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swift110_ |
hey |
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greeter |
greetings swift110_ |
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swift110_ |
how are you greeter |
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greeter |
doing great. taking a break from minetest by playing nethack. you? |
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swift110_ |
lol |
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swift110_ |
Im good |
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swift110_ |
I am actually getting into minetest more |
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greeter |
awesome :-) |
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swift110_ |
I want A USB joystick to use with it |
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greeter |
that'd be interesting |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Add binoculars mod with binoculars item to allow zoom cc371ac https://git.io/vdiQC (2017-10-13T04:32:18Z) |
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Flairieve |
Just wondering is there any way to make a safe active loop that doesn't freeze up the game? I was trying to make my own function to print the position of the ("Pointed Thing") |
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sfan5 |
Flairieve: that doesn't make much sense since "pointed thing" is not just something you can get |
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sfan5 |
he left, lol |
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deltasquared |
I just had the craziest idea to write a JVM bytecode interpreter in lua for use in minetest... |
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deltasquared |
not for anything particularly fast, mind you. it was just me thinking about how arbitary lua code is really hard to prove halting, and the hoops you have to jump through with say mesecons luacontrollers to do anything useful because of restricted flow control |
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deltasquared |
I remembered the forth machines from redpower 2 in minecraft, and I was like "...hell, why not simulate a stack machine?" |
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deltasquared |
then my java brainwashing took over >_> |
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ThomasMonroe |
XD |
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sfan5 |
are you saying you can solve the halting problem in the JVM? |
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ThomasMonroe |
you and me both deltasquared |
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deltasquared |
sfan5: no, but I *can* make sure that I can prevent the event loop from being held up |
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deltasquared |
execute a finite number of JVM instructions per callback |
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deltasquared |
whereas a non-halting lua function can DOS the server |
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* deltasquared |
wishes for threads for running lua code isolated... |
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deltasquared |
also not to mention that even without clobbering the event loop too many can still impact performance. |
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deltasquared |
sfan5: believe me, if I could solve the halting problem in the case of MT's lua environment I would be yelling a lot louder :P |
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greeter |
greetings all |
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deltasquared |
S-expression parser in lua... apparently I'm getting too cocky with my grasp of computer science. this can't possibly end badly. |
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* red-001 |
awaits lisp interrupter in lua |
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deltasquared |
red-001: "interrupter" I don't get it |
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deltasquared |
did you mean interpreter? |
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* deltasquared |
tries to not sound like a spellchecker |
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red-001 |
yes |
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deltasquared |
red-001: I probably wouldn't do a full lisp interpreter with it. I was looking for a simple-ish syntax to act as a restricted programming language |
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red-001 |
what for? |
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deltasquared |
though, given it's current simplicity, I suspect I won't even need that. |
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deltasquared |
red-001: an in-game scripting facility, but I didn't want to use allow full-blown lua as you can do nasty things to the server with that |
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red-001 |
just sandbox the lua |
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deltasquared |
I should probably just look at how luacontrollers in mesecon do it perhaps >_> |
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deltasquared |
red-001: sandboxing ain't enough |
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deltasquared |
if the script does something stupid like an infinite loop the server's event loop will get blocked |
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red-001 |
ah using up all resources |
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deltasquared |
that too. |
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red-001 |
https://github.com/mozilla-services/lua_sandbox |
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red-001 |
https://github.com/APItools/sandbox.lua/blob/master/sandbox.lua |
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deltasquared |
red-001: hang on, I'm still reading around. |
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orbea |
is there a way to reduce the size of the biomas in map gen v7? |
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orbea |
give it more variety |
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Krock |
orbea, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L1506 |
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Krock |
open the world's map_meta.txt and change the spread to a lower value |
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paramat |
ninja'd |
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Krock |
paramat, heh. Came here for the same? |
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paramat |
'heat' and 'humidity' noises |
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paramat |
yeah |
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paramat |
the 3 numbers in brackets, reduce those, keep all 3 the same |
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orbea |
awesome,thanks |
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paramat |
those are the (very rough) max size of biomes in nodes |
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paramat |
of course best set those before starting a world |
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paramat |
as they're stored per-world |
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orbea |
yea |
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Krock |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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paramat |
you can leave the 'blend' noises alone |
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rdococ |
I booted into Safe Mode and removed the Netintelligence folder in Program Files (x86). |
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rdococ |
I cannot connect to the internet at all, except for things like IRC. |
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rdococ |
Gonna re-enter safe mode, and see if I missed any crud. |
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rdococ |
still the same |
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rdococ |
in safe mode |
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greeter |
hmm. people keep timing out on my server, and one of the users has confirmed that the issue isn't on their end. the vps itself looks fine. could there be something wrong i've done in MT causing this? |
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Krock |
the user's fault. They should stop using weak devices or run the app in the brackground |
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greeter |
hmm. weird that everyone else would get kicked off. maybe i just have better hardware than they did? |
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Krock |
most likely |
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greeter |
cool :-) except that i have some unhappy users lol |
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Krock |
the other possibility would be that they play on the mars and thus receive the packets way too late (quite unrealistic in this time) |
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greeter |
that's precisely why i didn't play multiplayer minetest when all we had out here was satellite internet. it was the very first thing i tried out when we finally got the upgrade to DSL |
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Krock |
to Damn Small Linux? :P |
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greeter |
lol no :-P |
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greeter |
just can't wait till my fiancee and i move in together, then we'll be living somewhere that has fiber op |
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greeter |
plus we can discuss our plans for minetest without any record of such discussions existing :-P |
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Fixer |
satelillite internet, let me guess Antarctica, Africa, USA |
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Fixer |
satellite* |
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sofar |
there's no meaningful satellite on antarctica |
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sofar |
most comm satellites don't go over the poles |
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Fixer |
that was a joke |
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Fixer |
i always had impression USA had really shitty ISPs |
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sofar |
we do |
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Fixer |
and still has |
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greeter |
canada actually. satellite internet might be great in places but i live in a temperate rainforest. satellite is the stupidest means of communication out here |
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sofar |
they blow chunks |
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Fixer |
kinda amazing |
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WSDguy2014_ |
Hello, i got a big problem: I tried to post a screenshot from the game "Minetest" to showcase in Most Wanted Online Discord server and now it's gone wrong! Take a look for chat log!!! https://imgur.com/JScVjhg Your Minetest developers need to help for me to ask admin to remove strike for WSDguy2014 now! |
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sofar |
this isn't a "wehh wehh I got banned" channel |
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deltasquared |
I'm not going to lie, I read that and almost knee-jerked "/kick" |
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sofar |
oh look you're in nsfw-ru and nsfw-en |
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sofar |
WSDguy2014_: classy |
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deltasquared |
WSDguy2014_: we're not your private army, we don't deal with discord. nothing to do with us. |
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greeter |
so glad i don't do discord lol |
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Krock |
^ |
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WSDguy2014_ |
sofar, i can't to look at both nsfw-ru and nsfw-en, because it's age restricted and i'm not 18 year old yet. |
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deltasquared |
I suspect this is going to become flaming or otherwise antagonising pretty quickly. I might just calmly ask everyone to keep their heads on... |
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deltasquared |
it says removed at the end of the image anyway *shrug* |
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sofar |
llama llama discord drama |
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Fixer |
rap sheet file, what the a.ck did I read? |
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deltasquared |
Fixer: most wanted tame-ish 4chan-like? |
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deltasquared |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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red-001 |
sofar, discord channels are in no way related to how IRC channels work, dunno why they prefix them with a # |
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red-001 |
hi osdever |
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osdever |
l0l |
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osdever |
hi |
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osdever |
the guy is kinda dumb |
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red-001 |
do ignore WSDguy2014 |
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osdever |
"they tryna ban me help mi!!!!!!!!!!111" |
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osdever |
yet he promoted the server lmao |
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Krock |
moving the topic here doesn't solve the war btw |
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osdever |
he's also literally saying "ITS 18+ I CANT OPEN NSFW EN AND RU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" |
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osdever |
yet mostly there's no 18+ content in those at all |
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red-001 |
I would complain this is offtopic but that's this channel most of the time |
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Fixer |
yeah |
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* greeter |
relishes in the peace of IRC |
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deltasquared |
who offtopics the offtopic... |
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* osdever |
ok |
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Flairieve |
Is there any such thing as a wait or a sleep, I know there is minetest.after but I want to use it inside a IF statement and not call a function. |
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Krock |
never waste time in Lua. It will block other mods and the serverside code |
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red-001 |
^ |
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Krock |
note that minetest.after can pass arguments to the given function |
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Krock |
i.e. minetest.after(2, function(arg1, arg2) do_important_things() end, arg1, arg2) |
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Flairieve |
I want to do something like this function hello() print("Before five seconds") minetest.after(5) print("After five seconds") end |
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Flairieve |
How do you register an account on the IRC? |
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sofar |
do /msg nickserv help |
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Flairieve |
Can I run the NickServ command in the Status section? |
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Flairieve |
Now how do I login into my account? |
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o11c |
Flairieve: if you use a real IRC client that can save the info for you, it's much easier |
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o11c |
Flairieve: in order of precedence, a real client should try: SSL client cert, SASL, server password, nickserv |
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o11c |
except I haven't met a single client that doesn't support at least one of the first 3 |
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Flairieve |
hmm |
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Flairieve |
Uhh how do you use SASL? |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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swift110 |
Is anyone playing minetest right now |
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o11c |
swift110: nope, too busy filling out the periodic table of elements |
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Flairieve |
Ok I think I figured it out now |
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thetaepsilon |
swift110: maybe, though half for mod devel purposes. |
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Flairieve |
So like I said before, I wanted to do something like this function hi() print("Hello") minetest.after(5) print("World") end |
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swift110 |
oh ok thePalindrome |
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MinetestBot |
[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Formspec: Fallback to 'label' in readonly textarea[] 6b23cab https://git.io/vdX03 (2017-10-13T21:14:39Z) |
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swift110 |
goodness I got plenty of time to play minetest today finally |
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