Time Nick Message 00:07 Roger9_ I read of in a closed issue for colored text a possible "color stack" where colors could be pushed and popped, and the top color would be used... did that ever make it into the official release? 03:00 lemon Hey 03:01 riff-IRC Night, y'all. Hope your Monday is good. 03:02 lemon Anyone wants to try my hardcore server? I installed sunbirn and darkness damaging mods. 07:01 MarisaG hi jluc, good morning 07:09 jluc 'o MarisaG 07:17 MarisaG know anyone interested in free hosting? I'm giving away one subscription... 07:25 jluc free minetest hosting ? 07:25 MarisaG yes 07:26 jluc oh, can you show the site and explanations on how it works and what is provided ? 07:27 MarisaG i am giving away one subscription as at https://minecity.online/HostSplash 07:28 MarisaG all my utilities and services are included 07:28 MarisaG what you woyuld normally get for $14 07:28 MarisaG all i want is a testimonial :) 07:29 MarisaG if they like my services of course 07:30 jluc i'm interested in it, but i'm afraid i wont be willing to upgrade to a paying plan anytime when the free offer finishes 07:31 MarisaG no free offer, its for lifetime 07:31 jluc great ! then i'm ok with it. 07:31 MarisaG :) 07:32 MarisaG what host name do you want? your server will be at "yourname.minecity.online" unless you have a domain of your own. 07:32 jluc is there a list of provided mods ? 07:33 jluc lemme think... 07:33 MarisaG you can put on what mods you want, though i could see about installing them for you if you like 07:33 jluc oh we can upload and install mods on the server ? 07:33 MarisaG yes 07:33 jluc is that some special feature you developped ? 07:34 jluc coz i dont see some "upload mod" button on minetest (server or not) 07:34 MarisaG no its just normal linux hosting of minetest. You do it through the shell 07:34 MarisaG i can install most mods for you 07:35 jluc so you also give a shell access ? 07:35 MarisaG yes 07:35 jluc woaw 07:35 jluc it must tricky to manage security 07:36 MarisaG my management console gives you a text interface for general server start/stop access and editing the main config file 07:36 MarisaG your server will be yours, its not shared with others 07:37 jluc the "not sharing" part is tricky to secure - afaik 07:37 jluc but anyway it's a game :-) 07:38 jluc hope you'll enjoy for a long time the game of providing minetest server :-) 07:38 MarisaG :) 07:38 MarisaG what server name do you want, i'll get started on it 07:39 jluc i've thought a bit about it and found out 07:39 jluc plz name it ulyssenium 07:40 MarisaG ok, get back with you :) 07:40 MarisaG oh, what version do you want, 4.x or 5.x? 07:42 jluc oops i'm not aware of important differences 07:42 jluc i guess 5 is uptodate with more features 07:42 jluc do many mods not run on 5 or most of them do ? 07:43 MarisaG the 4.x version is stale and supports most clients, 5.x is newer features but requires 5.x clients 07:43 MarisaG stable not stale lol 07:43 jluc are there 5 clients both for linux and windows ? 07:43 MarisaG most mods work, but the issue is the clients 07:43 MarisaG yes 07:44 jluc what is the issue for clients ? we'll start from scratch 07:44 MarisaG 5 is nice if you dont worry about requiring people to be up to date 07:44 jluc (see my questions : you could include them and your answer in a FAQ on your site ;-) 07:45 jluc we'll go with 5 07:45 jluc 5 is the future (for a while) 07:45 MarisaG the 5.x server rejects 4.x clients. 07:45 MarisaG ok no problem, get back with you 07:46 lumberJ only 14 a month? sounds too cheap. all the headaches you are going to have :P 07:47 jluc what country/state are you living marisaG ? 07:47 jluc will there be a list of instances on your site ? 07:48 jluc our instance will be french langage (for a start at least) 07:48 MarisaG im in san francisco. Your server will be on the muinetest server browser 07:49 jluc so i'll have to provide a short description 07:49 MarisaG its up to you, though you will have to set that up as i only know english and some spanish 07:49 jluc There is a huge potential with minetest lumberJ ... 07:50 MarisaG yes, email it to me at fstltna@yahoo.com 07:50 MarisaG working on your server... 07:51 lumberJ not sure what you mean by that, jluc 07:51 lumberJ i'm saying MarisaG is not charging enough for the services she is offering 07:51 lumberJ jluc, i run my own server and i know how much work it is to keep updated, especially when you are adding new mods, or updating the game engine. stuff breaks regularly. 07:52 lumberJ add on top of that letting inexperienced admins muck around adding mods, on development builds of minetest 07:52 jluc in case she lacks experience with such work, then MarisaG will learn a lot with this experience 07:53 lumberJ servers will be crashing left and right and they will be expecting her to make all their problems go away 07:53 jluc and that is very precious 07:53 jluc and high school is very expansive in her country afaik ! 07:53 lumberJ i'm not saying she's inexperienced. if she is experienced. all the reason to charge more 07:53 jluc so it's possibly worth it 07:54 lumberJ high school is free in the u.s. 07:54 lumberJ unless you go to private school 07:54 jluc so why do student rises by millions every year ? 07:54 jluc so why do student DEBT rises by millions every year ? 07:54 jluc learning by doing is the best 07:54 lumberJ you mean college/university? 07:55 lumberJ high school is different 07:55 jluc could ben i'm no specialist 07:56 lumberJ i am. i live here :P 07:57 lumberJ and i have plenty of student debt to prove :D 07:57 jluc so why do many student prefer engaging huge debts rather than going to free schools ? 07:57 lumberJ high school ~= university 07:57 lumberJ highschool is free, college/university is not 07:59 jluc these 2 last lines are confusing 07:59 jluc university is both free and not ? 07:59 lumberJ its because in English college means university 07:59 lumberJ i think college sounds like the word for high school in french 07:59 lumberJ if it is similar to spanish 08:01 lumberJ college does not mean high school in english. College is basically the same thing as university 08:01 jluc in france, high school are ... free or public quality professionnal school you go to when you're about 20 and when you dont go to university (which is a bit less professionnal and a bit more for research or for general studies) 08:02 lumberJ high school is only secondary school here. it is not professional training 08:02 jluc err i meant : are "private or public" 08:02 lumberJ high school students are 14-18 years old here 08:02 jluc oh that's "Lycée" here 08:03 jluc or "Collège" for the 14-16 08:03 jluc complex culture intricacies... 08:03 lumberJ yes 08:05 jluc i agree "letting inexperienced admins muck around adding mods, on development builds of minetest" is tricky / risky 08:05 lumberJ it is fine. i just think she should charge more if she plans to offer such a high level of individualized service 08:05 jluc but a nice challenge to give that ability without the risks 08:08 lumberJ hopefully automatic daily backups are built in to the system 08:09 jluc hehe 08:09 lumberJ because people are definitely going to be breaking their servers or ruining their maps on a regular basis 08:12 lumberJ i once joined a server where an admin was granting everyone that joined all privileges... 08:12 lumberJ including worldedit 08:13 lumberJ lol. i think that server lasted less than a week 08:15 jluc i sent you a mail MarisaG 08:16 jluc it seems MarisaG has quite some experience with game servers 08:16 jluc :-) 08:17 jluc she probably doesnt offer more she can deal with 08:18 jluc maybe even she could teach game hosting at the university ;-) 08:20 jluc anyway what is your server homepage lumberJ ? 09:35 lumberJ jluc: lumberjack-hacks.net : 30000 09:36 lumberJ sorry, i'm at work so i have to go afk from time to time 09:36 lumberJ going offline, now but may be back on in a couple hours 11:49 riff-IRC Hello?