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Fixer |
cool && I go sleep && gn |
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where do i find digital concepts server thingy |
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AlyssaVahlberg |
what is #minetest-general and how do i join? |
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botch |
Hello, I'm needing help if possible downloading the new Minetest 0.4.14 |
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electrodude512 |
what OS? |
01:22 |
botch |
Windows 10 |
01:24 |
botch |
My question is the "portable" and "installer" options, both being 64 bit and my system also being a 64 bit. |
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botch |
Does it matter which one to use? |
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botch |
Hi DMac-Garage |
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KaadmY |
botch: installer puts all the data/executables in global folders, while portable never touchs files outside the unzip folder |
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botch |
For a layman like myself, on a laptop *cough* PC, I just use Minetest here, would I be best off using the portable version? |
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electrodude512 |
it doesn't really matter |
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KaadmY |
they both should be identical by performance etc |
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botch |
Gotcha. I'll pick which ever is first on the list ;) I appreciate the info, thank you |
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electrodude512 |
I prefer the portable one, because it's all in one non-system directory |
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botch |
I just downloaded it, and extracted it to a seperate games folder I have. Norton Security Suite shortly there-after deleted a bunch of the .dll files as well as the .exe file directly. |
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botch |
Round two to attempt download..... |
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botch |
....freakin Windows.... |
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paramat |
hi sofar https://github.com/PilzAdam/nether/pull/17 |
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FreeFull |
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JohnWD |
Hm. anyone Know how I can get a vHost on Freenode? |
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IhrFussel |
VERY IMPORTANT: My server has a plague: Many players earlier logged on and used the "send message as 2nd line and type it like another player said it" in VERY BAD WAYS... i really need a Lua regex that matches those chars they use... i'm guessing they use either a lot of spaces or somehow can enter a new line |
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sfan5 |
can't you figure that out yourself? |
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IhrFussel |
sfan5, i have no idea how Lua regex works... also i don't know whether i can tell Lua to only match when there are X spaces or new line |
10:42 |
IhrFussel |
I only see the + modifier..it means 1 or more |
10:43 |
sfan5 |
don't you have an example chat line? |
10:43 |
sfan5 |
or are those not in the log? |
10:45 |
IhrFussel |
I see it... |
10:46 |
IhrFussel |
2016-05-28 14:31:23: ACTION[Server]: CHAT: <malaka> |
10:46 |
ElectronLibre |
Oh, an exploit with the chat, interesting |
10:46 |
IhrFussel |
Next line 2016-05-28 14:31:23: ACTION[Server]: spaces until here |
10:47 |
ElectronLibre |
IhrFussel: Add a callback for chat message, and strip out any line return you may find in the message's string, then send it to everyone like you were the server (with core.chat_send_all) and block the engine's response by returning true from your function. |
10:48 |
IhrFussel |
ElectronLibre, is there a simple regex to match for example 20 spaces? |
10:49 |
ElectronLibre |
I think so, maybe, I don't do regexes. |
10:49 |
ElectronLibre |
But you can find any message with more than three spaces and remove them |
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IhrFussel |
Yeah the problem is i only know about the + modofier..it even matches 1 space |
10:50 |
ElectronLibre |
For example if you find more than 5 consequent spaces in a message, you can kick/ban, or block the message |
10:50 |
ElectronLibre |
IhrFussel: Use string.find if you're not familiar with regexes |
10:51 |
IhrFussel |
That's an idea... do i have to use the new callback method or can i just use string.find() inside register_on_chat_message()? |
10:53 |
ElectronLibre |
I don't know what new callback method you are refering to, but register_on_chat_message is fine |
10:53 |
ElectronLibre |
Just remember to block the engine's response, which might, sadly, block other mods using that callback |
10:54 |
ElectronLibre |
If you have other mods which use that callback, you can create your own little mod and put them as dependencies of that mod so that those other callbacks, registered before your own one, will be executed before your own one, and thus not blocked |
10:54 |
IhrFussel |
I was referring to this "Add a callback for chat message, and strip out any line return you may find in the message's string, then send it to everyone like you were the server (with core.chat_send_all)" ... i could maybe just use it on the fly and return true which doesn't send the message to the others |
10:55 |
ElectronLibre |
Oh, you do that with a function registered with on_chat_message |
10:55 |
ElectronLibre |
And that's exactly what I was writing about with "blocking the engine", returning true |
10:55 |
* ElectronLibre |
has gotta go for a while; brb |
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IhrFussel |
ElectronLibre, thanks a lot i think it works..at least for now =) |
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FirePowi |
Hi everyone. |
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* cheapie |
now has working "smoke detectors" (well, fire:basic_flame detectors) in his fire alarm mod |
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Birgit |
Hi, do you know if there is a administration-tool for minetest-server via browser, that I can start/stop the server via smartphone and see logs? |
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Fixer |
dunno, but i think you can install program to ssh on your server and do anything you want |
13:16 |
Birgit |
hey ... that would be nice ;-) |
13:16 |
Birgit |
specially some scripts would be nice, like backups or an automatic restart would be nice. |
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Birgit |
may be it wouldn't be very difficult to create a php-Page with some buttons to give some simple commands |
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Birgit |
I'll post this idea to to forum, if someone has enough knowledge to do that |
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ElectronLibre |
Birgit: You can pass the argument "--terminal" if you compiled minetestserver with ncurse to get an interactive terminal |
13:39 |
ElectronLibre |
You'll be able to execute chatcommands as the administrator, as well as monitor the logs and the chat |
13:41 |
Birgit |
and you can access it via bowser? ... ah ... you are faster |
13:41 |
Birgit |
so, I can do everything inside the game |
13:42 |
Birgit |
but if the minetest-server is nor running, I can't use it. |
13:43 |
ElectronLibre |
Well, no, because it's a console run by minetest-server |
13:48 |
Birgit |
yes ... I would prefere that it is independant |
13:49 |
ElectronLibre |
I don't think such a tool could exist given Minetest's current design |
13:51 |
Birgit |
but wouldn't it be possible to give commands to a server with a Button? |
13:52 |
everamzah |
you could use minetestserver --terminal inside tmux/screen, and ssh to it using a browser terminal or phone app terminal |
14:11 |
Birgit |
Okay ... thanks for this information. I opened a thread in the Forum. May be someone is searching for an idea that he can realize. ;-) |
14:12 |
Birgit |
Minetest would be really a nice tool to use it in school, but most teacher don't have the knowledge and even more to time to learn all the things! |
14:13 |
Birgit |
-> thinks |
14:13 |
Birgit |
no |
14:15 |
Megaf |
so a guy just kicked me from a channel, because my behavior wasn't appropriate for the channel, what behavior you may ask, I was, according to him, idling, and he don't want people idling in his channel. (I was the only one that joined the channel, so basically there is no one to talk to, and if he kicks people waiting for people, well, I don;t know what he wants to achieve.) |
14:24 |
Calinou |
we at #kobuge once kicked idlers :P |
14:24 |
Calinou |
it brought down the user count by quite a bit |
14:25 |
Megaf |
yep, most people most of the time in most of the channels are mostly idling. |
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CWz |
Just like in TF2 back in the day |
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ElectronLibre |
I'm impressed that about a third of all fixes I need to make on MFF's servers are callbacks from different mods blocking each other's systems |
14:43 |
ElectronLibre |
s/impressed/annoyed/ |
14:45 |
ElectronLibre |
*are about callbacks ; I'm too crossed to even write correctly |
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Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: lol, next time flood in that channel |
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Out`Of`Control |
anyone know that cause too many entities? |
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Megaf |
Out`Of`Control, he banned me... |
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Megaf |
after kicking |
15:51 |
Out`Of`Control |
crazy |
15:52 |
CWz |
who did |
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Out`Of`Control |
ServerEnv: Trying to store id=273 statically but block (60,-1936,-26) already contains 37542 objects. Forcing delete. |
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Out`Of`Control |
could mobs mod cause that? |
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Megaf |
sure |
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Megaf |
anything that spawns anything |
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Megaf |
CWz, his names is erasmus |
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CWz |
erasmus sounds like a name a jerk would use |
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CWz |
jk |
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Megaf |
lol |
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CWz |
"Congratulations to: TumeniNodes (47), ucuhyjizy (36), ogyjo (36), uqijug (36), awyty (36), ecoja (36), imaxeluk (36), ypifuwevu (36), acicequd (36), esykymywe (36), ukonyte (36), philiins (34)"I smell spam accounts |
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Calinou |
we should clear accounts which have 0 posts since a month automatically… :/ |
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Longor |
Hi. |
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Megaf |
Calinou, my account would be cleared in that case |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
16:45 |
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Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 2/5, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms |
16:46 |
Calinou |
Megaf: I mean, accounts which have no posts, and never had any, for a month |
16:46 |
Calinou |
sounds reasonable to me |
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Megaf |
oh, that yes |
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KaadmY |
!server pixture |
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MinetestBot |
KaadmY: pixture | pixture.quelcom.xyz | Clients: 1/10, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14 / pixture | Ping: 15ms |
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Void7 |
!server pixel |
18:10 |
MinetestBot |
Void7: [*]THE PIXEL SHADOW[*] CREATIVE | servers.minetest.tv | Clients: 5/50, 2/5 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / thepixelshadow_game | Ping: 113ms |
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ElectronLibre |
Somehow closing the terminal after detaching the screen running my client kills said client. |
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ElectronLibre |
Between that and MT's blocking callbacks (and a mayhem of other software issues).. I think I'll start hating sundays instead of mondays. |
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Will this manipulate the chat message on thze fly when inside register_on_chat_message() ? "if string.len(message) >= 500 then message = string.sub(message, 1, 500).." ...." end" |
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IhrFussel |
Fixer, do you happen to know whether we can manipulate a chat message directly inside the callback? I mean not just block the whole message but manipulate its content |
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Fixer |
don't know :) |
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IhrFussel |
Hm I'll just create a new var with the manipulated content then send a new minetest.chat_send_all() and block the original |
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Megaf |
man, look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9dXEgjz9vc |
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Megaf |
but this version has a fantastic sound quality, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf_U3AZS4nY |
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Megaf |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: KAREN SOUZA - Creep (vinyl) - YouTube |
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Fixer |
damn |
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Megaf |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fobVo_497Ww |
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Megaf |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Guns N' Roses LP - Sweet Child O' Mine - YouTube |
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Megaf |
:) |
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Megaf |
Listening to this with a headphone with a wide frequence range response and 40mm driver is fantastic |
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Megaf |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqgfilVbQAQ |
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Megaf |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Metallica - Nothing Else Matters - YouTube |
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GnomeKris |
dang...It's been a while since I've played...I wonder how out of date I am. |
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Out`Of`Control |
any mod to delete user, while game is running? |
21:50 |
Out`Of`Control |
only from auth.txt |
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GnomeKris |
do you mean on a server? |
21:50 |
Out`Of`Control |
GnomeKris: yes from server |
21:50 |
GnomeKris |
If you are a mod of the server, there are a few server commands to remove and possibly block users from your server. |
21:51 |
Out`Of`Control |
GnomeKris: can you link me to it? |
21:51 |
GnomeKris |
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjmqN-cooDNAhXBQCYKHWlSBJ8QFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.minetest.com%2Fwiki%2FServer_commands&usg=AFQjCNHutkzkBgsOqS5_VHXGAXf0ojKLiQ&sig2=trshTXHFvAqJn3Dl64OZzw&bvm=bv.123325700,d.eWE |
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Out`Of`Control |
GnomeKris: not ban, just delete from auth.txt |
21:51 |
GnomeKris |
.... |
21:51 |
GnomeKris |
I almost sent you a lmgtfy link |
21:52 |
GnomeKris |
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minetest+server+commands |
21:52 |
Out`Of`Control |
google love you |
21:53 |
GnomeKris |
http://bfy.tw/60eh |
21:53 |
Out`Of`Control |
i don't see it |
21:53 |
Out`Of`Control |
delete player from auth.txt |
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vktec |
Out`Of`Control: Why not just edit auth.txt? |
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Out`Of`Control |
vktec: while game is running? |
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vktec |
I don't see why not |
21:54 |
GnomeKris |
sure, why not? |
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GnomeKris |
running on linux Out`Of`Control |
21:55 |
GnomeKris |
??? |
21:55 |
Out`Of`Control |
GnomeKris: debian |
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Out`Of`Control |
gnu/linux |
21:56 |
GnomeKris |
open terminal and use sudo to open auth.txt in your favorite text editor like "sudo gedit /path/to/auth.txt" |
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GnomeKris |
edit, save, close |
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GnomeKris |
done |
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Out`Of`Control |
what if new player join while i edite? |
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GnomeKris |
might kick them, might not. who knows. |
21:56 |
vktec |
Better yet |
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vktec |
cat auth.txt|grep -v 'name_of_player' >auth.txt |
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GnomeKris |
ah, cat works well. I'm just thinking a gui is simpler. |
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Out`Of`Control |
server has no gui |
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vktec |
Then go with my command |
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GnomeKris |
Well, there you go then. |
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Out`Of`Control |
ty |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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swift110 |
about to install some mods |
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GnomeKris |
using the directions from the github to build minetest...I get cmake errors |
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GnomeKris |
http://pastebin.com/zZMvn69t |
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Out`Of`Control |
GnomeKris vktec you can not edite auth.txt while game runs, as its loaded |
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Out`Of`Control |
good that i made a backup |
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vktec |
Out`Of`Control: Ah, okay |
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GnomeKris |
hmmm.... |
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Fixer |
FEEL THE BUG |
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Glorfindel |
!server xanadu |
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MinetestBot |
Glorfindel: No results |
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Glorfindel |
!help server |
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MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
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Glorfindel |
eyeroooooll |
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GnomeKris |
What do these cmake errors mean? |
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GnomeKris |
http://pastebin.com/n3V9791s |
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GnomeKris |
!xanadu |
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GnomeKris |
ha, that didn't work. |
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GnomeKris |
do I need sudo when using cmake? |
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LazyJ |
GnomeKris, what flavor of Linux are you using? |
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GnomeKris |
Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 |
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GnomeKris |
tried sudo cmake...no change |
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LazyJ |
Did you run the full "sudo apt-get install..." that is in the README.txt file? |
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LazyJ |
Also run Synaptic and install luajit and it's "-dev" files. |
23:31 |
Glorfindel |
!server Xanadu |
23:31 |
MinetestBot |
Glorfindel: No results |
23:32 |
LazyJ |
And just for good measure, after installing all the libraries, reboot your system to make sure things are settled in solidly. |
23:32 |
GnomeKris |
I missed a few of the libraries...oops. |
23:32 |
GnomeKris |
lemme get those installed and I'll get back to you. |
23:32 |
Glorfindel |
joining new servers is so much work ;( |
23:33 |
Glorfindel |
takes forever to download the media on my poky network |
23:33 |
LazyJ |
I recommend compiling with RUN_IN_PLACE, it keeps Minetest and all its mods, textures, and worlds under one directory - easier to fiddle with stuff and you'll have to do that with Minetest eventually. |
23:35 |
GnomeKris |
Yeah, I used "cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE" as suggested by the github. |
23:36 |
GnomeKris |
It spat out errors after installing the libraries, so I deleted the error log file and tried again in order to pinpoint the errors...got a success on the next try |
23:40 |
LazyJ |
I download the zipped versions from GitHub, extract, and compile. If I fubar the compile, I delete and re-extract just to make sure I'm starting with a clean slate. |
23:41 |
LazyJ |
The Cmake I use has more in it: |
23:41 |
LazyJ |
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23:41 |
LazyJ |
cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DBUILD_CLIENT=1 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=RelWithDebInfo -DENABLE_CURL=ON -DENABLE_FREETYPE=ON -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_GLES=1 -DENABLE_LUAJIT=1 -DENABLE_SOUND=ON -DENABLE_SPATIAL=1 -DENABLE_SYSTEM_GMP=1 |
23:42 |
LazyJ |
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23:43 |
LazyJ |
I'm running Linux Mint 17.3 which is based on Ubuntu 14.04 so things *should* be (fingers crossed) similar to your OS. |
23:43 |
LazyJ |
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23:44 |
GnomeKris |
What are each of those options you have specified in your cmake? |
23:44 |
Sokomine |
hi |
23:44 |
Sokomine |
how can i get rid of protection_bypass in singleplayer? |
23:44 |
LazyJ |
They are listed in the README.txt a bit farther down from the "sudo apt-get install..." part. |
23:44 |
GnomeKris |
I've already passed the make command and I'm at about 30%. So I'd have to wait till it completes before I could even think about starting over |
23:45 |
LazyJ |
GnomeKris, if you have more than one core on your machine, use a higher "make -j<number>". |
23:45 |
LazyJ |
2 less than the number of cores you have. |
23:46 |
LazyJ |
So if you have 8 cores, use "make -j6" and the compile will go much faster. |
23:46 |
GnomeKris |
I don't even remember how many cores my processor has...pretty sure it's four. |
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23:46 |
GnomeKris |
but, if it's just to speed things up, then I don't mind. |
23:46 |
LazyJ |
I shut down all heavy programs when I run that (no YouTube, no games, nothing more intense than reading the news in my web browser). |
23:47 |
LazyJ |
The j number only speeds up the compiling process, no affect on the actual game performance. |
23:47 |
GnomeKris |
Yeah, I have this, steam, chrome, terminal running make, and gedit reading the readme.txt... |
23:48 |
GnomeKris |
Not even lagging right now. |
23:48 |
GnomeKris |
But, I didn't specify any -j options in make, so it's most likely using minimal cores |
23:48 |
afflatus |
Get rid of it Sokomine? you mean disable it? |
23:49 |
Sokomine |
afflatus: yes. i'm trying to test something protection-related. which is where the bypass is very...unhelpful |
23:50 |
afflatus |
Ah ok. I'm trying to remember if it was configurable |
23:51 |
afflatus |
wait |
23:51 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: why??? |
23:51 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: ah |
23:51 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: how am i to test protection (and work with it) if it's disabled due to the override? |
23:52 |
afflatus |
/revoke singleplayer protection_bypass |
23:52 |
GnomeKris |
all done. and it runs fine...now to remember how to create an icon for it in my apps list |
23:52 |
sofar |
Sokomine: favorite of mine: second player that doesn't have permissions |
23:52 |
Sokomine |
afflatus: that does not seem to work |
23:53 |
Sokomine |
hmmmm |
23:53 |
sofar |
don't use singleplayer |
23:54 |
afflatus |
I've got a hunch about protection, particularly shared protection in multiplayer |
23:54 |
Sokomine |
doesn't even seem to work if i select another player? |
23:54 |
afflatus |
We keep getting these 'bermuda triangle' areas |
23:55 |
sofar |
Sokomine: did you log in with 2 users at the same time? |
23:55 |
Sokomine |
no. just one |
23:55 |
sofar |
if you start a server from the gui, the first user gets ALL permissions |
23:55 |
sofar |
so you need to start with minetestserver, or connect a second client |
23:56 |
Sokomine |
hmm. and a player who wants to have a nice little survival game on his local machine basically can't? |
23:56 |
GnomeKris |
does anyone know if Xanadu is still operational? |
23:56 |
afflatus |
It's down right now |
23:56 |
sofar |
Sokomine: I didn't invent that, I think it's weird as well |
23:57 |
afflatus |
tbut generally still operational |
23:57 |
GnomeKris |
thanks afflatus |
23:57 |
Sokomine |
other privs are less problematic. at least you can stop flying if you don#t want to |
23:57 |
Out`Of`Control |
Sokomine: grant yourself all privs? |
23:57 |
Sokomine |
Out`Of`Control: well, the trouble is that there's one priv i can't get rid of which interferes with my work |
23:58 |
Out`Of`Control |
LazyJ: 1 means No or Yes? |
23:59 |
afflatus |
1 is usually true |
23:59 |
Out`Of`Control |
Sokomine: creative? |
23:59 |
LazyJ |
Out`Of`Control, not sure. The "0/1" option always confuses me so I have to look it up. |
23:59 |
sofar |
Sokomine: only reason I know this ... I've bumped into exactly the same problem myself |
23:59 |
Out`Of`Control |
afflatus: i see thanks |
23:59 |
Out`Of`Control |
LazyJ: same here |