| Time |
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blaise |
it's so time consuming building all my ones self |
| 00:50 |
blaise |
I need one of those massive mining rigs |
| 00:50 |
blaise |
I see the blade for it in the technic inventory |
| 00:51 |
blaise |
hrmm |
| 00:53 |
blaise |
oh wait, that's the diamond drill head for the mining drills |
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sameyepatch[m] |
activate creative mode |
| 01:03 |
sameyepatch[m] |
the hand alone can mine anything |
| 01:21 |
blaise |
that takes too long |
| 01:21 |
blaise |
that's what mining lasers and drills are foor |
| 01:21 |
blaise |
dor |
| 01:21 |
blaise |
for |
| 01:21 |
* blaise |
freaks out |
| 01:23 |
sameyepatch[m] |
ah then technic is indeed the answer |
| 01:24 |
sameyepatch[m] |
have any of you found underground structures that seem already mined by someone? |
| 01:24 |
blaise |
go check out the subway level on midnightsystems.net:30000 |
| 01:24 |
blaise |
sameyepatch[m]: of course |
| 01:24 |
blaise |
ruins and dungeons and all kinds of stuff |
| 01:25 |
sameyepatch[m] |
yeah that somehow creeps me up |
| 01:25 |
blaise |
mine tunnels with wood reinforcement to prevent cave ins and such |
| 01:25 |
sameyepatch[m] |
even though they were randomly generated |
| 01:25 |
blaise |
on that server I mentioned there is an elevator to the right as you enter the building next to the spawn area |
| 01:26 |
blaise |
I admin that server, so if there is anything you need just ask |
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sameyepatch[m] |
oh great |
| 01:29 |
sameyepatch[m] |
I was thinking on getting on a multiplayer recently |
| 01:29 |
sameyepatch[m] |
let's see |
| 01:30 |
blaise |
I give initial stuff to help you get started |
| 01:30 |
blaise |
there's a store upstairs in the welcome center |
| 01:31 |
blaise |
i haven't worked out all the perms yet with areas protect, but I'm getting there |
| 01:32 |
blaise |
reading up on it now |
| 01:32 |
blaise |
other servers have it where players can set area protect on their property to prevent griefers |
| 01:33 |
blaise |
but I don't want the players to have areas admin privlege |
| 01:34 |
sameyepatch[m] |
I'm getting in |
| 01:34 |
sameyepatch[m] |
😠|
| 01:34 |
sameyepatch[m] |
it's taking its time to download the media |
| 01:35 |
blaise |
k |
| 01:35 |
sameyepatch[m] |
is it... is it my internet connection? :( |
| 01:35 |
blaise |
no, it's a crap ton of media |
| 01:36 |
blaise |
I need to set up an http mirror for the media so it will download faster but I've not figured out how to do it yet |
| 01:36 |
sameyepatch[m] |
oh, great |
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blaise |
it shouldn't take too long |
| 01:37 |
blaise |
Sokomine: welcome back |
| 01:37 |
Sokomine |
hi blaise :-) thanks |
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sameyepatch[m] |
no, I'm in already |
| 01:37 |
blaise |
Sokomine: hello.. =) |
| 01:38 |
* Sokomine |
wonders if blaise can be bribed to build some nice ships for spawning on the map |
| 01:38 |
blaise |
ships ? |
| 01:38 |
sameyepatch[m] |
blaise: I'm taking stuff from the chests in the spawn area, hope you don't mind |
| 01:39 |
blaise |
sameyepatch[m]: nah, help yourself |
| 01:39 |
blaise |
anything important I put in the safe at the shop inside |
| 01:39 |
blaise |
or a locked chest |
| 01:40 |
blaise |
Sokomine: I'm kind of cought up building a subway system for my server, what kind of ships are we talking about? |
| 01:40 |
blaise |
modern navy vessels? wooden mast? |
| 01:41 |
Sokomine |
blaise: a subway system is a good idea. don't forget to invite er..i think it was wayward_one who's our subway station builder :-) |
| 01:41 |
sameyepatch[m] |
blaise: what mod did you use for the restrooms? |
| 01:41 |
Sokomine |
mostly rather small wooden ships. i want to spawn them on the map from time to time as an extension to mg_villages |
| 01:41 |
blaise |
Sokomine: awsome, will do |
| 01:41 |
sameyepatch[m] |
ma & pops mod doesn't look as neat as this one |
| 01:42 |
Sokomine |
blaise: you don't have to if you don't want to :-) just trying to catch viti^h^h ..er..volunteers for it :) (building ships isn't easy) |
| 01:42 |
blaise |
I'll see what I can put together... seems like I remember someone building some 3 mast sail ships on a server a few years ago |
| 01:42 |
blaise |
Wayward_One: hello? |
| 01:43 |
blaise |
sameyepatch[m]: it's home decor by Vanessa.. |
| 01:43 |
blaise |
she does outstanding work |
| 01:43 |
sameyepatch[m] |
noted! |
| 01:43 |
blaise |
the faucets and toilet are completely functional! |
| 01:43 |
blaise |
even the shower stall turns on |
| 01:44 |
sameyepatch[m] |
I'm testing that one in my world |
| 01:44 |
sameyepatch[m] |
see you later guys |
| 01:44 |
blaise |
cya |
| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 01:47 |
blaise |
I wonder if maybe I can use world edit to build macro sections of subway tunnels and curves and just copy paste them in the map |
| 01:47 |
blaise |
would save a lot of time |
| 01:49 |
rubenwardy |
less impressive if you use worldedit |
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| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
blaise: I've done that. |
| 01:53 |
blaise |
rubenwardy: I suppose you're right.. |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
but tip: don't run technic power through there. in time, it'll become a right pain in the ass to find broken lines. |
| 01:54 |
blaise |
lol |
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| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
seriously, |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
BakerPrime and I played hell upgrading my server's public HV network to overhead lines |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
when people run them underground, they have a tendency to meander and wind around stuff, making them very hard to trace out over long distances. |
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VanessaE |
in the server I set a simple guideline: 20m tall (relative to the neighboring road) poles made of streets steel support if available, otherwise technic windmill supports I guess will do, set in concrete, with a large cable clip on top |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
keeps them totally out of the way, and makes them seem like they're a huge distance above, so it doesn't feel crowded or cluttered. |
| 02:00 |
BakerPrime |
Gah, I got a ping and now I need to read the whole convo to see what's up.... I'm to curious.... |
| 02:00 |
BakerPrime |
:P |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
that's for long-distance. for neighborhood level, steel fenceposts in concrete, 10m tall, small cable clip on top. |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
hi BakerPrime .. ping :)_ |
| 02:01 |
BakerPrime |
Hello VanessaE |
| 02:01 |
BakerPrime |
: ) |
| 02:01 |
blaise |
hehe |
| 02:02 |
blaise |
VanessaE: I'll keep that in mind |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
oh and for a "customer" that needs to tap into the grid for a small LV or HV load, we put a pole with a supply converter on it, run neighborhood-level poles and cables as needed. |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
or BakerPrime likes to use ... |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
what do you call them? |
| 02:03 |
BakerPrime |
Padmount transformers. |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 02:04 |
BakerPrime |
They provide 36,000EU, and require very little space. |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
BakerPrime: we should publish a standard :) |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
tell every technic-using server owner they ought to bring their worlds up to code ;) |
| 02:05 |
BakerPrime |
Switching station, 4 transformers, all the cable needed except the connections, all in a green box that fits on a 4x6 pad. Or upgrade to a 3p (LV/MV/HV) with a 7x5 pad. |
| 02:05 |
BakerPrime |
; ) |
| 02:05 |
BakerPrime |
Hmm |
| 02:05 |
BakerPrime |
Who'd be the code enforcement officier? :P |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
um... |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
well obviously not me as I'm kinda biased :) |
| 02:06 |
BakerPrime |
:P |
| 02:06 |
BakerPrime |
Ah |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
besides, what do we do, fine a server owner some thousands of MG per violation? :) |
| 02:07 |
BakerPrime |
Here. I'll paste a link for a picture of the ElectraTech D-Series Padmount Transformer, and the ElectraTech E-Series Padmount Transformer. :P |
| 02:07 |
blaise |
miengeld |
| 02:07 |
blaise |
lmao |
| 02:07 |
BakerPrime |
Yeah, I guess. :P |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
note to self: update the servers' screenshots for the forum topics. |
| 02:09 |
BakerPrime |
Here's the single-phase version: http://pasteall.org/pic/index.php?id=122994 |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
and across the road from that ^ you can see one of the long-run HV towers. |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
or part of it anyway |
| 02:10 |
BakerPrime |
Yeah. |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
BakerPrime: btw, |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
you might want to use plastic boxes instead of wool. it takes more dye for now, but the texture is smoother. |
| 02:11 |
BakerPrime |
That screenshot is taken at my Mall, which I'm currently working on the grid near there, so there is a few unfinished projects kicking around. |
| 02:11 |
BakerPrime |
VanessaE: Can I color plastic boxes? |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
yes. |
| 02:11 |
BakerPrime |
Cut plastic boxes |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
wait.. |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
I'm wrong. |
| 02:12 |
BakerPrime |
I didn't think I could. Sadly. |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
you can cut them but cheapie never implemented coloring the cut pieces. |
| 02:12 |
BakerPrime |
If I could, I would have used them a long time ago.... wool has a low burn rate. |
| 02:12 |
BakerPrime |
Hence, if a wool transformer leaked IRL it would make a nice boom. |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
I could swear on a stack of holy books that there was at least one almost-metal-looking block that could be used. |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
try stone tiles. |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
no wait |
| 02:13 |
BakerPrime |
http://pasteall.org/pic/index.php?id=122995 |
| 02:13 |
BakerPrime |
Three phase version. |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
the colorized version can't be cut |
| 02:14 |
Emerald2 |
So I'm late to the party but did anyone tell blaise about this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18951 |
| 02:14 |
BakerPrime |
VanessaE: I wish there was something better, Dark green wool cannot be crafted, so I need to beg a certain user to get some.... |
| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
blaise: in that pic you can see neighborhood-level HV runs, with stylized poles to match the neighborhood |
| 02:15 |
blaise |
nice |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
BakerPrime: yeah, that dark green is a combo of a bug in unified dyes and in minetest_game. |
| 02:16 |
BakerPrime |
VanessaE: Yeah, speaking of that I thought maybe we could remove the lines through the center of Woodgarden, looks kindah wrong for the period he was going for I think. Maybe we can run a line in from South Center Road to my former house? |
| 02:17 |
BakerPrime |
Just a thought. |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
woodgarden? is that what wd97 calls it? |
| 02:17 |
BakerPrime |
Yup |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
well... |
| 02:17 |
blaise |
hrmm |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
I dunno |
| 02:18 |
BakerPrime |
Maybe. Not tonight, but we can look into it maybe. |
| 02:18 |
blaise |
I wonder about some 12 phase |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
but, |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
the reason I ran HV service into the area is that one of his buildings actually uses it |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
so I figure it's more like "Old that survives in a modern world" |
| 02:20 |
BakerPrime |
VanessaE: I know, but I was thinking maybe we could run it in from the backside of the building, and limit the "modern exposure" |
| 02:20 |
BakerPrime |
Yeah |
| 02:20 |
BakerPrime |
I see what you were going for now. |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
hm, yeah I suppose we could. |
| 02:21 |
BakerPrime |
Anyway, it won't be tonight, I gotta be up early tomorrow. |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
where did wd97 disappear to anyway? |
| 02:21 |
BakerPrime |
No idea. |
| 02:21 |
BakerPrime |
He sortah just comes and goes, I think. |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
I suppose so |
| 02:23 |
BakerPrime |
Anyway, I will be AFK from here on out, I should be back tomorrow night sometime. maybe 14-18 hours from now. |
| 02:23 |
BakerPrime |
I will read anything else when I get back. |
| 02:23 |
BakerPrime |
G'night everyone! ; ) |
| 02:28 |
* Sokomine |
fears there'll be charge for power supply on VanessaEs server with all that maintenance required :-) |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
your street doesn't even HAVE service yet :) |
| 02:30 |
Sokomine |
VanessaE: coloring cut pieces...er...yes. i'm still working on that in general. need to find a way to translate the colors between diffrent palettes. until i get a good idea there... |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: don't worry about it until after 0.4.17 is out and unified dyes gets updated accordingly. |
| 02:32 |
Sokomine |
i live so close to spawn and havn't even got power supply :-) |
| 02:32 |
VanessaE |
cheapie should have some idea regarding translating betweem palettes. |
| 02:32 |
VanessaE |
you don't have anything in-home that needs it :) |
| 02:32 |
Sokomine |
:-) i do have some windmills hidden away here and there. the house even has a tower for that very purpose :-) just hidden |
| 02:33 |
VanessaE |
guess I need to take a closer look next time I'm on :) |
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blaise |
hrmm |
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blaise |
do the wind mills generate power? |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
not the ones in Sokomine's cottages mod, but technic's do. |
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blaise |
interesting |
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blaise |
sweet |
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blaise |
I got the innner loop for the first route of my subway completed |
| 06:46 |
blaise |
now to play with the lua stuffs so it stops at the stations |
| 06:46 |
blaise |
I hope it's not too difficult |
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jluc |
arent the stoping blocks ok for this ? |
| 07:13 |
jluc |
i note the url here to remember : midnightsystems.net:30000 |
| 07:14 |
jluc |
minetest could benefit of a "favorite servers" feature ! |
| 07:16 |
Hawk777 |
jluc: AFAICT it already has one? When I connect to a server it stars (favourites) it and shows it at the top of the list. Later I can reconnect or delete the favourite. |
| 07:16 |
Hawk777 |
0.4.16 |
| 07:19 |
VanessaE |
jluc: your "favorites" are the top several items in the server list. |
| 07:20 |
VanessaE |
(the rest of the list comes from the master server list) |
| 07:30 |
jluc |
ahyes right great ! |
| 07:30 |
jluc |
i didnt notice that |
| 07:31 |
jluc |
and what is the 1 to 4 green bars indicator ? |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
ping, I think |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
or lag. |
| 07:33 |
jluc |
k |
| 07:35 |
jluc |
impressive noises with the tube |
| 07:35 |
jluc |
but not so easy travel abilities as for now lol |
| 07:35 |
jluc |
(work in progress) |
| 07:40 |
blaise |
whelp, I got one subway train running good |
| 07:41 |
blaise |
apparently having more than one is a bad idea |
| 07:41 |
blaise |
atleast on the same track |
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swift110-phone_ |
Hey all |
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blaise |
HEY |
| 08:17 |
blaise |
swift110-phone_: how's it going? |
| 08:18 |
swift110-phone_ |
I'm good blaise how are you? |
| 08:19 |
blaise |
I'm okay |
| 08:19 |
blaise |
I just got my first subway train running on my server |
| 08:19 |
blaise |
pretty excited about it |
| 08:20 |
blaise |
normally it comes with 3 cars, I added 4 to it... |
| 08:20 |
blaise |
I haven't quite finished the outer rail yet but the inner rail is fully functional |
| 08:28 |
jluc |
nice elevator's doors |
| 08:28 |
jluc |
in case you like to share knowledge, you could create a tutorial |
| 08:29 |
jluc |
on how you build the elevator and its sensor |
| 08:29 |
jluc |
and on how you build the subway loops |
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shangul |
rubenwardy, which throwing/bow mod do you use for your ctf? |
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blaise |
jluc: say what? |
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blaise |
omg, I gotta get some sleep |
| 09:34 |
blaise |
goodnight |
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pgimeno |
is there something like WiFi for digilines? |
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rubenwardy |
shangul: shooter |
| 12:22 |
shangul |
rubenwardy, link? |
| 12:23 |
rubenwardy |
... |
| 12:23 |
rubenwardy |
!mod shooter |
| 12:23 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Simple Shooter [shooter] by stu - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7846 |
| 12:24 |
shangul |
!help mod |
| 12:24 |
MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
| 12:25 |
shangul |
!mod lucky_block |
| 12:25 |
MinetestBot |
shangul: Lucky Block MT by Alt. Tester - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=10431 |
| 12:25 |
shangul |
!mod airtank |
| 12:25 |
MinetestBot |
shangul: Air tanks [airtanks] by FaceDeer - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=17102 |
| 12:26 |
shangul |
rubenwardy, that's your 2nd github account? |
| 12:26 |
rubenwardy |
no |
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rubenwardy |
it's someone else |
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shangul |
but it's your mod |
| 12:27 |
rubenwardy |
no |
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rubenwardy |
it's by stu |
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rubenwardy |
see the CTF readme, it tells you where mods are from |
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shangul |
ah yes |
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rubenwardy |
shangul, https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/blob/master/README.md#mods |
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jluc |
teams, awards, pfiew lot to explore |
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* BakerPrime |
pings VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
ow. |
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BakerPrime |
Hello Vanessa |
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* VanessaE |
throws a pong at BakerPrime |
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BakerPrime |
Sokomine was complaining that he didn't have power? : P |
| 13:16 |
BakerPrime |
Ouch |
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VanessaE |
she* |
| 13:16 |
VanessaE |
but she doesn't have anything that needs it :P |
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BakerPrime |
Hmm |
| 13:16 |
BakerPrime |
Okay. |
| 13:17 |
BakerPrime |
Where is her house on your server, anyway? |
| 13:17 |
BakerPrime |
Also, I'm looking into replacing the UHV line heading out to Builder123's place and Est's place. |
| 13:17 |
BakerPrime |
Lets put it this way, Zuggeret is the halfway mark. O.o |
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BakerPrime |
VanessaE: Also, I'm removing the line that runs down that underground road that runs from the Harbor area to cheapie-city. |
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BakerPrime |
It's un-used. |
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VanessaE |
ok. |
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VanessaE |
her house is on the road one block west of Lake |
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VanessaE |
I forget the name of the road. |
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VanessaE |
wat |
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BakerPrime |
Oh, Sokomine street. |
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BakerPrime |
It's has service. |
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VanessaE |
Ziggurat is the eastern terminus O_O |
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VanessaE |
it does? |
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VanessaE |
oh. :) |
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BakerPrime |
Nope. I found out yesterday that there is a line that runs from Ziggerat. |
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VanessaE |
huh/ |
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VanessaE |
well, yet another build-out I guess. |
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BakerPrime |
VanessaE: Well, sort of, the service for any customers on Sokomine is run off of Lake. |
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VanessaE |
oh heh |
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VanessaE |
maybe we'll finally find the source of that intermittent 3 MEU |
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BakerPrime |
Oh? |
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VanessaE |
yeah, I thought I'd traced-out the whole network |
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VanessaE |
I didn't know there was another leg out past the Ziggurat. |
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BakerPrime |
VanessaE: Also, the worst part about the extension from Ziggerat, is it's on "default:wood" poles. Scary stuff. O.O |
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VanessaE |
ew. |
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BakerPrime |
Yeah. |
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BakerPrime |
With ladders, and sticks, and fence and crap all over them. |
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BakerPrime |
VanessaE: Originally I never knew there was either, now I do. |
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VanessaE |
huh. |
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BakerPrime |
VanessaE: So what was the random off/on 3MEU? |
| 13:30 |
VanessaE |
no I mean maybe we'll find it on that new-old leg, |
| 13:30 |
VanessaE |
as in I still don't know wtf is causing it. |
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BakerPrime |
Ah |
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BakerPrime |
Darn |
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BakerPrime |
I got excited for a moment. |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
however |
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VanessaE |
at least I finally got rid of all of the redundant switching stations from the HV network |
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VanessaE |
nore put a simple patch in technic that gives me a list |
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BakerPrime |
VanessaE: A "list" of what? Switching stations? |
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VanessaE |
yep |
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VanessaE |
at least of redundantr |
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VanessaE |
... |
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VanessaE |
at least of redundant ones, |
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BakerPrime |
VanessaE: Nice, |
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BakerPrime |
*. |
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VanessaE |
(ironically it doesn't list the location of the one non-redundant one) |
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BakerPrime |
I suspect it's one of Lezzy's old reactor facilities that is causing the 3MEU on/off |
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VanessaE |
could be. |
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BakerPrime |
VanessaE: Also, I cleared all the old sequoias between the Harbor (Or what's left of said "Harbor") and West St last night, and replanted them with Birch Trees to allow more light in that area. Although I left the Rubber trees around Rubber Labs. |
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VanessaE |
ok |
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BakerPrime |
VanessaE: I'll let you deal with this, MOZ built it: http://pasteall.org/pic/index.php?id=123039 |
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Sokomine |
BakerPrime, VanessaE: i'm creating my own power on vanessaes server :-) setting up the technic network was a lot of fun |
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yusf |
Are there some interesting boilerplate (≈good for game creation, flexible, API-rich etc) MT subgames in the works other than Minetest Game? |
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BakerPrime |
Sokomine: Nice, you are setting up a grid too? |
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nepugia |
hey, how do items on the ground store the content? |
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nepugia |
i am trying to call get_inventory on them and seem to be getting a nil back |
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BakerPrime |
Sokomine: MMPC (Mid-Minetest Power Company) and VanessaE have been working on the HV grid on VE-Survival lately. I think we are getting near to the halfway mark on completion. |
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Sokomine |
BakerPrime: i was amongst the first builders on the server :-) |
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Sokomine |
BakerPrime: and i've built the first nuclear reactor. the one at spawn. i was happily setting up my own small network when one day shadowninja came along, dropped more than half of the materials for the reactor at me, and asked for the reactor to be built :-) |
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Sokomine |
others helped with material and construction, and over time spawn area changed a lot |
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Billre |
That's cool. We did a limited version of a HV distribution network on TPS-Extreme for a few players. It was interesting for the people doing it but the server went down before we could expand it. Is there a l lot of interest in that from players? |
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Sokomine |
billre: sure, why not. most players may love to get power supply for free. in crowded areas and in houses it's not always easy to include a local small technic network |
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Sokomine |
back then huge networks where not really possible. technic has grown over time so that it can handle such networks now |
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Billre |
We did it about a year ago. We were going to make a powered village where players could chose their home and they'd already have power and a couple machines but every project of a community housing that I've seen on other servers never seems to work. Everyone wants to build their own base. So what do you do ... provide connections at the street? :D |
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Sokomine |
sounds like a plan, billre :-) |
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Sokomine |
some players ask for ready-made houses, but...that always felt strange to me. after all beeing able to create your own is where the game is really great |
| 15:25 |
nepugia |
people also ask for pre made mods, even though modding is great fun :) |
| 15:26 |
Sokomine |
that's diffrent :-) can't make all the mods one would want to have in a game. there's also sightseeing. build your own *and* explore what others created. double fun :-)) |
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Billre |
Some like the villages pre-builts and move right in ... others say "Look at my house!" And it's a newbie hut. "uhh .. nice! you might want to put a door on it." All kinds, ya know |
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nepugia |
> build your own *and* explore what others created. double fun :-)) |
| 15:27 |
nepugia |
can also apply to mods :) |
| 15:30 |
Krock |
can also apply to software voerall |
| 15:30 |
Krock |
*overall |
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BakerPrime |
Sokomine: Nice. MMPC is looking at building another grid on another server right now, too. It's a creative server, but a realism one. So power is sort of a needed thing. |
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Tommy432 |
Hello |
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srifqi |
Hello, Tommy432 ! |
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Tommy432 |
.msg Shara |
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Tommy432 |
whats going on? |
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danSNDBX |
hi |
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srifqi |
Basically, nothing. |
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danSNDBX |
maybe we should do something :D |
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Billre |
Why would a lock chest show up as a regular chest when you point at it? |
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Tommy432 |
i got a raspberry pi today it plays minetest so slow! what am i doing wrong? |
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t20kdc |
Tommy432: Are you running a client, a server, or singleplayer (which is client & server)? |
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Billre |
headless? |
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Tommy432 |
single player |
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Tommy432 |
im thinking its a video driver issue? |
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pgimeno |
is your frame rate low? |
| 17:34 |
t20kdc |
I'd recommend checking the profiler. Pressing F5 twice should be sufficient. |
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Tommy432 |
very low. |
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t20kdc |
Hm. How far can you see (in-game)? Possibly too high a draw distance... |
| 17:36 |
Tommy432 |
i have it set really low. im new to the rapsberry pi so im sure its just me |
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Tommy432 |
is there a good tutorial that shows how to set up a simple server for anyone to log into? |
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Sokomine |
afaik the pi does not do so well as a client? for quite some time it really couldn't handle displaying a mt client. server was no problem as long as not too many demanding mods are installed |
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Tommy432 |
will a dual core computer serve as a good minetest server computer? |
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t20kdc |
Tommy432: If a Pi is sufficient to run the server acceptably, a regular computer server should be more than enough. |
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t20kdc |
That said, if it happens to be from 1995, exceptions might need to be made. |
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Tommy432 |
im running a version on linux on it now. just downloaded the minetest server package |
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Tommy432 |
the dual core computer seems to play minetest ok, it should handle being a server |
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Tommy432 |
cant seem to log in through the ip address. im thinking theres a config file i have to fool with to tell it which port to use? |
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Tommy432 |
it works fine locally though. i have 3 computers logged into it locally |
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Tommy432 |
but not from the outside world |
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pgimeno |
maybe you need to open the router port and point it to that machine |
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Tommy432 |
the port has been forwarded. does linux block ports with some kind of hidden firewall? im new to linux |
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pgimeno |
udp? |
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Tommy432 |
yes |
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t20kdc |
I should probably note that there shouldn't be a "hidden firewall", no. A rather curious situation to be in, though... Mind, some routers don't like you trying to contact your own IP. |
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t20kdc |
If this is the case, I wouldn't know. |
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Tommy432 |
hmmm. |
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Tommy432 |
i didnt consider that. |
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t20kdc |
Neither did I, until I found out the hard way... |
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Krock |
from my ubuntu system it's possible to start a server straight forward, only forwarding the port on the router config |
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Tommy432 |
lol |
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Tommy432 |
how did you test it? |
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Krock |
MinetestBot can test whether it's up or not: !up <address> <port> |
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Krock |
^ that and volunteers |
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Krock |
hint: MTB also runs commands in PMs |
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t20kdc |
Tommy432: Went someplace else. Krock's solution should work - alternatively, go to a coffee shop? |
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t20kdc |
(That said, coffee shop firewalls are sometimes annoying too. grr.) |
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Tommy432 |
will minetest play on a phone? |
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t20kdc |
Depends. Is it Android? |
| 18:02 |
Tommy432 |
i can use my cell carrier to log in? |
| 18:02 |
Tommy432 |
yes |
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t20kdc |
Tommy432: I still recommend trying MinetestBot first - if it fails, then this will probably fail also - but: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.minetest.minetest |
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t20kdc |
(Krock: ...I should probably read up on that bot's commands, huh.) |
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Krock |
(t20kdc, you should do that) |
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Tommy432 |
how do i activate minetest bot? do i type that in the chat window? |
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Krock |
!up 127.0.0.1 |
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MinetestBot |
127.0.0.1:30000 seems to be down |
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Tommy432 |
!up 24.183.252.83:3000 |
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MinetestBot |
Tommy432: use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' |
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Tommy432 |
!up 24.183.252.83 |
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MinetestBot |
24.183.252.83:30000 seems to be down |
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Tommy432 |
frak |
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dogetest |
Hello. Is this bot? https://github.com/minetest-mods/irc |
| 18:18 |
Krock |
kinda. it's a bridge |
| 18:18 |
Krock |
and here's MTB: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules |
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Tommy432 |
my router has an opton for service name. does that make a difference? i just left it at ftp |
| 18:20 |
dogetest |
python? |
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pgimeno |
Tommy432: FTP typically uses port 21 (which you don't want to use for minetest) |
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Tommy432 |
i have the port set at 3000 |
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pgimeno |
Tommy432: most routers I've used have both services and manual port/protocol redirection |
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Tommy432 |
quake server is an option! omg how old is this router. LOL |
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sfan5 |
set it to "custom" and enter port 30000 udp |
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pgimeno |
Tommy432: maybe you're confusing 3000 with 30000? |
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pgimeno |
Tommy432: Minetest uses 30,000 but you keep talking about 3,000 |
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Krock |
use whatever you want as long there are no conflicts 8) |
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Tommy432 |
!up |
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MinetestBot |
Tommy432: give me an address (and port if you want) |
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Tommy432 |
omg pgimeno i missed a zero! |
| 18:30 |
Tommy432 |
how can i be such stupid? |
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pgimeno |
the important thing is, does it work now? |
| 18:31 |
Tommy432 |
i have to update it but at least it sees it now |
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pgimeno |
yay |
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Tommy432 |
thanks guys for letting me know how dumb i am! |
| 18:32 |
Tommy432 |
LOL |
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Tommy432 |
!up 24.183.252.83 |
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MinetestBot |
24.183.252.83:30000 is up (123ms) |
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pgimeno |
so, everyone happy :) |
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Tommy432 |
one freaking 0 |
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Tommy432 |
Thanks for your help guys |
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dogetest |
https://github.com/dogetest/economy_state |
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* Krock |
gives dogetest a handful of tabs to indent his code |
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t20kdc |
hey, two-space-style isn't that bad |
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t20kdc |
I mean... I do wonder "why use two spaces when you can use one and get the same amount of enragement without as much tapping" |
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t20kdc |
but it's not inherently bad |
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dogetest |
if I only had my GNU box |
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pgimeno |
I like two spaces. I hate tabs. |
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pgimeno |
my own mod uses two spaces too. https://github.com/pgimeno/digiplay |
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dogetest |
to discuss it is like style... I do appreciate critics, but each language sets different style rules/consensus and its hard to keep with each one of them. |
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pgimeno |
tabs default to 8 spaces everywhere - far too much for normal indentation. They make code almost unreadable out of the editors. Some people use different tab sizes and collaborating on the same project results in screwing alignment. Sometimes the coding guidelines don't specify the default tab size (like in the Lua style guide), leading to arbitrary rules about line length. |
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t20kdc |
GNU nano is particularly problematic because I've never bothered to look up how to configure it (I'm particularly scared the L-word will get involved) |
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pgimeno |
I use nano for lots of things, including the above mod. |
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pgimeno |
man nano says -T number changes tab size. |
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serp |
savages (vim and 4spaces) |
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dogetest |
I do use nano too and always configured to switch tabs to 2 spaces |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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Calinou |
t20kdc: I personally prefer 2-space indentation myself |
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Calinou |
I am not very vehement about it, I'm ok with tabs or 4 spaces too, I prefer them because they play better with split editors, even in the era of 16:9 displays |
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Calinou |
(however, please don't default tab display to 8 spaces, that's just cruel :D) |
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* Calinou |
looks at web browsers or nano |
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dogetest |
I'm willing to give some dogecoins to anyone who uses this subgame online. (https://github.com/dogetest/dogeworld) |
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dogetest |
just for the fun of it |
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ThomasMonroe |
O_o free money? |
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dogetest |
if u have free energy and connection then yes |
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ThomasMonroe |
lol |
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dogetest |
the mod needs real money to be played |
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dogetest |
dogecoins on this case |
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dogetest |
I may even work for you |
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dogetest |
just hand me out a shell |
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artimax |
Are you monetizing the subgame w/ dogecoins? |
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artimax |
Im trying to understand the goal |
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dogetest |
artimax: idk all the possibilities, but I feel its more like a faucet |
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dogetest |
basically, there is a mod called economy, which adds a player-vending machine, a server-vending machine and bank atm. Ive made that mod talk to dogecoin |
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dogetest |
so u could sell blocks/itens to a vending in exchange of doges and then buy blocks/itens on those same machines, on player-vending machines or tranfering with bank atm |
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dogetest |
artimax: I also made this protection mod called economy_state which will charge players a fee for digging or placing |
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dogetest |
You also could charge players in exchange of interact privilege |
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