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AlabamaHit |
Guys got a laptop running linux mint (latest) the software manager is runs 4.13 and not the latest. Is that PPA safe/ok to add to try to get latest version? I'm unix noob |
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AlabamaHit |
Hey bigfoot547 It is me BamaHit |
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AlabamaHit |
My old name is working now lol it didn't ask for password haha |
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kaeza |
AlabamaHit, the PPAs are official, so yes |
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AlabamaHit |
kaeza: thank you bro |
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kaeza |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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AlabamaHit |
I noticed on this laptopp cuase just intergrated graphics only gets 30ish fps. Actually better than I thought. But the drawtimes are in the 60s but on my desktop with the R9 380 i get 60fps but drawtimes are usually under 15. |
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kaeza |
AlabamaHit, which DE? Unity? |
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kaeza |
oh wait, no, Mint |
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AlabamaHit |
Mint (mate) |
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AlabamaHit |
on the desktop is windows 10 |
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kaeza |
also, what is the draw range? |
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AlabamaHit |
vrange? |
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kaeza |
I tend to hit ~45 FPS with integrated graphics and a range of ~200 |
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AlabamaHit |
on here only 100 |
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AlabamaHit |
It isn't a great laptop the 30s is actually better than i thought |
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kaeza |
using LXDE here, BTW |
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AlabamaHit |
I was actually reallly suprised of the really high drawtime on this laptop comapred to my desktop. |
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AlabamaHit |
Sweet got 4.16 now on here :D |
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jas_ |
so you can set 'Window Fullscreen' keybind in gnome.. nice. not on by default :O |
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kensatya |
hello I'm having trouble compiling minetest like this user https://pastebin.com/8W6M00aF |
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AntumDeluge |
kensatya, I'm not experienced with this, but from what I can make out, it looks like there is a linker error. Trouble linking to Json. |
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AntumDeluge |
Which OS are you compiling on? |
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AntumDeluge |
Do you have the Json development libraries installed? |
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jas_ |
!server |
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MinetestBot |
jas_: Joes Miniwelt | joesworld.zapto.org | Clients: 0/5, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 20ms |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: cavegen.cpp, chat.cpp: modernize code 90dfafc https://git.io/v7bRc (2017-08-16T06:26:04Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: client.cpp: modernize code 816bca3 https://git.io/v7b0b (2017-08-16T06:53:52Z) |
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ph3-der-loewe |
AntumDeluge: hm, yes. and you would like to avoid the logic and use the original logic? |
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jas_ |
how do the keys work? i don't see a recipe for the regular key, just the goal ingot -> skeleton key recipe |
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redblade7 |
yeah how do the skeleton keys work i always wondered |
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redblade7 |
never tried |
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jas_ |
is type="shapeless" out now? it's still listed in the examples |
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jas_ |
it's got this on_rightclick.def stuff, and i want to make a admin shop, so i wonder |
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jas_ |
can i add some def block and just use a key to toggle modes on this single node haha |
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jas_ |
but yeah, i missed out on whatever these keys are all about. think locked chests support them? |
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jas_ |
i dunno the difference between skeleton key (golden color, has craft recipe) and 'key' (silver color, no craft recipe) |
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redblade7 |
for shops i use this on one of my servers: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14872 |
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redblade7 |
NO |
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redblade7 |
not that |
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redblade7 |
another one |
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redblade7 |
let me find it |
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jas_ |
it's ok, i use this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14872 |
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jas_ |
but show me anyway cause now i'm curious :D |
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redblade7 |
https://github.com/ac-minetest/shop |
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redblade7 |
it is this one |
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redblade7 |
a fork mentioned on the thread i sent you |
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jas_ |
oh nice! haha i always meant to try it out |
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redblade7 |
if you want to take a look, it's on my server "the digital farms" |
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jas_ |
github.com/jastevenson303/shop can sell multiple items. ok on my way |
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redblade7 |
there is "Island marketplace" accessible in the travelnet at spawn |
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jas_ |
thx redblade7 |
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jas_ |
gn |
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redblade7 |
welcome |
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redblade7 |
nah i'll be here for a while |
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redblade7 |
just too tired to play minetest |
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jas_ |
oh okie doke |
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jas_ |
so yeah, still curious about type="shapeless" i must be doing it wrong. i see now there's some automatic shapeless, based on recipe? i'm just looking in lua_api.txt |
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jas_ |
but the (older?) type="shapeless" is still listed in the examples |
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jas_ |
i'm trying to get two gold ingots, in any position on craft grid, yield one skeleton key, but i'm having issues hehe |
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kensatya |
I'm compiling on CentOS 7 |
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kensatya |
before trying to compile I ran "sudo yum install jsoncpp-devel" |
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sfan5 |
and? |
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Fixer |
spam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=18306 |
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Raven262 |
I have seen a couple of those already over the last months.^ |
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Raven262 |
Not much to be done about them, is there? |
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lamazoni256 |
Hello is exi |
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lamazoni256 |
st a bundle of mod "out of the box" in order to have a richer environnement ? |
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Calinou |
lamazoni256: most mods that do such things have performance implications, beware |
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lamazoni256 |
calinou: for now I tried to add some mod like and I get black screen with no error in log ... |
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lamazoni256 |
calinou: like animals "https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/archive/2.5.0.zip" |
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Calinou |
lamazoni256: the animals modpack is pretty bad, I'd say |
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Calinou |
but that's just me |
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Calinou |
try https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_redo |
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lamazoni256 |
calinou: thk I will |
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jas_ |
hello |
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lamazoni256 |
calinou: too difficult ... any mod I try return a complicate error or black screen, I think I stick to my lower objective and maybe I will come back later on that if life allow me |
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lamazoni256 |
jas_: helle |
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lamazoni256 |
*helle |
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lamazoni256 |
*hello |
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Calinou |
lamazoni256: what Minetest version are you using? |
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Calinou |
can you read the error message? |
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lamazoni256 |
calinou: the last one I supposed ( I dl few days ago) |
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lamazoni256 |
calinou: complicatie lua stuf ... ModError: Failed to load and run script from /usr/share/games/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/biome_lib-master/init.lua |
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Calinou |
lamazoni256: you probably have to remove the "-master" from the mod folder's name |
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lamazoni256 |
calinou: I maybe u right I didn't really understood the folder structure requierement |
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BakerPrime |
Ok, stupid question, how would I go about fixing a server that throws this error: "ServerEnvironment::loadmeta(): EnvArgsEnd not found!". keep in mind, this is a local server, can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? |
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jas_ |
is it a corrupted env_meta.txt file? you could try moving it out of the worlddir just to see. |
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Calinou |
BakerPrime: the env_meta.txt file (inside the world folder) probably got corrupted |
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Calinou |
you could remove it, or replace its contents by something like https://hastebin.com/ebivokigor.txt |
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Calinou |
(it's one of my singleplayer worlds, without any mods installed) |
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BakerPrime |
so, I can copy another worlds folder in replacement of the corrupted one? so any other MT world folder would do? |
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BakerPrime |
there is nothing in the env_meta.txt file. |
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Calinou |
BakerPrime: yes, any other env_meta.txt file should do |
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Lymkwi_ |
Say.. I found weird stuff with the networking of Minetest.. may I ask why a client would send its protocol ID (0x4f457403) first in a packet? What is that packet? |
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ph3-der-loewe |
hm? |
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Lymkwi_ |
I'm not even sure I should ask here, maybe the folks in -dev know |
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Lymkwi_ |
I just know my client sends that as the first packet to the server |
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Lymkwi_ |
And some weird stuff happens if I replicate the packet and send it manually |
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Lymkwi_ |
Oh, actually, it seems every packet begins with that |
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Lymkwi_ |
Uh, that's interesting |
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Lymkwi_ |
Welp. I still don't know why my payload packet is locking player slots |
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Lymkwi_ |
I may have to report it though because that allows me lock any server anywhere and prevent anyone from joining just with a few bytes of data sent in loop. |
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Lymkwi_ |
s/me lock/me to lock; that's pretty scary stuff |
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jas_ |
Please by all means. And you were right about -dev. |
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Billre |
lol |
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* Billre |
begins formulating a diabolical plan to take over the world (Minetest) |
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jas_ |
!server dcbl |
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MinetestBot |
jas_: dcbl | dcbl.duckdns.org | Clients: 1/15, 1/4 | Version: 0.4.16-dev / dcbl | Ping: 120ms |
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sfan5 |
Lymkwi_: which packet are you manually sending? |
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Lymkwi_ |
Do you want the raw bytes? |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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Lymkwi_ |
Private message, or here? |
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sfan5 |
use /msg |
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jas_ |
best bow+arrow/throwing mod? |
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AntumDeluge |
jas_, I use PilzAdam's throwing mod: https://github.com/PilzAdam/throwing |
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AntumDeluge |
It has bow & arrow. Other mods can register other types of arrows as well. |
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AntumDeluge |
It comes with a regular arrow plus build, fire, dig, & teleport arrows. |
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AntumDeluge |
cornernote's deploy_nodes mod uses it as well: https://cornernote.github.io/minetest-deploy_nodes/ |
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Lymkwi_ |
Any clue on how I could determine the server's version of minetest from Lua? |
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AntumDeluge |
I believe there is a function command for it. |
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AntumDeluge |
Don't remember off the top of my head. |
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Lymkwi_ |
Cool, I've got the version |
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AntumDeluge |
It's 'minetest.get_version': https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/71b02d6/doc/lua_api.txt#L2222 |
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AntumDeluge |
Or, more specifically: "minetest.get_version().string" |
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AntumDeluge |
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jas_ |
thx AntumDeluge |
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AntumDeluge |
You're welcome. Hope it's what you are looking for. |
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jas_ |
i'm looking for something to gut and replace with a sole spear |
| 16:35 |
jas_ |
a tool, so only 1 per slot, and with wear so each throw does it damage |
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jas_ |
heh |
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jas_ |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18312 |
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jas_ |
got the default:key to work on the shop so it can sell infinite items. *goes off to make hot coffee.* |
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AntumDeluge |
Nice. I wanted a shop mod. Is this based on "simple shop"? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14872 |
| 16:40 |
jas_ |
yep, same one *smile* |
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AntumDeluge |
I love the idea. Isn't there another mod that has a "gold coin"? |
| 16:41 |
AntumDeluge |
Maybe your mod should override it (if it doesn't already). |
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AntumDeluge |
I'm adding this to my game ASAP. |
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Lymkwi_ |
There's a mod with coin items, if I remember correctly |
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Lymkwi_ |
Minercantile, I believe, uses moreores' coins |
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jas_ |
neat-o, let me know if something is the matter with it! ha. the golden goin is shop:coin and i'm not sure how it may conflict |
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jas_ |
i'll check it out, thanks |
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AntumDeluge |
homedecor has a coin (homedecor:coin). It can be used with the soda vending machine. |
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jas_ |
oh yea! that one is super cute |
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AntumDeluge |
The reason I ask is because I like to override similar items on my server. |
| 16:47 |
AntumDeluge |
I think I like the "M" coin better though. |
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jas_ |
for sure. i'll try to find similar coins, and do any overrides or unregisters, per a setting maybe |
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AntumDeluge |
Ya, that would be great jas_. |
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AntumDeluge |
Is the WTFPL liberal enough that I could change the license to CC0, DWYWPL, or MIT in forks? Or should the original code retain the license? |
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AntumDeluge |
I suppose an attribution an a note stating that the code was originally licensed under WTFPL would be enough. |
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Lymkwi_ |
Can anyone here help with a thingy? |
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Lymkwi_ |
I need someone to try to join MFF's classic server for a test |
| 17:16 |
Krock |
WTFPL is almost identical to CC0, but with the difference that it doesn't have a warranty disclaimer |
| 17:16 |
Krock |
change it to CC0 when you get the chance |
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sfan5 |
!server mff classic |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: No results |
| 17:19 |
Lymkwi_ |
!server MinetestForFun Survival |
| 17:19 |
MinetestBot |
Lymkwi_: MinetestForFun (Survival & PVP) [FR/EN] | 158.69.114.146:30001 | Clients: 0/25, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.15 / minetestforfun_game | Ping: 94ms |
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Lymkwi_ |
^ that one |
| 17:19 |
Lymkwi_ |
It's accessible, for now. I need to double check with someone else. |
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jas_ |
connecting.. media 0% |
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Lymkwi_ |
It's gonna take some time |
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Lymkwi_ |
But if you got in you don't have to fully connect, I just need you to get past the password part |
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jas_ |
i'll connect and then let me know when to test and i'll reconnect |
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Lymkwi_ |
You can disconnect right now, in fact. |
| 17:21 |
Lymkwi_ |
You can try and reconnect right after you're out |
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jas_ |
that's ok i couldn't beat the quiz anyhow haha |
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Lymkwi_ |
Can you get back in? |
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jas_ |
connecting |
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jas_ |
too many users |
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Lymkwi_ |
!server MinetestForFun Survival |
| 17:22 |
MinetestBot |
Lymkwi_: MinetestForFun (Survival & PVP) [FR/EN] | 158.69.114.146:30001 | Clients: 0/25, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.15 / minetestforfun_game | Ping: 94ms |
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Lymkwi_ |
There is nobody connected. |
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jas_ |
confirm |
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Lymkwi_ |
But my data beam is on it. |
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Lymkwi_ |
Alright, back to the issue then. |
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jas_ |
too many user |
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* Lymkwi_ |
turns off the data beam |
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AntumDeluge |
Thank you Krock. |
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Lymkwi_ |
Just wait twenty seconds or so and retry |
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Krock |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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jas_ |
ok all good now Lymkwi_ |
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Lymkwi_ |
Welp. My weapon of mass destruction works, sadly. |
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jas_ |
congrats? heh |
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* jas_ |
goes off to make caverealms:thin_ice slliipppeeerrrryyyyyyy |
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AntumDeluge |
I know Minetest has a way to limit how many users can be on your server. But, is there a way to manage new user registration? |
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Lymkwi_ |
The network exchange is a tad different, and yes there is a function to handle new players joining in, in the API |
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AntumDeluge |
I run a local server for my kids & they have friends whom I want to let play. But, I do not want just anybody to be able to connect to my server. I want to be able to manage the allowed users. |
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sfan5 |
pretty sure there's mods that implement whitelists |
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Lymkwi_ |
You should be able to do that with a firewall though |
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Lymkwi_ |
Oh yeah whitelists work too |
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AntumDeluge |
Ooh, whitelist mod sounds good. |
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AntumDeluge |
I'll search for that. |
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Lymkwi_ |
@sfan5 I'm about to send the issue on my.. discovery |
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AntumDeluge |
Thank you Lymkwi_ & sfan5 |
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AntumDeluge |
whitelist mod is perfect. |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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jas_ |
hiya |
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swift110 |
how are you jas_ |
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jas_ |
good, thanks. someone scared me on minetest it was funny, and i forgot i was recording a video. anyway how are you? |
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swift110 |
jas_, lol I am great |
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swift110 |
how long have you been playing minetest? |
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jas_ |
glad to hear |
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jas_ |
oh let me think, a few years anyway. maybe three |
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jas_ |
you? |
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swift110 |
nice jas_ I heard of minetest maybe a year or two ago |
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swift110 |
But my attention span makes it hard to get into it really |
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swift110 |
I have it on all of my machines though |
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swift110 |
Now if it was on Macosx I would likely play it a lot |
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swift110 |
lol |
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swift110 |
But that will never happen |
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swift110 |
I would need a nice android tablet for that |
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jas_ |
i found it in debian repo. didn't think much of it at first, or games like this in general (i used to play quake live 12+ hours a day) but now i can easilly spend all day digging blocks here HA |
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swift110 |
oh goodness |
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jas_ |
clunk, clunk, clunk. but actually the fun for me is the modding, and the networking. |
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jas_ |
now days, the movement is really sweet so in-game i love to run around and jump off stuff. it's a really fun game to get into, because i love first person, and it's not a shooter, and you can build and be creative inside the map. lovely right? |
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jas_ |
i'm wondering how these games will translate to VR someday but i haven't tried it myself. |
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swift110 |
jas_, I have seen a video of someone using minecraft in a 3d world. I would like to se that for minetest |
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jas_ |
i _believe_ minetest can do it too, or someone had a PR that may have been merged. i never tried any VR device before tho. looking forward to it, but who can replace a keyboard and a mouse? |
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jas_ |
i play minetest on android sometimes, and it's not so bad if you plug a keyboard and mouse into it, i figure. |
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jas_ |
but otherwise, on my phone at least, if i touch the arrow directionals and try to steer at the same time, for example, it will strafe me right because of the combination of touches. |
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swift110 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbg2PLkIaDY |
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swift110 |
something like this |
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jas_ |
mind boggling |
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swift110 |
I will be back |
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sofar |
MT has VR/stereoscopic support already for some platforms |
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jas_ |
thought so, thanks. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Cleanup various headers to reduce compilation times (#6255) 85511a6 https://git.io/v7ATL (2017-08-16T20:11:45Z) |
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Fixer |
lets test the benefit |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: ClientInterface: add a function to verify (correctly) if user limit w… 1d8d010 https://git.io/v7AZw (2017-08-16T21:48:29Z) |
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Billre |
swift110: you can install MT on a Mac. Go to minetest.net download page for particulars. Uses HomeBrew |
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swift110 |
hey Billre |
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swift110 |
Billre, I knew that already though |
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MinetestBot |
[git] numberZero -> minetest/minetest: New lighting curve (#5279) 9c8fec8 https://git.io/v7AWr (2017-08-16T22:23:20Z) |
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Fixer |
problem? |
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Kaiser |
Hello, what should I do if i have MS VC++ Redistributable error? |
