| Time |
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| 00:01 |
twoelk |
then I would have to know how to calculate the lengths inbetween - I am clueless for now - and I am not aware of an algorithm that can do trail and error ;-P |
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kaeza |
well, formspec coords suck</oldnews> |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
huge FPS frops near pine(?) trees :( |
| 00:34 |
kaeza |
dunno if it's the trees or the snow |
| 00:35 |
rubenwardy |
try using simple leaves, kaeza, and see if that hepls |
| 00:36 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy, I always play with min settings (except for 3D clouds and transparent liquids) |
| 00:37 |
rubenwardy |
oh, ok |
| 00:37 |
kaeza |
oh wait. didn't notice "simple leaves" |
| 00:38 |
kaeza |
uh, that's worse |
| 00:38 |
kaeza |
well, no big deal anyway |
| 00:39 |
kaeza |
can't expect to have 120 FPS with 1000 draw dist on an Intel integrated card |
| 00:45 |
kaadmy |
:} |
| 00:45 |
kaadmy |
i get around 30 node viewing range at around 10 fps with 8 items in the hotbar since the mesh items commit |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
kaadmy: is that better, or worse? |
| 00:47 |
kaadmy |
a lot worse |
| 00:47 |
kaadmy |
disable hud now, i get around 40 fps without changing any settings |
| 00:47 |
kaadmy |
enable hud, drops to about 50% or worse |
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VanessaE |
I thought that had been fixed already |
| 01:00 |
kaadmy |
^ i seem to be the only person with that problem |
| 01:01 |
kaadmy |
intel integrated+outdated(10+ years) laptop that hates any opengl |
| 01:03 |
VanessaE |
that sounds more like a driver issue |
| 01:03 |
VanessaE |
even 10 years old integrated graphics ought to handle something like mesh-based HUD/inventory well |
| 01:03 |
VanessaE |
(or just stop using a lappy for this. they ain't meant for such games :) ) |
| 01:04 |
kaadmy |
yeah ;( |
| 01:13 |
Fixer |
kaeza, never |
| 01:14 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, probably really old hardware, integrated was even worse s--- back then |
| 01:15 |
Fixer |
kaadmy, you better update that calculator |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
hehj |
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Fixer |
there is pr #3770 that can improve fps even more (very big boost for me), but noone is fixing bugs on it (except RBA who can't right now) |
| 01:16 |
Fixer |
with shaders on |
| 01:17 |
Fixer |
users with slow cards should notice a difference |
| 01:18 |
Fixer |
kaadmy, also, try vbo on |
| 01:18 |
Fixer |
kaadmy, update to newer build |
| 01:19 |
kaadmy |
i can't play with shaders, fog is broken + huge fps reduction yet again :'( |
| 01:19 |
Fixer |
kaadmy, F3 to disable fog |
| 01:20 |
XeonSquared |
What Intel Integrated? |
| 01:20 |
Fixer |
kaadmy, again, buy normal computer, don't waste your life on a slow piece of crap |
| 01:22 |
XeonSquared |
hey man |
| 01:22 |
XeonSquared |
slow boxen can run Minetest surprisingly well in my experience |
| 01:23 |
XeonSquared |
http://lain.shadowkat.science/~izaya/ideapad-s10e.txt this thing can get a fairly solid 30FPS |
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kaeza |
http://www.asrock.com/mb/intel/g41m-vs3%20r2.0/ |
| 01:36 |
kaeza |
make of that what you will |
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kaeza |
thing still runs way better than Minecrapht :) |
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Daven_ |
ay VanessaE |
| 02:22 |
Daven_ |
idk if u remember me xD |
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VanessaE |
I might have if he had stayed long enough for me to akswer. |
| 02:32 |
VanessaE |
answer* |
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sofar |
:63 |
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everamzah |
mouse hover focus, sofar? |
| 02:58 |
sofar |
absolutely |
| 02:58 |
everamzah |
:D |
| 03:15 |
everamzah |
cool, can't wait to see how you did it |
| 03:15 |
sofar |
the beds thing? |
| 03:15 |
everamzah |
yep |
| 03:16 |
sofar |
mostly the problem was the use of on_after_place() |
| 03:16 |
sofar |
I just rewrote the on_place() from scratch which replaces it |
| 03:16 |
everamzah |
i figured since there's meshnode doors, there could be meshnode beds. i think that'd be a good consistency |
| 03:16 |
everamzah |
aha! |
| 03:16 |
sofar |
this can still be converted entirely to mesh nodes later |
| 03:16 |
everamzah |
yes |
| 03:17 |
everamzah |
hope so |
| 03:17 |
sofar |
rotation should work already, btw |
| 03:17 |
sofar |
haha no, broken :) |
| 03:17 |
everamzah |
btw i personally feel protection check shouldn't happen on rightclick, but instead before beds.set_spawn() and only if enable_respawn were false |
| 03:18 |
sofar |
there's no such thing as beds.owner. do you suggest allowing people to use beds in others' areas? |
| 03:18 |
everamzah |
sure, why not |
| 03:18 |
everamzah |
if i make a hotel and protect it, i might still want ppl to lay down |
| 03:19 |
sofar |
mk, that's reasonable |
| 03:19 |
everamzah |
just maybe not set their respawn |
| 03:20 |
everamzah |
(and only if enable_respawn were true*, rather) |
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rubenwardy |
Err... You wot mate? https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/2nd3HwyK.png |
| 04:27 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest can't create it either... time to restart! |
| 04:27 |
VanessaE |
oops? heh |
| 04:28 |
everamzah |
accessing to it? |
| 04:28 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, just noticed |
| 04:28 |
rubenwardy |
never got that dialog before so haven't proof read much |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
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sofar |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3G-52FV4SI kaboom kaboom |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: 03-03 15:44 UTC <kaeza> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rgc7snykovkvtdg/fakesun.zip?dl=0 hacky, but WFM |
| 07:43 |
Megaf |
hm |
| 07:43 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: 03-07 17:25 UTC <Jordach> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| 07:43 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
| 07:46 |
Megaf |
!tell Jordach 😒 |
| 07:46 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around |
| 07:46 |
Megaf |
!tell kaeza ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 07:46 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: yeah, sure, whatever |
| 07:47 |
Megaf |
(╯°□°）╯︵ â”»â”â”» |
| 07:47 |
Megaf |
┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\ |
| 07:47 |
Megaf |
（　ﾟДﾟ） |
| 07:47 |
Megaf |
┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ) |
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MinetestBot |
est31: 10-04 23:23 UTC <comradmax> check the Norwegian translation commit, the a char with the dot is maybe breating minetestbot... |
| 07:48 |
MinetestBot |
TypeError: 'SomeObject' object is not callable (file "/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/tell.py", line 95, in checktell) |
| 07:48 |
Megaf |
!tell kaeza www.dropbox.com took too long to respond. |
| 07:48 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: yeah, yeah |
| 07:48 |
Megaf |
!tell kaeza www.dropbox.com took too long to respond. |
| 07:48 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: I'll pass that on when kaeza is around |
| 07:49 |
Megaf |
Hey est31 |
| 07:50 |
Megaf |
Hows things |
| 07:50 |
est31 |
hi |
| 07:50 |
MinetestBot |
est31: 11-07 15:24 UTC <Krock> That error message was probably caused by a MinGW pre-compiled library conflict with MSVC |
| 07:50 |
est31 |
going well |
| 07:53 |
Megaf |
cool |
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Megaf |
Morning LazyJ |
| 07:56 |
LazyJ |
Howdy, Megaf ;) |
| 07:56 |
Megaf |
Just let me quote myself, something I wrote in another channel |
| 07:56 |
Megaf |
<Megaf> Isnt it funny? Back in the day we already had the perfect OS, there were two perfect OSes actually, they were fast, responsive, good for multimedia and somewhat easy to use |
| 07:56 |
Megaf |
<Megaf> we had BeOS and RiscOS |
| 07:56 |
Megaf |
<Megaf> both running on better and more powerful or efficient architectures, PowerPC and ARM |
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Megaf was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com. |
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| 07:57 |
Megaf |
!tell ShadowBot Bad bot. |
| 07:57 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: I'll pass that on when ShadowBot is around |
| 07:57 |
Megaf |
!tell ShadowBot !server Megaf |
| 07:57 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: I'll pass that on when ShadowBot is around |
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CWz |
hmm |
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sfan5 |
Megaf: why !tell it 2 times |
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| 09:15 |
Megaf |
sfan5, Because I see people using !tell twice when bot says yeah yeah |
| 09:15 |
Megaf |
as if the bot wasnt in the mood are giving the message |
| 09:15 |
sfan5 |
*sigh* |
| 09:15 |
sfan5 |
as long as the bot doesn't respond with an obvious error message it succeeded |
| 09:16 |
sfan5 |
"yeah, yeah" is the same as "I'll pass that on when <nick> is around" |
| 09:18 |
Megaf |
if you say so |
| 09:18 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/tell.py#L73-L76 |
| 09:19 |
Krock |
xD |
| 09:19 |
Krock |
I love that "Yeah, sure" thing |
| 09:19 |
Megaf |
sfan5, by the way, did you see this? Me compiling Minetest with GCC 6.0, lots and lots of warnings. http://paste.debian.net/plain/416935 |
| 09:21 |
sfan5 |
no didnt see that |
| 09:21 |
sfan5 |
but basically it's just "bad" indentation and "in C++11 destructors default to noexcept" |
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Megaf |
<ACTION> 2016-03-19 09:44:45: [Server] WtfZiom [159.205.190.108] joins game. |
| 09:54 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2016-03-19 09:45:38: [Server] CHAT: <WtfZiom> megaf can i be a admin? |
| 09:55 |
Megaf |
I will never understand these people that join the server for the first time and soon after ask to be admin |
| 09:55 |
Thomas-S |
Megaf, I can tell you another, even more funny, case: |
| 09:56 |
Thomas-S |
I am admin on OldCoder Lord of the Test. Players have to ask for interact there. |
| 09:56 |
Thomas-S |
Once, a player joined and asked, if he could be admin. He didn't even have interact! :D |
| 09:56 |
twoelk |
well that might be exactly what they are looking for - a place where they can administer other players |
| 09:57 |
Thomas-S |
I told, that he needs interact first, then he used the very bad word starting with "F" |
| 09:58 |
Out`Of`Control |
why ask? just join as me_admin_plz !!! |
| 09:58 |
Thomas-S |
lol |
| 09:59 |
twoelk |
actually I know such a person quite well. He can only play if he can make the rules and tell everybody exactly how to play - I told him to become puppeteer or film director |
| 09:59 |
Out`Of`Control |
i love to troll them |
| 10:00 |
Out`Of`Control |
revoke shout or interact, they don't see it :D |
| 10:00 |
Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: how many admins are on your server? |
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Megaf |
Out`Of`Control, around 10 I think |
| 10:03 |
Out`Of`Control |
wow |
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Megaf |
sin, Gronx, LforLeeeeeeeX, Sofia, Jessch8285, Hamza568, Tahirah, Haiku, Megaf, pi, shadowzone, PosenedArrow, LazyJ, BudderWorrier |
| 10:06 |
Megaf |
Out`Of`Control, those |
| 10:06 |
Out`Of`Control |
ok |
| 10:06 |
Megaf |
s/Jessch8285/Jessch8281 |
| 10:06 |
Megaf |
Out`Of`Control, know any of them? |
| 10:07 |
Out`Of`Control |
Megaf: only 3 |
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sfan5 |
!py tell.tell.__globals__["checktell"](phenny, ext(filter(lambda e: setattr(e,"nick","Magaf") or True,[BaseException()]))) |
| 10:15 |
MinetestBot |
NameError: name 'ext' is not defined (file "/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py) |
| 10:15 |
sfan5 |
!py tell.tell.__globals__["checktell"](phenny,next(filter(lambda e: setattr(e,"nick","Magaf") or True,[BaseException()]))) |
| 10:15 |
MinetestBot |
Magaf: 01-28 23:38 UTC <greeter> Thanks for your help in tracking down the issues I was having :-) |
| 10:15 |
MinetestBot |
None |
| 10:15 |
sfan5 |
^ Megaf also for you |
| 10:19 |
Megaf |
Oh, thanks |
| 10:19 |
Megaf |
!tell greeter You're welcome :) |
| 10:19 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: I'll pass that on when greeter is around |
| 10:20 |
Megaf |
greeter, oh, Hi there |
| 10:21 |
Megaf |
dropbox.com is not opening here |
| 10:21 |
Megaf |
It is now |
| 10:22 |
sfan5 |
!servers players:most |
| 10:22 |
sfan5 |
!server players:most |
| 10:22 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: skyblock server | shivajiva101.nsupdate.info:30001 | Clients: 23/40, 17/36 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 43ms |
| 10:24 |
nrzkt |
!py sys.exit(0) |
| 10:24 |
nrzkt |
!py print "toto" |
| 10:24 |
nrzkt |
sfan5, are you the only allowed to do !py ? :) |
| 10:24 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 10:24 |
sfan5 |
also i'm using python 3 so you'd need brackets with print |
| 10:25 |
sfan5 |
any sys is probably not defined |
| 10:25 |
sfan5 |
!py sys |
| 10:25 |
MinetestBot |
NameError: name 'sys' is not defined (file "/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py) |
| 10:28 |
Megaf |
!tell kaeza that fakesun is very neat, thanks a million! |
| 10:28 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: I'll pass that on when kaeza is around |
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Foghrye4 |
It's my internet connection not working or it is everybody keep silence? |
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sfan5 |
silence |
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Foghrye4 |
You all guys are frickin' creeps. |
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Foghrye4 |
Except you, sfan5. |
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rubenwardy |
ShadowBot, hi! |
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Fixer |
VanessaE, cleared up cache and trying to connect to dreambuilder creative, progress at 50%, 400 sec passed already and I've stopped counting |
| 14:34 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, so first connect is 5-10 min |
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Fixer |
._. |
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VanessaE |
that's sadly rather normal |
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VanessaE |
though for me it usually takes only about a minute |
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MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: lua_api.txt: improve vector documentation d915ca1 https://git.io/vaPNq (2016-03-19T15:34:51+01:00) |
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Fixer |
still connecting |
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Fixer |
.____. |
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Fixer |
10+ mins |
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Fixer |
connect |
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VanessaE |
there you are |
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VanessaE |
maybe you just have a slow pipe |
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VanessaE |
VE-C has like 40 MB of media |
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Fixer |
VanessaE, nope, my pipe is 2mbit and it was not even utilized at all at connect |
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VanessaE |
idk then |
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rubenwardy |
remote_media, ofc, VanessaE? |
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VanessaE |
rubenwardy: yeah |
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Fixer |
VanessaE, it was downloading with like 12kbyte/s |
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VanessaE |
Fixer: does your build have cURL support? |
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rubenwardy |
maybe the server is being saturated with requests? |
| 14:41 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, yes |
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VanessaE |
I'll check it in a minute, Fixer. |
| 14:42 |
Fixer |
i can down 20mb in <2 min, yet it was over 10min |
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VanessaE |
start. |
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VanessaE |
media loading... |
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VanessaE |
wow wtf? that's FAR slower than it ought to be |
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VanessaE |
here comes a big chunk, briefly |
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VanessaE |
finished. |
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VanessaE |
initializing nodes now. |
| 14:45 |
VanessaE |
the peak transfer rate was about 7.3 Mbps |
| 14:46 |
VanessaE |
done. |
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VanessaE |
total time: 3 minutes. |
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Fixer |
VanessaE, cleared your cache? |
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VanessaE |
yep. |
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Fixer |
VanessaE, want to observe me connecting again? with cleared cache |
| 14:49 |
VanessaE |
if you want, but really it's all on your end. |
| 14:49 |
VanessaE |
has to be, if I can slurp down 39MB of media in 2 mins. |
| 14:49 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, one sec |
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VanessaE |
(just checked the usage, as VE-C is the only server that I've connected to since clearing the cache) |
| 14:50 |
Fixer |
start |
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Fixer |
media |
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Fixer |
DL: 10 kbyte / s |
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Fixer |
VanessaE, i see smth weird on debug |
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VanessaE |
I think your build doesn't really have cURL support then |
| 14:53 |
VanessaE |
a few 404 errors right? |
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Fixer |
VanessaE, few? lol |
| 14:53 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, it is like 5 errors per second |
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VanessaE |
there should be like four files that throw several 404's |
| 14:53 |
VanessaE |
wat? |
| 14:53 |
Fixer |
LOL |
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Fixer |
debug is over 1mb now |
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VanessaE |
are you sure you don't have a firewall blocking you? |
| 14:54 |
VanessaE |
some folks have reported that daconcepts.com triggers false firewall/antivirus warnings |
| 14:54 |
VanessaE |
(which would among other things block your access to the server over http) |
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Fixer |
VanessaE, hold on, i will check firewall |
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| 14:56 |
VanessaE |
check your antivirus also. just point your browser to daconcepts.com and see what it does. |
| 14:56 |
VanessaE |
if it throws malware warnings, disregard them and add my site to your whitelist. I know for a solid fact that my site is safe :P |
| 14:56 |
Fixer |
it is good |
| 14:57 |
rubenwardy |
Do you see the public server list? |
| 14:58 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, errors like this http://pastebin.com/raw/Gz4w971v |
| 14:58 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, ofc |
| 14:58 |
rubenwardy |
It doesn't work on non-curl |
| 14:58 |
rubenwardy |
Oh, so you do have curl |
| 14:58 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: that would be the issue then. |
| 14:58 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, megabytes of your errors :} |
| 14:58 |
VanessaE |
let me re-check again. |
| 14:58 |
rubenwardy |
That happened to me |
| 14:59 |
VanessaE |
vanessa rainbird:~$ rm -rf .cache/minetest/ |
| 14:59 |
VanessaE |
connect |
| 14:59 |
VanessaE |
whoa |
| 14:59 |
VanessaE |
shittons of them for me too |
| 14:59 |
VanessaE |
guest the regular media_fubar code is pretty fast |
| 14:59 |
VanessaE |
shit |
| 15:00 |
rubenwardy |
find . -name '*.png' -exec mv {} /path/to/remote/media/path/ \; |
| 15:00 |
rubenwardy |
VanessaE, run on server where . is games/yourgame/ |
| 15:00 |
rubenwardy |
also need to do on *.b3d and *.ogg |
| 15:00 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: I'm using sfan5's script for media management |
| 15:00 |
rubenwardy |
fixed errors for me |
| 15:00 |
VanessaE |
index.mth etc. |
| 15:00 |
rubenwardy |
I do too |
| 15:00 |
rubenwardy |
but then I got those errors |
| 15:01 |
VanessaE |
this makes no sense. |
| 15:01 |
rubenwardy |
maybe the client code has been screwed up |
| 15:01 |
Calinou |
.b3d, .x, .obj, .md2 are the 4 mesh formats supported by Minetest by the way |
| 15:01 |
Calinou |
you probably should include them all, the first 3 are all common in mods |
| 15:01 |
rubenwardy |
Well, after doing only png b3d ogg worked for me |
| 15:01 |
rubenwardy |
as capturetheflag has no models apart from the player |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
how the hell am I supposed to debug this? |
| 15:02 |
rubenwardy |
try reverting the client, I guess |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
index.mth is binary, and the debug log doesn't give me filename hashes |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
2016-03-19 11:06:47: ERROR[CurlFetch]: http://minetest.daconcepts.com/server-media/moreblocks_slope_outer_cut_half_raised.obj not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404) |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
<--- which file in my media cache is that supposed to be? |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
THIS is why I don't like the index.mth method |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
to be honest the remote_media implementation of Minetest kind of sucks |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
yes, it does. |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
most Quake-based games do it infinitely better: you don't have to rename files at all |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
and cache does not rename media names either |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
how long has my server been broken like this? >:-( |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
it's the whole fucking media tree. wtf? |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
ok I don't understand. |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
at least one of the files in the remote_media dir matches the same hash in minetest's downloaded cache |
| 15:13 |
VanessaE |
and OF COURSE browsers and image viewers don't know what to do with those files because they lack file extensions |
| 15:16 |
est |
Calinou, i consider it a feature |
| 15:16 |
est |
it should just be automated some way |
| 15:16 |
est |
it will just lead to weird bugs |
| 15:18 |
VanessaE |
vanessarainbird:~/.cache/minetest/media$ f="ffc2fcd5d1b73e18aa5aa9f5b8903180f652b6ce" |
| 15:18 |
VanessaE |
vanessarainbird:~/.cache/minetest/media$ echo -ne $f | xxd -r -p ����ѷ>�Z����1��R��vanessarainbird:~/.cache/minetest/media$ |
| 15:18 |
VanessaE |
wtf? |
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| 15:19 |
VanessaE |
where the hell did I get this from? |
| 15:19 |
VanessaE |
that's the line that (in part) echoes filenames to the index.mth |
| 15:19 |
VanessaE |
looks like the same data as is given by cat "$f" | openssl dgst -binary -sha1 (sfan5's script) |
| 15:20 |
Fixer |
i'm back |
| 15:20 |
Fixer |
was afk sry |
| 15:22 |
Fixer |
16:49 - 17:03 |
| 15:22 |
Fixer |
okay |
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| 15:23 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, so what now? |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
I don't know. |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
I'm trying to sort it out. read the channel backscroll. |
| 15:26 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, well since I've rarely seen them will players, probably a lot fo time %) |
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| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: looks like a BUNCH of files are just not being picked up by my remote_media script. |
| 15:37 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, huge bunch %) |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE |
I'm trying to fix it. |
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afflatus |
Weird issue #00meh - some of my 32px wool textures have been replaced by 16px minetest_game textures - I do not have a clue why. I've cleared texture cache and they're still there. I'm not expecting anyone else to have a clue either. |
| 15:45 |
afflatus |
Anyway that's today's wtaf moment |
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| 15:46 |
afflatus |
And I've just found the cause ... mobs:snowman grr |
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| 16:02 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, success? |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
no. |
| 16:04 |
VanessaE |
not yet anyways. |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
CWz: you need to fix the permissions on your tt_survival worldmods dirs. a few of them are not readable by user 'minetest'. |
| 16:06 |
VanessaE |
(diplazer, 3dforniture, and ownerhack specifically) |
| 16:06 |
CWz |
wats wrong? |
| 16:06 |
VanessaE |
looks like 0700 perms on all three |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
should be at least 0755 unless you have private stuff in there. |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
but wait, don't change them yet. |
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| 16:13 |
CWz |
VanessaE, hmmm |
| 16:13 |
* Fixer |
strikes everyone with very large bug |
| 16:14 |
* CWz |
uses Mirror Coat |
| 16:14 |
* Fixer |
activates snail perk |
| 16:14 |
* nm0i |
mews |
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| 16:16 |
* Void7 |
activates Super Tree Powers |
| 16:16 |
* kaadmy |
revs his chainsaw |
| 16:16 |
* Fixer |
crashes everything |
| 16:17 |
* kaadmy |
breaks Fixer |
| 16:17 |
* Void7 |
runs 'rm -rf /' |
| 16:17 |
* Void7 |
disconnects |
| 16:18 |
Fixer |
Void7, motherboard damaged by rm -rf / |
| 16:18 |
* Fixer |
summons Lennart |
| 16:18 |
nm0i |
Oh no. systemd-minetest |
| 16:19 |
Fixer |
minetest panics |
| 16:19 |
Fixer |
player dumped |
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| 16:30 |
Yst |
Systemd with Minetest? That sounds nice. The Minetest server could be started whenever the server boots. |
| 16:31 |
SmugLeaf |
writing a systemd unit or rc init script isn't hard |
| 16:33 |
SmugLeaf |
http://dpaste.com/267XK1P |
| 16:33 |
SmugLeaf |
I was even lazier with my irc setup |
| 16:33 |
SmugLeaf |
just /etc/rc.local |
| 16:35 |
Fixer |
yep (poker face) |
| 16:35 |
stdh |
https://sources.debian.net/src/minetest/0.4.13%2Brepack-2/debian/minetest-server.service/ |
| 16:35 |
CWz |
VanessaE, can i change them now? |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
not yet. |
| 16:35 |
CWz |
VanessaE, what happening? |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
I think those bad permissions were corrupting my index.mth (by way of find() throwing error messages into it) |
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| 16:36 |
VanessaE |
so I'm testing that now |
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| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
nope, that wasn't it. |
| 16:37 |
* VanessaE |
sighs |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
even mundane shit like default_apple.png is being missed. |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
how the hell am I supposed to debug this if I can't see the fucking filenames? |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
what moron decided that index.mth should be binary? |
| 16:39 |
rubenwardy |
what happens if you use a hex editor? |
| 16:39 |
rubenwardy |
you might be able to see some ascii codes |
| 16:39 |
VanessaE |
oh sure I can see the data in the file, but that's useless if I can't interpret what I'm seeing. |
| 16:39 |
VanessaE |
it may as well all be nothing but random numbers. |
| 16:41 |
Fixer |
debug all the things |
| 16:42 |
CWz |
index.mth is kaput |
| 16:42 |
SmugLeaf |
why are your shell scripts piping error messages |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
SmugLeaf: they weren't. |
| 16:43 |
SmugLeaf |
so how did $(find) do bad things |
| 16:43 |
CWz |
I hope RealBadAngel is doing okay |
| 16:43 |
VanessaE |
he's not. |
| 16:43 |
VanessaE |
SmugLeaf: nevermind. |
| 16:45 |
SmugLeaf |
okay |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
that part was a brain-o. I'm still looking for the problem. |
| 16:46 |
rubenwardy |
App is almost done: http://pasteboard.co/2nZsORAN.png |
| 16:46 |
est |
O-o |
| 16:47 |
CWz |
don't private repos cost cash |
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rubenwardy |
I'm a university student, and get 5 free |
| 16:48 |
rubenwardy |
https://education.github.com/pack |
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| 16:55 |
DoyleChris |
need help with linux server |
| 16:56 |
DoyleChris |
i compiled it on my RPi server and have the directory in /home/pi/minetest but i dont have a server file to run. |
| 17:00 |
DoyleChris |
anybody have a answer |
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| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
RPi isn't really good enough to run a decent MT server. |
| 17:03 |
VanessaE |
in any case, poke MegaF when he shows up next, I think he has experience with that. |
| 17:05 |
DoyleChris |
well the new RPi 2 is a quad-core 1ghz |
| 17:06 |
DoyleChris |
so i thought i would try but cant figure out how to get the latest 4.13 version and how to get the mods installed |
| 17:15 |
Fixer |
why didn't I buy it before devaluation :/ |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: ah HAH, I've fixed the problem. |
| 17:16 |
VanessaE |
it wasn't in my scripts. |
| 17:16 |
VanessaE |
it was my nginx config, because minetest now uses POST to fetch index.mth (and my nginx was refusing it) |
| 17:16 |
Fixer |
oh |
| 17:16 |
Fixer |
so i can try now? |
| 17:16 |
VanessaE |
wait. |
| 17:16 |
VanessaE |
gonna benchmark it first. |
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| 17:17 |
DoyleChris |
anybody have knowledge on a linux minetest server |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
MUCH MUCH better. |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
media fetched in like 20 seconds |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
you can try now. |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
DoyleChris: you mean on a RPi server. |
| 17:17 |
DoyleChris |
not just that any linux |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
RPI != linux, not precisely anyway. |
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| 17:18 |
DoyleChris |
its the same setup |
| 17:18 |
VanessaE |
I don't have any tips for you except to make sure you actually built the server binary |
| 17:18 |
DoyleChris |
i can run the server by typing minetestserver in terminal but trying to add mods |
| 17:19 |
Fixer |
st |
| 17:19 |
VanessaE |
put your mods in your worldmods dir. |
| 17:19 |
DoyleChris |
i compiled from here http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Compiling_on_GNU.2FLinux |
| 17:19 |
VanessaE |
e.g. /home/{your_minetest_username}/.minetest/worlds/{your_world}/worldmods |
| 17:20 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, nope, still lots of errors |
| 17:20 |
DoyleChris |
then i went and did sudo apt-get minetest-server |
| 17:20 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, creative dreambuilder |
| 17:20 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: just a bunch of "dummy" errors right? |
| 17:20 |
DoyleChris |
then i can run minetestserver it starts i can connect but not sure which directory to put it in |
| 17:21 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, http://pastebin.com/raw/1gasA4ry |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: this is all I get for "errors" now, http://pastebin.com/fuqjv5cw |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: update your minetest build then |
| 17:21 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, it is 095f623 ._. with some PRs included |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
lemme keep checking. |
| 17:22 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, mar 15 build |
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| 17:22 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, 15 march 2016* build |
| 17:23 |
DoyleChris |
i dont have a worldmods folder |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
DoyleChris: then create it. |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: response code 0 means you couldn't connect at all. |
| 17:23 |
twoelk |
VanessaE: seen this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4057&p=204606#p204606 |
| 17:23 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, but i can download them via browser .___. |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
I can't do anything about those errors. it works for me. |
| 17:23 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, erase your cache and try again |
| 17:24 |
* VanessaE |
growls |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: saw it. ask bas080 to fix it. |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: http://pastebin.com/Lijs7ZXW |
| 17:25 |
twoelk |
havn't noticed him beeing around lately |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: I just slurped down the entire 39 MB of media in like 20 seconds, that paste is just now. |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
the problem is on your end now. |
| 17:29 |
DoyleChris |
can anybody that runs linux tell me where the server files are installed if i use sudo apt-get install minetest-server |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
DoyleChris: don't use that |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
it'll be outdated. |
| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
(the files will likely be in /usr/bin and /usr/share ) |
| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
CWz: you can correct those permissions now if you want |
| 17:32 |
DoyleChris |
so do i need to compile like i did from this link for new version |
| 17:32 |
DoyleChris |
http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Compiling_on_GNU.2FLinux |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
yeah more or less. |
| 17:32 |
DoyleChris |
i did but it didnt give me a minetestserver file |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
well it's not show there, but you probably need -DBUILD_SERVER=1 in your cmake flags |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
shown* |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
in any case it's impossible to help you without build logs etc |
| 17:35 |
CWz |
VanessaE, i think i manged to do it |
| 17:35 |
CWz |
*managed |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
| 17:36 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, connected in 7 minutes |
| 17:37 |
DoyleChris |
ill try it again |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: I still say it's your firewall or anti-malware tools getting in the way |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
you're getting outright connection errors now |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
I can't fix that. |
| 17:38 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, guy |
| 17:38 |
Fixer |
guh* |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
look at your log again. |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
2016-03-19 19:19:08: ERROR[CurlFetch]: http://minetest.daconcepts.com/server-media/index.mth not found (Couldn't connect to server) (response code 0) |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
there's no way I can even try to fix that. |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
code 0 is not a valid http response |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
and "couldn't connect" tells me you're being blocked somewhere. |
| 17:39 |
Krock |
0 means no response |
| 17:39 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, i can download it via browser without problem |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: /msg me your IP please |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
just need to check if my firewall has you blocked. |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
(there are only three entries, one of which is a /24) |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
hm, nope. |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
didn't think so. |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
Krock: not according to RFC7231 ? |
| 17:42 |
DoyleChris |
so add -dbuild_server=1 to the cmake command |
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| 17:43 |
Krock |
VanessaE, no, it's just a default status value that must be overwritten with a later function. this didn't happen because it was unable to connect - so it's still at 0 |
| 17:45 |
VanessaE |
oh ok. |
| 17:45 |
VanessaE |
so wtf is causing Fixer's issue? |
| 17:45 |
VanessaE |
DoyleChris: no. all caps as I wrote it. |
| 17:45 |
VanessaE |
-DBUILD_SERVER=1 |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
but that shouldn't actually be needed at all |
| 17:47 |
DoyleChris |
so i add it to this line cmake . -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 -DENABLE_REDIS=1 |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
yeah. |
| 17:48 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: check your firewall and anti-malware stuff again. and check your cURL implementation, maybe the one you're using is buggy. something's blocking you somewhere. |
| 17:50 |
est |
Fixer, do you use a proxy? |
| 17:50 |
Fixer |
no |
| 17:50 |
Fixer |
est, maybe firewall is rerouting through smth |
| 17:50 |
Fixer |
avast crap |
| 17:51 |
Fixer |
i've disabled it |
| 17:51 |
est |
its avast? |
| 17:51 |
est |
interesting |
| 17:51 |
DoyleChris |
now im getting source directory dosent exist |
| 17:51 |
Fixer |
still errors, firewall is ok |
| 17:51 |
DoyleChris |
when i go to run that command |
| 17:51 |
Fixer |
i will try sfans build |
| 17:51 |
est |
yeah, minecraft wouldn't have had an error, because its the bigger program |
| 17:51 |
DoyleChris |
CMake error |
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Fixer |
est, also CGNAT |
| 17:52 |
VanessaE |
wtf is CGNAT |
| 17:52 |
Fixer |
carrier grade nat |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
maybe that's the problem then idk |
| 17:53 |
Fixer |
morons, they silently snicked that in, now i can't host anything |
| 17:53 |
est |
CGNAT should not be an issue here |
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| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
if you can reach the files from the browser, and I can fetch the whole media cache via Minetest client in like 20 seconds, with no http errors, it's something in how your MT client interacts with your network stuff. |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
that's all I got. |
| 17:55 |
DoyleChris |
any ideas on the cmake error |
| 17:56 |
VanessaE |
DoyleChris: I told you we can't help you without build logs. |
| 17:56 |
VanessaE |
just saying there was an error is like saying your car "won't go". |
| 17:57 |
DoyleChris |
i deleted the old directory and trying to compile again |
| 17:57 |
DoyleChris |
thats where im getting the error |
| 17:57 |
SmugLeaf |
that still means nothing |
| 17:58 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, tried sfans build, error 0, error 404 :S |
| 17:58 |
Fixer |
f-ing |
| 17:58 |
DoyleChris |
i am going to reinstall linux and start off scratch |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: then the problem is somewhere else. it's not on my server, I'm sure of it. |
| 17:59 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, i will reset my ADSL crap, hang on |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
est: can you do a quick clear-the-cache-and-let-it-redownload? |
| 18:00 |
VanessaE |
and in particular see if you get any similar errors |
| 18:01 |
MinetestBot |
[git] Rui914 -> minetest/minetest: Set acceleration only once in falling node 65c09a9 https://git.io/vaXLG (2016-03-19T17:56:46Z) |
| 18:01 |
MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgv7: Limit pseudorandom caves to surface mapchunk or below f1aea6b https://git.io/vaXLZ (2016-03-19T17:56:35Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sofar -> minetest/minetest: Allow NodeTimer, ABM and block mgmt interval changes. c5c727d https://git.io/vaXLn (2016-03-19T17:56:26Z) |
| 18:01 |
est |
VanessaE, where is that cache? |
| 18:01 |
VanessaE |
est: on my machine, it is stored in ~/.cache/minetest |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
(used to be ~/.minetest/cache guess it got moved to comply with linux FHS?) |
| 18:02 |
est |
yes |
| 18:02 |
SmugLeaf |
VanessaE: halp |
| 18:02 |
est |
SN moved it |
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| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
what's wrong, SmugLeaf |
| 18:03 |
SmugLeaf |
what's the password for Weedy |
| 18:03 |
SmugLeaf |
or SmugLeaf |
| 18:03 |
VanessaE |
no way for me to tell you that, SmugLeaf. |
| 18:03 |
VanessaE |
passwords are stored encrypted. |
| 18:03 |
SmugLeaf |
I don't even remember what I signed up with |
| 18:03 |
SmugLeaf |
can you tell me if a Weedy or SmugLeaf exists |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
which server/ |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 18:04 |
SmugLeaf |
daconcepts? |
| 18:04 |
SmugLeaf |
30000? |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
I meant w...yeah |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
Weedy exists there. |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
(capital W) |
| 18:04 |
SmugLeaf |
the hell password did I use |
| 18:04 |
Fixer |
Weedy Builds inc |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
impossible for me to know, but I can reset it if you want. |
| 18:05 |
SmugLeaf |
yeah, do that |
| 18:06 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, sometimes error 0 |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
daconcepts => ad-z7441-8.dp.ukrtel.net 1.71Mb 1.80Mb 1.01Mb |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
seems like you're pulling a decent rate now |
| 18:07 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, yes |
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| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
so it's your network config. something's just generally interfering. |
| 18:07 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, rate increased after you fixed nginx |
| 18:07 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, no rate was better after fix, but there were still error 0 and sometimes 404 |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
yes, because you're getting most of the files over remote_media, but if you're getting any errors, it's not on my end. |
| 18:08 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, and node processing, damn it is slow |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
yeah, that's normal |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
that's slow for me, too |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
the important part is the media. |
| 18:08 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, so first connect is like 7 min now, instead of 10+ |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
clear your cache and try it again. |
| 18:09 |
est |
VanessaE, whats the port again |
| 18:09 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, why? :S |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
you should be able to pull it down in less than 3 minutes at your speed. |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
est: 30000. |
| 18:09 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, i'm processing nodesw |
| 18:09 |
SmugLeaf |
I also got a fast download |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: I mean the media receiving step, specifically. |
| 18:09 |
SmugLeaf |
and VanessaE, WHY DOESN"T MINETEST SUPPORT COPY AND PASTE |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
SmugLeaf: because irrlicht |
| 18:10 |
est |
SmugLeaf, its a problem of irrlicht |
| 18:10 |
est |
and linux |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
even current dev builds don't quite work right for that. |
| 18:10 |
est |
it works on windows |
| 18:10 |
SmugLeaf |
I typoed that reset password 3 times |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
(though at least the console works as well regarding copy/paste/highlight as the old command dialog box did) |
| 18:12 |
est |
lol |
| 18:12 |
est |
got a segfault in the process |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 18:12 |
exio4 |
hai |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
you got enough RAM? |
| 18:13 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, errors 404 :( |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
wow, someone's hitting the server with ipv6 |
| 18:13 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, many errors again |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
and it works (!) |
| 18:13 |
est |
VanessaE, probably nt |
| 18:13 |
est |
not* |
| 18:13 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, dl speed is 8 kb/s |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: I can't help you with that. |
| 18:13 |
Fixer |
code 0, code 404 |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
I blame that CGNAT shit |
| 18:14 |
Fixer |
many of that |
| 18:14 |
Fixer |
fuck them |
| 18:14 |
est |
worksforme |
| 18:15 |
VanessaE |
works for me too :P |
| 18:15 |
Fixer |
there is better new optical internet not far from me, it costs a little more, but i will probably move to it, more speed and probably hope no cgnat shit |
| 18:15 |
VanessaE |
exio4: can you try? |
| 18:16 |
Fixer |
redisabled avast again |
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| 18:17 |
Fixer |
crap, same errors, fuck it |
| 18:17 |
Fixer |
tired of it |
| 18:17 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: re-install your OS, and then complain to your ISP :P |
| 18:17 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, why reinstall os? |
| 18:18 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: maybe a broken OS. but I was being sarcastic :P |
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| 18:20 |
afflatus |
DoyleChris: I might be able to help you |
| 18:21 |
afflatus |
if you're still there that is ... |
| 18:21 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, with cgnat i'm basically unable to host anything :( and most ports are not working |
| 18:23 |
Fixer |
I"M MAD |
| 18:23 |
Fixer |
time to eat :p |
| 18:23 |
est |
dam sorry forgot to stop the time |
| 18:23 |
est |
but i measured speeeds over 500 kib / s |
| 18:24 |
Fixer |
est, no errors 0/404 in console? |
| 18:24 |
* CWz |
thinks about making a mod that tell noobs who type gamemode 1 in chat "You're Winner" |
| 18:25 |
CWz |
nah they won't get the reference |
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| 18:28 |
VanessaE |
est: sounds okay; how fast should it go for you normally? |
| 18:29 |
est |
no idea |
| 18:29 |
VanessaE |
well what's your pipe? :) |
| 18:29 |
est |
1600 |
| 18:30 |
VanessaE |
sounds about right then I guess. |
| 18:30 |
VanessaE |
mine is a 70 Mbps pipe, I can pull about a third of that with MT. |
| 18:31 |
VanessaE |
(I assume the rest is just normal small-file lag) |
| 18:31 |
est |
yeah |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Builtin/game/falling: Re-add comma removed by recent commit 2ce02c9 https://git.io/vaXmA (2016-03-19T18:46:08Z) |
| 18:53 |
exio4 |
try what VanessaE |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
exio4: try a bandwidth test on ve-creative. clear your cache ( ~/.cache/minetest or ~/.minetest/cache ) and launch minetest from a terminal. connect to ve-c, time how long it takes to receive the media, and watch for http errors. |
| 18:54 |
VanessaE |
(just the "MEdia" part - don't bother timing the "initializing nodes" part) |
| 18:55 |
exio4 |
er, I don't have a new Android build |
| 18:55 |
VanessaE |
you're only on android?? |
| 18:55 |
exio4 |
my desktop isn't online |
| 18:55 |
VanessaE |
oh. |
| 18:57 |
exio4 |
I know :( |
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| 18:58 |
Guest03348 |
hi |
| 18:58 |
exio4 |
is a ebook reader worth it? |
| 18:58 |
exio4 |
an* |
| 18:58 |
sfan5 |
do you read a lot of books? |
| 18:59 |
exio4 |
I don't, because space and price |
| 18:59 |
sfan5 |
then it's not worth it |
| 19:00 |
exio4 |
why not? |
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| 19:01 |
Krock |
because you won't read many books |
| 19:02 |
exio4 |
uf I had one I would read more because it would be cheaper |
| 19:02 |
exio4 |
if* |
| 19:02 |
Fixer |
i read books on my lenovo yoga, it is awesome for reading, pdf/djvu if you know what i mean |
| 19:02 |
exio4 |
but I meant quality wise |
| 19:03 |
exio4 |
battery wise, etc |
| 19:04 |
exio4 |
laptops are expensive |
| 19:05 |
exio4 |
and they suck for long sessions |
| 19:05 |
exio4 |
8+ hours reading? your eyes will say nope nope |
| 19:05 |
sfan5 |
how about 8 hrs watching porn |
| 19:06 |
rubenwardy |
Making an app logo attempt 1: https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/2o8Diyn1.png |
| 19:06 |
exio4 |
but, books have that feelin' |
| 19:06 |
rubenwardy |
http://pasteboard.co/2o8Diyn1.png |
| 19:06 |
exio4 |
so, is the switch to ebooks alright? |
| 19:08 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy, looks like a candy tree on the first one |
| 19:08 |
Calinou |
also, don't use "long shadow" effect, it's so 2014 :( |
| 19:08 |
rubenwardy |
cherry |
| 19:09 |
rubenwardy |
that's material design though |
| 19:09 |
rubenwardy |
? |
| 19:09 |
Calinou |
no, Material Design does not mandate the use of long shadows |
| 19:09 |
Calinou |
http://getmdl.io/components/index.html :) |
| 19:14 |
Fixer |
so 2014? lol |
| 19:15 |
Fixer |
please give me back my windows classic design from win 2000 and fuck everybody who dislikes it |
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| 19:17 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: fuck windows, get debian or one of the ubuntu derivatives. |
| 19:17 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 19:17 |
Fixer |
easy, clean and simple, now it is hipsters and UI changes everyday without reason |
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| 19:17 |
VanessaE |
XFCE probably would meet your needs nicely. |
| 19:17 |
Fixer |
every release there is fucking UI redesign :( |
| 19:17 |
DoyleChris |
Vanessae |
| 19:17 |
VanessaE |
yes? |
| 19:18 |
DoyleChris |
is there a way to increase the water pump pressure in pipeworks |
| 19:18 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, i do lean towards XFCE, but don't like some aspects of it, memory usage is too high, and default panels need some configuring |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
https://lut.im/I3e2h3uuAH/prgDqOJM0w1PGdyj.png |
| 19:18 |
Calinou |
this is my desktop |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
DoyleChris: in the master branch, no, not really. in the new_flow_logic branch, use more pumps. they're additive/linear, so two will fill a pipeline twice as fast as one. |
| 19:19 |
Calinou |
I use https://github.com/horst3180/arc-theme and https://github.com/snwh/paper-icon-theme |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
but no one likes that branch |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: memory usage is high?? |
| 19:19 |
Calinou |
this is my Mumble, with MetroMumble dark theme: https://lut.im/Cs35QORtTh/M8DFt9134LzsEXyi.png |
| 19:19 |
Calinou |
and my HexChat: https://lut.im/CEmuPSnD1B/4yzGYBeWJg6BbWFl.png |
| 19:19 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, well, over 100 mb for such functionality, jeez |
| 19:19 |
Calinou |
looks pretty and dark :) |
| 19:19 |
Calinou |
great for working at night |
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| 19:20 |
Void7 |
here is my desktop :) |
| 19:20 |
Fixer |
Calinou, if your eyes are ok, my have problems and reads like crap on such backgrounds :( |
| 19:20 |
Void7 |
https://lut.im/nLaaSUqTtQ/oU0x4bkE3TmDxSZk.png |
| 19:20 |
kaadmy |
:D |
| 19:21 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: 100 MB isn't a lot of memory these days. |
| 19:21 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, don't say these words |
| 19:22 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, or they will use gigabytes soon |
| 19:22 |
Fixer |
I have 8 gb of RAM, and FUCK YOU SKYPE (200 mb for a shitty window with few functions in systray is too much) |
| 19:23 |
Fixer |
200 mb for pos |
| 19:23 |
DoyleChris |
waiting on my os to reinstall on my pi |
| 19:23 |
Fixer |
pfff |
| 19:24 |
sfan5 |
Fixer: >skype |
| 19:24 |
sfan5 |
>2016 |
| 19:24 |
rubenwardy |
Fixer, https://www.nngroup.com/articles/flat-design-long-exposure/ |
| 19:24 |
Fixer |
VanessaE, after that infamous crap with http-crashing, updated skype 5 to 7, memory usage doubled, fucking assholes |
| 19:24 |
rubenwardy |
your ui message reminded me of that |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
Skype::SpyingModule |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
that function is taking a lot of RAM |
| 19:24 |
* Calinou |
runs |
| 19:24 |
VanessaE |
well that's skype, a microshaft product. |
| 19:25 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, tired of flat, now buttons is text, f-ing hipsters |
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| 19:29 |
Fixer |
sfan5, what now? viber, tox, etc? |
| 19:29 |
sfan5 |
depends |
| 19:29 |
sfan5 |
what do you use skype for |
| 19:29 |
Fixer |
recently I've needed to register viber |
| 19:29 |
Fixer |
so i downloaded PC version |
| 19:29 |
rubenwardy |
Facebook has added video chat |
| 19:29 |
sfan5 |
isn't viber mainly a phone app? |
| 19:31 |
Fixer |
sfan5, but if they provide PC version, why the hell i need to install it on the phone? it has symbian OS anyway, why they don't let me activate it via PC? |
| 19:31 |
Fixer |
this is bullshit |
| 19:31 |
sfan5 |
>symbian phone |
| 19:31 |
sfan5 |
do you like in 2004? |
| 19:31 |
Fixer |
sfan5, fathers phone |
| 19:31 |
sfan5 |
s/like/live/ |
| 19:31 |
sfan5 |
anyway |
| 19:31 |
Fixer |
sfan5, good phone |
| 19:31 |
sfan5 |
get an android phone |
| 19:31 |
Fixer |
sfan5, i have android 2.3 phone |
| 19:32 |
sfan5 |
too old |
| 19:32 |
Fixer |
nope |
| 19:32 |
Fixer |
sfan5, buy me a new one :} |
| 19:32 |
sfan5 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 19:32 |
Fixer |
sfan5, it works good, no need to update |
| 19:33 |
sfan5 |
did you ever have the need to use a modern app like whatsapp |
| 19:33 |
Fixer |
sfan5, camera, calls, sms, internet is all i need, why do i need to spend money again on a same thing, just with newer OS? |
| 19:33 |
Fixer |
sfan5, nope, most of the contacts use skype |
| 19:33 |
sfan5 |
>calls & sms |
| 19:33 |
Fixer |
and it is installed on PC |
| 19:33 |
sfan5 |
what is this thing |
| 19:33 |
sfan5 |
if that an app |
| 19:33 |
sfan5 |
everyone just uses whatsapp (here in germany at least) |
| 19:34 |
Fixer |
sfan5, depends on prices of the internet via mobile |
| 19:35 |
sfan5 |
very expensive here in germany |
| 19:35 |
Fixer |
sfan5, ugh |
| 19:35 |
sfan5 |
still everyone uses whatsapp |
| 19:35 |
Fixer |
that needs evaluation |
| 19:35 |
Fixer |
what costs more |
| 19:35 |
sfan5 |
sms |
| 19:36 |
Fixer |
sms is pricy |
| 19:36 |
sfan5 |
also how you're gonna send videos or images |
| 19:36 |
Fixer |
sfan5, via skype |
| 19:36 |
Fixer |
sfan5, connect phone to PC -> skype -> whatever |
| 19:37 |
sfan5 |
you don't feel the need to communicate while not on your computer? |
| 19:37 |
Fixer |
sfan5, nope |
| 19:37 |
sfan5 |
wat |
| 19:37 |
sfan5 |
how does that work |
| 19:38 |
sfan5 |
great |
| 19:38 |
Fixer |
sfan5, i only transfer files via flash-drives or skype, end of story |
| 19:38 |
sfan5 |
xfce4-panel broke because a window vanished while i was opening the context menu of that window |
| 19:38 |
sfan5 |
yeah files |
| 19:38 |
sfan5 |
what about pictures |
| 19:38 |
Fixer |
sfan5, pictures = files |
| 19:38 |
sfan5 |
you don't take any? |
| 19:38 |
sfan5 |
i'm aware |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
i have DSLR camera for picture |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
s |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
camera in phone is 2mp crap so I use it rarely |
| 19:40 |
sfan5 |
you clearly need a better phone to understand what this is about |
| 19:40 |
Fixer |
sfan5, no i don't, i hate sign up to 1000 of services which i will use rarely |
| 19:40 |
Fixer |
and it will drain my battery in one day |
| 19:40 |
sfan5 |
1000 services? |
| 19:41 |
sfan5 |
it's mostly just everyone uses whatapp |
| 19:41 |
sfan5 |
some people also use snapchat |
| 19:41 |
sfan5 |
and that's it |
| 19:41 |
Fixer |
skype, viber, whatsup, facebook, mail, google drive, whatever |
| 19:41 |
Fixer |
this is nuts |
| 19:41 |
Fixer |
if you need files, send them via mail and don't bother me :} |
| 19:42 |
sfan5 |
how are all those related to your phone |
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| 19:42 |
sfan5 |
you apparently already have them |
| 19:42 |
Fixer |
sfan5, btw, is there small android phones still available? or hipsters ruined it again and phones are like big tablets? |
| 19:42 |
VanessaE |
we have a smartphone and have only signed up with, I think, two services (including google). works beautifully. |
| 19:42 |
sfan5 |
small phones exist yes |
| 19:43 |
Fixer |
sfan5, no, i have mail and skype, thats it, problem is that other people have lots of different crap, so i need to sign up everywhere |
| 19:43 |
Fixer |
to be really connected |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
tell those people to go suck eggs. |
| 19:43 |
Fixer |
my way is usually fuck you: just send via email |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
you don't have to sign up with stuff you don't want. |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
Calinou, more like this? http://pasteboard.co/2ob6UzFf.png |
| 19:44 |
Krock |
where's the oerkki? :( |
| 19:44 |
Fixer |
Krock, they are here, at least on ESM |
| 19:44 |
Krock |
ESM - ehm sorry what? |
| 19:44 |
Fixer |
Krock, oops, you mean on the picture? |
| 19:45 |
Krock |
no, I mean the link that leads to a site with a picture |
| 19:45 |
Fixer |
Krock, behind the tree |
| 19:45 |
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| 19:45 |
Fixer |
:] |
| 19:45 |
Krock |
no no, oerkkis are always in the dark |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
I started simplifying the logo then stopped, but didn't add the oerkkis back |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
Material design likes simple shapes |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
but there's no way to do that that I can see without redrawing |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
so I decided not to do it |
| 19:46 |
Fixer |
also, on a side note, whats up with all this cancer in the MT chats? kids talking about it, wth? |
| 19:47 |
rubenwardy |
kids are stupid |
| 19:47 |
Fixer |
or they just playing? |
| 19:47 |
rubenwardy |
well |
| 19:47 |
rubenwardy |
you know what I mean |
| 19:47 |
Fixer |
hard to tell |
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| 19:47 |
Fixer |
things like, i'm 16 and i'm pregnant with twins |
| 19:47 |
Fixer |
not sure if troll or real |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
or maybe it is some 40 yr old guy from USA |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
open source developer |
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| 19:50 |
Fixer |
or worse |
| 19:52 |
Fixer |
some guy went nuts, and managed to make this http://storage4.static.itmages.ru/i/15/0630/h_1435625305_6866000_8672613bc0.png |
| 19:53 |
Fixer |
that windows 95 feel |
| 19:53 |
Fixer |
i wonder if that PCs with 4 mb of ram are still in schools |
| 19:55 |
rubenwardy |
I wouldn't have wanted to go to those schools |
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| 19:57 |
Fixer |
i visited my school not long ago, but everything was closed except my class were i was 10 yrs ago :( |
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| 20:06 |
DoyleChris |
vanessae what was the command for the server compile |
| 20:10 |
VanessaE |
DoyleChris: I build using this script: http://pastebin.com/Di14XAmD |
| 20:10 |
VanessaE |
your environment likely will be different since it's a RPi |
| 20:11 |
DoyleChris |
its still linux |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
yeah but it ain't x86. |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
it's ARM or some such |
| 20:12 |
VanessaE |
idk how that works when building something |
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| 20:12 |
DoyleChris |
I can try |
| 20:14 |
DoyleChris |
how do you run the script |
| 20:14 |
VanessaE |
you just..um...run it? |
| 20:14 |
VanessaE |
but again that script probably will not work for you as-is |
| 20:15 |
DoyleChris |
i copied into the terminal and nothing |
| 20:15 |
VanessaE |
a script is something you have to save as a file, EDIT IT to your needs, and then run it with ./whatever_you_saved_it_as |
| 20:15 |
VanessaE |
e.g. ./build_server.sh or something. |
| 20:21 |
Fixer |
lol |
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sfan5 |
i cant remove suggested live streams from my yt suggestions |
| 20:22 |
sfan5 |
google pls |
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| 20:25 |
Fixer |
wat? |
| 20:27 |
Fixer |
btw, i've heared google canceled that google+yt thing, wanted to comment in one video, and... it wants to create some profile, wth? |
| 20:27 |
Fixer |
i don't want to create a profile |
| 20:27 |
Fixer |
want to add simple comment, very rarely |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy, looks nice |
| 20:47 |
rubenwardy |
woah |
| 20:48 |
rubenwardy |
I just found a page documenting the padding icons should have. I then put rules in inkscape where the padding should be and I already have the right padding! |
| 20:48 |
rubenwardy |
like exactly |
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rubenwardy |
Calinou, https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/2og1IeNv.png |
| 21:01 |
Calinou |
only 720×1280? :( |
| 21:02 |
Calinou |
my phone is 1440×2560 :) |
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rubenwardy |
stfu |
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Dragonop |
lmao |
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Swervz |
Hi is there a way to change the fov in minetest. default is unbearable |
| 21:09 |
Swervz |
please |
| 21:10 |
ssieb |
Swervz: if you have a dev minetest, it's in the advanced settings. Otherwise you have to edit the config file. |
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* ssieb |
has no idea why it would need to be changed though... |
| 21:11 |
Swervz |
A developer version? |
| 21:11 |
Swervz |
I have the stable release, do you know what config it is? thanks |
| 21:11 |
Swervz |
I cant play a game unless hte fov is around 90 |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
Swervz, in Minetest, the FOV is vertical, default is 72 I think. |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
edit your minetest.conf, add: "fov = 80" |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
for higher FOV |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
but 90 is probably too high for most people :) |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
since it's vertical, and not horizontal |
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Swervz |
hmm |
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Swervz |
Wouldnt this work? http://www.rjdown.co.uk/projects/bfbc2/fovcalculator.php |
| 21:13 |
Swervz |
I used it to make the fov in arma 2 90 and I think arma uses verticle fov |
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Swervz |
This game is relly nice |
| 21:16 |
Swervz |
Minecraft performs so badly becuase of java |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
no: |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
- Minecraft 1.9 performs quite well, it's very optimized |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
- Modern versions of Java are fast. Often 90% as fast as C++ |
| 21:20 |
Swervz |
I seem to be getting about 65% more fps in this game than vanilla minecraft |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
some optimizations landed in Minetest recently (VBO), they will be available in 0.4.14 |
| 21:20 |
Swervz |
nice |
| 21:20 |
Swervz |
i really perfer c++ to java to be honest |
| 21:21 |
Calinou |
yeah but C++ is quite harder than Java |
| 21:21 |
Swervz |
eh |
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Swervz |
I started to learn c++ and it was fun |
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Swervz |
Thanks for that fov setting its alot better now. |
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nrzkt |
can someone test the connection to my server (86.246.185.40 port 30000) please ? i need to do a test |
| 21:42 |
Fixer |
okay |
| 21:43 |
rubenwardy |
My bank decided to block my payment to play.google.com as being suspicious. I hate being on hold so much |
| 21:44 |
cat5e |
can anyone help me port minetest to rust? |
| 21:44 |
Fixer |
o_0 |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
| 21:44 |
cat5e |
C++ sucks |
| 21:45 |
Fixer |
nrzkt, started downloaded, downloaded some more, then access denied: could not download |
| 21:45 |
Fixer |
nrzkt, now connection timeout |
| 21:45 |
Fixer |
cat5e, please port it from irrlicht to ogre |
| 21:45 |
* Fixer |
runs |
| 21:46 |
sofar |
unreal engine? |
| 21:46 |
cat5e |
??? |
| 21:46 |
Swervz |
ogre.. |
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nrzkt |
i cut it :p |
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nrzkt |
Calinou, tested it |
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nrzkt |
thanks Fixer :) |
| 21:47 |
nrzkt |
Uhrno 3d |
| 21:47 |
nrzkt |
Urho 3d* |
| 21:47 |
Swervz |
Don't be knocking ogre now |
| 21:47 |
Fixer |
cat5e, fuck the rust, you are starting porting to ogre!11 |
| 21:48 |
sfan5 |
!up 86.246.185.40 |
| 21:48 |
MinetestBot |
86.246.185.40:30000 seems to be down |
| 21:48 |
Swervz |
Rigs of rods was made in ogre |
| 21:48 |
Swervz |
made with ogre* |
| 21:48 |
cat5e |
rust is better than C++ |
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sofar |
completely baseless statement |
| 21:49 |
cat5e |
rust is small compared to C++, so you can actually learn it |
| 21:49 |
sofar |
there's stuff you can't do in rust, and there's stuff rust does that C++ makes hard to do |
| 21:49 |
sfan5 |
what about c and rust |
| 21:49 |
sofar |
but swiping statements about programming language are nonsense |
| 21:50 |
cat5e |
rust is small compared to C++, so you can actually learn it |
| 21:50 |
sofar |
again |
| 21:50 |
cat5e |
that makes rust better than C++ |
| 21:50 |
Swervz |
Strawman argument |
| 21:50 |
sofar |
you're just generalizing |
| 21:50 |
sofar |
logical fallacy much? |
| 21:50 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy, publish to F-Droid :) |
| 21:51 |
Calinou |
and as direct .apk |
| 21:51 |
* Calinou |
learned recently that one can download Firefox for Android in .apk form… |
| 21:51 |
Swervz |
sofar: Thats what a strawman argument is |
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sofar |
I know |
| 21:51 |
cat5e |
Swervz, what do you mean? |
| 21:51 |
cat5e |
I only said rust is better than C++ because rust is learnable |
| 21:52 |
sofar |
cat5e: ""you're making an unbased claim, therefore you must be stupid"" |
| 21:52 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: f-droid is not the solution if you want to publish an app to the "general public" |
| 21:52 |
Swervz |
cat5e: "HUUR DURR C++ TOO HARD" |
| 21:52 |
Calinou |
yes but such an app doesn't need to be available to the general public, probably |
| 21:52 |
cat5e |
Swervz, C++ stdlib is INSANE compared to rust stdlib |
| 21:52 |
rubenwardy |
I will publish to F-Droid at a later date |
| 21:52 |
rubenwardy |
but not a priority |
| 21:52 |
nm0i |
f-droid has in its name what it thinks about "general public" |
| 21:52 |
rubenwardy |
maybe tomorrow I will |
| 21:53 |
cat5e |
I wish C++ would just deprecate half its stdlib :/ |
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Swervz |
C++ is so nice |
| 21:54 |
Krock |
C-- |
| 21:54 |
Krock |
C was increased too much today.. had to decrease again |
| 21:54 |
Calinou |
C+= |
| 21:54 |
cat5e |
rust macros are just as powerful as C++ templates |
| 21:55 |
Swervz |
Use asm |
| 21:55 |
Krock |
powerful as in "needs much more power to calculate"? |
| 21:55 |
rubenwardy |
I feel like cat5e is just here to troll |
| 21:55 |
cat5e |
Krock, powerful as in turing-complete |
| 21:55 |
Krock |
feed the trolls! It's boring here |
| 21:55 |
Swervz |
rubenwardy: obviously |
| 21:55 |
cat5e |
rubenwardy, nah I just noticed one of the minetest devs hangs around rust chats and stuff |
| 21:55 |
Krock |
we also need global warming because trump has cold in NY |
| 21:55 |
Fixer |
cat5e, first port it to ogre3d, than we can talk about rust ._. |
| 21:56 |
Swervz |
Use cryengine becuase it looks better /s |
| 21:57 |
Calinou |
celeron55 wrote Buildat which is a Minetest-style game using Urho3D |
| 21:57 |
Calinou |
it's not being worked on anymore |
| 21:57 |
Hijiri |
C-- exists |
| 21:57 |
Hijiri |
it's an intermediate language for haskell compilation I think |
| 21:57 |
Swervz |
minecraft clone using ogre3d? |
| 21:57 |
cat5e |
Fixer, except ogre3d is a C++ engine and rust is a programming language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(programming_language) |
| 21:58 |
nrzkt |
cat5e, i presume you are talking about glibc++. Yes bsd libc++ is better :p |
| 21:59 |
Swervz |
So can I talk offtopic in here |
| 22:01 |
Fixer |
Krock, global warming, mmm, https://41.media.tumblr.com/b3e76c77c47ca0d5e1e57c1e901f528a/tumblr_o3zrtrHltg1v33hszo1_1280.png |
| 22:01 |
Krock |
^^ |
| 22:01 |
Krock |
his beautiful hair |
| 22:01 |
Krock |
*cough* |
| 22:02 |
Fixer |
Krock, also, this one http://40.media.tumblr.com/9b0997f11ae692c8ef5048f85bd64f5a/tumblr_o444acvoPb1v33hszo1_500.jpg |
| 22:03 |
Krock |
no ide why but this reminds me to the "let's draw mohammed"-day |
| 22:03 |
Krock |
*idea |
| 22:03 |
Swervz |
Meanwhile https://i.sli.mg/p6JkHu.png |
| 22:04 |
Fixer |
Krock, http://41.media.tumblr.com/db98da01ca19abe3adcc7c8d07d429c1/tumblr_o1wacd3ksL1v33hszo1_1280.jpg |
| 22:04 |
Swervz |
Wow thats really high energy |
| 22:05 |
Krock |
\o/ image party |
| 22:05 |
Swervz |
http://imgur.com/pB7nG5x |
| 22:05 |
Swervz |
poor kid |
| 22:06 |
Krock |
and now it's bernie's fault |
| 22:08 |
Swervz |
https://i.imgur.com/mYrfEq7.jpg |
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MinetestBot |
Wuzzy: 01-15 18:20 UTC <kaadmy> is there a way to change the language in the Tutorial subgame/world? |
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Wuzzy |
kaadmy, are u there? |
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DoyleChris |
I am able to run the server but its not happy |
| 22:12 |
DoyleChris |
saying system wide share not found |
| 22:12 |
DoyleChris |
and when i connect it dosent say that i connected and my connection times out. |
| 22:12 |
Wuzzy |
I know the answer to your question, kaadmy, it is “Yes.â€. Either change system language or change language variable in minetest.conf. I am not sure which works |
| 22:13 |
Wuzzy |
how does MinetestBot work? |
| 22:18 |
rubenwardy |
kaadmy, 2016-01-15 |
| 22:19 |
rubenwardy |
MinetestBot has only recently had !tell fixed |
| 22:19 |
sfan5 |
Wuzzy: in short, it doens't |
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DoyleChris |
any idea on the server error |
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rubenwardy |
DoyleChris, did you run sudo make install? |
| 22:26 |
rubenwardy |
How did you get Minetest? |
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DoyleChris |
no i used this compile instructions http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Compiling_on_GNU.2FLinux |
| 22:37 |
DoyleChris |
now i can join the server after running singleplayer server, but now i still get the system-wide share not found and couldnt find local directory |
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DoyleChris |
just trying to figure out the share problem |
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DoyleChris |
how do you give yourself admin rights on your own server |
| 23:14 |
swift110 |
hey all |
| 23:15 |
DoyleChris |
anybody |
| 23:16 |
swift110 |
DoyleChris: if anyone knows they will answer you |
| 23:18 |
DoyleChris |
ok found it did a little digging |
| 23:19 |
swift110 |
good to hear |
| 23:19 |
melzua |
DoyleChris: in minetest.conf from the server: name = <the admin player name> |
| 23:19 |
swift110 |
how long have you been playing minetest DoyleChris |
| 23:19 |
melzua |
DoyleChris: and the when you log in the game woth this name, grant <adminname> all |
| 23:19 |
melzua |
then* |
| 23:20 |
DoyleChris |
last feb |
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swift110 |
thats cool DoyleChris I have played it and I like it quite a bit |
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melzua |
DoyleChris: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L1445 |
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DoyleChris |
where is the log file for the server kept |
| 23:42 |
DoyleChris |
running a server is so screwed up |
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