Time Nick Message 00:01 twoelk then I would have to know how to calculate the lengths inbetween - I am clueless for now - and I am not aware of an algorithm that can do trail and error ;-P 00:31 kaeza well, formspec coords suck 00:33 kaeza huge FPS frops near pine(?) trees :( 00:34 kaeza dunno if it's the trees or the snow 00:35 rubenwardy try using simple leaves, kaeza, and see if that hepls 00:36 kaeza rubenwardy, I always play with min settings (except for 3D clouds and transparent liquids) 00:37 rubenwardy oh, ok 00:37 kaeza oh wait. didn't notice "simple leaves" 00:38 kaeza uh, that's worse 00:38 kaeza well, no big deal anyway 00:39 kaeza can't expect to have 120 FPS with 1000 draw dist on an Intel integrated card 00:45 kaadmy :} 00:45 kaadmy i get around 30 node viewing range at around 10 fps with 8 items in the hotbar since the mesh items commit 00:46 VanessaE kaadmy: is that better, or worse? 00:47 kaadmy a lot worse 00:47 kaadmy disable hud now, i get around 40 fps without changing any settings 00:47 kaadmy enable hud, drops to about 50% or worse 00:59 VanessaE I thought that had been fixed already 01:00 kaadmy ^ i seem to be the only person with that problem 01:01 kaadmy intel integrated+outdated(10+ years) laptop that hates any opengl 01:03 VanessaE that sounds more like a driver issue 01:03 VanessaE even 10 years old integrated graphics ought to handle something like mesh-based HUD/inventory well 01:03 VanessaE (or just stop using a lappy for this. they ain't meant for such games :) ) 01:04 kaadmy yeah ;( 01:13 Fixer kaeza, never 01:14 Fixer VanessaE, probably really old hardware, integrated was even worse s--- back then 01:15 Fixer kaadmy, you better update that calculator 01:15 VanessaE hehj 01:16 Fixer there is pr #3770 that can improve fps even more (very big boost for me), but noone is fixing bugs on it (except RBA who can't right now) 01:16 Fixer with shaders on 01:17 Fixer users with slow cards should notice a difference 01:18 Fixer kaadmy, also, try vbo on 01:18 Fixer kaadmy, update to newer build 01:19 kaadmy i can't play with shaders, fog is broken + huge fps reduction yet again :'( 01:19 Fixer kaadmy, F3 to disable fog 01:20 XeonSquared What Intel Integrated? 01:20 Fixer kaadmy, again, buy normal computer, don't waste your life on a slow piece of crap 01:22 XeonSquared hey man 01:22 XeonSquared slow boxen can run Minetest surprisingly well in my experience 01:23 XeonSquared http://lain.shadowkat.science/~izaya/ideapad-s10e.txt this thing can get a fairly solid 30FPS 01:36 kaeza http://www.asrock.com/mb/intel/g41m-vs3%20r2.0/ 01:36 kaeza make of that what you will 01:41 kaeza thing still runs way better than Minecrapht :) 02:22 Daven_ ay VanessaE 02:22 Daven_ idk if u remember me xD 02:32 VanessaE I might have if he had stayed long enough for me to akswer. 02:32 VanessaE answer* 02:55 sofar :63 02:57 everamzah mouse hover focus, sofar? 02:58 sofar absolutely 02:58 everamzah :D 03:15 everamzah cool, can't wait to see how you did it 03:15 sofar the beds thing? 03:15 everamzah yep 03:16 sofar mostly the problem was the use of on_after_place() 03:16 sofar I just rewrote the on_place() from scratch which replaces it 03:16 everamzah i figured since there's meshnode doors, there could be meshnode beds. i think that'd be a good consistency 03:16 everamzah aha! 03:16 sofar this can still be converted entirely to mesh nodes later 03:16 everamzah yes 03:17 everamzah hope so 03:17 sofar rotation should work already, btw 03:17 sofar haha no, broken :) 03:17 everamzah btw i personally feel protection check shouldn't happen on rightclick, but instead before beds.set_spawn() and only if enable_respawn were false 03:18 sofar there's no such thing as beds.owner. do you suggest allowing people to use beds in others' areas? 03:18 everamzah sure, why not 03:18 everamzah if i make a hotel and protect it, i might still want ppl to lay down 03:19 sofar mk, that's reasonable 03:19 everamzah just maybe not set their respawn 03:20 everamzah (and only if enable_respawn were true*, rather) 04:27 rubenwardy Err... You wot mate? https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/2nd3HwyK.png 04:27 rubenwardy Minetest can't create it either... time to restart! 04:27 VanessaE oops? heh 04:28 everamzah accessing to it? 04:28 rubenwardy yeah, just noticed 04:28 rubenwardy never got that dialog before so haven't proof read much 04:57 VanessaE bbl 06:41 sofar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3G-52FV4SI kaboom kaboom 07:42 MinetestBot Megaf: 03-03 15:44 UTC https://www.dropbox.com/s/rgc7snykovkvtdg/fakesun.zip?dl=0 hacky, but WFM 07:43 Megaf hm 07:43 MinetestBot Megaf: 03-07 17:25 UTC ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 07:43 Megaf Hi all 07:46 Megaf !tell Jordach 😒 07:46 MinetestBot Megaf: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around 07:46 Megaf !tell kaeza ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 07:46 MinetestBot Megaf: yeah, sure, whatever 07:47 Megaf (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ 07:47 Megaf ┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\ 07:47 Megaf （　ﾟДﾟ） 07:47 Megaf ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ) 07:48 MinetestBot est31: 10-04 23:23 UTC check the Norwegian translation commit, the a char with the dot is maybe breating minetestbot... 07:48 MinetestBot TypeError: 'SomeObject' object is not callable (file "/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/tell.py", line 95, in checktell) 07:48 Megaf !tell kaeza www.dropbox.com took too long to respond. 07:48 MinetestBot Megaf: yeah, yeah 07:48 Megaf !tell kaeza www.dropbox.com took too long to respond. 07:48 MinetestBot Megaf: I'll pass that on when kaeza is around 07:49 Megaf Hey est31 07:50 Megaf Hows things 07:50 est31 hi 07:50 MinetestBot est31: 11-07 15:24 UTC That error message was probably caused by a MinGW pre-compiled library conflict with MSVC 07:50 est31 going well 07:53 Megaf cool 07:55 Megaf Morning LazyJ 07:56 LazyJ Howdy, Megaf ;) 07:56 Megaf Just let me quote myself, something I wrote in another channel 07:56 Megaf Isnt it funny? Back in the day we already had the perfect OS, there were two perfect OSes actually, they were fast, responsive, good for multimedia and somewhat easy to use 07:56 Megaf we had BeOS and RiscOS 07:56 Megaf both running on better and more powerful or efficient architectures, PowerPC and ARM 07:57 Megaf !tell ShadowBot Bad bot. 07:57 MinetestBot Megaf: I'll pass that on when ShadowBot is around 07:57 Megaf !tell ShadowBot !server Megaf 07:57 MinetestBot Megaf: I'll pass that on when ShadowBot is around 08:25 CWz hmm 09:11 sfan5 Megaf: why !tell it 2 times 09:15 Megaf sfan5, Because I see people using !tell twice when bot says yeah yeah 09:15 Megaf as if the bot wasnt in the mood are giving the message 09:15 sfan5 *sigh* 09:15 sfan5 as long as the bot doesn't respond with an obvious error message it succeeded 09:16 sfan5 "yeah, yeah" is the same as "I'll pass that on when is around" 09:18 Megaf if you say so 09:18 sfan5 Megaf: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/tell.py#L73-L76 09:19 Krock xD 09:19 Krock I love that "Yeah, sure" thing 09:19 Megaf sfan5, by the way, did you see this? Me compiling Minetest with GCC 6.0, lots and lots of warnings. http://paste.debian.net/plain/416935 09:21 sfan5 no didnt see that 09:21 sfan5 but basically it's just "bad" indentation and "in C++11 destructors default to noexcept" 09:54 Megaf 2016-03-19 09:44:45: [Server] WtfZiom [159.205.190.108] joins game. 09:54 Megaf 2016-03-19 09:45:38: [Server] CHAT: megaf can i be a admin? 09:55 Megaf I will never understand these people that join the server for the first time and soon after ask to be admin 09:55 Thomas-S Megaf, I can tell you another, even more funny, case: 09:56 Thomas-S I am admin on OldCoder Lord of the Test. Players have to ask for interact there. 09:56 Thomas-S Once, a player joined and asked, if he could be admin. He didn't even have interact! :D 09:56 twoelk well that might be exactly what they are looking for - a place where they can administer other players 09:57 Thomas-S I told, that he needs interact first, then he used the very bad word starting with "F" 09:58 Out`Of`Control why ask? just join as me_admin_plz !!! 09:58 Thomas-S lol 09:59 twoelk actually I know such a person quite well. He can only play if he can make the rules and tell everybody exactly how to play - I told him to become puppeteer or film director 09:59 Out`Of`Control i love to troll them 10:00 Out`Of`Control revoke shout or interact, they don't see it :D 10:00 Out`Of`Control Megaf: how many admins are on your server? 10:03 Megaf Out`Of`Control, around 10 I think 10:03 Out`Of`Control wow 10:06 Megaf sin, Gronx, LforLeeeeeeeX, Sofia, Jessch8285, Hamza568, Tahirah, Haiku, Megaf, pi, shadowzone, PosenedArrow, LazyJ, BudderWorrier 10:06 Megaf Out`Of`Control, those 10:06 Out`Of`Control ok 10:06 Megaf s/Jessch8285/Jessch8281 10:06 Megaf Out`Of`Control, know any of them? 10:07 Out`Of`Control Megaf: only 3 10:15 sfan5 !py tell.tell.__globals__["checktell"](phenny, ext(filter(lambda e: setattr(e,"nick","Magaf") or True,[BaseException()]))) 10:15 MinetestBot NameError: name 'ext' is not defined (file "/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py) 10:15 sfan5 !py tell.tell.__globals__["checktell"](phenny,next(filter(lambda e: setattr(e,"nick","Magaf") or True,[BaseException()]))) 10:15 MinetestBot Magaf: 01-28 23:38 UTC Thanks for your help in tracking down the issues I was having :-) 10:15 MinetestBot None 10:15 sfan5 ^ Megaf also for you 10:19 Megaf Oh, thanks 10:19 Megaf !tell greeter You're welcome :) 10:19 MinetestBot Megaf: I'll pass that on when greeter is around 10:20 Megaf greeter, oh, Hi there 10:21 Megaf dropbox.com is not opening here 10:21 Megaf It is now 10:22 sfan5 !servers players:most 10:22 sfan5 !server players:most 10:22 MinetestBot sfan5: skyblock server | shivajiva101.nsupdate.info:30001 | Clients: 23/40, 17/36 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 43ms 10:24 nrzkt !py sys.exit(0) 10:24 nrzkt !py print "toto" 10:24 nrzkt sfan5, are you the only allowed to do !py ? :) 10:24 sfan5 yes 10:24 sfan5 also i'm using python 3 so you'd need brackets with print 10:25 sfan5 any sys is probably not defined 10:25 sfan5 !py sys 10:25 MinetestBot NameError: name 'sys' is not defined (file "/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py) 10:28 Megaf !tell kaeza that fakesun is very neat, thanks a million! 10:28 MinetestBot Megaf: I'll pass that on when kaeza is around 12:24 Foghrye4 It's my internet connection not working or it is everybody keep silence? 12:25 sfan5 silence 12:25 Foghrye4 You all guys are frickin' creeps. 12:26 Foghrye4 Except you, sfan5. 14:17 rubenwardy ShadowBot, hi! 14:33 Fixer VanessaE, cleared up cache and trying to connect to dreambuilder creative, progress at 50%, 400 sec passed already and I've stopped counting 14:34 Fixer VanessaE, so first connect is 5-10 min 14:34 Fixer ._. 14:34 VanessaE that's sadly rather normal 14:34 VanessaE though for me it usually takes only about a minute 14:36 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: lua_api.txt: improve vector documentation 13d915ca1 https://git.io/vaPNq (152016-03-19T15:34:51+01:00) 14:37 Fixer still connecting 14:37 Fixer .____. 14:37 Fixer 10+ mins 14:39 Fixer connect 14:39 VanessaE there you are 14:39 VanessaE maybe you just have a slow pipe 14:39 VanessaE VE-C has like 40 MB of media 14:40 Fixer VanessaE, nope, my pipe is 2mbit and it was not even utilized at all at connect 14:40 VanessaE idk then 14:40 rubenwardy remote_media, ofc, VanessaE? 14:40 VanessaE rubenwardy: yeah 14:40 Fixer VanessaE, it was downloading with like 12kbyte/s 14:40 VanessaE Fixer: does your build have cURL support? 14:40 rubenwardy maybe the server is being saturated with requests? 14:41 Fixer VanessaE, yes 14:41 VanessaE I'll check it in a minute, Fixer. 14:42 Fixer i can down 20mb in <2 min, yet it was over 10min 14:42 VanessaE start. 14:43 VanessaE media loading... 14:43 VanessaE wow wtf? that's FAR slower than it ought to be 14:44 VanessaE here comes a big chunk, briefly 14:44 VanessaE finished. 14:45 VanessaE initializing nodes now. 14:45 VanessaE the peak transfer rate was about 7.3 Mbps 14:46 VanessaE done. 14:46 VanessaE total time: 3 minutes. 14:47 Fixer VanessaE, cleared your cache? 14:47 VanessaE yep. 14:48 Fixer VanessaE, want to observe me connecting again? with cleared cache 14:49 VanessaE if you want, but really it's all on your end. 14:49 VanessaE has to be, if I can slurp down 39MB of media in 2 mins. 14:49 Fixer VanessaE, one sec 14:50 VanessaE (just checked the usage, as VE-C is the only server that I've connected to since clearing the cache) 14:50 Fixer start 14:50 Fixer media 14:51 Fixer DL: 10 kbyte / s 14:52 Fixer VanessaE, i see smth weird on debug 14:52 VanessaE I think your build doesn't really have cURL support then 14:53 VanessaE a few 404 errors right? 14:53 Fixer VanessaE, few? lol 14:53 Fixer VanessaE, it is like 5 errors per second 14:53 VanessaE there should be like four files that throw several 404's 14:53 VanessaE wat? 14:53 Fixer LOL 14:53 Fixer debug is over 1mb now 14:54 VanessaE are you sure you don't have a firewall blocking you? 14:54 VanessaE some folks have reported that daconcepts.com triggers false firewall/antivirus warnings 14:54 VanessaE (which would among other things block your access to the server over http) 14:55 Fixer VanessaE, hold on, i will check firewall 14:56 VanessaE check your antivirus also. just point your browser to daconcepts.com and see what it does. 14:56 VanessaE if it throws malware warnings, disregard them and add my site to your whitelist. I know for a solid fact that my site is safe :P 14:56 Fixer it is good 14:57 rubenwardy Do you see the public server list? 14:58 Fixer VanessaE, errors like this http://pastebin.com/raw/Gz4w971v 14:58 Fixer rubenwardy, ofc 14:58 rubenwardy It doesn't work on non-curl 14:58 rubenwardy Oh, so you do have curl 14:58 VanessaE Fixer: that would be the issue then. 14:58 Fixer VanessaE, megabytes of your errors :} 14:58 VanessaE let me re-check again. 14:58 rubenwardy That happened to me 14:59 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ rm -rf .cache/minetest/ 14:59 VanessaE connect 14:59 VanessaE whoa 14:59 VanessaE shittons of them for me too 14:59 VanessaE guest the regular media_fubar code is pretty fast 14:59 VanessaE shit 15:00 rubenwardy find . -name '*.png' -exec mv {} /path/to/remote/media/path/ \; 15:00 rubenwardy VanessaE, run on server where . is games/yourgame/ 15:00 rubenwardy also need to do on *.b3d and *.ogg 15:00 VanessaE rubenwardy: I'm using sfan5's script for media management 15:00 rubenwardy fixed errors for me 15:00 VanessaE index.mth etc. 15:00 rubenwardy I do too 15:00 rubenwardy but then I got those errors 15:01 VanessaE this makes no sense. 15:01 rubenwardy maybe the client code has been screwed up 15:01 Calinou .b3d, .x, .obj, .md2 are the 4 mesh formats supported by Minetest by the way 15:01 Calinou you probably should include them all, the first 3 are all common in mods 15:01 rubenwardy Well, after doing only png b3d ogg worked for me 15:01 rubenwardy as capturetheflag has no models apart from the player 15:02 VanessaE how the hell am I supposed to debug this? 15:02 rubenwardy try reverting the client, I guess 15:02 VanessaE index.mth is binary, and the debug log doesn't give me filename hashes 15:03 VanessaE 2016-03-19 11:06:47: ERROR[CurlFetch]: http://minetest.daconcepts.com/server-media/moreblocks_slope_outer_cut_half_raised.obj not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404) 15:03 VanessaE <--- which file in my media cache is that supposed to be? 15:03 VanessaE THIS is why I don't like the index.mth method 15:04 Calinou to be honest the remote_media implementation of Minetest kind of sucks 15:04 VanessaE yes, it does. 15:04 Calinou most Quake-based games do it infinitely better: you don't have to rename files at all 15:04 Calinou and cache does not rename media names either 15:05 VanessaE how long has my server been broken like this? >:-( 15:09 VanessaE it's the whole fucking media tree. wtf? 15:11 VanessaE ok I don't understand. 15:11 VanessaE at least one of the files in the remote_media dir matches the same hash in minetest's downloaded cache 15:13 VanessaE and OF COURSE browsers and image viewers don't know what to do with those files because they lack file extensions 15:16 est Calinou, i consider it a feature 15:16 est it should just be automated some way 15:16 est it will just lead to weird bugs 15:18 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~/.cache/minetest/media$ f="ffc2fcd5d1b73e18aa5aa9f5b8903180f652b6ce" 15:18 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~/.cache/minetest/media$ echo -ne $f | xxd -r -p ����ѷ>�Z����1��R��vanessa@rainbird:~/.cache/minetest/media$ 15:18 VanessaE wtf? 15:19 VanessaE where the hell did I get this from? 15:19 VanessaE that's the line that (in part) echoes filenames to the index.mth 15:19 VanessaE looks like the same data as is given by cat "$f" | openssl dgst -binary -sha1 (sfan5's script) 15:20 Fixer i'm back 15:20 Fixer was afk sry 15:22 Fixer 16:49 - 17:03 15:22 Fixer okay 15:23 Fixer VanessaE, so what now? 15:24 VanessaE I don't know. 15:24 VanessaE I'm trying to sort it out. read the channel backscroll. 15:26 Fixer VanessaE, well since I've rarely seen them will players, probably a lot fo time %) 15:36 VanessaE Fixer: looks like a BUNCH of files are just not being picked up by my remote_media script. 15:37 Fixer VanessaE, huge bunch %) 15:37 VanessaE I'm trying to fix it. 15:44 afflatus Weird issue #00meh - some of my 32px wool textures have been replaced by 16px minetest_game textures - I do not have a clue why. I've cleared texture cache and they're still there. I'm not expecting anyone else to have a clue either. 15:45 afflatus Anyway that's today's wtaf moment 15:46 afflatus And I've just found the cause ... mobs:snowman grr 16:02 Fixer VanessaE, success? 16:03 VanessaE no. 16:04 VanessaE not yet anyways. 16:05 VanessaE CWz: you need to fix the permissions on your tt_survival worldmods dirs. a few of them are not readable by user 'minetest'. 16:06 VanessaE (diplazer, 3dforniture, and ownerhack specifically) 16:06 CWz wats wrong? 16:06 VanessaE looks like 0700 perms on all three 16:07 VanessaE should be at least 0755 unless you have private stuff in there. 16:07 VanessaE but wait, don't change them yet. 16:13 CWz VanessaE, hmmm 16:13 * Fixer strikes everyone with very large bug 16:14 * CWz uses Mirror Coat 16:14 * Fixer activates snail perk 16:14 * nm0i mews 16:16 * Void7 activates Super Tree Powers 16:16 * kaadmy revs his chainsaw 16:16 * Fixer crashes everything 16:17 * kaadmy breaks Fixer 16:17 * Void7 runs 'rm -rf /' 16:17 * Void7 disconnects 16:18 Fixer Void7, motherboard damaged by rm -rf / 16:18 * Fixer summons Lennart 16:18 nm0i Oh no. systemd-minetest 16:19 Fixer minetest panics 16:19 Fixer player dumped 16:30 Yst Systemd with Minetest? That sounds nice. The Minetest server could be started whenever the server boots. 16:31 SmugLeaf writing a systemd unit or rc init script isn't hard 16:33 SmugLeaf http://dpaste.com/267XK1P 16:33 SmugLeaf I was even lazier with my irc setup 16:33 SmugLeaf just /etc/rc.local 16:35 Fixer yep (poker face) 16:35 stdh https://sources.debian.net/src/minetest/0.4.13%2Brepack-2/debian/minetest-server.service/ 16:35 CWz VanessaE, can i change them now? 16:35 VanessaE not yet. 16:35 CWz VanessaE, what happening? 16:35 VanessaE I think those bad permissions were corrupting my index.mth (by way of find() throwing error messages into it) 16:36 VanessaE so I'm testing that now 16:37 VanessaE nope, that wasn't it. 16:37 * VanessaE sighs 16:38 VanessaE even mundane shit like default_apple.png is being missed. 16:38 VanessaE how the hell am I supposed to debug this if I can't see the fucking filenames? 16:38 VanessaE what moron decided that index.mth should be binary? 16:39 rubenwardy what happens if you use a hex editor? 16:39 rubenwardy you might be able to see some ascii codes 16:39 VanessaE oh sure I can see the data in the file, but that's useless if I can't interpret what I'm seeing. 16:39 VanessaE it may as well all be nothing but random numbers. 16:41 Fixer debug all the things 16:42 CWz index.mth is kaput 16:42 SmugLeaf why are your shell scripts piping error messages 16:42 VanessaE SmugLeaf: they weren't. 16:43 SmugLeaf so how did $(find) do bad things 16:43 CWz I hope RealBadAngel is doing okay 16:43 VanessaE he's not. 16:43 VanessaE SmugLeaf: nevermind. 16:45 SmugLeaf okay 16:45 VanessaE that part was a brain-o. I'm still looking for the problem. 16:46 rubenwardy App is almost done: http://pasteboard.co/2nZsORAN.png 16:46 est O-o 16:47 CWz don't private repos cost cash 16:47 rubenwardy I'm a university student, and get 5 free 16:48 rubenwardy https://education.github.com/pack 16:55 DoyleChris need help with linux server 16:56 DoyleChris i compiled it on my RPi server and have the directory in /home/pi/minetest but i dont have a server file to run. 17:00 DoyleChris anybody have a answer 17:02 VanessaE RPi isn't really good enough to run a decent MT server. 17:03 VanessaE in any case, poke MegaF when he shows up next, I think he has experience with that. 17:05 DoyleChris well the new RPi 2 is a quad-core 1ghz 17:06 DoyleChris so i thought i would try but cant figure out how to get the latest 4.13 version and how to get the mods installed 17:15 Fixer why didn't I buy it before devaluation :/ 17:15 VanessaE Fixer: ah HAH, I've fixed the problem. 17:16 VanessaE it wasn't in my scripts. 17:16 VanessaE it was my nginx config, because minetest now uses POST to fetch index.mth (and my nginx was refusing it) 17:16 Fixer oh 17:16 Fixer so i can try now? 17:16 VanessaE wait. 17:16 VanessaE gonna benchmark it first. 17:17 DoyleChris anybody have knowledge on a linux minetest server 17:17 VanessaE MUCH MUCH better. 17:17 VanessaE media fetched in like 20 seconds 17:17 VanessaE you can try now. 17:17 VanessaE DoyleChris: you mean on a RPi server. 17:17 DoyleChris not just that any linux 17:17 VanessaE RPI != linux, not precisely anyway. 17:18 DoyleChris its the same setup 17:18 VanessaE I don't have any tips for you except to make sure you actually built the server binary 17:18 DoyleChris i can run the server by typing minetestserver in terminal but trying to add mods 17:19 Fixer st 17:19 VanessaE put your mods in your worldmods dir. 17:19 DoyleChris i compiled from here http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Compiling_on_GNU.2FLinux 17:19 VanessaE e.g. /home/{your_minetest_username}/.minetest/worlds/{your_world}/worldmods 17:20 Fixer VanessaE, nope, still lots of errors 17:20 DoyleChris then i went and did sudo apt-get minetest-server 17:20 Fixer VanessaE, creative dreambuilder 17:20 VanessaE Fixer: just a bunch of "dummy" errors right? 17:20 DoyleChris then i can run minetestserver it starts i can connect but not sure which directory to put it in 17:21 Fixer VanessaE, http://pastebin.com/raw/1gasA4ry 17:21 VanessaE Fixer: this is all I get for "errors" now, http://pastebin.com/fuqjv5cw 17:21 VanessaE Fixer: update your minetest build then 17:21 Fixer VanessaE, it is 095f623 ._. with some PRs included 17:22 VanessaE lemme keep checking. 17:22 Fixer VanessaE, mar 15 build 17:22 Fixer VanessaE, 15 march 2016* build 17:23 DoyleChris i dont have a worldmods folder 17:23 VanessaE DoyleChris: then create it. 17:23 VanessaE Fixer: response code 0 means you couldn't connect at all. 17:23 twoelk VanessaE: seen this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4057&p=204606#p204606 17:23 Fixer VanessaE, but i can download them via browser .___. 17:23 VanessaE I can't do anything about those errors. it works for me. 17:23 Fixer VanessaE, erase your cache and try again 17:24 * VanessaE growls 17:24 VanessaE twoelk: saw it. ask bas080 to fix it. 17:25 VanessaE Fixer: http://pastebin.com/Lijs7ZXW 17:25 twoelk havn't noticed him beeing around lately 17:26 VanessaE Fixer: I just slurped down the entire 39 MB of media in like 20 seconds, that paste is just now. 17:26 VanessaE the problem is on your end now. 17:29 DoyleChris can anybody that runs linux tell me where the server files are installed if i use sudo apt-get install minetest-server 17:30 VanessaE DoyleChris: don't use that 17:30 VanessaE it'll be outdated. 17:31 VanessaE (the files will likely be in /usr/bin and /usr/share ) 17:31 VanessaE CWz: you can correct those permissions now if you want 17:32 DoyleChris so do i need to compile like i did from this link for new version 17:32 DoyleChris http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Compiling_on_GNU.2FLinux 17:32 VanessaE yeah more or less. 17:32 DoyleChris i did but it didnt give me a minetestserver file 17:34 VanessaE well it's not show there, but you probably need -DBUILD_SERVER=1 in your cmake flags 17:34 VanessaE shown* 17:35 VanessaE in any case it's impossible to help you without build logs etc 17:35 CWz VanessaE, i think i manged to do it 17:35 CWz *managed 17:35 VanessaE ok. 17:36 Fixer VanessaE, connected in 7 minutes 17:37 DoyleChris ill try it again 17:37 VanessaE Fixer: I still say it's your firewall or anti-malware tools getting in the way 17:37 VanessaE you're getting outright connection errors now 17:37 VanessaE I can't fix that. 17:38 Fixer VanessaE, guy 17:38 Fixer guh* 17:38 VanessaE look at your log again. 17:38 VanessaE 2016-03-19 19:19:08: ERROR[CurlFetch]: http://minetest.daconcepts.com/server-media/index.mth not found (Couldn't connect to server) (response code 0) 17:39 VanessaE there's no way I can even try to fix that. 17:39 VanessaE code 0 is not a valid http response 17:39 VanessaE and "couldn't connect" tells me you're being blocked somewhere. 17:39 Krock 0 means no response 17:39 Fixer VanessaE, i can download it via browser without problem 17:40 VanessaE Fixer: /msg me your IP please 17:40 VanessaE just need to check if my firewall has you blocked. 17:40 VanessaE (there are only three entries, one of which is a /24) 17:41 VanessaE hm, nope. 17:41 VanessaE didn't think so. 17:42 VanessaE Krock: not according to RFC7231 ? 17:42 DoyleChris so add -dbuild_server=1 to the cmake command 17:43 Krock VanessaE, no, it's just a default status value that must be overwritten with a later function. this didn't happen because it was unable to connect - so it's still at 0 17:45 VanessaE oh ok. 17:45 VanessaE so wtf is causing Fixer's issue? 17:45 VanessaE DoyleChris: no. all caps as I wrote it. 17:45 VanessaE -DBUILD_SERVER=1 17:46 VanessaE but that shouldn't actually be needed at all 17:47 DoyleChris so i add it to this line cmake . -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 -DENABLE_REDIS=1 17:47 VanessaE yeah. 17:48 VanessaE Fixer: check your firewall and anti-malware stuff again. and check your cURL implementation, maybe the one you're using is buggy. something's blocking you somewhere. 17:50 est Fixer, do you use a proxy? 17:50 Fixer no 17:50 Fixer est, maybe firewall is rerouting through smth 17:50 Fixer avast crap 17:51 Fixer i've disabled it 17:51 est its avast? 17:51 est interesting 17:51 DoyleChris now im getting source directory dosent exist 17:51 Fixer still errors, firewall is ok 17:51 DoyleChris when i go to run that command 17:51 Fixer i will try sfans build 17:51 est yeah, minecraft wouldn't have had an error, because its the bigger program 17:51 DoyleChris CMake error 17:52 Fixer est, also CGNAT 17:52 VanessaE wtf is CGNAT 17:52 Fixer carrier grade nat 17:53 VanessaE oh 17:53 VanessaE maybe that's the problem then idk 17:53 Fixer morons, they silently snicked that in, now i can't host anything 17:53 est CGNAT should not be an issue here 17:54 VanessaE if you can reach the files from the browser, and I can fetch the whole media cache via Minetest client in like 20 seconds, with no http errors, it's something in how your MT client interacts with your network stuff. 17:54 VanessaE that's all I got. 17:55 DoyleChris any ideas on the cmake error 17:56 VanessaE DoyleChris: I told you we can't help you without build logs. 17:56 VanessaE just saying there was an error is like saying your car "won't go". 17:57 DoyleChris i deleted the old directory and trying to compile again 17:57 DoyleChris thats where im getting the error 17:57 SmugLeaf that still means nothing 17:58 Fixer VanessaE, tried sfans build, error 0, error 404 :S 17:58 Fixer f-ing 17:58 DoyleChris i am going to reinstall linux and start off scratch 17:59 VanessaE Fixer: then the problem is somewhere else. it's not on my server, I'm sure of it. 17:59 Fixer VanessaE, i will reset my ADSL crap, hang on 17:59 VanessaE est: can you do a quick clear-the-cache-and-let-it-redownload? 18:00 VanessaE and in particular see if you get any similar errors 18:01 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Rui914 -> 03minetest/minetest: Set acceleration only once in falling node 1365c09a9 https://git.io/vaXLG (152016-03-19T17:56:46Z) 18:01 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Mgv7: Limit pseudorandom caves to surface mapchunk or below 13f1aea6b https://git.io/vaXLZ (152016-03-19T17:56:35Z) 18:01 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sofar -> 03minetest/minetest: Allow NodeTimer, ABM and block mgmt interval changes. 13c5c727d https://git.io/vaXLn (152016-03-19T17:56:26Z) 18:01 est VanessaE, where is that cache? 18:01 VanessaE est: on my machine, it is stored in ~/.cache/minetest 18:02 VanessaE (used to be ~/.minetest/cache guess it got moved to comply with linux FHS?) 18:02 est yes 18:02 SmugLeaf VanessaE: halp 18:02 est SN moved it 18:02 VanessaE what's wrong, SmugLeaf 18:03 SmugLeaf what's the password for Weedy 18:03 SmugLeaf or SmugLeaf 18:03 VanessaE no way for me to tell you that, SmugLeaf. 18:03 VanessaE passwords are stored encrypted. 18:03 SmugLeaf I don't even remember what I signed up with 18:03 SmugLeaf can you tell me if a Weedy or SmugLeaf exists 18:04 VanessaE which server/ 18:04 VanessaE ? 18:04 SmugLeaf daconcepts? 18:04 SmugLeaf 30000? 18:04 VanessaE I meant w...yeah 18:04 VanessaE Weedy exists there. 18:04 VanessaE (capital W) 18:04 SmugLeaf the hell password did I use 18:04 Fixer Weedy Builds inc 18:04 VanessaE impossible for me to know, but I can reset it if you want. 18:05 SmugLeaf yeah, do that 18:06 Fixer VanessaE, sometimes error 0 18:06 VanessaE daconcepts => ad-z7441-8.dp.ukrtel.net 1.71Mb 1.80Mb 1.01Mb 18:06 VanessaE seems like you're pulling a decent rate now 18:07 Fixer VanessaE, yes 18:07 VanessaE so it's your network config. something's just generally interfering. 18:07 Fixer VanessaE, rate increased after you fixed nginx 18:07 Fixer VanessaE, no rate was better after fix, but there were still error 0 and sometimes 404 18:07 VanessaE yes, because you're getting most of the files over remote_media, but if you're getting any errors, it's not on my end. 18:08 Fixer VanessaE, and node processing, damn it is slow 18:08 VanessaE yeah, that's normal 18:08 VanessaE that's slow for me, too 18:08 VanessaE the important part is the media. 18:08 Fixer VanessaE, so first connect is like 7 min now, instead of 10+ 18:08 VanessaE clear your cache and try it again. 18:09 est VanessaE, whats the port again 18:09 Fixer VanessaE, why? :S 18:09 VanessaE you should be able to pull it down in less than 3 minutes at your speed. 18:09 VanessaE est: 30000. 18:09 Fixer VanessaE, i'm processing nodesw 18:09 SmugLeaf I also got a fast download 18:09 VanessaE Fixer: I mean the media receiving step, specifically. 18:09 SmugLeaf and VanessaE, WHY DOESN"T MINETEST SUPPORT COPY AND PASTE 18:10 VanessaE SmugLeaf: because irrlicht 18:10 est SmugLeaf, its a problem of irrlicht 18:10 est and linux 18:10 VanessaE even current dev builds don't quite work right for that. 18:10 est it works on windows 18:10 SmugLeaf I typoed that reset password 3 times 18:10 VanessaE (though at least the console works as well regarding copy/paste/highlight as the old command dialog box did) 18:12 est lol 18:12 est got a segfault in the process 18:12 VanessaE heh 18:12 exio4 hai 18:12 VanessaE you got enough RAM? 18:13 Fixer VanessaE, errors 404 :( 18:13 VanessaE wow, someone's hitting the server with ipv6 18:13 Fixer VanessaE, many errors again 18:13 VanessaE and it works (!) 18:13 est VanessaE, probably nt 18:13 est not* 18:13 Fixer VanessaE, dl speed is 8 kb/s 18:13 VanessaE Fixer: I can't help you with that. 18:13 Fixer code 0, code 404 18:14 VanessaE I blame that CGNAT shit 18:14 Fixer many of that 18:14 Fixer fuck them 18:14 est worksforme 18:15 VanessaE works for me too :P 18:15 Fixer there is better new optical internet not far from me, it costs a little more, but i will probably move to it, more speed and probably hope no cgnat shit 18:15 VanessaE exio4: can you try? 18:16 Fixer redisabled avast again 18:17 Fixer crap, same errors, fuck it 18:17 Fixer tired of it 18:17 VanessaE Fixer: re-install your OS, and then complain to your ISP :P 18:17 Fixer VanessaE, why reinstall os? 18:18 VanessaE Fixer: maybe a broken OS. but I was being sarcastic :P 18:20 afflatus DoyleChris: I might be able to help you 18:21 afflatus if you're still there that is ... 18:21 Fixer VanessaE, with cgnat i'm basically unable to host anything :( and most ports are not working 18:23 Fixer I"M MAD 18:23 Fixer time to eat :p 18:23 est dam sorry forgot to stop the time 18:23 est but i measured speeeds over 500 kib / s 18:24 Fixer est, no errors 0/404 in console? 18:24 * CWz thinks about making a mod that tell noobs who type gamemode 1 in chat "You're Winner" 18:25 CWz nah they won't get the reference 18:28 VanessaE est: sounds okay; how fast should it go for you normally? 18:29 est no idea 18:29 VanessaE well what's your pipe? :) 18:29 est 1600 18:30 VanessaE sounds about right then I guess. 18:30 VanessaE mine is a 70 Mbps pipe, I can pull about a third of that with MT. 18:31 VanessaE (I assume the rest is just normal small-file lag) 18:31 est yeah 18:49 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Builtin/game/falling: Re-add comma removed by recent commit 132ce02c9 https://git.io/vaXmA (152016-03-19T18:46:08Z) 18:53 exio4 try what VanessaE 18:53 VanessaE exio4: try a bandwidth test on ve-creative. clear your cache ( ~/.cache/minetest or ~/.minetest/cache ) and launch minetest from a terminal. connect to ve-c, time how long it takes to receive the media, and watch for http errors. 18:54 VanessaE (just the "MEdia" part - don't bother timing the "initializing nodes" part) 18:55 exio4 er, I don't have a new Android build 18:55 VanessaE you're only on android?? 18:55 exio4 my desktop isn't online 18:55 VanessaE oh. 18:57 exio4 I know :( 18:58 Guest03348 hi 18:58 exio4 is a ebook reader worth it? 18:58 exio4 an* 18:58 sfan5 do you read a lot of books? 18:59 exio4 I don't, because space and price 18:59 sfan5 then it's not worth it 19:00 exio4 why not? 19:01 Krock because you won't read many books 19:02 exio4 uf I had one I would read more because it would be cheaper 19:02 exio4 if* 19:02 Fixer i read books on my lenovo yoga, it is awesome for reading, pdf/djvu if you know what i mean 19:02 exio4 but I meant quality wise 19:03 exio4 battery wise, etc 19:04 exio4 laptops are expensive 19:05 exio4 and they suck for long sessions 19:05 exio4 8+ hours reading? your eyes will say nope nope 19:05 sfan5 how about 8 hrs watching porn 19:06 rubenwardy Making an app logo attempt 1: https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/2o8Diyn1.png 19:06 exio4 but, books have that feelin' 19:06 rubenwardy http://pasteboard.co/2o8Diyn1.png 19:06 exio4 so, is the switch to ebooks alright? 19:08 Calinou rubenwardy, looks like a candy tree on the first one 19:08 Calinou also, don't use "long shadow" effect, it's so 2014 :( 19:08 rubenwardy cherry 19:09 rubenwardy that's material design though 19:09 rubenwardy ? 19:09 Calinou no, Material Design does not mandate the use of long shadows 19:09 Calinou http://getmdl.io/components/index.html :) 19:14 Fixer so 2014? lol 19:15 Fixer please give me back my windows classic design from win 2000 and fuck everybody who dislikes it 19:17 VanessaE Fixer: fuck windows, get debian or one of the ubuntu derivatives. 19:17 VanessaE :) 19:17 Fixer easy, clean and simple, now it is hipsters and UI changes everyday without reason 19:17 VanessaE XFCE probably would meet your needs nicely. 19:17 Fixer every release there is fucking UI redesign :( 19:17 DoyleChris Vanessae 19:17 VanessaE yes? 19:18 DoyleChris is there a way to increase the water pump pressure in pipeworks 19:18 Fixer VanessaE, i do lean towards XFCE, but don't like some aspects of it, memory usage is too high, and default panels need some configuring 19:18 Calinou https://lut.im/I3e2h3uuAH/prgDqOJM0w1PGdyj.png 19:18 Calinou this is my desktop 19:19 VanessaE DoyleChris: in the master branch, no, not really. in the new_flow_logic branch, use more pumps. they're additive/linear, so two will fill a pipeline twice as fast as one. 19:19 Calinou I use https://github.com/horst3180/arc-theme and https://github.com/snwh/paper-icon-theme 19:19 VanessaE but no one likes that branch 19:19 VanessaE Fixer: memory usage is high?? 19:19 Calinou this is my Mumble, with MetroMumble dark theme: https://lut.im/Cs35QORtTh/M8DFt9134LzsEXyi.png 19:19 Calinou and my HexChat: https://lut.im/CEmuPSnD1B/4yzGYBeWJg6BbWFl.png 19:19 Fixer VanessaE, well, over 100 mb for such functionality, jeez 19:19 Calinou looks pretty and dark :) 19:19 Calinou great for working at night 19:20 Void7 here is my desktop :) 19:20 Fixer Calinou, if your eyes are ok, my have problems and reads like crap on such backgrounds :( 19:20 Void7 https://lut.im/nLaaSUqTtQ/oU0x4bkE3TmDxSZk.png 19:20 kaadmy :D 19:21 VanessaE Fixer: 100 MB isn't a lot of memory these days. 19:21 Fixer VanessaE, don't say these words 19:22 Fixer VanessaE, or they will use gigabytes soon 19:22 Fixer I have 8 gb of RAM, and FUCK YOU SKYPE (200 mb for a shitty window with few functions in systray is too much) 19:23 Fixer 200 mb for pos 19:23 DoyleChris waiting on my os to reinstall on my pi 19:23 Fixer pfff 19:24 sfan5 Fixer: >skype 19:24 sfan5 >2016 19:24 rubenwardy Fixer, https://www.nngroup.com/articles/flat-design-long-exposure/ 19:24 Fixer VanessaE, after that infamous crap with http-crashing, updated skype 5 to 7, memory usage doubled, fucking assholes 19:24 rubenwardy your ui message reminded me of that 19:24 Calinou Skype::SpyingModule 19:24 Calinou that function is taking a lot of RAM 19:24 * Calinou runs 19:24 VanessaE well that's skype, a microshaft product. 19:25 Fixer rubenwardy, tired of flat, now buttons is text, f-ing hipsters 19:29 Fixer sfan5, what now? viber, tox, etc? 19:29 sfan5 depends 19:29 sfan5 what do you use skype for 19:29 Fixer recently I've needed to register viber 19:29 Fixer so i downloaded PC version 19:29 rubenwardy Facebook has added video chat 19:29 sfan5 isn't viber mainly a phone app? 19:31 Fixer sfan5, but if they provide PC version, why the hell i need to install it on the phone? it has symbian OS anyway, why they don't let me activate it via PC? 19:31 Fixer this is bullshit 19:31 sfan5 >symbian phone 19:31 sfan5 do you like in 2004? 19:31 Fixer sfan5, fathers phone 19:31 sfan5 s/like/live/ 19:31 sfan5 anyway 19:31 Fixer sfan5, good phone 19:31 sfan5 get an android phone 19:31 Fixer sfan5, i have android 2.3 phone 19:32 sfan5 too old 19:32 Fixer nope 19:32 Fixer sfan5, buy me a new one :} 19:32 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:32 Fixer sfan5, it works good, no need to update 19:33 sfan5 did you ever have the need to use a modern app like whatsapp 19:33 Fixer sfan5, camera, calls, sms, internet is all i need, why do i need to spend money again on a same thing, just with newer OS? 19:33 Fixer sfan5, nope, most of the contacts use skype 19:33 sfan5 >calls & sms 19:33 Fixer and it is installed on PC 19:33 sfan5 what is this thing 19:33 sfan5 if that an app 19:33 sfan5 everyone just uses whatsapp (here in germany at least) 19:34 Fixer sfan5, depends on prices of the internet via mobile 19:35 sfan5 very expensive here in germany 19:35 Fixer sfan5, ugh 19:35 sfan5 still everyone uses whatsapp 19:35 Fixer that needs evaluation 19:35 Fixer what costs more 19:35 sfan5 sms 19:36 Fixer sms is pricy 19:36 sfan5 also how you're gonna send videos or images 19:36 Fixer sfan5, via skype 19:36 Fixer sfan5, connect phone to PC -> skype -> whatever 19:37 sfan5 you don't feel the need to communicate while not on your computer? 19:37 Fixer sfan5, nope 19:37 sfan5 wat 19:37 sfan5 how does that work 19:38 sfan5 great 19:38 Fixer sfan5, i only transfer files via flash-drives or skype, end of story 19:38 sfan5 xfce4-panel broke because a window vanished while i was opening the context menu of that window 19:38 sfan5 yeah files 19:38 sfan5 what about pictures 19:38 Fixer sfan5, pictures = files 19:38 sfan5 you don't take any? 19:38 sfan5 i'm aware 19:39 Fixer i have DSLR camera for picture 19:39 Fixer s 19:39 Fixer camera in phone is 2mp crap so I use it rarely 19:40 sfan5 you clearly need a better phone to understand what this is about 19:40 Fixer sfan5, no i don't, i hate sign up to 1000 of services which i will use rarely 19:40 Fixer and it will drain my battery in one day 19:40 sfan5 1000 services? 19:41 sfan5 it's mostly just everyone uses whatapp 19:41 sfan5 some people also use snapchat 19:41 sfan5 and that's it 19:41 Fixer skype, viber, whatsup, facebook, mail, google drive, whatever 19:41 Fixer this is nuts 19:41 Fixer if you need files, send them via mail and don't bother me :} 19:42 sfan5 how are all those related to your phone 19:42 sfan5 you apparently already have them 19:42 Fixer sfan5, btw, is there small android phones still available? or hipsters ruined it again and phones are like big tablets? 19:42 VanessaE we have a smartphone and have only signed up with, I think, two services (including google). works beautifully. 19:42 sfan5 small phones exist yes 19:43 Fixer sfan5, no, i have mail and skype, thats it, problem is that other people have lots of different crap, so i need to sign up everywhere 19:43 Fixer to be really connected 19:43 VanessaE tell those people to go suck eggs. 19:43 Fixer my way is usually fuck you: just send via email 19:43 VanessaE you don't have to sign up with stuff you don't want. 19:43 rubenwardy Calinou, more like this? http://pasteboard.co/2ob6UzFf.png 19:44 Krock where's the oerkki? :( 19:44 Fixer Krock, they are here, at least on ESM 19:44 Krock ESM - ehm sorry what? 19:44 Fixer Krock, oops, you mean on the picture? 19:45 Krock no, I mean the link that leads to a site with a picture 19:45 Fixer Krock, behind the tree 19:45 Fixer :] 19:45 Krock no no, oerkkis are always in the dark 19:46 rubenwardy I started simplifying the logo then stopped, but didn't add the oerkkis back 19:46 rubenwardy Material design likes simple shapes 19:46 rubenwardy but there's no way to do that that I can see without redrawing 19:46 rubenwardy so I decided not to do it 19:46 Fixer also, on a side note, whats up with all this cancer in the MT chats? kids talking about it, wth? 19:47 rubenwardy kids are stupid 19:47 Fixer or they just playing? 19:47 rubenwardy well 19:47 rubenwardy you know what I mean 19:47 Fixer hard to tell 19:47 Fixer things like, i'm 16 and i'm pregnant with twins 19:47 Fixer not sure if troll or real 19:48 Fixer or maybe it is some 40 yr old guy from USA 19:48 Fixer open source developer 19:50 Fixer or worse 19:52 Fixer some guy went nuts, and managed to make this http://storage4.static.itmages.ru/i/15/0630/h_1435625305_6866000_8672613bc0.png 19:53 Fixer that windows 95 feel 19:53 Fixer i wonder if that PCs with 4 mb of ram are still in schools 19:55 rubenwardy I wouldn't have wanted to go to those schools 19:57 Fixer i visited my school not long ago, but everything was closed except my class were i was 10 yrs ago :( 20:06 DoyleChris vanessae what was the command for the server compile 20:10 VanessaE DoyleChris: I build using this script: http://pastebin.com/Di14XAmD 20:10 VanessaE your environment likely will be different since it's a RPi 20:11 DoyleChris its still linux 20:11 VanessaE yeah but it ain't x86. 20:11 VanessaE it's ARM or some such 20:12 VanessaE idk how that works when building something 20:12 DoyleChris I can try 20:14 DoyleChris how do you run the script 20:14 VanessaE you just..um...run it? 20:14 VanessaE but again that script probably will not work for you as-is 20:15 DoyleChris i copied into the terminal and nothing 20:15 VanessaE a script is something you have to save as a file, EDIT IT to your needs, and then run it with ./whatever_you_saved_it_as 20:15 VanessaE e.g. ./build_server.sh or something. 20:21 Fixer lol 20:22 sfan5 i cant remove suggested live streams from my yt suggestions 20:22 sfan5 google pls 20:25 Fixer wat? 20:27 Fixer btw, i've heared google canceled that google+yt thing, wanted to comment in one video, and... it wants to create some profile, wth? 20:27 Fixer i don't want to create a profile 20:27 Fixer want to add simple comment, very rarely 20:28 Calinou rubenwardy, looks nice 20:47 rubenwardy woah 20:48 rubenwardy I just found a page documenting the padding icons should have. I then put rules in inkscape where the padding should be and I already have the right padding! 20:48 rubenwardy like exactly 20:58 rubenwardy Calinou, https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/2og1IeNv.png 21:01 Calinou only 720×1280? :( 21:02 Calinou my phone is 1440×2560 :) 21:03 rubenwardy stfu 21:05 Dragonop lmao 21:08 Swervz Hi is there a way to change the fov in minetest. default is unbearable 21:09 Swervz please 21:10 ssieb Swervz: if you have a dev minetest, it's in the advanced settings. Otherwise you have to edit the config file. 21:10 * ssieb has no idea why it would need to be changed though... 21:11 Swervz A developer version? 21:11 Swervz I have the stable release, do you know what config it is? thanks 21:11 Swervz I cant play a game unless hte fov is around 90 21:12 Calinou Swervz, in Minetest, the FOV is vertical, default is 72 I think. 21:12 Calinou edit your minetest.conf, add: "fov = 80" 21:12 Calinou for higher FOV 21:12 Calinou but 90 is probably too high for most people :) 21:12 Calinou since it's vertical, and not horizontal 21:12 Swervz hmm 21:13 Swervz Wouldnt this work? http://www.rjdown.co.uk/projects/bfbc2/fovcalculator.php 21:13 Swervz I used it to make the fov in arma 2 90 and I think arma uses verticle fov 21:16 Swervz This game is relly nice 21:16 Swervz Minecraft performs so badly becuase of java 21:19 Calinou no: 21:19 Calinou - Minecraft 1.9 performs quite well, it's very optimized 21:19 Calinou - Modern versions of Java are fast. Often 90% as fast as C++ 21:20 Swervz I seem to be getting about 65% more fps in this game than vanilla minecraft 21:20 Calinou some optimizations landed in Minetest recently (VBO), they will be available in 0.4.14 21:20 Swervz nice 21:20 Swervz i really perfer c++ to java to be honest 21:21 Calinou yeah but C++ is quite harder than Java 21:21 Swervz eh 21:22 Swervz I started to learn c++ and it was fun 21:26 Swervz Thanks for that fov setting its alot better now. 21:36 nrzkt can someone test the connection to my server (86.246.185.40 port 30000) please ? i need to do a test 21:42 Fixer okay 21:43 rubenwardy My bank decided to block my payment to play.google.com as being suspicious. I hate being on hold so much 21:44 cat5e can anyone help me port minetest to rust? 21:44 Fixer o_0 21:44 rubenwardy lol 21:44 cat5e C++ sucks 21:45 Fixer nrzkt, started downloaded, downloaded some more, then access denied: could not download 21:45 Fixer nrzkt, now connection timeout 21:45 Fixer cat5e, please port it from irrlicht to ogre 21:45 * Fixer runs 21:46 sofar unreal engine? 21:46 cat5e ??? 21:46 Swervz ogre.. 21:46 nrzkt i cut it :p 21:46 nrzkt Calinou, tested it 21:46 nrzkt thanks Fixer :) 21:47 nrzkt Uhrno 3d 21:47 nrzkt Urho 3d* 21:47 Swervz Don't be knocking ogre now 21:47 Fixer cat5e, fuck the rust, you are starting porting to ogre!11 21:48 sfan5 !up 86.246.185.40 21:48 MinetestBot 86.246.185.40:30000 seems to be down 21:48 Swervz Rigs of rods was made in ogre 21:48 Swervz made with ogre* 21:48 cat5e rust is better than C++ 21:49 sofar completely baseless statement 21:49 cat5e rust is small compared to C++, so you can actually learn it 21:49 sofar there's stuff you can't do in rust, and there's stuff rust does that C++ makes hard to do 21:49 sfan5 what about c and rust 21:49 sofar but swiping statements about programming language are nonsense 21:50 cat5e rust is small compared to C++, so you can actually learn it 21:50 sofar again 21:50 cat5e that makes rust better than C++ 21:50 Swervz Strawman argument 21:50 sofar you're just generalizing 21:50 sofar logical fallacy much? 21:50 Calinou rubenwardy, publish to F-Droid :) 21:51 Calinou and as direct .apk 21:51 * Calinou learned recently that one can download Firefox for Android in .apk form… 21:51 Swervz sofar: Thats what a strawman argument is 21:51 sofar I know 21:51 cat5e Swervz, what do you mean? 21:51 cat5e I only said rust is better than C++ because rust is learnable 21:52 sofar cat5e: ""you're making an unbased claim, therefore you must be stupid"" 21:52 sfan5 Calinou: f-droid is not the solution if you want to publish an app to the "general public" 21:52 Swervz cat5e: "HUUR DURR C++ TOO HARD" 21:52 Calinou yes but such an app doesn't need to be available to the general public, probably 21:52 cat5e Swervz, C++ stdlib is INSANE compared to rust stdlib 21:52 rubenwardy I will publish to F-Droid at a later date 21:52 rubenwardy but not a priority 21:52 nm0i f-droid has in its name what it thinks about "general public" 21:52 rubenwardy maybe tomorrow I will 21:53 cat5e I wish C++ would just deprecate half its stdlib :/ 21:53 Swervz C++ is so nice 21:54 Krock C-- 21:54 Krock C was increased too much today.. had to decrease again 21:54 Calinou C+= 21:54 cat5e rust macros are just as powerful as C++ templates 21:55 Swervz Use asm 21:55 Krock powerful as in "needs much more power to calculate"? 21:55 rubenwardy I feel like cat5e is just here to troll 21:55 cat5e Krock, powerful as in turing-complete 21:55 Krock feed the trolls! It's boring here 21:55 Swervz rubenwardy: obviously 21:55 cat5e rubenwardy, nah I just noticed one of the minetest devs hangs around rust chats and stuff 21:55 Krock we also need global warming because trump has cold in NY 21:55 Fixer cat5e, first port it to ogre3d, than we can talk about rust ._. 21:56 Swervz Use cryengine becuase it looks better /s 21:57 Calinou celeron55 wrote Buildat which is a Minetest-style game using Urho3D 21:57 Calinou it's not being worked on anymore 21:57 Hijiri C-- exists 21:57 Hijiri it's an intermediate language for haskell compilation I think 21:57 Swervz minecraft clone using ogre3d? 21:57 cat5e Fixer, except ogre3d is a C++ engine and rust is a programming language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(programming_language) 21:58 nrzkt cat5e, i presume you are talking about glibc++. Yes bsd libc++ is better :p 21:59 Swervz So can I talk offtopic in here 22:01 Fixer Krock, global warming, mmm, https://41.media.tumblr.com/b3e76c77c47ca0d5e1e57c1e901f528a/tumblr_o3zrtrHltg1v33hszo1_1280.png 22:01 Krock ^^ 22:01 Krock his beautiful hair 22:01 Krock *cough* 22:02 Fixer Krock, also, this one http://40.media.tumblr.com/9b0997f11ae692c8ef5048f85bd64f5a/tumblr_o444acvoPb1v33hszo1_500.jpg 22:03 Krock no ide why but this reminds me to the "let's draw mohammed"-day 22:03 Krock *idea 22:03 Swervz Meanwhile https://i.sli.mg/p6JkHu.png 22:04 Fixer Krock, http://41.media.tumblr.com/db98da01ca19abe3adcc7c8d07d429c1/tumblr_o1wacd3ksL1v33hszo1_1280.jpg 22:04 Swervz Wow thats really high energy 22:05 Krock \o/ image party 22:05 Swervz http://imgur.com/pB7nG5x 22:05 Swervz poor kid 22:06 Krock and now it's bernie's fault 22:08 Swervz https://i.imgur.com/mYrfEq7.jpg 22:09 MinetestBot Wuzzy: 01-15 18:20 UTC is there a way to change the language in the Tutorial subgame/world? 22:11 Wuzzy kaadmy, are u there? 22:11 DoyleChris I am able to run the server but its not happy 22:12 DoyleChris saying system wide share not found 22:12 DoyleChris and when i connect it dosent say that i connected and my connection times out. 22:12 Wuzzy I know the answer to your question, kaadmy, it is “Yes.”. Either change system language or change language variable in minetest.conf. I am not sure which works 22:13 Wuzzy how does MinetestBot work? 22:18 rubenwardy kaadmy, 2016-01-15 22:19 rubenwardy MinetestBot has only recently had !tell fixed 22:19 sfan5 Wuzzy: in short, it doens't 22:21 DoyleChris any idea on the server error 22:26 rubenwardy DoyleChris, did you run sudo make install? 22:26 rubenwardy How did you get Minetest? 22:36 DoyleChris no i used this compile instructions http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Compiling_on_GNU.2FLinux 22:37 DoyleChris now i can join the server after running singleplayer server, but now i still get the system-wide share not found and couldnt find local directory 22:50 DoyleChris just trying to figure out the share problem 23:13 DoyleChris how do you give yourself admin rights on your own server 23:14 swift110 hey all 23:15 DoyleChris anybody 23:16 swift110 DoyleChris: if anyone knows they will answer you 23:18 DoyleChris ok found it did a little digging 23:19 swift110 good to hear 23:19 melzua DoyleChris: in minetest.conf from the server: name = 23:19 swift110 how long have you been playing minetest DoyleChris 23:19 melzua DoyleChris: and the when you log in the game woth this name, grant all 23:19 melzua then* 23:20 DoyleChris last feb 23:23 swift110 thats cool DoyleChris I have played it and I like it quite a bit 23:24 melzua DoyleChris: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L1445 23:41 DoyleChris where is the log file for the server kept 23:42 DoyleChris running a server is so screwed up