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red-001 |
nobis tech eh? |
00:01 |
red-001 |
never heard of them |
00:02 |
red-001 |
funny thing the top google search for them is spam |
00:03 |
red-001 |
ah it's good old uniquity server solutions |
00:04 |
VanessaE |
me neither. |
00:05 |
red-001 |
VanessaE, funny thing that OC being all high and mightly likes to use the same IP ranges and domain names the spammers, hackers, scammers and all other sorts of people involved in illegal actitives also use |
00:05 |
VanessaE |
in any case I don't give two fucks and a fart about his VPSs. |
00:05 |
VanessaE |
I blocked all of gorillaservers at my firewall. |
00:06 |
* red-001 |
shills a certain mod |
00:06 |
VanessaE |
/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -s 104.250.128.0/19 -j DROP |
00:07 |
* red-001 |
waits for OC to move his sites to whatever freedom hosting replacement is big right now |
00:08 |
VanessaE |
heh |
00:08 |
red-001 |
with the sorts of key words that they have, they would fit right in |
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Gallium |
Once KiwiIRC is blocked, I have multiple VPNs... so moderation will be the only option. Tell Auke Kok that his attorney slipped up. And is going to go up his, hm, assumptions. BTW folks, check out http://leonardduboff.com/ (And, Andrew, you can't block snailmail) Jordach... Do you have any idea of what we could have accomplished last year? What you |
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Gallium |
r decisions have cost the project? It's like you wanted to burn it all down. |
00:12 |
Gallium |
Andrew, you are a coward |
00:12 |
Gallium |
You post "Yup, yup, yup", when you know the truth |
00:12 |
Gallium |
Jordach, we could have finished the new game framework by now |
00:13 |
Gallium |
Does any one of you, a single person, have a conscience? Or reflect at all? Nope :) |
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00:15 |
red-001 |
> pretending we wouldn't block vpns if you force us to |
00:15 |
VanessaE |
for every VPN he thinks he has, we have twice as much ban capacity. :P |
00:17 |
red-001 |
have to say these IPs serve as a good verification for the mod |
00:17 |
Cornelia |
O.o |
00:17 |
Cornelia |
I feel I missed something.. but somehow think I know what's going on. :P |
00:18 |
VanessaE |
don't ask, Cornelia |
00:18 |
VanessaE |
you don't want to know. |
00:18 |
Cornelia |
Probably not, but that's the worst thing you can tell someone who doesn't know what's going on. :P |
00:18 |
red-001 |
maybe it's reverse pyschology (its not) |
00:19 |
VanessaE |
as for moderation, he shouldn't tempt me, because if it comes down to it, I'm not afraid to set the necessary flags...... |
00:19 |
red-001 |
it's good partice for people to register and ID with freenode anyways |
00:20 |
VanessaE |
Cornelia: short version: that man is Robert Kiraly, a troll. He thinks every high-profile Minetest user and most if not all the devs are involved in DDoS'ing servers he owns, and he thinks all of the above plus most of freenode high brass are part of a child porno ring. |
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Cornelia |
I registered a year ago... And then sometime this year someone started trying to use my nick. :P |
00:20 |
VanessaE |
he is more often known as OldCoder |
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red-001 |
it's like pizzagate but it makes less sense |
00:21 |
VanessaE |
HA! |
00:21 |
* ThomasMonroe |
hides from the unspoken name |
00:22 |
red-001 |
honestly half the time I don't know if he is a troll, deluisional or both |
00:23 |
Cornelia |
I.. uh... Erhmm... https://i.imgur.com/7kZ562z.jpg |
00:23 |
VanessaE |
Cornelia: you win the internet :) |
00:23 |
VanessaE |
lol |
00:23 |
VanessaE |
red-001: both. |
00:23 |
VanessaE |
part and parcel. |
00:25 |
red-001 |
well if he continues he might get a spot on infowars |
00:25 |
VanessaE |
lol |
00:27 |
red-001 |
I think we could fix this issue by blocking accounts not logged in with freenode between 11:00 GMT and 6:00 GMT |
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red-001 |
23:00 GMT* |
00:29 |
red-001 |
so 15:00 to 22:00 OC time |
00:30 |
VanessaE |
if it were up to me I'd just block webchat entirely. |
00:30 |
VanessaE |
and not-logged-in accounts too for that matter. |
00:31 |
red-001 |
can't disagree with that |
00:31 |
red-001 |
just make sure sfan5 gets the bot to login first |
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kikaru |
*So, VanessaE, you're there. I told Arion about husband Abe & your mental and physical illnesses. Next time, my response is public and Cc'd to TV station you know. And to neighbors IRL. Wish their names? And Jordach=Shara=Toby=Sokomine I've redone a number of mods and am close to a framework. You of all people should understand my level of commitme |
00:33 |
kikaru |
nt. Explain it to others. http://minetest.org/ http://aukekok.com/ nore Rubenwardy shivajiva |
00:33 |
red-001 |
VanessaE, got another one? |
00:33 |
kikaru |
Tell Red and Vanessa to note the post on minetest.org of a "log disabled" chat *after* was kicked last month. Don't bother with [off]. And tell Red... is he enough of a fool that he doesn't understand the difference between throwaway identities and ones that I spend more time on? Who else in the current room is me? :) |
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kikaru |
:) |
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00:33 |
red-001 |
rubenwardy, mind temp blocking users that are not logged in? |
00:34 |
VanessaE |
"Cc'd to TV station you know. And to neighbors IRL" HAH! don't make me laugh. |
00:34 |
red-001 |
can a TV station get a restraining order? |
00:34 |
VanessaE |
I assume so |
00:34 |
red-001 |
I'm sure Oldcoder would know |
00:35 |
rubenwardy |
so, he divulges peoples health issues to the public internet and in emails |
00:35 |
rubenwardy |
yet he's the victim here |
00:35 |
rubenwardy |
\o/ |
00:35 |
pgimeno |
wasn't there a mode to ignore PMs from non-registered users as well? can't remember how that was set |
00:35 |
Unit193 |
/umode +R |
00:35 |
VanessaE |
pgimeno: usermode +R I think |
00:36 |
pgimeno |
thanks |
00:36 |
red-001 |
rubenwardy, he was the victim whose free speech was being blocked when his family filled a domestic abuse restraining order agaist him |
00:36 |
red-001 |
he even posted that on his site like he was proud of it |
00:36 |
VanessaE |
heh, freenode staff speaks :) |
00:36 |
rubenwardy |
red-001: is your VPS mod blocking or nonblocking? |
00:37 |
rubenwardy |
ie: I'd expect it to let users in, but only give default_privs once the IP is verified |
00:38 |
red-001 |
no it doesn't let them in, there is an API I'm planning to document asap so you can just do that with your own mod |
00:39 |
red-001 |
there are a few modes in it, but the default one kicks the user as soon as thier IP gets flagged and forces them to join with one that isn't if they want to stop getting kicked |
00:39 |
rubenwardy |
I see |
00:39 |
rubenwardy |
shouldn't be two hard to do, like 40 lines |
00:40 |
red-001 |
I just don't want to get into feature creep here |
00:40 |
rubenwardy |
it's not |
00:40 |
rubenwardy |
it should be the default mode |
00:40 |
red-001 |
but what would be the goal of it? |
00:40 |
rubenwardy |
the pre join callback is the most intensive part of my server |
00:40 |
red-001 |
letting people see the server? |
00:40 |
rubenwardy |
so I'd rather not block it with a HTTP request |
00:40 |
rubenwardy |
no no |
00:41 |
rubenwardy |
it should ban them if the IP is bad |
00:41 |
rubenwardy |
and give privs if good |
00:41 |
rubenwardy |
this would be helpful for ban avaders mostly |
00:41 |
rubenwardy |
although loads of users have dynamic IPs |
00:42 |
red-001 |
oh that would basically be the current default expect with no prives being granted |
00:42 |
red-001 |
rubenwardy, the default check runs in on_newplayer |
00:42 |
rubenwardy |
and is async? |
00:42 |
red-001 |
yes |
00:42 |
rubenwardy |
cool |
00:43 |
red-001 |
well not the way that mods should depend on it being async |
00:43 |
red-001 |
if the ip is already cached in memory it isn't async |
00:43 |
rubenwardy |
obv |
00:44 |
red-001 |
rubenwardy, is there a built in way to grant default privs to a player that mods are expected to use? |
00:45 |
rubenwardy |
the best way would to revoke all privs |
00:45 |
rubenwardy |
then read from the setting and grant again |
00:45 |
red-001 |
ok so just setting |
00:45 |
rubenwardy |
remember str_to_privs |
00:46 |
rubenwardy |
`minetest.string_to_privs(str)`: returns `{priv1=true,...}` |
00:46 |
red-001 |
rubenwardy, at what point are the default privs granted? Can I expect nothing to be attemping to mess with them once core.register_on_newplayer is being called? |
00:46 |
rubenwardy |
I'm not sure, you'll have to find out \o/ |
00:47 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/4edf08709010f721b099dfae3cab011acbdfb3ff/builtin/game/auth.lua#L104 |
00:47 |
rubenwardy |
they're set on create_auth |
00:47 |
rubenwardy |
that'll be the same time the account is made, before newplayer |
00:47 |
red-001 |
ah so I should be good them |
00:47 |
red-001 |
then* |
00:47 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/b88595050f3af5ccac06aac331ead4ebdcb9deb9/src/script/cpp_api/s_server.cpp#L106 |
00:47 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
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epoch |
so, has anyone tried to use https://github.com/mxgmn/WaveFunctionCollapse for village or general map generation? |
01:20 |
red-001 |
would freenode staff mind dealing with * [cheapie_] (526614degateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.102.20.222): [https://kiwiirc.com] Development release |
01:20 |
red-001 |
it's OC spamming the german channel |
01:24 |
red-001 |
it would be really handy right now to have a flag to block chat from unregistered users from showing up even in channels |
01:24 |
red-001 |
like +R for users but stronger |
01:24 |
Unit193 |
You mean, like channel mode +r? |
01:25 |
red-001 |
a user mode that would simulate that being set for any user with it, I can see that it could cause issues |
01:29 |
Unit193 |
Oh, well no. You can't change other users modes. |
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epoch |
+m and +v won't help? |
01:32 |
red-001 |
Unit193, not other users |
01:32 |
epoch |
won't help with join or part spam, but can with privmsg spam. |
01:32 |
epoch |
can have a bot to +l N+1 after a delay if you want to rate-limit joins |
01:32 |
red-001 |
just a usermode that simulates +R being set for any channel messages you recieve |
01:33 |
red-001 |
doesn't change anything for other users apart from thier messages not reaching you |
01:55 |
VanessaE |
fucknut keeps messaging me, demanding i give back something that was taken, but i have no idea what he's talking about not. |
01:55 |
VanessaE |
now* |
01:57 |
wilkgr |
Maybe his dignity? <g> |
01:57 |
VanessaE |
beats me |
01:58 |
VanessaE |
I'm totally clueless now what he wants. some gibberish about "diffusion of responsibility" |
01:58 |
VanessaE |
whatever that means. |
01:58 |
wilkgr |
apparently related to the bystander effect. but if we're all guilty, then none of us are bystanders, are we? |
01:59 |
VanessaE |
you got me. |
01:59 |
VanessaE |
I've no fucking idea what's going on. |
02:00 |
wilkgr |
me either haha |
02:09 |
red-001 |
VanessaE, there is a reason +R was invented |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
I thought I already had that set.... |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
well now I do |
02:10 |
red-001 |
it gets reset on connection |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
not sure how ...oh |
02:15 |
Unit193 |
VanessaE: You may want to look at your client settings, some have an option to set the defaults. Eg, mine has 'usermode' which I can set to +Qiw |
02:15 |
VanessaE |
checking... |
02:19 |
VanessaE |
eh, I'll deal with it later. |
02:19 |
VanessaE |
don't feel like digging into my znc settings (in hexchat, I found the place for it just now, and set it) |
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Sokomine |
epoch: mg_villages uses perlin noise for deciding where to place a village. that code is from nore. i still don't really understand perlin noise as such and consult nore or paramat when needed |
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wilkgr |
How do I make a texture animated rather than having Minetest squash it when defining a node? |
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epoch |
have code that is continually changing the texture? |
04:14 |
wilkgr |
Minetest supports animated textures, doing it with Lua just makes it laggy ;) |
04:14 |
epoch |
you know more about it than I do then. |
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VanessaE |
wilkgr: take a look in default/nodes.lua, search for torch, water, or lava |
04:15 |
Sokomine |
wilkgr: take a look at the texture of the furnace_active in ... |
04:15 |
wilkgr |
ah, thanks :) |
04:15 |
Sokomine |
VanessaE was faster :-) |
04:15 |
wilkgr |
got it |
04:15 |
VanessaE |
ninja'd ;) |
04:15 |
VanessaE |
hi-yah! |
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Sokomine |
exactly :-) |
04:15 |
* wilkgr |
watches piece of wood fly out the door |
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* Sokomine |
bribes a bot to ninja vanessae next time :-) |
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VanessaE |
hhe |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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wilkgr |
It works! |
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* wilkgr |
pumps fist |
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VanessaE |
:D |
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VanessaE |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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Sokomine |
*g* |
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wilkgr |
I may be the next customer |
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wilkgr |
depending if this works or not :P |
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sfan5 |
looks like he was busy tonight |
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wilkgr |
is it possible to return false for on_construct or do I need to have it remove the block and put it back into the inventory manually? |
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wilkgr |
oh wait |
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wilkgr |
never mind :) |
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Topic for #minetest is now Welcome to #minetest, official Minetest channel | Spam in PM? Do /umode +R | Latest version: 0.4.16 (2017-06-03) | Responses may take a while, be patient | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/ |
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Taoki |
Was Amaz_ OldCoder? Found myself email with more bizarre messages earlier. |
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Taoki |
Sorry, PM not email |
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rubenwardy |
Taoki: yes |
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rubenwardy |
do /umode +R |
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rubenwardy |
will stop PMs |
13:36 |
rubenwardy |
from unregistered users |
13:36 |
Taoki |
I should keep this in mind. Thanks. |
13:36 |
* Taoki |
siiiighs |
13:37 |
Taoki |
He was a good and sane guy when I knew him years ago... jeez >_< |
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Sketch2 |
started on a '302' https://mobile.twitter.com/doyousketch2/status/965941384036388864 |
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lisac |
wtf https://pastebin.com/ucDpwce6 |
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Taoki |
lisac: Yeah, that's the exact PM I got. |
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Sketch2 |
ouch. Sounds like someone's a muck-raker |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Vertical biome blend: Tune blend patterns f9ad061 https://git.io/vAR6O (2018-02-20T15:28:52Z) |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Dungeons: Add Y limits in all mapgens 2bc7c5f https://git.io/vAR63 (2018-02-20T15:25:37Z) |
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red-001 |
Taoki, he did seem sane a while back |
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red-001 |
lisac, ignore and wait for the k-line |
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xerox123_ |
Ye olde developer is back, eh? |
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red-001 |
aye |
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red-001 |
ye olde codie ist back |
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red-001 |
he is repeating all those words he knows again |
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BillyS |
YAYZW |
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BillyS |
For having so many users, this channel is pretty quiet rn |
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sfan5 |
it's always quiet |
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BillyS |
..except when OC joins. Then the bans fly. :P |
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red-001 |
rubenwardy, btw I edited the mod to remove the user privs before regranting them once the IP address is verified |
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BillyS |
At least, the time I was here when he joined it got pretty chaotic |
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rubenwardy |
nice! |
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BillyS |
I think I may start using encryption so that only people who I trust with the key can read what I say, ie not OC. |
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sy |
totally agree, in fact i also think that 41399729632c0c73e6eaefd3711371ea15744888 |
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BillyS |
heh |
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BillyS |
To anyone who uses ZNC, you can use the crypt module |
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rubenwardy |
if you speak in |
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rubenwardy |
if you speak in a minetest channel purely encrypted, you will be kicked/muted/banned |
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rubenwardy |
use OTR or similar for PMs |
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rubenwardy |
but don't for channels |
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AndroBuilder |
how far is minetest 0.5. from beeing official? since it's still in dev? |
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AndroBuilder |
what changed according to "creative mode/priv" from 0.4.16 to 0.5_dev ? |
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Sketch2 |
unspecified months. |
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Krock |
nothing much has changed there IIRC |
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AndroBuilder |
ok and another question, how can i change the "surface"/texture of a any block to change to f.e. red? |
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Krock |
what's a surface node buy your definition? dirt, dirt with grass, sand? |
18:55 |
Krock |
s/buy/by/ |
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AndroBuilder |
any block ... would be great to have like a red texture instead of the node-typical?! |
18:57 |
AndroBuilder |
i managed to "replace" any block with a "red-colored-dirt block" .... but it would be better to color it just like using a sprey can |
18:57 |
Krock |
if it only should affect your current client, then you could modify the shaders to add a red touch. Otherwise you'd have to loop though each node (minetest.registered_nodes) and overwrite the tile definition with a ^[colorize modifier |
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rubenwardy |
hardware could be used if the node doesn't use param2 |
18:58 |
rubenwardy |
(eg: isn't rotatable) |
18:59 |
Krock |
that requires a palette and paramtype2 definition.. also quite much effort |
18:59 |
AndroBuilder |
mhhh ounds complicated |
18:59 |
rubenwardy |
oh no! |
18:59 |
rubenwardy |
forums.minetest.net is down! |
18:59 |
rubenwardy |
everyone panic! |
18:59 |
rubenwardy |
aha, there goes c55's VPS |
18:59 |
Krock |
s/forums/forum/ |
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rubenwardy |
should be forums :P |
19:00 |
Krock |
minetest.net too |
19:01 |
Krock |
rip. *throws some flowers at screen* |
19:04 |
red-001 |
if minetest.net is down doesn't that mean the DNS got messed up? |
19:05 |
red-001 |
I thought that was pointed to github servers |
19:05 |
rubenwardy |
no, there's a reverse proxy for HTTPs reasons |
19:05 |
red-001 |
ah |
19:09 |
red-001 |
on the bright side the server list wasn't hosted on it so it's still up |
19:11 |
red-001 |
huh I didn't know someone setup a mailing list for minetest |
19:12 |
rubenwardy |
there isn't |
19:12 |
rubenwardy |
+? |
19:12 |
red-001 |
there is a subdomain for it https://lists.minetest.net/ |
19:13 |
rubenwardy |
oh odd |
19:13 |
rubenwardy |
never been used afaik |
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* red-001 |
signs up for the list |
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AndroBuilder |
ShadowNinja: two question about your areas mod :) 1) is there an integration with WorldEdit? (so marked Areas in WE will be protectable/nameable/... and 2.) is it possible like in the issue 4 to add a group-support? maybe the mod factions (https://github.com/sapier/factions) so group leaders can add protected areas f.a. |
19:23 |
AndroBuilder |
f.e |
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raymoo[m] |
Is something wrong with the forums? |
20:11 |
raymoo[m] |
Oh my matrix log just loaded |
20:12 |
raymoo[m] |
Hmm, I wonder who could be behind this |
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Gael-de-Sailly |
I can't connect on the forum either |
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Calinou |
it is down :( |
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rubenwardy |
raymoo[m]: no one |
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rubenwardy |
OpenBSD maintainers, if anything |
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raymoo[m] |
Ah, ok |
20:47 |
raymoo[m] |
some bug then |
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red-001 |
MinetestBot, nice |
21:16 |
Sketch2 |
if anyoone wondered, https://forum.minetest.net/ is up again |
21:18 |
red-001 |
yep been back for a while, the server got rebooted by celeron |
21:19 |
BillyS |
Hmm, what does MinetestBot do? |
21:19 |
red-001 |
MinetestBot, help |
21:19 |
red-001 |
!help |
21:19 |
MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
21:19 |
Sketch2 |
it's scripted to do a few things |
21:20 |
Sketch2 |
like past pix of cats and doggos |
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22:56 |
Peppy |
hi, I would like to share some infos about someone (you know who) who is trying to localsave our map |
22:57 |
red-001 |
Peppy, are you the person that was asking about removing a server from the list a while back? |
22:57 |
Peppy |
yes I am |
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red-001 |
ah ok, just wondering |
22:58 |
Peppy |
should I pm you ? |
23:00 |
red-001 |
ehh, if you want to reach other server owners I suggest #minetest-hub |
23:00 |
BillyS |
More OldCrazy madness, Ill bet |
23:01 |
red-001 |
BillyS, "someone (you know who" |
23:01 |
BillyS |
Yep |
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BillyS |
I think we all know who . . >_> |
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Peppy |
well i'm at -hub now |
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swift110 |
sup folks |
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