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rubenwardy |
I banned a user called bodil40, and a user called boldil40 joins. Reason to ban? |
| 00:05 |
rubenwardy |
or coincidence |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
ban evasion |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
use xban2 in the future |
| 00:08 |
rubenwardy |
I do use xban2 |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
strange. it should have caught that. |
| 00:09 |
rubenwardy |
I just changed worlds, but I made sure to copy ip* and xban.db |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
(unless that user's IP address changed at the same time) |
| 00:10 |
rubenwardy |
oh |
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rubenwardy |
I forgot to copy world.mt |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
oops :) |
| 00:10 |
rubenwardy |
with all the activated mods |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
so I repeat.... use xban2 in the future :D |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
by the way, |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
do you get errors like this from time to time? |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
2015-12-01 19:08:44: WARNING[Server]: [xban] Unable to save database: Write failed |
| 00:11 |
swift110 |
hey all |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
hi swift |
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rubenwardy |
no, VanessaE |
| 00:15 |
rubenwardy |
no results from grep -n "Unable to save database: Write failed" .minetest/log*/alldebug.txt |
| 00:16 |
swift110 |
how are you VanessaE |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
Odd. I get those errors frequently.. I can't see a reason for them, either. There's plenty of disk space, plenty of space in /run, permissions and ownership are correct, and the ban database file is only 4.4 MB. |
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rubenwardy |
I use /home/some-username/.minetest to host it |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
(for the server whose log I got the errors from) |
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rubenwardy |
where some-username is only for MT and the remote_media server |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-xban2/issues/5 |
| 00:18 |
rubenwardy |
have you updated since then? |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
nope |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
I'll do that now. |
| 00:27 |
rubenwardy |
Whats a SqueakCrafter name |
| 00:29 |
VanessaE |
idk |
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LazyJ |
rubenwardy, "SqueakCrafter" seems to be the default name of another Minetest app. I've blocked those and the most recent variant to show up in my logs is "Player01"...or 02,03, etc. |
| 01:23 |
rubenwardy |
ok |
| 01:23 |
rubenwardy |
I've blocked Player* but not SqueakCrafter* |
| 01:24 |
LazyJ |
My server isn't tuned for small devices so most of the app users plug-up the line because they time out or don't know how to use their app. |
| 01:25 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
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rubenwardy |
LazyJ, most players tend to be on phones/tablets/iPods. Such a shame, but they enjoy it I guess |
| 01:41 |
LazyJ |
rubenwardy, Aye. Its one thing if they can enjoy playing the game but too many of them either make pests of themselves or whine that they can't do things (because it doesn't all fit on their small screens). |
| 01:41 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 01:41 |
rubenwardy |
I agree that for serious servers they're not suited |
| 01:42 |
rubenwardy |
Did you see the stats I posted? So many illegal iOS clients |
| 01:43 |
LazyJ |
It becomes frustrating for both sides when the grown-ups try to explain that the phone/tablet isn't big enough when the app-kids are led to believe that the small devices can do it all. |
| 01:44 |
LazyJ |
No. I hadn't seen the stats. |
| 01:44 |
LazyJ |
But, not surprising either. |
| 01:44 |
LazyJ |
"Serious" server.... or a server for old farts. ;)- |
| 01:46 |
rubenwardy |
I'd like to make a City vs City server |
| 01:47 |
rubenwardy |
a long term server where factors make castles and fend off attackers |
| 01:47 |
rubenwardy |
but I don't think it would be possible given the current server community |
| 01:48 |
rubenwardy |
it's more suitable to an MMO setting, really |
| 01:48 |
rubenwardy |
The problem is that players come to minetest for to play Minecraft, not to play other drastically different game modes |
| 01:49 |
rubenwardy |
LazyJ, these are the stats: https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/671711060093743104 |
| 01:49 |
rubenwardy |
I'll post again in a few days with more accurate stats (more samples) |
| 01:49 |
LazyJ |
Ok, thanks for the link. |
| 01:49 |
rubenwardy |
but, additionally only 33% of clients are up-to-date with normal version strings |
| 01:50 |
LazyJ |
Perhaps if there were more... defined?? servers. |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
time to start requiring strict version checking |
| 01:50 |
rubenwardy |
if all servers required it, then mobile clients would may update |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
once 0.4.14 goes out, I'l gonna set that option |
| 01:51 |
rubenwardy |
but if just one requires it, then they won't get players |
| 01:51 |
LazyJ |
I prefer to build and landscape while others prefer engineering contraptions and the more spirited prefer PvP. |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: unless that one happens to be particularly popular. |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
imagine if 'just test' did that |
| 01:51 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
or skyblockl |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
-l |
| 01:52 |
LazyJ |
Heh... Suppose the app-kids would be offended if there were a "Minetest Kiddie DayCare Center" for them. ;)- |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
haha |
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rubenwardy |
just |
| 01:52 |
rubenwardy |
so much dating and swearing :( |
| 01:52 |
LazyJ |
Mehh... I'm just a cranky curmudgeon. Bah-humbug! |
| 01:53 |
rubenwardy |
someone said "You're not an admin, you're a bitch" today |
| 01:53 |
LazyJ |
That would be a ban on my server. |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
LazyJ: that's not for more than three weeks :) |
| 01:53 |
rubenwardy |
no respect for their elders, honestly |
| 01:53 |
rubenwardy |
I did ban, year |
| 01:53 |
LazyJ |
I don't bother with timed-bans anymore. |
| 01:53 |
rubenwardy |
temp-ban though, I don't like permban |
| 01:53 |
rubenwardy |
* yeah |
| 01:53 |
LazyJ |
Most of them never learn. |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: was that user by chance named "Dion" or something like that? |
| 01:53 |
rubenwardy |
1 week |
| 01:54 |
LazyJ |
I figure there are more MT servers out there for them to go to. |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
no, strike that. Demi, not Dion. |
| 01:54 |
rubenwardy |
katrun |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 01:54 |
LazyJ |
The few that protest the ban, I tell to search for another server, abide by their rules and strive to become a member of good standing in their community. |
| 01:54 |
rubenwardy |
no more ctf servers, though |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
I had a user by the name "Demi" try to pull the same routine with me, just with less-strong language |
| 01:55 |
rubenwardy |
what I said, just more childish |
| 01:56 |
rubenwardy |
that's gonna look weird in the logs, I did an [off] there |
| 01:56 |
LazyJ |
I'm hoping this is all just growing pains of Minetest becoming more well known. |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
don't be afraid to let idiots find their way into the log. :P |
| 01:58 |
LazyJ |
I don't know how, but many times I wish I could drive it into their heads that they are allowed to play for free on a server that someone else has to work hard and pay for. |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
ikr. |
| 01:58 |
rubenwardy |
exactly, I agree |
| 01:58 |
rubenwardy |
I have so much on my todo |
| 01:58 |
rubenwardy |
for the server |
| 01:58 |
rubenwardy |
let alone for university work and other projects |
| 01:59 |
LazyJ |
My ToDo list is a mountain now. |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
and I literally just re-upped my server last night, for 6 months |
| 01:59 |
LazyJ |
Of course, I might get more things on my list done if I stopped *playing* Minetest. |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
my TODO is dwindling, and I've been making a point not to add stuff to it :P |
| 01:59 |
rubenwardy |
Your servers seem to not have any players on anymore |
| 01:59 |
rubenwardy |
shame |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
I know. |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats-monthly.html |
| 02:00 |
rubenwardy |
Just test is hogging |
| 02:00 |
LazyJ |
I'm still looking for a different hosting service. |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
well "just test" isn't even in the public list anymore |
| 02:00 |
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| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
Xanadu and Skyblock have been jockeying for the top slot lately. |
| 02:00 |
rubenwardy |
monthly is the best view on those stats |
| 02:00 |
LazyJ |
Most of the contact I've had with the current "tech support", each agent asks for a photo copy of my signature and photo copies of both sides of my credit card. |
| 02:00 |
rubenwardy |
how do you generate them, btw? |
| 02:00 |
LazyJ |
Giant. Red. Flag. |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/Server-scripts |
| 02:01 |
rubenwardy |
ah |
| 02:01 |
rubenwardy |
all in there? :O |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
update-statistics.sh is called once a minute |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
generate-statistics-graphs.sh every 5 |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
watchlogs.sh scrapes the logs for player counts |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
and calls update-statistics-playercounts.sh |
| 02:02 |
LazyJ |
I gave up trying to drive up the quantities of players on my server. I would much rather have "quality" players, as in calm, mature, boring, no fights, boring, civil, boring, grownups. |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
(continuous loop) |
| 02:02 |
LazyJ |
Ok, rant off. |
| 02:02 |
LazyJ |
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| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
note to self: clean up that folder. |
| 02:02 |
rubenwardy |
With CTF, you need 6+ players at anytime to have fun |
| 02:03 |
rubenwardy |
but they need to be good players |
| 02:03 |
rubenwardy |
On a slightly unrelated note, having a limited sized map makes hosting easy in terms of resources - Only a limited number of chunks are loaded at any particular time, and I can use mysqlite_synchronous = 0 as it doesn't matter if the map is corrupted. |
| 02:03 |
rubenwardy |
A traditional server would be a lot harder, I imagine |
| 02:03 |
rubenwardy |
it's good, because lag in PvP is bad |
| 02:04 |
asl97 |
rubenwardy: there should be a time limit for holding the flag, there was some player that just doesn't bring the flag back to base |
| 02:04 |
rubenwardy |
But yes, I'd rather have 6 good players than 18/20 bad players. |
| 02:04 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, that's next on my todo |
| 02:04 |
rubenwardy |
writing my essay rn. Well, "multitasking" |
| 02:05 |
LazyJ |
Minetest, itself, just doesn't have the reaction time to make battle much fun. Swing, click 1000 times, swing, click 1000 times... repeat. |
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rubenwardy |
It's definitely a problem. Guns at long range makes it better. Shooter is pretty reliable |
| 02:05 |
rubenwardy |
not perfect, but works 9/10 times |
| 02:06 |
rubenwardy |
and it has great visual feedback |
| 02:06 |
rubenwardy |
but yeah, swords etc are flawed |
| 02:06 |
rubenwardy |
the whole pointing away and pointing back to hit again |
| 02:06 |
rubenwardy |
not having visual feedback of time-outs is bad (ie: min interval before striking or firing) |
| 02:07 |
rubenwardy |
or audio |
| 02:07 |
rubenwardy |
but yeah. </rant> |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
there, cleaned up. |
| 02:08 |
rubenwardy |
I must admit, I nicked your runserver.sh |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
you're welcome to it |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
you'll need the misc-functions.sh file also |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
many of those scripts 'include' that file |
| 02:09 |
rubenwardy |
What seems to happen with my server, is that when I restart the server goes down to 3/4 player count. Then after about 20 hours it's up to 14-18, at which point I need to restart the server for updates |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
runserver.sh has since been superseded by a call to one of the functions in misc-functions.sh though. |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
for server updates, I usually just rely on some of the code in backup-server.sh |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
see, I stage everything with an uploader script on my PC, |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
then when the backup script runs, it calls update-worldmods.sh as well |
| 02:10 |
rubenwardy |
oh, you've made new scripts |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
deploying whatever was staged, while the server is down |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
yeah, I rewrote several of them a few weeks ago to make everything more scalable |
| 02:11 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, I have a folder on my PC that logs in and does common activities such as updating ctf, updating mt, and restarting. |
| 02:11 |
rubenwardy |
*folder of scripts on my PC that logs in via ssh |
| 02:12 |
rubenwardy |
for example: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/a0ca2abd7a25d910f92e |
| 02:12 |
rubenwardy |
WTFPL |
| 02:13 |
rubenwardy |
I also have a script to optimise all the settings out of lua mods: https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/blob/master/build.sh |
| 02:13 |
rubenwardy |
well, ctf.setting(name) settings |
| 02:13 |
rubenwardy |
works like #define name value |
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rubenwardy |
RIP Just Test |
| 02:25 |
thePalindrome |
I should consider hosting a smallish server sometime |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
rot in pieces? |
| 02:26 |
thePalindrome |
maybe once I get some reasonable progress finished -.- |
| 02:26 |
rubenwardy |
lel |
| 02:26 |
zat |
hey someone consider making a mod like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCsn8QaiUzA |
| 02:26 |
asl97 |
VanessaE: i notice on your survival server, the public spawn nuclear center no longer has machine |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
griefed. |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
and I couldn't restore them |
| 02:27 |
thePalindrome |
zat: nop.jpg |
| 02:27 |
rubenwardy |
people play it because <####> i think its really fun |
| 02:28 |
rubenwardy |
I guess because it's popular |
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zat |
thePalindrome: 77 |
| 02:28 |
rubenwardy |
I find it funny that the server owner is called "lag" |
| 02:29 |
rubenwardy |
zat, I considered, and I decided that I won't |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgv5/v7/flat/fractal: More large pseudorandom caves e51ea66 http://git.io/vRfVE (2015-12-02T02:19:52Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] thePalindrome -> minetest/minetest: Add on_secondary_use when right clicking an item in the air 97908cc http://git.io/vRfVu (2015-12-02T02:18:44Z) |
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zat |
rubenwardy: I bet you were too distracted to see the yes that was there |
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rubenwardy |
I wish there was a way to maintain your average players on restart :( |
| 02:39 |
rubenwardy |
I think that an hour is too long if it's a shutdown for maintainence, and the average players isn't kept |
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VanessaE |
my G*d worldedit has gotten pitifully slow :( |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
and my Creative server is an absolute dog now as well |
| 02:59 |
LazyJ |
I'm really hoping the lag issues are just a bug in MT 0.4.13. |
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kaeza |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy International Day for the Abolition of Slavery! 😃 |
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Glorfindel |
is there a way to install both the main minetest and the dev, but have them separate? |
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Glorfindel |
so I can run both at the same time, not keep the worlds and stuff separate |
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rubenwardy |
Glorfindel: don't install |
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rubenwardy |
Linux I guess? |
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rubenwardy |
I'd recommend making them run in place, so it doesn't get the worlds/mods/games from .minetest |
| 15:01 |
rubenwardy |
if you want to get the stuff from .minetest |
| 15:01 |
rubenwardy |
then you can make it not run in place, but don't run make install |
| 15:02 |
Glorfindel |
ok, how would I run in place? |
| 15:02 |
rubenwardy |
Do you compile yourself? That is recommended |
| 15:02 |
Glorfindel |
not if I can help it lol |
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rubenwardy |
cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 |
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Glorfindel |
ah, ok |
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rubenwardy |
cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 && make -j2 |
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rubenwardy |
to run, double click file in bin |
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Glorfindel |
ty |
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rubenwardy |
almost done my essay XD |
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Glorfindel |
haha gl! |
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Glorfindel |
rubenwardy: btw how did you know what I had asked? you joined after I asked it lol |
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Glorfindel |
watching the log? |
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rubenwardy |
watching the log, yeah |
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rubenwardy |
well, I just happened to check |
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rubenwardy |
like, I hadn't checked for about 2 hours |
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robert_ |
what's the difference between minetest and cuberite? |
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rubenwardy |
!g cuberite |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: http://cuberite.org/ |
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rubenwardy |
robert_, that sounds like a fork |
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rubenwardy |
just looking... |
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rubenwardy |
no, it's a separate project |
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Glorfindel |
rubenwardy: immaculate timing! thanks :D |
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rubenwardy |
cuberite appears to only be a game server for minecraft |
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robert_ |
oh, this isn't minecraft at all? |
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robert_ |
just very similar, then? |
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Glorfindel |
yeah, not the same, better |
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rubenwardy |
Minetest isn't Minecraft. It's a game engine to make voxel games - it just happens that most people want voxel games like MC |
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Glorfindel |
starting with free :D |
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rubenwardy |
voxel meaning blocky |
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rubenwardy |
!mod Capture the Flag |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: City v City / Capture the Flag - Team Alloc by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6947 |
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rubenwardy |
that's a voxel game, but is not MC-like |
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rubenwardy |
but yeah - we don't support connecting to Minecraft protocols as it just wouldn't work write, Minetest has real support for mods |
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rubenwardy |
and MC doesn't |
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CWz_ |
is anuone here |
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CWz_ |
~hello |
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jomat |
CWz_: Yor IRC client should have a name list to see who's there. If not, try the command /names |
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CWz_ |
freenode is experiencing issues trying to figure out which of the free servers has the services |
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CWz_ |
*freenode |
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jomat |
the services gone right now i think |
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jomat |
at least there was an announcement: 15:46:16│[freenode] -mist(~mrmist freenode/staff/mist)- [Global-ish notice] Hmm, appears a hub went boom. Services are unavailable whilst we figure out where it went. |
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CWz |
much better |
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Krock |
hi |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Hello, Krockpot. |
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est31 |
good evening |
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Krock |
I'm not a teapot. |
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CWz |
freenode seems to be broken almost everyday now |
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Krock |
It's so broken that I can't even notice that it's broken.. |
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Krock |
maybe it's just working fine right now |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Krock, there is such thing as a crock pot.... |
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Ingar |
"Krock Monsieur" |
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Ingar |
it's a double toast with cheese and ham |
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Krock |
:< |
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Krock |
Isn't that Kroque or smth liek that? |
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Ingar |
Croque |
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Krock |
yeah. |
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Ingar |
but I'm not french so we pronounce it Krock |
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rubenwardy |
IT BEGINS. |
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rubenwardy |
http://minetest.rubenwardy.com/stats/ |
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rubenwardy |
VanessaE ^ |
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Krock |
Omg noes :< |
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est31 |
O.o |
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Krock |
blue is about to lose |
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est31 |
Do you still randomly get team color? |
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rubenwardy |
it's done on the order of iteration of ctf.players, iirc |
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rubenwardy |
or get_connected_players |
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rubenwardy |
and join time |
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CWz |
rubenwardy, I am confused. |
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rubenwardy |
CWz, on what? |
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CWz |
Pretty sure most of them are just breaking blocks |
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CWz |
it's hard to find minetesters who play the objective nowdays |
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rubenwardy |
I'm online, and I'll kick people that do that |
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CWz |
how much screaming is going on, on that server |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Krock, here's a picture: http://scene7.targetimg1.com/is/image/Target/13796517?wid=410&hei=410 |
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Krock |
JohnnyComeL8ly, they stole my name idea! |
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CWz |
eh |
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rubenwardy |
CWz, tablet users are the ones that don't play the objective, usually |
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CWz |
Yes, because "building is hard". |
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CWz |
Very annoying to play minetest if you are tableteer |
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MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Document limitations of minetest.get_password_hash 89168a7 http://git.io/vRLBl (2015-12-02T18:32:14+01:00) |
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Calinou |
rubenwardy, these are tablet players: http://users.kymp.net/feuer/etcomic/037.jpg |
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Calinou |
and smartphone users, with their virtual keyboards: http://users.kymp.net/feuer/etcomic/013.jpg |
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Krock |
Sorry, but who's that guitar guy? |
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Calinou |
Krock, probably "Slash" who I guess is a singer |
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Krock |
lol.. perfect :D |
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Fixer |
lol |
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Teckla |
Wasn't Slash the guitarist for Guns N Roses? |
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Teckla |
He always wore the funny hat |
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* sofar |
chuckes at just pub |
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Krock |
Teckla, he actually was the one, yeah. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Calinou, I liked the first one better. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I like this one http://users.kymp.net/feuer/etcomic/015.jpg |
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Krock |
spastic? |
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Calinou |
Calinouje |
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Calinou |
Calinoutic |
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Calinou |
which one? |
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Krock |
"which one", definitely. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Calinou, you could switch it up a bit... Calounitic |
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Krock |
JohnnyComeL8je |
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cheapie |
"Minetest" in Minetest machine (using my new RGB lightstone): https://cheapiesystems.com//media/images/screenshot_20151202_135248.png |
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cheapie |
Sure, it's only 2D, only has 4 node types, is sort of laggy, requires LuaC overheating to be disabled, doesn't have gravity, and the controls are awkward, but it works. |
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Glorfindel |
lol |
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cheapie |
That green pixel is the player, by the way. |
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sofar |
lol, cute |
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sofar |
I soooo dislike the luacontroller overheating |
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sofar |
I wish that wasn't the default |
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cheapie |
I disabled the "prohibited commands" as well so that I could use for loops, but I could unroll them if necessary. |
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exio4 |
nice cheapie |
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rubenwardy |
Calinou: look at that crash, http://minetest.rubenwardy.com/stats/ |
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rubenwardy |
within 10 minutes I lost 10 players |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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rubenwardy |
My initial theory was that Just Test came back online |
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rubenwardy |
but no |
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Teckla |
rubenwardy: Does that mean that after a Minetest crash, 10 less players rejoined? |
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rubenwardy |
no, server didn't crash |
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Teckla |
rubenwardy: Oh, so 10 players just happened to leave within the same 10 minute time range? |
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rubenwardy |
yeah |
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rubenwardy |
less players means less joiners |
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Teckla |
rubenwardy: Any theories why so many left in such a small time range? |
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Teckla |
...bedtime for kids in a particular time zone, maybe? |
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rubenwardy |
lag I think |
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Teckla |
Ah, hrmm |
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asl97 |
might have been my fault, i capture the flag and that destroy their house and they rage quit xD |
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rubenwardy |
my server doesn't usually lag that much, at least not for me |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
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rubenwardy |
that's true |
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asl97 |
rubenwardy: it would be nice if the stat show when a flag is capture |
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rubenwardy |
yes |
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rubenwardy |
I thought that |
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rubenwardy |
Shouldn't be too hard to add vertical lines to gnuplot |
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Glorfindel |
that would be cool |
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Glorfindel |
rubenwardy: there are quite a few players on again now |
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rubenwardy |
yeah |
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rubenwardy |
back to 14+ |
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rubenwardy |
maybe tea time? |
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Glorfindel |
haha |
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Glorfindel |
server just crash rubenwardy? lol |
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rubenwardy |
no? |
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rubenwardy |
nothing in the logs |
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rubenwardy |
Glorfindel, |
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rubenwardy |
^ |
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Fixer |
v |
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Glorfindel |
rubenwardy: huh |
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Fixer |
server went nuts again v_v |
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afflatus |
I'm doing my own head in again |
| 22:33 |
afflatus |
I'm trying to indx a table using nodenames |
| 22:33 |
afflatus |
Apparently that's wrong |
| 22:35 |
afflatus |
What idiot mistake am I making here? http://paste.debian.net/340717/ |
| 22:37 |
afflatus |
All I can see is trees ... and occasional fruit ;-) |
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behalebabo |
afflatus: use [], ['food:gorse'] instead of 'food:gorse' |
| 22:43 |
behalebabo |
if you initialize a table like that you have to use [] around quoted strings |
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behalebabo |
for the indexes, not the values |
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afflatus |
behalebabo: thanks! |
| 22:45 |
afflatus |
That was doing my head in |
| 22:46 |
afflatus |
And it works! :-) |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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rubenwardy |
Fixer: what do you mean by nuts? Lots of players? |
| 23:27 |
Fixer |
lots of strange laaag |
| 23:27 |
Fixer |
1 minute to open inventory |
| 23:27 |
Fixer |
after that it just stops responding |
| 23:28 |
Fixer |
it is Extreme Survival Minetest server, what the hell is wrong with it :( |
| 23:28 |
rubenwardy |
ah, not mine. Thank good. XD |
| 23:28 |
rubenwardy |
How many players? |
| 23:28 |
Fixer |
like 3 |
| 23:29 |
rubenwardy |
what spec and internet connection? Is it yours? |
| 23:29 |
Fixer |
lag is like that .|.|.|.........................................|............forever until restart |
| 23:29 |
Fixer |
no |
| 23:29 |
Fixer |
spec is pretty good, connection is good |
| 23:29 |
Fixer |
it is minetest or mod problem |
| 23:30 |
rubenwardy |
!server Extreme Survival |
| 23:30 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Extreme Survival Minetest | 23.28.76.50 | Clients: 0/43, 1/6 | Version: 0.4.13 / extreme_survival | Ping: 137ms |
| 23:30 |
rubenwardy |
large ping, compared to |
| 23:30 |
rubenwardy |
!server Capture |
| 23:30 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Capture the Flag (Guns!) | minetest.rubenwardy.com | Clients: 13/20, 12/19 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 1ms |
| 23:30 |
rubenwardy |
137x more |
| 23:30 |
Fixer |
it is in USA |
| 23:30 |
Fixer |
100 ms is reasonable |
| 23:30 |
rubenwardy |
oh, true I guess |
| 23:30 |
Fixer |
it is always like that |
| 23:30 |
Fixer |
i've played FPS games with 100ms, reasonably well |
| 23:31 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest doesn't have very good client side prediction |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
it is strange problem, it works for some time and... silence (it is not crashing), just silence, like in a coma |
| 23:32 |
rubenwardy |
What does the packet graph look like on F5? |
| 23:32 |
Fixer |
can't tell, can't connect to it |
| 23:33 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3046 like that |
| 23:34 |
Fixer |
possibly fixed on 27 Sep 15 |
| 23:34 |
Fixer |
let me check what git version he uses |
| 23:35 |
rubenwardy |
I hate moderating |
| 23:36 |
Fixer |
hmm |
| 23:36 |
Fixer |
he uses 10 Sep 2015 build |
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