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Xello |
Hello |
| 00:01 |
Xello |
Is this a good place to ask questions about moding? |
| 00:01 |
Xello |
or would the developer channel be better |
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DonBatman |
Xello you can ask here |
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Xello |
does print() work in register_on_player_receive_fields. I am having a hard time verifying that execution gets there |
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DonBatman |
print() will print to the terminal window or to debug text |
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DonBatman |
It should work anywhere |
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Xello |
hmm that means that it's not getting called |
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Xello |
show_formspec should work right? |
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DonBatman |
Can you pastebin what you have and I can look? |
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DonBatman |
show_formspec works yes |
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Xello |
yes |
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Xello |
http://pastebin.com/qMYT2jZc |
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Xello |
sorry about the delay |
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Xello |
the form is showing |
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Xello |
when I press the button nothing happens |
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Xello |
server log thinks the button was pressed |
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Xello |
but it never makes it to the handler |
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DonBatman |
What happens if you remove the return nil on line 14 of pastebin |
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Xello |
no diffrence |
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DonBatman |
Might be the : in the form name |
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Xello |
Ill give it a test |
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Xello |
I removed the : |
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Xello |
no dic3e |
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Xello |
dice* |
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Xello |
still will not call the receive function |
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DonBatman |
here is an example from one of my mods |
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DonBatman |
https://github.com/DonBatman/myboardgames/blob/master/myuno/init.lua#L156 |
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DonBatman |
Maybe you can see the difference |
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DonBatman |
I am not seeing it but will keep looking |
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Xello |
ohhh |
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Xello |
you register it in the function |
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Xello |
Ill try that |
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Xello |
That was it |
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Xello |
I don't belive it |
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Xello |
I would expect it to work outside the function as well |
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Xello |
Thanks ssoo much DonBatman |
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DonBatman |
Awesome! |
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Volkj |
hi, not sure what i'm getting, but seem |
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Volkj |
seems that furnace keeps burning when it's dst inventory is full |
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Volkj |
opened a issue on minetest_game |
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nolsen |
https://nolsen.xyz/paste/?941fe053b7d76cf1#ZypY7kGLEevtF3YJR2ybkrvvASuop0ovZtqmDiD2AVk= |
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swift110-phone |
hey weedy |
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swift110-phone |
hey smugleaf i mean |
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yusf |
Is there a mod for "serverside" screenshot snapping? |
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yusf |
Probably not… |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Take Your Houseplant For A Walk Day! 😃 🌷 🌹 |
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Calinou |
how you should write code: https://github.com/Droogans/unmaintainable-code |
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Calinou |
https://github.com/Droogans/unmaintainable-code#obscure-film-references |
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nm0i |
Pff. Films. I met obscure russian classic reference with OblomovEyes instead of blue and SnowColor instead of red. |
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lordawe |
hello |
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Krock |
hi |
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nm0i |
hi |
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lordawe |
can somebody help me? I would like to play on VanessaE's creative-builder server daconcepts.com:30008 but I have troubles with client |
| 12:00 |
lordawe |
I have Latest sfan's dirty build for win64 but it gives me some serialization errors |
| 12:00 |
lordawe |
so I tried your's 32 bit build, Krock, and it works well, but there are some unknown blocks, and I do not know what I am doing wrong. |
| 12:01 |
lordawe |
Please. |
| 12:01 |
Krock |
if you get unknown blocks on a multiplayer server then it's not your fault |
| 12:02 |
Krock |
and for errors: Put them on pastebin so the error can be analyzed well |
| 12:02 |
lordawe |
I've couldn't get any recent info about rhis server |
| 12:03 |
Krock |
What information? I'm sure there's a topic on the forums for it |
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lordawe |
not for this one |
| 12:04 |
lordawe |
it is just mentioned in one post |
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lordawe |
http://pastebin.com/zRcm4NAn |
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lordawe |
it is your minetest_160727_c8b4bed_3.7z build |
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Krock |
lordawe, could you check if you get the same error on other servers? |
| 12:08 |
lordawe |
okay |
| 12:08 |
Krock |
also, are there more textures missing than just the ones from pine? |
| 12:09 |
lordawe |
I think no |
| 12:13 |
lordawe |
On another server it just says: |
| 12:13 |
lordawe |
2016-07-27 14:11:55: ERROR[Main]: Subgame specified in default_game [minetest] is invalid. |
| 12:13 |
lordawe |
2016-07-27 14:12:20: WARNING[Main]: Irrlicht: Could not open file of texture: character.png |
| 12:13 |
Krock |
ah I see |
| 12:14 |
Krock |
the first error is caused by the missing minetest_game, which is not included in my builds |
| 12:14 |
lordawe |
okay |
| 12:14 |
Krock |
and the 2nd one is the server's fault |
| 12:14 |
Krock |
(actually only a warning, can be ignored) |
| 12:15 |
lordawe |
I didn't know, I just tried your build because sfan's build gives me serialization errors |
| 12:16 |
Krock |
please paste these errors too |
| 12:16 |
lordawe |
okay |
| 12:19 |
lordawe |
http://pastebin.com/LcePmG5N |
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Krock |
kilbith found the same error a year ago: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2941 |
| 12:25 |
Krock |
and there seems to be no solution for it yet |
| 12:25 |
lordawe |
I see |
| 12:26 |
lordawe |
thank you Krock |
| 12:26 |
Krock |
np |
| 12:26 |
lordawe |
I have put minetest_game to your build already |
| 12:27 |
lordawe |
but @ daconcepts.com:30008 I see unknown block named streets:asphalt_side_r |
| 12:28 |
lordawe |
so this is not my fault, server is missing it? |
| 12:29 |
lordawe |
there is cmd: /streets |
| 12:29 |
lordawe |
it says: Runninf version: 1.4.4dev |
| 12:29 |
Krock |
yes, you could fix it by using your own texture pack but that's not the target |
| 12:29 |
lordawe |
digilines installed: false |
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lordawe |
mesecons installed: false |
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lordawe |
moreblock installed: false |
| 12:30 |
lordawe |
wool installed: true |
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Krock |
ehm okay? |
| 12:30 |
Krock |
That's again a server thing and not related to the client |
| 12:30 |
lordawe |
k |
| 12:30 |
lordawe |
thank you |
| 12:30 |
Krock |
because the server handles all textures and mods |
| 12:30 |
Krock |
np |
| 12:36 |
lordawe |
Krock, will you release 64 builds too? |
| 12:37 |
Krock |
lordawe, I haven't tried to compile them on my 32-bit OS yet.. I couldn't even test them, that's the thing :3 |
| 12:37 |
lordawe |
I thought it so |
| 12:37 |
lordawe |
nevermind |
| 12:38 |
lordawe |
you're dooing good job |
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lordawe |
thx |
| 12:38 |
Krock |
nowadays everybody has like 20 GB RAM so using a 32-bit build doens't hurt :P |
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* agaran |
does not have 20GB ram ;) |
| 12:38 |
Krock |
^ 32 GB |
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agaran |
well no, in private machines far less.. in work things.. even 256G.. |
| 12:39 |
lordawe |
Just 16/8 GB |
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Krock |
yeah, there are server monsters around with a TiB of RAM.. that's crazy |
| 12:40 |
agaran |
Krock: ones we have have 1.5T limit, but that reqire to populate both cpu slots.. |
| 12:40 |
agaran |
otherwise only 768G |
| 12:40 |
Krock |
"only" |
| 12:41 |
agaran |
yup.. though one memleak we had issues with was worth of >60G of mem so.. |
| 12:41 |
agaran |
no minetest there tho.. |
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lordawe |
where are you playing, guys |
| 12:41 |
Krock |
It's the pointers fault! |
| 12:42 |
agaran |
Krock: even worse, :) but it is (should be) fixed now |
| 12:42 |
Krock |
uh.. I'm not playing frequently |
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lordawe |
neither do I |
| 12:42 |
agaran |
anyone can suggest me what I can do aside of logging off, on Megaf server if I am stuck in some hole, and now realized that I don't have 'interact' privilege even? |
| 12:42 |
Krock |
agaran, what's worse than pointer? a pointer array? |
| 12:43 |
Krock |
edit the client source code to grant you fly and noclip |
| 12:43 |
agaran |
Krock: somebody forgot to add free() equivalent on small piece of data moved between threads.. but when they move hundreds of thousands of slices.. |
| 12:43 |
lordawe |
ask somebody to help you get out |
| 12:43 |
agaran |
Krock: well not going to fiddle with source for that, rather look for other server :) and seek for help later |
| 12:44 |
Krock |
agaran, uh yes.. even small pieces can cause a huge memory use by not deleting them :< |
| 12:45 |
agaran |
yup.. |
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agaran |
and if it bleeds only few kb per minute it is hard to find |
| 12:51 |
agaran |
lordawe: now I am just browsing servers etc, before I return to fixng own code |
| 12:52 |
lordawe |
I like to play on linuxgaming2.com server, because it has some nice tweaks and is family safe |
| 12:52 |
lordawe |
but it is laggy sometimes |
| 12:53 |
lordawe |
I just browse other servers too |
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agaran |
lordawe: now looking at Calinou's server, so far seems quite empty but otherwise lots of room for building (damage enabled etc) |
| 13:08 |
lordawe |
let me see |
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Calinou |
beware, areas mod can't be used by players |
| 13:10 |
Calinou |
so you can easily get griefed |
| 13:11 |
Calinou |
maybe I'll add a player-usable protection mod like TenPlus1's protector mod |
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agaran |
Calinou: but that means, you can eventually protect something if it gets to point that it makes sense to do so.. |
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lordawe |
well, I should learn the third protection mod... |
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Krock |
or the landrush mod? Works nicely |
| 13:14 |
Krock |
also I miss a crafting guide there.. the basic stuff is missing |
| 13:15 |
agaran |
like? I found already some iron etc |
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lordawe |
Landrush was quite good, I used it loong time ago at LibertyLand server... |
| 13:15 |
lordawe |
I amnot in yet |
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Calinou |
I should develop a simple mobs mod and add it on my server |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
but don't really have the skills right now :( |
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Glorfindel |
Use tens mod? |
| 13:25 |
Krock |
11's mod was started as a simple mod but now there are so many mobs in it... |
| 13:26 |
Glorfindel |
Yeah, but they are all nice mobs :D |
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VanessaE |
just FYI, lordawe's problem with the missing textures was due to a mod bug on my server. I've forked and fixed it (I hope). |
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lordawe |
yeah, thank you VanessaE and Krock for big help |
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VanessaE |
yw |
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Calinou |
Glorfindel: the models/sounds are very inconsistent :( |
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Glorfindel |
Ahhh |
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Calinou |
I don't need 20+ mobs anyway |
| 13:36 |
Calinou |
I'd be happy with a rat/sheep/oerkki/dungeon master base |
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Glorfindel |
I never really noticed as I play with sound off :p |
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Glorfindel |
I see |
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nolsen |
#4365 |
| 14:03 |
nolsen |
? |
| 14:03 |
nolsen |
er |
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Megaf |
Hi |
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Glorfindel |
Hello |
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agaran |
Hi Megaf |
| 14:19 |
agaran |
what one has to do to get interact on your server?;) |
| 14:20 |
Megaf |
agaran: just ask me for it |
| 14:20 |
Megaf |
:) |
| 14:20 |
Megaf |
agaran: just granted you |
| 14:20 |
Megaf |
saw you online earlier on |
| 14:20 |
agaran |
yep got stuck in some hole |
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Megaf |
agaran: need a lift? You could have done /spawn anyway :) |
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agaran |
well, spawn reqires interract;) |
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Megaf |
does it? Even on my server? |
| 14:23 |
agaran |
yep |
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Megaf |
lol, and I wrote the spawn thingy myself |
| 14:24 |
agaran |
it nicelly said that you need interract.. and I stayed in that hole, let me see it |
| 14:24 |
Megaf |
agaran: well, you have interact, feel free to explore our imense world :D Hamza568, Jessch8281, sin, daZs and Gniewomir are some of the best players there |
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agaran |
well modlist is impressive |
| 14:26 |
Megaf |
I've just added a couple of mobs yesterday |
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Megaf |
can anyone tell me a god website where I can see a website from around 2004? |
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agaran |
web.archive.org ? |
| 14:43 |
Megaf |
internet archive is not working because the current version of it doesnt allow that |
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Megaf |
(the website doesnt exists anymore, now is just in parking) |
| 14:43 |
Megaf |
This is the website I'm trying to open by the way http://www.casemodbr.com/forum |
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agaran |
then maybe google cached copies but they probably dont reach that far |
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Megaf |
they dont |
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Megaf |
well, I'm hungry, brb |
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agaran |
Megaf: have good meal |
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nm0i |
Megaf: huhu |
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nolsen |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4365 |
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Krock |
that's a snappy error |
| 16:20 |
Krock |
try to update your snappy repo |
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nolsen |
Krock: Okay, I will contact the snappy devs /sarcasm |
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Krock |
also, ``` is your friend to put multiline console messages into github ``` |
| 16:21 |
nolsen |
Snappy is very latest |
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nolsen |
nothing I can do about it. |
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Krock |
and leveldb too? |
| 16:21 |
nolsen |
And not my problem, either |
| 16:21 |
nolsen |
It's their fault. |
| 16:21 |
Krock |
I've the feeling that this is a leveldb issue |
| 16:21 |
Krock |
so not related to Minetest |
| 16:22 |
Krock |
sfan5, wouldn't it be more helpful to say that the issue should be moved to the leveldb repo instead? |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
Ubuntu 12.04? |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
Who uses 12.04? |
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Krock |
^ sfan5 does? |
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sfan5 |
you don't? |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
somehow install better leveldb packages." |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
" |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
Install better? |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
sfan5: no lol |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
12.04 lost support, anyways. |
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sfan5 |
what are you using |
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Krock |
nolsen, LOOL |
| 16:24 |
nolsen |
16.04 |
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* Krock |
sits in front of a Win XP computer |
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Calinou |
12.04 is still supported until 2017 |
| 16:25 |
Calinou |
so, 9 months from now |
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nolsen |
Calinou: I still consider that outdated. |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
but yeah, upgrading to 16.04 costs nothing, and even 14.04 doesn't have that LevelDB bug |
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Krock |
oh yes, 12.04 is somewhat outdated!! |
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Calinou |
I heard OpenVZ finally had a new release |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
it supports Ubuntu 16.04 maybe? |
| 16:26 |
nolsen |
I'm running ubuntu 16.10 on my laptop |
| 16:26 |
nolsen |
my VPS has 16.04 |
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Calinou |
my VPS is on OpenVZ, thus on 14.04 |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi :) |
| 16:26 |
nolsen |
I'm using digitalocean |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
I tried upgrading to 16.04 once and broke everything, had to reinstall |
| 16:27 |
Calinou |
because 16.04 has a libc that requires kernel 3.2, and OpenVZ is still on 2.6.32 or something |
| 16:27 |
Calinou |
a 2009 kernel :) |
| 16:27 |
nolsen |
And thus, openvz sucks. |
| 16:27 |
nolsen |
KVM forever. |
| 16:27 |
sfan5 |
can you go to 4chan if you want to hate on random stuff for no reason? |
| 16:28 |
nolsen |
sfan5: no. |
| 16:28 |
Krock |
is there a 4chan channel on freenode? |
| 16:28 |
Krock |
can't find any |
| 16:29 |
Calinou |
nolsen: KVM is more expensive for the provider |
| 16:29 |
Calinou |
(more performance overhead) |
| 16:30 |
nolsen |
Yes but you don't have to use an ancient kernel? |
| 16:30 |
nolsen |
More older than the pyraminds. |
| 16:30 |
nolsen |
pyramids* |
| 16:30 |
sfan5 |
it doesn't make a difference for the application |
| 16:30 |
luizrpgluiz |
someone there made any mod built using vectors only? |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
yes, but that might change, OpenVZ recently saw a new major release |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
sfan5: yes, almost any software is recent enough to run on 14.04 |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
except Docker... requires kernel 3.10 :( |
| 16:30 |
nolsen |
sfan5: So there is no difference between 2.x and 4.x? |
| 16:31 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
https://lut.im/gallery#8z4mQicd3Y/oheUQ4gjXjziJgBy.png,7WXTEemTrQ/9SyuV796eH0DsH3I.png,DuTu2DVh4Q/MHShQzOdOoWJBymp.png,N7gtgKzizy/QoJEUnW1ubpFn7P0.png |
| 16:31 |
sfan5 |
thats not what i said |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
preview of my 32x texture pack |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
made in like, 30-45 minutes |
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nolsen |
Krock: libsnappy-dev is already the newest version (1.1.3-2). |
| 16:33 |
nolsen |
1.1.3-2 is the latest. |
| 16:34 |
luizrpgluiz |
Calinou: beautiful images when you're ready I'll use this very texture pack |
| 16:38 |
aix |
okay my server's really turning into shit |
| 16:38 |
aix |
I think i'll just rollback |
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aix |
basic_machinesdigiline-stuffdigilines minetest-mod-mesecons modpack.txt pipeworks # will any of these cause lag anywhere as bad as technic does? |
| 16:46 |
agaran |
technic afaik causes lag only when it generates caves, more ores etc.. but otherwise I did not had issues with technic.. when you have problems with i? |
| 16:47 |
aix |
i haven't yet |
| 16:47 |
aix |
it's just generated caves in my stonesquare field |
| 16:49 |
sfan5 |
nolsen: works for me on 16.04 |
| 16:49 |
aix |
http://yaap.it/paste/cb0fb78ab19fcc6a#iQJO2ShcX7gOF6eBGyPuYzqewU5jRrisCte6PDFh0ms= |
| 16:49 |
aix |
anything that'll cause huge lag? |
| 16:50 |
luizrpgluiz |
sfan5: you know how to generate a fixed construction using only vector? |
| 16:50 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 16:50 |
Krock |
agaran, not only the mapgen causes lag - also the pipeworks that are usually used in combination with etchnic |
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agaran |
Krock: yup, tubes are like that, found that hard time but it is not really technic problem.. |
| 16:51 |
Krock |
depends how many nodes you have that update after X seconds |
| 16:51 |
Krock |
so.. talkinga bout ABMs |
| 16:51 |
agaran |
in technic most abm's are switching stations.. |
| 16:51 |
luizrpgluiz |
sfan5: You know someone who knows how to make a mod like this? |
| 16:52 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 16:52 |
Krock |
luizrpgluiz, that sounds almost like the L-tree systeme |
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aix |
thanks to some awesome people, i've had to revert my map and no longer grant interact by default |
| 16:57 |
nolsen |
sfan5: How did you compile it? |
| 16:57 |
nolsen |
and install it? |
| 16:57 |
sfan5 |
install requied packages |
| 16:57 |
Krock |
aix, my building is lost?!? |
| 16:57 |
sfan5 |
download irrlicht |
| 16:57 |
nolsen |
irrlicht? |
| 16:57 |
aix |
um |
| 16:57 |
nolsen |
Isn't that built in minetest? |
| 16:57 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 16:57 |
Krock |
no, it's a seperate library |
| 16:58 |
sfan5 |
and then point cmake to irrlicht's files |
| 16:58 |
sfan5 |
compile and ... done |
| 16:58 |
nolsen |
I assume I already have it, because I wouldn't be able to run minetest |
| 17:01 |
nolsen |
Already installed. |
| 17:01 |
aix |
this is wierd. |
| 17:02 |
aix |
it's collated all of my worlds |
| 17:02 |
nolsen |
sfan5: did you git clone? |
| 17:02 |
nolsen |
for leveldb |
| 17:03 |
sfan5 |
apt-get install libleveldb-git |
| 17:03 |
sfan5 |
uhh |
| 17:03 |
sfan5 |
libleveldb-dev |
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nolsen |
aix: That exists? |
| 17:03 |
nolsen |
er |
| 17:03 |
nolsen |
sfan5: |
| 17:03 |
nolsen |
You kidding me... |
| 17:03 |
nolsen |
I could've saved time |
| 17:04 |
nolsen |
Nobody had said anything about libleveldb |
| 17:04 |
sfan5 |
how about you inform yourself before trying to do stuff |
| 17:04 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Inform myself? Nobody told me. |
| 17:04 |
nolsen |
No documentation |
| 17:05 |
nolsen |
You can't get knowledge out of thin air. |
| 17:06 |
sfan5 |
correct |
| 17:07 |
sfan5 |
instead of downloading random stuff and just installing it you should inform yourself where to get that package for your distro |
| 17:07 |
sfan5 |
do you know what https://google.co.uk/ is? |
| 17:07 |
nolsen |
.co.k? |
| 17:07 |
nolsen |
co.uk? |
| 17:07 |
nolsen |
Who lives in the UK? |
| 17:07 |
sfan5 |
i don't |
| 17:07 |
nolsen |
Hm, now I get a different error. |
| 17:08 |
nolsen |
sfan5: DuckDuckGo doesn't say anything |
| 17:08 |
nolsen |
about a distro package. |
| 17:08 |
nolsen |
Instead I get random, unhelpful info. |
| 17:09 |
sfan5 |
then use google |
| 17:09 |
Krock |
Oh god. Please stop this flamewar. It's way too hot in here |
| 17:10 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Google sucks. |
| 17:10 |
nolsen |
They spy on you. |
| 17:10 |
nolsen |
They block tor, and my VPS> |
| 17:10 |
nolsen |
VPS* |
| 17:10 |
nolsen |
Also, https://nolsen.xyz/paste/?a2a0df3b3c5254a1#13zH/98GVszfG3twh/FIElRlmF1l6goRoLrxqtxX8jk= |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
lmao |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
you need to delete CMakeFiles and re-run cmake |
| 17:10 |
nolsen |
I did |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
no you didn't |
| 17:10 |
nolsen |
well, rerun cmake |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
nolsen: where is your vps that google blocks it? |
| 17:11 |
nolsen |
sfan5: digitalocean? |
| 17:11 |
nolsen |
I get a captcha every time I use my VPN on my VPS. |
| 17:11 |
sfan5 |
then you must've done something terribly wrong |
| 17:11 |
sfan5 |
google doesn't block IPs for no reason |
| 17:11 |
nolsen |
Yes, I'm doing something wrong. |
| 17:11 |
nolsen |
sfan5: What cmake files? |
| 17:11 |
nolsen |
There's many files with C |
| 17:12 |
sfan5 |
a directory named CMakeFiles |
| 17:12 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Didn't work. |
| 17:12 |
nolsen |
Same error. |
| 17:13 |
sfan5 |
did you run cmake again after deleting? |
| 17:13 |
nolsen |
of course. |
| 17:13 |
sfan5 |
delete the whole minetest folder and start over |
| 17:13 |
nolsen |
... |
| 17:13 |
nolsen |
Yes, I'm going to delete my worlds |
| 17:13 |
nolsen |
and my conf |
| 17:14 |
nolsen |
and my 50 mods |
| 17:14 |
sfan5 |
well save those |
| 17:18 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Is there a package for spatial? |
| 17:18 |
nolsen |
Since I searched everywhere |
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aix |
https://sr.ht/wnfd.png i think this is the way forward |
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sfan5 |
nolsen: use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ next time, the name is libspatialindex-dev |
| 17:49 |
sfan5 |
aix: what about people who arent good at english |
| 17:49 |
aix |
sfan5: uh |
| 17:49 |
aix |
it's an english server |
| 17:49 |
aix |
so, politeness aside, i'd say tough shit |
| 17:49 |
sfan5 |
in that case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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aix |
:P |
| 17:49 |
aix |
also |
| 17:49 |
aix |
https://sr.ht/9nrN.png what do you think? |
| 17:51 |
sfan5 |
what's that? |
| 17:52 |
aix |
a zen garden |
| 17:53 |
aix |
http://www.slideshare.net/Japzen/what-is-a-zen-garden |
| 17:54 |
sfan5 |
ah |
| 17:56 |
aix |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_rock_garden |
| 17:56 |
aix |
explains why i couldn't find a wiki page for it before |
| 18:00 |
Krock |
looks like a sandbox with gravel |
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aix |
it is |
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aix |
essentially |
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| 18:23 |
Krock |
Have you guys ever heard about this game? http://jawapa.everybodyedits.com/ ? |
| 18:23 |
Krock |
(sorry, offtopic) |
| 18:24 |
sfan5 |
oh that's new |
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Megaf |
lol Krock |
| 18:34 |
Megaf |
you got me |
| 18:35 |
specing |
sup |
| 18:35 |
specing |
Where did the Sky server go? |
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aix |
i forgot how fucking good minetest was |
| 18:40 |
specing |
same |
| 18:40 |
aix |
I think i'll make an "elite" server |
| 18:40 |
aix |
like |
| 18:40 |
aix |
not the "elite" that's polluted with internet memes |
| 18:40 |
aix |
an exclusive private server |
| 18:42 |
aix |
not because i want one, because granting interact by default just causes problems for everyone |
| 18:43 |
rubenwardy |
Would be nice to have an invite only server, where to join you need to be vouched for or well known |
| 18:43 |
rubenwardy |
but meh |
| 18:43 |
rubenwardy |
has draw backs too |
| 18:43 |
Krock |
the idea is good but are there enough players who want to register to join it? |
| 18:44 |
Krock |
some might never see the server's building because they don't know how to get in |
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rubenwardy |
I don't like playing only due to annoying children, and griefers |
| 18:44 |
specing |
then /protect your stuff? |
| 18:44 |
specing |
it worked 2 years ago ;p |
| 18:44 |
agaran |
well I was visiting some servers and childs 'wanna be friends' are somewhat.. meh |
| 18:45 |
rubenwardy |
there's always bugs with that, and it ends up being annoying |
| 18:45 |
specing |
lava in bucket? :D |
| 18:45 |
rubenwardy |
I'm currently on my own private server with my brother, much more peaceful - although less impressive |
| 18:45 |
rubenwardy |
+building |
| 18:46 |
agaran |
rubenwardy: I totally can understand, I have 127.0.0.1 when I want to be left alone |
| 18:47 |
rubenwardy |
I wish I could go back to the redcrab days. So many hours of fun then |
| 18:47 |
Krock |
specing, that and no interact privilege because there are always people who build dirt or cobble houses |
| 18:48 |
Krock |
(or grief the landscape in any other way) |
| 18:48 |
rubenwardy |
one of the reasons I quit redcrab (apart from the instability and bugs) was that someone build literally 10m away from me |
| 18:49 |
rubenwardy |
com'on, I was in the middle of no where |
| 18:49 |
rubenwardy |
get your own land |
| 18:49 |
rubenwardy |
to make things worse |
| 18:49 |
rubenwardy |
they didn't build a house |
| 18:50 |
rubenwardy |
they built a massive 30m high wall |
| 18:50 |
specing |
was Trump your neighbour? |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
heh.. mexico isn't nowhere |
| 18:50 |
specing |
well he paid for it ;p |
| 18:56 |
nolsen |
!server such survival server |
| 18:56 |
MinetestBot |
nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 3/15, 1/3 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 1ms |
| 18:56 |
nolsen |
1ms |
| 18:56 |
nolsen |
\o/ |
| 18:57 |
nolsen |
Yet it's eating 50% of my RAM |
| 18:57 |
nolsen |
and I only have 993MB on the server. |
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Krock |
(a sign for many textures or audio files) |
| 19:01 |
Krock |
also meshes eat some RAM |
| 19:01 |
rubenwardy |
why would meshes eat server side RAM? |
| 19:01 |
Krock |
oh nvm. Haven't seen "on the server" |
| 19:02 |
rubenwardy |
Really, if you use the http media server, resources should use 0 ram |
| 19:02 |
Glorfindel |
nolsen: how much ram to begin with? |
| 19:02 |
Krock |
but almost a GiB is much for only 3 clients |
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Fixer |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13972&p=206195 ._. |
| 19:25 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: minetest is not minecraft it seems, people want to build closer to each other, remember that pic of two guys in empty toilet? %) |
| 19:26 |
rubenwardy |
huh |
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Fixer |
collectgarbage(count) |
| 19:26 |
Fixer |
this is useful |
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twoelk |
hrmpf - I don't mind time outs when connecting to a server but clients shouldn't crash if they can't connect |
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Krock |
twoelk, it doesn't crash. Only throws an error |
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twoelk |
thats how it should be |
| 20:26 |
twoelk |
just tried to connect to TTech-Creative and crashed every time |
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nolsen |
Glorfindel: 1GB |
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| 20:28 |
nolsen |
How much RAM do I need to 15 people? |
| 20:28 |
nolsen |
8GB? |
| 20:28 |
nolsen |
We need certain mods to be client-sided, so it stop eating the server's RAM. |
| 20:28 |
nolsen |
and CPU. |
| 20:28 |
nolsen |
Like rain. |
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nolsen |
(I wish I have the rain mod, but it eats too much CPU) |
| 20:28 |
twoelk |
Krock: it usually ends with: ERROR[Main]: Some exception: "std::bad_alloc" |
| 20:29 |
Krock |
twoelk, this means you don't have enough free memory |
| 20:30 |
twoelk |
I knew I shouldn't have left all them other stuff running in the background :-D |
| 20:30 |
Krock |
^^ |
| 20:30 |
Krock |
apt-get install RAM |
| 20:30 |
nolsen |
I have plenty of bandwidth (Gigabit internet speeds, up and down), one CPU, and 1GB of RAM + Swap, 30GB SSD. |
| 20:30 |
Krock |
(not to be used in real) |
| 20:31 |
Krock |
nolsen, largely depends on the mods and configuration you use |
| 20:31 |
twoelk |
still, I visited severall servers in a row before and after and this happened only on this one |
| 20:31 |
Krock |
Like, how many mapblocks are loaded around players |
| 20:31 |
nolsen |
Krock: How much RAM would default use? |
| 20:31 |
nolsen |
I'm not using defaults. |
| 20:31 |
nolsen |
But if I were, how much would it require? |
| 20:32 |
ElectronLibre |
Krock: I'm gonna try your command |
| 20:32 |
ElectronLibre |
I wonder what will happen |
| 20:32 |
Krock |
nolsen, I don't know much about it. When I ran a server on Windows it took maximal 200 MB of RAM |
| 20:32 |
Krock |
ElectronLibre, uh.. package not found? |
| 20:32 |
nolsen |
Krock: How many users? |
| 20:32 |
Krock |
nolsen, about 8 of them |
| 20:32 |
ElectronLibre |
Krock: Yep |
| 20:32 |
nolsen |
Krock: How many mods? |
| 20:32 |
nolsen |
Was it pure vanilla? |
| 20:32 |
nolsen |
Pure boring vanilla? |
| 20:33 |
Krock |
nolsen, no, had unifide inventory with skins and some low-ressource mods |
| 20:33 |
ElectronLibre |
Pleonasm. |
| 20:33 |
Krock |
that was everything |
| 20:33 |
ElectronLibre |
(boring vanilla; at least here) |
| 20:33 |
nolsen |
Krock: I have about 30 mods installed. |
| 20:33 |
Krock |
that's plenty of them |
| 20:33 |
nolsen |
I only have one user, and it's using 53.2% of RAM |
| 20:33 |
nolsen |
out of 993MB of RAM |
| 20:34 |
ElectronLibre |
What mods do you have in there? |
| 20:34 |
nolsen |
and 278/1024MB of Swap. |
| 20:34 |
nolsen |
I can't get a list |
| 20:34 |
Krock |
upload world.mt? |
| 20:34 |
ElectronLibre |
"cat $(ls mods/) > modlist"? |
| 20:35 |
nolsen |
There might be mods inside those directories? |
| 20:35 |
Krock |
"dog $(dunno linux/) > modlist" |
| 20:35 |
ElectronLibre |
Or rather echo, maybe cat will work |
| 20:35 |
ElectronLibre |
Krock: You should install and try the "lolcat" command |
| 20:35 |
Krock |
kthxbai |
| 20:35 |
ElectronLibre |
It's completely useless but entirely necessary |
| 20:36 |
twoelk |
I guess my main RAM eating culprit is Firefox. Cant leave that creature unattended in the background |
| 20:36 |
Krock |
that's a paradoxon |
| 20:36 |
nolsen |
servers.minetest.net reports 137 mods. |
| 20:36 |
ElectronLibre |
I know. That's the point. |
| 20:37 |
ElectronLibre |
It serves to highlight how useless it is, by mentionning how great it is. In some way. |
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* twoelk |
wonders how much longer he can cling to his 2GB of Ram machine |
| 20:39 |
ElectronLibre |
twoelk: Do you need to use a graphical interface? |
| 20:39 |
agaran |
anyone knows how to make use out of beehouse in farming_plus? |
| 20:39 |
Krock |
twoelk, try a 16px texture pack |
| 20:39 |
twoelk |
saddly yes - actually I do 3D CAD with it |
| 20:39 |
ElectronLibre |
Holly crepe |
| 20:40 |
Krock |
crepes are tasty |
| 20:40 |
ElectronLibre |
Can you upgrade the RAM? |
| 20:40 |
twoelk |
nope - end of line |
| 20:40 |
ElectronLibre |
Compiling.. The answer is : not very long |
| 20:40 |
Krock |
The answer must be 42 |
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* Krock |
gives twoelk x03 (end of text) |
| 20:43 |
twoelk |
a looong time ago I actually lernt CAD by using the terminal and only checking the graphical output once in a while |
| 20:43 |
agaran |
but that was like '80? |
| 20:43 |
twoelk |
86 |
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* twoelk |
runs and hides |
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* Krock |
feels like a kid again and hides too |
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agaran |
I was using autocad12 but it was wysiwyg already |
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twoelk |
yeah but faster using the terminal commands |
| 20:44 |
twoelk |
way faster |
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agaran |
of course |
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aix |
https://sr.ht/2wVw.png not too bad for a day's work |
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aix |
well, more like an hour |
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aix |
i spent most of today fixing the map |
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Krock |
you need more cobble |
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aix |
https://sr.ht/iDt5.png |
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twoelk |
hmm cobbleRam? |
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aix |
these are just the ones i haven't simply trashed to make room for ores while mining |
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agaran |
twoelk: almost like core memory ;) |
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aix |
you need to download more cobble |
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twoelk |
it's all silicon aint it? |
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agaran |
core memory? nah |
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agaran |
it was copper wire and ferrite rings.. back in '50/'60 |
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agaran |
you had array of wires, permitting to select row/column etc, and each crossing had also r/w wires and ring over that |
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MinetestBot |
[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest_game: Beds, boats: Replace deprecated get_look_yaw/set_look_yaw ea49eb3 https://git.io/vKba5 (2016-07-27T21:39:22+01:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Prevent placing sapling if grown tree intersects protection 0ac0969 https://git.io/vKbad (2016-07-27T21:39:22+01:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] tenplus1 -> minetest/minetest_game: Bones: Ability to change bones mode. Tidy up code 2df7ce2 https://git.io/vKbaF (2016-07-27T21:37:49+01:00) |
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agaran |
ring was from ferromagnetic that could get magnetized 2 ways, so when you read aplying weak current you know which way it was magnetized.. |
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agaran |
that was main memory of computers before silicon memories.. |
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agaran |
with bigger current you could change magnetization thus write |
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agaran |
sorry for computer rant. |
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twoelk |
I saw old automatic weaving machines a while ago, programmed with punch cards - or rather wood sheets with holes sewn together -fascinating stuff |
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agaran |
some stuff still operates in same way as it was with punch cards.. and I still have some blanks I got as gift.. |
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agaran |
80 char limit was punch card lenght.. |
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* twoelk |
still has some as well |
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aix |
https://sr.ht/oyi0.png |
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twoelk |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquard_loom |
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twoelk |
cool to watch them working |
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agaran |
saw knitting machine that was using very similar programming (metal strips but principle same) |
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twoelk |
a loop was a real loop in those days |
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twoelk |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a9wWRxYSko <- another cool looping of strips with holes ;-P |
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nolsen |
Is there a mod to ban android users? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Upright sprite objects: Horizontally flip the front image 8a98cbd https://git.io/vKbPc (2016-07-27T22:21:41+01:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Wuzzy2 -> minetest/minetest: Main menu, lua_api.txt: Fix mod/texture pack screenshot size issues 2cb0f64 https://git.io/vKbPC (2016-07-27T22:20:31+01:00) |
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nolsen |
Because all they do is timeout |
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nolsen |
They are useless players. |
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twoelk |
most android users don't use the official version from minetest.net - it seems difficult to find a way to ban those other ported versions. noguests and protocol version checks seem the only possibilities at the moment but they are not flawless if they work at all |
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nm0i |
most of android users timout because of oom killer |
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nm0i |
There are plenti of them playing on lightweight servers |
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nm0i |
*Plenty =\ |
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nolsen |
twoelk: You can have it check if the client is the offical version. |
| 22:07 |
nolsen |
And let the servers decide to ban or not. |
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twoelk |
they will adjust |
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nolsen |
twoelk: They can't. |
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nolsen |
The server will kick them out if they don't reply. |
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twoelk |
steering and writing is difficult for noobs on mobile devices - put up a parcour to leave spawn, add a codeword they need to type and things that need shiftjump and other difficult stuff |
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nm0i |
Last time I asked this question here there was no way to check client version, what changed? |
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twoelk |
no you can check protocol versions wich excludes old clients - a lot of the old android hacks didn't update but that has flaws as you can probably guess |
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twoelk |
it still is the policy of minetest to not exclude by version check iirc |
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rubenwardy |
How do I get the current stack index of the selected item of the hotbar? I want to get the item stack to the right |
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rubenwardy |
ah, get_wield_index() |
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rubenwardy |
will `stack and stack:get_name()` return get_name if stack exists, and nil otherwise? |
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