you want, 4.x or 5.x? |
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jluc |
oops i'm not aware of important differences |
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jluc |
i guess 5 is uptodate with more features |
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jluc |
do many mods not run on 5 or most of them do ? |
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MarisaG |
the 4.x version is stale and supports most clients, 5.x is newer features but requires 5.x clients |
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MarisaG |
stable not stale lol |
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jluc |
are there 5 clients both for linux and windows ? |
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MarisaG |
most mods work, but the issue is the clients |
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MarisaG |
yes |
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jluc |
what is the issue for clients ? we'll start from scratch |
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MarisaG |
5 is nice if you dont worry about requiring people to be up to date |
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jluc |
(see my questions : you could include them and your answer in a FAQ on your site ;-) |
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jluc |
we'll go with 5 |
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jluc |
5 is the future (for a while) |
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MarisaG |
the 5.x server rejects 4.x clients. |
| 07:45 |
MarisaG |
ok no problem, get back with you |
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lumberJ |
only 14 a month? sounds too cheap. all the headaches you are going to have :P |
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jluc |
what country/state are you living marisaG ? |
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jluc |
will there be a list of instances on your site ? |
| 07:48 |
jluc |
our instance will be french langage (for a start at least) |
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MarisaG |
im in san francisco. Your server will be on the muinetest server browser |
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jluc |
so i'll have to provide a short description |
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MarisaG |
its up to you, though you will have to set that up as i only know english and some spanish |
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jluc |
There is a huge potential with minetest lumberJ ... |
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MarisaG |
yes, email it to me at fstltna yahoo.com |
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MarisaG |
working on your server... |
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lumberJ |
not sure what you mean by that, jluc |
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lumberJ |
i'm saying MarisaG is not charging enough for the services she is offering |
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lumberJ |
jluc, i run my own server and i know how much work it is to keep updated, especially when you are adding new mods, or updating the game engine. stuff breaks regularly. |
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lumberJ |
add on top of that letting inexperienced admins muck around adding mods, on development builds of minetest |
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jluc |
in case she lacks experience with such work, then MarisaG will learn a lot with this experience |
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lumberJ |
servers will be crashing left and right and they will be expecting her to make all their problems go away |
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jluc |
and that is very precious |
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jluc |
and high school is very expansive in her country afaik ! |
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lumberJ |
i'm not saying she's inexperienced. if she is experienced. all the reason to charge more |
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jluc |
so it's possibly worth it |
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lumberJ |
high school is free in the u.s. |
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lumberJ |
unless you go to private school |
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jluc |
so why do student rises by millions every year ? |
| 07:54 |
jluc |
so why do student DEBT rises by millions every year ? |
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jluc |
learning by doing is the best |
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lumberJ |
you mean college/university? |
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lumberJ |
high school is different |
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jluc |
could ben i'm no specialist |
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lumberJ |
i am. i live here :P |
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lumberJ |
and i have plenty of student debt to prove :D |
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jluc |
so why do many student prefer engaging huge debts rather than going to free schools ? |
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lumberJ |
high school ~= university |
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lumberJ |
highschool is free, college/university is not |
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jluc |
these 2 last lines are confusing |
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jluc |
university is both free and not ? |
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lumberJ |
its because in English college means university |
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lumberJ |
i think college sounds like the word for high school in french |
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lumberJ |
if it is similar to spanish |
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lumberJ |
college does not mean high school in english. College is basically the same thing as university |
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jluc |
in france, high school are ... free or public quality professionnal school you go to when you're about 20 and when you dont go to university (which is a bit less professionnal and a bit more for research or for general studies) |
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lumberJ |
high school is only secondary school here. it is not professional training |
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jluc |
err i meant : are "private or public" |
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lumberJ |
high school students are 14-18 years old here |
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jluc |
oh that's "Lycée" here |
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jluc |
or "Collège" for the 14-16 |
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jluc |
complex culture intricacies... |
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lumberJ |
yes |
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jluc |
i agree "letting inexperienced admins muck around adding mods, on development builds of minetest" is tricky / risky |
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lumberJ |
it is fine. i just think she should charge more if she plans to offer such a high level of individualized service |
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jluc |
but a nice challenge to give that ability without the risks |
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lumberJ |
hopefully automatic daily backups are built in to the system |
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jluc |
hehe |
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lumberJ |
because people are definitely going to be breaking their servers or ruining their maps on a regular basis |
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lumberJ |
i once joined a server where an admin was granting everyone that joined all privileges... |
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lumberJ |
including worldedit |
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lumberJ |
lol. i think that server lasted less than a week |
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jluc |
i sent you a mail MarisaG |
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jluc |
it seems MarisaG has quite some experience with game servers |
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jluc |
:-) |
| 08:17 |
jluc |
she probably doesnt offer more she can deal with |
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jluc |
maybe even she could teach game hosting at the university ;-) |
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jluc |
anyway what is your server homepage lumberJ ? |
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lumberJ |
jluc: lumberjack-hacks.net : 30000 |
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lumberJ |
sorry, i'm at work so i have to go afk from time to time |
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lumberJ |
going offline, now but may be back on in a couple hours |
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riff-IRC |
Hello? |
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