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dogetest |
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dogetest |
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments/7rn5x3/dogetestdogeworld_much_better/ |
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blaise |
dogetest: so, I can dig up a bunch of blocks and sell them for dogecoin? |
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02:20 |
blaise |
something doesn't sound right |
02:21 |
blaise |
am I somehow generating dogecoin on my machine when I connect to this server with the dogeworld game? |
02:31 |
dogetest |
blaise: fisrt yes, second no |
02:31 |
blaise |
okay, so ... |
02:32 |
blaise |
when I create an account on the server I go to the ATM and what.. enter in my wallet address? |
02:34 |
dogetest |
no, just the nick |
02:34 |
dogetest |
of receiver |
02:35 |
dogetest |
https://imgur.com/KIbwYBy |
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blaise |
dogetest: so, they're not real dogecoins? |
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03:24 |
blaise |
dogetest: so, they're not real dogecoins? |
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03:25 |
blaise |
you just decided to call your new in game minetest currency dogecoin, even though there is already something called dogecoin |
03:25 |
dogetest |
its real dogecoin |
03:25 |
blaise |
like, copyrighted and trademarked as dogecoin.. cryptographic currency |
03:25 |
dogetest |
but your question is ambiguous, because dogecoin itself has some "fake" coins |
03:26 |
dogetest |
yes, youll need a full node to run that |
03:26 |
dogetest |
full dogecoin cryptocurrency node |
03:26 |
blaise |
uhm, node? |
03:26 |
blaise |
you mean a wallet? |
03:26 |
dogetest |
fullnode |
03:26 |
blaise |
you mean masternode? |
03:26 |
dogetest |
yes, the core one |
03:26 |
* blaise |
facepalms |
03:27 |
dogetest |
what? |
03:27 |
blaise |
seems like you either don't speak english or haven't been involved with blockchain very long |
03:27 |
blaise |
or maybe both |
03:28 |
dogetest |
really? why? |
03:28 |
blaise |
okay, so where are these coins coming from? |
03:28 |
blaise |
because unless you're some kind of generous millionair, the coins have to be minted |
03:29 |
dogetest |
what you talking about? |
03:29 |
blaise |
and I'm pretty sure no one is going to buy coins just to give them away |
03:29 |
dogetest |
the coins Im offering? or the coins that will be used by server owners when running the subgame? |
03:30 |
blaise |
coins have to be cryptographicly hashed out, or bought |
03:30 |
blaise |
both? |
03:30 |
dogetest |
I've been tipped |
03:30 |
blaise |
like, with pudding? or cotton? |
03:30 |
dogetest |
first |
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03:31 |
dogetest |
second, initial could be provided by owner, but he could let for players to deposit it |
03:31 |
blaise |
ok, so the minetest server which has dogeworld game will be running a dogecoin masternode in the background mining? |
03:32 |
dogetest |
dont need to mine |
03:32 |
artimax |
Im trying to grasp what the draw of doing this is |
03:32 |
blaise |
so where would the coin come from? |
03:33 |
blaise |
becuase of the server admin has to front all these coins in trade for VIRTUAL mined up blocks in a game it could get very expencive very fast |
03:33 |
dogetest |
what? |
03:33 |
dogetest |
did u read my answer? |
03:34 |
blaise |
yeah, you said the coins have to come from the server owner |
03:34 |
blaise |
people arent going to sink money in to the game.. not like this |
03:34 |
dogetest |
dont have to, but probably |
03:34 |
artimax |
why would players spend memecoins for things when there are free servers? |
03:34 |
blaise |
artimax: they wouldn't.. it's insanity |
03:35 |
blaise |
that's the whole point of minetest.. that and java can suck a d**k |
03:35 |
artimax |
Its already such a niche part of the mine* world |
03:35 |
artimax |
lolol |
03:36 |
dogetest |
first, players could be attracted to the possibility of earning doges |
03:36 |
blaise |
minetest is free opensource and coded in C/CPP |
03:36 |
dogetest |
second, server owners could profit honestly |
03:36 |
blaise |
no one, no one |
03:37 |
dogetest |
denial |
03:37 |
blaise |
I'm glad you finally see the light. |
03:37 |
blaise |
lol |
03:37 |
blaise |
it doesn't matter what coin you use |
03:38 |
blaise |
dashpay would be a better choice... dogecoin ... is not expected to thrive, lets say.. |
03:39 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
what would kill dogecoin? |
03:39 |
blaise |
the dogecoin is a pump'n'dump... it was programmed that way |
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blaise |
Elon_Satoshi[m]: Elon Munsk/Satoshi ?@! |
03:39 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
pump n' dump? |
03:40 |
blaise |
yeah, never heard the term? |
03:40 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
no |
03:40 |
blaise |
it's like purposely building a bubble industry just to invest early and pull out on top.. |
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03:41 |
blaise |
aka pump'n'dump |
03:41 |
dogetest |
so? |
03:42 |
blaise |
invest, pump up to proper inflation, sell out before you end up homeless with people chasing you through the streets with rusty objects and torches |
03:42 |
blaise |
which might could still happen depending on how many people you screwed over |
03:42 |
blaise |
it's a scam... |
03:42 |
dogetest |
sounds fun |
03:43 |
blaise |
k, good luck |
03:43 |
dogetest |
are you afraid of what? |
03:43 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
but why should dogecoin have to crash after someone invests in it? |
03:43 |
blaise |
it doesn't have to |
03:43 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
nobody controls dogecoin |
03:43 |
blaise |
most of these little coins were ment to though |
03:44 |
blaise |
like litecoin.. it was never ever even ment to last |
03:44 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
How? |
03:44 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
I thought they were meant to deflate |
03:44 |
dogetest |
I feel this discussion is pointless. Ive choosen dogecoin just because it's fun and minetest is a game |
03:45 |
blaise |
the issue is you're monetizing gameplay of something that will always be free to the player |
03:45 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
Tbh dogecoin is not fun when I have no hard drive space, slow internet, and multidoge sucks majorly |
03:45 |
blaise |
lol |
03:45 |
dogetest |
dont multidoge |
03:45 |
blaise |
how about don't doge at all |
03:46 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
I don't. :/ |
03:46 |
dogetest |
alternative? |
03:46 |
blaise |
me either |
03:46 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
I did once. I kinda wish I had stuck with it lol, it's been rising. |
03:46 |
blaise |
how about minegeld? |
03:46 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
(I have bitcoin). |
03:46 |
blaise |
it already exists and is incredible! |
03:46 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
Is minegeld a cryptocurrency or a minetest resource? |
03:46 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
Ohh it's those minetest bills isn't it? |
03:47 |
blaise |
it's a currency mod for minetest |
03:47 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
Ah I remember |
03:47 |
blaise |
there are several currency mods, I like minegeld the best though |
03:47 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
I mean, you could also try having dogecoin in minetest. You know it's okay to monetise free software, right? |
03:48 |
blaise |
I'm not really sure about that |
03:48 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
That's one of the four freedoms, being able to sell. (Just as long as you don't close up the source) |
03:48 |
blaise |
I think he cant sell it... |
03:48 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
For instance, you can sell Gnu/Linux CDs |
03:48 |
blaise |
yeah, but your just selling the cd, not the contents |
03:49 |
blaise |
so you can't charge for the conents only the media |
03:49 |
dogetest |
the legallity will depend on your jurisdiction |
03:49 |
blaise |
look, I guess you can do what ever you like on your minetest server |
03:50 |
dogetest |
exactly |
03:50 |
dogetest |
100% its more free than minecraft |
03:50 |
blaise |
if you want to sell real money for fake virtual materials go ahead |
03:50 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
yes that's definitely true |
03:50 |
dogetest |
blaise: you are spreading FUD |
03:50 |
blaise |
fud? |
03:51 |
blaise |
fuddy duddy?? |
03:51 |
dogetest |
players wont be allowed to withdraw |
03:51 |
blaise |
oh, well fuck that then |
03:51 |
blaise |
lmao |
03:51 |
dogetest |
at least not automatically |
03:51 |
blaise |
if I cant buy doge with my 30 stacks of diamonds and mese then who cares |
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03:52 |
blaise |
because I would most definitly swap out the doge coins for dashpay |
03:52 |
dogetest |
You can, but just like a faucet there should be a threshold |
03:52 |
blaise |
and happily pay my rent just mining on your server all day |
03:52 |
dogetest |
for withdrawl |
03:52 |
blaise |
so it's a scam... |
03:53 |
dogetest |
sure, my code is scam |
03:53 |
blaise |
wtf, no |
03:53 |
blaise |
not the code |
03:53 |
blaise |
the idea |
03:53 |
dogetest |
well, there are flaws |
03:53 |
blaise |
you want investors to come buy materials with their doge coin |
03:54 |
blaise |
to play on your server |
03:54 |
dogetest |
yes, playesr got have their money stolen by server owners |
03:54 |
dogetest |
players could* |
03:54 |
blaise |
and I bet you have no limit on how much a person can dump into the server |
03:55 |
blaise |
but they can only pull out a little every 24 hours? |
03:55 |
dogetest |
Its not a full exchange solution |
03:55 |
dogetest |
lol |
03:55 |
blaise |
then it's not feasable |
03:55 |
dogetest |
youre hard |
03:55 |
blaise |
I'm honest |
03:55 |
dogetest |
I like it |
03:56 |
blaise |
atleast you're not pushing that menaro or what ever it's called |
03:56 |
dogetest |
you may receive any amount, since its dogecoin. and only send what you want |
03:57 |
dogetest |
the server owner owns everyone wallets |
03:57 |
blaise |
you know people programmed games to mine while playing? and people had no idea and were playing these games ? |
03:57 |
dogetest |
just like most exchanges |
03:57 |
blaise |
those are called scams, not exchanges |
03:57 |
blaise |
and I run my own wallet.. |
03:58 |
blaise |
none of those web based scam houses |
03:58 |
blaise |
an exchange is where you sell your coins for items, goods, or other coins... |
03:59 |
blaise |
if you don't host your own wallet you've ventured into uber crazyhorse territory |
03:59 |
blaise |
and should be promptly slapped every minute of every day with a large trout |
04:00 |
blaise |
becuase you think you have coins, but you don't |
04:00 |
blaise |
someone else has your coins |
04:00 |
blaise |
lmao |
04:01 |
blaise |
"oh here, random stranger.. hold all my money.." |
04:01 |
blaise |
pfft, screw that insanity |
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04:02 |
blaise |
no one in there right mind would do that |
04:03 |
blaise |
the only way someone would use a cloud based wallet is if they didn't understand what cryptographic currency even is.. |
04:03 |
blaise |
and people that are stupid enough to invest money in something they don't understand most certanly deserve to part with it |
04:04 |
dogetest |
well, lots of people do it. and if youre placing your money into a minetest server that is why you allowed yourself to risk it |
04:04 |
blaise |
the only money I've invested in minetest is the virtual private server I host it on.. |
04:04 |
blaise |
which suits me just fine |
04:04 |
dogetest |
blaise: exactly, by introducing minetest players to dogecoin we'll be educating them |
04:05 |
blaise |
yeah, after the heist, right? |
04:05 |
blaise |
the edumacation comes when the server vanishes |
04:05 |
blaise |
lmao |
04:05 |
dogetest |
when they need to set up their wallets for withdraw |
04:05 |
dogetest |
I laughed too |
04:06 |
blaise |
sounds like mtgox |
04:06 |
dogetest |
but much smaller |
04:07 |
blaise |
mfers got away with billions |
04:07 |
dogetest |
I hope to bring more secutiry, but I'm just starting |
04:07 |
blaise |
BILLIONS |
04:07 |
dogetest |
but many also didn't |
04:07 |
blaise |
and if anyone, ANYONE ever finds them.. they'll get killed |
04:08 |
blaise |
people lost their entire life savings at mtgox |
04:08 |
blaise |
lots of people |
04:09 |
blaise |
I think like 3% of china killed themselves over the loss |
04:13 |
blaise |
dogetest: so what happends if someone finds a way to rip the server off and sell all their doge ? |
04:14 |
dogetest |
then you may say you got hacked |
04:14 |
blaise |
pfft |
04:22 |
dogetest |
sorry, just couldnt miss |
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04:30 |
dogetest |
A question that came to my mind is how to sell dogecoins through minetest servers |
04:30 |
dogetest |
paypal? |
04:30 |
dogetest |
a in-game exchange? |
04:31 |
dogetest |
imagine children buying dogecoin with credit cards through minetest |
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dogetest |
minetest servers* |
04:51 |
swift110-phone_ |
Oh wow |
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05:48 |
blaise |
I'm extremely certain that it is against the ula of any credit card company to have their clients be under the age of 18 |
05:49 |
blaise |
further more it is starting to seem like your wanting little kiddies to steal their parents credit cards and buy dogecoin to blunder on your server |
05:50 |
dogetest |
plz, dont take me too serious. |
05:51 |
dogetest |
I do not have a server and even if I had their parents could buy it anyway |
05:53 |
blaise |
just seems like your trying to weasel a scam out of minetest somehow and have dogecoin involved |
05:53 |
blaise |
dogecoin being the primary transport method for you payday |
05:53 |
dogetest |
most western democracies arent democracies |
05:54 |
blaise |
wtf does that have to do with the price of tea in china? |
05:54 |
blaise |
we arent talking politics |
05:54 |
blaise |
we |
05:54 |
blaise |
we're talking about moral ambiguity, |
05:55 |
blaise |
and potentially criminal behavior |
05:55 |
blaise |
in france this would definitly be a jailable offence.. |
05:55 |
blaise |
and several countries would gladly extridite you |
05:55 |
dogetest |
I dont blame you to be aware, but to be FUDed |
05:55 |
dogetest |
which crime? |
05:56 |
blaise |
their laws are quite a bit more strict than in most countries |
05:56 |
dogetest |
sure, Im a criminal by simply being western |
05:57 |
blaise |
western? |
05:57 |
blaise |
in what sence? like need for speed western? or butch casidy and the sundance kids western? |
05:57 |
dogetest |
yeah |
05:57 |
dogetest |
like west from greenwich |
05:58 |
blaise |
pfft fuck that ass fuckery |
05:58 |
blaise |
i don't even care where your from |
05:58 |
dogetest |
I really like your humor |
05:58 |
blaise |
a con man is a con man is a con man |
05:59 |
dogetest |
I would tip you if I could |
05:59 |
blaise |
I don't care if he's trying to sell you your mothers 30 year old breast milk or a car that couldn't pull out of a parking lot |
05:59 |
dogetest |
what? |
05:59 |
blaise |
exactly |
06:00 |
blaise |
the context of both of those things are very far from themselves |
06:00 |
blaise |
but both are wrong |
06:01 |
blaise |
while selling you your own mothers rotten breast milk is probably perfectly legal, it's gross, and moraly wrong |
06:01 |
blaise |
and selling you a crap lemon car is also wrong, it's illegal in most states in the us |
06:01 |
dogetest |
so it is selling dogecoins? |
06:02 |
blaise |
no, you're not selling dogecoin |
06:02 |
blaise |
you're selling virtual 1 meter square blocks of material in a computer game |
06:03 |
dogetest |
is it illegal? |
06:03 |
blaise |
anyone can buy dogecoin anywhere |
06:03 |
blaise |
no, but there's no demand |
06:03 |
dogetest |
good for us |
06:03 |
dogetest |
oh |
06:03 |
blaise |
actually it, might could be illegal |
06:04 |
blaise |
you would have to hire an atturney and have him look in to it |
06:04 |
blaise |
but that's not the point |
06:04 |
blaise |
why would they want to buy fake dirt and stone? |
06:05 |
blaise |
esp when the server is not in their posession and they have no way to ensure the data will survive? |
06:05 |
dogetest |
they buy dollars |
06:05 |
blaise |
and they could easily just run the game in local mode and store it on a flash drive |
06:05 |
dogetest |
they do facebook |
06:05 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
people buy data that can be easily copied even though it's illegal, but hard to force, and they buy pet rocks, why not buy fake dirt and stone? |
06:06 |
dogetest |
I cant host it myself for example |
06:06 |
dogetest |
so, hosting is a legitimate service |
06:06 |
blaise |
then what in the actual fsck are you even doing |
06:06 |
blaise |
lmao |
06:06 |
dogetest |
owners should be paid |
06:06 |
blaise |
like me |
06:06 |
dogetest |
yes |
06:06 |
blaise |
I host my server and you think I should get money for it? |
06:07 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
Say, why not just have people pay to be allowed access to a minetest server? |
06:07 |
dogetest |
yes |
06:07 |
dogetest |
lets team up |
06:07 |
blaise |
Elon_Satoshi[m]: because that would make too much sense |
06:07 |
blaise |
he wants to charge per squre meter of material |
06:08 |
dogetest |
blaise: thats not exact |
06:08 |
blaise |
probably charge more for more valuable stuff like gold or mese |
06:08 |
blaise |
and diamon |
06:08 |
blaise |
d |
06:08 |
dogetest |
thats for sure |
06:08 |
blaise |
pfft |
06:08 |
blaise |
ok ok ok |
06:08 |
blaise |
look |
06:08 |
dogetest |
https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/7rmzxi/the_ends_beginning/ |
06:08 |
blaise |
say I have a hobby, and it's garden model railroading |
06:09 |
blaise |
true story mind you |
06:09 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
dogetest: what could i do to support your cause with my slow laggy internet, and inability to use my computer as a server either by the authority of my ISP or my ignorance? |
06:09 |
blaise |
and i have 3 acres of land that I put my blood sweat and tears into... |
06:09 |
blaise |
and people tell me they wanna pay to tour my layout |
06:09 |
dogetest |
Elon_Satoshi[m]: Im at the same situation, but can your server go public? |
06:09 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
if I could make a minetest server, I'd be happily sharing my singleplayer worlds with friends |
06:09 |
blaise |
i don't mind so I set up $1.00 cover charge and a gate |
06:10 |
blaise |
that is as far as I go with monitization |
06:10 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
dogetest: like i said, i'm either too stupid to be a minetest server or my isp blocks it |
06:11 |
blaise |
I might raise the cost but I'm not going to start charging for each individual item viewed, catch my drift? |
06:11 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
besides my internet is so slow i can't even load the serverlist except at midnight or when the bill is paid |
06:11 |
dogetest |
lets see |
06:11 |
blaise |
Elon_Satoshi[m]: you could rent a vps |
06:11 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
and when it is fast enough, and i can connect to a server, there is still little happiness for me because of the 1000 millisecond lag |
06:11 |
blaise |
Elite-Epochs: or you could get a free shell account.... they're everywhere |
06:12 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
yeah i have no money my mom controls it all |
06:12 |
blaise |
oh, I'm sorry to hear that |
06:12 |
dogetest |
free shells doesnt allow for dogecoin and minetest |
06:12 |
blaise |
I don't have one of those |
06:12 |
blaise |
dogetest: no shit |
06:13 |
blaise |
dogetest: no hosting provider is going to allow any cryptographic coin service |
06:13 |
blaise |
like, |
06:13 |
blaise |
NONE |
06:13 |
dogetest |
performance isnt a problem |
06:13 |
dogetest |
its just for the fun |
06:13 |
blaise |
it's too much traffic man |
06:13 |
blaise |
you'll never get any transactions down |
06:13 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
argue argue argue |
06:13 |
dogetest |
blaise: stop FUDing |
06:13 |
dogetest |
for your health |
06:14 |
blaise |
it'll cost more in data than the coin transfer is worth |
06:14 |
dogetest |
you didnt get it right |
06:14 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
can you prove that experimentally? |
06:14 |
blaise |
what is this "FUD" you speak of? |
06:14 |
dogetest |
prove what? |
06:14 |
dogetest |
me? |
06:14 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
it stands for fear, uncertainty, doubt |
06:14 |
blaise |
I can prove that a transaction itself costs |
06:14 |
blaise |
let alone the data |
06:15 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
has dogecoin's transaction fee gone up just like bitcoin's? |
06:15 |
blaise |
they always add in a fee for transaction workload or it wouldn't be worth running masternodes |
06:15 |
blaise |
it's not as bad but it definitly exists |
06:16 |
dogetest |
we arent going to send all transactions |
06:16 |
dogetest |
just when real money needs to get out or in |
06:16 |
blaise |
then what's the point? |
06:16 |
dogetest |
in this sense, the balance the players sees is fake |
06:16 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
dogetest: what do you want blaise to do for you? and how will it benefit him? |
06:17 |
blaise |
without the transaction profits the node wont even pay it's own bills much less make a profit from your minetest plan |
06:17 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
i hope you guys don't mind if i try to help mediate this thing which in the end i won't have anything to do with, i'm bored |
06:17 |
dogetest |
Elon_Satoshi[m]: well, we are in a battle and he seens to be a server owner, so.... |
06:17 |
blaise |
it's not a battle |
06:18 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
a battle? over what? |
06:18 |
blaise |
look, if you wanna charge for access to your minetest server that's fine |
06:18 |
dogetest |
blaise: dogecoin have accounts and addresses |
06:18 |
blaise |
but I'm serious about the per item sales, it's not going to work |
06:18 |
blaise |
i don't care what currency you use |
06:19 |
blaise |
if you wanna charge blowjobs for access to your server that's you're buisness |
06:19 |
dogetest |
you may send money through your accounts without spending your addresses |
06:19 |
dogetest |
dogecoin even allows for negative balances |
06:19 |
blaise |
but you won't get blowjobs selling one unit of dirt, diamond, or mese |
06:20 |
blaise |
you MIGHT get a blowjob or two with a cover charge.. or a monthly subscription |
06:20 |
blaise |
which is basicly what microsoft did with minecraft and realms |
06:21 |
dogetest |
there is hope |
06:21 |
blaise |
so if you wanna have your own minecraft realms server without using realms and minecraft, then good luck |
06:22 |
blaise |
this reminds me of the movie dumber and dumber |
06:22 |
blaise |
I mean dumb and dumber |
06:22 |
dogetest |
thanks |
06:22 |
blaise |
remember when Jim Carry was asking the chick what his chances were? |
06:23 |
dogetest |
go to #dogecoin and I may tip you dome doges |
06:23 |
dogetest |
some* |
06:23 |
blaise |
I don't take dogecoin.... |
06:24 |
blaise |
thanks though |
06:25 |
dogetest |
Elon_Satoshi[m]: when u said to prove. what was you talking? |
06:27 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
never mind |
06:28 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
it would be nice to use dogecoin as an in-game currency though. (especially if it was decentralized and nobody was centrally gaining from it lol) |
06:29 |
dogetest |
everyone wins |
06:29 |
dogetest |
players and owners |
06:30 |
blaise |
1kDOGE = $8.62 USD |
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06:30 |
blaise |
so like, |
06:30 |
dogetest |
the cheaper the better |
06:30 |
* blaise |
rips his face off and throws it across the room |
06:30 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
so 1 doge = 0.862 cents |
06:30 |
blaise |
no |
06:30 |
dogetest |
if it was bitcoin? |
06:31 |
blaise |
1DOGE is $0.00862 |
06:31 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
you guys do realize it doesn't matter how much 1.0 of a cryptocurrency is worth, right? |
06:31 |
blaise |
eight one hundredths |
06:31 |
dogetest |
I did choose dogecoin because of its price and concept |
06:32 |
dogetest |
which I feel relates to minetest |
06:32 |
blaise |
Elon_Satoshi[m]: yeah, untill you own some and something happends |
06:32 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
yeah, doge having units of small value is good for gaming |
06:32 |
blaise |
and then you either wanna celebrate, or kill yourself |
06:32 |
dogetest |
it's still nice to play with integers |
06:33 |
dogetest |
instead of fractions |
06:33 |
blaise |
so what's up with that monaro coin? |
06:33 |
dogetest |
thats why dogecoin |
06:33 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
blaise: that's my point, it's how the price changes that matters, not how much 1.0 is |
06:33 |
blaise |
you mean decimals? |
06:33 |
blaise |
Elite-Epochs: indeed |
06:33 |
dogetest |
any coin with a JSONRPC API should work |
06:34 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
why are you calling me Elite-Epochs? |
06:34 |
blaise |
I managed to generate about 19k bitcoins WAY back in the day before it was even heard of anywhere |
06:34 |
blaise |
I think it was about where doge is now |
06:34 |
blaise |
the difficulty was pathetic.. all cpu mined |
06:34 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
wtf, are you super rich or is it lost in an old computer with a forgotten password? |
06:35 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
wow, that's a lot of bitcoins |
06:35 |
blaise |
Elon_Satoshi[m]: sorry, nick completion |
06:35 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
erm okay |
06:35 |
blaise |
Elon_Satoshi[m]: I'm too scared to sell any of it.. afraid the government will put me in prison |
06:37 |
blaise |
it's a scary situation |
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blaise |
I mean, the law currently is that bitcoin is not fiat so you cant tax it like an income |
06:38 |
blaise |
but there are horror stories |
06:38 |
blaise |
people sell out and nobody ever hears from them again |
06:39 |
blaise |
my nabor mined a good bit too back then and when he sold up some of what he had they came and nabbed him up in a blacked out van |
06:39 |
blaise |
his wife and kids still live there but nobody has heard or seen him since |
06:40 |
dogetest |
well, thats a point |
06:40 |
blaise |
like, I dont wanna die... |
06:40 |
dogetest |
but spreading crytpos is the best way to reduce this kind of situation |
06:40 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
holy cow |
06:41 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
that's depressing |
06:42 |
blaise |
but who's to know if it was the government, or maybe some people in IT that managed to track the wallet traffic from the block chain back to his house some how and are trying to torcher him for the location and passphrase of the wallet? |
06:42 |
blaise |
when you start talking about millions, or even tens of billions of dollars... |
06:42 |
dogetest |
still FUD |
06:43 |
blaise |
people get real weird real quick |
06:43 |
dogetest |
lets hope for the best |
06:43 |
blaise |
what is FUD ? |
06:43 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
fear uncertainty doubt |
06:43 |
blaise |
lol |
06:44 |
dogetest |
lets rock that dogecoin mod |
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blaise |
I'm sure you'll find someone eventually |
06:44 |
blaise |
if I do something like that I would use something a bit more anonymous |
06:44 |
red-001 |
I mean they can tax your income from the bitcoin if you have something like capital gains tax |
06:45 |
blaise |
dash has offline mixing... kind of important in the whole transaction masking thing |
06:45 |
blaise |
red-001: yeah, and I don't actually have that kind of money |
06:46 |
dogetest |
pick a coin |
06:46 |
blaise |
i have those kinds of btc, but unless you sell them they're not worth USD |
06:46 |
dogetest |
dash? |
06:46 |
dogetest |
let me see |
06:46 |
blaise |
dash, yes.. |
06:46 |
blaise |
it used to be called darkcoin |
06:46 |
dogetest |
woow |
06:46 |
blaise |
but they didn't want people to think it was sinister |
06:47 |
blaise |
it's not tracable though |
06:47 |
dogetest |
and you whining at dogecoin |
06:47 |
blaise |
if I do sell off any btc i will convert it to dash first |
06:47 |
red-001 |
why so? |
06:48 |
blaise |
eh, idk |
06:48 |
dogetest |
maybe you should diversify a little |
06:48 |
blaise |
I'm still trying to figure out how to do it with out it showing up on their radar.. |
06:49 |
red-001 |
huh interesting you would pay less in taxes if you are in the US if you invest for longer periods of time |
06:49 |
blaise |
with dashpay , say you use a dashcard at a coke machine |
06:49 |
red-001 |
assuming it wouldn't fail like most projects do |
06:50 |
blaise |
the sum of the required funds get fractioned up from thousands of wallet addresses to one main addresss and transfered over in the transaction |
06:50 |
blaise |
that wallet address is never used again... blacklisted |
06:51 |
blaise |
so I guess I could somehow buy a bunch of prepaid visa cards? IDK |
06:52 |
red-001 |
I mean if this is your plan to keep your bitcoin cash out annoyism, I think talking about it really is the weak link in the chain |
06:53 |
red-001 |
anonymous* |
06:53 |
blaise |
it's safe |
06:53 |
blaise |
it's in a hand written wallet in a safe burried somewhere |
06:54 |
blaise |
there's no way I can be caught with it |
06:54 |
blaise |
there's several copies actually |
06:56 |
dogetest |
Ill be back later |
06:56 |
dogetest |
https://github.com/dogetest/dogeworld |
07:01 |
red-001 |
blaise, I mean sure but if you are too paranoid to just cash it out normally then surly discussing it in public isn't a great idea? |
07:01 |
blaise |
public? |
07:01 |
red-001 |
this channel and IRC in general |
07:02 |
blaise |
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07:02 |
blaise |
[02:01:35] blaise is blaise!~blaiseunaffiliated/blaise |
07:02 |
blaise |
=D |
07:02 |
red-001 |
you at leats going through a VPN? |
07:02 |
red-001 |
least* |
07:02 |
blaise |
yeah |
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Elon_Satoshi[m] |
blaise: i had an idea: you must be extremely rich with bitcoin, so do whatever you want and if a black van comes, pay them to go away |
07:03 |
red-001 |
well thats a start, the VPN I mean not the cloak |
07:03 |
blaise |
or both? |
07:03 |
blaise |
on top of using a irc bouncer |
07:03 |
red-001 |
cloaks don't really do anything |
07:04 |
* blaise |
notices his stomach chewing on his backbone |
07:04 |
blaise |
hrmm |
07:04 |
blaise |
I think I had better eat something |
07:05 |
red-001 |
there was (is?) a number of ways someone that doesn't even have the correct permissions to view a users IP can figure it out |
07:05 |
dogetest |
simply dont tell anybody, just like a paycheck |
07:05 |
dogetest |
now I go |
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blaise |
I route my connections well, I'm not worried |
07:06 |
nepugia |
famous last words |
07:07 |
blaise |
lmao |
07:07 |
blaise |
nepugia: okay then, come get me!!! |
07:07 |
blaise |
I've been in super paranoid mode since 1990 |
07:07 |
nepugia |
sorry, i see bitcoins as pretty worthless :D |
07:08 |
blaise |
yeah, me too |
07:08 |
blaise |
how to convert them into goods, and then how to get the said goods to me,..... |
07:08 |
blaise |
it's a problem |
07:09 |
red-001 |
"hey it's remeber that guy who we kidnapped with a black van and all? Yeah, sure what about him? well apprently his neighbour also has crypto" |
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nepugia |
Star trek replications might opeerate on bitcoin :3 |
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blaise |
lmao |
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Elon_Satoshi[m] |
that would be horrible |
07:10 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
the federation isn't supposed to use money |
07:10 |
Elon_Satoshi[m] |
no, let the ferengi have bitcoin |
07:10 |
blaise |
they use credits |
07:10 |
blaise |
it's complete socialism |
07:10 |
blaise |
everyone gets the same allowance no matter what they contribute |
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datapunk[m] |
its unclear |
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datapunk[m] |
we assume places like DS9 have stipends |
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datapunk[m] |
and industrial replicators seem difficult to come by |
07:44 |
datapunk[m] |
i always thought it was more like mutualism with communism for necessity stuff |
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datapunk[m] |
we never see replicator tech like the ship repair station in Enterprise but i assume they have it at shipyards by the time of TNG+ |
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Elon_Satoshi[m] |
yeah but what if it becomes sentient just like the one in enterprise did? It's not worth the risk |
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danSNDBX |
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danSNDBX |
my new minetest video is online :)! Please check it out and give me some feedback https://youtu.be/EzJXXtujNQw |
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Krock |
720p but still stuttering a lot... that's not very comfy to watch |
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danSNDBX |
are u talking about fps, krock? |
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danSNDBX |
In this vid the fps schould be better https://youtu.be/KK7QSb9MReE |
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danSNDBX |
i try my best for a good performence, but can only do what my hardware alows me to do :( |
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my new minetest video is online :)! Please check it out and give me some feedback https://youtu.be/EzJXXtujNQw |
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danSNDBX |
(i already kno about the fps issue) |
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paramat |
please don't repeat that post |
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red-001 |
what post? |
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red-001 |
paramat |
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NathanS21 |
red-001 doubtless the person advertising their video. |
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Krock |
red-001, the join/leave messages ofc |
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paramat |
danSNDBX's video |
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danSNDBX |
ok paramat :( |
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danSNDBX |
sorry |
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thanks :) |
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back |
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danSNDBX: nice video |
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thank you very much dogetest :)! |
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dogetest |
Anyone willing to host a experimental server? |
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dogetest |
Elon_Satoshi[m]: is your proposal still standing? |
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Krock |
dogetest, for how long? |
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dogetest |
initially, just to take some shoots |
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Krock |
there's also https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18999 |
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red-001 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
red-001: Great Minetest hosting - First month FREE + $5! - Minetest Forums |
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dogetest |
woow |
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dogetest |
oh |
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dogetest |
where is she |
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dogetest |
lol, I registered and then they email me my password |
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dogetest |
and it didnt accept special characters |
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red-001 |
are you bobby "drop" tables? |
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dogetest |
whom? |
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nepugia |
<relevant xkcd here> |
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dogetest |
I did read that sometime ago |
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red-001 |
<complains about <media series> getting worse over time> |
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dogetest |
I quit series a long time ago |
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red-001 |
I know right <series> was better back then in <current year - (series_age / 2)>, it just went downhill since then |
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t20kdc |
I don't know, I really liked <recent episode> |
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red-001 |
yeah <recent_episode> felt like <old_episode> but that just shows they ran out of ideas |
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red-001 |
I think <minor_artistic_change> was really the point where the show went downhill |
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red-001 |
were* |
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t20kdc |
I forget - was <recent episode> the one where they set things up for one just like it in <number> years? |
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t20kdc |
...or was it the one with <common holiday figure>? |
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red-001 |
I think it was one with <common holiday figure> |
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Krock |
relevant subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/SUBREDDITNAME/ |
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dogetest |
I think I going to get kicked from r/Minecraft for advertising minetest |
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dogetest |
blaise: it seems like dash would work out of the box |
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dogetest |
the biggest problem would be to change dogecoin symbols to the dash one |
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Pingas |
hey |
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nepugia |
o̸/ |
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Pingas |
they should get a discord server |
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Pingas |
:/ |
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sfan5 |
who is they |
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Pingas |
the creators |
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Pingas |
sfan5 |
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Pingas |
that sounds familiat |
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Krock |
creators of what |
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Pingas |
minetest |
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Krock |
no |
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Pingas |
gunna connect w/ hexchat |
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marshal |
hey |
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marshal |
agh wrong username |
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there |
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Pingas |
agh |
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Pingas |
mk |
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Pingas |
any1 hear me? |
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nepugia |
o̸/ |
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Pingas |
kk |
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Pingas |
any1 wanna play voxelgarden or Carbone NG |
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Pingas |
? |
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nepugia |
are those subgames? |
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Pingas |
yes |
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Pingas |
i might make my own subgame some day |
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Pingas |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=12824 |
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Pingas |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6346 |
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danSNDBX |
hi |
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MinetestBot |
[git] red-001 -> minetest/minetest: [CSM] Add functions to create particles and particlespawners. (#6072) 5dab742 https://git.io/vNg4q (2018-01-20T22:31:53Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Add minetest issue template (#6936) da80e8a https://git.io/vNg4m (2018-01-20T22:31:15Z) |
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dogetest |
minecity doesnt work weekends |
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red-001 |
what's minecity? |
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dogetest |
a minetest hosting service |
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dogetest |
https://minecity.online |
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Fixer |
lol |
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dogetest |
Milan[m]: are you passant? |
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