Time  Nick        Message
00:07 dogetest    I need to prevent players from digging/placing, but cant find a way to it
00:08 red-001     interact privilege
00:12 dogetest    actually, I need to charge a fee from player, if player can pay, he may interact, but if not, he shouldnt interact
00:31 dogetest    Inside register_on_dignode Im trying: local inv = digger:get_inventory() local drop = minetest.get_node_drops(oldnode.name, nil)[1] if inv:remove_item(drop,1) then minetest.set_node(pos,oldnode) end . while set_node get executed, drop isnt removed from inventory
00:32 BBmine      What's the best way to report users on the forums?
00:33 sfan5       click the report button
00:33 BBmine      I don't see a report button on his profile. (He has no posts, but his profile is just an advertizement for porn)
00:39 VanessaE    BBmine: link?
00:39 VanessaE    (I believe it's a /!\ button by the way)
00:39 BBmine      Here it is: https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=21003
00:40 VanessaE    sorted.
00:40 BBmine      Thanks :)
00:40 VanessaE    yw.
00:41 BBmine      I don't see a /!\ button on profiles.
00:41 VanessaE    oh right, derp.  I mean on his posts, which he has none.
00:41 VanessaE    no worries, you did right.
00:41 BBmine      Profiles should really have one, IMO
00:53 Lone-Star   ok, gonna ask again, I have a mod that keeps disabling itself on world or game exit. handle_schematics is the mod in question, what's up with that?
01:20 Niebieski   Calinou: Hey, I just connected to your server my machine uploads data instead of downloading media why is that?
02:45 CalebDavis  ok i am adding an entity and then attaching it to the player but is dissapears when i attach it but it reapears when i leave and re-join but it isnt attached anymore why is it dissapearing
07:45 Calinou     Niebieski: uh…
07:45 Calinou     how do you know?
07:45 Calinou     to play a networked game, your machine needs to download *and* upload data
07:45 Calinou     however it's not going to upload it to the web server :)
08:09 rdococ      is Windows designed to get laggier over time, so you have to restart, causing windows updates?
08:10 sy          yes
08:10 sy          how else would they convince you updates make a difference
08:10 rdococ      heh
08:11 rdococ      of course, I could just disable windows update. then again, I did that on my mother's laptop (set it to "don't even download updates"), and by the looks of it, it was still doing something related to updates as I restarted it
08:13 sy          heh
08:13 sy          can't escape the botnet
08:13 rdococ      in actuality, though, all it's doing is tempting me to switch to linux faster than I already planned on doing
08:13 rdococ      or, rather, back to linux
08:19 rdococ      so maybe windows should stop slowing down in an attempt to trick me
08:19 rdococ      it might just make me use it a little longer before I decide it's time to stop playing around
08:39 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Rooted plantlike drawtype: Add remaining documentation 13a016b64 https://git.io/v5AUV (152017-09-19T08:35:28Z)
10:05 IhrFussel   rdococ, Windows OS slows down over time because it uses the registry system which is utterly stupid and I'm glad Linux doesn't
10:06 IhrFussel   Maybe the registry doesn't slow it down in a matter of days, but as you install and uninstall lots of software the registry will be full of crap you don't need
10:54 Calinou     Windows slowdowns over time were greatly reduced as of Windows 8/10
10:54 Calinou     it's barely noticeable now, especially on a SSD
10:54 Calinou     so, you don't quite need to reinstall every 6 months :)
10:54 Calinou     IhrFussel: also, there's software for cleaning the registry, if you really need to
10:55 Calinou     but on modern hardware, you don't need to
10:57 IhrFussel   Calinou, AFAIK Windows still uses the crappy registry system...as long as it does it will never be as good as Linux in that regard
10:58 IhrFussel   To install 3rd party software to clean up a stupid system part is no solution IMO
11:01 Calinou     IhrFussel: it uses the registry still
11:01 Calinou     also, the registry system isn't bad per se, though it might be slow
11:01 Calinou     Linux has many flaws in the management of configuration and settings, too
11:03 IhrFussel   Calinou, Linux does not EVER slow down...if it does you did something wrong
11:03 Calinou     I think it can
11:04 IhrFussel   Ubuntu doesn't I use it since 3 years
11:05 IhrFussel   Like I said..if it does, you changed something in the system you shouldn't change
11:06 IhrFussel   Or you probably forget to purge software you don't need anymore...some people only use "remove" which doesn't touch config files
11:06 Calinou     anyway, on modern hardware and software, the Windows slowdown isn't noticeable
11:06 Calinou     (it doesn't have to be high-end – as long as you have a SSD and a non-crappy CPU, it's good)
11:08 IhrFussel   Calinou, if you say so^^ ... what about RAM management? Does Windows not claim ~ 50% of your RAM for the OS anymore?
11:10 IhrFussel   I've got 8 GB RAM now and Linux let's me use ~ 7 of them ... back when I had Win 7 I had 1 GB RAM and could only use ~ 400 MB for myself
11:12 IhrFussel   On my older PC with 768 MB RAM I had Xubuntu 16.04 and the OS only claimed 30% ... that's what I call efficient
11:12 Calinou     IhrFussel: unused RAM is wasted RAM :)
11:13 Calinou     http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
11:13 Calinou     is also for Windows
11:13 Calinou     available memory ≠ free memory
11:14 IhrFussel   Calinou, No what I mean is I didn't have more than 50% RAM for my personal use..Windows "stole" 50%
11:15 IhrFussel   And as soon as I tried to load a program that used than my 50% the OS completely slowed down
11:15 IhrFussel   used more*
11:17 IhrFussel   Even MS accepts that some parts of Linux are just better designed, so they added the Bash shell for example
11:18 IhrFussel   Windows still looks better, looks more modern, gets more support and is overall more popular...but the Linux OS does many things better under the hood and that's a fact
11:18 Calinou     IhrFussel: how much RAM did you have?
11:18 Calinou     you want 8 GB of RAM on Windows 10, really
11:18 Calinou     4 GB isn't great today, like it or not
11:19 Calinou     (even on Linux, if you use GNOME or KDE)
11:19 IhrFussel   I had 1 GB with Win 7 and 768 MB with Xubuntu 16.04 ... the latter worked better
11:20 IhrFussel   Xubuntu works very fast with 768 MB..trust me
11:20 asl97       Off topic much?  anyway, you can't really compare linux (kernel) and windows as a whole,  linux with other software as a whole aren't perfect, there a numbers parts which does slow down overtime until something is done every now and then.
11:20 asl97       The linux intergration is just a stupid pr stuff to try to pull linux users to windows, I doubt most windows user would even know about it, let alone uses it.
11:20 IhrFussel   Maybe you wait 1 or 2 secs before the browser opens, but it's faster than any Windows
11:22 IhrFussel   asl97, I know that "Linux" isn't one defined OS... the performance depends on DE, software installed, kernel features enabled/disabled...and much more
11:22 IhrFussel   But Linux is more open and offers more options...Windows doesn't even let you touch their "kernel"
11:30 Calinou     I'll just leave this here: https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html
11:30 Calinou     some of the points of the article are right, some are wrong.
11:30 Calinou     still, it's interesting if you're having an overly good day :)
11:47 CalebDavis  ok i am adding an entity and then attaching it to the player but is dissapears when i attach it but it reapears when i leave and re-join but it isnt attached anymore why is it dissapearing?
13:13 Niebieski   Calinou: The machine keeps on uploading without downloading media and it couldn't connect after all.
15:14 MinetestBot 02[git] 04DS-Minetest -> 03minetest-mods/mesecons: Prevent wires from being rotated (#365) 131963d8b https://git.io/v5AA9 (152017-09-19T15:12:00Z)
15:32 rdococ      WOOF QUACK IM A CAT SWAN
17:02 jas_        i'm just kidding about the tooltips having images
17:02 jas_        (i think)
17:03 jas_        https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6442
17:43 rdococ      hm
17:48 Calinou     Niebieski: check your firewall status, I don't have issues here
17:49 Calinou     if I delete my cache and join, it works
18:01 Niebieski   Calinou: Why do you think that the firewall is causing a problem?
18:01 Calinou     Niebieski: Windows? :P
18:01 Niebieski   No, Linux.
18:01 Calinou     and even on Linux, some distros such as Fedora like enabling it by default
18:02 Niebieski   but why would a firewall cause the machine to upload data.
18:06 Calinou     Niebieski: are you using a distribution-provided Minetest package? if so, try compiling 0.4.16 from source and see
18:06 Calinou     (https://github.com/minetest/minetest, use the branch "stable-0.4")
18:06 Niebieski   I use this branch.
18:08 Niebieski   Maybe it uploads the hash of my media to validate it? I don't know.
18:17 Calinou     Niebieski: I don't think so
18:17 Calinou     it's really strange, it doesn't happen on both my desktop and laptop (both run Windows, though)
18:17 Calinou     but I'm pretty sure I've had Linux clients joining without issues
18:19 Niebieski   I'll try again and maybe I'll send you some screenshots.
18:56 Niebieski   Calinou: Oddly enough it worked now.
21:24 Wuzzy       Announcing #minetest-mod-dev! A new channel dedicated only to Minetest mod development!
21:28 sy          heh finally
21:30 rubenwardy  Wuzzy, nah
21:30 rubenwardy  we had #minetest-mods
21:30 Wuzzy       HAD
21:31 Wuzzy       hey, give me a chance :)
21:31 sfan5       it's quiet enough here to use it for mod dev
21:31 rubenwardy  sorry, didn't mean to be so dismissive
21:31 Wuzzy       sometimes #minetest can get really busy
22:01 sofar       -hub is fine for mod dev stuff, too
22:16 sofar       Wuzzy: can you send me those typo screenshots?
22:16 Wuzzy       I will post info in thread. Currently collecting info
22:16 sofar       I'm a little bit peeved that you suggest that I underestimate good writing skills
22:17 sofar       hint: that's an understatement
22:17 sofar       so, you can make me forget about it by showing me ones that you have found
22:18 sofar       I'll look at box 8 and the torch/gravel issue tonight, I'm still at work
22:19 sofar       from what I remember, neither you nor me are native english speakers who take some pride in creating proper written english sentences...
22:19 sofar       it pains me to see that that feeling isn't at least a bit mutual
22:20 sofar       anyway, back to work
22:28 rdococ      hi
22:40 sofar       Wuzzy: I am envious of the amount of time you are capable of putting into MCl2
22:47 * sofar     is trying to remember box 101, but can't
22:52 Wuzzy       Yet Another Box.
22:53 Wuzzy       how much time do you have for all things Minetest, sofar?
22:54 Wuzzy       or is this question too private? :D
23:11 sofar       heh, sometimes 20 minutes a day
23:11 sofar       I can lurk irc or browse the forums most of the day
23:11 sofar       but, actual work, not so much
23:27 sofar       if you "dig" with a "shovel" and "chop" with an "axe", then what do you do with a pickaxe?