Time Nick Message 01:01 BeBo46100 Octaican? 01:10 tumeninodes ... and that was last anyone ever heard from poor octacian :( 01:10 AntumDeluge lol 01:10 octacian heh, I was AFK 01:10 octacian BeBo46100: OK, I'm actually here. Yes? 01:10 octacian Oh, hey tumeninodes! :D 01:11 BeBo46100 Can i host my world without my IP? 01:11 tumeninodes hey octacian 01:12 octacian BeBo46100: Not really. Although you can get a sorta-domain name for free that points to your IP without having to actually give it out 01:12 BeBo46100 where? 01:12 octacian However, anyone with linux can then just type `host ` to get your IP still 01:13 octacian BeBo46100: noip.com is a good place to start. 01:14 BeBo46100 how do i put my world out? currently it only shows Server port 01:15 BeBo46100 then i'll go to noip.com 01:16 octacian noip.com will allow you to set up your world without having to give people your IP 01:22 tumeninodes heh, noip made me think of the movie ip man :P 01:23 tumeninodes is that strange? 01:23 tumeninodes yes it is 01:23 tumeninodes shut up I wasnt talking to you 01:25 BeBo46100 Octacian? 01:25 octacian BeBo46100: Yes? 01:25 BeBo46100 i made account now what? 01:26 octacian Make sure it's set up and you can access your server through the new noip account 01:27 BeBo46100 it gave me an ipv4 do i use that? 01:27 octacian I think so... 01:27 BeBo46100 where do i add my world? 01:28 octacian BeBo46100: You don't add your world there. 01:29 octacian NoIP is just to redirect to your server without you giving out your IP 01:30 octacian You have to first set up the minetest server software on a local machine that you keep on all the time 01:30 BeBo46100 sooo do i put the ip given as my Server Port? 01:31 octacian OK, where'd you get this IP? 01:31 BeBo46100 noip 01:31 BeBo46100 well no nvm it says ip/target 01:31 octacian Ah, I see 01:32 octacian You have to get your IP address, and put it in there 01:32 octacian Only NoIP will get to see that, no-one else (unless they type that one command in linux) 01:32 BeBo46100 in where exactly? 01:32 octacian Get your IP address by simply googling the term "What is my IP" 01:33 octacian And put that IP address given in the IP/Target area 01:33 octacian You know, if you're really worried about other people getting your IP, you might just have someone else host the server for you 01:33 BeBo46100 i want someone to but all i get is no :( 01:33 octacian I take it you just want a server for a few friends to access, correct? 01:34 BeBo46100 yes with my buildings 7 mods 01:34 BeBo46100 &* 01:34 octacian So, probably no more than 5 people on at a time? 01:34 BeBo46100 i'll allow only 6max 01:34 octacian hmmm 01:35 BeBo46100 all i want is my world public for a few friends 01:35 octacian There's several people who could host such a server, however, most would charge around $5/month 01:35 BeBo46100 pft i aint got money 01:35 octacian Then you're pretty well stuck... :P 01:35 BeBo46100 maybe you could host it :D 01:36 tumeninodes sure... for $5 per mo 01:36 BeBo46100 :/ 01:36 octacian lol 01:36 octacian I could, however, considering that you wouldn't be paying it wouldn't be on one of my better servers, one that has a slightly slow connection 01:37 octacian And would be relatively limited in several ways (world size, max resources that can be used, etc...) 01:37 BeBo46100 what do you mean? 01:37 octacian By resources I mean max amount of RAM/HDD space 01:37 BeBo46100 sooo can my server be hosted by someone? 01:38 octacian You may be able to get someone to host it for free, at least temporarily, however, it most definitely wouldn't perform as well as a paid server 01:38 octacian (building stuff, breaking blocks, using inventory, etc... might be slow) 01:38 BeBo46100 can you host it :D 01:39 octacian How big is the world? 01:40 BeBo46100 i have 2 buildings 01:40 octacian You know how to make a ZIP file? 01:41 BeBo46100 i've unzipped but not zipped 01:41 BeBo46100 i right click the file then choose compress/zip? 01:41 octacian Yes 01:41 octacian So, find the world file, right-click, and ZIP it 01:41 tumeninodes howdy wilkgr 01:41 BeBo46100 what do you want me to zip? 01:41 octacian The world folder. 01:42 BeBo46100 i can still access my world then right? 01:42 tumeninodes when you zip, it just makes a compressed copy of the original file, it's safe 01:43 BeBo46100 Whats Next? 01:43 wilkgr Hi tumeninodes :) 01:44 octacian uhhh...Make the ZIP of the world directory 01:44 octacian Or did you already? 01:44 BeBo46100 not yet but how do i find the World Directory? 01:45 octacian Lemme guess, Windows 01:45 octacian ? 01:46 BeBo46100 yup 01:46 tumeninodes afk 01:46 octacian OK, go to the directory from which to launch Minetest 01:47 octacian Rather than opening Minetest, go into the worlds folder from there 01:47 octacian Then, right click on the world you want to be on a server, and ZIP it 01:47 BeBo46100 im in worlds folder 01:47 BeBo46100 ok 01:47 BeBo46100 zip & Share? 01:48 octacian Upload to some place like onedrive 01:48 octacian And then share, followed by giving me the link 01:48 octacian Then I'll see if I can host it 01:48 BeBo46100 i have multiple zip options 01:48 octacian Again, if I do, it may not be permanent. 01:48 octacian OK? 01:48 BeBo46100 ok 01:49 BeBo46100 Poop 01:49 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: Nov-26 20:57 UTC meow 01:51 BeBo46100 missing or invalid file zip? 01:51 octacian Wuh..? 01:51 BeBo46100 nvm i fixed it 01:52 BeBo46100 its zipped now what? 01:54 BeBo46100 Octacian you still there? 01:54 octacian Yup 01:54 BeBo46100 what next? 01:54 octacian OK, so, upload the ZIPed file to some file hosting service 01:55 BeBo46100 ok 01:55 BeBo46100 what hosting service? 01:55 octacian In the end, what I want you to do, is "Share" the file online and give me a link 01:55 octacian Whatever you want. 01:55 octacian OneDrive, dropbox, box, mediafire, up to you 01:55 BeBo46100 idk any service's 01:55 BeBo46100 ok 01:56 BeBo46100 micrsoft onedrive? 01:58 BeBo46100 Hey I'll be right back 01:58 octacian Sure 01:58 BeBo46100 gotta go pray for dinner Brb 02:00 BeBo46100 Back 02:01 BeBo46100 sooo Upload the file to Microsoft onedrive right? 02:02 octacian Yup 02:11 tumeninodes omg, this is turning into #BeBo46100test :P 02:13 BeBo46100 XD 02:13 BeBo46100 https://onedrive.live.com/?id=root&cid=DA35E0FB989B1B1E 02:14 BeBo46100 Octacian here's the Link 02:14 octacian tumeninodes: IKR :P 02:14 octacian BeBo46100: OK, we'll see at this point. 02:15 tumeninodes octacian: it's like watching some innocent victim walking past a spider trap 02:15 octacian heh 02:15 BeBo46100 tumen XD 02:16 tumeninodes you are crazy-kind, friend..., I hope BeBo46100 is extra grateful and respectful for it 02:16 octacian BeBo46100: There's nothing there 02:16 BeBo46100 there should be because the zip was there 02:17 octacian heh, We'll still see if I actually host it. If I do, I'll limit world size and it will likely only be temporary, but we'll see 02:17 octacian BeBo46100: Nope, not there 02:17 BeBo46100 gimme sec 02:17 BeBo46100 Walk me through Please XD 02:18 octacian OK, take the ZIP file that you made, and upload it to onedrive 02:19 octacian From the onedrive website, locate the file and find a "Share" button attached to it 02:19 octacian Wait 02:19 octacian Locate the file, and click the check in the upper right corner 02:19 octacian Near the top left of the page, click "Share" 02:19 octacian Copy the provided URL and paste here 02:20 tumeninodes I'm headin' out. see ya the morrow octacian... (you'll prob still be here :D ) 02:20 octacian 'K, cya! :D 02:21 BeBo46100 https://onedrive.live.com/?id=DA35E0FB989B1B1E%21104&cid=DA35E0FB989B1B1E 02:21 BeBo46100 Check now 02:22 octacian Nope, doesn't exist :P 02:22 BeBo46100 want my login info? 02:23 BeBo46100 https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ah4bm5j74DXaakOVzRYwQPa18Es 02:24 octacian heh, I suppose that's an option 02:24 BeBo46100 tif its still not there then onedrive Ate it XD 02:24 octacian Although..it'd have been better had you sent it via PM :P 02:24 octacian Found it 02:24 BeBo46100 finally XD 02:24 octacian OK, good that worked fine 02:24 octacian Now, what mods did you want? 02:24 BeBo46100 now what XD 02:25 BeBo46100 uhhh 02:25 BeBo46100 are my mods not there? 02:25 octacian No, you have to list the mods separately 02:25 octacian Or, wait 02:25 octacian ZIP the `mods` folder inside the Minetest directory and upload that to OneDrive as well 02:27 BeBo46100 zipping Rn 02:27 wilkgr Wouldn't it have been easier to use the share button? 02:27 wilkgr It always works for me :/ 02:27 octacian Probably lol 02:27 wilkgr (share folder) 02:27 octacian I'm not too familiar with Windows ATM 02:33 BeBo46100 https://onedrive.live.com/?id=root&cid=DA35E0FB989B1B1E 02:33 BeBo46100 here 02:35 octacian OK, checking 02:36 octacian BeBo46100: Use the login info method, above link isn't working 02:37 BeBo46100 PWD AllforHim8 Email BeBo47100@gmail.com 02:38 octacian OK..rly should've sent that in PM 02:38 octacian Change your password in a minute :rofl: 02:38 BeBo46100 its fine i dont use onedrive 02:38 octacian I see 02:38 kaeza ... 02:38 octacian Still though... 02:38 octacian lol 02:38 BeBo46100 i know its not wise to put info public 02:39 BeBo46100 but i dont use onedrive 02:39 BeBo46100 plus i cant find your name in irc lsit 02:39 BeBo46100 List* 02:39 octacian And by login info method, I meant link related to this one: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ah4bm5j74DXaakOVzRYwQPa18Es 02:39 octacian heh, Oh well 02:40 BeBo46100 still works tho XD 02:43 BeBo46100 Octacian Did It Work? 02:43 octacian Yup 02:43 octacian You have HUDPlus and HUDLib? O_o 02:44 octacian heh, so more than just 1 person other than me uses it 02:44 BeBo46100 nope XD 02:45 octacian You do have it, or you don't? 02:45 octacian Like, just in general 02:45 BeBo46100 i dont think i have it no 02:46 octacian OK, so biome lib, church, cme, ethereal, evenmoreblocks, homedecor, hud hunger, mesecons, unifieddyes, weather, moreblocks, moretrees, plantlife, quartz, unified inventory, and xdecor? 02:46 BeBo46100 yup 02:46 octacian hmm, it showed up as if you did at one point anyways 02:46 octacian 'K 02:46 BeBo46100 you can join my world too :D 02:53 octacian BeBo46100: You want creative? 02:53 BeBo46100 let me know when you've made it public 02:53 BeBo46100 yes 02:54 BeBo46100 no survival 02:54 BeBo46100 otherwise my beloved hosue is gone XD 02:54 BeBo46100 House* 02:54 BeBo46100 just creative & The Mods 02:55 octacian OK, I don't think I'll set the server to announce 02:55 octacian Otherwise you might get too many people joining so that you couldn't join yourself 02:56 octacian Or do you want the server to show in the serverlist? 02:56 BeBo46100 make it just you me & Few People 02:56 octacian You can always type the IP and port manually - it prevents people from finding it that you don't want to 02:56 octacian Sounds good 02:57 BeBo46100 you me Lone_wolf & ElMehdiben 02:57 octacian heh, IK both of those people 02:58 octacian You want me to add spawnpoint mod? 02:58 BeBo46100 you know? 02:58 octacian It's pretty useful 02:58 BeBo46100 for second i thought you said you didnt know them XD 02:58 BeBo46100 i was like :/ 02:58 octacian OK, two more things to do 02:58 BeBo46100 :D 02:59 octacian What username will you play under? 02:59 BeBo46100 My Name in game? 02:59 octacian Yes 02:59 BeBo46100 Star_light85 Cuase its my Youtube Name 03:00 BeBo46100 Cause* 03:01 octacian BeBo46100: Just sent you a PM, check it 03:02 BeBo46100 i'll test it right now 05:02 redblade7 hi VanessaE , you there? 05:02 VanessaE hi 05:02 redblade7 hey listen 05:03 redblade7 on one of my servers (creative gardens), i am using older versions of your mods dependent on pre-param2 versions of unifieddyes 05:03 redblade7 namely because i dont want to cause chaos on a server over a year old with coloredwood 05:03 redblade7 it wasn't an issue on my other two servers because they were only a few months old 05:03 redblade7 but anyway 05:03 VanessaE there are LBMs in place to convert the old format to the new format. 05:04 redblade7 i am using the older homedecor_modpack 05:04 redblade7 pre-param2 05:04 redblade7 so you can use pre-param2 dyes which dont crash beds 05:04 redblade7 but 05:04 VanessaE no. 05:05 redblade7 upgrading to 0.4.16 still gave me the plasma blocks problem 05:05 VanessaE that's a minetest_game bug. 05:05 VanessaE the plasma blocks have been fixed. 05:05 redblade7 right 05:05 redblade7 you told me 05:05 redblade7 but i'm using the older homedecor so as not to be affected by that 05:05 redblade7 but 05:05 GreenDimond I don't suppose Napiophelios is on right now... 05:05 redblade7 is there any way to have the plasma blocks problem without breaking things/ 05:06 redblade7 https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_modpack/commit/bd70955a9b0cc082400db11d1431bce6bbfd0aab 05:06 redblade7 like if i was to make those changes 05:06 VanessaE redblade7: try cherry-picking that commit and apply it to your 0.4.15 homedecor. 05:06 redblade7 and create that obj file 05:06 VanessaE but no guarantees if it'll work 05:06 redblade7 ok 05:06 VanessaE just `git checkout 0.4.15; git cherry-pick ` and see if it works. 05:07 GreenDimond it appears someone is going around reporting posts that dont need to be reported, and I blame Napiophelios. But I have no way of knowing >:/ 05:07 redblade7 you mean this? https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_modpack/releases/tag/0.4.15 05:07 GreenDimond I guess he claims they are "off-topic" but the ones getting deleted arent TOO off-topic and the owners of the thread are fine with the posts and such. 05:08 redblade7 i dont think i'm using something that recent 05:08 VanessaE yes, redblade7. 05:09 redblade7 does that require a param2 unifieddyes? 05:09 redblade7 because what of your mods i have on that server, i havent updated unifieddyes or any of your mods dependent on it 05:09 redblade7 i guess i can try 05:10 redblade7 i just dont want to have a situation where i can't downgrade, like i did with coloredwood on my digital farms server 05:10 redblade7 fortunately i backed up my server today so i can try using that 05:18 redblade7 sometime i have to learn how to make minetest mods so i can fork it. every time i update homedecor i re-edit bathroom_sanitation and kitchen_furniture to allow the ancient behavior of dispensing water regardless of what's under it 05:23 redblade7 first let me see how the 0.4.15 branch works on my server 05:23 redblade7 then i will try playing with it 05:35 redblade7 ok i'll do the cherry-pick 05:35 redblade7 never heard of it 05:36 redblade7 wait...git checkout 0.4.15 05:36 redblade7 i did the tarball 05:37 redblade7 no 05:37 redblade7 i dont have a .git folder in homedecor_modpack 05:37 redblade7 i'll have to do this myself 05:41 redblade7 homedecor_generic_plastic.png used to be homedecor_generic_plastic_black.png 05:42 redblade7 wtf 05:42 redblade7 hexchat randomly closed 05:43 redblade7 windows sucks 05:44 redblade7 homedecor-0.4.15 under 0.4.16 has a correctly colored plasma ball base. i'm wondering if i should just leave that alone. 05:46 VanessaE leave it alone. 05:46 VanessaE that was a bug introduced with hardware coloring that I later fixed. 05:55 redblade7 ok let's see 06:07 redblade7 looks great! 06:07 redblade7 i only made this change: https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_modpack/commit/bd70955a9b0cc082400db11d1431bce6bbfd0aab#diff-adc917287248f285b31c65166224547b 06:08 redblade7 sorry 06:08 redblade7 https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_modpack/commit/bd70955a9b0cc082400db11d1431bce6bbfd0aab 06:08 redblade7 you should do that to the 0.4.15 branch 06:08 VanessaE no, the 0.4.15 tag is fixed in place 06:08 redblade7 oh 06:09 VanessaE and I don't support old versions anyway 06:10 redblade7 well i still got stuff to do tonight so thank you 08:17 sigz I played a bit with the intllib mod, works very well for translations, I made some new integration in some mods, I was wondering if dev would accept intllib integration in mods from minetest_game base (because in my opinion, these mods must be translated) 08:27 Hijiri sigz: I would guess probably not, but you can ask in #minetest-dev 08:27 Hijiri or even open a PR if you already have the code anyway 08:27 Hijiri if not you could open an issue 08:35 sigz hmm 08:35 sigz ok 09:27 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kilbith -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix arm inertia limit case 1348cd217 https://git.io/vQZBo (152017-06-27T09:26:37Z) 09:57 MinetestBot 02[git] 04adrido -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix msvc annoyances (#5963) 13d7343b6 https://git.io/vQZzH (152017-06-27T09:54:40Z) 10:00 IhrFussel does the "not" condition in Lua fire in both cases? 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12:36 * lumidify has no idea about gdb :P 12:36 lumidify Sorry 12:36 * lumidify shall do that 12:43 lumidify This is with bt: https://pastebin.com/Wy3eB6tn 12:43 lumidify Something with threading... no idea what though 12:48 sfan5 spam-highlighting the whole nick list including freenode staff has to be another level of dumb 12:51 Out`Of`Control KKK group 12:51 Out`Of`Control wtf 12:51 lumidify \whois Out`Of`Control 12:51 lumidify Whoops, just checking random people, sorry :P 12:51 Out`Of`Control lumidify: next time use status tab 12:52 lumidify checking meaning I'm just curious about everyone 12:54 lumidify Doing /whois is something I do when I'm bored :( 13:37 lumidify Oh well, I guess for now I'll just keep around a linux laptop for MT as long as the new versions don't work on OpenBSD. 13:44 IhrFussel Guys is math.random() in Lua not a good way to generate random numbers? I have an event on my server and it seems to fire a lot at 30% chance...is that just bad luck? 13:46 * ndjdjksisksk just tried to join a server on FreeBSD and got an error involving mutex.cpp 13:46 ndjdjksisksk https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6065 13:48 red-001 lumidify, the issue happens when you try to start a singleplayer game right? 13:48 red-001 not when starting the main menu 13:51 sfan5 lumidify: my guess is that there is some openbsd specific bug/race condition in the threading code 13:57 red-001 I think this is an example of why the size of posts should be limited https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=17978&p=280066 13:59 sfan5 red-001: no, that's a prime example of why shitposters should be banne 13:59 sfan5 d 14:14 lumidify red-001: sorry, I was afk - if I compile without -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug, it aborts immediately, if I compile it with that, it aborts as soon as I try to start a game or join a server. 14:39 lumidify sfan5: were any major changes done to threading between 0.4.15 and 0.4.16 though? 0.4.15 works for me on OpenBSD if I compile it (the version in the repositories is still 0.4.14). 14:42 sfan5 pthread wrappers were removed 14:42 sfan5 now only C++11 threads are used 14:42 sfan5 or was that after 0.4.16? 14:42 sfan5 wait nvm that was afterwards 14:42 sfan5 no idea 14:43 lumidify Yeah, I think I'll just keep around another OS for Minetest :) 15:44 IhrFussel How do I have to understand this parameter in the ore definition "clust_scarcity = 17*17*17," ? 16:24 cx384 IhrFussel, I think clust_scarcity tells you how large is the distance between ores. clust_scarcity = 17*17*17 means that one ore is generated every 4913 nodes. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4387 16:26 IhrFussel cx384, what? That can't be I just found several of the same ore inside the exact same cave ... or you mean every 4913th ore will be that one? 16:26 ThomasMonroe you also have to look at how many ores are in the cluster 16:27 IhrFussel ThomasMonroe, I found multiple spots with the same ore..they weren't in the same cluster AFAIK 16:27 cx384 It will be that one? 16:28 IhrFussel "that one" = the ore I register 16:28 ThomasMonroe hmm 16:28 cx384 then yes 16:29 IhrFussel A player actually found more of the 17*17*17 ores in the cave than 11*11*11 ores...so is that just bad luck? 16:30 ThomasMonroe ok i think ik what happened 16:31 ThomasMonroe 17x17x17 is the box in which the cluster sits 16:31 cx384 do you consider clust_num_ores ? 16:31 ThomasMonroe a smaller box means the closer the clusters 16:31 cx384 yes 16:32 ThomasMonroe also the clusters dont sit directly in the middle of the box, they can be anywhere in the box 16:32 ThomasMonroe so it wont be always 17*2 nodes away 16:32 ThomasMonroe to the next cluster 16:34 IhrFussel But the player found ~ 50 17*17*17 ores and only ~ 20 11*11*11 ... that doesn't seem right 16:35 IhrFussel clust_num_ores = 3, clust_size = 3, 16:35 ThomasMonroe in a cave though, the cave may have intersected more of the 17x17x17 clusters than the 11x11x11 16:36 cx384 The minetest api tells us "This value should be *MUCH* higher than your intuition might tell you!". 16:39 IhrFussel That's very helpful..not 16:40 IhrFussel I checked other ore definitions...mithril has 11*11*11 so I thought 17*17*17 should mean "barely generated" but guess I was wrong...I increased it to 19*19*19 now 16:43 cx384 for mese blocks it is 36 * 36 * 36 16:44 ThomasMonroe for my exotic ores mod i have many of my ores generating at higher than 20x20x20 16:51 red-001 !seen DabbetulArz 16:51 MinetestBot red-001: Sorry, I haven't seen dabbetularz around. 16:52 red-001 ¬seen DabbetulArz 16:52 red-001 ~seen DabbetulArz 16:52 ShadowBot red-001: I haven't seen DabbetulArz in #minetest. 16:54 ThomasMonroe how do you create a pull request for MTG? 16:56 red-001 you need to fork the repo first 16:57 ThomasMonroe ahh ok, i'll try that 16:57 red-001 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game#fork-destination-box 16:58 ThomasMonroe i had the crazy stupid idea of adding more ores, but it changed into new uses for tin 16:59 ThomasMonroe other than just making bronze and tools that werent valuable 16:59 red-001 fork the repo 17:00 red-001 create a branch in your copy 17:00 red-001 and make your changes 17:01 red-001 http://dev.minetest.net/Git 17:03 DS-minetest click on the fork button, clone the minetest repo (not your fork) to your games folder, rename the new folder, open there the terminal again, $git checkout -b , add commits, $git push . that would be my way 17:07 ThomasMonroe thanks red-001 i made my pull request 17:07 VanessaE DS-minetest: actually, he should clone his fork, not the minetest repo. 17:08 ThomasMonroe right VE 17:08 ThomasMonroe thats what i did, er figured out to do 17:08 VanessaE otherwise default would be to try (and fail) to push to upstream 17:08 ThomasMonroe because i dont have write acess 17:08 ThomasMonroe correct? 17:08 VanessaE yep 17:09 DS-minetest my way isn't the best one but it works for me 17:10 ThomasMonroe np Ds 17:11 ThomasMonroe i gtg eat brb in a couple of hours 17:13 red-001 test 17:14 DS-minetest another test 17:14 Raven262 And one test more. 17:19 antims Any tips on finding lava in a v7-mapgen MTG map? (Without clip or creative mode or anything.) 17:19 antims Lava used to be just everywhere in some of the earlier mapgens. (Like, somewhere between a third and half of underground caverns had lava.) Now, it seems pretty difficult to find. 17:20 antims (I'm guessing it's not uncommon to "get lucky" and see lava everywhere when you're not looking for it, but that's not been the case for me.) 17:22 antims I've done a good amount of digging down to roughly -1300, and explored a couple-dozen caverns well below the -273 (nice reference, by the way) threshold. 17:25 Krock uhm.. dig straight down? 17:25 Krock the lava lakes will occur more often in the depths 17:26 antims Ah. 'k. So it's not just that they don't occurr above -273 and below -273 they're "common" (whatever that means). They do get more common as you dig down well below -273? 17:27 Krock well sure, there's a limit for the generation near the surface 17:27 Krock but I'm not sure how deep this limit is 17:27 antims Ok. I guess I'll keep going down, then. That helps. Thanks. :) 17:27 Krock !next 17:27 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 17:27 antims Oh. According to the wiki, it's -273 (-32 for the v6 mapgen, -273 for all others.) 17:28 antims http://wiki.minetest.net/Lava 18:19 rdococ Minæ Testæ! 19:37 jcalve sometimes I find some of my crops are gone, do they die after a while or do farm animal mobs eat them? 19:43 calcul0n jcalve, some mobs eat them yes 19:43 jcalve ok thanks -_- 19:44 calcul0n small pesky bugs :) 20:00 KaadmY Any idea why this is happening now? https://pastebin.com/y9BJ4JH0 20:01 KaadmY I don't remember than happening in 0.4.15, and the error is calling `next` (which I assume is a Lua call for iterating tables), which I don't use anywhere 20:02 KaadmY Hm 20:03 KaadmY Also the data from get_list and the data passed to set_list are the same (except one containing an ItemStack and the other is an item table) 20:34 swift110 hey all 20:35 ThomasMonroe hey 21:09 ThomasMonroe well i gtg play for the afternoon cya tonight 21:47 red-001 ~seen tumeninodes 21:47 ShadowBot red-001: I saw tumeninodes in #minetest 19 hours, 27 minutes, and 10 seconds ago saying "I'm headin' out. see ya the morrow octacian... (you'll prob still be here :D )" 22:06 swift110 ok 22:09 tumeninodes red-001: you rang? 22:10 red-001 not really 22:11 tumeninodes okie dokie 22:11 red-001 I was just checking did I not notice you or where you just not on today 22:11 tumeninodes I think I only logged in once today for a few but got called away, then logged off 22:27 tumeninodes bigfoot: howwwdy ho 22:28 Ruslan1 Hello hello 22:28 tumeninodes Hi 22:29 Ruslan1 Do you have server 22:29 Nox[Matrix] Ruslan1: I have boneless pizza 22:30 tumeninodes Me? no I'm not into sadomasochism 22:30 tumeninodes boneless pizza? 22:31 Ruslan1 Some server is not working for me 22:31 AntumDeluge I've noticed that the mod 'pipeworks' has a boolean setting 'liquid_finite'. This setting doesn't seem to be documented anywhere. Does anyone know if this setting is related to Minetest itself, or is it specific to 'pipeworks'? Perhaps this is a deprecated setting? 22:34 Ruslan1 Ok 22:34 tumeninodes sorry Ruslan1. you're looking for help with a server? 22:34 Ruslan1 Why pizza server is not working for me 22:35 tumeninodes no idea 22:36 tumeninodes could be a number of reasons. Best to try to contact the server admin 22:37 Ruslan1 How 22:39 Ruslan1 tumeninodes how 22:39 tumeninodes I have no idea who runs that server 22:40 Ruslan1 Can you try 22:40 tumeninodes try what? 22:40 Ruslan1 Pizza server 22:42 Ruslan1 It working 22:42 tumeninodes you're all set now then? 22:42 Ruslan1 Did you fix it 22:43 tumeninodes dude, I can't fix it, I don;t own nor run it 22:43 tumeninodes sometimes you just need to wait a bit then try again... it's magic 22:44 Ruslan1 I'll try it works for me 22:48 tumeninodes AntumDeluge: I think that is deprecated. Not positive though 22:48 Ruslan1 Pizza server is not working for me 22:50 AntumDeluge Thank you for the response tumeninodes. I noticed that of all the mods I have installed, only 'pipeworks' uses it. 22:50 Ruslan1 Hey hello 22:51 tumeninodes it does not impact it loading though correct? 22:51 Ruslan1 hello hello 22:52 AntumDeluge Nope. Works fine. 22:53 tumeninodes Ruslan1: I wish I could help you but, I am not an expert with servers. I will repeat though, this could be for numerous reasons. 22:53 AntumDeluge The reason I ask is because I'm trying to put all available mod settings for my server into a 'settingtypes.txt' file. Just couldn't find any information on 'liquid_finite'. 22:54 Ruslan1 AntumDeluge can I join your server 22:54 tumeninodes AntumDeluge: oh, ok... well looks like you can just skip liquid_finite then :P 22:54 AntumDeluge Sorry Ruslan1, it's not public. I just run it for my kids. 22:55 Ruslan1 Ok 22:55 tumeninodes I "think" liquid finite was prior to the current water code / settings 22:56 tumeninodes Ruslan1: have you tried to log into any other servers? Or do you only use Pizza server? 22:57 tumeninodes try another. maybe pizza server is at it's max for players, or down for some service, or who knows 22:57 AntumDeluge Ah, okay. So new water code has taken care of what 'liquid_finite' was meant to accomplish. From what I could find, it looks like it was by mods to prevent griefing. 22:57 Ruslan1 It not working for me 22:58 AntumDeluge Ruslan1, are you talking about the server called "FREE PIZZA SERVER"? I just tried it & it works for me. 22:58 tumeninodes so you could either simply leave the code in pipeworks as is, or strip it out, or comment it out. I would just leave it 22:59 AntumDeluge I'll leave it for now as it would might affect 'pipeworks'. But I will notify that the dev that it is probably not needed anymore. 23:00 Ruslan1 FREE PIZZA SERVER is not working for android 23:00 tumeninodes ok : ) 23:00 AntumDeluge Oh, Ruslan1, what happens when you try to connect on Android? 23:01 Ruslan1 It was errors 23:01 AntumDeluge Does the client act like it is connecting, then crashes? 23:01 Ruslan1 Yeah 23:02 tumeninodes afk 23:03 AntumDeluge Do you know how much RAM your Android device has? The Minetest client has some issues with RAM, I would expect even more so with heavy server that might require more. 23:05 AntumDeluge Ruslan1, did you see my message? 23:05 AntumDeluge "Do you know how much RAM your Android device has? The Minetest client has some issues with RAM, I would expect even more so with heavy server that might require more." 23:05 Ruslan1 Where 23:06 AntumDeluge The Minetest client for Android has some issues with RAM. 23:06 AntumDeluge It can be especially hard to connect to servers if your Android device has then 2GB of RAM. 23:06 Ruslan1 How to find it 23:07 AntumDeluge It looks like the pizza server may be especially heavy, so maybe even a device with 2GB might have trouble connecting. 23:07 AntumDeluge Hang on, I'll try to remember how to find the RAM. What device are you using? 23:07 Ruslan1 Hold on I need find settings 23:08 AntumDeluge Ya, in settings menu, go to 'Memory'. It should tell you 'Total memory'. 23:10 AntumDeluge Should look something like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/i0eZUt1HMTY/maxresdefault.jpg 23:18 kaeza !server pizza 23:18 MinetestBot kaeza: FREE PIZZA SERVER!! | 24.208.202.9 | Clients: 5/32, 3/5 | Version: 0.4.15 / minetest | Ping: 121ms 23:18 kaeza it seems to be up 23:18 kaeza :P 23:18 kaeza <3 MinetestBot 23:18 MinetestBot <3 kaeza