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[git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Remove composed shelf side. 3ecafbc https://git.io/vwvut (2016-04-14T02:46:03+01:00) |
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[git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: Books: Split text per page relatively to number of lines 082b36d https://git.io/vwvuq (2016-04-14T02:45:57+01:00) |
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redblade |
hi |
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redblade |
someone on my server is trying to download the desktop version, but is unable to |
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redblade |
everything works fine on my end |
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redblade |
are there any problems i should tell her about? |
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redblade |
she is from china, i dont know if that matters for github |
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redblade |
it does: http://viewdns.info/chinesefirewall/?domain=github.com |
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OldCoder |
redblade Hello |
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redblade |
hi |
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OldCoder |
She is downloading from github? |
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redblade |
it's the download link from windows on the page |
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OldCoder |
I could host a copy and see if I am blocked or not |
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redblade |
she just left |
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OldCoder |
Ah |
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OldCoder |
Well, I'll update my own Windows EXEs soon |
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redblade |
she was using mobile and timing out a lot |
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OldCoder |
She can try to get them from me |
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OldCoder |
Yes |
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redblade |
so i suggested she go to the page |
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redblade |
why would china block github? |
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OldCoder |
China blocks a lot of sites |
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OldCoder |
GitHub may well be one |
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redblade |
but how is github politically offensive? |
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OldCoder |
It is not |
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OldCoder |
I have had people explain this to me... |
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OldCoder |
I forget some of the details... |
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OldCoder |
But GitHub may be collateral damage or it may host software that can tunnel through firewalls |
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OldCoder |
Or it may not be blocked at all |
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OldCoder |
Need more information on issue. Simplest solution is that she can try to download my EXEs. |
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OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/ is me |
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OldCoder |
The site is very out of date and incomplete |
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OldCoder |
But there are some EXEs perhaps 6 months old near the top |
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OldCoder |
Might work |
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OldCoder |
Plus I'll rebuild them in May |
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is that when 0.4.14 comes out? |
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sofar |
redblade: github hosts all sort of proxy and vpn software projects, the reason that github is block in china |
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redblade |
ok |
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redblade |
well thank you for telling me, next time she logs on i'll download and upload the installer somewere else |
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redblade |
i gotta go byet |
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[git] sofar -> minetest/minetest: Add option to disable entity selectionboxes. (#3992) 180e9a1 https://git.io/vwfIq (2016-04-14T11:15:41+02:00) |
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[git] TriBlade9 -> minetest/minetest: Add option to disable entity selectionboxes. (#3992) 6530ed4 https://git.io/vwftt (2016-04-14T11:20:11+02:00) |
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Calinou |
trying to make a 64-bit VS2015 build of Minetest |
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Calinou |
it is not possible to compile gettext using Visual Studio? |
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Calinou |
also what's the difference between CURL_LIBRARY and CURL_DLL in CMake? |
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hooray! compiled cURL in 64-bit with VS2015 |
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sfan5 |
Calinou: CURL_LIBRARY is some kind of .lib or whatever microsoft came up with and CURL_DLL is the .dll |
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yeah it's .lib, I found out |
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Calinou |
installing DirectX SDK for Irrlicht compilation... |
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Calinou |
it's a 572 MB download :| |
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Krock |
Congrats, Calinou! |
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Krock |
I found the DX libraries with their header files on github - not sure if they would work for 64-bit too |
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Krock |
that were less than 5 MB IIRC |
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Calinou |
okay, with the .lib files it shows more options now, including the need for SQLite3 |
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Calinou |
and LevelDB/Redis if I figure it out |
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Calinou |
and Lua/LuaJIT |
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Krock |
LuaJIT isn't a thing. There's a batch file that can be executed and it does everything for you |
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Calinou |
by the way, which version of Lua do I need for Minetest? can I use 5.3.2 or should I use 5.1 series? |
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Krock |
5.1 I'd say. So the mod creators can't use new features that aren't working on LuaJIT |
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Krock |
but that's just my opinion |
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Calinou |
I built LuaJIT successfully |
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Krock |
\o/ |
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Calinou |
do I need both Lua and LuaJIT or just LuaJIT, Krock? |
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Calinou |
I managed to build a Lua .exe, except that I want a .dll :p |
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Calinou |
found how to make a DLL |
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Krock |
Calinou, just LuaJIT |
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Calinou |
ok |
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Krock |
the exe file is a candy on top of it |
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Krock |
to run scripts directly from a console |
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Calinou |
Krock, do I point the Lua CMake stuff to LuaJIT then? |
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Krock |
yep |
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Fritz2 |
hello |
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Krock |
hi |
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Calinou |
Irrlicht compilation was a success! :) |
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Fritz2 |
good |
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Fritz2 |
when will the 0.4.14 of minetest be relased? |
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Krock |
God only knows |
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Fritz2 |
alright |
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bye |
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Calinou |
Krock, build is successful but linking fails with SQLite3 :( |
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Calinou |
LNK2001unresolved external symbol __imp__beginthreadex |
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Calinou |
something like that ^ |
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Calinou |
maybe because I compiled the amalgamated build? |
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sfan5 |
no that shouldn't cause problems |
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Calinou |
I got an .exe :) |
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Calinou |
the .exe runs fine |
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Calinou |
now it has Freetype |
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Markow |
Calinou: Congrats on the VB compilation! |
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Markow |
I mean VC |
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Preuk |
hello |
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betterthanyou710 |
hey |
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Preuk |
is there any nightly build for windows? |
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Preuk |
i can build latest on linux, but i don't have the stuff to compile it on my windows box |
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PilzAdam |
there are recent builds for windows in the forums |
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Preuk |
ok thanks |
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PilzAdam |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=42&sid=53294651ce11443f73e89ca14dd9c341 |
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PilzAdam |
they are not exactly "nightly", though |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, maybe add an RSS feed for your builds? |
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sfan5 |
too much work |
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PilzAdam |
why? do you manually update https://minetest.kitsunemimi.pw/builds/ ? |
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Krock |
it's kinda horrible that changing a single line in the source code allows a player to fly and noclip everyhere |
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Calinou |
Krock, server-side noclip enforcement will soon be added, probably not in 0.4.14 though |
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Calinou |
server-side movement is just not doable for a game like Minetest |
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Krock |
yeah. Anticheat-like stuff isn't easy to do. Lag is uncalculateable |
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Calinou |
it is possible to know a client's ping |
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Calinou |
but Minetest's network protocol is not really well designed for low latency... |
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Krock |
and a friend of mine stays with the version 0.4.10 or 11 because there was no timeout detection. His connection is so slow that the received data packs stacked into nowhere that took about 60s to get received completely. What a stange world |
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Krock |
*incoming data packets |
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sfan5 |
PilzAdam: i'd have to figure out how to make an rss feed |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, it's a simple XML |
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sfan5 |
i still need to figure it out |
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sfan5 |
even if its simple |
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Krock |
http://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-RSS-Feed |
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Krock |
but that site gives cancer |
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Krock |
using m$ notepad to program :< |
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Krock |
seems like my builds are too unpopular to get a RSS feed |
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sofar |
sfan5: just look at e.g. http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdotMain or some other feed |
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sofar |
sfan5: it's quite trivial to generate even with basic php or other scripting language |
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abuk |
how can i change view distance on windows version of minetest 0.4.13 ? |
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PilzAdam |
+ and - keys |
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abuk |
what about fog? |
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sofar |
F3 |
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Krock |
settings menu -> disable fog |
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abuk |
how can i decrease the view distance even lower than 5 distance seems still too far |
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Krock |
everything below 16 is BAD |
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Krock |
don't worry. You don't need glasses for a larger viewing range. It's on a 2D-screen |
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sofar |
why do you want to reduce it that much? |
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abuk |
for better performance |
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Krock |
F4 sohuld disable camera updates |
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Krock |
so try that one. Walk away and you'll soon have a viewing distance of 0 |
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Krock |
VBOs were added after the last stable, right? So using an in-dev build might give you an FPS boost too |
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Krock |
abuk, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=212880#p212880 |
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PilzAdam |
abuk, if you can't even handle a viewing range of 5 then this game might not be the best for you |
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PilzAdam |
Krock, VBOs generally only boost performance on higher-end GPUs |
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sofar |
abuk: out of curiosity, what kind of computer do you have? cpu/gpu? |
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Krock |
PilzAdam, then it it was just an imagination |
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Krock |
from my side |
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PilzAdam |
sofar, probably a toaster |
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Krock |
a fridge |
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sofar |
PilzAdam: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GYKQEGE/ref=sr_acs_va_item_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1460669831&sr=8-2-acs could probably run minetest on this |
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abuk |
thats how it looks like at 1 render view distance strange? |
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abuk |
http://postimg.org/image/5v45d55q7/ |
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sofar |
abuk: what kind of computer is it? |
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Krock |
lol. Must be a variant of android app then. It doesn't seem to have a mouse |
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sofar |
opengl-3.1.0, hmmm |
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Krock |
abuk, hit "R" to disable the full view distance |
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PilzAdam |
and hit F5 to show actual FPS |
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sofar |
abuk: is "the game too slow" or "you want just more FPS" ? |
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Krock |
perhaps too slow. Who in the world would want to play with a view range of 16? o.o |
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abuk |
if i hit R it increases the view distance actualy i dont realy want more fps just less cpu usage so that it doesnt go over 70 degres |
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ShadowNinja |
I've got MT for Android running in an emulator at ~50 FPS :-D |
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sofar |
abuk: do you answer questions? |
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sofar |
ohhh |
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sofar |
overheating |
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Krock |
ShadowNinja, no problem if you have the hardware for it.. |
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sofar |
abuk: reduce your max FPS |
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sofar |
abuk: go into settings -> advanced |
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sofar |
find the "max fps" setting |
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ShadowNinja |
Krock: This is on a laptop running an Ivy Bridge i5. |
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sofar |
and set it to 30, ... 20 ... 15 ... |
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PilzAdam |
sofar, advanced settings don't exist in 0.4.13 |
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Krock |
I solved the overheating in another way. Installed the clock utility tool to configure the core voltage and clock multiplier |
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abuk |
yep no advanced settings |
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sofar |
PilzAdam: minetest.conf sure had it, right? |
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PilzAdam |
70 degrees isn't really overheating, though |
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PilzAdam |
sofar, sure |
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abuk |
i prefer to not go over 70 |
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Krock |
ShadowNinja, those 50 FPS were measured in singleplayer in idle state, right? |
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sofar |
abuk: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/0.4.13/minetest.conf.example#L74 |
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ShadowNinja |
Krock: Multiplayer, mostly idle. |
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sofar |
fps_max = [number] |
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sofar |
start with 30, reduce it until you're happy |
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ShadowNinja |
Krock: I managed to do it by compiling the app for x86. The x86 emulators get hardware acceleration and can run at near-real-speed. |
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ShadowNinja |
First-time startup asset extraction was maybe 1s total. |
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Krock |
Ooh. Neat |
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ShadowNinja |
It should also be translated now, if I can slow it down enough to see the messages... |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Hey guys I have a mini itx NAS box running NAS4Free operating system. Is there a way to host the files on the NAS and just start the server manually for LAN play in the house? Right now I have SMB and FTP enabled for use if those will work or if I need some other service I can see if I have it available. I could start the server on my machine and point it to the NAS address and then other LAN machines would connect to my machine is th |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Its a low spec NAS box so running a virtualbox session and actual minetest server on it are too slow to be useable that way. |
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sofar |
you can run minetestserver with --world and point it to a specific path for the world files |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
sofar: WOuld it have to be a path on the local machine only or can you specify a server path like the ip address and all that? |
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sofar |
minetest doesn't speak smb |
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sofar |
it needs to be mounted |
