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BeBo46100 |
Octaican? |
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01:10 |
tumeninodes |
... and that was last anyone ever heard from poor octacian :( |
01:10 |
AntumDeluge |
lol |
01:10 |
octacian |
heh, I was AFK |
01:10 |
octacian |
BeBo46100: OK, I'm actually here. Yes? |
01:10 |
octacian |
Oh, hey tumeninodes! :D |
01:11 |
BeBo46100 |
Can i host my world without my IP? |
01:11 |
tumeninodes |
hey octacian |
01:12 |
octacian |
BeBo46100: Not really. Although you can get a sorta-domain name for free that points to your IP without having to actually give it out |
01:12 |
BeBo46100 |
where? |
01:12 |
octacian |
However, anyone with linux can then just type `host <youdomain>` to get your IP still |
01:13 |
octacian |
BeBo46100: noip.com is a good place to start. |
01:14 |
BeBo46100 |
how do i put my world out? currently it only shows Server port |
01:15 |
BeBo46100 |
then i'll go to noip.com |
01:16 |
octacian |
noip.com will allow you to set up your world without having to give people your IP |
01:22 |
tumeninodes |
heh, noip made me think of the movie ip man :P |
01:23 |
tumeninodes |
is that strange? |
01:23 |
tumeninodes |
yes it is |
01:23 |
tumeninodes |
shut up I wasnt talking to you |
01:25 |
BeBo46100 |
Octacian? |
01:25 |
octacian |
BeBo46100: Yes? |
01:25 |
BeBo46100 |
i made account now what? |
01:26 |
octacian |
Make sure it's set up and you can access your server through the new noip account |
01:27 |
BeBo46100 |
it gave me an ipv4 do i use that? |
01:27 |
octacian |
I think so... |
01:27 |
BeBo46100 |
where do i add my world? |
01:28 |
octacian |
BeBo46100: You don't add your world there. |
01:29 |
octacian |
NoIP is just to redirect to your server without you giving out your IP |
01:30 |
octacian |
You have to first set up the minetest server software on a local machine that you keep on all the time |
01:30 |
BeBo46100 |
sooo do i put the ip given as my Server Port? |
01:31 |
octacian |
OK, where'd you get this IP? |
01:31 |
BeBo46100 |
noip |
01:31 |
BeBo46100 |
well no nvm it says ip/target |
01:31 |
octacian |
Ah, I see |
01:32 |
octacian |
You have to get your IP address, and put it in there |
01:32 |
octacian |
Only NoIP will get to see that, no-one else (unless they type that one command in linux) |
01:32 |
BeBo46100 |
in where exactly? |
01:32 |
octacian |
Get your IP address by simply googling the term "What is my IP" |
01:33 |
octacian |
And put that IP address given in the IP/Target area |
01:33 |
octacian |
You know, if you're really worried about other people getting your IP, you might just have someone else host the server for you |
01:33 |
BeBo46100 |
i want someone to but all i get is no :( |
01:33 |
octacian |
I take it you just want a server for a few friends to access, correct? |
01:34 |
BeBo46100 |
yes with my buildings 7 mods |
01:34 |
BeBo46100 |
&* |
01:34 |
octacian |
So, probably no more than 5 people on at a time? |
01:34 |
BeBo46100 |
i'll allow only 6max |
01:34 |
octacian |
hmmm |
01:35 |
BeBo46100 |
all i want is my world public for a few friends |
01:35 |
octacian |
There's several people who could host such a server, however, most would charge around $5/month |
01:35 |
BeBo46100 |
pft i aint got money |
01:35 |
octacian |
Then you're pretty well stuck... :P |
01:35 |
BeBo46100 |
maybe you could host it :D |
01:36 |
tumeninodes |
sure... for $5 per mo |
01:36 |
BeBo46100 |
:/ |
01:36 |
octacian |
lol |
01:36 |
octacian |
I could, however, considering that you wouldn't be paying it wouldn't be on one of my better servers, one that has a slightly slow connection |
01:37 |
octacian |
And would be relatively limited in several ways (world size, max resources that can be used, etc...) |
01:37 |
BeBo46100 |
what do you mean? |
01:37 |
octacian |
By resources I mean max amount of RAM/HDD space |
01:37 |
BeBo46100 |
sooo can my server be hosted by someone? |
01:38 |
octacian |
You may be able to get someone to host it for free, at least temporarily, however, it most definitely wouldn't perform as well as a paid server |
01:38 |
octacian |
(building stuff, breaking blocks, using inventory, etc... might be slow) |
01:38 |
BeBo46100 |
can you host it :D |
01:39 |
octacian |
How big is the world? |
01:40 |
BeBo46100 |
i have 2 buildings |
01:40 |
octacian |
You know how to make a ZIP file? |
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01:41 |
BeBo46100 |
i've unzipped but not zipped |
01:41 |
BeBo46100 |
i right click the file then choose compress/zip? |
01:41 |
octacian |
Yes |
01:41 |
octacian |
So, find the world file, right-click, and ZIP it |
01:41 |
tumeninodes |
howdy wilkgr |
01:41 |
BeBo46100 |
what do you want me to zip? |
01:41 |
octacian |
The world folder. |
01:42 |
BeBo46100 |
i can still access my world then right? |
01:42 |
tumeninodes |
when you zip, it just makes a compressed copy of the original file, it's safe |
01:43 |
BeBo46100 |
Whats Next? |
01:43 |
wilkgr |
Hi tumeninodes :) |
01:44 |
octacian |
uhhh...Make the ZIP of the world directory |
01:44 |
octacian |
Or did you already? |
01:44 |
BeBo46100 |
not yet but how do i find the World Directory? |
01:45 |
octacian |
Lemme guess, Windows |
01:45 |
octacian |
? |
01:46 |
BeBo46100 |
yup |
01:46 |
tumeninodes |
afk |
01:46 |
octacian |
OK, go to the directory from which to launch Minetest |
01:47 |
octacian |
Rather than opening Minetest, go into the worlds folder from there |
01:47 |
octacian |
Then, right click on the world you want to be on a server, and ZIP it |
01:47 |
BeBo46100 |
im in worlds folder |
01:47 |
BeBo46100 |
ok |
01:47 |
BeBo46100 |
zip & Share? |
01:48 |
octacian |
Upload to some place like onedrive |
01:48 |
octacian |
And then share, followed by giving me the link |
01:48 |
octacian |
Then I'll see if I can host it |
01:48 |
BeBo46100 |
i have multiple zip options |
01:48 |
octacian |
Again, if I do, it may not be permanent. |
01:48 |
octacian |
OK? |
01:48 |
BeBo46100 |
ok |
01:49 |
BeBo46100 |
Poop |
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01:51 |
BeBo46100 |
missing or invalid file zip? |
01:51 |
octacian |
Wuh..? |
01:51 |
BeBo46100 |
nvm i fixed it |
01:52 |
BeBo46100 |
its zipped now what? |
01:54 |
BeBo46100 |
Octacian you still there? |
01:54 |
octacian |
Yup |
01:54 |
BeBo46100 |
what next? |
01:54 |
octacian |
OK, so, upload the ZIPed file to some file hosting service |
01:55 |
BeBo46100 |
ok |
01:55 |
BeBo46100 |
what hosting service? |
01:55 |
octacian |
In the end, what I want you to do, is "Share" the file online and give me a link |
01:55 |
octacian |
Whatever you want. |
01:55 |
octacian |
OneDrive, dropbox, box, mediafire, up to you |
01:55 |
BeBo46100 |
idk any service's |
01:55 |
BeBo46100 |
ok |
01:56 |
BeBo46100 |
micrsoft onedrive? |
01:58 |
BeBo46100 |
Hey I'll be right back |
01:58 |
octacian |
Sure |
01:58 |
BeBo46100 |
gotta go pray for dinner Brb |
02:00 |
BeBo46100 |
Back |
02:01 |
BeBo46100 |
sooo Upload the file to Microsoft onedrive right? |
02:02 |
octacian |
Yup |
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tumeninodes |
omg, this is turning into #BeBo46100test :P |
02:13 |
BeBo46100 |
XD |
02:13 |
BeBo46100 |
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=root&cid=DA35E0FB989B1B1E |
02:14 |
BeBo46100 |
Octacian here's the Link |
02:14 |
octacian |
tumeninodes: IKR :P |
02:14 |
octacian |
BeBo46100: OK, we'll see at this point. |
02:15 |
tumeninodes |
octacian: it's like watching some innocent victim walking past a spider trap |
02:15 |
octacian |
heh |
02:15 |
BeBo46100 |
tumen XD |
02:16 |
tumeninodes |
you are crazy-kind, friend..., I hope BeBo46100 is extra grateful and respectful for it |
02:16 |
octacian |
BeBo46100: There's nothing there |
02:16 |
BeBo46100 |
there should be because the zip was there |
02:17 |
octacian |
heh, We'll still see if I actually host it. If I do, I'll limit world size and it will likely only be temporary, but we'll see |
02:17 |
octacian |
BeBo46100: Nope, not there |
02:17 |
BeBo46100 |
gimme sec |
02:17 |
BeBo46100 |
Walk me through Please XD |
02:18 |
octacian |
OK, take the ZIP file that you made, and upload it to onedrive |
02:19 |
octacian |
From the onedrive website, locate the file and find a "Share" button attached to it |
02:19 |
octacian |
Wait |
02:19 |
octacian |
Locate the file, and click the check in the upper right corner |
02:19 |
octacian |
Near the top left of the page, click "Share" |
02:19 |
octacian |
Copy the provided URL and paste here |
02:20 |
tumeninodes |
I'm headin' out. see ya the morrow octacian... (you'll prob still be here :D ) |
02:20 |
octacian |
'K, cya! :D |
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02:21 |
BeBo46100 |
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=DA35E0FB989B1B1E%21104&cid=DA35E0FB989B1B1E |
02:21 |
BeBo46100 |
Check now |
02:22 |
octacian |
Nope, doesn't exist :P |
02:22 |
BeBo46100 |
want my login info? |
02:23 |
BeBo46100 |
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ah4bm5j74DXaakOVzRYwQPa18Es |
02:24 |
octacian |
heh, I suppose that's an option |
02:24 |
BeBo46100 |
tif its still not there then onedrive Ate it XD |
02:24 |
octacian |
Although..it'd have been better had you sent it via PM :P |
02:24 |
octacian |
Found it |
02:24 |
BeBo46100 |
finally XD |
02:24 |
octacian |
OK, good that worked fine |
02:24 |
octacian |
Now, what mods did you want? |
02:24 |
BeBo46100 |
now what XD |
02:25 |
BeBo46100 |
uhhh |
02:25 |
BeBo46100 |
are my mods not there? |
02:25 |
octacian |
No, you have to list the mods separately |
02:25 |
octacian |
Or, wait |
02:25 |
octacian |
ZIP the `mods` folder inside the Minetest directory and upload that to OneDrive as well |
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02:27 |
BeBo46100 |
zipping Rn |
02:27 |
wilkgr |
Wouldn't it have been easier to use the share button? |
02:27 |
wilkgr |
It always works for me :/ |
02:27 |
octacian |
Probably lol |
02:27 |
wilkgr |
(share folder) |
02:27 |
octacian |
I'm not too familiar with Windows ATM |
02:33 |
BeBo46100 |
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=root&cid=DA35E0FB989B1B1E |
02:33 |
BeBo46100 |
here |
02:35 |
octacian |
OK, checking |
02:36 |
octacian |
BeBo46100: Use the login info method, above link isn't working |
02:37 |
BeBo46100 |
PWD AllforHim8 Email BeBo47100gmail.com |
02:38 |
octacian |
OK..rly should've sent that in PM |
02:38 |
octacian |
Change your password in a minute :rofl: |
02:38 |
BeBo46100 |
its fine i dont use onedrive |
02:38 |
octacian |
I see |
02:38 |
kaeza |
... |
02:38 |
octacian |
Still though... |
02:38 |
octacian |
lol |
02:38 |
BeBo46100 |
i know its not wise to put info public |
02:39 |
BeBo46100 |
but i dont use onedrive |
02:39 |
BeBo46100 |
plus i cant find your name in irc lsit |
02:39 |
BeBo46100 |
List* |
02:39 |
octacian |
And by login info method, I meant link related to this one: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ah4bm5j74DXaakOVzRYwQPa18Es |
02:39 |
octacian |
heh, Oh well |
02:40 |
BeBo46100 |
still works tho XD |
02:43 |
BeBo46100 |
Octacian Did It Work? |
02:43 |
octacian |
Yup |
02:43 |
octacian |
You have HUDPlus and HUDLib? O_o |
02:44 |
octacian |
heh, so more than just 1 person other than me uses it |
02:44 |
BeBo46100 |
nope XD |
02:45 |
octacian |
You do have it, or you don't? |
02:45 |
octacian |
Like, just in general |
02:45 |
BeBo46100 |
i dont think i have it no |
02:46 |
octacian |
OK, so biome lib, church, cme, ethereal, evenmoreblocks, homedecor, hud hunger, mesecons, unifieddyes, weather, moreblocks, moretrees, plantlife, quartz, unified inventory, and xdecor? |
02:46 |
BeBo46100 |
yup |
02:46 |
octacian |
hmm, it showed up as if you did at one point anyways |
02:46 |
octacian |
'K |
02:46 |
BeBo46100 |
you can join my world too :D |
02:53 |
octacian |
BeBo46100: You want creative? |
02:53 |
BeBo46100 |
let me know when you've made it public |
02:53 |
BeBo46100 |
yes |
02:54 |
BeBo46100 |
no survival |
02:54 |
BeBo46100 |
otherwise my beloved hosue is gone XD |
02:54 |
BeBo46100 |
House* |
02:54 |
BeBo46100 |
just creative & The Mods |
02:55 |
octacian |
OK, I don't think I'll set the server to announce |
02:55 |
octacian |
Otherwise you might get too many people joining so that you couldn't join yourself |
02:56 |
octacian |
Or do you want the server to show in the serverlist? |
02:56 |
BeBo46100 |
make it just you me & Few People |
02:56 |
octacian |
You can always type the IP and port manually - it prevents people from finding it that you don't want to |
02:56 |
octacian |
Sounds good |
02:57 |
BeBo46100 |
you me Lone_wolf & ElMehdiben |
02:57 |
octacian |
heh, IK both of those people |
02:58 |
octacian |
You want me to add spawnpoint mod? |
02:58 |
BeBo46100 |
you know? |
02:58 |
octacian |
It's pretty useful |
02:58 |
BeBo46100 |
for second i thought you said you didnt know them XD |
02:58 |
BeBo46100 |
i was like :/ |
02:58 |
octacian |
OK, two more things to do |
02:58 |
BeBo46100 |
:D |
02:59 |
octacian |
What username will you play under? |
02:59 |
BeBo46100 |
My Name in game? |
02:59 |
octacian |
Yes |
02:59 |
BeBo46100 |
Star_light85 Cuase its my Youtube Name |
03:00 |
BeBo46100 |
Cause* |
03:01 |
octacian |
BeBo46100: Just sent you a PM, check it |
03:02 |
BeBo46100 |
i'll test it right now |
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05:02 |
redblade7 |
hi VanessaE , you there? |
05:02 |
VanessaE |
hi |
05:02 |
redblade7 |
hey listen |
05:03 |
redblade7 |
on one of my servers (creative gardens), i am using older versions of your mods dependent on pre-param2 versions of unifieddyes |
05:03 |
redblade7 |
namely because i dont want to cause chaos on a server over a year old with coloredwood |
05:03 |
redblade7 |
it wasn't an issue on my other two servers because they were only a few months old |
05:03 |
redblade7 |
but anyway |
05:03 |
VanessaE |
there are LBMs in place to convert the old format to the new format. |
05:04 |
redblade7 |
i am using the older homedecor_modpack |
05:04 |
redblade7 |
pre-param2 |
05:04 |
redblade7 |
so you can use pre-param2 dyes which dont crash beds |
05:04 |
redblade7 |
but |
05:04 |
VanessaE |
no. |
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redblade7 |
upgrading to 0.4.16 still gave me the plasma blocks problem |
05:05 |
VanessaE |
that's a minetest_game bug. |
05:05 |
VanessaE |
the plasma blocks have been fixed. |
05:05 |
redblade7 |
right |
05:05 |
redblade7 |
you told me |
05:05 |
redblade7 |
but i'm using the older homedecor so as not to be affected by that |
05:05 |
redblade7 |
but |
05:05 |
GreenDimond |
I don't suppose Napiophelios is on right now... |
05:05 |
redblade7 |
is there any way to have the plasma blocks problem without breaking things/ |
05:06 |
redblade7 |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_modpack/commit/bd70955a9b0cc082400db11d1431bce6bbfd0aab |
05:06 |
redblade7 |
like if i was to make those changes |
05:06 |
VanessaE |
redblade7: try cherry-picking that commit and apply it to your 0.4.15 homedecor. |
05:06 |
redblade7 |
and create that obj file |
05:06 |
VanessaE |
but no guarantees if it'll work |
05:06 |
redblade7 |
ok |
05:06 |
VanessaE |
just `git checkout 0.4.15; git cherry-pick <that commit id>` and see if it works. |
05:07 |
GreenDimond |
it appears someone is going around reporting posts that dont need to be reported, and I blame Napiophelios. But I have no way of knowing >:/ |
05:07 |
redblade7 |
you mean this? https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_modpack/releases/tag/0.4.15 |
05:07 |
GreenDimond |
I guess he claims they are "off-topic" but the ones getting deleted arent TOO off-topic and the owners of the thread are fine with the posts and such. |
05:08 |
redblade7 |
i dont think i'm using something that recent |
05:08 |
VanessaE |
yes, redblade7. |
05:09 |
redblade7 |
does that require a param2 unifieddyes? |
05:09 |
redblade7 |
because what of your mods i have on that server, i havent updated unifieddyes or any of your mods dependent on it |
05:09 |
redblade7 |
i guess i can try |
05:10 |
redblade7 |
i just dont want to have a situation where i can't downgrade, like i did with coloredwood on my digital farms server |
05:10 |
redblade7 |
fortunately i backed up my server today so i can try using that |
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redblade7 |
sometime i have to learn how to make minetest mods so i can fork it. every time i update homedecor i re-edit bathroom_sanitation and kitchen_furniture to allow the ancient behavior of dispensing water regardless of what's under it |
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redblade7 |
first let me see how the 0.4.15 branch works on my server |
05:23 |
redblade7 |
then i will try playing with it |
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redblade7 |
ok i'll do the cherry-pick |
05:35 |
redblade7 |
never heard of it |
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redblade7 |
wait...git checkout 0.4.15 |
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05:36 |
redblade7 |
i did the tarball |
05:37 |
redblade7 |
no |
05:37 |
redblade7 |
i dont have a .git folder in homedecor_modpack |
05:37 |
redblade7 |
i'll have to do this myself |
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redblade7 |
homedecor_generic_plastic.png used to be homedecor_generic_plastic_black.png |
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redblade7 |
wtf |
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redblade7 |
hexchat randomly closed |
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redblade7 |
windows sucks |
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redblade7 |
homedecor-0.4.15 under 0.4.16 has a correctly colored plasma ball base. i'm wondering if i should just leave that alone. |
05:46 |
VanessaE |
leave it alone. |
05:46 |
VanessaE |
that was a bug introduced with hardware coloring that I later fixed. |
05:55 |
redblade7 |
ok let's see |
06:07 |
redblade7 |
looks great! |
06:07 |
redblade7 |
i only made this change: https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_modpack/commit/bd70955a9b0cc082400db11d1431bce6bbfd0aab#diff-adc917287248f285b31c65166224547b |
06:08 |
redblade7 |
sorry |
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redblade7 |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_modpack/commit/bd70955a9b0cc082400db11d1431bce6bbfd0aab |
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redblade7 |
you should do that to the 0.4.15 branch |
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VanessaE |
no, the 0.4.15 tag is fixed in place |
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redblade7 |
oh |
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VanessaE |
and I don't support old versions anyway |
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redblade7 |
well i still got stuff to do tonight so thank you |
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I played a bit with the intllib mod, works very well for translations, I made some new integration in some mods, I was wondering if dev would accept intllib integration in mods from minetest_game base (because in my opinion, these mods must be translated) |
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sigz: I would guess probably not, but you can ask in #minetest-dev |
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Hijiri |
or even open a PR if you already have the code anyway |
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Hijiri |
if not you could open an issue |
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sigz |
hmm |
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sigz |
ok |
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[git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest: Fix arm inertia limit case 48cd217 https://git.io/vQZBo (2017-06-27T09:26:37Z) |
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[git] adrido -> minetest/minetest: Fix msvc annoyances (#5963) d7343b6 https://git.io/vQZzH (2017-06-27T09:54:40Z) |
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IhrFussel |
does the "not" condition in Lua fire in both cases? (false/nil) |
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IhrFussel |
Oops wrong channel |
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[git] nybble41 -> minetest/minetest: Fix for empty key/value when reading item string with wear but no met… 85d7b18 https://git.io/vQZwW (2017-06-27T10:34:11Z) |
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Thekiller916 |
hi everyone |
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red-001 |
hi |
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red-001 |
hi ThomasMonroe |
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ThomasMonroe |
hi red |
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Nox[Matrix] |
H E Y E V E R Y O N E |
11:41 |
ThomasMonroe |
hi Nox |
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Nox[Matrix] |
Geets |
11:44 |
Nox[Matrix] |
using ipfs for minetest could be cool |
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* red-001 |
reloads Nox |
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* Nox[Matrix] |
Drops due the reloading process |
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Nox[Matrix] |
x-x |
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Nox[Matrix] |
(Please wait.... 3%) |
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red-001 |
at least I didn't revolve you |
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Calinou |
Nox[Matrix]: that isn't exactly realtime-friendly |
11:46 |
Nox[Matrix] |
(Please wait.... 7%) |
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Nox[Matrix] |
(Please wait.... 20%) |
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Nox[Matrix] |
(Please wait.... 35%) |
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Nox[Matrix] |
(Please wait.... 60%) |
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red-001 |
crtl^c |
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Nox[Matrix] |
(Terminating.....) |
11:48 |
* red-001 |
is glad it's not vim |
11:48 |
* Nox[Matrix] |
returns 0 |
11:49 |
red-001 |
./skynet |
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Nox[Matrix] |
No such file or directory |
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red-001 |
flash_eraseall /dev/mtd |
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PureTryOut[m] |
What the hell are you guys doing lol |
11:51 |
Nox[Matrix] |
flash_eraseall: command not found |
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* Nox[Matrix] |
sent a long message: Nox[Matrix]_2017-06-27_11:53:39.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/uSIfndOYKbwHYxofDydiuvAO> |
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Nox[Matrix] |
logging out red-001 |
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[k00l]shamoanjac |
Hello #minetest |
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Nox[Matrix] |
cout<<"Hello [k00l]shamoanjac (IRC) " ; |
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hello #minetest |
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koolkid |
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12:48 [@MinetestBot ] [ DMackey ] [ grumble ] [ lumidify ] [ Ritchie ] [ TC01 ] |
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[k00l]shamoanjac |
ok so |
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koolkid |
12:48 [ [k00l]shamoanjac] [ downtime ] [ Guest34186 ] [ Lunatrius ] [ Robby ] [ TC02 ] |
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[k00l]shamoanjac |
I'd like to talk about our organization |
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it's called |
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koolkid |
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[k00l]shamoanjac |
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koolkid |
12:48 [ ^v ] [ dvere_ ] [ habeangu1 ] [ M6HZ ] [ rubenwardy ] [ thatgraemeguy ] |
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[k00l]shamoanjac |
we fight the botnet |
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koolkid |
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[k00l]shamoanjac |
find us at koolkidsklub.tech |
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[k00l]shamoanjac |
we liberate the world from the botnet |
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[k00l]shamoanjac |
pls donate |
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arcade_droid |
:) |
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koolkid |
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[k00l]shamoanjac |
bitcoins |
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rom1504 |
thx |
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Nox[Matrix] |
MatrixTraveler +1 |
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arcade_droid |
Thanks |
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rom1504 |
can I freehl too |
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[k00l]shamoanjac |
to koolkidsklub.tech |
12:00 |
red-001 |
hey |
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red-001 |
someone got k-line |
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red-001 |
/ignore *!*@*.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl |
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* Calinou |
shrugs |
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red-001 |
huh I had no idea calcul0n was an op here |
12:03 |
ruskie |
those are best ops - ones you don't know exist |
12:06 |
lumidify |
Posting what I accidentally posted on #minetest-hub: |
12:06 |
lumidify |
Hmm, about my message yesterday about MT always aborting on OpenBSD - in GDB it mentions something with "No such file or directory", so I'm wondering if it's somehow related to this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/965 |
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lumidify |
My problem seems to be related to that issue, but that issue was fixed, so I'm not sure what's wrong... |
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lumidify |
GDB only gives me this: https://pastebin.com/fAaBfn0v |
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Fuchs |
yes, oddly enough spam tends to lead to k-lines :p |
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red-001 |
bt |
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red-001 |
surely there is some sort of backtrace |
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lumidify |
Nope, it just crashes right away and even with debugging symbols only gives me that tiny thing :( |
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lumidify |
0.4.15 works fine, but 0.4.16 and 0.4.16-dev both have this weird problem |
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lumidify |
I recompiled but there's still only that little message (other than the usual stuff): https://pastebin.com/6B4pFRj9 |
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red-001 |
why havn't you run bt or bt full? |
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* lumidify |
has no idea about gdb :P |
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lumidify |
Sorry |
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* lumidify |
shall do that |
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lumidify |
This is with bt: https://pastebin.com/Wy3eB6tn |
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lumidify |
Something with threading... no idea what though |
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sfan5 |
spam-highlighting the whole nick list including freenode staff has to be another level of dumb |
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Out`Of`Control |
KKK group |
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Out`Of`Control |
wtf |
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lumidify |
\whois Out`Of`Control |
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lumidify |
Whoops, just checking random people, sorry :P |
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Out`Of`Control |
lumidify: next time use status tab |
12:52 |
lumidify |
checking meaning I'm just curious about everyone |
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lumidify |
Doing /whois is something I do when I'm bored :( |
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lumidify |
Oh well, I guess for now I'll just keep around a linux laptop for MT as long as the new versions don't work on OpenBSD. |
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IhrFussel |
Guys is math.random() in Lua not a good way to generate random numbers? I have an event on my server and it seems to fire a lot at 30% chance...is that just bad luck? |
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* ndjdjksisksk |
just tried to join a server on FreeBSD and got an error involving mutex.cpp |
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ndjdjksisksk |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6065 |
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red-001 |
lumidify, the issue happens when you try to start a singleplayer game right? |
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red-001 |
not when starting the main menu |
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sfan5 |
lumidify: my guess is that there is some openbsd specific bug/race condition in the threading code |
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red-001 |
I think this is an example of why the size of posts should be limited https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=17978&p=280066 |
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sfan5 |
red-001: no, that's a prime example of why shitposters should be banne |
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sfan5 |
d |
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red-001: sorry, I was afk - if I compile without -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug, it aborts immediately, if I compile it with that, it aborts as soon as I try to start a game or join a server. |
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sfan5: were any major changes done to threading between 0.4.15 and 0.4.16 though? 0.4.15 works for me on OpenBSD if I compile it (the version in the repositories is still 0.4.14). |
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sfan5 |
pthread wrappers were removed |
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sfan5 |
now only C++11 threads are used |
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sfan5 |
or was that after 0.4.16? |
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sfan5 |
wait nvm that was afterwards |
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sfan5 |
no idea |
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Yeah, I think I'll just keep around another OS for Minetest :) |
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How do I have to understand this parameter in the ore definition "clust_scarcity = 17*17*17," ? |
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cx384 |
IhrFussel, I think clust_scarcity tells you how large is the distance between ores. clust_scarcity = 17*17*17 means that one ore is generated every 4913 nodes. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4387 |
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IhrFussel |
cx384, what? That can't be I just found several of the same ore inside the exact same cave ... or you mean every 4913th ore will be that one? |
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ThomasMonroe |
you also have to look at how many ores are in the cluster |
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IhrFussel |
ThomasMonroe, I found multiple spots with the same ore..they weren't in the same cluster AFAIK |
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cx384 |
It will be that one? |
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IhrFussel |
"that one" = the ore I register |
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ThomasMonroe |
hmm |
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cx384 |
then yes |
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IhrFussel |
A player actually found more of the 17*17*17 ores in the cave than 11*11*11 ores...so is that just bad luck? |
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ThomasMonroe |
ok i think ik what happened |
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ThomasMonroe |
17x17x17 is the box in which the cluster sits |
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cx384 |
do you consider clust_num_ores ? |
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ThomasMonroe |
a smaller box means the closer the clusters |
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cx384 |
yes |
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ThomasMonroe |
also the clusters dont sit directly in the middle of the box, they can be anywhere in the box |
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ThomasMonroe |
so it wont be always 17*2 nodes away |
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ThomasMonroe |
to the next cluster |
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IhrFussel |
But the player found ~ 50 17*17*17 ores and only ~ 20 11*11*11 ... that doesn't seem right |
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IhrFussel |
clust_num_ores = 3, clust_size = 3, |
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ThomasMonroe |
in a cave though, the cave may have intersected more of the 17x17x17 clusters than the 11x11x11 |
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cx384 |
The minetest api tells us "This value should be *MUCH* higher than your intuition might tell you!". |
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IhrFussel |
That's very helpful..not |
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IhrFussel |
I checked other ore definitions...mithril has 11*11*11 so I thought 17*17*17 should mean "barely generated" but guess I was wrong...I increased it to 19*19*19 now |
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cx384 |
for mese blocks it is 36 * 36 * 36 |
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ThomasMonroe |
for my exotic ores mod i have many of my ores generating at higher than 20x20x20 |
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red-001 |
!seen DabbetulArz |
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MinetestBot |
red-001: Sorry, I haven't seen dabbetularz around. |
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red-001 |
¬seen DabbetulArz |
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red-001 |
~seen DabbetulArz |
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ShadowBot |
red-001: I haven't seen DabbetulArz in #minetest. |
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ThomasMonroe |
how do you create a pull request for MTG? |
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red-001 |
you need to fork the repo first |
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ThomasMonroe |
ahh ok, i'll try that |
16:57 |
red-001 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game#fork-destination-box |
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ThomasMonroe |
i had the crazy stupid idea of adding more ores, but it changed into new uses for tin |
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ThomasMonroe |
other than just making bronze and tools that werent valuable |
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red-001 |
fork the repo |
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red-001 |
create a branch in your copy |
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red-001 |
and make your changes |
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red-001 |
http://dev.minetest.net/Git |
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DS-minetest |
click on the fork button, clone the minetest repo (not your fork) to your games folder, rename the new folder, open there the terminal again, $git checkout -b <branchname>, add commits, $git push <forkaddress> <branchname>. that would be my way |
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ThomasMonroe |
thanks red-001 i made my pull request |
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VanessaE |
DS-minetest: actually, he should clone his fork, not the minetest repo. |
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ThomasMonroe |
right VE |
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ThomasMonroe |
thats what i did, er figured out to do |
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VanessaE |
otherwise default would be to try (and fail) to push to upstream |
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ThomasMonroe |
because i dont have write acess |
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ThomasMonroe |
correct? |
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VanessaE |
yep |
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DS-minetest |
my way isn't the best one but it works for me |
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ThomasMonroe |
np Ds |
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ThomasMonroe |
i gtg eat brb in a couple of hours |
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red-001 |
test |
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DS-minetest |
another test |
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Raven262 |
And one test more. |
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antims |
Any tips on finding lava in a v7-mapgen MTG map? (Without clip or creative mode or anything.) |
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antims |
Lava used to be just everywhere in some of the earlier mapgens. (Like, somewhere between a third and half of underground caverns had lava.) Now, it seems pretty difficult to find. |
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antims |
(I'm guessing it's not uncommon to "get lucky" and see lava everywhere when you're not looking for it, but that's not been the case for me.) |
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antims |
I've done a good amount of digging down to roughly -1300, and explored a couple-dozen caverns well below the -273 (nice reference, by the way) threshold. |
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Krock |
uhm.. dig straight down? |
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Krock |
the lava lakes will occur more often in the depths |
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antims |
Ah. 'k. So it's not just that they don't occurr above -273 and below -273 they're "common" (whatever that means). They do get more common as you dig down well below -273? |
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Krock |
well sure, there's a limit for the generation near the surface |
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Krock |
but I'm not sure how deep this limit is |
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antims |
Ok. I guess I'll keep going down, then. That helps. Thanks. :) |
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Krock |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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antims |
Oh. According to the wiki, it's -273 (-32 for the v6 mapgen, -273 for all others.) |
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antims |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Lava |
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rdococ |
Minæ Testæ! |
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jcalve |
sometimes I find some of my crops are gone, do they die after a while or do farm animal mobs eat them? |
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calcul0n |
jcalve, some mobs eat them yes |
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jcalve |
ok thanks -_- |
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calcul0n |
small pesky bugs :) |
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KaadmY |
Any idea why this is happening now? https://pastebin.com/y9BJ4JH0 |
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KaadmY |
I don't remember than happening in 0.4.15, and the error is calling `next` (which I assume is a Lua call for iterating tables), which I don't use anywhere |
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KaadmY |
Hm |
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KaadmY |
Also the data from get_list and the data passed to set_list are the same (except one containing an ItemStack and the other is an item table) |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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ThomasMonroe |
hey |
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ThomasMonroe |
well i gtg play for the afternoon cya tonight |
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red-001 |
~seen tumeninodes |
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ShadowBot |
red-001: I saw tumeninodes in #minetest 19 hours, 27 minutes, and 10 seconds ago saying "I'm headin' out. see ya the morrow octacian... (you'll prob still be here :D )" |
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swift110 |
ok |
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tumeninodes |
red-001: you rang? |
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red-001 |
not really |
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tumeninodes |
okie dokie |
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red-001 |
I was just checking did I not notice you or where you just not on today |
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tumeninodes |
I think I only logged in once today for a few but got called away, then logged off |
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tumeninodes |
bigfoot: howwwdy ho |
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Ruslan1 |
Hello hello |
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tumeninodes |
Hi |
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Ruslan1 |
Do you have server |
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Nox[Matrix] |
Ruslan1: I have boneless pizza |
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tumeninodes |
Me? no I'm not into sadomasochism |
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tumeninodes |
boneless pizza? |
22:31 |
Ruslan1 |
Some server is not working for me |
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AntumDeluge |
I've noticed that the mod 'pipeworks' has a boolean setting 'liquid_finite'. This setting doesn't seem to be documented anywhere. Does anyone know if this setting is related to Minetest itself, or is it specific to 'pipeworks'? Perhaps this is a deprecated setting? |
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Ruslan1 |
Ok |
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tumeninodes |
sorry Ruslan1. you're looking for help with a server? |
22:34 |
Ruslan1 |
Why pizza server is not working for me |
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tumeninodes |
no idea |
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tumeninodes |
could be a number of reasons. Best to try to contact the server admin |
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Ruslan1 |
How |
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Ruslan1 |
tumeninodes how |
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tumeninodes |
I have no idea who runs that server |
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Ruslan1 |
Can you try |
22:40 |
tumeninodes |
try what? |
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Ruslan1 |
Pizza server |
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Ruslan1 |
It working |
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tumeninodes |
you're all set now then? |
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Ruslan1 |
Did you fix it |
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tumeninodes |
dude, I can't fix it, I don;t own nor run it |
22:43 |
tumeninodes |
sometimes you just need to wait a bit then try again... it's magic |
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Ruslan1 |
I'll try it works for me |
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tumeninodes |
AntumDeluge: I think that is deprecated. Not positive though |
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Ruslan1 |
Pizza server is not working for me |
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AntumDeluge |
Thank you for the response tumeninodes. I noticed that of all the mods I have installed, only 'pipeworks' uses it. |
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Ruslan1 |
Hey hello |
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tumeninodes |
it does not impact it loading though correct? |
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Ruslan1 |
hello hello |
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AntumDeluge |
Nope. Works fine. |
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tumeninodes |
Ruslan1: I wish I could help you but, I am not an expert with servers. I will repeat though, this could be for numerous reasons. |
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AntumDeluge |
The reason I ask is because I'm trying to put all available mod settings for my server into a 'settingtypes.txt' file. Just couldn't find any information on 'liquid_finite'. |
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Ruslan1 |
AntumDeluge can I join your server |
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tumeninodes |
AntumDeluge: oh, ok... well looks like you can just skip liquid_finite then :P |
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AntumDeluge |
Sorry Ruslan1, it's not public. I just run it for my kids. |
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Ruslan1 |
Ok |
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tumeninodes |
I "think" liquid finite was prior to the current water code / settings |
22:56 |
tumeninodes |
Ruslan1: have you tried to log into any other servers? Or do you only use Pizza server? |
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tumeninodes |
try another. maybe pizza server is at it's max for players, or down for some service, or who knows |
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AntumDeluge |
Ah, okay. So new water code has taken care of what 'liquid_finite' was meant to accomplish. From what I could find, it looks like it was by mods to prevent griefing. |
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Ruslan1 |
It not working for me |
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AntumDeluge |
Ruslan1, are you talking about the server called "FREE PIZZA SERVER"? I just tried it & it works for me. |
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tumeninodes |
so you could either simply leave the code in pipeworks as is, or strip it out, or comment it out. I would just leave it |
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AntumDeluge |
I'll leave it for now as it would might affect 'pipeworks'. But I will notify that the dev that it is probably not needed anymore. |
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Ruslan1 |
FREE PIZZA SERVER is not working for android |
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tumeninodes |
ok : ) |
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AntumDeluge |
Oh, Ruslan1, what happens when you try to connect on Android? |
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Ruslan1 |
It was errors |
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AntumDeluge |
Does the client act like it is connecting, then crashes? |
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Ruslan1 |
Yeah |
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tumeninodes |
afk |
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AntumDeluge |
Do you know how much RAM your Android device has? The Minetest client has some issues with RAM, I would expect even more so with heavy server that might require more. |
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AntumDeluge |
Ruslan1, did you see my message? |
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AntumDeluge |
"Do you know how much RAM your Android device has? The Minetest client has some issues with RAM, I would expect even more so with heavy server that might require more." |
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Ruslan1 |
Where |
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AntumDeluge |
The Minetest client for Android has some issues with RAM. |
23:06 |
AntumDeluge |
It can be especially hard to connect to servers if your Android device has then 2GB of RAM. |
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Ruslan1 |
How to find it |
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AntumDeluge |
It looks like the pizza server may be especially heavy, so maybe even a device with 2GB might have trouble connecting. |
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AntumDeluge |
Hang on, I'll try to remember how to find the RAM. What device are you using? |
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Ruslan1 |
Hold on I need find settings |
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AntumDeluge |
Ya, in settings menu, go to 'Memory'. It should tell you 'Total memory'. |
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AntumDeluge |
Should look something like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/i0eZUt1HMTY/maxresdefault.jpg |
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kaeza |
!server pizza |
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MinetestBot |
kaeza: FREE PIZZA SERVER!! | 24.208.202.9 | Clients: 5/32, 3/5 | Version: 0.4.15 / minetest | Ping: 121ms |
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kaeza |
it seems to be up |
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kaeza |
:P |
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kaeza |
<3 MinetestBot |
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MinetestBot |
<3 kaeza |
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