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IRC log for #minetest, 2016-07-21

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00:31 Megaf eblum: hold on
00:32 Megaf connecting
00:33 Megaf eblum: what do you mean by crash?
00:35 Megaf eblum: the server is pretty slow but no crashes
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00:46 linushsao_ .
00:47 mars-server <admin> .
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01:09 exio4 is that legal?
01:09 * exio4 looks around
01:09 mars-terver <XxthanatosxX> is what legal
01:09 exio4 didn't know you could keep an irc relay in the main chat channel
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01:10 mars-terver <XxthanatosxX> i do not know what a irc relay is but i am sure it's important
01:10 mars-terver <joki> yang can you port me to josh
01:11 exio4 it's a mod that keeps the in-game chat with an IRC channel (IRC is a chat protocol, so you can connect with multiple clients)
01:12 mars-terver <XxthanatosxX> oh
01:12 mars-terver <yang2003> hmm.
01:13 mars-terver <yang2003> what Irc channel is that?
01:13 mars-terver <joki> yang so you can't port me to josh
01:13 mars-terver <yang2003> ?
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01:15 mars-terver <XxthanatosxX> how/
01:15 mars-terver <XxthanatosxX> how to join #minetest for the clients thing
01:16 yang2003 hmm.
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01:18 mars-terver <XxthanatosxX> nvm
01:44 eblum Megaf: sorry, I was afk. Yeah, the client just crashes. Windows eventually makes the window whiter and puts a (Not responding) suffix to the window title
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01:45 eblum Megaf: it may be my software or hardware configuration if it works for you, though. My GPU and graphic drivers aren't exactly last model, and considering I got the crash with error messages related to loading a png image, it may just be that.
01:49 Megaf eblum: try going to advanced settings and changing the driver
01:49 eblum Alright
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01:50 eblum Tried with direct3d9 and it also crashes
01:50 Megaf eblum: also, on Windows that might be another program using lots of your memory ram
01:50 eblum Will try with software rendering
01:50 Megaf so close everything
01:52 eblum That might be true
01:52 eblum Let me try
01:52 eblum Oh wait
01:52 eblum Now it loaded
01:52 eblum It crashed, but it eventually loaded
01:53 eblum It's probably just my toaster doing toaster things, as usual.
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01:57 eblum Well, thanks for the help anyway. Sorry for the interruption.
01:57 eblum Have a nice day, people
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02:11 Megaf quite a polite gentleman he is
02:13 Megaf any Brazilian here? If so, please join #Minetest-Br
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02:27 Megaf so, what's a good way to post a galery like thing of screenshots in the forum?
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02:35 mart-server <yang2003> ok
02:36 mart-server <XxthanatosxX> sry kinda died in the sandstorm in your house
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02:56 Megaf exio4: I think you can't
02:57 exio4 makes sense
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02:57 Megaf meh, I just got an album called 500 dance hits of the 90s
02:58 Megaf pure nostalgia man
02:58 Megaf here I am dancing siting on my chair at 3:58 AM
02:58 Megaf "All what she wants is another babe, ohh, shes gonne tomorrow but all what she wants is another babe ieeeh"
02:59 Megaf Hey LazyJ
02:59 LazyJ Howdy Megaf ;)
03:00 Megaf wow, spaceman! from Babylon Zoo
03:00 Megaf I wonder if I can stream the stuff I'm listening
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03:02 Megaf LazyJ: some screenshots of my server there -> https://megaf.info/2016/07/20/megaf-server-v4-0-servidor-minetest/
03:02 Megaf !server mars
03:02 MinetestBot Megaf: LinusHSAO's UNOFFICE MarsSurvive Server | 139.59.238.211:30016 | Clients: 1/15, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / marsu | Ping: 189ms
03:03 Megaf linushsao_: you there?
03:03 Megaf there is another IRC network and channel that is more apropriate for that
03:03 Megaf I'm afraid you are not allowed to do that here
03:03 yang2003 I think he is going to move it
03:05 LazyJ Neat pics, Megaf ;)
03:06 Megaf can anyone open this with mpv or mplayer2? rtsp://2a02:8084:1080:db00:d136:861f:37b:19cc:8554
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03:07 Megaf I'm almost sure it will not work
03:10 Megaf I stopped the stream already, don't bother
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03:20 Megaf so, with spotify tab open this is the free memory here. 103MB, after closing its tab -> 1264MB free
03:20 Megaf yep...
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03:40 paramat mars-server please stop linking server chat with this channel, otherwise we ban you
03:42 Megaf paramat: linushsao_ is the admin
03:43 paramat ok. ^
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03:51 desktop Hello
03:51 desktop How can I get MineTest to run on my Raspberry Pi 2 Model B at a good frame rate? It's running at around 0 right now.
03:54 paramat disable shaders, use opaque leaves
03:55 paramat and disable as many graphics settings as you can
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03:57 paramat and reduce view range with '-'
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04:08 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgvalleys / cavegen: Place riverbed nodes under river water 2ba8ad1 https://git.io/vKPLE (2016-07-21T05:01:18+01:00)
04:08 MinetestBot [git] everamzah -> minetest/minetest: lua_api.txt: Remove tooltip checkbox[] element 97c7631 https://git.io/vKPLu (2016-07-21T05:00:40+01:00)
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07:35 agaran how to revert viewrange reducing done with - ? + does not do that, which would be logical..
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07:39 linus-mobile Reset the screen resolution?
07:41 linus-mobile In minetest?
07:49 agaran view distance reduction
07:50 agaran I readed today backlog, and - does reduce viewrange, nice if you want to run on slow hw, but how to revert without restarting client..
07:56 linus-mobile max_block_send_distance
07:59 linus-mobile https://goo.gl/b4OTox
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08:01 linus-mobile You can try it
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08:31 agaran I did, when I increase it, I get a lot abm execution time > 200ms, but - does only for client..
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08:36 JamesTait Good morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy Junk Food Day! 😃  ðŸ”  ðŸŸ
08:38 agaran DonBatman: it is even more funny with that paramtype=light if you remove it for walls, they get perfectly black always, even if lit with torches..
08:46 linus-mobile Junk food day? Ha...
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08:55 JamesTait linus-mobile, finally! A day I can not feel guilty about snacking!
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11:56 hisforever Hi i'd like to build a castle in single player, I need to dig a big mote but don't want to spend all day on it, any suggestions on this ?
12:00 Fixer build in creative mode?
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12:35 agaran tnt?
12:44 Krock tnt:tnt
12:49 agaran ah, I was late, hisforever asked about digging big moat.. I wanted to suggest tnt..
12:52 Krock tnt and any other explosive is good
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14:25 yusf As an admin on a MT server, how can I remove placed nodes from mods no longer loaded?
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14:38 agaran yusf: hmm.. you can dig them but not remove, but, I'd try to write short mod that has abm with probability 1 every 10 seconds replacing unwanted mods with air or maybe default:dirt
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15:40 EpicMinerBackup Anyone on?
15:40 EpicMinerBackup I need help
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15:41 agaran i would suggest to ask question instead..
15:42 jomat Didn't he ask a question? :-)
15:43 mmmmhack I am on :)
15:43 agaran well, true
15:45 EpicMinerBackup Well the game is block lagging and laggin in general non fps lag
15:48 EpicMinerBackup I have really good pc
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15:48 jomat ok
15:50 mmmmhack Lagging with local server?
15:53 EpicMinerBackup yeah singleplayer
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15:55 mmmmhack what os are you running?
15:57 EpicMinerBackup Windows 10 fresh install
15:58 mmmmhack have you tried rebooting :P
15:59 EpicMinerBackup yep
15:59 mmmmhack what game/mods are you running?
16:00 EpicMinerBackup surive modpack from Nathan Salapat and it also lags in normal
16:01 mmmmhack have you looked at the debug profiler graph?
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16:02 EpicMinerBackup how would I open that shift F something?
16:02 mmmmhack hit f5 a few times
16:02 mmmmhack 2 times
16:03 paramat agaran increase view range with '+' which is SHIFT +, or use numberpad key
16:04 EpicMinerBackup it seems consistant
16:04 EpicMinerBackup It seems a high on mainloop _sleep
16:05 EpicMinerBackup and inconsistant
16:05 mmmmhack what version of minetest are you running?
16:08 EpicMinerBackup Latest 0.4.14
16:08 EpicMinerBackup at least I think its latest
16:08 Krock it's the latest stable build, yes.
16:08 Krock a high mainloop_sleep is good
16:09 Krock (here is usually not much left, thus it lags)
16:10 EpicMinerBackup it seems to drop really low
16:11 EpicMinerBackup can I increse ram?
16:13 EpicMinerBackup noiw it's freaking out and duplicating items o n the inventory screen
16:13 mmmmhack Did it ever run fast on this machine?
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16:14 EpicMinerBackup In the beguining it seemsed to run fine
16:14 EpicMinerBackup maybe becuase it's windows?
16:14 EpicMinerBackup the ram and cpu usage is low
16:15 mmmmhack maybe... I have mostly experience with linux
16:15 mmmmhack if it ran fast initially, you could try a fresh install, maybe even with a new user account/directory, and then carefully note everything you do to see what might be causing the lag
16:17 EpicMinerBackup I could try linux maybe
16:18 EpicMinerBackup where are saves located in the main install directory?
16:19 mmmmhack under worlds I believe
16:19 mmmmhack gotta go, good luck!
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16:33 EpicMinerBackup okay now I crashed
16:33 EpicMinerBackup ServerError: Lua: OOM error from mod 'intersecting' in callback environment_OnGenerated(): not enough memory 2016-07-21 11:24:13: ERROR[Main]: Current Lua memory usage: 80 MB
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16:43 paramat yes that mod uses lots of memory, i will opitimise memory use soon
16:43 paramat you use LuaJIT?
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16:45 paramat EpicMinerBackup ^
16:46 paramat mod uses lots of 3D noise, very memory intensive
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17:07 paramat LuaJIT has a low memory limit, try not using it
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17:10 EpicMinerBackup how can I make lua memory bigger
17:10 EpicMinerBackup I have 16 gis so
17:11 Fixer lua uses at most 1gig of memory iirc
17:11 Fixer luajit at least
17:11 Fixer it can be increased
17:11 Fixer by it needs haaacks
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17:19 EpicMinerBackup wrgh what kind of hacks
17:19 Fixer not exactly hacks but some patching and compiling iirc
17:20 Fixer info somewhere on minetest github page
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18:39 agaran Hmm, that meant Krock squared, ?
18:40 Krock no, it means KrockTheBetterSiteOfMe
18:40 Krock s/Site/Side/
18:40 agaran Aaah.. I see
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19:46 agaran DonBatman: do you know what makes that concrete circular-saw resistant?
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19:48 DonBatman What do you mean resistant?
19:50 DonBatman agaran?
19:50 agaran my circular saw does not want to cut it into slices..
19:50 agaran or I made something wrong?
19:51 DonBatman What mod has the saw?
19:51 DonBatman more_blocks?
19:51 DonBatman xdecor?
19:52 agaran moreblocks I think
19:52 Krock circular saw is in moreblocks
19:53 Krock maybe it's a material that can't be cut? try wood
19:53 Krock default:wood
19:53 DonBatman I think you have to add it to the reg for it to work
19:56 Krock yep, there's a slab/stair register function
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20:11 agaran ah, makes sense
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20:12 agaran I just asked because technic:concrete is circular-saw compatibile, while prefab:concrete its not..
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21:05 agaran what is better, I mean faster for lua code, wrap some check like local nodedef = minetest.registered_nodes[node.name]; if nodedef and nodedef.moddata and nodedef.moddata.query_param then sth = nodedef.moddata.query_param(pos,node,otherparam) end, or wrap that in subroutine that does all necesary checks (some checks ommited for clarity)
21:06 yusf agaran: Don't know anything about modding sadly, I just facilitate the server :(
21:07 agaran well i test things at 127.0.0.1, but since I am trying to write some stuff from scratch I could try to write it right way..
21:08 agaran just have no clue what cost lua more.. for C I'd go for latter, and let compiler worry about inlining or not
21:09 agaran well lets hope somebody throws answer I can read tomorrow from backlog:)
21:11 DonBatman agaran I am not sure what is faster/better in lua
21:11 agaran so I can go with prefered way and look how bad it will be?
21:12 DonBatman Either that or ping a name or 2 to some of the big names here
21:13 agaran I guess I read some more ready modules code.. and look tomorrow if anyone gave usefull pointers
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21:39 agaran Night
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23:19 hisforever Has anybody used the car mod?
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