Time  Nick        Message
04:13 basil60     Hi I have my own remote server that seems to die occasionally. Is there an easy way I can test if there's a problem with my Minetest server - I have offered it to some schools to use instead of Minecraft, so it needs to be up most of the time.
04:51 ShadowNinja basil60: Is there anything relevant in your server logs (debug.txt or stdout)?
05:03 basil60     shadowninja: I'll have another look
05:12 basil60     shadowninja: nothing in debug.txt
05:16 ShadowNinja basil60: As in it's empty or it has logs but nothing relevant like a shutdown?  If the latter, it's probably a network issue.
05:18 basil60     shadowninja: lots of info, but nothing about shutdown. I guess I can ask the host if they were down, but don't like my chances of getting a reply. Might have to install some notification software to moniotr it
05:22 ShadowNinja basil60: Well, if your host's support is that bad, their infra is probably not great either.  I'd be a bit more sure before opening a ticket though.  Perhaps check if ping/ssh works when MT seems down.
05:27 sofar       how does the server run? is it through systemd?
05:28 basil60     sofar: no idea - it's a remote Ubuntu 12.04 server I pay for
05:29 sofar       upstart then
05:29 sofar       can't help you with that, check messages in /var/log
05:32 basil60     sofar:thanks
09:22 Krock       Calinou, holy fuck. Someone sent me such a huge PM that my conncetion timed out :3
09:22 Krock       due of high CPU usage.
09:23 jin_xi      ddos
09:23 Krock       it was a stupid simple and single PM
09:55 sfan5       Krock: maybe you should be using a proper irc client
09:56 Krock       sfan5, huh? It was in-game
09:56 sfan5       uh oh
09:57 sfan5       donate to minetest development i guess
11:12 asie        time to give minetest another go
11:12 asie        anything worth checking out from 2015?
11:13 asie        "games", "mods" (i'll never get used to the terminology)
11:19 asie        hmm
11:19 asie        since when is the GUI tweakable this well?
11:20 asie        fired up carbone-ng
11:20 asie        at this point my primary GUI nitpick that's not fixable is probably that the chat is on the top-left and not monospace
11:20 asie        and that chat typing opens up a window
11:22 asie        also, something you might care about from the minecraft world
11:22 asie        spacetoad will likely soon release his work to the public domain. this includes early versions of buildcraft in their entirety
11:24 asie        I should take my concepts to Minetest again and see how quickly I run into a roadblock
11:32 asie        anyhow, i'm excited to be giving minetest another go
11:33 Calinou     monospace chat is not as easy to read
11:33 Calinou     asie, now, chat opens a small console
11:33 Calinou     I find that console too small
11:33 asie        i disagree, I always use monospace on IRC and i'm used to it
11:33 asie        anyhow
11:33 asie        i am upgrading from 0.4.13 to dev now
11:34 asie        okay that's pretty cool
11:34 Calinou     you can change the font to be monospace everywhere
11:34 Calinou     in minetest.conf
11:34 asie        yay
11:34 Calinou     also, now I'm hosting rubenwardy's CTF server
11:35 Calinou     it has 20 constant players... and lag spikes :(
11:35 Calinou     Minetest server is not very efficient in CPU terms
11:35 asie        neither is Minecraft's
11:35 asie        but one of these can be easier to fix
11:35 asie        for everyone
11:35 Calinou     Minecraft can probably have like 30 players on my VPS
11:35 Calinou     (4 CPUs, 4 GB RAM, 64 GB SSD, 100 Mb/s, Ubuntu Server 14.04)
11:35 asie        huh
11:36 asie        so what's the problem?
11:36 asie        is anyone doing any benchmarking?
11:36 Calinou     CPU is saturated, one of the cores is at 80-100%
11:36 asie        i'm going to have a lot of free time in a month
11:36 asie        i might be able to help - but i'm not a C++ fan
11:36 Calinou     I used to run dedicated_server_step = 0.05 but had to stop doing that
11:37 asie        did you do any profiling yet?
11:39 Calinou     not specifically
11:39 asie        you should
11:39 Calinou     it's running the CTF subgame, with dummy backend
11:39 Calinou     so IO should not be a problem
11:39 asie        it's eating the CPU
11:40 asie        minecraft modders have devised a large suite of tools to debug performance. minetest should look into doing similar
11:40 Calinou     the profiler is only on the client currently, I think
11:41 asie        i might make my own game again
11:41 asie        i have some ideas for a technological one
11:41 asie        but unlike the typical minecraft technic
11:42 asie        but i'd like to ensure i don't run into massive performance issues
11:43 asie        i'd been joking around about porting buildcraft to minetest sometimes
11:43 asie        but nowadays it actually sounds feasible. almost all textures are open and huge chunks of algorithms are too
11:43 asie        i definitely want to port over CharsetPipes, my pipe system concept
11:48 asie        also, any news on native libraries for Lua mods?
11:48 asie        some ideas of mine would require some performance boosting
11:48 asie        though i suppose LuaJIT is a thing
11:52 Calinou     I wanted to make an high-performance mobs mod
11:52 Calinou     but I don't see a lot of optimizations possible in PilzAdam's simple mobs
11:53 asie        LuaJIT 2.1 might help
11:53 asie        but it's still in beta
11:54 Fixer       Calinou, i think mod_profiler can be used on server
12:10 asie        also, what's the status on the grand schism?
12:10 Fixer       wat?
12:10 asie        minetest/freeminer
12:10 Fixer       ask proller, he is often here
12:10 Fixer       or look into github commit page
12:13 sfan5       >also, any news on native libraries for Lua mods?
12:13 sfan5       you could use them from the start but there's obviously the problem with compatibility
12:13 asie        of course
12:14 asie        but if your mod is free software that should not matter much
12:14 asie        just make it reproducible
12:14 sfan5       also the wonderful "security" features will prevent you from using native libs
12:14 sfan5       you need to put your mod into a special config settings
12:14 sfan5       iirc
12:16 sfan5       <Calinou> also, now I'm hosting rubenwardy's CTF server
12:16 sfan5       huh
12:17 sfan5       still on DO?
12:19 sfan5       !py __import__("json").loads(__import__("os").popen("curl -s http://ipinfo.io/$(dig +short minetest.rubenwardy.com)").read())
12:19 MinetestBot ValueError: Expecting value: line 1 column 1 (char 0) (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/json/decoder.py", line 361, in raw_decode)
12:19 sfan5       damnit
12:19 Calinou     sfan5, nope
12:20 sfan5       >network.paris
12:20 sfan5       now that's a wonderful domain
12:21 Calinou     .paris used to be pretty expensive
12:21 est31       is it still
12:21 Calinou     I think it still is
12:21 est31       I think all these new TLDs are
12:27 Fixer       http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/get-tomorrows-date.jpg
12:28 est31       lol
12:28 asie        Fixer: this code will not work if you run it at exactly midnight on a day with a leap second
12:29 est31       yeah asie is right
12:29 fireglow    Is this lagging for anybody else? https://www.twitch.tv/fireglow
12:29 est31       twitch isn't 100% realtime afaik
12:29 est31       there can be lag of up to 1-3 minutes i think
12:30 sfan5       looks fluent to me
12:30 sfan5       if that's what you meant
12:30 asie        est31: i recommend beam.pro myself, i use it
12:30 fireglow    yes sfan5 that's what I meant =)
12:30 asie        lag is ~2-3 seconds, if you're a partner they give you access to a beta feature which goes down to 0.25-0.5 seconds... usually
12:30 asie        (they'll release it publicly later)
12:31 est31       lol doesnt work
12:31 est31       "try installing flash or getting a supported browser"
12:31 est31       "like firefox, chrome etc"
12:32 est31       and guess  what I have, firefox
12:32 PilzAdam    twitch doesn't work without flash
12:33 PilzAdam    it only works with hls on macs, AFAIK
12:34 est31       seems to work now
12:34 est31       weird
12:34 est31       PilzAdam, beam.pro works without flash as well
12:35 sfan5       or you just use a command line player
12:35 sfan5       like mpv
12:35 est31       livestreamer ftw
12:36 fireglow    livestreamer works GREAT with twitch
12:36 PilzAdam    "It looks like your browser doesn't support our HTML5 player and Flash isn't installed. Consider enabling Flash or trying a supported browser (Chrome, Edge, Safari, Opera, IE11, or Firefox) "
12:36 PilzAdam    from beam.pro
12:37 sfan5       est31: why would you use an inferior solution that pipes data into your video player if you could use native support in mpv?
12:38 PilzAdam    twitch.tv isn't even showing an error message for me
12:39 est31       PilzAdam, refresh
12:39 est31       it didnt work the first time for me either
12:39 est31       then i refreshed
12:39 est31       now it works
12:41 est31       im watching a minecraft lets play right now
12:41 est31       very interesting in which ways the game differs from minetest
12:42 PilzAdam    doesn't work for me
12:42 est31       which browser do you use
12:44 PilzAdam    firefox
12:45 est31       version?
12:45 PilzAdam    45.0
12:46 PilzAdam    beam.pro shows me "The video took too long to load, falling back to Flash!" in the console
12:46 est31       hmm
12:46 Krock       est31, what's the biggest difference between Minetest and Minecraft you've noticed yet?
12:46 est31       what does https://www.youtube.com/html5 say
12:47 est31       there are some differences
12:47 est31       the chat is in the lower left corner
12:47 est31       if you dig a block there is a very weird animation
12:48 PilzAdam    est31, everything blue ticks on yt/html5
12:49 PilzAdam    ha! twitch https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=CHANNEL_ID&html5 works if I allow mixed active content
12:50 est31       interesting
12:50 est31       this guy works https://beam.pro/DubstepClown
12:50 est31       while this doesnt https://beam.pro/Tish
12:52 PilzAdam    the first one works for me toow
12:52 PilzAdam    -w
12:52 PilzAdam    although it has to buffer a lot
12:53 * Markow    likes the Google Chrome (development version) browser most ;)
12:55 est31       I confirm https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=fireglow&html5 works without lag
12:56 est31       nice lol "[h264 @ 0x7fc0ba7f0800] illegal short term buffer state detected"
12:56 PilzAdam    https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=moondye7&html5 shows me a "uncaught exception: Assertion failed" in console
12:56 est31       (printed to my stdout)
12:57 Preuk       hi
12:57 fireglow    est31: nice, thank you =)
12:57 Preuk       i'm currently looking at mapgen, according to dev wiki we can now modify woldgen without touching core?
12:58 est31       Preuk, yes there is a mapgen modding api for lua
12:58 Preuk       is there any recent (>= 0.4.13) mod that make intensive use of it?
12:59 est31       yes there are quite some lua mapgen mods
12:59 Preuk       most of those i found only use standard mapgen parameters to add ore, etc.
13:00 est31       I guess there are mods that still do singlenode mapgen
13:00 Preuk       i'm looking for one of those ...
13:00 Preuk       i have an idea, must check if it's doable
13:01 est31       this should be one https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11430
13:01 Preuk       wait, valleys is lua based ?
13:01 Preuk       https://github.com/Gael-de-Sailly/valleys_mapgen
13:01 est31       there is a lua and a c++ version
13:01 est31       i linked to the lua version
13:01 Preuk       thx
13:01 est31       the c++ is in core already
13:01 est31       this as well https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14348
13:02 Preuk       yes, had a look at the core version from nighly
13:02 est31       yeah loud walking is singlenode https://github.com/duane-r/loud_walking/blob/master/init.lua#L18
13:03 Preuk       nice, thank you
13:03 est31       np
13:34 germanuel24 Can the register_on_chat_message() function be used to prevent the message from being sent to the chat? Right now I#m looking at the ignore mod code but it's not clear to me how that works
13:35 PilzAdam    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1896
13:38 germanuel24 Thanks a lot
14:05 AndDT       sfan5: it's not native solution afaik. mpv uses youtube-dl --get-url
14:05 sfan5       better than piping stream data into the player
14:05 AndDT       Agreed
14:06 Calinou     Markow, I upgraded to Chromium 52 today
14:06 Calinou     http://chromium.woolyss.com
14:06 Calinou     use the Nik build, it's the most complete one, also you can get one without the sync/WebRTC
14:06 Calinou     both available in stable and dev versions
14:14 germanuel24 Does register_on_chat_message() handle Pms as well?
14:14 Calinou     PMs are commands, so the question is, does it handle commands.
14:14 Calinou     not sure
14:15 germanuel24 Cause i'm trying to implement a mute function...but of course the user should still be allowed to send Pms
14:15 Calinou     you can revoke their "shout" privilege
14:15 Calinou     if you want them to still be able to send PMs, edit the builtin Lua code or override it
14:16 germanuel24 shout is required for Pms too?
14:18 Calinou     yes, it requires "shout"
14:18 Calinou     just checked, builtin/game/chatcommands.lua
14:19 germanuel24 Okay i will try with chat commands...so you say if chat commands still work then Pms also work right?
14:22 Calinou     yes
14:27 germanuel24 Pms still work just tested...i did it via a file thats named after the player..and on each message the game checks whether the file exists
14:39 Markow      Calinou: Just got back from outside walking on my injured calf muscle (rehabiliation). How do you like Chromium? I prefer Chrome.
14:40 Markow      *rehabilitation
14:40 Markow      lol
14:40 Markow      Injured my calf muscle after I hopped on top of a small mound here in rural country
14:40 Calinou     Chromium is exactly the same, except that it doesn't phone home as much
14:42 Markow      Chrome also has Pepper Flash
14:43 Markow      I don't think Chromium has that
14:43 Calinou     it can do
14:46 sfan5       you can install the flash from chrome in chromium
14:50 Markow      I never tried this, but would regular Adobe 'flash' be compatible with Chrome / Chromium?
14:53 Markow      Pepper Flash is slightly different I believe, custom built by Chrome devs
14:55 sfan5       Markow: you can install the pepperflash from chrome in chromium
14:56 Markow      Understood ;)
14:57 Markow      Chrome / Chromium overall much more robust than FF, IMO
14:57 Fixer       use Chromium ._.
14:58 Markow      I used FF last over 1 year ago...no more.
14:58 Fixer       i still prefer FF over Chrome (Chrome is kinda crippled)
15:04 mib_83ftw8  I also prefer FF over Chrome :-)
15:07 Fixer       ugh
15:08 Markow      Bleh! ;)
15:08 Fixer       i've installed two updates already and that damn windows updates still eats 50% of cpu :/
15:08 Fixer       and shitton of memory
15:08 Markow      Fixer: Have you tried Linux yet?
15:08 Fixer       it is not my computer
15:08 Fixer       yes, i've tried
15:08 Markow      Ah
15:10 Fixer       i wonder if i go to take a s*** now and go back and see if it still eats 50% cpu
15:24 Fixer       hmm
15:24 Fixer       still eats cpu
15:24 Fixer       and mem
15:24 Fixer       oh well
15:25 Fixer       and i took a s*** much faster than that
15:31 Krock       Fixer, you may write "shit" uncensored here.
15:32 Fixer       ok, so, i've started "search updates", go take a shit, after that I littered around the house for 5-10 minutes and after I've approached computer problem persisted
15:32 AndDT       Guys, I had some protectors on Xanadu server. I connected a moment ago and found out that they are belong to another player
15:32 AndDT       How can that be?
15:32 Fixer       looks like really deep shit, i will try some .cmd scripts *cough*
15:33 Markow      lol
15:33 PilzAdam    Fixer, https://kubuntu.org/
15:33 Fixer       PilzAdam, nah, i've heared kubuntu sucks, xubuntu is better, or even mint
15:34 Fixer       not my computer
15:34 PilzAdam    ever heard of live systems?
15:34 PilzAdam    you can run whatever you like from an USB drive
15:34 PilzAdam    (and you should if it's not your computer you are using)
15:35 PilzAdam    you keep on coming here and complaining for days now, but the fix for your problem is so simple
15:36 Fixer       they need win7, not linux
15:37 Markow      Only Linux or FreeBSD
15:37 Markow      Unix is addictive ;)
15:37 * Fixer     wonders if freedos is released
15:43 AndDT       latest is 1.1 afaik
15:43 AndDT       But I still use 1.0 on my pentium-mmx 166
15:51 Fixer       1.2 was planned for release, but not yet
15:59 est31       <Markow> Unix is addictive ;)
15:59 est31       +1
16:01 * twoelk    is just updating a new xubuntu installation on yet another pretty borked windows laptop
16:04 twoelk      for example it complains about a stuck key in w7 while not so in xubuntu - beats me
16:53 twoelk      argh!! - Laptop rebooted while building Minetest :-(
16:54 Calinou     Clementine 1.3 was released
16:54 Calinou     here's a major highlight: http://i.imgur.com/DY45pKX.png
17:35 rubenwardy  Ban potentially waranteed: https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?author_id=18953&sr=posts
17:46 hmmmm       the way I understand it, a topic about a Server is for all discussion relating specifically to that server
17:47 hmmmm       is a complaint about its moderation not discussion relating to the server?
17:47 Calinou     people are supposed to use the server topic anyway
17:47 rubenwardy  it is. The problem I have is the excessive spam he's posting
17:47 hmmmm       i agree his posts could be higher quality, but it's definitely not a reason to ban that user
17:47 twoelk      he opened a new thread for complaining
17:48 rubenwardy  If he stops spamming so much, it's fine
17:48 Calinou     he's done quadruple posts
17:48 hmmmm       they seem to all be contained to "Re: Xanadu Server" ?
17:48 rubenwardy  and the Xandu server complaint forum
17:49 hmmmm       point out in the rules that it says doubleposting is not allowed, never mind quadruple posting
17:49 hmmmm       rubenwardy, I am not seeing it in that link.
17:49 Calinou     we don't have rules set in stone actually, since the migration to phpBB
17:49 hmmmm       so then tell him to stop double posting, and then make it a rule
17:49 Calinou     so some people are wandering around with animated avatars, for example :)
17:50 hmmmm       there are many better ways to deal with somebody like this rather than banning them
17:50 hmmmm       banning should be a last resort unless it's clear they aren't an actual person
17:50 Calinou     I agree, but sometimes cooldowns don't hurt
17:50 Calinou     so, temporary banning makes sense
17:50 Calinou     they could also get a warning but they seem to have really bad faith
17:50 hmmmm       that just creates resentment
17:51 hmmmm       just send a PM telling him what he's doing wrong, why he's doing it, and to please stop doing it.  how much effort does that take?
17:51 Calinou     I have a feeling that won't help much
17:52 hmmmm       if you're moderating the public minetest forum, please do it with respect to freedom of speech
17:52 hmmmm       if you're moderating your own forum, do whatever you want
17:52 Calinou     freedom of speech always has limits, in any country, and anywhere
17:52 PilzAdam    Calinou, is it possible to mute people? so they can still post but nobody can read their posts, and they wouldn't notice it?
17:53 Calinou     https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png :)
17:53 Calinou     PilzAdam, I don't think phpBB offers shadowbanning out of the box, also I think it's bad treatment
17:53 PilzAdam    it's the best way to deal with actual trolls
17:59 twoelk      actually he has calmed down a bit - he is not using all caps as much anymore
18:06 rubenwardy  I agree he should be PM'd first if his spam persists, that's why I said "potential" as it could turn into one
18:19 hmmmm       calinou, there seems to be a confusion between "free speech rights" and the concept of "free speech"
18:19 hmmmm       i support the concept of free speech, and so should everybody
18:19 hmmmm       which means they should be supporting free speech whenever it's possible for them to do so
18:20 hmmmm       just because free speech is afforded by your government under limited circumstances doesn't mean somebody's free speech stops there
18:21 hmmmm       that just means the onus is on private entities and individuals to see the concept gets carried out through the rest of society
18:21 hmmmm       pasting an xkcd comic doesn't strengthen your point either imho
18:21 cimbakahn   Does anyone know where i can find this house ----> http://zenway.ru/uploads/11_12/minetest_015.jpeg
18:21 cimbakahn   Like in a schematic or world.
18:23 VanessaE    cimbakahn: I believe that's on my creative server just east of the spawn
18:24 VanessaE    https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/tree/master/buildings/worldedit  one of the two "VanessaE_Home*" files here, I think
18:25 cimbakahn   I believe it is, but i would like to have that house in my singleplayer world.  Do you know where i can get it like in a schematic or world?
18:25 cimbakahn   Ok.
18:25 cimbakahn   Thank you Vanessa!  You're a darling!
18:26 VanessaE    no prob
18:27 twoelk      just was on VEC - boy them cheapie towers and bulldog enterprises are slowly creaping up to my realm :-D
18:27 cimbakahn   I would like to take this time to thank all of the modders out there, (every one of you) because without you i wouldn't be having all of this fun with minetest.
18:28 cimbakahn   Does anyone know where i can get the mod that has kittens in it?
18:32 twoelk      http://wiki.minetest.net/Mobs somewhat outdated list of mobs mods (note to self to spend more time updating the wiki)
18:32 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Boats: Increase maximum velocity to 5n/s 13f8e273d https://git.io/vwLNT (152016-04-16T19:27:47+01:00)
18:32 MinetestBot 02[git] 04tenplus1 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Flowers: Tweak flower and mushroom spreading 139ece86c https://git.io/vwLNk (152016-04-16T19:27:41+01:00)
18:32 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sofar -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Change how dirt turns to dirt_with_(something) 137d93272 https://git.io/vwLNI (152016-04-16T19:27:34+01:00)
18:38 AndDT       hm
18:39 AndDT       when i do % git clone --mirror git://github.com/minetest/minetest , size of cloned repo is over 80 mb
18:40 AndDT       but when I do %  git clone --mirror file:///.../minetest , size of minetest.git directory is ~40 mb
18:40 H-H-H       yes because its the whole source code repository copied to your pc
18:41 AndDT       It is, in both cases above
18:47 Markow      AndDT: Solution: Run, git clone --depth 1 git://github.com/minetest/minetest. "depth 1" includes only what is required to compile, and not the entire commit history.
18:47 Calinou     AndDT, Git repositories also contain history
18:47 Calinou     by default, that is
18:48 Markow      I do the same (--depth 1) when extracting the latest source code for the Linux kernel.
18:50 AndDT       I know
18:52 AndDT       I just wonder why .git directory from working tree has size 40mb, and mirror repo (only .git directory, without working tree), which contains all the same commit, has 2x bigger size
18:57 asie        researching the viability of a homebrew 3DS Minetest port... someone would have to go and finish Caelina
18:57 asie        hmm.
18:57 asie        how much memory does Minetest eat in a light situation?
18:59 asie        a bit much.
19:06 cimbakahn   VanessaE: I love your humor!  I just was looking at a mod and noticed your comment on it.
19:07 VanessaE    which comment?
19:08 cimbakahn   On this page ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2383
19:08 cimbakahn   Your first comment.
19:08 VanessaE    heh
19:09 cimbakahn   I also loved your comment on the page about controllers.  As in which controller do you use to play minetest.
19:10 cimbakahn   Your second comment on this page ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1755
19:11 cimbakahn   I love your humor.
19:11 VanessaE    heh
19:12 cimbakahn   Anyone know where the kitten mod is?
19:13 VanessaE    no idea
19:14 CWz         VanessaE, hey
19:15 VanessaE    hi
20:28 cimbakahn   Just thought i'd let you know this mod doesn't work at all ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10456    Running 0.4.13
20:30 Krock       c'mon, discuss it.
21:58 Calinou     https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4f1o7b/wow_clementine_13_is_out_after_almost_3_years/d2562ld
21:58 Calinou     -52 points!
22:12 twoelk      ok, tried to map a world saved to local while still online - mapper won, client crashed.
22:22 Fixer       LOL
22:23 GreenDimond I NEED A QUICK QUESTION ANSWERED!!!
22:24 GreenDimond SOMEONE!!!
22:24 GreenDimond ANYONE?
22:24 GreenDimond AAAHHHHHH
22:24 GreenDimond IS ANYONE THERE?!?!?!?!
22:25 Calinou     GreenDimond, yes
22:25 GreenDimond I NEED HELP!!!
22:25 Calinou     no need for caps or shouting
22:25 GreenDimond Does anyone know the IRC for shivajivas Skyblock?
22:25 Calinou     no, maybe they don't have one
22:25 Calinou     ask on their server :)
22:26 GreenDimond I know they do
22:26 GreenDimond I cant get on.
22:26 GreenDimond I dont know what it is
22:29 GreenDimond :(]
22:29 GreenDimond AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
22:32 GreenDimond ~hi
22:32 ShadowBot   Hello GreenDimond!
22:36 Fixer       !rainbow oh crap
22:36 MinetestBot 4oh7 c8ra3p
22:37 rom1504     !rainbow !rainbow
22:37 MinetestBot 4!r7ai8nb3ow
22:38 rom1504     GreenDimond: can you teach me to yell in irc ?
22:38 rom1504     seems like a usefull skill
22:38 GreenDimond Huh?
22:39 GreenDimond Why do you say that?
22:39 rom1504     because you're pretty good at yelling in irc !
22:39 rom1504     so you can probably teach it
22:39 rom1504     so other people can get great results from this technique
22:40 GreenDimond Im so confused.
22:40 GreenDimond Do you know shivajiva's skyblock irc?
22:42 rom1504     GreenDimond: what make you say they have one ?
22:43 GreenDimond Because ive been there and they have one
22:43 GreenDimond (the server)
22:43 rom1504     ok
22:43 rom1504     so go there again and get the irc server address ?
22:46 GreenDimond i cant get on the server
22:46 GreenDimond idk y
22:46 GreenDimond thats y i need the irc
23:03 rubenwardy  GreenDimond, connect to inchra.net, it's probably there
23:04 GreenDimond ty i found it
23:31 cimbakahn   Hello!
23:31 yang2003    hi
23:33 cimbakahn   I am trying to create a nether portal.  So far it is not working.  I built it 4 across by 5 high with obsidian.  I shook a mese crystal fragment at it many times and nothing happened.
23:34 cimbakahn   I found the mod here ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5790
23:55 cimbakahn   Do i have it correct?  Is it 4 across by 5 high with obsidian?