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IRC log for #minetest, 2016-08-31

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01:54 elite hi EmoKitty
01:54 EmoKitty Hi..
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02:01 IhrFussel agaran, http://pastebin.com/ckMpQNru
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03:17 agaran IhrFussel: wow, huge mapblocks too.. I'll talk when I am back from work
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03:42 paramat http://i.imgur.com/lH6mrAc.png modern road generator mod for mgv7 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=15430
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12:19 Jeija A new, more performant mesecons branch is available here: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/archive/voxelmanip.zip . It would be great if some of you could test it before the release!
12:20 Jordach i leave for three years and mesecons gets an update at last :D
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13:01 arecascino Hijiri:
13:01 arecascino is someone logged in on admin?
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14:33 Preuk hi
14:33 Preuk any plan to integrate websocket support to modding API?
14:35 sfan5 no
14:35 sfan5 how would that work anyway
14:36 sfan5 a websocket client like in js?
14:42 Preuk well... why not? we have http queries with callback
14:42 Preuk or a "raw" socket layer maybe
14:42 sfan5 there's lua libraries for that
14:43 sfan5 no need for minetest to implement it in core
14:43 Preuk hum... you mean i could just load net module in my lua script and it would work?
14:43 sfan5 (the HTTP stuff is only implemented because minetest uses curl anyway)
14:43 sfan5 yes
14:43 Preuk i feel stupid now -_-'
14:44 sfan5 you might need to whitelists mods somewhere though
14:44 sfan5 "mod security" prevents you from loading random stuff (that includes native libs)
14:44 Preuk ok
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16:06 Megaf folks, I get a lot of "<WARNING> 2016-08-31 13:05:06: [Server] Deprecated call to get_look_pitch, use get_look_vertical instead" on my server, anyone knows what's causing that?
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16:49 Volkj Megaf: the only result i got after a grep was in /usr/share/minetest/builtin/common/misc_helpers.lua , you can try a ' grep -ar "get_look_pitch" ' in your server's mod dir
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18:14 LionLAD Hey just a question, where is the default ore generation located in the default mod
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18:18 Krock LionLAD, mapgen.lua
18:18 LionLAD thought i looked there ill look again thanks
18:19 Krock or do grep on the whole directory and look out for .register_ore
18:20 LionLAD im looking at the code for thee generation its alot diffrent then how im spawning ores in my mod O.o
18:21 Krock are you doing it over register_ongenerated ?
18:21 LionLAD im spawning the by "minetest.register_on_generated"
18:22 Krock that's either a really old or customized way
18:22 LionLAD ima say really old haha
18:22 LionLAD its based of a mod i made a while ago maybe a few years
18:22 Krock then better switch it to minetest.register_ore because that's done in C++
18:23 LionLAD im not familiar with the new ore gen not sure how to go around swtiching it over
18:24 Krock you can either study the default code or check out the wiki article
18:24 LionLAD minetest.register_ore({ ore_type       = "scatter", ore            = "default:stone_with_mese", wherein        = "default:stone", clust_scarcity = 18 * 18 * 18, clust_num_ores = 3, clust_size     = 2, y_min          = -255, y_max          = -64, })
18:24 LionLAD oops
18:24 LionLAD ddint mean to copy that
18:24 Krock http://dev.minetest.net/ore
18:25 LionLAD i just ment to copy the " minetest.register_ore" part
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18:27 LionLAD so why does the ore gen have 2-4 diffrent  minetest.register_ore sections
18:28 LionLAD oh i see its setting diffrent sizes of clusters
18:28 LionLAD and how deep you for diffrent size clusters
18:33 LionLAD do i need put all the ores under a function?
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19:17 aix https://i.aix.ovh/49532.png
19:20 LionLAD would any one be able to help out with some ore generation issue im having?
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20:16 LionLAD any happen to be around that would be able to help with some  coding issues?
20:20 agaran LionLAD: maybe try ask specific question?
20:22 LionLAD well currently i'm re-developing an old mod i made so im updated all the code but im stuck on ore generation i cant  get it actuly generate any of the ores
20:23 LionLAD im using the newer minetest.register_ore fuction
20:23 LionLAD but its just not working
20:24 agaran hmm, can you show your code, (btw technic has working ore generator using register_ore, so you can peek there too)
20:24 LionLAD 1 sec up copy and paste into one of those text website
20:26 LionLAD https://justpaste.it/xwiv
20:26 LionLAD idk if that really helps see the code
20:27 agaran maybe you need to supply noise params?
20:28 agaran noise_params = {offset = 0, scale = 1, spread = {x = 100, y = 100, z = 100}, seed = 423, octaves = 3, persist = 0.7}, noise_threshhold = 0.3
20:28 agaran or sth like that?
20:28 LionLAD its new code to me im not used to it, i just figgerd out how to register the ores in that way not to sure how to set params
20:29 agaran sure, I just copied parameters from most common of ores in technic.. should be good to start with imo
20:29 LionLAD do you know where ore gen in technic is im searching threw the git
20:30 agaran if you define no noise then there may be no value that gets >0 to generate any ore, ye
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20:32 agaran https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic  and technic_worldgen/oregen.lua
20:32 LionLAD thanks
20:33 LionLAD oh i see whats done there alright
20:34 LionLAD hey btw what do seeds mean?
20:34 Calinou LionLAD: a seed is something that determines the result of a random computation
20:35 Calinou eg. if you generate a Minetest map with the seed "444" twice, you will get exactly the same map
20:35 LionLAD alrigth
20:35 agaran random numbers aren't exactly random.. they have are sort of sequence.. seed is used to determine initial state..
20:36 agaran thats why some uses require better entrophy than /dev/urandom..
20:36 LionLAD oh okay thanks
20:36 agaran but for map stuff in MT it is handy, copy seed for map and you can get exactly same map indefinitte amount of times..
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20:43 LionLAD so i read this
20:43 LionLAD "The NoiseParams table is mandatory for the sheet ore type, it can also be specified for the scatter type, if it is not specified ores will be distributed evenly."
20:43 LionLAD doesnt that mean i dont need them anyways
20:44 LionLAD and even with the noise perams its still not generating idk why
20:49 LionLAD YES!!!
20:49 LionLAD i figured it out finally haha
20:49 LionLAD ive been stuck on the ore gen for the past hour or 2
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20:53 LionLAD agaran: thanks for the help man
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21:06 LionLAD last question
21:07 LionLAD the higher number for clust_scarcity = more rare ores or less the rare
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23:54 Hijiri LionLAD: higher = less ores
23:54 Hijiri I think it's the reciprocal of the chance that one node has the ore generated
23:55 LionLAD haha thanks
23:55 LionLAD i figured it though

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