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kaeza |
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DI3HARD139 |
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wilkgr |
Umm.... |
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wilkgr |
In singleplayer, it says "The server is probably running a different version of Minetest" |
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wilkgr |
Exact error: "ServerEnvironment::loadMeta(): EnvArgsEnd not found!" |
| 06:31 |
wilkgr |
Any ideas? |
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wilkgr |
I am not minetest_game here, but my own game |
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wilkgr |
Hmmm....other worlds work...oh well |
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kahrl |
wilkgr: I thought I removed that message about the server when in singleplayer mode, but apparently another dev accidentally reverted that change later |
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kahrl |
wilkgr: for the EnvArgsEnd message, see http://wiki.minetest.net/Troubleshooting#.E2.80.9CServerEnvironment::loadMeta.28.29:_EnvArgsEnd_not_found.E2.80.9D |
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DI3HARD139 |
i know that issue |
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DI3HARD139 |
lemme copy and paste what to add to the a file |
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DI3HARD139 |
add: game_time = 15610596 |
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DI3HARD139 |
time_of_day = 20172 |
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DI3HARD139 |
EnvArgsEnd to the env_meta.txt file in the world's folder |
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DI3HARD139 |
If thats the env error that im thinking of |
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wilkgr |
Sorry, I was afk. |
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wilkgr |
Thanks a lot kahrl and DI3HARD139 |
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wilkgr |
Hey, I just realised. STK karts have Christmas hats. |
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yunfan |
does node's property 'sunlight_propagates = true' means that plant wont propagate on other light source? |
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wilkgr |
yunfan - I think that light goes through |
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Gael-de-Sailly |
Hi |
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RealBadAngel |
hi |
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greeter |
greetings |
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* VanessaE |
peeks in |
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* Krock |
peeks VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
hi. |
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Krock |
hi |
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greeter |
it's a greet party |
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Krock |
yay! |
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* greeter |
greets the greet party |
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greeter |
greetings Obani |
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Obani |
greetings greeter |
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greeter |
what's up? |
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Obani |
Me |
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Obani |
And you ? |
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Krock |
successfully erased a HDD with a 16W loudspeaker magnet |
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greeter |
Krock: that'll often do it |
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greeter |
Obani: not much here, just wiki editing as always it seems lol |
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Obani |
That's great greeter |
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greeter |
i guess lol |
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Calinou |
http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Khronos-Confirms-No-Vulkan |
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sabino |
Hi everyone! I have a PC with Debian, I was install Minetest but it doesn't work, open the window and I can't click. The PC has a oldest Nvidia card and I installed the driver 304xx (nouveau) wich the Debian's documentation recomended, the driver it's ok, but Minetest not yet. Any idea? |
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Calinou |
304.xx is not Nouveau |
| 12:10 |
Calinou |
it's the proprietary NVIDIA driver |
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Calinou |
sabino, try starting it from a terminal, and give us the output through a pastebin |
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sabino |
Ok, I'll try again on monday, this PC it's in my work, but I'm very ancious because I'll use for local server. I installed it by terminal like this https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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sabino |
Other thing... In Debian there's a package called minetest-server. Can I use it for local server? |
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sapier |
http://imgur.com/y9ixW4r http://imgur.com/xYEUIzs http://imgur.com/z4hlJgb (Add support for 3d-model items) |
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Krock |
sapier, that's great! Will MTG get mesh-items then soon? |
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sapier |
considering the comments to the pull request I made I doubt it's gonna be there ever ;-) |
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Krock |
ack. :( |
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ok now the mesh item pull request is complete, it's up to modders to persuade the sceptics to add it ;-) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Flowers/mapgen: Slightly more flowers in mgv5/v7/flat/fractal 8704afe http://git.io/vEew6 (2015-12-19T15:03:10Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default/mapgen: Correct spelling of 'noise threshhold' in 'register ore' c3a1545 http://git.io/vEewi (2015-12-19T15:03:09Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default/mapgen: Re-add grassy sand dune biomes a1b8b68 http://git.io/vEewP (2015-12-19T15:03:09Z) |
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* Krock |
adds some bugs into Fixer |
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* Fixer |
multiplies them |
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* Krock |
builds a firewall to make sure they don't flow into his direction |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi :) |
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Krock |
hi (: |
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Fixer |
hi ._. |
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Krock |
°υ° |
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Fixer |
*_* this is good too |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sapier does.not.have.an.email -> minetest/minetest: Add support for limiting rotation of automatic face movement dir entitys 70ea5d5 http://git.io/vEedy (2015-12-19T17:00:36+01:00) |
| 16:30 |
Krock |
Fixer, the lenny smiley beats them all |
| 16:30 |
AndDT |
@_@ |
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Fixer |
new icewm release |
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luizrpgluiz |
I got an old video card is an Nvidia GeForce2 MX 100/200 32MB AGP |
| 16:33 |
Krock |
Got a similar card too |
| 16:34 |
Krock |
sadly, can't use it anymore - PCI-E slot only |
| 16:36 |
luizrpgluiz |
the minetest 0.4.13 does not close the anything like closing the onboard card, but the game takes to render the map when you walk in singleplayer map |
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luizrpgluiz |
Krock: My computer comes with intel celeron processor old, with 512 of ram |
| 16:45 |
Krock |
luizrpgluiz, that's not a correct english sentence. "My computer comes with an old Intel Celeron CPU and 512 MB RAM." would be better. #grammarnazi |
| 16:47 |
luizrpgluiz |
Krock: i use a google translator,because I only speak Portuguese, Brazil |
| 16:47 |
Krock |
I see |
| 16:48 |
Krock |
But please. Learn some english basics. Google does not do its job well |
| 16:48 |
luizrpgluiz |
Krock: yes ^_^ |
| 16:49 |
luizrpgluiz |
Krock: you know how to generate a structure in minetest using only code in LUA? |
| 16:50 |
Krock |
luizrpgluiz, you would need to load the structure data from somewhere -> external file. An alternative would be to hardcode every node into a table but that's not the best solution |
| 16:51 |
Krock |
I think the best way to do this is: Save a schematic of your structure and add it with minetest's functions |
| 16:52 |
luizrpgluiz |
Krock: for example, has the mod from the ruins in the sub game wasteland |
| 16:53 |
Krock |
https://github.com/BlockMen/Wasteland/blob/master/mods/ruins/init.lua |
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luizrpgluiz |
Krock: Any external program that does not use mod that can create schematic? |
| 16:54 |
Krock |
AFAIK no |
| 16:55 |
luizrpgluiz |
Krock: so how I can create this schematic file? |
| 16:57 |
Krock |
minetest.create_schematic(p1, p2, probability_list, filename, slice_prob_list) @lua_api.txt |
| 16:59 |
Krock |
that function definition sounds quite complicated to me - so many references :/ |
| 17:00 |
Krock |
and IMO useless parameters .. |
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luizrpgluiz |
Krock: shame that this file could be in text mode, because that would be much easier to edit |
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Krock |
huh |
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Fixer |
jeez, so much bullshit comming from MS these days, i have to check every new update for Win7 for any bullshit |
| 17:42 |
Fixer |
coming* |
| 17:42 |
Fixer |
or even cuming** / ** if you know what i mean |
| 17:42 |
Fixer |
i'm sick of this |
| 17:43 |
AndDT |
Thank God that I migrated from XP to Slackware 13.1 years ago |
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Krock |
AndDT, why "thank god"? You could have stayed on XP |
| 17:57 |
Calinou |
XP is unsupported since April 2014 |
| 17:57 |
Calinou |
and, to be frank, nobody should be using it since 2009 (Windows 7 release) |
| 17:57 |
Krock |
Calinou, I talked of those "years", not this year |
| 17:58 |
Krock |
on-topic: http://esfriki.com/f/a6LXLbR_700b.jpg |
| 17:58 |
Krock |
You're right. 7 looks useful too |
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Fixer |
7 is last usable |
| 18:12 |
Fixer |
then it turned to shit |
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Krock |
flush flush |
| 18:19 |
Fixer |
users wanted no metro, that was MS trying to milk more money in some new way, it is not about the user, user does not matter anymore |
| 18:21 |
Fixer |
they just throw new bullshit agenda they make up today to justify update to spend more money on things you don't need |
| 18:22 |
Krock |
The problem is that there must be new things that people want to buy - which isn't easy on that sector |
| 18:22 |
Fixer |
and win 10 forced updates makes me worry... that is 99.9% prediction of big bullshit down the road |
| 18:23 |
Krock |
two sentenctes two times bullshit :D |
| 18:24 |
Fixer |
BOX version is already pretty rare and their only hope is OEM |
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Fixer |
buying new PC from OEM? prepare for MS + vendor bullshit |
| 18:24 |
Krock |
It's a pain that there are no new, raw PCs without any OS :< |
| 18:25 |
Fixer |
OEM win is cheap anyway |
| 18:26 |
Fixer |
just erase it and install whatever you want |
| 18:26 |
Fixer |
potential problem is secure boot BS, that can be used against Windows competitors |
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Fixer |
at least we have linux/bsd/unix/minix distros and different platforms, you will not get gaming PC with that but at least it will be out of BS touch mostly |
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Fixer |
and OSS already has nice playable games for a long time |
| 18:29 |
Fixer |
including classics |
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* Krock |
inserts ReactOS in the list |
| 18:29 |
Fixer |
ok |
| 18:30 |
Calinou |
Windows was never about the user… |
| 18:30 |
Fixer |
about milking user's money |
| 18:30 |
Calinou |
>implying users buy Windows anyway |
| 18:30 |
Krock |
^ |
| 18:31 |
Fixer |
anyway, 7 is last tolerable version |
| 18:31 |
Fixer |
and has its faults too |
| 18:31 |
Fixer |
but XP has bigger security problem and needs power user to handle |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
people should upgrade from Windows anyway |
| 18:32 |
Fixer |
flash drive viruses are common |
| 18:32 |
Fixer |
Calinou, agree |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
my desktop PC is full Fedora 23 |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
my laptop isn't, it runs Windows 10, because university forces us to use Adobe and Office… |
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Fixer |
linux distros are desktop ready, and 80% gaming ready imho |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
they were ready for years, it's just that people never admit it |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
there were FLOSS games in 2007 too |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
and computing in general (not only GNU/Linux) was much more buggy and unstable in 2007 too |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
even Windows crashed quite a bit back then |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
now it's almost perfectly stable |
| 18:34 |
Fixer |
now OSS has huge software library that runs everywhere, without bullshit attached (systemd excluded :trollface:) |
| 18:35 |
Fixer |
Linux based PC is good for any nonhardcore gamer place |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
my parents use LibreOffice |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
Calinou, *tips fedora* ;^) |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
but they use InDesign and Photoshop… |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
:( |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
they also use some proprietary accounting software |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
that runs only on Windows |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
Calinou, TurboTax? ;) |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
if not for that, they could run GNU/Linux |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
nope, Ciel |
| 18:35 |
Fixer |
Calinou, 95% does not need InDesign and Photoshop |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
ah |
| 18:36 |
Fixer |
Calinou, or even 9% |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
Fixer, GIMP, Inkscape and a generous dollop of Blender |
| 18:36 |
Fixer |
99% |
| 18:36 |
Fixer |
* |
| 18:36 |
Fixer |
Jordach, yes, that is good enough, average user uses paint-level programs :} |
| 18:38 |
Fixer |
you can argue about business PC, but on home desktop it is ready, on gaming front it is much better, gamers will prefer Win, but other can stick with Linux and be happy, Firefox+Libreoffice+Gimp+Mail, what else do you need? 20years that costed >1000USD just for OS |
| 18:38 |
Fixer |
years ago* |
| 18:38 |
Jordach |
Fixer, actually, i had issues with GPU rendering under Linux |
| 18:38 |
Fixer |
depends on videocard and drivers |
| 18:38 |
Fixer |
it is better these days |
| 18:39 |
Fixer |
people just use Win because they are used to it, that's why I'm using it, but debian/fedora/whatever is good for me too, people don't like to switch |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
Fixer, yeah but people think they need it |
| 18:40 |
AndDT |
Calinou: university forces me to use windows too. Mathcad 14 + Matlab 6.5 + Simulink |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
sucks :( |
| 18:41 |
AndDT |
So I installed VirtualBox 4.3 with w2k |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
why w2k |
| 18:41 |
AndDT |
my most favourite windows after 3.11 |
| 18:41 |
Fixer |
it is fast and no BS attached |
| 18:41 |
Fixer |
takes few space |
| 18:41 |
AndDT |
because 2k is enough to run those apps |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
Windows 10 is pretty decent, just use https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking |
| 18:42 |
Fixer |
Calinou, nah, it is much slower than 2000/XP and needs more memory |
| 18:42 |
AndDT |
And I gzipped 2k image, it took only ~360 Mb |
| 18:42 |
Fixer |
i have nonzipped streamlined XP + tank game for Virtualbox, Win is 200MB, game is 300 :} |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
Fixer, it does need more RAM for sure |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
but it looks better, can do more |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
I can't stand XP looks |
| 18:43 |
Fixer |
use classic theme for XP |
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Calinou |
classic theme is even worse |
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Fixer |
Win10 has more security protection, but that's can be done in XP |
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Jordach |
Fixer, is that tank game Pocket Tanks by chance> |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
(it runs fine in WINE) |
| 18:44 |
Fixer |
Jordach, nah, it is Steel Beasts |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
ah |
| 18:44 |
Fixer |
will not run on anything after XP :( WINE can't run it iirc |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
I had a Monopoly game that didn't run on XP |
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Calinou |
when I was a kid |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
it ran on 98/2000 |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
I think compatibility mode made it work |
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Calinou |
88 stars! https://github.com/Calinou/awesome-gamedev |
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Calinou |
this is my most starred project :) |
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exio4 |
you are a github rockstar, congrantz |
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exio4 |
congratz* |
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Krock |
JohnnyComeL8ly, you're late. |
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Fixer |
i've searched thgough freesounds for some wind sounds for minetest, I think there are few nice ones :} |
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ajaypay |
Are there zombies in Minetest 0.4.13? |
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Jordach |
ajaypay, no - you'd have to add them via the simple mobs mod |
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ajaypay |
For some reason I have zombies, and I don't know what mod it's from. |
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ajaypay |
They look like these headless guys in all white. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Krock, that is a bunch of yourself. |
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Fixer |
this is pretty neat for background sound for MT -> http://www.freesound.org/people/wescwave/sounds/170017/ |
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ajaypay |
Do you have an idea of what they're from? |
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Krock |
ajaypay, punch it and look in the console/terminal what happened |
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Krock |
I think it should show the mob name there |
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ajaypay |
I've done that before, but I couldn't find it. |
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ajaypay |
But I found out what it was ;) |
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ajaypay |
It's the mob from the NPCF_NG mod. |
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Krock |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7321&hilit=npcf_ng&start=100 |
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Krock |
from the npcf |
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LandMine |
Wassssssaaaaaaaa! |
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Krock |
-bi. |
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Krock |
LandMine, are there any dumb people ingame who would walk on you? |
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* Calinou |
steps on LandMine |
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* Krock |
sees Calinou in the flames |
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LandMine |
Lol |
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RedNifre |
heya |
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RealBadAngel |
plants with waving: https://youtu.be/L_Az4mEQEtI |
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Fixer |
we need landmines for MT |
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Fixer |
RealBadAngel, interesting, could it be slower? feels too fast |
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RealBadAngel |
Fixer, this is exactly the same speed as we do have now |
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Fixer |
are there any big time programs in GTK3 ported to windows? I wonder how they look |
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Calinou |
"GTK+ 3 on Windows? Haha! What now? Engineers that give ammo crates?" |
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Fixer |
is it even viable option on *nix? |
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Fixer |
for a new program |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Im running 0.4.9 in Linux Mint 17.3. I just discovered that I can download VanessaE Dreambuilder game and get just about every mod I want all in one download which is freaking cool. How do I use it? I tried placing it in the mods folder and it fails to work Im guessing its thw wrong folder location or wrong version of minetest. What am I doing wrong? |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
I know how to rename mods and use them successfully already. But never messed with these minetest "games". |
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Fixer |
place it in /games |
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Fixer |
Dreambuilder folder in /games |
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Fixer |
also, there is MT 0.4.13 available, you are using old version |
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Fixer |
Sokomine, hi, you here? |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Fixer: Is 0.4.13 safe to use? I used it before for the server in my house. But the world got corrupted. Im having to start over again because of it. |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Is it safe? |
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VanessaE |
use a development build |
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Fixer |
sure, why not, practically everyone uses it, i'm not sure why the world got corrupted |
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VanessaE |
0.4.13 is olllld |
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Fixer |
lol |
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VanessaE |
you updated more than 5 mins ago? you're out of date! :) |
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VanessaE |
(really though, dreambuilder needs 0.4.12 at least, maybe even 0.4.13, I forget. use a development build from the forums, in any case.) |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
ok thanks guys |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
VanessaE: Your a minetest goddess! You do great work, your awesome! |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
;) |
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hmmmm |
what about her minetest goddess? |
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VanessaE |
nah |
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VanessaE |
I just try to keep things working |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
So on the website I should download under GNU/Linux-----Packages (daily, unstable)? Thats what I used before. That the one? |
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VanessaE |
yeah, that'll get you the latest |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
ok cool |
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VanessaE |
it's not usually "unstable" though. that just means things are actively being developed. |
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VanessaE |
you can also roll your own if you want |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
VanessaE: How do you usually backup your worlds on your servers? I have a mini itx box running NAS4Free with a virtualbox of Linux Mint 17 on it thats running the minetest server. How are your servers configured? In virtual machines? Do you backup automatically or manually? I want to avoid a world corruption or loss. |
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VanessaE |
mine all run "bare", and I do backups with a script that runs from cron |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
ok |
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VanessaE |
those backups go to a second drive in the machine, and also to an FTP server |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
ok |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
VanessaE: Whats your server OS that you run them all on? Just curious. |
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VanessaE |
Debian 8 |
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VanessaE |
the whole setup runs on one of these, https://www.soyoustart.com/us/offers/e3-sat-3.xml |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
VanessaE: I was going to use Debian also originally cause it would be much faster than running minetest in a vbox machine, cause my mini itx server is just an Atom 1.86Ghz dual core machine. Did it take a long time to configure the whole server? Only reason I tried NAS4Free was to get up and running quickly. Its nice with all service out of the box and a nice web gui for everything. |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
I should have bought a faster motherboard/CPU looking back now. |
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VanessaE |
configuring the OS wasn't difficult, about the same as any other linux install I've done over the years; hell most of it was already done for me by way of OVH using an install image to get the machine going. |
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VanessaE |
the time consuming part was all the scripts I use to manage everything |
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VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/Server-scripts/ |
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VanessaE |
it took a while to write and re-write them and they're still pretty primitive. |
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VanessaE |
but that aside, getting the OS to the point where it could run Minetest was trivial |
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jomat |
Is there snow in dreambuilder? |
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VanessaE |
no |
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VanessaE |
but that can be added with a mod |
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VanessaE |
DB is mostly compatible with regular MT mods, probably one or two exceptions |
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VanessaE |
LinuxGuy2020: I also made a point to develop a decent statistics tracking setup, |
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VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats-daily.html |
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VanessaE |
(some of the management scripts in the previous link are used to fill out and draw that ^^^ by way of rrdtool and friends) |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
ok Ill have a look there. |
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jomat |
Oh thats why we didnt find any, thx :-) |
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VanessaE |
there are about 5 more servers running on the box that are not shown on that graph |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
VanessaE: Do you run it headless? With or without a desktop environment? SSH everthing etc? |
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VanessaE |
(at least in the player counts; I need to update my scripts to be able to track servers that aren't running from /home/minetest) |
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VanessaE |
that's headless yeah. it's a server in one of OVH's Canada datacenters. |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
VanessaE: Do you VNC or SSH to it? Im just trying to get an idea of how to set mine up if you dont mind sharing. |
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VanessaE |
ssh |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
ok |
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VanessaE |
with scp and rsync access to keep my files up-to-date |
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VanessaE |
(I cache everything on my home PC first, then upload when I'm ready) |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
ok |
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Inocudom |
I think it would be a good idea to create a new topic in the Minetest forums telling people that if they are not happy with Minetest in its current state, then they won't ever be happy. |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
VanessaE: Do you know if there is a way to run a MT server from one of my desktops or laptops, but use the world, game, mods, from files located on my NAS box over FTP or something? That would be much faster than it running on a virtualbox session on the NAS itself.' |
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Inocudom |
People often forget that the developers are hobbyist with jobs, families, other interests, and (in the case of these days) trials that affect their very survival. They are not slaves. Let me repeat that. The developers are not slaves. That goes for custom content makers as well. |
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VanessaE |
LinuxGuy2020: you can do that with a redis-based world I think |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
VanessaE: Any idea where I can read about that by chance? |
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VanessaE |
unfortunately I don't have a pointed for you on that. |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
ok |
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VanessaE |
pointer* |
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Inocudom |
And, in a world that is getting uglier and uglier faster and faster (which should be blatantly obvious by now,) working on open source projects and making custom content will get harder and harder. |
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VanessaE |
Inocudom: stop |
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VanessaE |
don't bring that negativity in here. we have enough as it is. |
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Inocudom |
I can see the negativity in the Minetest community, but that is simply a by-product of the world as it is. |
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VanessaE |
dude, I'm serious. don't make me kick you out. |
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sapier |
negatuvity? are you serious? I'd never have noticed anything like that *smile* |
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VanessaE |
sapier: well considering you were AWOL for the better part of a year..... :) |
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sapier |
sorry forgot the <ironic></ironic> tags ;-P |
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VanessaE |
hehe |
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jomat |
LinuxGuy2020: Why do you want that? Can't you store the map/mods/.. on your notebook? |
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Evidlo |
Would it be a good idea to make 'minetest_game' a submodule of the main git repo? |
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VanessaE |
Evidlo: no. everyone hates submodules :P |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
jomat: multiple machines on a home network that play together. I have a NAS and it would store the world on a ZFS mirror. |
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Evidlo |
I don't hate submodules |
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Inocudom |
A certain mod known as streets uses submodules. It is pretty hard to download because of that. |
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Evidlo |
What makes it so hard? |
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sapier |
everyone doesn't want to be everyone too ;-) |
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sapier |
well submodules aren't used very often because for all situations where you'd need submodules git's implementation ain't enough ... and if you have to write your scripts around it anyway you just don't need submodules any longer |
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sapier |
isn't enough |
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Evidlo |
Isn't a submodule identical to cloning a repo inside a repo? |
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Evidlo |
Just automatic? |
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sapier |
nope it ain't |
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sapier |
but it's quite similar true |
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Inocudom |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13756 |
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sapier |
a submodule is connected to the original repository |
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Inocudom |
This guy is starting off well in his modding hobby. Send some kind words to him. |
| 23:56 |
sapier |
e.g. if you clone a clone with submodules in it it's cloning from the original source of submodules not from the clone you're cloning all the other things from |
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Evidlo |
what |
