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Fixer |
LazyJ: https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/16494741/20037975/d0f8a2e2-a433-11e6-9bc5-427e03b3f6ed.png |
| 00:00 |
LazyJ |
I see a discussion on Github about adding growlamps and making meselamps cheaper. |
| 00:00 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/16494741/20037973/d0f505b0-a433-11e6-8ec3-a118c2a8b320.png |
| 00:00 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/16494741/20037974/d0f8567a-a433-11e6-81a3-69908ed761d6.png |
| 00:00 |
LazyJ |
Due in part to growing things underground. |
| 00:00 |
Fixer |
thats LinuxGaming2 |
| 00:00 |
LazyJ |
Heh. Now LG is famous. :)- |
| 00:01 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: as a rule of thumb - stuff up to -15 will be rendered iirc (and sometimes even to -31) |
| 00:01 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: thats not a lot actually |
| 00:01 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: worst case - https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/16494741/20037976/d0f9e404-a433-11e6-956e-f479d09d083e.png |
| 00:01 |
Fixer |
now that is insanely slow |
| 00:01 |
Fixer |
because |
| 00:02 |
LazyJ |
-15 is still within build specs for basements and cellars. |
| 00:02 |
Fixer |
you have 1 thick layer of stone above water |
| 00:02 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: cities are slow to render, unfortunately |
| 00:02 |
Fixer |
big water cities/big-spawns are worst |
| 00:03 |
LazyJ |
Would rendering be such an issue if more of it were pushed off to the video card to handle? |
| 00:03 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: problem is occlusion culling |
| 00:03 |
LazyJ |
But then that gets into proprietary drivers and multitudes of makes. |
| 00:03 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: algorithm to decide what parts to render or not |
| 00:04 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: right now it works on 16x16x16 block basis (per mapblock) |
| 00:04 |
Fixer |
if it meets certain criteria - it is hidden and will not be rendered |
| 00:04 |
Fixer |
cpu used to decide what to draw and videocard - draws the things iirc |
| 00:05 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: there is workaround |
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Fixer |
LazyJ: make a new spawn somewhere in suburbs ;) |
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LazyJ |
Nah, I like frustrating the app-kids into leaving after only five seconds. :) |
| 00:06 |
Fixer |
lol |
| 00:06 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: you can use this wireframe mode yourself if you have mt 0.4.15 and debug privb |
| 00:07 |
Fixer |
just to see hoooooooooooow much stuff is rendered without need |
| 00:07 |
rubenwardy |
or a modified client |
| 00:07 |
LazyJ |
I've toyed with it. |
| 00:07 |
Fixer |
I use modified client %) |
| 00:07 |
Fixer |
for testing only |
| 00:07 |
Fixer |
no cheating |
| 00:07 |
Fixer |
i will show you just test spawn, from my local copy |
| 00:07 |
LazyJ |
Before that was possible, I used a custom texture pack that was basically glass for everything. |
| 00:07 |
Fixer |
insanely complex |
| 00:09 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: https://i.imgur.com/5Rf2QS8.jpg |
| 00:10 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: water city spawn "underground" - https://i.imgur.com/no6hrHn.jpg |
| 00:11 |
Fixer |
LazyJ: side view: https://i.imgur.com/Jxg567C.jpg |
| 00:11 |
Fixer |
and that is 2.26+E06 vertices drawn |
| 00:11 |
Fixer |
Carl |
| 00:12 |
Fixer |
in simple scenes it can be 0.3+E06 iirc |
| 00:12 |
rubenwardy |
Is gtest fixer? |
| 00:12 |
Fixer |
NO |
| 00:12 |
Fixer |
i play under my irc name |
| 00:13 |
Fixer |
lesson? don't build water city spawn %) |
| 00:14 |
Fixer |
protect the shit out of it |
| 00:16 |
Fixer |
water city gives you illusion of solidness... but it draws everything to the sea button and beyong |
| 00:17 |
Fixer |
g=d |
| 00:17 |
Fixer |
beyound |
| 00:17 |
Fixer |
beyond |
| 00:17 |
Fixer |
nevermind |
| 00:18 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: LinuxGaming2 has quite big city |
| 00:18 |
rubenwardy |
it's massive |
| 00:18 |
rubenwardy |
like 5x RedCrab |
| 00:18 |
rubenwardy |
the spawn anyway |
| 00:18 |
Fixer |
when mt was less efficient with memory my usual mem usage was 6GB... |
| 00:18 |
Fixer |
now it is 1-2gb |
| 00:19 |
Fixer |
which is amazing, somebody did great job optimising that aspect |
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whitephoenix |
http://i.imgur.com/AeEdUXT.png |
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DI3HARD139 |
Is it possible to regenerate portions of a map? |
| 02:34 |
exio4 |
hai |
| 02:34 |
DI3HARD139 |
hello |
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| 02:37 |
chainsaw10 |
Anyone know the implications of increasing the option "max_objects_per_block" from its default value of 49 (IIRC)? I run a small server for my family, and someone's putting too many horses in one mapblock, and the server's deleting them all. |
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chainsaw10 |
I'm considering increasing it for them, but I want to make sure there's no performance or such reasons not to change it first. |
| 02:38 |
DI3HARD139 |
Depends on the hardware the server is running on. I would bump it up if its a local server and see if the hardware can handle it. |
| 02:38 |
DI3HARD139 |
Thats generally only used for public servers where # of players can be excessive and eat bandwidth |
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| 02:40 |
chainsaw10 |
It's a 512MB DO droplet :) It's a small server. I'll likely increase it and see what happens, as you suggested. I just find it somewhat strange that the server's default behavior is to delete all objects in a block if you add one more than the limit. |
| 02:40 |
chainsaw10 |
Thanks DI3HARD139 |
| 02:45 |
DI3HARD139 |
To be honest I have never had an issue with that. I would make sure to run /clearobjects once in awhile to clean up any invisible strays |
| 02:46 |
chainsaw10 |
Do you happen to know exactly what is considered an "object"? Is it just mobs, or are things like signs and flowers also considered objects? |
| 02:47 |
whitephoenix |
signs and flowers are nodes |
| 02:47 |
DI3HARD139 |
From what i've observed, The term "Object" is refering to dynamic objects. So ones that can move on their own |
| 02:47 |
DI3HARD139 |
Mostly mobs or dropped nodes. Dropped nodes can inclide apples, torches, fences etc. |
| 02:47 |
DI3HARD139 |
include* |
| 02:49 |
chainsaw10 |
ok, that confirms what I thought about signs/flowers. I think you folks have it right. Thanks! |
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| 03:00 |
DI3HARD139 |
np |
| 03:08 |
kaeza |
just in case, mods like signs_lib do implement the visible text on signs as an "object" or "entity", so /clearobject does delete the visible text |
| 03:09 |
kaeza |
it should be restored by just punching the sign board, though |
| 03:09 |
kaeza |
also greetings :) |
| 03:11 |
chainsaw10 |
kaeza: nice to know, thanks. I'll keep that in mind. And greetings :) |
| 03:11 |
chainsaw10 |
pretty sure i've seen that before and had no idea why |
| 03:11 |
kaeza |
nice release notes sfan5 ( https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases ) |
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* Taose |
pokes head in |
| 03:42 |
Taose |
Is it me or is your website running at a snails pace? |
| 03:51 |
Taose |
>_> |
| 03:51 |
Taose |
As in REALLY DEAD |
| 03:51 |
Taose |
... |
| 03:51 |
kaeza |
silence please. some of us are trying to sleep :( |
| 03:53 |
kaeza |
I remember back in late 2012 or so when c55 hosted th forums "out of [his] shitty home connection" |
| 03:53 |
Taose |
X) |
| 03:53 |
Taose |
How many users did you have? |
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kaeza |
site was down every now and then, and when it wasn't it was slow as hell |
| 03:54 |
Taose |
Ouch |
| 03:54 |
kaeza |
IDK; I joined around that time :P |
| 03:55 |
kaeza |
but it was just a fraction as what there are now |
| 03:55 |
Taose |
heh |
| 03:55 |
Taose |
Right any ideas on which mods that I should load up? |
| 03:56 |
kaeza |
what are you looking for? |
| 03:56 |
Taose |
(I'm kinda a refugee from Terasology, my system HATES java and intellij) |
| 03:56 |
Taose |
Well |
| 03:56 |
Taose |
Stability really |
| 03:56 |
Taose |
>.> |
| 03:56 |
Taose |
Things that work |
| 03:56 |
kaeza |
i.e. what kind of gameplay do you like (survival, creative, adventure, something else?) |
| 03:56 |
Taose |
I have low standards. |
| 03:57 |
Taose |
I'm after a bit of a blend, not too heavy on the survival but not entirely creative either |
| 03:57 |
Taose |
I like sandbox too |
| 03:58 |
kaeza |
I'd say an *decor mod (homedecor, xdecor) is a must. if you are looking for some threats, try mobs redo |
| 04:00 |
Taose |
There appears to be three featured mobs |
| 04:00 |
Taose |
Animals Modpack, Creatures Mob Engine and Simple Mobs |
| 04:00 |
kaeza |
here's some stuff you may be interested in: http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php | https://github.com/minetest-mods | http://app-mtmm.rubenwardy.com/mods/ |
| 04:02 |
Taose |
Does MineTest download missing dependencies? |
| 04:02 |
kaeza |
not yet :/ |
| 04:03 |
Taose |
ah well |
| 04:03 |
Taose |
small price |
| 04:04 |
Taose |
... |
| 04:04 |
Taose |
interesting I seem to be missing default, stairs, flowers, doors... |
| 04:04 |
Taose |
and I can't find 'em anyway XD |
| 04:04 |
Taose |
anywhere* |
| 04:04 |
kaeza |
those should come with the "subgame" (e.g. minetest_game) |
| 04:06 |
Taose |
Ah well the game plays |
| 04:06 |
Taose |
...not so keen on these texture packs...though |
| 04:06 |
* Taose |
tries another |
| 04:07 |
* Taose |
looks at VanessaE I'm impressed |
| 04:07 |
* VanessaE |
hides |
| 04:07 |
Taose |
A little dark perhaps a touch sharp...but nevertheless |
| 04:07 |
Taose |
vast improvement |
| 04:07 |
kaeza |
HDX has everything and the kitchen sink (quite literally, actually :P) |
| 04:07 |
VanessaE |
yep! :D |
| 04:08 |
Taose |
Contrast is a bit high I think |
| 04:08 |
Taose |
I really like so far |
| 04:08 |
Taose |
especially the flowing water |
| 04:10 |
Taose |
...does this one have a command console? |
| 04:10 |
Taose |
For ghosting for instance? |
| 04:11 |
kaeza |
you can type 't' or '/' (small console) or F10 (full console) |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
not sure what you mean by ghosting, but you can hit F10 for the command console |
| 04:12 |
Taose |
hmm |
| 04:12 |
Taose |
not many options to choose from |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
mods can define their own commands also |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
so there's not much really *needed* in a standard game |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
also make sure you're using minetest_game, not "minimal". |
| 04:13 |
Taose |
eh I'm trying to fly XD |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
/grant singleplayer all |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
then give it a try |
| 04:13 |
kaeza |
toggle with 'j' |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
after that, flying is toggled on/off by pressing 'k' |
| 04:14 |
kaeza |
or was that 'k' |
| 04:14 |
VanessaE |
'j' is fast :P |
| 04:14 |
kaeza |
oh :P |
| 04:14 |
Taose |
dunno but it's not doing anything |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
then you're doing it wrong :) |
| 04:16 |
Taose |
got it |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
see? :) |
| 04:16 |
kaeza |
!next |
| 04:16 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 04:16 |
Taose |
XD |
| 04:16 |
Taose |
Usually I'm used to just pressing forwards and pointing |
| 04:17 |
Taose |
Minetest requires jumping |
| 04:17 |
Taose |
and disables gravity |
| 04:17 |
Taose |
which achieves the same goal i guess |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
something like that |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
depends how you've configured the keys - for me, 'k' toggles fly, but I guess the default is double-space |
| 04:18 |
kaeza |
that's off by default IIRC |
| 04:18 |
Taose |
Dunno |
| 04:19 |
Taose |
all I know is space increases height |
| 04:19 |
Taose |
shift decreases |
| 04:19 |
kaeza |
also, shift is "descend", just in case you get trapped up there :P |
| 04:19 |
Taose |
XD |
| 04:20 |
kaeza |
or you could auto-accelerate downwards 9.8m/s² by pressing 'k' |
| 04:20 |
kaeza |
can't guarantee your safety, though |
| 04:21 |
Taose |
XD |
| 04:22 |
Taose |
...how does one break stone? |
| 04:22 |
whitephoenix |
pickaxe |
| 04:23 |
Taose |
yep |
| 04:23 |
Taose |
now |
| 04:23 |
Taose |
... |
| 04:23 |
Taose |
I have a stick |
| 04:23 |
Taose |
and a mushroom |
| 04:23 |
kaeza |
...mushroom pickaxe? |
| 04:23 |
Taose |
I had that very same idea |
| 04:23 |
Taose |
so I went to the crafting screen |
| 04:23 |
Taose |
minetest says no |
| 04:24 |
kaeza |
wood would be better suited to the task :P |
| 04:24 |
whitephoenix |
brb making mushroom tools mod |
| 04:24 |
kaeza |
but then, you can punch down trees anyway |
| 04:24 |
agaran |
make wodden pickaxe.. |
| 04:24 |
Taose |
lol |
| 04:24 |
Taose |
Well |
| 04:24 |
Taose |
I punched down a trea |
| 04:25 |
Taose |
and got some wood |
| 04:25 |
Taose |
turned those into planks |
| 04:25 |
Taose |
and some of those into sticks |
| 04:25 |
Taose |
and I really need to learn how to make torches |
| 04:25 |
kaeza |
three planks at top row, two sticks in the center column forming a 'T' |
| 04:26 |
Taose |
oooh |
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agrecascino |
Hijiri, hey you still exist |
| 04:35 |
Taose |
...pro tip |
| 04:36 |
Taose |
don't eat the mushrooms |
| 04:36 |
Taose |
okay |
| 04:36 |
Taose |
only eat some of the mushrooms |
| 04:37 |
* Taose |
is not a pro |
| 04:39 |
agaran |
Lol, some of them are unhealthy, right.. |
| 04:39 |
agaran |
but that depends on mods you have instaled, some mushrooms grow only near lava.. |
| 04:40 |
Taose |
o.O |
| 04:41 |
Taose |
a torch is apparently too much to ask |
| 04:41 |
agaran |
for torch you need coal |
| 04:41 |
Taose |
figures |
| 04:41 |
agaran |
to dig coal you need wodden pickaxe. |
| 04:41 |
Taose |
I have a stone one now |
| 04:42 |
agaran |
then better, dig some coal, make furnace, you will need it anyway |
| 04:43 |
agaran |
and you need either to walk some, to find some cracks in surface where stone can be seen on side, and look for coal there, or just dig down, which usually is simpler, beware, there are sometimes big caves.. not always safe to land there.. |
| 04:44 |
agaran |
sometimes river bottom also is stone, showing coal spots too, depends on modset realy and mapgen settings |
| 04:46 |
Taose |
hmmm |
| 04:46 |
Taose |
For the moment, I have a torch |
| 04:47 |
agaran |
depends on mods, you can cook wood to make charcoal which works quite well for torches too.. |
| 04:47 |
agaran |
but that requires furnace.. |
| 04:47 |
Taose |
can't cook anything at the moment |
| 04:47 |
agaran |
(8 cobblestones placed around grid, skipping center) |
| 04:49 |
Taose |
oooh |
| 04:49 |
Taose |
...I'm going to need more coal aren't |
| 04:50 |
Taose |
nope |
| 04:51 |
whitephoenix |
done https://github.com/whitephoenix0/minetest_mushroomtools |
| 04:51 |
Taose |
lmfao |
| 04:52 |
kaeza |
do they need Chlorophyte? |
| 04:52 |
kaeza |
to make Shroomite bars? |
| 04:52 |
whitephoenix |
oh thats a good idea |
| 04:52 |
whitephoenix |
might have to make a terraria tools mod next |
| 04:53 |
Taose |
I like that the only think I can seem to cook is stone |
| 04:54 |
agaran |
Taose: Hmm, depends what you have, you can cook sand to glass too |
| 04:55 |
kaeza |
if you somehow get wheat, you can also make flour, and cook it to make bread |
| 04:55 |
agaran |
then you can craft things out of stone, like stone stairs etc |
| 04:55 |
Taose |
apparently not |
| 04:55 |
Taose |
I've got wheat seed already |
| 04:55 |
whitephoenix |
I might just make a giant tools mod |
| 04:55 |
agaran |
both cobblestone, stone stairs. |
| 04:55 |
whitephoenix |
someone was saying I should do a tinker construct style thing |
| 04:55 |
agaran |
then you need hoe, water, and become farmer:) |
| 04:56 |
Taose |
oh... |
| 04:56 |
agaran |
you are playing in singleplayer or some server? |
| 04:56 |
Taose |
singleplayer |
| 04:56 |
Taose |
but I can join a server tomorrow |
| 04:58 |
kaeza |
whitephoenix, could probably add an SDMG to firearms mod :3 |
| 04:58 |
Taose |
So I just put the wheat on the tilled soil? |
| 04:59 |
whitephoenix |
I could even just make a terraria style game |
| 04:59 |
whitephoenix |
blood moons, mobs, tools, etc |
| 05:00 |
kaeza |
I tried to code that "evil biome" thingy, but ABMs are not very friendly |
| 05:00 |
agaran |
Taose, yes if there is water nearby.. within 3 nodes, otherwise it will not grow (and to move water around you need bucket, which usually need iron) |
| 05:03 |
Taose |
do we have archemedes screws? |
| 05:05 |
agaran |
nope, but I am sure that somebody -might- decide to make them.. |
| 05:06 |
agaran |
there is pipeworks mod with pumps and so on.. |
| 05:06 |
Taose |
That's a good alternative |
| 05:06 |
agaran |
well, when you have tme, try peeking on some servers, to see what can be done in MT.. |
| 05:07 |
agaran |
single is great to toy with stuff, develop mods etc, but to see mods without having them installed etc, finding right servers is best approach imo.. |
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agaran |
and then, you have few games aside of minetestgame, that is set of modules defining basic propeties of everything, like carbonne or grail_test or dungeontest.. |
| 05:09 |
Taose |
definitely something I think I can get a few onboard with to be fair |
| 05:10 |
kaeza |
whitephoenix, found the old code https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/tmp/rust.zip |
| 05:11 |
agaran |
Taose: mods arent hard to install, most of them at least.. |
| 05:11 |
Taose |
I'm not sure which mods are working and which are not at the moment |
| 05:11 |
Taose |
This thing doesn't tell me XD |
| 05:12 |
agaran |
when you return to game selection screen, with list of worlds you have generated on singleplayer |
| 05:12 |
agaran |
click on 'configure' |
| 05:12 |
agaran |
then you have list of mods you have on machine and you can enable/disable them |
| 05:13 |
agaran |
also there is /mods command that lists working mods within game (also on servers) |
| 05:13 |
kaeza |
whitephoenix, please don't test that in any remotely important world :P |
| 05:14 |
Taose |
broadly initial by the looks of things |
| 05:14 |
kaeza |
also needs some tweaking, particularly the ABM chance |
| 05:14 |
Taose |
None of the mods I downloaded have loaded |
| 05:15 |
agaran |
then none of them are in right directory to get recognized by minetest.. |
| 05:15 |
Taose |
minetest/mods |
| 05:15 |
Taose |
>.> |
| 05:15 |
Taose |
It's quite likely they don't have the dependencies |
| 05:16 |
agaran |
they need to be uncompresed, you know that? |
| 05:17 |
Taose |
yep |
| 05:17 |
Taose |
they were uncompressed |
| 05:18 |
kaeza |
Taose, try these steps: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5073 |
| 05:19 |
kaeza |
i.e. delete `debug.txt`, run your world, and see if it prints something there |
| 05:25 |
Taose |
Hahd to build underwater fort first |
| 05:25 |
Taose |
Well, I think I'll play around with the default for a while |
| 05:25 |
Taose |
I'm actually pretty impressed so far |
| 05:26 |
Taose |
Just so long as the blocks don't start scrambling on me |
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hmmmm |
Please note that for 2017 we have changed the company policy regarding sexual harassment. |
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hmmmm |
All #minetest employees must complete the sexual harassment training course by Mar 31, by watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUNXPFI6dYU |
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hmmmm |
(NSFW) |
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looks at VanessaE |
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Taose |
Might wanna update your content with some of that stuff from MoreBlocks |
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Taose |
Scratch that, it's Ethereal... |
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* Taose |
game spawns Taose on the edge of a cliff, no way up and a 60cube drop down. |
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Taose |
No pickaxe to cut through the stone. |
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Taose |
welp |
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minetester |
Anyone know any survival server where the spawn point isnt surrounded by a sprawling metropolis? Preferably one which doesn't allow much/any "modern" nodes? |
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Taose |
They exist? |
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minetester |
haha |
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Taose |
People are always going to build around the spawn points |
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Taose |
Only way around it is to randomize the spawn points more or less |
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Taose |
but that brings its own problems |
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minetester |
Well i guess it wouldn't be too bad if the "city" was build out of stone and logs and stuff |
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Taose |
lol |
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Taose |
Does it look like Hobbiton? |
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minetester |
rofl no |
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minetester |
something mediaeval looking i guess |
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Taose |
X) Well it's better than nothing |
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minetester |
its always a little funny to goto a "survival" server start in the middle of the city, and have to walk 2000 blocks before you can find somewhere relatively untouched. And probably half that to just find somewhere without protection. |
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Bukki |
It's a modern survival. :p Maybe harder then in nature if you have no cash for the shops and are hungry. |
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Zeno` |
anyone know how to make sure a node cannot be built to? |
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Zeno` |
nvm |
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kaeza |
build a non-buildable-to node over it |
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Zeno` |
hi kaeza |
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kaeza |
greetings Zeno` |
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jordan4ibanez |
Gettinga 504 on the forum |
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Getting a * |
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Minaetaest |
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rdococ |
1,1Minaecraeft? |
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jordan4ibanez |
rdococ: http://i.imgur.com/xYXmxOg.png?1 |
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rdococ |
haehae |
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* rdococ |
wonders if he should make all his multicolor potions a sine wave |
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rdococ |
do you advise using os.clock()? |
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rdococ: Only when doing performance testing or checking if it's a holiday or something |
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rdococ |
...why? |
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rdococ |
jordan4ibanez |
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rdococ: What else would you use it for? |
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rdococ |
potion effect? |
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jordan4ibanez |
rdococ: Why not use dtime? |
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rdococ |
dtime? |
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rdococ |
ok |
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jordan4ibanez |
Yes, dtime is the time between server steps, you can add it to a timer and then reset a value after the timer exceeds a certain integer or float |
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rdococ |
I know what dtime is |
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jordan4ibanez |
rdococ: http://pastie.org/10987159 A very basic example |
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rdococ |
I know |
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jordan4ibanez |
rdococ: What are you trying to do with your potion mod? |
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rdococ |
also the example doesn't work for me |
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rdococ |
not as in it doesn't function |
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rdococ |
but as in I can't get to it because the server seems to be down - or so CloudFlare says -.- |
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rdococ |
also, I'm trying to make POTIONS with my potion mod |
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rdococ |
duh |
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rdococ |
there are 4 singlecolor potions, and atm 4 multicolored ones |
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rdococ |
look |
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rdococ |
it's a pseudo noob |
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rdococ |
he's noob at being noob :p |
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minetester |
is there any mod which provides darker gravel? |
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minetester |
the default one is too bright |
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sfan5 |
why not just use a texture pack? |
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minetester |
for one texture? |
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sfan5 |
why not |
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juhdanad |
A texture pack can contain only one texture, the rest will be from default. |
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minetester |
ah |
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minetester |
anyone know a texture pack with darker gravel then? :P |
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sfan5 |
well you could take the default texture and just make it darker |
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nm0i |
[^colorize it! |
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* minetester |
goes on a search to find textures folder |
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sfan5 |
games/minetest_game/mods/default/textures/default_gravel.png |
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* minetester |
calls off search |
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minetester |
ty |
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* juhdanad |
Trying to implement colored nodes. Now all liquids are invisible. |
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juhdanad |
Whad did I do wrong? |
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agaran |
We don't know what you did, so how we can tell what you did wrong? |
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juhdanad |
I just thought it is a funny situation and will make your day a bit happier. |
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juhdanad |
Hi, Fixer! |
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Fixer |
hi |
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minetester |
hmmm making it just plain darker just looks weird |
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minetester |
oh well |
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juhdanad |
minetester: https://github.com/HybridDog/moss/blob/master/textures/moss_gravel_wet.png |
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juhdanad, oooh im liking that, ill give it a spin |
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minetester |
juhdanad, seems better than my attempt, although a little on the dark side... maybe i should just use plain dirt for my roads/paths |
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minetester |
seems like the easier solution, probably a bit more realistic to my game style too |
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minetester |
well i guess excepting that it'll probably re-grass at some point |
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[git] cheapie -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Properly handle rotation of buttons / levers 1bd936a https://git.io/vMqQE (2017-01-02T13:51:28Z) |
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luizsab |
Hello everyone. I have a doubt conceptual about aspen tree. Is it the same mencioned in wikipedia like aspen? Is the equivalent birch tree in minecraft? |
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sfan5 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populus_tremuloides |
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sfan5 |
sure looks like birch trees though |
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[git] DS-Minetest -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Make insulated cossover to mesh 7415036 https://git.io/vMq7O (2017-01-02T13:59:52Z) |
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luizsab |
sfan5: thank you for answer, so birch it's not same aspen. They are different types. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch |
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rubenwardy |
spam/vulgar post: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=16316&view=unread#unread |
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Krock |
^ Calinou |
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Krock |
reported it for advertising for a product.. I assume that's counted as a product too |
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Eyýyyyyyyyyyyy |
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Ey |
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Eyeyeyeyeyeyeyeeyeyeeyyeye6eeyeyeyee6yeeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeeyeyeyeyeyeeyeyeeyeyeeyeyeyeyeeyeyeyeyeyeye |
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whitephoenix |
I have no idea what to do for the assets license on this https://youtu.be/zD0KEqCR9F0 |
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[git] sfan5 -> Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit: Make //fixlight work again 92fe95f https://git.io/vMmIX (2017-01-02T18:03:21Z) |
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Calinou |
http://digitalpaint.org/ has pretty nifty death sounds too |
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Calinou |
most are memes ;) |
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Fixer |
Calinou: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1JllViWQAAd1L7.jpg:large |
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Krock |
"phew .. Bro, you can't do it like that" ^ |
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Krock |
(he looks like he'd say that) |
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whitephoenix |
I'm almost certain I can use the sounds, but I don't think I can license them can I? |
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[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest_game: Add LICENSE.txt 9ab5070 https://git.io/vMmqX (2017-01-02T18:38:36Z) |
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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: More generous meselamp recipe 42700a4 https://git.io/vMmq1 (2017-01-02T18:31:01Z) |
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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest_game: Papyrus, cactus: Require light level 13 for growth 8bc9359 https://git.io/vMmqM (2017-01-02T18:30:05Z) |
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Calinou |
whitephoenix: if you're not certain you can use them, you probably can't distribute them under any license... |
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jordan4ibanez |
octacian: I am here too |
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whitephoenix |
All clips are well under 7 seconds, so I think its fair use |
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octacian |
you are? |
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octacian |
ohk lol |
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octacian |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16319 |
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rdococ |
how do I use this wine? |
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octacian |
jordan4ibanez: check it out though, that's a mod I just made which should explain the interchangeable hand stuff. |
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Fixer |
replace inverse is broken? ._______. |
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jordan4ibanez |
octacian: that's really cool! |
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whitephoenix |
octacian, That's awesome. I might look into putting this into lord of the test |
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octacian |
thanks jordan4ibanez and whitephoenix |
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rdococ |
okay, I'm getting progress with wine |
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wants to see if he can connect to a server with spheretest |
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Krock |
rdococ, you can connect to any server since it's a local modification |
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Krock |
but regular players will see you jumping around |
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rdococ |
hm |
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rdococ |
yeah |
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rdococ |
maybe a server could host a spheretest world |
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rdococ |
sphere and all |
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rubenwardy |
jordan4ibanez, how much coffee do you drink? |
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rubenwardy |
your cool mods / time ratio has been fairly high recently |
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rubenwardy |
:D |
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Krock |
it's the ballmer peak, rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
ofc |
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rubenwardy |
you may find this interesting, jordan4ibanez: https://www.fxguide.com/featured/game-environments-partb/ |
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rubenwardy |
although that's going more into engine territory |
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jordan4ibanez |
rubenwardy: I didn't I'm way over tired |
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jordan4ibanez |
Thank you, I've had a lot of spare time |
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jordan4ibanez |
rubenwardy: I can't really find a lot of information that relates to minetest in there, it uses collision boxes for the terrain vs voxel stuff, but I think I've got something worked out. Thank you for showing me that regardless! |
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sfan5 |
btw |
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sfan5 |
this "open ai" mods is basically a complete mob modpack, correct? |
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jordan4ibanez |
sfan5: Yes, but it's not close to complete https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/open_ai/wiki I have many more things to do there, like uploading all the ideas I wrote down in my tablet |
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sfan5 |
it already sounds very advanced though |
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jordan4ibanez |
sfan5: The main thing I'd like to have in it, is the advanced chasing, which combines line of sight, pathfinding, and voxelmanip to pretty much force the player to fight with hostile mobs or get punched/blown up by them |
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jordan4ibanez |
sfan5: Also the builder mobs https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/open_ai/wiki/Theorizing-About-Structure which are villagers that spawn in a group and start to build a village that gets bigger with more villagers as time goes on |
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sfan5 |
*reads wiki page* |
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whitephoenix |
octacian, your hands mod is really nice, I just got done adding hands for races in lord of the test |
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octacian |
whitephoenix: cool! and thanks! |
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octacian |
I'm planning on adding a block too that let's you change your hand rather than just allowing via command. |
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Krock |
terrain generation from imported sound files. I wonder how that could be done :3 / brainstorm |
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Krock |
using soundwaves to generate hills |
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rubenwardy |
lol, literal noise |
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Krock |
the problem is the 2x 1D to 2D conversion |
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whitephoenix |
maybe you could do pitches = different blocks too |
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rubenwardy |
Please may someone who knows French have a look through https://github.com/minetest-mods/awards/pull/38 ? |
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nore |
rubenwardy: looking |
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jordan4ibanez |
rubenwardy: Does this page make any sense? https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/open_ai/wiki/How-To-Create-A-Mob |
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rubenwardy |
looks good |
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rubenwardy |
although your formatting's messed up |
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rubenwardy |
you should either tab in, or use ``` to format code snippets which aren't part of a sentence |
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jordan4ibanez |
How does it look for you? |
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jordan4ibanez |
Can you grab a screen shot? |
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sfan5 |
the example code is messed up |
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sfan5 |
use ``` if you want to make a full code block and not just one line |
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rubenwardy |
http://pasteboard.co/hmOdeukoG.png |
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rubenwardy |
http://pasteboard.co/hmOOQER6R.png |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Thomas--S -> minetest/minetest: Fix display gamma documentation 6718a95 https://git.io/vMm8i (2017-01-02T21:42:50Z) |
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freelikegnu |
jordan4ibanez: docs look nice.. |
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jordan4ibanez |
There it's fixed, thank you rubenwardy, sfan5, and freelikegnu |
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freelikegnu |
though no mention of jump_only |
| 21:49 |
freelikegnu |
and using the jump animation |
| 21:53 |
freelikegnu |
about builder mobs: "When the building is built, it should work as a mob spawner to spawn other mobs of the same type." What about of a spawning a mob of a specific type such as: house builder builds a house, house spawns a cook, cook makes a kitchen, house with kitch spawns a black smith, smith builds a forge... |
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jordan4ibanez |
freelikegnu: Updated all those, thank you |
| 21:59 |
freelikegnu |
reading forums it looks like parenting a player or mobs to a mobs bone is not working in MT |
| 21:59 |
rubenwardy |
? |
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rubenwardy |
parenting => pairing ? |
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jordan4ibanez |
attaching |
| 22:00 |
rubenwardy |
ah |
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freelikegnu |
alos bug reports: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/894 |
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freelikegnu |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4739 |
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freelikegnu |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12665&p=182685&hilit=attach+bone |
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nore |
rubenwardy: finished reviewing |
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nore |
took more time than I expected |
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freelikegnu |
jumping animation on ridable mob will look weird if the player or mob rinding it cannot move with a bone of the mesh during the animation cycle |
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rubenwardy |
thank you very much |
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nore |
you're welcome :) |
| 22:07 |
freelikegnu |
this is what i tried to do: https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/open_ai/issues/12 |
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freelikegnu |
but the player just stuck with the origin of the horse instead of moving with the body bone |
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freelikegnu |
jordan4ibanez: the spawning seems a bit much |
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freelikegnu |
there should be some kind of limitation on the likelyhood and number of a type of mod in some given area |
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jordan4ibanez |
Yeah it's debug for now |
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jordan4ibanez |
freelikegnu: I lowered it, should be all good now |
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whitephoenix |
I'm streaming minetest modding on a terrible laptop on terrible internet @ twitch.tv/whitephoenix0 if anyone is interested |
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