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basil60 |
Hi I have my own remote server that seems to die occasionally. Is there an easy way I can test if there's a problem with my Minetest server - I have offered it to some schools to use instead of Minecraft, so it needs to be up most of the time. |
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ShadowNinja |
basil60: Is there anything relevant in your server logs (debug.txt or stdout)? |
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basil60 |
shadowninja: I'll have another look |
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basil60 |
shadowninja: nothing in debug.txt |
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ShadowNinja |
basil60: As in it's empty or it has logs but nothing relevant like a shutdown? If the latter, it's probably a network issue. |
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basil60 |
shadowninja: lots of info, but nothing about shutdown. I guess I can ask the host if they were down, but don't like my chances of getting a reply. Might have to install some notification software to moniotr it |
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ShadowNinja |
basil60: Well, if your host's support is that bad, their infra is probably not great either. I'd be a bit more sure before opening a ticket though. Perhaps check if ping/ssh works when MT seems down. |
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sofar |
how does the server run? is it through systemd? |
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basil60 |
sofar: no idea - it's a remote Ubuntu 12.04 server I pay for |
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sofar |
upstart then |
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sofar |
can't help you with that, check messages in /var/log |
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basil60 |
sofar:thanks |
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Krock |
Calinou, holy fuck. Someone sent me such a huge PM that my conncetion timed out :3 |
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Krock |
due of high CPU usage. |
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jin_xi |
ddos |
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Krock |
it was a stupid simple and single PM |
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sfan5 |
Krock: maybe you should be using a proper irc client |
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Krock |
sfan5, huh? It was in-game |
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sfan5 |
uh oh |
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sfan5 |
donate to minetest development i guess |
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asie |
time to give minetest another go |
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asie |
anything worth checking out from 2015? |
| 11:13 |
asie |
"games", "mods" (i'll never get used to the terminology) |
| 11:19 |
asie |
hmm |
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asie |
since when is the GUI tweakable this well? |
| 11:20 |
asie |
fired up carbone-ng |
| 11:20 |
asie |
at this point my primary GUI nitpick that's not fixable is probably that the chat is on the top-left and not monospace |
| 11:20 |
asie |
and that chat typing opens up a window |
| 11:22 |
asie |
also, something you might care about from the minecraft world |
| 11:22 |
asie |
spacetoad will likely soon release his work to the public domain. this includes early versions of buildcraft in their entirety |
| 11:24 |
asie |
I should take my concepts to Minetest again and see how quickly I run into a roadblock |
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asie |
anyhow, i'm excited to be giving minetest another go |
| 11:33 |
Calinou |
monospace chat is not as easy to read |
| 11:33 |
Calinou |
asie, now, chat opens a small console |
| 11:33 |
Calinou |
I find that console too small |
| 11:33 |
asie |
i disagree, I always use monospace on IRC and i'm used to it |
| 11:33 |
asie |
anyhow |
| 11:33 |
asie |
i am upgrading from 0.4.13 to dev now |
| 11:34 |
asie |
okay that's pretty cool |
| 11:34 |
Calinou |
you can change the font to be monospace everywhere |
| 11:34 |
Calinou |
in minetest.conf |
| 11:34 |
asie |
yay |
| 11:34 |
Calinou |
also, now I'm hosting rubenwardy's CTF server |
| 11:35 |
Calinou |
it has 20 constant players... and lag spikes :( |
| 11:35 |
Calinou |
Minetest server is not very efficient in CPU terms |
| 11:35 |
asie |
neither is Minecraft's |
| 11:35 |
asie |
but one of these can be easier to fix |
| 11:35 |
asie |
for everyone |
| 11:35 |
Calinou |
Minecraft can probably have like 30 players on my VPS |
| 11:35 |
Calinou |
(4 CPUs, 4 GB RAM, 64 GB SSD, 100 Mb/s, Ubuntu Server 14.04) |
| 11:35 |
asie |
huh |
| 11:36 |
asie |
so what's the problem? |
| 11:36 |
asie |
is anyone doing any benchmarking? |
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| 11:36 |
Calinou |
CPU is saturated, one of the cores is at 80-100% |
| 11:36 |
asie |
i'm going to have a lot of free time in a month |
| 11:36 |
asie |
i might be able to help - but i'm not a C++ fan |
| 11:36 |
Calinou |
I used to run dedicated_server_step = 0.05 but had to stop doing that |
| 11:37 |
asie |
did you do any profiling yet? |
| 11:39 |
Calinou |
not specifically |
| 11:39 |
asie |
you should |
| 11:39 |
Calinou |
it's running the CTF subgame, with dummy backend |
| 11:39 |
Calinou |
so IO should not be a problem |
| 11:39 |
asie |
it's eating the CPU |
| 11:40 |
asie |
minecraft modders have devised a large suite of tools to debug performance. minetest should look into doing similar |
| 11:40 |
Calinou |
the profiler is only on the client currently, I think |
| 11:41 |
asie |
i might make my own game again |
| 11:41 |
asie |
i have some ideas for a technological one |
| 11:41 |
asie |
but unlike the typical minecraft technic |
| 11:42 |
asie |
but i'd like to ensure i don't run into massive performance issues |
| 11:43 |
asie |
i'd been joking around about porting buildcraft to minetest sometimes |
| 11:43 |
asie |
but nowadays it actually sounds feasible. almost all textures are open and huge chunks of algorithms are too |
| 11:43 |
asie |
i definitely want to port over CharsetPipes, my pipe system concept |
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asie |
also, any news on native libraries for Lua mods? |
| 11:48 |
asie |
some ideas of mine would require some performance boosting |
| 11:48 |
asie |
though i suppose LuaJIT is a thing |
| 11:52 |
Calinou |
I wanted to make an high-performance mobs mod |
| 11:52 |
Calinou |
but I don't see a lot of optimizations possible in PilzAdam's simple mobs |
| 11:53 |
asie |
LuaJIT 2.1 might help |
| 11:53 |
asie |
but it's still in beta |
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Fixer |
Calinou, i think mod_profiler can be used on server |
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asie |
also, what's the status on the grand schism? |
| 12:10 |
Fixer |
wat? |
| 12:10 |
asie |
minetest/freeminer |
| 12:10 |
Fixer |
ask proller, he is often here |
| 12:10 |
Fixer |
or look into github commit page |
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sfan5 |
>also, any news on native libraries for Lua mods? |
| 12:13 |
sfan5 |
you could use them from the start but there's obviously the problem with compatibility |
| 12:13 |
asie |
of course |
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asie |
but if your mod is free software that should not matter much |
| 12:14 |
asie |
just make it reproducible |
| 12:14 |
sfan5 |
also the wonderful "security" features will prevent you from using native libs |
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sfan5 |
you need to put your mod into a special config settings |
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sfan5 |
iirc |
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sfan5 |
<Calinou> also, now I'm hosting rubenwardy's CTF server |
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sfan5 |
huh |
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sfan5 |
still on DO? |
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sfan5 |
!py __import__("json").loads(__import__("os").popen("curl -s http://ipinfo.io/$(dig +short minetest.rubenwardy.com)").read()) |
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MinetestBot |
ValueError: Expecting value: line 1 column 1 (char 0) (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/json/decoder.py", line 361, in raw_decode) |
| 12:19 |
sfan5 |
damnit |
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Calinou |
sfan5, nope |
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sfan5 |
>network.paris |
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sfan5 |
now that's a wonderful domain |
| 12:21 |
Calinou |
.paris used to be pretty expensive |
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est31 |
is it still |
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Calinou |
I think it still is |
| 12:21 |
est31 |
I think all these new TLDs are |
| 12:27 |
Fixer |
http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/get-tomorrows-date.jpg |
| 12:28 |
est31 |
lol |
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asie |
Fixer: this code will not work if you run it at exactly midnight on a day with a leap second |
| 12:29 |
est31 |
yeah asie is right |
| 12:29 |
fireglow |
Is this lagging for anybody else? https://www.twitch.tv/fireglow |
| 12:29 |
est31 |
twitch isn't 100% realtime afaik |
| 12:29 |
est31 |
there can be lag of up to 1-3 minutes i think |
| 12:30 |
sfan5 |
looks fluent to me |
| 12:30 |
sfan5 |
if that's what you meant |
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asie |
est31: i recommend beam.pro myself, i use it |
| 12:30 |
fireglow |
yes sfan5 that's what I meant =) |
| 12:30 |
asie |
lag is ~2-3 seconds, if you're a partner they give you access to a beta feature which goes down to 0.25-0.5 seconds... usually |
| 12:30 |
asie |
(they'll release it publicly later) |
| 12:31 |
est31 |
lol doesnt work |
| 12:31 |
est31 |
"try installing flash or getting a supported browser" |
| 12:31 |
est31 |
"like firefox, chrome etc" |
| 12:32 |
est31 |
and guess what I have, firefox |
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PilzAdam |
twitch doesn't work without flash |
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PilzAdam |
it only works with hls on macs, AFAIK |
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est31 |
seems to work now |
| 12:34 |
est31 |
weird |
| 12:34 |
est31 |
PilzAdam, beam.pro works without flash as well |
| 12:35 |
sfan5 |
or you just use a command line player |
| 12:35 |
sfan5 |
like mpv |
| 12:35 |
est31 |
livestreamer ftw |
| 12:36 |
fireglow |
livestreamer works GREAT with twitch |
| 12:36 |
PilzAdam |
"It looks like your browser doesn't support our HTML5 player and Flash isn't installed. Consider enabling Flash or trying a supported browser (Chrome, Edge, Safari, Opera, IE11, or Firefox) " |
| 12:36 |
PilzAdam |
from beam.pro |
| 12:37 |
sfan5 |
est31: why would you use an inferior solution that pipes data into your video player if you could use native support in mpv? |
| 12:38 |
PilzAdam |
twitch.tv isn't even showing an error message for me |
| 12:39 |
est31 |
PilzAdam, refresh |
| 12:39 |
est31 |
it didnt work the first time for me either |
| 12:39 |
est31 |
then i refreshed |
| 12:39 |
est31 |
now it works |
| 12:41 |
est31 |
im watching a minecraft lets play right now |
| 12:41 |
est31 |
very interesting in which ways the game differs from minetest |
| 12:42 |
PilzAdam |
doesn't work for me |
| 12:42 |
est31 |
which browser do you use |
| 12:44 |
PilzAdam |
firefox |
| 12:45 |
est31 |
version? |
| 12:45 |
PilzAdam |
45.0 |
| 12:46 |
PilzAdam |
beam.pro shows me "The video took too long to load, falling back to Flash!" in the console |
| 12:46 |
est31 |
hmm |
| 12:46 |
Krock |
est31, what's the biggest difference between Minetest and Minecraft you've noticed yet? |
| 12:46 |
est31 |
what does https://www.youtube.com/html5 say |
| 12:47 |
est31 |
there are some differences |
| 12:47 |
est31 |
the chat is in the lower left corner |
| 12:47 |
est31 |
if you dig a block there is a very weird animation |
| 12:48 |
PilzAdam |
est31, everything blue ticks on yt/html5 |
| 12:49 |
PilzAdam |
ha! twitch https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=CHANNEL_ID&html5 works if I allow mixed active content |
| 12:50 |
est31 |
interesting |
| 12:50 |
est31 |
this guy works https://beam.pro/DubstepClown |
| 12:50 |
est31 |
while this doesnt https://beam.pro/Tish |
| 12:52 |
PilzAdam |
the first one works for me toow |
| 12:52 |
PilzAdam |
-w |
| 12:52 |
PilzAdam |
although it has to buffer a lot |
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* Markow |
likes the Google Chrome (development version) browser most ;) |
| 12:55 |
est31 |
I confirm https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=fireglow&html5 works without lag |
| 12:56 |
est31 |
nice lol "[h264 @ 0x7fc0ba7f0800] illegal short term buffer state detected" |
| 12:56 |
PilzAdam |
https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=moondye7&html5 shows me a "uncaught exception: Assertion failed" in console |
| 12:56 |
est31 |
(printed to my stdout) |
| 12:57 |
Preuk |
hi |
| 12:57 |
fireglow |
est31: nice, thank you =) |
| 12:57 |
Preuk |
i'm currently looking at mapgen, according to dev wiki we can now modify woldgen without touching core? |
| 12:58 |
est31 |
Preuk, yes there is a mapgen modding api for lua |
| 12:58 |
Preuk |
is there any recent (>= 0.4.13) mod that make intensive use of it? |
| 12:59 |
est31 |
yes there are quite some lua mapgen mods |
| 12:59 |
Preuk |
most of those i found only use standard mapgen parameters to add ore, etc. |
| 13:00 |
est31 |
I guess there are mods that still do singlenode mapgen |
| 13:00 |
Preuk |
i'm looking for one of those ... |
| 13:00 |
Preuk |
i have an idea, must check if it's doable |
| 13:01 |
est31 |
this should be one https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11430 |
| 13:01 |
Preuk |
wait, valleys is lua based ? |
| 13:01 |
Preuk |
https://github.com/Gael-de-Sailly/valleys_mapgen |
| 13:01 |
est31 |
there is a lua and a c++ version |
| 13:01 |
est31 |
i linked to the lua version |
| 13:01 |
Preuk |
thx |
| 13:01 |
est31 |
the c++ is in core already |
| 13:01 |
est31 |
this as well https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14348 |
| 13:02 |
Preuk |
yes, had a look at the core version from nighly |
| 13:02 |
est31 |
yeah loud walking is singlenode https://github.com/duane-r/loud_walking/blob/master/init.lua#L18 |
| 13:03 |
Preuk |
nice, thank you |
| 13:03 |
est31 |
np |
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germanuel24 |
Can the register_on_chat_message() function be used to prevent the message from being sent to the chat? Right now I#m looking at the ignore mod code but it's not clear to me how that works |
| 13:35 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1896 |
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germanuel24 |
Thanks a lot |
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AndDT |
sfan5: it's not native solution afaik. mpv uses youtube-dl --get-url |
| 14:05 |
sfan5 |
better than piping stream data into the player |
| 14:05 |
AndDT |
Agreed |
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Calinou |
Markow, I upgraded to Chromium 52 today |
| 14:06 |
Calinou |
http://chromium.woolyss.com |
| 14:06 |
Calinou |
use the Nik build, it's the most complete one, also you can get one without the sync/WebRTC |
| 14:06 |
Calinou |
both available in stable and dev versions |
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germanuel24 |
Does register_on_chat_message() handle Pms as well? |
| 14:14 |
Calinou |
PMs are commands, so the question is, does it handle commands. |
| 14:14 |
Calinou |
not sure |
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germanuel24 |
Cause i'm trying to implement a mute function...but of course the user should still be allowed to send Pms |
| 14:15 |
Calinou |
you can revoke their "shout" privilege |
| 14:15 |
Calinou |
if you want them to still be able to send PMs, edit the builtin Lua code or override it |
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germanuel24 |
shout is required for Pms too? |
| 14:18 |
Calinou |
yes, it requires "shout" |
| 14:18 |
Calinou |
just checked, builtin/game/chatcommands.lua |
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germanuel24 |
Okay i will try with chat commands...so you say if chat commands still work then Pms also work right? |
| 14:22 |
Calinou |
yes |
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germanuel24 |
Pms still work just tested...i did it via a file thats named after the player..and on each message the game checks whether the file exists |
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Markow |
Calinou: Just got back from outside walking on my injured calf muscle (rehabiliation). How do you like Chromium? I prefer Chrome. |
| 14:40 |
Markow |
*rehabilitation |
| 14:40 |
Markow |
lol |
| 14:40 |
Markow |
Injured my calf muscle after I hopped on top of a small mound here in rural country |
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Calinou |
Chromium is exactly the same, except that it doesn't phone home as much |
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Markow |
Chrome also has Pepper Flash |
| 14:43 |
Markow |
I don't think Chromium has that |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
it can do |
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sfan5 |
you can install the flash from chrome in chromium |
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Markow |
I never tried this, but would regular Adobe 'flash' be compatible with Chrome / Chromium? |
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Markow |
Pepper Flash is slightly different I believe, custom built by Chrome devs |
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sfan5 |
Markow: you can install the pepperflash from chrome in chromium |
| 14:56 |
Markow |
Understood ;) |
| 14:57 |
Markow |
Chrome / Chromium overall much more robust than FF, IMO |
| 14:57 |
Fixer |
use Chromium ._. |
| 14:58 |
Markow |
I used FF last over 1 year ago...no more. |
| 14:58 |
Fixer |
i still prefer FF over Chrome (Chrome is kinda crippled) |
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mib_83ftw8 |
I also prefer FF over Chrome :-) |
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Fixer |
ugh |
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Markow |
Bleh! ;) |
| 15:08 |
Fixer |
i've installed two updates already and that damn windows updates still eats 50% of cpu :/ |
| 15:08 |
Fixer |
and shitton of memory |
| 15:08 |
Markow |
Fixer: Have you tried Linux yet? |
| 15:08 |
Fixer |
it is not my computer |
| 15:08 |
Fixer |
yes, i've tried |
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Markow |
Ah |
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Fixer |
i wonder if i go to take a s*** now and go back and see if it still eats 50% cpu |
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Fixer |
hmm |
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Fixer |
still eats cpu |
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Fixer |
and mem |
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Fixer |
oh well |
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Fixer |
and i took a s*** much faster than that |
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Krock |
Fixer, you may write "shit" uncensored here. |
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Fixer |
ok, so, i've started "search updates", go take a shit, after that I littered around the house for 5-10 minutes and after I've approached computer problem persisted |
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AndDT |
Guys, I had some protectors on Xanadu server. I connected a moment ago and found out that they are belong to another player |
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AndDT |
How can that be? |
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Fixer |
looks like really deep shit, i will try some .cmd scripts *cough* |
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Markow |
lol |
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PilzAdam |
Fixer, https://kubuntu.org/ |
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Fixer |
PilzAdam, nah, i've heared kubuntu sucks, xubuntu is better, or even mint |
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Fixer |
not my computer |
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PilzAdam |
ever heard of live systems? |
| 15:34 |
PilzAdam |
you can run whatever you like from an USB drive |
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PilzAdam |
(and you should if it's not your computer you are using) |
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PilzAdam |
you keep on coming here and complaining for days now, but the fix for your problem is so simple |
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Fixer |
they need win7, not linux |
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Markow |
Only Linux or FreeBSD |
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Markow |
Unix is addictive ;) |
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* Fixer |
wonders if freedos is released |
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AndDT |
latest is 1.1 afaik |
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AndDT |
But I still use 1.0 on my pentium-mmx 166 |
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Fixer |
1.2 was planned for release, but not yet |
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est31 |
<Markow> Unix is addictive ;) |
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est31 |
+1 |
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* twoelk |
is just updating a new xubuntu installation on yet another pretty borked windows laptop |
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twoelk |
for example it complains about a stuck key in w7 while not so in xubuntu - beats me |
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twoelk |
argh!! - Laptop rebooted while building Minetest :-( |
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Calinou |
Clementine 1.3 was released |
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Calinou |
here's a major highlight: http://i.imgur.com/DY45pKX.png |
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rubenwardy |
Ban potentially waranteed: https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?author_id=18953&sr=posts |
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hmmmm |
the way I understand it, a topic about a Server is for all discussion relating specifically to that server |
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hmmmm |
is a complaint about its moderation not discussion relating to the server? |
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Calinou |
people are supposed to use the server topic anyway |
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rubenwardy |
it is. The problem I have is the excessive spam he's posting |
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hmmmm |
i agree his posts could be higher quality, but it's definitely not a reason to ban that user |
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twoelk |
he opened a new thread for complaining |
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rubenwardy |
If he stops spamming so much, it's fine |
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Calinou |
he's done quadruple posts |
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hmmmm |
they seem to all be contained to "Re: Xanadu Server" ? |
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rubenwardy |
and the Xandu server complaint forum |
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hmmmm |
point out in the rules that it says doubleposting is not allowed, never mind quadruple posting |
| 17:49 |
hmmmm |
rubenwardy, I am not seeing it in that link. |
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Calinou |
we don't have rules set in stone actually, since the migration to phpBB |
| 17:49 |
hmmmm |
so then tell him to stop double posting, and then make it a rule |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
so some people are wandering around with animated avatars, for example :) |
| 17:50 |
hmmmm |
there are many better ways to deal with somebody like this rather than banning them |
| 17:50 |
hmmmm |
banning should be a last resort unless it's clear they aren't an actual person |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
I agree, but sometimes cooldowns don't hurt |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
so, temporary banning makes sense |
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Calinou |
they could also get a warning but they seem to have really bad faith |
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hmmmm |
that just creates resentment |
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hmmmm |
just send a PM telling him what he's doing wrong, why he's doing it, and to please stop doing it. how much effort does that take? |
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Calinou |
I have a feeling that won't help much |
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hmmmm |
if you're moderating the public minetest forum, please do it with respect to freedom of speech |
| 17:52 |
hmmmm |
if you're moderating your own forum, do whatever you want |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
freedom of speech always has limits, in any country, and anywhere |
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PilzAdam |
Calinou, is it possible to mute people? so they can still post but nobody can read their posts, and they wouldn't notice it? |
| 17:53 |
Calinou |
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png :) |
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Calinou |
PilzAdam, I don't think phpBB offers shadowbanning out of the box, also I think it's bad treatment |
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PilzAdam |
it's the best way to deal with actual trolls |
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twoelk |
actually he has calmed down a bit - he is not using all caps as much anymore |
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rubenwardy |
I agree he should be PM'd first if his spam persists, that's why I said "potential" as it could turn into one |
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hmmmm |
calinou, there seems to be a confusion between "free speech rights" and the concept of "free speech" |
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hmmmm |
i support the concept of free speech, and so should everybody |
| 18:19 |
hmmmm |
which means they should be supporting free speech whenever it's possible for them to do so |
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hmmmm |
just because free speech is afforded by your government under limited circumstances doesn't mean somebody's free speech stops there |
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hmmmm |
that just means the onus is on private entities and individuals to see the concept gets carried out through the rest of society |
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hmmmm |
pasting an xkcd comic doesn't strengthen your point either imho |
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cimbakahn |
Does anyone know where i can find this house ----> http://zenway.ru/uploads/11_12/minetest_015.jpeg |
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cimbakahn |
Like in a schematic or world. |
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VanessaE |
cimbakahn: I believe that's on my creative server just east of the spawn |
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VanessaE |
https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/tree/master/buildings/worldedit one of the two "VanessaE_Home*" files here, I think |
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cimbakahn |
I believe it is, but i would like to have that house in my singleplayer world. Do you know where i can get it like in a schematic or world? |
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cimbakahn |
Ok. |
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cimbakahn |
Thank you Vanessa! You're a darling! |
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VanessaE |
no prob |
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twoelk |
just was on VEC - boy them cheapie towers and bulldog enterprises are slowly creaping up to my realm :-D |
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cimbakahn |
I would like to take this time to thank all of the modders out there, (every one of you) because without you i wouldn't be having all of this fun with minetest. |
| 18:28 |
cimbakahn |
Does anyone know where i can get the mod that has kittens in it? |
| 18:32 |
twoelk |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Mobs somewhat outdated list of mobs mods (note to self to spend more time updating the wiki) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Boats: Increase maximum velocity to 5n/s f8e273d https://git.io/vwLNT (2016-04-16T19:27:47+01:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] tenplus1 -> minetest/minetest_game: Flowers: Tweak flower and mushroom spreading 9ece86c https://git.io/vwLNk (2016-04-16T19:27:41+01:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Change how dirt turns to dirt_with_(something) 7d93272 https://git.io/vwLNI (2016-04-16T19:27:34+01:00) |
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AndDT |
hm |
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AndDT |
when i do % git clone --mirror git://github.com/minetest/minetest , size of cloned repo is over 80 mb |
| 18:40 |
AndDT |
but when I do % git clone --mirror file:///.../minetest , size of minetest.git directory is ~40 mb |
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H-H-H |
yes because its the whole source code repository copied to your pc |
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AndDT |
It is, in both cases above |
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Markow |
AndDT: Solution: Run, git clone --depth 1 git://github.com/minetest/minetest. "depth 1" includes only what is required to compile, and not the entire commit history. |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
AndDT, Git repositories also contain history |
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Calinou |
by default, that is |
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Markow |
I do the same (--depth 1) when extracting the latest source code for the Linux kernel. |
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AndDT |
I know |
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AndDT |
I just wonder why .git directory from working tree has size 40mb, and mirror repo (only .git directory, without working tree), which contains all the same commit, has 2x bigger size |
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asie |
researching the viability of a homebrew 3DS Minetest port... someone would have to go and finish Caelina |
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asie |
hmm. |
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asie |
how much memory does Minetest eat in a light situation? |
| 18:59 |
asie |
a bit much. |
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cimbakahn |
VanessaE: I love your humor! I just was looking at a mod and noticed your comment on it. |
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VanessaE |
which comment? |
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cimbakahn |
On this page ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2383 |
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cimbakahn |
Your first comment. |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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cimbakahn |
I also loved your comment on the page about controllers. As in which controller do you use to play minetest. |
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cimbakahn |
Your second comment on this page ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1755 |
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cimbakahn |
I love your humor. |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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cimbakahn |
Anyone know where the kitten mod is? |
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VanessaE |
no idea |
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CWz |
VanessaE, hey |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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cimbakahn |
Just thought i'd let you know this mod doesn't work at all ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10456 Running 0.4.13 |
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Krock |
c'mon, discuss it. |
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Calinou |
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4f1o7b/wow_clementine_13_is_out_after_almost_3_years/d2562ld |
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Calinou |
-52 points! |
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twoelk |
ok, tried to map a world saved to local while still online - mapper won, client crashed. |
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Fixer |
LOL |
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GreenDimond |
I NEED A QUICK QUESTION ANSWERED!!! |
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GreenDimond |
SOMEONE!!! |
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GreenDimond |
ANYONE? |
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GreenDimond |
AAAHHHHHH |
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GreenDimond |
IS ANYONE THERE?!?!?!?! |
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Calinou |
GreenDimond, yes |
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GreenDimond |
I NEED HELP!!! |
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Calinou |
no need for caps or shouting |
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GreenDimond |
Does anyone know the IRC for shivajivas Skyblock? |
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Calinou |
no, maybe they don't have one |
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Calinou |
ask on their server :) |
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GreenDimond |
I know they do |
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GreenDimond |
I cant get on. |
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GreenDimond |
I dont know what it is |
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GreenDimond |
:(] |
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GreenDimond |
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH |
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GreenDimond |
~hi |
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ShadowBot |
Hello GreenDimond! |
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Fixer |
!rainbow oh crap |
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MinetestBot |
4oh7 c8ra3p |
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rom1504 |
!rainbow !rainbow |
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MinetestBot |
4!r7ai8nb3ow |
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rom1504 |
GreenDimond: can you teach me to yell in irc ? |
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rom1504 |
seems like a usefull skill |
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GreenDimond |
Huh? |
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GreenDimond |
Why do you say that? |
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rom1504 |
because you're pretty good at yelling in irc ! |
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rom1504 |
so you can probably teach it |
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rom1504 |
so other people can get great results from this technique |
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GreenDimond |
Im so confused. |
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GreenDimond |
Do you know shivajiva's skyblock irc? |
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rom1504 |
GreenDimond: what make you say they have one ? |
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GreenDimond |
Because ive been there and they have one |
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GreenDimond |
(the server) |
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rom1504 |
ok |
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rom1504 |
so go there again and get the irc server address ? |
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GreenDimond |
i cant get on the server |
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GreenDimond |
idk y |
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GreenDimond |
thats y i need the irc |
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rubenwardy |
GreenDimond, connect to inchra.net, it's probably there |
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GreenDimond |
ty i found it |
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cimbakahn |
Hello! |
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yang2003 |
hi |
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cimbakahn |
I am trying to create a nether portal. So far it is not working. I built it 4 across by 5 high with obsidian. I shook a mese crystal fragment at it many times and nothing happened. |
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cimbakahn |
I found the mod here ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5790 |
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cimbakahn |
Do i have it correct? Is it 4 across by 5 high with obsidian? |
