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dogetest |
I need to prevent players from digging/placing, but cant find a way to it |
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red-001 |
interact privilege |
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dogetest |
actually, I need to charge a fee from player, if player can pay, he may interact, but if not, he shouldnt interact |
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dogetest |
Inside register_on_dignode Im trying: local inv = digger:get_inventory() local drop = minetest.get_node_drops(oldnode.name, nil)[1] if inv:remove_item(drop,1) then minetest.set_node(pos,oldnode) end . while set_node get executed, drop isnt removed from inventory |
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BBmine |
What's the best way to report users on the forums? |
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sfan5 |
click the report button |
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BBmine |
I don't see a report button on his profile. (He has no posts, but his profile is just an advertizement for porn) |
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VanessaE |
BBmine: link? |
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VanessaE |
(I believe it's a /!\ button by the way) |
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BBmine |
Here it is: https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=21003 |
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VanessaE |
sorted. |
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BBmine |
Thanks :) |
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VanessaE |
yw. |
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BBmine |
I don't see a /!\ button on profiles. |
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VanessaE |
oh right, derp. I mean on his posts, which he has none. |
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VanessaE |
no worries, you did right. |
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BBmine |
Profiles should really have one, IMO |
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Lone-Star |
ok, gonna ask again, I have a mod that keeps disabling itself on world or game exit. handle_schematics is the mod in question, what's up with that? |
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Calinou: Hey, I just connected to your server my machine uploads data instead of downloading media why is that? |
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CalebDavis |
ok i am adding an entity and then attaching it to the player but is dissapears when i attach it but it reapears when i leave and re-join but it isnt attached anymore why is it dissapearing |
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Calinou |
Niebieski: uh… |
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Calinou |
how do you know? |
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Calinou |
to play a networked game, your machine needs to download *and* upload data |
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Calinou |
however it's not going to upload it to the web server :) |
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rdococ |
is Windows designed to get laggier over time, so you have to restart, causing windows updates? |
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sy |
yes |
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sy |
how else would they convince you updates make a difference |
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rdococ |
heh |
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rdococ |
of course, I could just disable windows update. then again, I did that on my mother's laptop (set it to "don't even download updates"), and by the looks of it, it was still doing something related to updates as I restarted it |
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sy |
heh |
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sy |
can't escape the botnet |
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rdococ |
in actuality, though, all it's doing is tempting me to switch to linux faster than I already planned on doing |
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rdococ |
or, rather, back to linux |
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rdococ |
so maybe windows should stop slowing down in an attempt to trick me |
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rdococ |
it might just make me use it a little longer before I decide it's time to stop playing around |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Rooted plantlike drawtype: Add remaining documentation a016b64 https://git.io/v5AUV (2017-09-19T08:35:28Z) |
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IhrFussel |
rdococ, Windows OS slows down over time because it uses the registry system which is utterly stupid and I'm glad Linux doesn't |
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IhrFussel |
Maybe the registry doesn't slow it down in a matter of days, but as you install and uninstall lots of software the registry will be full of crap you don't need |
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Calinou |
Windows slowdowns over time were greatly reduced as of Windows 8/10 |
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Calinou |
it's barely noticeable now, especially on a SSD |
| 10:54 |
Calinou |
so, you don't quite need to reinstall every 6 months :) |
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Calinou |
IhrFussel: also, there's software for cleaning the registry, if you really need to |
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Calinou |
but on modern hardware, you don't need to |
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IhrFussel |
Calinou, AFAIK Windows still uses the crappy registry system...as long as it does it will never be as good as Linux in that regard |
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IhrFussel |
To install 3rd party software to clean up a stupid system part is no solution IMO |
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Calinou |
IhrFussel: it uses the registry still |
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Calinou |
also, the registry system isn't bad per se, though it might be slow |
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Calinou |
Linux has many flaws in the management of configuration and settings, too |
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IhrFussel |
Calinou, Linux does not EVER slow down...if it does you did something wrong |
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Calinou |
I think it can |
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IhrFussel |
Ubuntu doesn't I use it since 3 years |
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IhrFussel |
Like I said..if it does, you changed something in the system you shouldn't change |
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IhrFussel |
Or you probably forget to purge software you don't need anymore...some people only use "remove" which doesn't touch config files |
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Calinou |
anyway, on modern hardware and software, the Windows slowdown isn't noticeable |
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Calinou |
(it doesn't have to be high-end – as long as you have a SSD and a non-crappy CPU, it's good) |
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IhrFussel |
Calinou, if you say so^^ ... what about RAM management? Does Windows not claim ~ 50% of your RAM for the OS anymore? |
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IhrFussel |
I've got 8 GB RAM now and Linux let's me use ~ 7 of them ... back when I had Win 7 I had 1 GB RAM and could only use ~ 400 MB for myself |
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IhrFussel |
On my older PC with 768 MB RAM I had Xubuntu 16.04 and the OS only claimed 30% ... that's what I call efficient |
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Calinou |
IhrFussel: unused RAM is wasted RAM :) |
| 11:13 |
Calinou |
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
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Calinou |
is also for Windows |
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Calinou |
available memory ≠free memory |
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IhrFussel |
Calinou, No what I mean is I didn't have more than 50% RAM for my personal use..Windows "stole" 50% |
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IhrFussel |
And as soon as I tried to load a program that used than my 50% the OS completely slowed down |
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IhrFussel |
used more* |
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IhrFussel |
Even MS accepts that some parts of Linux are just better designed, so they added the Bash shell for example |
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IhrFussel |
Windows still looks better, looks more modern, gets more support and is overall more popular...but the Linux OS does many things better under the hood and that's a fact |
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Calinou |
IhrFussel: how much RAM did you have? |
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Calinou |
you want 8 GB of RAM on Windows 10, really |
| 11:18 |
Calinou |
4 GB isn't great today, like it or not |
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Calinou |
(even on Linux, if you use GNOME or KDE) |
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IhrFussel |
I had 1 GB with Win 7 and 768 MB with Xubuntu 16.04 ... the latter worked better |
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IhrFussel |
Xubuntu works very fast with 768 MB..trust me |
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asl97 |
Off topic much? anyway, you can't really compare linux (kernel) and windows as a whole, linux with other software as a whole aren't perfect, there a numbers parts which does slow down overtime until something is done every now and then. |
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asl97 |
The linux intergration is just a stupid pr stuff to try to pull linux users to windows, I doubt most windows user would even know about it, let alone uses it. |
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IhrFussel |
Maybe you wait 1 or 2 secs before the browser opens, but it's faster than any Windows |
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IhrFussel |
asl97, I know that "Linux" isn't one defined OS... the performance depends on DE, software installed, kernel features enabled/disabled...and much more |
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IhrFussel |
But Linux is more open and offers more options...Windows doesn't even let you touch their "kernel" |
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Calinou |
I'll just leave this here: https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html |
| 11:30 |
Calinou |
some of the points of the article are right, some are wrong. |
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Calinou |
still, it's interesting if you're having an overly good day :) |
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CalebDavis |
ok i am adding an entity and then attaching it to the player but is dissapears when i attach it but it reapears when i leave and re-join but it isnt attached anymore why is it dissapearing? |
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Niebieski |
Calinou: The machine keeps on uploading without downloading media and it couldn't connect after all. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] DS-Minetest -> minetest-mods/mesecons: Prevent wires from being rotated (#365) 1963d8b https://git.io/v5AA9 (2017-09-19T15:12:00Z) |
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rdococ |
WOOF QUACK IM A CAT SWAN |
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jas_ |
i'm just kidding about the tooltips having images |
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jas_ |
(i think) |
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https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6442 |
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rdococ |
hm |
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Calinou |
Niebieski: check your firewall status, I don't have issues here |
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Calinou |
if I delete my cache and join, it works |
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Niebieski |
Calinou: Why do you think that the firewall is causing a problem? |
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Calinou |
Niebieski: Windows? :P |
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Niebieski |
No, Linux. |
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Calinou |
and even on Linux, some distros such as Fedora like enabling it by default |
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Niebieski |
but why would a firewall cause the machine to upload data. |
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Calinou |
Niebieski: are you using a distribution-provided Minetest package? if so, try compiling 0.4.16 from source and see |
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Calinou |
(https://github.com/minetest/minetest, use the branch "stable-0.4") |
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Niebieski |
I use this branch. |
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Niebieski |
Maybe it uploads the hash of my media to validate it? I don't know. |
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Calinou |
Niebieski: I don't think so |
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Calinou |
it's really strange, it doesn't happen on both my desktop and laptop (both run Windows, though) |
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Calinou |
but I'm pretty sure I've had Linux clients joining without issues |
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Niebieski |
I'll try again and maybe I'll send you some screenshots. |
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Niebieski |
Calinou: Oddly enough it worked now. |
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Wuzzy |
Announcing #minetest-mod-dev! A new channel dedicated only to Minetest mod development! |
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sy |
heh finally |
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rubenwardy |
Wuzzy, nah |
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rubenwardy |
we had #minetest-mods |
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Wuzzy |
HAD |
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Wuzzy |
hey, give me a chance :) |
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sfan5 |
it's quiet enough here to use it for mod dev |
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rubenwardy |
sorry, didn't mean to be so dismissive |
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Wuzzy |
sometimes #minetest can get really busy |
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sofar |
-hub is fine for mod dev stuff, too |
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sofar |
Wuzzy: can you send me those typo screenshots? |
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Wuzzy |
I will post info in thread. Currently collecting info |
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sofar |
I'm a little bit peeved that you suggest that I underestimate good writing skills |
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sofar |
hint: that's an understatement |
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sofar |
so, you can make me forget about it by showing me ones that you have found |
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sofar |
I'll look at box 8 and the torch/gravel issue tonight, I'm still at work |
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sofar |
from what I remember, neither you nor me are native english speakers who take some pride in creating proper written english sentences... |
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sofar |
it pains me to see that that feeling isn't at least a bit mutual |
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sofar |
anyway, back to work |
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rdococ |
hi |
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sofar |
Wuzzy: I am envious of the amount of time you are capable of putting into MCl2 |
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* sofar |
is trying to remember box 101, but can't |
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Wuzzy |
Yet Another Box. |
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Wuzzy |
how much time do you have for all things Minetest, sofar? |
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Wuzzy |
or is this question too private? :D |
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sofar |
heh, sometimes 20 minutes a day |
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sofar |
I can lurk irc or browse the forums most of the day |
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sofar |
but, actual work, not so much |
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sofar |
if you "dig" with a "shovel" and "chop" with an "axe", then what do you do with a pickaxe? |
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