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hello everyone |
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Guest35809 |
so what is the funnest thing to do in minetest? |
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Emperor_Genshin |
mobs_redo: hit a shark with no item and see it run away, sometimes flies off of water |
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blert |
Arg! I have built MT... works great on three of my four laptops. On the fourth it only evet loads using OpenGL v1.1! Change it to DX and it still runs OpenGL v1.1, other builds (sfan5, krock) work fine. Any help? |
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MyTeke_ChrisWMas |
LOL.. Genshin.. A Shark is NOT suppose to be afraid of people, what happened? |
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Emperor_Genshin |
MyTeke_ChrisWMas, I really don't know, I didn't make the mod |
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MyTeke_ChrisWMas |
does any other mob does this? Cows, mese monsters or tree monsters |
03:20 |
Emperor_Genshin |
nope |
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Emperor_Genshin |
just sharks |
03:20 |
Emperor_Genshin |
pretty much underwater hostile mobs |
03:20 |
Emperor_Genshin |
in general |
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DFeniks |
i dont know if its truth , but if you punch shark on nose something happens , i forgot what exactly |
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DFeniks |
maybe its on purpose as reference to that |
03:24 |
Emperor_Genshin |
perhaps, but a flying shark is not lol |
03:26 |
DFeniks |
oh , land sharks are old thing in games, i think it should be a meme |
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MyTeke_ChrisWMas |
maybe it is scared of a person, do you have any privs in the sode that can be making it become scary due to a player with a hand vs food? |
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MyTeke_ChrisWMas |
code*** |
03:27 |
* DFeniks |
remembers street sharks |
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Emperor_Genshin |
MyTeke_ChrisWMas, Do I look like I'm TenPlus1 to answer that question? |
03:27 |
MyTeke_ChrisWMas |
lol, Genshin what is your server info maybe someone can help. |
03:28 |
Emperor_Genshin |
That server isn't ready for public release yet |
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DFeniks |
i think next best musical theme after ninja turtles |
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DFeniks |
althought i liked biker mice |
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MyTeke_ChrisWMas |
oh, okay. maybe a dev can help you tweak the shark iq level. this doesn't seem like a wild shark. wild sharks attack back and maybe these sharks are like frogs. do they attack you when near? |
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Emperor_Genshin |
? |
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MyTeke_ChrisWMas |
does a shark attack you when your not looking but you are swiming near.. |
03:33 |
Emperor_Genshin |
no |
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Emperor_Genshin |
perhaps i'm using an outdated version of mobs_redo |
03:34 |
Emperor_Genshin |
but still it's pretty funny though |
03:41 |
sofar |
<announcement> |
03:41 |
sofar |
I'm looking for mod authors to join me in centrally maintaining minetest mods. Inquire within. See github.com/minetest-mods. |
03:41 |
sofar |
</announcement> |
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MyTeke_ChrisWMas |
Awesome. |
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Hijiri |
sofar: why is public domain unacceptable? If I release something into public domain but also then also release it under MIT does that make it acceptable? |
04:49 |
Hijiri |
Is CC-0 acceptable? |
04:51 |
VanessaE |
Hijiri: it is unacceptable because "public domain" means nothing in some locales |
04:51 |
VanessaE |
hence, use WTFPL or CC0 instead |
04:52 |
Hijiri |
alright |
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Emperor_Genshin |
WTFPL :3 |
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Hijiri |
where is mod.conf documented? |
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Hijiri |
I see the fields in the parsing function in the source |
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MyTeke_ChrisWMas |
MIT is Great, though I'd prefer MPL - My Private License. For Pre-Alpha(s). For Public Alpha(s) would be Mozilla Public License. Then for Pre-Beta(s) Apache While Allowing Your Name to remain Glued during Major Development. Then Disallows any Major Tempering, Sales and Then GPL for Post-Betas. |
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everamzah |
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Megaf |
after all these years, do we finally have a good mapper? |
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Megaf |
or an easy way to make a google maps like thing? |
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twoelk |
easy? -> nope ---- good?->depends on the amount of effort you want to invest |
12:14 |
twoelk |
oh, wait - define what you mean by mapper |
12:22 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: you mean like this? https://daconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worldmaps/Survival_World/map.html#22/-96.00000/254.12500 |
12:23 |
VanessaE |
(drag to pan, scroll wheel to zoom, URL reflects your location and can be used to hot-link back to it) |
12:23 |
VanessaE |
this is driven by est31's leaftest project, using Rogier5's minetestmapper fork to make the image data. |
12:26 |
VanessaE |
and it's my understanding that the leaflet generator underlying it all is capable of overlays (e.g. annotations) as well, but I'm not sure how that meshes with the way it's used for minetest maps. |
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Megaf |
VanessaE: like that yep :) |
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VanessaE |
in that case grab est31 when you can and he'll walk you through it |
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VanessaE |
(I couldn't, because I had to kinda muddle my way through. a set of clear steps to recreate, I don't have. :P ) |
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twoelk |
Megaf: do you use a mozilla based web-browser? |
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Megaf |
twoelk: Iceweasel sometimes |
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twoelk |
Megaf: see pm |
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Megaf |
ok |
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John_Tab |
HELLO MY FELLOW MINETESTERS |
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John_Tab |
IVE BEEN PLAYING MINECRAFT FOR SO LONG |
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John_Tab |
~seen Cynthia |
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ShadowBot |
John_Tab: I haven't seen Cynthia in #minetest. |
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Ingar |
he played so hard his caps lock got stuck |
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LOL, WOW.. |
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* Fixer |
pours minetest bugs into the chat |
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Fixer |
and nobody notices |
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* kaadmy |
watches with a blind eye |
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H-H-H |
hey rubenwardy are you around ? |
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ok guess not lol |
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BamBam |
Hello |
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BamBam |
I need help pls |
18:29 |
red-001 |
yes |
18:29 |
red-001 |
what is it? |
18:32 |
BamBam |
I play on minecraft , and i need a plugin , faction , he exist similar mod on minetest ? ( sorry for my bad english ^^ ) |
18:33 |
red-001 |
what does it do? |
18:33 |
BamBam |
Its allows protected territory thanks to chunk 16x16 |
18:34 |
red-001 |
look up areas mod |
18:34 |
red-001 |
on the forum |
18:36 |
BamBam |
I can link it to MySQL ? |
18:37 |
red-001 |
what? |
18:37 |
red-001 |
why? |
18:39 |
BamBam |
Do you know the bond of LUA doc ? (For mod developers as ) |
18:39 |
Calinou |
Minetest worlds are stored either in SQLite, LevelDB or Redis (your choice) |
18:39 |
Calinou |
default being SQLite |
18:39 |
Calinou |
not all builds support LevelDB and Redis |
18:39 |
red-001 |
I think they are asking about areas mod |
18:39 |
red-001 |
and how it stores data |
18:40 |
Calinou |
it stores data in plaintext |
18:42 |
BamBam |
it's java doc for spigot , https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/ , i search similar link for minetest ( for dev a mod ) ? ty for your help :) |
18:42 |
red-001 |
dev.minetest.net |
18:42 |
red-001 |
methods |
18:44 |
BamBam |
ohhhh perfect <3 ty <3<3 |
18:47 |
H-H-H |
any lua modders around feel like taking a peek at something i cant seem to get my head round lol |
18:48 |
BamBam |
Not included is you said sorry |
18:48 |
kaadmy |
H-H-H: what'd you need help with? |
18:48 |
red-001 |
H-H-H what is it? |
18:49 |
H-H-H |
either of you hear of this https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_web_panel |
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BamBam |
You are all English? |
18:50 |
Calinou |
in this channel, we all speak English |
18:51 |
H-H-H |
it expects a file called webpanel.txt in the world folder but i have no idea of the content for it so the mod wont load |
18:52 |
H-H-H |
see https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_web_panel/blob/master/mods/mwcp/init.lua#L49 |
18:53 |
red-001 |
maybe config.cfg.example |
18:53 |
red-001 |
? |
18:54 |
red-001 |
nvm |
18:54 |
H-H-H |
that is for the python server not the minetest mod |
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H-H-H |
brb dog needs a walk lol |
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H-H-H |
so any ideas folks? |
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red-001 |
maybe take a look at the python code? |
19:12 |
H-H-H |
its the lua mod thats needing it no the python stuff |
19:13 |
H-H-H |
the python server is working fine |
19:15 |
red-001 |
you need to create a table in the file |
19:15 |
red-001 |
and add sync_interval = ? to it |
19:16 |
red-001 |
it's a number |
19:16 |
H-H-H |
its the format i couldnt work out:) |
19:17 |
red-001 |
well I think it's just an unnamed table |
19:17 |
red-001 |
like {sync_interval=2,} |
19:17 |
H-H-H |
i will try it and see lol |
19:18 |
red-001 |
or you could just the sync_interval in to the lua code |
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thefamilygrog66 |
howdy folks |
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H-H-H |
but its not just init.lua that uses it as the way i read it , it then sends the value of data to the http.lua file |
19:19 |
red-001 |
that could be a problem |
19:19 |
red-001 |
yeah |
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red-001 |
https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_web_panel/blob/master/mods/mwcp/http.lua#L5 |
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thefamilygrog66 |
damage_groups = {fleshy=x}, |
19:20 |
thefamilygrog66 |
what's the highest value for x? |
19:20 |
red-001 |
6556? |
19:20 |
thefamilygrog66 |
(e.g. diamond sword is 8) |
19:20 |
red-001 |
6556 |
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H-H-H |
i might just wait for rubenwardy to come bk online :) ty for trying tho |
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thefamilygrog66 |
thanks red-001, that's high! |
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H-H-H |
hey rubenwardy you got a min |
19:24 |
rubenwardy |
I'm supposed to be revising |
19:24 |
rubenwardy |
But I guess I could take a min |
19:25 |
H-H-H |
im trying to persuade your webpanel to work and sofar im stumped as to whats sposed to be in world/webpanel.txt for the minetest mod part |
19:25 |
rubenwardy |
minetest_web_panel doesn't really work yey |
19:25 |
rubenwardy |
*yet |
19:25 |
rubenwardy |
the panel will automatically add webpanel.txt |
19:26 |
rubenwardy |
to the world file |
19:26 |
rubenwardy |
you're meant to start the server through the panel |
19:26 |
H-H-H |
hmm then ive messed up somewhere as it didnt for me |
19:27 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_web_panel/blob/master/web_panel/minetest.py#L227 |
19:27 |
H-H-H |
o well a project to play with another day lol ty for answering, i will let you get back to revising :) |
19:27 |
rubenwardy |
It's probably not configured properly |
19:28 |
H-H-H |
ahhhhh now i see ty |
19:28 |
rubenwardy |
You did go though config.cfg.example? |
19:29 |
H-H-H |
although when i run the server and point my browser to localhost:5000 all i get is a 404 |
19:29 |
H-H-H |
yes i set the pathes in config.cfg |
19:29 |
rubenwardy |
You shouldn't get 404... D: |
19:30 |
rubenwardy |
http://localhost:5000/ |
19:30 |
rubenwardy |
? |
19:30 |
Calinou |
Hello everyone please join my server!! 192.168.1.24 |
19:30 |
rubenwardy |
stfu |
19:30 |
rubenwardy |
I was giving him a link to look for on his own computer |
19:30 |
sofar |
lol |
19:30 |
rubenwardy |
:P |
19:31 |
H-H-H |
yep tried that and even the server says 404 |
19:31 |
H-H-H |
Running on http://127.0.0.1:5000/ (Press CTRL+C to quit) |
19:31 |
H-H-H |
server running |
19:31 |
rubenwardy |
what about clicking that link? |
19:32 |
H-H-H |
Not Found |
19:32 |
H-H-H |
The requested URL was not found on the server. If you entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again. |
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H-H-H |
server said |
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H-H-H |
127.0.0.1 - - [06/Jan/2016 19:32:03] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 404 - |
19:33 |
H-H-H |
i prbly screwed a config somewhere lol |
19:33 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
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kaadmy |
H-H-H: you use firefox ;) |
19:37 |
H-H-H |
yeah |
19:38 |
rubenwardy |
I do too |
19:39 |
H-H-H |
this does get run as a seperate app? |
19:44 |
rubenwardy |
The python server runs the Minetest server |
19:45 |
rubenwardy |
when you click "start" or something |
19:45 |
rubenwardy |
you shouldn't start the server yourself |
19:46 |
H-H-H |
yeah thats what i meant so i run the python server and then stop/start etc the minetest server from there |
19:47 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
19:47 |
rubenwardy |
it's possible that I've broken the panel in recent commits, and forgot that I have, but I don't think I have. |
19:50 |
H-H-H |
nope got it working now lol so i must have broke it before but did a clean pull and reconfigured it |
19:50 |
H-H-H |
ty for your time :) |
19:50 |
rubenwardy |
awesome |
19:50 |
rubenwardy |
are you just checking it out, or could you potentially work on it? |
19:51 |
H-H-H |
just looking at moment but i might do a few pr's if i see stuff i can fix/add |
19:52 |
rubenwardy |
It's not as good as I want it |
19:52 |
H-H-H |
now to persuade it to actually start my server lol |
19:53 |
rubenwardy |
It only works on one machine, really it should be possible to maintain multiple ones |
19:53 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
19:53 |
rubenwardy |
rename your world to servertest |
19:53 |
rubenwardy |
or actually |
19:53 |
H-H-H |
or adjust the code |
19:53 |
rubenwardy |
I think it's possible to rename it in "settings" |
19:54 |
H-H-H |
yep lol just found it |
19:54 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
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19:54 |
rubenwardy |
I have too many MT-related projects |
19:54 |
rubenwardy |
Recently I've been trying to do more other things |
19:56 |
H-H-H |
ive been getting more and more into minetest as time has gone by lol |
19:56 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
19:56 |
rubenwardy |
I just feel like my CV is currently way too monotone |
19:57 |
H-H-H |
im permanantl at home due to disability so i dont need to worry about my cv anymore which means more time for pc lol |
19:58 |
rubenwardy |
good for your nerd time, I guess :/ |
19:58 |
rubenwardy |
heh |
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H-H-H |
yep :) |
19:59 |
H-H-H |
thism looks really cool :) |
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rubenwardy |
thanks |
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H-H-H |
i use a lot of your mods in my game :) |
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rubenwardy |
!server Capture the Flag (TESTS |
20:06 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Capture the Flag (TESTSERVER) | minetest.websynthesis.org:30002 | Clients: 1/10, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 11ms |
20:06 |
rubenwardy |
O_o |
20:07 |
rubenwardy |
It's good to have more servers, as mine is full a lot of the time (and laggy) |
20:07 |
H-H-H |
module 'socket.http' not found |
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rubenwardy |
I try to make useful mods H-H-H, but it's hard |
20:07 |
rubenwardy |
Did you run the luarocks command? |
20:07 |
H-H-H |
that is why it aint starting but i know i installed it |
20:08 |
H-H-H |
i will try running it again |
20:09 |
H-H-H |
Updating manifest for /usr/lib/luarocks/rocks-5.3 |
20:09 |
H-H-H |
luasocket 3.0rc1-2 is now built and installed in /usr (license: MIT) |
20:10 |
rubenwardy |
I hatr luarocks. |
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20:12 |
H-H-H |
ok its still saying cant find it |
20:14 |
rubenwardy |
try adding |
20:14 |
rubenwardy |
these lines: https://github.com/rubenwardy/mtpm/blob/master/core.lua#L83-L85 |
20:14 |
rubenwardy |
to here: https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_web_panel/blob/master/mods/mwcp/http.lua#L29 |
20:14 |
H-H-H |
i added it through my package manager |
20:15 |
H-H-H |
working now :D |
20:15 |
rubenwardy |
oh, okay |
20:15 |
H-H-H |
for some reason the luarocks installed the wrong lua.sockets lib (for wrong lua version) |
20:15 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
20:16 |
H-H-H |
ty for your patience and time |
20:16 |
rubenwardy |
welcome |
20:16 |
H-H-H |
now time to experiment and play :D |
20:17 |
H-H-H |
im still undecided if i want to try the irc mod again lol last time i tryed it it wasnt a good experience lol |
20:18 |
H-H-H |
and ive just logged in using the client :) |
20:18 |
rubenwardy |
It took me a while |
20:18 |
rubenwardy |
in terms how long it normally takes |
20:19 |
rubenwardy |
also, the IRC mod doesn't send messages starting with [off] to the IRC channel by default |
20:19 |
H-H-H |
well i built my own linux os from scratchbut lua confuses the crap out of me lol |
20:19 |
rubenwardy |
which is problem if you're moderating swear words |
20:19 |
rubenwardy |
it's a few settings in minetest.conf |
20:19 |
rubenwardy |
you also need to set yourpassword ingame using /setpassword in order to login over irc |
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20:21 |
H-H-H |
this is really nice |
20:21 |
rubenwardy |
what is? |
20:22 |
H-H-H |
the way this interacts with the server |
20:22 |
H-H-H |
i can see me adding allsorts to this |
20:22 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
20:22 |
rubenwardy |
It has potential |
20:22 |
rubenwardy |
the main problem is securing it though: I'm not sure how secure python run.py is |
20:23 |
rubenwardy |
oh, if you're deploying it to a server you should at least set debug to false: https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_web_panel/blob/master/run.py#L4 |
20:23 |
H-H-H |
first thing i think im going to look at is user administration like kicking/banning etc etc |
20:23 |
rubenwardy |
*publicly accessible server |
20:23 |
rubenwardy |
that would be nice, yeah |
20:24 |
rubenwardy |
I'm also planning mod configuration - it should be possible to automatically install and deploy IRC mod |
20:24 |
rubenwardy |
but I'm not working on web_panel atm |
20:24 |
rubenwardy |
so anyone is welcome to try |
20:25 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_web_panel/issues |
20:25 |
H-H-H |
at the moment im running a closed lan setup as in i have minetest/webpanel and the master server running local not net accessable untill i get my head round it all |
20:26 |
red-001 |
rubenwardy |
20:26 |
red-001 |
is there any way to stop spawn killing on your ctf server? |
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20:27 |
red-001 |
it's not fun to keep dying in a loop |
20:27 |
rubenwardy |
does random spawn not help hat? |
20:27 |
red-001 |
when was that added? |
20:28 |
rubenwardy |
recently |
20:28 |
red-001 |
ok |
20:28 |
rubenwardy |
2/3 days |
20:28 |
red-001 |
I haven't played that recently |
20:28 |
rubenwardy |
!title https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/commit/c7c95a757e5ec14da9f8c1121909d915362a1798 |
20:28 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Random spawn locations · rubenwardy/capturetheflagc7c95a7 · GitHub |
20:29 |
H-H-H |
again ty for this and all your other contributions to minetest :) very much apreciated |
20:29 |
rubenwardy |
welcome |
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20:30 |
red-001 |
lol |
20:31 |
red-001 |
trees turn to stone in the barrier |
20:31 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
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20:31 |
rubenwardy |
I actually quite like that effect |
20:32 |
H-H-H |
o i so wish i had some big beefy server to run minetest on lol instead of a 2.8ghz dual core with 2gb ram |
20:32 |
rubenwardy |
I wish I had that |
20:32 |
rubenwardy |
CTF runs on a 1GB ram 1 core server |
20:33 |
sofar |
rubenwardy: hows bandwidth usage on the ctf server? |
20:33 |
rubenwardy |
not sure |
20:33 |
rubenwardy |
one sec |
20:33 |
red-001 |
so thats why mapgene is hanging |
20:33 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
20:34 |
rubenwardy |
has 100Mbps though so... |
20:34 |
red-001 |
whats the point of /abstain command? |
20:34 |
rubenwardy |
to hide the vote window on the right |
20:34 |
sofar |
I'm more interested in how much Mb/Gb it uses per hour/day etc. |
20:34 |
rubenwardy |
it makes it as if you aren't logged in |
20:35 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, sofar, that's what I'm trying to find out rn |
20:35 |
sofar |
ah ok |
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20:35 |
rubenwardy |
Seems to use about 4 Mbps in total. 3 out, 1 in |
20:35 |
rubenwardy |
as in, average |
20:35 |
H-H-H |
i also build for android to |
20:36 |
rubenwardy |
14.4 Gbph |
20:36 |
rubenwardy |
1.8 GB/hr |
20:37 |
sofar |
oh wow that's substantial |
20:37 |
sofar |
1.5tb per month |
20:37 |
rubenwardy |
wait, 3.64 Mbps out, 0.64 Mbps in |
20:38 |
rubenwardy |
to be exact |
20:38 |
sofar |
bit or byte? |
20:38 |
rubenwardy |
there's always 18 players online |
20:38 |
rubenwardy |
b |
20:38 |
rubenwardy |
bit |
20:38 |
rubenwardy |
player count: http://minetest.rubenwardy.com/stats/ |
20:39 |
red-001 |
according to some players you can access chest through the wall between the two teams |
20:39 |
rubenwardy |
really? |
20:40 |
rubenwardy |
oh year |
20:40 |
rubenwardy |
I remember |
20:40 |
rubenwardy |
It's buildable_to=false, either players could use it as scalfolding |
20:40 |
rubenwardy |
*otherwise |
20:40 |
rubenwardy |
but that means the cursor goes through |
20:41 |
rubenwardy |
heh |
20:41 |
rubenwardy |
I'll add it to the todo list |
20:42 |
* H-H-H |
wonders if the current mt client has a proper mod manager |
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red-001 |
H-H-H not really |
20:46 |
H-H-H |
shame i know it used to have |
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Thomas-S |
bye |
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21:01 |
BamBam |
Hi , do you know a mod to improve the pvp ( animations are badly made I think |
21:06 |
kaadmy |
unless you want to make better animations and the code to do it, there's not much to do about it. |
21:08 |
sofar |
better damage sounds would be nice |
21:08 |
sofar |
not just player damage, but hitting sounds |
21:08 |
BamBam |
I will look into this, but we must recognize that this is not easy: P |
21:10 |
kaadmy |
in pixture, you hear a sound when you take any damage |
21:11 |
kaadmy |
maybe i could add a custom animation when you punch a player |
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sofar |
RealBadAngel: ty for joining minetest-mods! |
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22:49 |
Hyrden |
hi |
22:49 |
Emperor_Genshin |
hi |
22:49 |
red-001 |
hi |
22:50 |
sofar |
< channel temporary closed, we seem to have a loop problem > |
22:50 |
red-001 |
hi |
22:50 |
sofar |
ok, try again |
22:51 |
red-001 |
while true then print("hi") end |
23:01 |
rubenwardy |
I wonder how viable a serious player server list would be. Or some way of getting only serious players and discouraging excess noobs. |
23:01 |
red-001 |
not very? |
23:02 |
red-001 |
best to just post on irc or forum |
23:02 |
red-001 |
the server address |
23:02 |
rubenwardy |
I guess it's probably not necessary, as most of them just flock to certain servers |
23:02 |
rubenwardy |
Like CTF and Just Test |
23:02 |
sofar |
rubenwardy: the only way to do that is to reward players who stay online and play more times |
23:02 |
sofar |
so in-game mechanics are key |
23:02 |
rubenwardy |
Get them addicted |
23:02 |
sofar |
reward better builds |
23:03 |
rubenwardy |
I'm subtiley dissing android clients here |
23:03 |
red-001 |
ahh |
23:03 |
sofar |
separate clients by OS? |
23:03 |
sofar |
I wonder if that's possible :) |
23:03 |
rubenwardy |
You can't detect OS using Minetest |
23:03 |
rubenwardy |
only using remote_media |
23:03 |
Amaz |
I wish it were possible to block android clients... |
23:03 |
sofar |
p0f can do it, I'm sure you could do some redirection |
23:04 |
sofar |
have some sort of proxy |
23:05 |
red-001 |
it would also make it possible to send custom gui to them |
23:05 |
red-001 |
sometimes something that looks and works well on pc |
23:05 |
red-001 |
doesn't on mobile |
23:05 |
rubenwardy |
that would be nice too |
23:06 |
rubenwardy |
I would like to see more of a model-view-controller way of making formspecs |
23:06 |
rubenwardy |
But I guess that is actually more of a coding pattern really |
23:08 |
exio4 |
sfan5: are you here |
23:09 |
exio4 |
oh |
23:09 |
Hijiri |
I have noticed most people who go on my magic server don't end up using the magic stuff |
23:09 |
Hijiri |
there is the problem that someone sometimes takes all the stuff from the chest though |
23:09 |
Hijiri |
I haven't gotten to giving everyone the things on join |
23:10 |
red-001 |
if you give players an open chest expect everything to be gone |
23:10 |
red-001 |
fast |
23:10 |
Hijiri |
yeah |
23:11 |
Hijiri |
I need to do something else |
23:11 |
red-001 |
give on join? |
23:11 |
Hijiri |
yeah, that is what I would do I think |
23:11 |
red-001 |
did the api for that get merged? |
23:11 |
Hijiri |
or I could hurry up and add non-creative ways of acquiring arcane power |
23:11 |
sofar |
it's a mod part of default |
23:11 |
Hijiri |
it just gives some steel items though |
23:12 |
Hijiri |
I would probably write a separate mod that gives the players the wand and book or something, to just put on the server |
23:12 |
Hijiri |
or I could get around to adding ways to acquire the stuff non-creatively |
23:12 |
red-001 |
rubenwardy could you consider giving players stone items on join in your game? |
23:13 |
rubenwardy |
no, as they also get items on respawn |
23:13 |
rubenwardy |
Any items given should be cheap |
23:13 |
rubenwardy |
as they could die to get more |
23:13 |
rubenwardy |
or make new accounts to get more |
23:13 |
Hijiri |
Also, I was wondering how much interest there is in a general system like playereffects, except supporting effects stacking/combining in whatever way, and also supporting permanent effects |
23:14 |
Hijiri |
I'm writing a new system right now since I anticipate I will need it for magic stuff |
23:14 |
red-001 |
maybe give them to everyone on round start? |
23:14 |
Hijiri |
This is the API: https://github.com/raymoo/monoidal_effects/blob/master/API.txt |
23:14 |
Hijiri |
I haven't written the code yet though |
23:15 |
Hijiri |
I already have a plan on the implementation however |
23:15 |
Hijiri |
I just wanted to specify it first to keep my code from being unmaintainable shitcode |
23:18 |
Hijiri |
actually I'll make a post in modding discussion |
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