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ThomasMonroe |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Ores: Make 'absheight' flag non-functional 936d67d https://git.io/vQ36N (2017-06-26T03:38:36Z) |
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hisforever |
hi is there a url for minetest's World Eduit? |
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VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=572 |
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hisforever |
thanks VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
yw |
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lumidify |
Does anyone know why new versions of MT (0.4.16, 0.4.16-dev) are crashing on OpenBSD? 0.4.15 works fine, but the later ones won't even open before dumping core. I'm compiling with gcc/g++ 4.9.4. |
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hisforever |
OK in Singleplayer mode How do I grant myself priveledges? |
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hisforever |
sorry for tyops |
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lumidify |
hisforever: /grant singleplayer <priv> |
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hisforever |
ty Lumidify |
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VanessaE |
hisforever: or just /grantme all |
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hisforever |
let me get in to my world brb |
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hisforever |
can I give singleplayer a name? |
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lumidify |
GDB gives me this when I try to run my compiled MT on OpenBSD: https://pastebin.com/fZVXN9bi |
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VanessaE |
O_o |
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VanessaE |
hisforever: generally, no. but you can run a local server with any username you want, but that's not really "single"player thenm |
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VanessaE |
-m |
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hisforever |
ok |
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sigz |
is there's a way to create translation on game nodes ? seems only menus and gui are translated |
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VanessaE |
there's an internationalization lib mod for minetest |
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VanessaE |
whether it's useful depends on mods supporting it (many do) |
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VanessaE |
and whether the mod has the language you're interested in (variable) |
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sigz |
how should this be done for mods ? And seems none of the base minetest_game mods are translate |
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sigz |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4929 ? |
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VanessaE |
that's the right mod |
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VanessaE |
but I don't know how to use it |
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VanessaE |
(ironic because some of my projects use it - but not by my hand) |
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sigz |
yes but |
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sigz |
"Thanks to VanessaE for allowing me to mess with her code to add support for it in homedecor." |
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VanessaE |
yep |
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sigz |
I didn't found anything in the code :D |
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sigz |
aah I found it |
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VanessaE |
kaeza has write access to the homedecor repo, but that comment is from loooooooong ago when the i18n lib worked differently |
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sigz |
that was another folder right |
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IhrFussel |
Will register_on_craft() be called when cooking something? |
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sfan5 |
check the furnace code |
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sfan5 |
i'm guessing it won't |
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IhrFussel |
sfan5, so there is NO callback for cooking? That is seriously bad if true |
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sfan5 |
dunno, just check the code |
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IhrFussel |
Guys air nodes have the property walkable = false right? |
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sfan5 |
they have whatever the default is |
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IhrFussel |
sfan5, that makes no sense... you CAN'T walk on air |
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sfan5 |
wait no they override the default |
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sfan5 |
why am i guessing even |
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sfan5 |
just check the code |
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IhrFussel |
Well what I can tell you is they DON'T have the property walkable = false |
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sfan5 |
maybe it's implied for airlike |
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juhdanad |
So air is walkable? |
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IhrFussel |
My monster spawn code works ONLY if I add the 2nd condition if getnode.walkable == "false" or getnode.name == "air" then |
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juhdanad |
Well, it might be: air does not own a collision box, therefore it does not matter if it is walkable or not. |
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IhrFussel |
To modders it might matter a lot |
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sfan5 |
don't check for air |
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sfan5 |
you should check for drawtype == "airlike" |
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IhrFussel |
It really doesn't matter I still have to do 2 checks AFAIK...or is water airlike? |
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sfan5 |
no |
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sfan5 |
but multiple types of air could exist |
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sfan5 |
they usually don't but its possible |
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IhrFussel |
sfan5, but you can't tell me why my code doesn't fire with air even though the node def states walkable = false? |
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sfan5 |
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IhrFussel |
No offense really but SOMETIMES I really wonder if the devs have any clue about ANYTHING regarding the code/features/behaviors etc ... I gotta say it's a little awkward if a server owner can help me more than a CORE DEV |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: there are many reasons |
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Bobr2 |
true |
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sfan5 |
IhrFussel: not with that attitude |
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juhdanad |
Modders and core developers should work together. Knowing the c++ side does not imply knowing the Lua side as well. |
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IhrFussel |
"read the f... code" is not the answer I expect from someone who claims to be involved in core development of a software |
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sfan5 |
oh i didn't know i'm legally obligated to help you |
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twoelk |
knowing Lua and c++ does not guarantee to know how a server works and players act in real life |
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juhdanad |
twoelk: true as well |
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juhdanad |
I, as an example, can not write a complex mod, yet I help in extending the Lua API. |
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IhrFussel |
sfan5, I never said that you are... but can you tell me how "read the code" is a GOOD answer? |
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sfan5 |
it is not a good answer |
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sfan5 |
it's just that i don't have the time to verify what the code actually does right now |
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sfan5 |
also just because i'm a coredev does not mean i know every portion of minetest code |
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IhrFussel |
You could redirect me to another core dev who likely knows what the issue is or something like that...ot you could simply say that you have no time to check it now |
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sfan5 |
i don't know who would know either |
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IhrFussel |
But I wasn't just talking about the situation now... I meant in general core devs seem to care LITTLE about server owners |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: it is 100% volunteery project, so any help depends on luck/laziness/buziness/phaseofthemoon |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: people have IRL too |
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IhrFussel |
Fixer, that doesn't excuse that core devs ignore many questions/suggestions |
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Bobr2 |
may i suggest something |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: as you can see -dev is quite as hell, that suggests something |
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Fixer |
i mean silent |
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Fixer |
wrong english suspected |
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twoelk |
yeah- sommerholidays are comming and a lot of universities are running last exams |
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Shara |
Well, I left -dev pretty much because a dev made me feel unwelcome. |
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twoelk |
the usual suspects? |
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Shara |
Probably :P |
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Shara |
I can feel both sides of the arguments though. |
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* JordachL |
got SASL working :D |
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IhrFussel |
TO ME it doesn't feel like the core devs think server owners are a big part of the project |
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Shara |
The devs really have shown they don't think about servers/server-owners more than once. But then maybe that's not their thing to think about. |
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Shara |
In theory -hub is meant to help with it. And I think it has helped a bit. |
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twoelk |
well one thing for sure, if the devs have a work spree, they shouldn't be disturbed for the better of the project :-D |
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JordachL |
for i=1, 1000000000000 do print ("^") end |
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Fixer |
you still don't understand |
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Fixer |
minetest is just volunteer project that takes only some (small) part of their life |
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twoelk |
in fact I think server owners could get better organized and share more info - which I thought hub would help at |
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Shara |
twoelk: It has helped I think. |
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IhrFussel |
Okay you know what? My server is just a PART of my life BUT I somehow still manage to help players ingame, modify code, fix bugs, add new contents AND sometimes play |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: thats your case |
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Shara |
As did project previously. |
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JordachL |
i need a discord <-> IRC bridge |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: but if you look, devs also have IRL, jobs, and cthulhu forbid - kids and other stuff |
| 12:50 |
Fixer |
and you need to clean up the fucking house sometimes |
| 12:50 |
Fixer |
and enjoy life sometimes |
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JordachL |
Fixer: i have kittens, go figure |
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IhrFussel |
You don't seem to get my point... WHILE the devs spent their time on MT dev they IGNORE stuff |
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IhrFussel |
spend* |
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Out`Of`Control |
IhrFussel: open ticket on github |
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twoelk |
for example server owners could publish more scripts and ways to cope with player related problems |
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Bobr2 |
why not just create a fourum page?? |
| 12:51 |
twoelk |
just expand what allready exists :-D |
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IhrFussel |
Out`Of`Control, look at the open issues abnd then look at the closed issues...do you see a pattern? |
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Shara |
twoelk: I actually wish I had time to do things like that. But when it comes to running my servers these days, most of my time goes on fixing things that are broken, or worrying about changes to the game that I can't control. |
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Out`Of`Control |
IhrFussel: i open many, did not close any. |
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IhrFussel |
MANY of the open issues NEVER got recognition from the devs... NOT EVEN a reaction, NOT EVEN a comment...no dev TALKED about the issue |
| 12:53 |
Shara |
There are... not enough devs. |
| 12:53 |
IhrFussel |
It takes 1 minute to write a little comment expressing your feelings |
| 12:54 |
twoelk |
might be an issue that nobody has an idea to solve |
| 12:54 |
IhrFussel |
twoelk, so you IGNORE it?? That is wrong IMO |
| 12:55 |
twoelk |
so add a lot of <I have nothing to say but I noticed>? |
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IhrFussel |
No, devs should always have to say something about stuff that affects the software they work on |
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IhrFussel |
have something* |
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twoelk |
like <would be nice but I can't help>? |
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sfan5 |
JordachL: https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc |
| 12:57 |
twoelk |
we have quite a lot of that kind of statement |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: priorities... |
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IhrFussel |
twoelk, they could at least say if they support that idea, are neutral or opposed |
| 12:58 |
IhrFussel |
A reaction emoticon would already be enough really |
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IhrFussel |
No comment required |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: say you need at least 6 hrs of sleep, 8 hrs of work + 2 hrs of some usual shit, you have just 8 hrs (if very lucky, and you want to relax also after work) |
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Out`Of`Control |
Fixer: unless you can relax at work |
| 13:00 |
Fixer |
*depends on work |
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IhrFussel |
You seem to think that it's HARD WORK to react to an issue...I really don't know what to tell you...to me it's just laziness |
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twoelk |
IhrFussel I guess I agree with you in general but don't regard the workflow so pessimistic and frustrating - but then again - I don't run a public server (or only rather rarely) |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: you expect devs to know everything, but realise, most of the code was not written by them |
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Fixer |
but by cele-ron |
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twoelk |
hm, spelled like that it looks sort of like greek for inner house - wich makes sense in this context :-P |
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celeron55 |
Fixer: cele is a hilight for me |
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IhrFussel |
Fixer, I never said that I expect devs to know the entire code...but "read the code" is a pretty silly answer I hope you agree there |
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Shara |
No slipping anything past celeron55 :) |
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celeron55 |
it's a very common shorthand of my nick for finnish people |
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twoelk |
IhrFussel, if you add up what was said before you expect a helpfull dev to go read the code for others |
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twoelk |
which actually happens quite often iirc |
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Nexus24680 |
Hello |
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Nexus24680 |
Sup |
| 13:07 |
Nexus24680 |
I have a question |
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DS-minetest |
what is the ISO code for finnish? |
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IhrFussel |
twoelk, no not at all...I expect someone who claims to be a dev to be able to give me a good answer...that answer doesn't have to be the SOLUTION but I expect something more competent than a "read the code and try to understand" |
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Nexus24680 |
Fake devs again? Jeez, this has to end someday |
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Out`Of`Control |
Nexus24680: what? |
| 13:09 |
Nexus24680 |
Anyway, I have a question |
| 13:09 |
Nexus24680 |
How can I change the main menu using the main_menu_script function? |
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* DS-minetest |
wants to make speech dispatcher say c55's name in finnish |
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texmex |
Like any aspiring modder, I'm making updates to PilzAdam's item_drop. There were a few deprecated calls that I've updated, as well as new features. If anyone sees more modernization opportunities, feel free to point them out. https://github.com/tacotexmex/item_drop |
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Nexus24680 |
Guys, I asked something. Please someone respond |
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PureTryOut[m] |
If I knew the answer I would've responded |
| 13:12 |
PureTryOut[m] |
Now you seem rather rude |
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twoelk |
I guess minetest code is a little too large for the quite legit wish IhrFussel - a lot larger than most dev's field of knowledge |
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Fixer |
Fi-xer |
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Fixer |
hmmm |
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juhdanad |
Nexus: where is main_menu_script? |
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juhdanad |
Is it documented? |
| 13:13 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: it is open source, it is often faster to read the code than to wait volunteers to help you :) |
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twoelk |
not if you dont speak code :-D |
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Nexus24680 |
main_menu_script is the init.lua located on the mainmenu folder located inside the built-in folder |
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cccady |
wiki.minetest.net/mod was changed to be in Russian, which *should* be at wiki.minetest.net/Mod/ru. May I have a wiki account to change it back to English, or else would someone change it back? |
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Fixer |
the(a)n you need to be very patient :) |
| 13:14 |
twoelk |
argh did andrey break it again in the wiki? |
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cccady |
Yes, he did. |
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Nexus24680 |
On Minetest.conf you can change it to another main menu script to have another menu like the one Freeminer has |
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Nexus24680 |
But when I try to change it, and enero the game, it crashes |
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twoelk |
give me a sec |
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juhdanad |
Did you use an absolute path? |
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Nexus24680 |
Huh? |
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Nexus24680 |
I used this |
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Nexus24680 |
-emulated-0-Download-mainmenu-init.lua |
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Nexus24680 |
Replace dashes with slashes |
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juhdanad |
Is there any console output? |
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cccady |
Thanks, @twoelk. |
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* DS-minetest |
found out it's "fi" and the c is spoken like an s |
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twoelk |
duh, can anybody fluent in russian merge http://wiki.minetest.net/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%8B into http://wiki.minetest.net/Mods/ru and not loosing anything? |
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Emerald2 |
Does dynamodan ever come in here? I suppose he's called something else on other servers. |
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ThomasMonroe |
ive seen dynamodan on MM-Survival |
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Ahh is that where he hangs out these days? |
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Johnnygag |
Hi is Someone Here?? |
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IhrFussel |
!seen Someone |
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MinetestBot |
IhrFussel: Sorry, I haven't seen someone around. |
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IhrFussel |
xP |
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linz-mt |
Hi - is there a way to get an id or fingerprint of a client please? I've got an IP dodger doing his darndest to be a nuisance ... |
| 16:53 |
linz-mt |
(so using xban with ip has been no help ...) |
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IhrFussel |
linz-mt, nope |
| 16:57 |
IhrFussel |
All server owners can only rely on IP bans...you could ban his whole subnet but that would potentially block other people too |
| 16:57 |
Johnnygag |
Ihrfussel |
| 16:58 |
Johnnygag |
IhrFussel? |
| 16:58 |
Johnnygag |
Someone Respond |
| 16:58 |
linz-mt |
ok thanks . thoguht so. *sigh* |
| 16:59 |
Johnnygag |
Anybody? |
| 16:59 |
IhrFussel |
Johnnygag, why are you mentioning me? |
| 17:01 |
Johnnygag |
i wanted to ask you a question |
| 17:01 |
Johnnygag |
is it possible someone could make me a Mod? |
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Shara |
Johnnygag: maybe ask specific questions about what help you need |
| 17:02 |
Shara |
Whether someone can help you probably depends on what exactly you want to make |
| 17:02 |
Johnnygag |
i Wanted To Know if Someone Could Make Me a MOD? |
| 17:03 |
Shara |
You mean you want to moderate on someone's server? |
| 17:03 |
Shara |
Or code a mod for the game? |
| 17:03 |
Johnnygag |
An Restaurant Mod Set Like Table Soda Machines Kitchen Floor Benchs |
| 17:03 |
tumeninodes |
Johnnygag: you need to use patience. If you have a question, ask it, then wait for a response. Or you can ask on the forums, and... wait. |
| 17:03 |
Shara |
Hmm, well, a lot of mods have things like that in them already I think |
| 17:04 |
tumeninodes |
there is a section for mod requests & ideas. |
| 17:04 |
Shara |
Check homedecor or xdecor |
| 17:04 |
Johnnygag |
Home decor has kitchen set but i mean like an real restaurant |
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| 17:04 |
Shara |
If you have something really specific in mind, you are probably going to need to be the one making it. |
| 17:04 |
Johnnygag |
the soda dispenser kitchen set floor set table set bench set |
| 17:05 |
Johnnygag |
how?!? lol i've never made an mod plus id fail :/ |
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Shara |
So what you actually want is someone to just do it for you? |
| 17:06 |
Johnnygag |
yea because you guys have the programs & Experience i dont |
| 17:06 |
tumeninodes |
hmmmm, hire-a-mod? $$$$$ :P |
| 17:06 |
Shara |
Actually, a lot of us just taught ourselves because we wanted to add things |
| 17:06 |
Johnnygag |
i'd fail |
| 17:06 |
tumeninodes |
But.you cannot "fail" until you have tried |
| 17:07 |
Shara |
Can only agree with tumeninodes :) |
| 17:07 |
Johnnygag |
tumen its a mod i have to size it choose the color crop it design it & somehow modifie it for the game |
| 17:08 |
tumeninodes |
you can try, ask for help, etc... but you seem to be rather impatient, which will get you nowhere |
| 17:08 |
Johnnygag |
thats only problem is modifieing it to work with the game |
| 17:08 |
twoelk |
Johnnygag: somebody might help if you provide something like textures or models |
| 17:08 |
Johnnygag |
provide like what? |
| 17:08 |
tumeninodes |
^ ... and patience |
| 17:08 |
Shara |
Textures/models |
| 17:09 |
Johnnygag |
im not sure what you mean twoelk |
| 17:09 |
twoelk |
well a texture is atexture that is made of an texture by texturing atexture |
| 17:09 |
tumeninodes |
means you need to be willing to contribute in some way |
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twoelk |
pain6t a picture |
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Johnnygag |
i will |
| 17:10 |
Johnnygag |
you mean show them my idea on a paper? |
| 17:10 |
twoelk |
describe the functions |
| 17:10 |
twoelk |
yeah be as precice as you can and make a post about it in the forum |
| 17:10 |
Johnnygag |
have you guys eaten at a restaurant? |
| 17:10 |
tumeninodes |
btw, Hi Shara, and twoelk |
| 17:11 |
twoelk |
many a different one that all looked different |
| 17:11 |
Johnnygag |
can i post a picture on this chat? |
| 17:11 |
twoelk |
sitting on stools, benches, chairs, the floor and carpets |
| 17:11 |
Johnnygag |
or will that not work? |
| 17:11 |
Johnnygag |
twoelk yes |
| 17:12 |
twoelk |
upload it to imgur or such and post a link |
| 17:12 |
Johnnygag |
& the kitchens tables soda dispenser |
| 17:12 |
tumeninodes |
do it all at https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=2434 is better |
| 17:12 |
Johnnygag |
who can i message for this idea? |
| 17:13 |
Johnnygag |
VanessaE? |
| 17:13 |
tumeninodes |
meesage no one. Post the idea, request and be patient |
| 17:13 |
Shara |
Follow th elink tumeninodes just gave |
| 17:13 |
twoelk |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5939 study this for example |
| 17:13 |
tumeninodes |
NO leave VanessaE alone hahaha |
| 17:13 |
Johnnygag |
yup i dont exactly like her XD |
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tumeninodes |
that's not nice, she helped you |
| 17:14 |
tumeninodes |
as I said earlier, you are rather impatient |
| 17:14 |
Johnnygag |
last time she helped me she cussed me out & Was Making Rude remarks |
| 17:14 |
Johnnygag |
tumen no im not |
| 17:14 |
tumeninodes |
I saw no rude remarks |
| 17:14 |
Johnnygag |
um she was rude |
| 17:14 |
tumeninodes |
no, she was frustrated |
| 17:15 |
Johnnygag |
yea because she has no patience for me to do the stuff & Learn how to use it |
| 17:15 |
twoelk |
Vanessa has several kids asking her for stuff every day for years now |
| 17:15 |
Johnnygag |
i've never done waht she asked me to do EVER |
| 17:16 |
tumeninodes |
she cannot hold your hand through every step |
| 17:16 |
Johnnygag |
aww heck no |
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Johnnygag |
that was i first time contacting her also |
| 17:16 |
twoelk |
Johnnygag: what computer operating system are you on? |
| 17:16 |
Johnnygag |
Windows 7 64bit |
| 17:17 |
Shara |
Johnnygag: You should realise it's not easy to help people... Most server owners and mod writers are getting asked by several people for help every day |
| 17:17 |
twoelk |
goto paintbrush and make pixel pictures that fit into a 32 by 32 grid |
| 17:17 |
Johnnygag |
couldnt i find a picture online? |
| 17:18 |
twoelk |
I could give you many fotos of nice restaurants |
| 17:18 |
Johnnygag |
ok |
| 17:18 |
twoelk |
that is of little help |
| 17:18 |
VanessaE |
Johnnygag: I started by trying to help you, and you kept resisting even so much as pastebin'ing your debug.txt. I have a limited amount of patience for people who won't follow my instructions when they're asking me for help. |
| 17:18 |
Johnnygag |
vanessa i was trying to find out how to do it i was NOT Resisting |
| 17:19 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 17:19 |
VanessaE |
the channel logs disagree with you. |
| 17:19 |
Johnnygag |
Fine |
| 17:19 |
tumeninodes |
never badmouth someone who tried to help you |
| 17:20 |
VanessaE |
you can be sure, Johnnygag, that I will not go out of my way to offer you any further help. you have problems? google it. I'm done. |
| 17:20 |
* VanessaE |
wanders off |
| 17:21 |
Johnnygag |
i Dont Have Problems! |
| 17:22 |
tumeninodes |
omg, she means "problems" with a mod, etc. |
| 17:22 |
twoelk |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9939 you could play with this |
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tumeninodes |
<--- is off for a tea and a soothing pipe. this way ----> |
| 17:24 |
Johnnygag |
Tumen no my mods are fine i was asking if someone could make me an MOD |
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| 17:25 |
Johnnygag |
im Not coming her for help ANYMore |
| 17:25 |
Brackston |
Johnnygag people are leaving you because you do not understand that we are here to contribute and help others not the work for free. |
| 17:25 |
Brackston |
You have not shown patience,nor respect |
| 17:25 |
Johnnygag |
no one here ic Nice! |
| 17:26 |
Johnnygag |
>:( |
| 17:26 |
Johnnygag |
now i wont |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
;op |
| 17:26 |
Brackston |
(children!) |
| 17:26 |
Brackston |
Hi VanessaE |
| 17:26 |
Johnnygag |
I Asked kindly if someone could make me an mod thats it |
| 17:26 |
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Johnnygag was kicked by VanessaE: no, you won't |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
hi Brackston |
| 17:27 |
Brackston |
Hahaaha, VanessaE You just made my day! |
| 17:27 |
Shara |
:) |
| 17:27 |
Emerald2 |
Woohoo I found dynamodan! |
| 17:27 |
Shara |
Hi Brackston, didn't see you there |
| 17:27 |
Brackston |
I have been following that cry baby since yesterday. |
| 17:27 |
Brackston |
Hey Shara! |
| 17:27 |
Brackston |
I snuck in through the back door |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
I have my limits, and that dickhead exceeded them, in spades. |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
wait what? |
| 17:28 |
* VanessaE |
runs over and locks the back door |
| 17:28 |
Brackston |
LOL he sure did..no respect |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
all right which one of you twits left that door open? |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 17:28 |
Shara |
VanessaE: better check the windows too. Our Brackston is sneaky! |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
I don't do windows :P |
| 17:28 |
Brackston |
Teleport |
| 17:28 |
Shara |
:D |
| 17:28 |
Brackston |
hahaha |
| 17:29 |
twoelk |
nevertheless a nice restaurant mod has been requested before - must I run and hide now? |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: quite the opposite, you need to get back on my servers and play again :) |
| 17:30 |
Brackston |
If we ever see one, it will probably be another great mod by VanessaE (Honesty...not blowing smoke) |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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twoelk |
ha, I was on ves just a day ago or so |
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VanessaE |
twoelk: oh ok, then I withdraw the comment :) |
| 17:31 |
twoelk |
had a look at the quarys by Flitzpiepe |
| 17:32 |
twoelk |
and noticed cheapi built a foodprocessing factory on my wheat field :-D |
| 17:32 |
twoelk |
might have been the last farm so near to spawn ;-) |
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tumeninodes |
hey?! who locked the door? |
| 17:44 |
tumeninodes |
hi bigfoot |
| 17:44 |
tumeninodes |
nvm :P |
| 17:46 |
tumeninodes |
howdy |
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Lone_Wolf |
hi! |
| 17:48 |
tumeninodes |
hola |
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christel |
hiya Lone_Wolf (and hi Kelticfox *waves*) |
| 17:48 |
* Kelticfox |
waves |
| 17:48 |
tumeninodes |
Hi sofar |
| 17:49 |
Lone_Wolf |
How do I veiw the logs/history? xD |
| 17:49 |
tumeninodes |
with perspective |
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red-001 |
wow |
| 17:49 |
red-001 |
hi sofar |
| 17:49 |
Lone_Wolf |
hi red! |
| 17:49 |
red-001 |
long time no see |
| 17:50 |
tumeninodes |
everyone has been missing sofar |
| 17:50 |
* Kelticfox |
cannot imagine why... |
| 17:50 |
tumeninodes |
? |
| 17:51 |
tumeninodes |
hey red-001 |
| 17:52 |
Lone_Wolf |
Was anyone on when VannesaE supposedly 'mouthed off' at JohnnyGage? I don't believe even though I've never met her... |
| 17:52 |
Out`Of`Control |
anyone could create a mod that forces mod X load as last |
| 17:53 |
* VanessaE |
looks at Lone_Wolf |
| 17:53 |
tumeninodes |
Lone_Wolf: RUN! |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
JohnnyGage was just being a petulant child |
| 17:53 |
Out`Of`Control |
playing with depends.txt did not help |
| 17:54 |
tumeninodes |
Johnnygag is very impatient |
| 17:54 |
tumeninodes |
hi VanessaE |
| 17:54 |
Out`Of`Control |
Lone_Wolf: did you read title? |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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| 17:56 |
twoelk |
he just wants cookies and not a cookbook about baking them himself :-D |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
yep, and he wants the book read to him and translated into 2nd grade english in the process |
| 17:57 |
tumeninodes |
might get poisoned cookies |
| 17:57 |
BeBo46100 |
Ummm No i Dont |
| 17:57 |
twoelk |
carefull there he might very well be 2nd grade age |
| 17:57 |
BeBo46100 |
dude im not an child |
| 17:58 |
tumeninodes |
my, how crafty of you |
| 17:58 |
twoelk |
not from what we heard |
| 17:58 |
BeBo46100 |
i am not petulant either |
| 17:59 |
tumeninodes |
and... coming back under a new name doesn't make it worse because...... |
| 17:59 |
BeBo46100 |
tumen i know |
| 17:59 |
twoelk |
so you made a list of objects needed, thought out some techtree, made some models and designed some textures? |
| 17:59 |
BeBo46100 |
... i dont know how to design textures models or mods |
| 18:00 |
tumeninodes |
uh oh |
| 18:00 |
BeBo46100 |
you guys have i havent |
| 18:00 |
Out`Of`Control |
twoelk: why if you can ask someone to do that.... |
| 18:00 |
BeBo46100 |
thats why i want help |
| 18:00 |
Out`Of`Control |
BeBo46100: is there anything you can do beside asking for? |
| 18:00 |
twoelk |
there is a plate in homedecor, you could add some more dish variants easily to that |
| 18:01 |
twoelk |
you could start with a list of objects you miss |
| 18:01 |
BeBo46100 |
i i mainly wanted restaurant carpet & Soda dispenser & bench |
| 18:01 |
BeBo46100 |
sorry two i's |
| 18:01 |
tumeninodes |
tries to think of the easiest mod they could start with for learning |
| 18:01 |
twoelk |
why a new bench, there are allready many |
| 18:01 |
tumeninodes |
and a soda vending machine |
| 18:01 |
BeBo46100 |
no the Botths |
| 18:01 |
BeBo46100 |
Booths |
| 18:02 |
BeBo46100 |
those big booth benchs |
| 18:02 |
BeBo46100 |
at restaurants |
| 18:02 |
Brackston |
a diner |
| 18:02 |
twoelk |
hm, the last benches I sat in an restaurant on where extra long rustic wooden ones |
| 18:03 |
BeBo46100 |
Brackston yes |
| 18:03 |
twoelk |
ah, a diner is a good hint |
| 18:03 |
Brackston |
twoelk a brauhaus? |
| 18:03 |
twoelk |
sortof |
| 18:03 |
tumeninodes |
this is why I suggested you make a post at https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=2434 |
| 18:03 |
BeBo46100 |
twoelk what restaurant were you In!? XD |
| 18:03 |
Lone_Wolf_ |
Hiya Fixer! |
| 18:03 |
Lone_Wolf_ |
oh xD |
| 18:03 |
twoelk |
schiffergesellschaft |
| 18:03 |
BeBo46100 |
??? |
| 18:03 |
MinetestBot |
[git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest: Add Arm Inertia (#6050) 1d1d922 https://git.io/vQGf3 (2017-06-26T18:03:48Z) |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
holy shit |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
I honestly didn't expect that to get merged. |
| 18:04 |
Lone_Wolf_ |
What was that? |
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Brackston |
Good link tumeninodes, BeBo46100 go there and explain you idea well...maybe someone will pick it up and you are on your way. |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
something that's about to be force-pushed out :-/ |
| 18:04 |
Lone_Wolf_ |
I'm new to IRC sorry |
| 18:05 |
tumeninodes |
I was thrilled to see the recent water walking sound from juhnadad merged so quickly |
| 18:05 |
tumeninodes |
trivial, but it was quick |
| 18:05 |
Lone_Wolf_ |
Arm inertia was added to the next minetest update? |
| 18:06 |
tumeninodes |
I thought inertia was a bad thing? 0_o |
| 18:06 |
twoelk |
old pic of schiffergesellschaft https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7144/6582541881_1e064e49e3_b.jpg |
| 18:06 |
tumeninodes |
Define inertia: lack of movement or activity especially when movement or activity is wanted or needed ? |
| 18:07 |
tumeninodes |
maybe kilbith's PR is actually anti-inertia? :P |
| 18:08 |
BeBo46100 |
tumen https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrTcYJNTVFZy1sAOF02nIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTIzbDU3b2E5BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAM2MDUzMWQzMGMxNTExOTA0NGRiNzljMTllZGY1ZDU2NwRncG9zAzExBGl0A2Jpbmc-?.origin=&back=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.avira.net%2F%23images%2Fresult%3Fq%3Dsoda%2Bdispenser&w=450&h=535&imgurl=www.sodadispenserdepot.com%2Fpics%2Fsoda-fountain-542b.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sodadispenserdepot.com%2Fpics%2Fsoda-fountain-542 |
| 18:08 |
BeBo46100 |
click link |
| 18:08 |
tumeninodes |
<--- has motivation inertia |
| 18:09 |
tumeninodes |
I'm not clickin' anything... :P I already know what you meant, a soda fountain |
| 18:09 |
Lone_Wolf_ |
What does the arm inertia do? 6o_o |
| 18:09 |
red-001 |
magic |
| 18:09 |
tumeninodes |
like soda..., on tap |
| 18:09 |
BeBo46100 |
who do i post to on forum for this mod? |
| 18:09 |
tumeninodes |
so now the arm will show when clicking? |
| 18:10 |
tumeninodes |
to no one..., just make a post |
| 18:11 |
tumeninodes |
you just put the idea out there. If it catches someone's interest, they will respond. If not, you will need to learn, and ask for help. |
| 18:11 |
BeBo46100 |
i dont see an post button at forums |
| 18:11 |
tumeninodes |
But help is not instantaneous |
| 18:11 |
tumeninodes |
there is a button which reads "New Topic' |
| 18:13 |
BeBo46100 |
no button that says new topic |
| 18:13 |
MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Isolate irrlicht references and use a singleton (#6041) b3a36f7 https://git.io/vQGU1 (2017-06-26T18:11:17Z) |
| 18:13 |
MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix Camera::add_arm_inertia -> addArmInertia a8650e7 https://git.io/vQGUM (2017-06-26T18:10:11Z) |
| 18:15 |
tumeninodes |
"post reply" |
| 18:15 |
tumeninodes |
my bad |
| 18:29 |
* lumidify |
is still wondering why new versions of MT only abort on OpenBSD... |
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jcalve |
to me it only aborts on /shutdown so it's not really a problem |
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| 18:39 |
Kelticfox |
who develops Minetest? |
| 18:39 |
sofar |
various people - it's open source so contributions come from many people |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
lots of people do. |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
a collection of lunatics. :P |
| 18:40 |
sofar |
there's at least 50+ people who have written code for it |
| 18:40 |
Kelticfox |
haha, okay more directed question, who's in charge of the community here besides VanessaE? |
| 18:40 |
VanessaE |
I am not in charge of anything. |
| 18:40 |
sofar |
nobody in particular - we all take care of it together |
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Jordach |
GreenDimond, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJDNkVDGM_s |
| 18:52 |
GreenDimond |
Jordach: o-o |
| 18:52 |
twoelk |
haha, >Bring me to your leader!< doesn't work well here |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
GreenDimond, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&p=279919#p279919 |
| 18:53 |
GreenDimond |
Jordach: Noice render m8. |
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Jordach |
it's more about the technology |
| 18:54 |
BeBo46100 |
Greendimond does making an mod use a certain rpogram? |
| 18:54 |
Guest54205 |
no -_- |
| 18:54 |
Guest54205 |
how to change name without a relog? |
| 18:54 |
GreenDimond |
BeBo46100, you lost my help a while ago. |
| 18:54 |
BeBo46100 |
i lost everyones i know |
| 18:55 |
Lone_Wolf |
Yay! xD |
| 18:55 |
BeBo46100 |
but i havent lost my actual friends help |
| 18:55 |
Lone_Wolf |
I got it now... |
| 18:56 |
BeBo46100 |
maybe this world has loose screws |
| 18:56 |
BeBo46100 |
how do i quit? |
| 18:56 |
GreenDimond |
BeBo46100: Here is a step-by-step tutorial for all your questions: 1) Open your favorite web browser (ie. Firefox) 2) In the url bar, type www.google.com. 3) In the search box, type your desires. |
| 18:57 |
BeBo46100 |
omg! i cant mod even if i could i would mess it up |
| 18:58 |
BeBo46100 |
fixing PCS dvd players tvs is already hard |
| 18:58 |
GreenDimond |
BeBo46100: https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/index.html Knock yourself out. |
| 18:58 |
BeBo46100 |
i dont have an code editor... |
| 18:59 |
GreenDimond |
Jordach: Have you just gotten around to messing with materials in blender? |
| 18:59 |
GreenDimond |
BeBo46200: You just need a text editor. EVERY computer has one. I personally use Geany. |
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Jordach |
>messing around with materials |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
>built fucking PBR |
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Jordach |
https://jordach.net/Images/emoji/thinking.png |
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BeBo46100 |
ok sooo how do i start? |
| 19:00 |
GreenDimond |
Jordach: Ah so you are making your OWN shaders thing - nice! |
| 19:01 |
BeBo46100 |
GD |
| 19:01 |
GreenDimond |
BeBo46100: Go to your start menu and type in the search bar something like "text" or "mousepad". Do NOT use "notes" |
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BeBo46100 |
And? |
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jcalve |
I'm surprised by everyone's patience with trolls here |
| 19:01 |
GreenDimond |
click the thing that comes up. |
| 19:02 |
GreenDimond |
I'm surprised at my own patience. |
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BeBo46100 |
notepad? |
| 19:02 |
GreenDimond |
Yeah sure good enough BeBo46100. |
| 19:02 |
BeBo46100 |
next? |
| 19:02 |
GreenDimond |
But later you might want something like Notepad++ |
| 19:02 |
Lone_Wolf |
I think I have plain notepad xD |
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BeBo46100 |
whats next step? |
| 19:03 |
Lone_Wolf |
How good is OpenOffice GD> |
| 19:03 |
BeBo46100 |
lol |
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Lone_Wolf |
*? |
| 19:03 |
GreenDimond |
Is it open, BeBo46100? |
| 19:03 |
GreenDimond |
LW: NO. |
| 19:03 |
BeBo46100 |
yes |
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Lone_Wolf |
kk xD |
| 19:04 |
Lone_Wolf |
Could you PM me my skin in the forums when you have the time? No rush... |
| 19:04 |
GreenDimond |
BeBo46100, now code stuff. Then save whatever you code to an init.lua and put it in a folder that is your mod. Then add a depends.txt and a textures folder and all that stuff. Then put it in your mods folder and try it out. It takes time and patience to code and test. |
| 19:04 |
BeBo46100 |
gd whats Next? |
| 19:04 |
BeBo46100 |
tcode stuff? |
| 19:04 |
GreenDimond |
Lone_Wolf, didn't you already post your skin on the Hometown topic? |
| 19:05 |
BeBo46100 |
first i need to make the items i want tho |
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| 19:05 |
GreenDimond |
? |
| 19:05 |
GreenDimond |
You trying to ping the whole damn IRC? |
| 19:06 |
BeBo46100 |
i need to use an sand pixel program to make the carpet booths dispenser & table |
| 19:06 |
GreenDimond |
BeBo46100, you mean you need to make textures? |
| 19:06 |
BeBo46100 |
yea |
| 19:06 |
GreenDimond |
I would suggest downloading GIMP https://www.gimp.org/ |
| 19:07 |
BeBo46100 |
my design will hopefully not suck XD |
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Lone_Wolf |
GD I need a MT converted one xD |
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Lone_Wolf |
gtg |
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BeBo46100 |
gd? |
| 19:09 |
GreenDimond |
Yes BeBo46100? |
| 19:10 |
BeBo46100 |
just wondering if you were still there |
| 19:11 |
GreenDimond |
Not a good reason to ping me :/ |
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BeBo46100 |
if i use an image online can i copy it to gimp & tell it to make it sand pixel? |
| 19:12 |
GreenDimond |
Yes, there are ways to make it pixelize things. But please, use Google. Don't ask here. |
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BeBo46100 |
i ask here if it works not to serach lol |
| 19:12 |
GreenDimond |
If you can't find it on Google, you aren't doing it right. |
| 19:13 |
BeBo46100 |
find what? |
| 19:13 |
GreenDimond |
How to use GIMP. |
| 19:13 |
BeBo46100 |
oh |
| 19:13 |
BeBo46100 |
i've heard of it but never used it |
| 19:14 |
GreenDimond |
It's easy to use once you get used to it. |
| 19:14 |
BeBo46100 |
ye |
| 19:15 |
BeBo46100 |
yea* |
| 19:16 |
BeBo46100 |
gimp startup currently is looking for data files |
| 19:17 |
GreenDimond |
It will take a while to load for the first time. |
| 19:18 |
BeBo46100 |
ok its up next? |
| 19:18 |
GreenDimond |
Google it. |
| 19:21 |
twoelk |
actually BeBo46100, you might better start with paintbrush that should be in your windows. just zoom in until you see the grid for individual pixels and then click each pixel the color you want |
| 19:21 |
twoelk |
the basic textures are 16*16 or 32*32 pixels |
| 19:21 |
GreenDimond |
twoelk: Pencil is better for that, |
| 19:22 |
twoelk |
yeah, havent got a pencil to pixel translater yet though (except for my eye-hand combination of course) |
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BeBo46100 |
Twoelk i can copy an image into paint couldnt i? |
| 19:23 |
twoelk |
easily |
| 19:25 |
GreenDimond |
ARG How to use url -I https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/6015.patch | git am properly? |
| 19:25 |
GreenDimond |
*curl |
| 19:26 |
BeBo46100 |
i have image in paint how do i pixel it? |
| 19:26 |
GreenDimond |
bigfoot547, *ahem* https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6015 |
| 19:27 |
GreenDimond |
but that is what I used |
| 19:27 |
BeBo46100 |
Gd |
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twoelk |
it is in pixels, you have to adjust the resolution |
| 19:28 |
BeBo46100 |
how? |
| 19:29 |
GreenDimond |
curl -I https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6015.patch | git am gives error "Patch is empty. Was it split wrong?" |
| 19:29 |
twoelk |
might be caled change size or canvas |
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twoelk |
under the start tab in the ribbon second set of tools |
| 19:30 |
GreenDimond |
Meh. I give up. |
| 19:30 |
GreenDimond |
I have no patience today, |
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GreenDimond |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/24958152/ |
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BeBo46100 |
Twoelk i dont see canvas only see size which is in Percentage & Pixel's |
| 19:32 |
GreenDimond |
bigfoot547, looks like doing -L works. |
| 19:33 |
twoelk |
yeah, sorry mine is in german, don't know the exact english menu text by heart |
| 19:34 |
GreenDimond |
bigfoot547, nevermind. Still dunno. |
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BeBo46100 |
Gd How Do i Do This In GIMP? |
| 19:35 |
GreenDimond |
Google it. |
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BeBo46100 |
Gd once i pixelize it what next? |
| 19:38 |
GreenDimond |
Look at Rubenwardy's Modding Tutorial https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/index.html |
| 19:43 |
twoelk |
use Rubenwardy's book to create a node that vis very flat and point the code to youre texture |
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BeBo46100 |
this is complicated |
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BeBo46100 |
well im off to watch G.I Joe |
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AntumDeluge |
I have a couple problems with a mod. I extracted the slingshot from AiTechEye's 'hook' mod (https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13634). |
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AntumDeluge |
The first problem is that when an entity is killed with the slingshot, it does not drop any items that it normally would from death. |
| 21:00 |
AntumDeluge |
The second problem is that entities do not register as being attacked when hit with an item thrown by the slingshot. This seems to be the case with bows & arrows from the 'throwing' mod as well. |
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AntumDeluge |
The GitHub repo is here: https://github.com/AntumMT/mod-slingshot |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix undefined behaviour in arm movement when dividing by zero 53a6b54 https://git.io/vQGoa (2017-06-26T21:22:42Z) |
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BeBo46100 |
Octacian? |
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octacian |
BeBo46100: Yes? |
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