| Time |
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| 00:00 |
Wuzzy |
like you said, the nether, hades, <insert evil underworld here> |
| 00:00 |
Asad3ainJalout |
although, i may avoid that and just install the asteroids one that just adds asteroids and comets |
| 00:00 |
Wuzzy |
Asad3ainJalout: jeez. just. try. it. ouT! already! duuude |
| 00:00 |
Lone-Star |
found the space and nether mods lacking. if you are thinking it will be the same as minecraft, you will be disappointed |
| 00:01 |
Wuzzy |
Well MineClone 2 has the Nether, too. I almost like it. XD |
| 00:01 |
Asad3ainJalout |
Lone-Star: they won't be, but i want to add a change of scenery, so far, minetest seems to have the best engine (lighter, faster, more customizeable) however it lacks in terms of content |
| 00:01 |
Asad3ainJalout |
this is due to smaller non fulltime/professional dev team followed by smaller community so less modders |
| 00:01 |
Asad3ainJalout |
that being said, i use open source for more reasons than it looks pretty |
| 00:02 |
Wuzzy |
Minetest does not really lack in content. Minetest GAME lacks in content |
| 00:02 |
Asad3ainJalout |
Wuzzy: the mobs in minetest are nowhere near the level of mobs made in minecraft mods and heck the base game |
| 00:03 |
Asad3ainJalout |
the sound effects, visuals and overall aesthetics and polish of movement are all better in minecraft |
| 00:03 |
Wuzzy |
yeah, mobs DO suck |
| 00:03 |
Wuzzy |
well, minetest DOES lack in features |
| 00:03 |
Asad3ainJalout |
the technical mods are better in minecraft |
| 00:03 |
Asad3ainJalout |
as wella sth e magic |
| 00:03 |
Asad3ainJalout |
but once again |
| 00:03 |
Wuzzy |
"technical mods"? |
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Asad3ainJalout |
i use minetest cause at it's core it's better |
| 00:03 |
Wuzzy |
I like Mesecons much more than redstone, just from the concept |
| 00:03 |
Asad3ainJalout |
I will need to play more with mesecons |
| 00:03 |
Wuzzy |
mesecons needs a bit polish but overall its great |
| 00:04 |
Asad3ainJalout |
ANYWAYS let me get the maggen setup :D |
| 00:04 |
Wuzzy |
redstone has so many gotchas |
| 00:04 |
Asad3ainJalout |
Wuzzy: when was the last time you played feed the beast minecraft? |
| 00:04 |
Wuzzy |
never haha |
| 00:04 |
Asad3ainJalout |
you will see what i mean by minetest lacking on the technical side if you have ever played feed the beast ulimate pack |
| 00:04 |
Asad3ainJalout |
also the magical side |
| 00:05 |
Wuzzy |
i asked you what is a "technical mod", not if MT is lacking in features |
| 00:05 |
Lone-Star |
one think i do like about mesecons, is the compactness of it. i have built some really complex systems that would have been 30 blocks in MC, but a third of that in MT |
| 00:05 |
Lone-Star |
8thing |
| 00:05 |
Lone-Star |
*thing |
| 00:05 |
Wuzzy |
Exactly that |
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Wuzzy |
the redstone rules are outright weird |
| 00:06 |
Lone-Star |
right |
| 00:06 |
Wuzzy |
not even vertical redstone. whyyyyyyy |
| 00:06 |
Wuzzy |
how can you minecrafters even live without vertical redstone xD |
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Asad3ainJalout |
Wuzzy: hmm buildcraft, tinkerers construct, the applied energistics, industrial craft (i am skipping tekkit cause minetest has techit) |
| 00:07 |
Lone-Star |
when i saw that mese could run vert, i almost jizzed myself, lol |
| 00:07 |
Asad3ainJalout |
there are others these are the ones i remember |
| 00:10 |
Wuzzy |
Asad3ainJalout: well you could always try to convince some MC modders to go to MT. :D many Minecrafters were pissed because of the MS sellout |
| 00:10 |
Asad3ainJalout |
most just stopped playing |
| 00:10 |
Asad3ainJalout |
I am close friends with the guy who made the secret rooms mod on minecraft |
| 00:11 |
Asad3ainJalout |
i asked him to make his mod here, unfortunately, he does not enjoy programming in any language but java |
| 00:11 |
Asad3ainJalout |
nor does he have time to program for fun |
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Wuzzy |
he did have time for MC mods, so ... |
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Wuzzy |
if he knows java well then lua will be a piece of cake |
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Wuzzy |
refusing to learn lua when you already know java well seems like total brain damage to me |
| 00:14 |
Wuzzy |
lua is is probably easiest language ever. definitely not the best. but it does the job |
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Asad3ainJalout |
he had time to make minecraft mods when he was in college :D hes working full time while going for his masters Wuzzy :D |
| 00:15 |
Asad3ainJalout |
he knows lua, and many other languages, he just does not have fun with them |
| 00:15 |
Wuzzy |
argh. always this stupid "real life" coming in the way. xD |
| 00:15 |
Lone-Star |
real life sux |
| 00:16 |
Asad3ainJalout |
lol |
| 00:16 |
Asad3ainJalout |
hey without real life, we would not have minetest |
| 00:16 |
Lone-Star |
but it pays the bills |
| 00:16 |
Wuzzy |
real life is an illusion. the matrix is real. black is white. sun is moon. 1=0. P=NP. |
| 00:16 |
Asad3ainJalout |
hey, i cannot download this zip file https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14497 |
| 00:16 |
Asad3ainJalout |
can any of you give it a shot? |
| 00:17 |
Wuzzy |
try again |
| 00:17 |
Wuzzy |
https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=7985 |
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Lone-Star |
im trying to learn lua, but im to old now, i cant remember what i did yesterday |
| 00:17 |
Wuzzy |
arent people never too old to learn? |
| 00:18 |
Asad3ainJalout |
"could not be saved, because the source file could not be read. |
| 00:18 |
Asad3ainJalout |
Try again later, or contact the server administrator. |
| 00:18 |
Asad3ainJalout |
thats what i keep getting |
| 00:18 |
Lone-Star |
never to old to learn, its the remembering what you learned is the problem |
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Lone-Star |
i did manage to write a small mod though, the non jumpable fences mod :D |
| 00:19 |
Wuzzy |
try again: https://www.load.to/nrMqC5eZRi/ByUjEdwinV2_space.zip |
| 00:20 |
Wuzzy |
Lone-Star: are your fences *REALLY* non-jumpable? |
| 00:20 |
Wuzzy |
did you test with sneakjumping? |
| 00:20 |
Lone-Star |
yup |
| 00:20 |
Wuzzy |
did you test with sneakjumping? |
| 00:20 |
Wuzzy |
if yes then i am very excited |
| 00:20 |
Lone-Star |
fences have a collision box of 1.5 |
| 00:21 |
Wuzzy |
ok then the answer is no :( |
| 00:21 |
Wuzzy |
this is exactly how fences in MineClone 2 and Minecraft work |
| 00:21 |
Lone-Star |
let me see right quick |
| 00:21 |
Wuzzy |
its a bug in MT, i guess |
| 00:21 |
Wuzzy |
you cant do much about it |
| 00:22 |
Wuzzy |
unless fixing MT xD |
| 00:24 |
Lone-Star |
yeah, i can sneak jump over 1 fence, but not 2 |
| 00:24 |
Lone-Star |
but for keeping animal mobs in, it works for what i wanted it to do |
| 00:25 |
Asad3ainJalout |
Wuzzy: still cannot download it, am downloading the other_worlds mod instead, also, what good mobs mods are there, non-violent ones mind you |
| 00:26 |
Wuzzy |
non-violent mods? |
| 00:26 |
Wuzzy |
you should be more specific |
| 00:26 |
Lone-Star |
kgpmobs |
| 00:26 |
Asad3ainJalout |
non-violent mobs |
| 00:26 |
Wuzzy |
oh |
| 00:26 |
Lone-Star |
mobs_animals |
| 00:27 |
Asad3ainJalout |
my kid are young, don't need them freaking out too much |
| 00:27 |
Lone-Star |
those two i just listed is only animals |
| 00:27 |
Asad3ainJalout |
nice |
| 00:27 |
Asad3ainJalout |
Thank you Lone-Star |
| 00:30 |
Lone-Star |
just check them out in the forums, cant remember what other mod dependencies they have, i know one needs mobs_redo |
| 00:31 |
Asad3ainJalout |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=629 this one, and this one https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9917 are what I am looking at |
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Lone-Star |
Asad3ainJalout: think that thread is a bit out of date. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9917 has everything you need |
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Asad3ainJalout |
Lone-Star: thank you |
| 00:43 |
Lone-Star |
np |
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swift110 |
hey all |
| 01:02 |
Genshin |
o/ |
| 01:06 |
Asad3ainJalout |
howdy |
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Asad3ainJalout |
is there a log file to see why my server crashes? |
| 01:39 |
Lone-Star |
debug.txt |
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Asad3ainJalout |
my micky mouse server appears to be crashing whenever it has to load anything major |
| 02:02 |
Asad3ainJalout |
example, if i run a teleport command it crashes |
| 02:03 |
Asad3ainJalout |
is it possible to preload my world so that my micky mouse server can keep up |
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jas_ |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=292043#p292043 i just woke up too |
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jas_ |
oh cool got a bunch of deprecation notices (minetest.setting_*) when loading with debug version, that's helpful. |
| 04:01 |
jas_ |
bah! now i have to figure out how i crashed and i guess i should have run it with gdb (client i mean, which just crashed) |
| 04:03 |
jas_ |
!server dcbl |
| 04:03 |
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jas_: dcbl | dcbl.duckdns.org | Clients: 1/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.5.0-dev-debug / dcbl | Ping: 118ms |
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* jas_ |
wonders what to type once it's crashed within gdb |
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* jas_ |
bumbles around in gdb: https://gist.github.com/jastevenson303/28c0adbb222cb2bb8f2458df8188d85a |
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rdococ |
hi |
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jas_ |
hi |
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jas_ |
if anyone wants to watch me jump at the edge of nodes |
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jas_ |
(without, hopefully, crashing) https://twitch.tv/jastvn |
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rdococ |
heh |
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rdococ |
listen, kids, do not do what I am doing: do not compile minetest while watching twitch on a slow computer |
| 07:04 |
jas_ |
noope |
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redblade7 |
would streaming a video make that much of a difference? |
| 07:10 |
redblade7 |
it's the compiling that's slow |
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redblade7 |
that's why i use i7 cpus |
| 07:11 |
redblade7 |
although i dont compile much anymore on my home desktop since i switched it from slackware to xubuntu |
| 07:13 |
rdococ |
slackware? isn't windows a form of that? |
| 07:13 |
rdococ |
:P |
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frostsnow |
Set high nice value of compiling process |
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rdococ |
nice |
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redblade7 |
the vps i host my minetest servers on is slackware |
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redblade7 |
and i have an old dying computer in my house that runs boinc |
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redblade7 |
also slackware |
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redblade7 |
but slackware is annoying to get video playback to work with, making it not a good choice for desktops |
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redblade7 |
and on laptops, it's good to have quick updates via a package management system, not waste time and battery compiling software |
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rdococ |
hi jas_ |
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DS-minetest |
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jas_ |
!server dcbl |
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jas_ |
clients time out when trying to connect if i stream to twitch ^_^ |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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CalebDavis |
hi swift |
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swift110 |
hey CalebDavis how are you |
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erstazi |
Trying to build factories with pipeworks and technic. What is the most effective way to check if a chest is full? Currently continuing the pipes after the chests help however I am wondering if there is a more efficient and effective way to do so |
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Krock |
that's the most simple and reliable way I can think of. Even if you could detect the items, you wouldn't know how many there are and whether they fit into the chests |
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jas_ |
jumping feels good with #6380 |
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erstazi |
Krock: thanks. I was trying Caches however it is hard to delete them! |
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[git] Rui-Minetest -> minetest/minetest: Remove DSTACK keybind setting (#6378) 87c5a3f https://git.io/v5gMW (2017-09-05T18:00:36Z) |
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jas_ |
now playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPlhcpSZ8YI |
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Krock |
not playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc2u6AFImn8 |
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jas_ |
good one |
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jas_ |
https://i.imgur.com/PceOH5D.png |
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sofar |
https://imgur.com/a/JtTw8 surprise on my car this morning |
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Krock |
don't use that client |
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Krock |
^ jas_ |
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jas_ |
why not? lol |
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Krock |
destroys the fun |
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jas_ |
i got weechat in a terminal, but this relay client makes it very easy to look at a glance |
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jas_ |
so if there's no problem with it, i'll use it. i tried once to run it locally, but holy moly nodejs something something didn't work |
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Krock |
sofar, impressive that it spread so far away |
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sofar |
fire grew by several thousands of acres overnight |
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habeangur |
jas_: irssi is a good IRC cleint too |
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jas_ |
thanks habeangur, but i've always used weechat |
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habeangur |
client* |
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jas_ |
glowing bear is a weechat relay client |
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rdococ |
radioactive bear |
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habeangur |
:D |
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rdococ |
lol |
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sc3k |
is there any way i can access, compile, and test minetest 0.5? because the master branch on github is at 0.4.17 |
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jas_ |
it should read 0.5.0-dev |
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jas_ |
does for me anyway |
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sc3k |
i just compilied the master branch and it said 0.4.17... |
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jas_ |
but if you git pull git://github.com/minetest/minetest.git, you'll have 0.5.0 |
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sc3k |
maybe i git cloned wrong |
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jas_ |
i dunno why. maybe a setting, or maybe need to rm CMakeCache.txt or make clean or something |
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sc3k |
there we go. i just cloned the wrong branch |
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jas_ |
or that ^5 |
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sc3k |
that was why it said 0.4.17 |
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red-001 |
0.4.17-dev is the stable branch |
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Fixer_ |
master is 0.5.0-dev |
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habeangur |
when it will come out? |
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jas_ |
December at the earliest, I hear. |
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red-001 |
when it's finished |
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red-001 |
usually releases are every 6 months + 0 to 3 months delay |
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red-001 |
0.5 could take longer since all of the network protocol breaking changes are suppose to be in it |
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