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fling |
What are the greatest mods? |
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koz_ |
fling: You mean just mods, or subgames/textures as well? |
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fling |
koz_: idk, I'm rebuilding my server, I'm about to add something new probably. |
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koz_ |
fling: Well, I'm really enjoying Wasteland right now. |
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koz_ |
It's a pretty awesome subgame. |
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* fling |
checking |
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koz_ |
fling: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=7243 |
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fling |
Right, looks good, thanks. |
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fling |
Will not multiworld be supported any time soon? |
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koz_ |
fling: What's multiworld? |
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fling |
I'd like to be able to run multiple worlds on a single server with different mods applied. |
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koz_ |
fling: Ah, that. I dunno honestly. |
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fling |
Any new ineteresting mods around? |
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fling |
Which worldedit to use? The one from Uberi? |
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fling |
Is there a client-side player animation mod? |
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Hi I'm trying to organise an experiment in Minetest to blast an object, trying map the distance, and trajectory etc. When I uses TNT, it just explodes everything - can it be constrained to act like a cannon? |
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sofar |
you'll have to modify the tnt mod |
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sofar |
flying blocks are possible too, you'll have to make them though |
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basil60 |
<sofar>can't do it with standard assets? |
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sofar |
what are "standard assets" ? |
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basil60 |
<sofar> without creating a mod? |
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sofar |
the current tnt mod just removes a bunch of blocks and makes a few of them drop as item |
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sofar |
I don't think there's any code in there that does what you want, so, unless somone has made a better mod, no |
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basil60 |
<sofar>OK thanks for your help |
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rubenwardy |
TIL ssh host <<'ENDSSH' \n cmd \n cmd \n ENDSSH |
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rubenwardy |
Now I don't have to ssh into my server manually, just to update and restart the mt server |
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fling |
How to get privileges for single player? |
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fling |
Or how to fly? |
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RealBadAngel |
fling, /grant singleplayer all |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: thanks. |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: where to put mods when running a local server? |
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RealBadAngel |
you can add them to subgame folder they will be aviable for that game |
10:41 |
RealBadAngel |
or you can put them into /mods folder, they will be aviable for all the subgames (ofc when enabled) |
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RealBadAngel |
or put them into world folder |
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RealBadAngel |
for the last one you have to create new world first |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: tried ~/.mineteste/mods but it is not worknig |
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RealBadAngel |
you have to enable them |
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RealBadAngel |
in world creation tab, hit configure and enable mods you want |
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RealBadAngel |
btw, when you add mods to subgame folder you wont need to enable them |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: ok, thanks. |
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RealBadAngel |
they will become part of a subgame |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: some of the mods are not working. |
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fling |
Item "moretrees:slab_spruce_planks" not defined |
10:51 |
RealBadAngel |
please pastebin whole log |
10:51 |
RealBadAngel |
propably you dont have all the dependencies |
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fling |
ahh thanks, missing biome_lib |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: which mod forstairs:stair_nether_brick ? |
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RealBadAngel |
i guess nether mod or some mc compability one |
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CWz |
why is the package name for the Curses terminal. |
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RealBadAngel |
propably you libncurses and libncurses-dev |
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fling |
CWz: bashsimplecurses -> https://github.com/metal3d/bashsimplecurses |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: how to easily add a block to an existing mod? |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: for example I want to add stairs to nether mod reusing the default stairs and nether brick texture. |
11:23 |
RealBadAngel |
your mod need to have stairs mod in deps |
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fling |
What else? |
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RealBadAngel |
then you have to call register function from stairs mod with your source block to get stairs |
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RealBadAngel |
hold on |
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RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/stairs/init.lua#L250 |
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RealBadAngel |
here you have examples |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: what is stairsplus mod doing? :P |
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RealBadAngel |
add more stairs? |
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fling |
hmm hmmmm |
11:34 |
RealBadAngel |
also add other blocks not just stairs and slabs |
11:35 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/CasimirKaPazi/stairsplus/blob/master/init.lua#L12 |
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Calinou |
More Blocks has those panels (1/4 node) and microblocks (1/8 node) |
11:42 |
fling |
RealBadAngel: am I allowed to use stairs.register_stair_and_slab in a different mod? |
11:43 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, thats why the function is exposed |
11:43 |
fling |
great! |
11:43 |
RealBadAngel |
its meant to be used by other mods |
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RealBadAngel |
the one from stairsplus also |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: getting : attempt to index global 'stairs' (a nil value) |
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RealBadAngel |
put stairs in depends.txt of your mod |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: great! thanks. |
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RealBadAngel |
this way you make sure stairs get loaded before your mod |
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fling |
The issue is "stairs:stair_nether_brick" not defined hmm hmmm |
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fling |
I added this to init.lua of nether -> stairs.register_stair_and_slab("brick", "nether:brick", {cracky = 3}, {"nether_brick.png"}, "Nether Brick Stair", "Nether Brick Slab", default.node_sound_stone_defaults()) |
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RealBadAngel |
fling i just added the line you pasted at the end of nether's init lua and got those stairs |
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RealBadAngel |
where have you put that line? |
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fling |
stairs:stair_nether_brick ? are you sure with this exact name? |
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fling |
to nether/init.lua |
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RealBadAngel |
i just copy pasted your line |
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RealBadAngel |
2015-11-22 13:11:04: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer takes "stairs:stair_brick" from creative inventory |
12:12 |
RealBadAngel |
maybe you should use "nether_brick" in the call |
12:12 |
RealBadAngel |
this way you will get name: stairs:stair_nether_brick |
12:13 |
RealBadAngel |
2015-11-22 13:13:07: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer takes "stairs:stair_nether_brick" from creative inventory |
12:13 |
RealBadAngel |
2015-11-22 13:13:11: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer places node stairs:stair_nether_brick at (270,2,137) |
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RealBadAngel |
yeah |
12:14 |
fling |
RealBadAngel: it works now! thanks. |
12:15 |
fling |
RealBadAngel: I also have a bunch of unknown blocks, tried to identify using 'inspector' mod from the forum but it outputs nothing in the console for these blocks. |
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fling |
RealBadAngel: this inspector -> https://bpaste.net/show/9d4d97a7569d |
12:17 |
RealBadAngel |
if theres undefined node placed on the ground just try to dig it |
12:17 |
fling |
Tried, it disappears, then appears again, drops nothing. |
12:18 |
RealBadAngel |
you should see error |
12:18 |
fling |
I see no error. |
12:19 |
RealBadAngel |
weird |
12:21 |
RealBadAngel |
that inspector thingy works for me |
12:22 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/TxmxFt3.png |
12:23 |
RealBadAngel |
here you can see error when trying to dig unknown node and above inventory msg from inspector |
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fling |
I've seen the error even without inspector installed for the other unknown nodes. |
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fling |
I could upload the world and mods dir ;P |
12:25 |
fling |
ahhh there is a tool |
12:25 |
fling |
sorry ;P |
12:26 |
* fling |
searched for inspector in the invertory and found inspector tool ;P |
12:26 |
fling |
unknown block is homedecor:flower_pot_small |
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fling |
ok I will need to upload some repos today yay! |
12:27 |
RealBadAngel |
about searching repos and stuff, get UnifiedInventory |
12:29 |
rubenwardy |
:( https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_modding_book/pull/23/files?diff=unified#diff-15e8c2ae4fa729126903ceeb2c94b96dR99 |
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twoelk |
phew - it's been snowing all morning - winter has come :-) |
12:31 |
fling |
RealBadAngel: looks like something is wrong with homedecor mod. |
12:31 |
fling |
RealBadAngel: I can have the pot in my inventory but can't place it |
12:31 |
fling |
RealBadAngel: it is also not mineable and not giving an error |
12:31 |
fling |
RealBadAngel: and appears as unkn own node when already exsist in a world. |
12:42 |
* fling |
added nether brick fence yay! |
12:42 |
RealBadAngel |
are you sure you have up to date homedecor modpack/ |
12:42 |
RealBadAngel |
? |
12:42 |
fling |
Yes, it is a new install |
12:43 |
RealBadAngel |
whats your version of the game? |
12:44 |
fling |
0.4.13-dev-d7bbe81-dirty |
12:44 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, you got homedecor from here? https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/archive/master.zip |
12:44 |
fling |
Yes. |
12:46 |
RealBadAngel |
do you have UI installed? |
12:46 |
fling |
UI? |
12:46 |
rubenwardy |
!mod unified inventory |
12:46 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Unified Inventory [unified_inventory] by RealBadAngel - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=3933 |
12:47 |
fling |
No. |
12:47 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/archive/master.zip |
12:47 |
RealBadAngel |
so get it |
12:48 |
RealBadAngel |
type in the search field "pot" and see what does it show |
12:48 |
RealBadAngel |
you should see 12 different items |
12:49 |
fling |
RealBadAngel: installed. |
12:49 |
fling |
RealBadAngel: yes I found the pot in creative inventory before I installed UI and it works fine in the inventory. |
12:49 |
fling |
RealBadAngel: but I can't place it as I said. |
12:50 |
RealBadAngel |
all the pots are not working? |
12:51 |
fling |
Flower Pot (green) works |
12:51 |
fling |
Small Flower Pot is not worknig |
12:51 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/Bav5Q9N.png |
12:52 |
RealBadAngel |
ah indeed, same here |
12:52 |
fling |
ok, then it is a bug as I thougt. |
12:52 |
RealBadAngel |
small flower pot is not a node |
12:52 |
RealBadAngel |
its crafting item |
12:53 |
RealBadAngel |
put it together with flower of your choice to get pot with flower |
12:53 |
fling |
ahh!!! |
12:53 |
fling |
It is unclear for me, ok. |
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RealBadAngel |
you can see all the crafting recipes ingame with UI, or for homedecor itseld on this page: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/homedecor-crafting-guide/homedecor-craft-guide.html |
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Obani |
Guys, try this in minetest.conf |
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Obani |
console_color = (20,10,15) |
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Obani |
console_alpha = 150 |
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Obani |
selectionbox_color = (50,40,60) |
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Obani |
selectionbox_width = 3 |
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Obani |
crosshair_color = (200,200,200) |
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Obani |
it enhances a bit the game appearance :) |
13:20 |
Calinou |
why would you want to darken the crosshair |
13:20 |
Calinou |
also default console color is pretty good IMO |
13:21 |
Calinou |
black selection box is also quite easy to see, except in the dark |
13:21 |
Calinou |
if playing frequently in the dark, you may find (255,255,255) useful (white) |
13:21 |
Obani |
well this one is much prettier to me ^^ |
13:21 |
Obani |
and dark-dark-red console looks great ! |
13:22 |
Obani |
for crosshair, I wanted to try but I'm not sure ^^ |
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* who_wants_some |
is here |
13:58 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, any progress on 3166 or texture tear problem? |
13:59 |
RealBadAngel |
not yet, im coding something else at the moment, much older stuff |
14:00 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, btw, are you sure that with shaders MT is faster? |
14:01 |
who_wants_some |
i mean fps is larger* |
14:01 |
RealBadAngel |
depends what effects are you using |
14:02 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, I've also discovered bug with D3D9, I loose inventory icons of certain items when alt+tab, that is bad, d3d9 was much faster and without texture problems |
14:03 |
RealBadAngel |
directx? we dont support dx shaders at all |
14:03 |
RealBadAngel |
texture problems are propably related to filtering |
14:03 |
RealBadAngel |
anizotropic filtering eliminates weird texture patters |
14:05 |
RealBadAngel |
theres also another problem with directx, i wonder if any of the devs have windows ;) |
14:06 |
est31 |
blockmen has |
14:06 |
est31 |
but yeah RBA is right we only have ogl shaders |
14:06 |
est31 |
not even ogl es compatible ones |
14:07 |
* est31 |
waits for vulkan's pressure to cause M$ to join the party ... in 15 years lol |
14:09 |
RealBadAngel |
who_wants_some, http://imgur.com/a/qlmZ3 |
14:09 |
RealBadAngel |
here you can see anizotropic filtering off and on |
14:10 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, I've noticed, what the problem? |
14:10 |
RealBadAngel |
that so called texture tear problem is just not using filtering i suppose |
14:10 |
who_wants_some |
i see papyrus rendering problem |
14:11 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, i don't remember it on ice, wait a sec |
14:11 |
RealBadAngel |
every texture is affected with it |
14:11 |
RealBadAngel |
on some you can see it better than on the others |
14:12 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, try seed and location from here https://i.imgur.com/XjdNcvZ.jpg |
14:12 |
RealBadAngel |
also shaders put there they own 5 cents, bumpmapping and relief mapping are done in certain area around player |
14:13 |
RealBadAngel |
using those effects for whole rendered world would be too heavy |
14:13 |
est31 |
I'm sure that terasology has them enabled for the whole world |
14:14 |
est31 |
I mean my computer has to do _something_ in the time it takes to render my 1 frame per second |
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who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, very good screenshot with this problem -> https://i.imgur.com/FUxQ5ye.jpg |
14:14 |
est31 |
at a viewing range of 8 blocks |
14:14 |
est31 |
ermm I mean nodes ofc |
14:14 |
est31 |
voxels |
14:15 |
est31 |
idk how they call it |
14:16 |
RealBadAngel |
who_wants_some, can you try the scene with anizotropic filtering on and off? |
14:19 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, that screenshow was made with "mipmap + aniso filter" |
14:19 |
who_wants_some |
screenshot* |
14:19 |
RealBadAngel |
i see |
14:19 |
who_wants_some |
let me do it without anizo |
14:19 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, and shaders off iirc |
14:20 |
who_wants_some |
yes, shaders off too |
14:22 |
RealBadAngel |
i would like to have box with setup like one with such errors |
14:22 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont have here any of those issues, i mean texture tear or fucked up wieldmesh |
14:23 |
RealBadAngel |
hard to fix something that works ok for you |
14:24 |
RealBadAngel |
atm i cant afford to buy another GFX card or build another box |
14:24 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, without aniso -> https://i.imgur.com/xO5wTBC.jpg |
14:25 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, you are on linux or windows? |
14:25 |
RealBadAngel |
linux |
14:27 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, this could be windows driver problem, look at my poll -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13500 |
14:28 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, maybe it works good under linux but * * in windows |
14:28 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, do you have another PC near by windows? |
14:28 |
who_wants_some |
with* windows |
14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont |
14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
i will make another box for testing but not now |
14:30 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, i wonder if it possible to fire up vmware or vbox with windows xp, enable 3d and test it there |
14:35 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, i've tried practically everything, changed every setting, and only cure for texture tear is d3d, but it has its own problems with icons and no shaders :/ |
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RealBadAngel |
hmm, we had some problems with fsaa |
14:41 |
RealBadAngel |
have your drivers ability to turn it on/off ? |
14:44 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, yes, i've tried that already, no help anyway |
14:44 |
who_wants_some |
i've tried different driver settings |
14:44 |
who_wants_some |
already |
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RealBadAngel |
who_wants_some, can you find in your drivers app something like that? http://i.imgur.com/KZ4bM2x.png |
14:53 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, yes |
14:54 |
RealBadAngel |
so please try override off |
14:54 |
who_wants_some |
i've tried that already |
14:56 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, i've set it to "force it to off", no effect |
14:56 |
RealBadAngel |
with reboot? maybe such settings need that |
14:57 |
who_wants_some |
no need for reboot in windows |
14:58 |
who_wants_some |
it applies immideatly |
14:58 |
who_wants_some |
sorry for no spell checker, some text may be broken |
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15:05 |
RealBadAngel |
i see no other way for me to fix it then other than having a platform with this bugs |
15:06 |
who_wants_some |
RealBadAngel, or made a small partition and slap some windows on it |
15:07 |
who_wants_some |
make* |
15:07 |
Ingar |
"small" |
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15:08 |
who_wants_some |
if xp it is indeed small |
15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
i will try adding second hdd and put there winshit, we will see |
15:09 |
who_wants_some |
my winshit sp1 folder is 29gb in size, lol |
15:10 |
who_wants_some |
win7 |
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who_wants_some |
there are hacked xp version that are DSL-like small, 50-100 mb in size |
15:12 |
who_wants_some |
versios* |
15:12 |
who_wants_some |
guh, whatever |
15:12 |
who_wants_some |
not sure if newer windows can be made that small |
15:13 |
Krock |
Imagine, MS-DOS and tetris fits on a 720 KiB floppy |
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15:13 |
est31 |
software is like gas |
15:14 |
est31 |
but still, minetest still runs on XP!! |
15:14 |
who_wants_some |
why imagine? i've played on spectrum with cassettes |
15:14 |
who_wants_some |
dat loading time... |
15:14 |
Krock |
est31, omg, it's even possible to compile it on win XP ^^ |
15:14 |
who_wants_some |
and no manual |
15:15 |
who_wants_some |
still runs? it is on 12% of computers right now %) |
15:15 |
est31 |
but we really should port minetest to SNES |
15:15 |
who_wants_some |
win xp lives |
15:15 |
est31 |
that would be fun I guess |
15:15 |
Krock |
could eb really fun to detect the error source.. |
15:15 |
who_wants_some |
no wonder why people don't upgrade with w10 bs coming down the road |
15:16 |
est31 |
well xp has many shortcomings |
15:16 |
est31 |
in terms of security, and more |
15:16 |
who_wants_some |
yeah, horrible security |
15:16 |
Krock |
^ for all windows versions |
15:17 |
who_wants_some |
android is worse |
15:17 |
who_wants_some |
at least you can upgrade on PC |
15:17 |
Krock |
I think nerds could update the android version with no problem |
15:17 |
who_wants_some |
on smart/tablet-crap you end up with outdated OS with open doors wide open |
15:18 |
who_wants_some |
yes, nerds |
15:18 |
who_wants_some |
updating that crap is not a trivial process |
15:19 |
everamzah |
if it were easy would people be so eager to buy new hardware? ;) |
15:19 |
who_wants_some |
tablet/smart hype already dies down |
15:19 |
who_wants_some |
soon they will cry about post-smartphone area |
15:19 |
who_wants_some |
era* |
15:19 |
Krock |
everybody buy an apple watch, which lasts 2 hours before you must charge it again |
15:20 |
Krock |
! |
15:20 |
est31 |
if you have cyanogenmod its quite easy |
15:20 |
who_wants_some |
buy a toaster with linux |
15:20 |
est31 |
if all your apps are cyanogenmod and f-droid, you have clear update paths |
15:20 |
who_wants_some |
that way you can make a toast and a cheap server with 2GB or RAM and 1TB of storage |
15:21 |
Krock |
A toaster, running Linux .. what what? |
15:21 |
who_wants_some |
Cyanogen does not even support my phone and tablet, and something is always broken |
15:21 |
who_wants_some |
at least it was not tested |
15:22 |
who_wants_some |
Krock, or some kind of LinuxWatch, debian included (tm)(r) |
15:22 |
est31 |
I always watch out that I buy things that support cyanogenmod |
15:22 |
est31 |
but yeah, I've bought i9100, so that will be supported for the next decade I guess |
15:22 |
est31 |
just too popular |
15:22 |
who_wants_some |
that could help |
15:24 |
who_wants_some |
in those days you need to watch out, crap everywhere |
15:25 |
who_wants_some |
there is also some bs coming down the road at you |
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15:26 |
who_wants_some |
at us* |
15:33 |
Calinou |
<est31> but still, minetest still runs on XP!! |
15:33 |
Calinou |
maybe we can drop support for it in 2016 |
15:34 |
Calinou |
<who_wants_some> android is worse |
15:34 |
est31 |
kicking out Krock in the process? |
15:34 |
Calinou |
you can upgrade your Android ROM yourself too :) |
15:34 |
est31 |
thats mean! |
15:34 |
Krock |
nuuh pls don't hurt me |
15:35 |
who_wants_some |
there are lots of people with XP, wonder how many of them visit forum and site |
15:35 |
who_wants_some |
wait, but does it run on Win98? that would be perfect!1 |
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15:36 |
est31 |
sfan5 what are the links to your last stats? |
15:36 |
Krock |
who_wants_some, it stops working on W2k |
15:36 |
sfan5 |
est31: 11th july 14 http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html |
15:37 |
sfan5 |
or do you mean serverlist? |
15:37 |
est31 |
yes |
15:37 |
sfan5 |
https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/serverlist_stats_2015-03-14.txt |
15:37 |
Calinou |
who_wants_some, the OpenArena developer liked to keep Windows 98 support for a while |
15:37 |
Calinou |
he ultimately removed it |
15:38 |
est31 |
we have about 1% XP users |
15:38 |
Krock |
and 12% of all Windows players.. |
15:40 |
est31 |
we know that 15% of our users use obviously illegal IOS apps :) |
15:40 |
Krock |
That goes into the category "fun facts" |
15:40 |
est31 |
so we have more illegals than windows users |
15:41 |
who_wants_some |
you mean jailbreaked Ios? |
15:41 |
Krock |
call the NSA! |
15:41 |
est31 |
no Krock call Trump |
15:41 |
est31 |
he sends them back |
15:41 |
sfan5 |
who_wants_some: no |
15:41 |
Krock |
oh right, forgot him |
15:41 |
sfan5 |
there is no official Minetest app for iOS |
15:41 |
who_wants_some |
ah |
15:41 |
sfan5 |
that means those players are using cheap clones |
15:41 |
sfan5 |
which probably do not adhere to the GPL |
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15:41 |
Calinou |
http://www.gnu.org/software/for-ios.html |
15:41 |
Calinou |
fun fact: GNU endorses software for iOS |
15:41 |
Calinou |
this is pretty new |
15:42 |
who_wants_some |
MC runs under W98SE |
15:42 |
who_wants_some |
funny |
15:42 |
who_wants_some |
also GTA: San Andreas |
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15:42 |
Calinou |
there are only 4 right now |
15:42 |
Krock |
o.o |
15:42 |
who_wants_some |
endorses ios? wth is that |
15:42 |
fling |
haha! |
15:42 |
est31 |
Calinou, GNU endorses?? |
15:42 |
fling |
this is funny |
15:42 |
Calinou |
they endorse the software for it, not iOS itself |
15:42 |
est31 |
I've thought (L)GPL licensed software was banned from iOS |
15:42 |
who_wants_some |
that is just... 4 open source programs for Ios? that is amazing |
15:43 |
est31 |
no |
15:43 |
est31 |
4 GPL programs |
15:43 |
est31 |
or at least thats what I am interpreting |
15:43 |
Calinou |
actually VLC is mostly LGPL, Vim has Vim license (which has dual-license with GPL) |
15:44 |
est31 |
VLC was rewritten I've heard to be MIT licensed, no? |
15:44 |
Calinou |
no, they asked contributors for LGPL relicense of the core |
15:44 |
est31 |
total waste of resources IMO |
15:44 |
who_wants_some |
btw, I have crap in my shelf, it is called smart TV? it has android, what should i do with it? |
15:44 |
Calinou |
permissive rewrites are often technically better than copyleft ones :P |
15:44 |
Calinou |
a good example of this is https://github.com/ogham/exa |
15:44 |
est31 |
isn't LGPL forbidden on iOS app store? |
15:44 |
Calinou |
it doesn't seem to be |
15:44 |
Calinou |
also GPL is allowed, provided you add an exception |
15:44 |
est31 |
well yeah |
15:45 |
fling |
Calinou: what exception? |
15:45 |
Krock |
who_wants_some, move it to your trash bin. |
15:45 |
est31 |
you can also add an exception "feel free to make non-GPL conformant derivates of this software, go on, pervert the GPL!" |
15:46 |
est31 |
totally your right, GPL is a non-exclusive license |
15:46 |
est31 |
just there is no sense in it |
15:46 |
fling |
who_wants_some: do you want a little pot? -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBKfICSIgR0 |
15:46 |
Calinou |
fling, it's an exception that allows publishing on iOS App Store without following the terms of the license |
15:46 |
who_wants_some |
fling, nope |
15:46 |
Calinou |
it has to be granted by the copyright holder(s) |
15:47 |
Calinou |
so if you have substantial contributors, you have to ask their permission |
15:49 |
MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Update HUD flags on server like on client a4e3ed0 http://git.io/vBfEq (2015-11-22T16:49:20+01:00) |
15:50 |
fling |
Is there a client-side player animation mod? |
15:50 |
fling |
Something for better head movement? Limbs anyone? |
15:50 |
est31 |
head movement cant be done due to irrlicht problems |
15:50 |
est31 |
idk whether they are resolved |
15:51 |
est31 |
its old bug thougjh |
15:51 |
est31 |
though* |
15:51 |
est31 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2716 |
15:52 |
est31 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1800 |
15:52 |
Calinou |
is player pitch even sent to the server? |
15:52 |
Calinou |
IIRC, no, and entities don't have pitch |
15:53 |
est31 |
idk, you opened one of the bugs |
15:53 |
est31 |
some time ago :P |
15:53 |
est31 |
no please remember it all |
15:53 |
est31 |
*evil laugh * |
15:54 |
* Krock |
looks worried at est31 |
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15:56 |
est31 |
but yeah Calinou is right only yaw is sent no pitch |
15:56 |
est31 |
content_cao.cpp line 624 |
15:59 |
Calinou |
let's fix it |
15:59 |
Calinou |
make the player impossible to look up/down |
16:03 |
rubenwardy |
+1 |
16:05 |
DFeniks |
how do you separate stacks on android client? asking for a friend |
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crazyR |
est31: whats the chances of this working? https://gist.github.com/crazyR14/9beeb38bddfa8bd905e2 |
16:11 |
crazyR |
oh he's gone lol |
16:11 |
bark1 |
I'm trying to make diamonds have a 50% chance of dropping when mining obsidian. I'm missing the last part of the code - the actual "spawn-item-command". Can anyone point me in a direction? (http://pb.rbfh.de/12zdKhhBObqss) |
16:11 |
Calinou |
bark1, read the default:leaves code in games/minetest_game/mods/default/nodes.lua |
16:12 |
Calinou |
it'd be copypasta, but it works :) |
16:12 |
bark1 |
thanks for the advice! |
16:12 |
sfan5 |
crazyR: thats hacky but will probably work |
16:12 |
crazyR |
i know its hacky, just not sure of a better way of doing it. |
16:13 |
sfan5 |
bark1: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L459-L473 |
16:16 |
crazyR |
sfan5: Do you know if there is there anyway i could do the same as above to the on_receive_fields() callback in nodes? |
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sfan5 |
crazyR: you mean also call newFunc instead of on_receive_fields on nodes? |
16:18 |
crazyR |
yeah pretty much, Im just looking for a way that i can manipulate the feilds data before the function is called. but it has to work on all existing nodes/forms etc |
16:23 |
sfan5 |
well you'd need to soft-depend on every mod and rewrite register_node the same way |
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crazyR |
hmm, that wont work in this situation but thanks. Gues il have to rethink this idea lol |
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16:43 |
rubenwardy |
Added loads more anchor links to http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/lua_api.html |
16:43 |
rubenwardy |
much easy to pick a specific place |
16:43 |
RealBadAngel |
DFeniks, tap an item with 2 fingers and split them |
16:43 |
RealBadAngel |
not comfortable but works |
16:50 |
E4xoi |
hai hai |
16:50 |
E4xoi |
C++11 is kinda decent, like, compared to C++03 |
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sfan5 |
rubenwardy: >no SSL |
16:54 |
rubenwardy |
why would I need https://? I'm not a bank |
16:55 |
sfan5 |
you're not? |
16:55 |
sfan5 |
ok then |
16:56 |
Ingar |
the more useless traffic has to be decrypted by the NSA the better |
16:56 |
rubenwardy |
It's hosted by github pages, which doesn't support ssl anyway |
16:56 |
Ingar |
:( |
17:03 |
nrzkt |
rubenwardy, i can propose you to do a man in the middle on your page with a password and try it on all your accounts to see if it's same as FB, Twitter, etc :p |
17:03 |
rubenwardy |
I have no logins at all |
17:04 |
nrzkt |
are you sure you didn't have a login on github and the related mail address? |
17:04 |
rubenwardy |
Yes, but I push using git |
17:05 |
nrzkt |
which use ? an authentication :p |
17:05 |
rubenwardy |
this is my website: https://github.com/rubenwardy/rubenwardy.github.io |
17:05 |
nrzkt |
and if you are using SSH okay you have a key, but i can push on github using HTTP |
17:05 |
nrzkt |
and then with your login/pwd |
17:05 |
rubenwardy |
I use https:// to push to github |
17:06 |
nrzkt |
okay then, but don't say you didn't need https :p |
17:06 |
rubenwardy |
I don't need it on rubenwardy.com |
17:06 |
rubenwardy |
I have zero public logins there |
17:08 |
rubenwardy |
"I'm not a bank" was a bit of an exageration |
17:21 |
Obani |
Calinou, crosshair with alpha is really nice looking on new Minetest dev versions :D |
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hoodedice |
https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck |
17:32 |
who_wants_some |
whaat? |
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17:39 |
hoodedice |
auto corrects and inputs terminal command typos |
17:39 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe, thats nice |
17:39 |
hoodedice |
pressing up and then correcting is better IMO, but this is a nice party (workplace) trick |
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17:41 |
Krock |
hoodedice, what a lovely correction feature :D |
17:41 |
hoodedice |
indeed |
17:42 |
Krock |
most used word in the last week: fuck (50%) |
17:44 |
Obani |
rubenwardy, I'm writing something on your ctf server, I hope you'll read it carrefully :) |
17:45 |
Obani |
(not posted yet) |
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rubenwardy |
Yeah, just read the logs just now |
18:00 |
rubenwardy |
up-to-date |
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cimbakahn |
Hello! |
18:09 |
cimbakahn |
I am looking at this page, and i am confused ----> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall |
18:09 |
cimbakahn |
I am looking for something in between the bare minimum install and the full install. And i want a graphical installer. Can anyone help? |
18:09 |
cimbakahn |
Which download do i click on? I want the newest one, but NOT the daily build. |
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18:10 |
cimbakahn |
Sorry! Wrong room. |
18:11 |
Krock |
Happens.. |
18:12 |
Krock |
Daily is the newest build... |
18:12 |
cimbakahn |
Yes. But daily means you'll get updates every single day so i don't want that one. |
18:14 |
cimbakahn |
I wonder if you can get Wily without getting daily...... |
18:14 |
Krock |
Dunno much about Linux but can't that update function be turned off? |
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18:17 |
Calinou |
cimbakahn, you can try Debian Xfce/LXDE, for a lightweight, yet graphical distribution |
18:17 |
Calinou |
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
18:17 |
Calinou |
(requires an Internet connection while installing) |
18:17 |
Calinou |
it asks you for the desktop environment to install during the process, you can choose one or many |
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18:47 |
Obani |
rubenwardy, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13157&p=199089#p199089 |
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18:56 |
rubenwardy |
seen it |
18:56 |
rubenwardy |
thanks |
18:56 |
Obani |
I would like to thank devs for their work on the new settings menu. It light be a bit complicated for newbies but is a very useful tool to customize MT client :D |
18:56 |
rubenwardy |
replying |
18:57 |
Obani |
rubenwardy, it's normal that you have problems on your server, as it's a new server |
18:57 |
Krock |
new = problems, old = more problems? |
18:58 |
Obani |
old = problems, ancient = depend of if its maintained :p |
18:59 |
Obani |
on* |
19:00 |
Obani |
rubenwardy, IMO, capture the flag would be really cool if it was looking like Planet Side a big map and many players scoring for their team and making strategy to approach base/defend their own |
19:01 |
Obani |
afk |
19:02 |
hoodedice |
> a big map and many players |
19:02 |
hoodedice |
> minetest |
19:02 |
hoodedice |
choose one |
19:02 |
Calinou |
hi hoodedice |
19:02 |
hoodedice |
ello |
19:02 |
Calinou |
hoodedice, check out my game made using Godot: https://github.com/Veraball/veraball |
19:03 |
hoodedice |
Calinou, second time |
19:03 |
Calinou |
(I can make you a Windows export, if you want) |
19:03 |
hoodedice |
pls |
19:03 |
Calinou |
well I updated it quite a bit |
19:03 |
hoodedice |
I'll bookmark it, and will ask cortana to remind me about it after my finals =D |
19:04 |
microsoftshill |
hurr durr hey guys have you heard of continuum? |
19:08 |
rubenwardy |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13157&p=199093#p199093 |
19:08 |
rubenwardy |
Obani, |
19:09 |
rubenwardy |
edited |
19:11 |
sfan5 |
microsoftshill: no wat is that |
19:12 |
microsoftshill |
hurr continuum is like the best thing evar |
19:12 |
microsoftshill |
and it is totally not ripped off from ubuntu's convergence (it actually was developed at the same time) |
19:13 |
microsoftshill |
you can use your phone as a PC by docking it with a Microsoftâ„¢ Dock |
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19:15 |
hoodedice |
mfw <candide> You have been temporarily banned due to nick-change flooding. You will be unbanned in 30 minutes. |
19:15 |
hoodedice |
##C pls |
19:16 |
sfan5 |
lelele |
19:16 |
Calinou |
hoodedice, https://up1.ca/#q0IYHG1B03giJ0ZzcYTJFA |
19:16 |
Calinou |
32-bit Windows binary. |
19:16 |
Calinou |
please report to me, does it have an icon? |
19:16 |
Calinou |
(the Veraball logo, being a circle with dotted line) |
19:16 |
Calinou |
and can you run it? |
19:16 |
Calinou |
(I use export templates from http://fixnum.org/godot) |
19:18 |
hoodedice |
displays no logo, app displays godot logo in title bar, and everything is grey |
19:18 |
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19:19 |
Calinou |
good to know :s |
19:19 |
hoodedice |
tl;dr doesn't work |
19:20 |
Krock |
hoodedice, the long explanation is better than the tl;dr version in this case ;) |
19:20 |
Calinou |
hope it will work with stable 2.0 templates, when they will be released |
19:20 |
Krock |
At least if someone tries to fix the bugs |
19:21 |
hoodedice |
Krock, my actual bug reports tend to be quite long =D |
19:21 |
hoodedice |
but this isn't ##veraball |
19:21 |
Krock |
hoodedice, yeah, sure. a novel isn't needed |
19:21 |
Calinou |
I don't have an IRC channel (yet?) |
19:22 |
Krock |
Let's open it: #calinou |
19:22 |
Calinou |
the game is in its early states, I started ~12 days ago |
19:23 |
hoodedice |
Krock, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1039 |
19:23 |
hoodedice |
or https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1191 |
19:24 |
hoodedice |
I'm busy, if you get me after the finals, I might even pop open VS and try to debug it :P /s |
19:26 |
* sfan5 |
debugs hoodedice |
19:27 |
hoodedice |
Segmentation Fault (core dumped) |
19:30 |
Krock |
rofl |
19:32 |
hoodedice |
something funny I just thought up: Fragmentation fault (FAT12 dumped) |
19:33 |
Obani |
rubenwardy, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13157&p=199101#p199101 |
19:36 |
rubenwardy |
replied https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=199102#p199102 |
19:47 |
Yepoleb |
Calinou: I'm playing it, the first level is really hard |
19:48 |
who_wants_some |
Javascript is required to view and upload files. |
19:48 |
who_wants_some |
oh come on |
19:49 |
Calinou |
Yepoleb, you can jump using Space bar |
19:50 |
Krock |
move forward, using W |
19:51 |
Calinou |
W, Z, Up arrow all work |
19:51 |
Calinou |
(so that AZERTY keyboards can play too) |
19:51 |
Krock |
depends on settings |
19:52 |
Calinou |
Krock, Godot isn't supposed to work on Windows XP :p |
19:53 |
Yepoleb |
Calinou: It took me about 15 tries to finish the first level, most players would have quit already |
19:54 |
Krock |
I don't give a shit about that, Calinou |
19:55 |
Yepoleb |
Calinou: Make sure the player can do it in less than 3 tries, or he will get frustrated |
19:55 |
Calinou |
Yepoleb, the levels will heavily change anyway in the future :P |
19:56 |
Yepoleb |
Yeah, just make sure the first levels are easy, so the player can gain confidence |
19:57 |
Calinou |
there will be level packs too, probably |
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who_wants_some |
VanessaE, you here? |
20:20 |
who_wants_some |
VanessaE, I've noticed that some signs on your servers are backwards |
20:27 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
who_wants_some, no, they're just partly translated Hebrew.... |
20:28 |
Obani |
rubenwardy, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13157&p=199108#p199108 |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
who_wants_some, OR, it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boustrophedon |
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* JohnnyComeL8ly |
is going to LinuxGaming |
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20:52 |
blaise |
Hello? |
20:53 |
blaise |
wtf, I thought I authed via nickserv |
20:53 |
blaise |
gah damnah |
20:53 |
blaise |
oh wait, I guess I did |
20:53 |
blaise |
is anyone here online? |
20:53 |
blaise |
what's up with mobs? what's the laitest craze? |
20:53 |
blaise |
anyone? |
20:54 |
blaise |
Herro? |
20:58 |
Yepoleb |
blaise: hi |
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20:58 |
blaise |
Yepoleb: hello! |
20:59 |
blaise |
hey so like... |
20:59 |
blaise |
I think mobf and/or animals mod pack is broken with >=minetest-0.4.12 |
20:59 |
blaise |
definitly not working with minetest-0.4.13 |
20:59 |
Yepoleb |
Calinou: I just tried the second level and the coin sparkes are awesome |
20:59 |
blaise |
anyone know anything about that? |
21:00 |
hoodedice |
can you please try to type everything in one message? Thanks |
21:02 |
blaise |
hoodedice: I'm afraid that's impossible as I don't know what I'm going to type on the next line.. that's what the carriage return key is for.. to end the line <EOL> |
21:03 |
hoodedice |
<blaise> hey so like... I think mobf and/or animals mod pack is broken with >=minetest-0.4.12, and definitly not working with minetest-0.4.13 |
21:03 |
hoodedice |
there you go. |
21:03 |
blaise |
hoodedice: if you don't like people, you could always change your irc client to block people that send more than 5 lines in 30 seconds |
21:04 |
blaise |
viola |
21:04 |
hoodedice |
okay then. |
21:04 |
hoodedice |
!next |
21:04 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
21:04 |
blaise |
:D |
21:05 |
Yepoleb |
blaise: i can't do that on my client |
21:07 |
blaise |
so now that I've been harrassed by hoodedice for my carriage return key abuse.. would anyone happen to know if animals modpack 2.4.2 works with minetest-0.4.13 ? |
21:07 |
hoodedice |
> harassed |
21:08 |
blaise |
s/harrassed/harassed/herassedded/ |
21:08 |
Yepoleb |
what? |
21:08 |
hoodedice |
sfan5, whatever happened to auto-kicking for flooding? Was that a shadowbot feature> |
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sfan5 |
hoodedice: yes |
21:09 |
hoodedice |
you disappoint me |
21:09 |
blaise |
Yepoleb: the functionality I refer to is available in all irc clients.. |
21:09 |
blaise |
hoodedice: who, me? |
21:09 |
hoodedice |
no, sfan |
21:09 |
Yepoleb |
blaise: pls teach me |
21:09 |
hoodedice |
blaise, it is also available in all channels |
21:10 |
hoodedice |
it is called "tell chanop that someone is flooding" |
21:10 |
blaise |
Yepoleb: I'm afraid I don't have time to show you how to use your irc client.. please refer to the documentation... |
21:10 |
blaise |
Yepoleb: http://www.quassel-irc.org/ |
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Yepoleb |
blaise: can't find it |
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blaise |
hoodedice: so, you have no idea towards the functionality of animals-modpack-2.4.2 in minetest-0.4.13 ? |
21:12 |
hoodedice |
no |
21:12 |
hoodedice |
if I did, I would've told you |
21:13 |
blaise |
interesting, thanks |
21:15 |
Yepoleb |
blaise: have you looked at the forums post? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=629 |
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cimbakahn |
Can you install Minetest on GhostBSD 10.1 MATE? |
21:18 |
cimbakahn |
Here it is on Distrowatch ------> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ghostbsd |
21:20 |
Yepoleb |
cimbakahn: if it's based on freebsd it should work |
21:20 |
Yepoleb |
check out the download page for instructions http://www.minetest.net/downloads/ |
21:20 |
cimbakahn |
Let me look. |
21:21 |
cimbakahn |
Based on: FreeBSD Yep! It is! |
21:23 |
cimbakahn |
Oh my gosh! I hope i don't have to compile it. I have never compiled a package before. |
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Yepoleb |
cimbakahn: you use bsd and are scared of compiling? |
21:25 |
cimbakahn |
Ok. There is a pkg method. Phew! pkg install minetest minetest_game |
21:26 |
cimbakahn |
I do not use bsd. I am thinking about installing it. That is why i asked in the first place. |
21:26 |
cimbakahn |
I am currently using LXLE. |
21:27 |
cimbakahn |
This is what i am using ------> http://lxle.net/ |
21:28 |
cimbakahn |
This is what i'm thinking about installing ----> http://www.ghostbsd.org/ |
21:29 |
blaise |
lmao |
21:30 |
Yepoleb |
cimbakahn: stick with ubuntu until you're comfortable compiling |
21:30 |
blaise |
maybe you should stay away from bsd till you're more comfortable with handeling source code.. |
21:30 |
cimbakahn |
I have been using linux for over a year now. Previously i have used Debian and Debian/Ubuntu based distros. |
21:31 |
blaise |
seriously, if you're scared to compile code yourself you might have a bad time with bsd |
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blaise |
minetest is actually pretty trivial to compile |
21:31 |
Yepoleb |
cimbakahn: do you have a richard stallman beard? |
21:31 |
cimbakahn |
If they have enough programs to make me comfortable, why not try it? |
21:31 |
cimbakahn |
HAHAHA! No! |
21:32 |
cimbakahn |
I am a 53 Y.O. female. |
21:33 |
Yepoleb |
cimbakahn: everything's possible if you believe in yourself |
21:34 |
cimbakahn |
I remember the days when i was skittish about trying linux. It took me 8 months to make up my mind if i was going to do it or not. |
21:35 |
cimbakahn |
Now, i don't know how i can live without a Linux OS. I could never have as much fun with Windows. |
21:36 |
cimbakahn |
Sometimes change is necessary for a persons growth. Wouldn't you agree? |
21:38 |
Yepoleb |
cimbakahn: idk, i'm fine with using the stuff that works |
21:40 |
cimbakahn |
Me too! But sometimes i like to check out other distros. Never know, i might find something i like better than LinuxMint. |
21:56 |
Calinou |
<Yepoleb> Calinou: I just tried the second level and the coin sparkes are awesome |
21:56 |
Calinou |
yeah, Godot has a powerful particle system |
21:56 |
Calinou |
but they can't collide with the world (fade when touching, bounce, stick to surfaces…) |
21:58 |
everamzah |
do sid |
21:58 |
everamzah |
cimbakahn |
21:58 |
cimbakahn |
Yes! |
21:58 |
cimbakahn |
sid? |
21:59 |
everamzah |
yea its debian but anything else is fun, i agree. even to break it! |
21:59 |
everamzah |
sid motto is when you break it, you get to keep all the pieces, or something.. |
21:59 |
everamzah |
but i tried openbsd before, i really liked that one |
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cimbakahn |
I see. |
22:01 |
everamzah |
https://www.debian.org/releases/sid/ |
22:02 |
Yepoleb |
everamzah: sid is pretty stable, i rarely have problems with it |
22:02 |
cimbakahn |
I have been checking out these videos ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY1AYQdO54o http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x39k2bz |
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cimbakahn |
I am looking at it now. |
22:03 |
everamzah |
i guess you get the devel installer, and then change repo target to sid or unstable and dist-upgrade |
22:03 |
everamzah |
but maybe that's not the proper procedure |
22:04 |
everamzah |
https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
22:04 |
Yepoleb |
Calinou: Something else i noticed was that some surfaces are completely black. Can you add a second lightsource that's only provides a minimum amount of light? |
22:05 |
cimbakahn |
It looks a little chancey. |
22:05 |
Yepoleb |
I always got the latest testing iso and upgraded from there |
22:05 |
everamzah |
it can be, but it's calmer now that some time has passed since jessie's release, from what i understand |
22:05 |
everamzah |
ok yea, that's the only way i ever knew how to do it |
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Yepoleb |
I don't think there are sid images |
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cimbakahn |
Lately i have been looking for distros that are very new but stable. |
22:07 |
* thePalindrome |
uses gentoo, but that's mainly compiling :P |
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Calinou |
Yepoleb, there's a small ambient light |
22:07 |
Calinou |
if your screen is too dark/has bad contrast, you may not notice it |
22:07 |
everamzah |
you can't have your cake and eat it, too |
22:08 |
everamzah |
always wanted to say that |
22:08 |
thePalindrome |
But... cake D: |
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Yepoleb |
it doesn't even make sense |
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Yepoleb |
why can't i eat my own cake? |
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Yepoleb |
Calinou: on fullscreen i can barely see it |
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everamzah |
i was remarking on the stability of new software, if that's what you meant by new distros. if it's new software, it may not be as tested or stable. |
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everamzah |
i just thought.. hehe |
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Calinou |
Fedora is known to be pretty robust, yet it has recent software |
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everamzah |
they're pretty cool |
22:18 |
everamzah |
probably pretty motivated |
22:18 |
everamzah |
i liked arch wiki |
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everamzah |
like* |
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thePalindrome |
Fedora is the "testing" version of RHEL |
22:20 |
everamzah |
but from what i see there's testing or preview releases of fedora, so it's like testing-testing |
22:21 |
thePalindrome |
yeah, rawhide is basically sid |
22:26 |
Calinou |
I should upgrade to 23, I'm still on 22 |
22:26 |
* thePalindrome |
doesn't use Fedora anymore, because systemd |
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22:33 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy, https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/issues/7 -> 8 is too much I'd say |
22:33 |
Calinou |
try 5, and 2 for crouch |
22:33 |
Calinou |
keep acceleration to their default values |
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rubenwardy |
thanks |
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cimbakahn |
Sorry! I got busy. See you later. |
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who_wants_some |
ohohoho... |
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Calinou |
http://www.gimp.org/ was remade!! |
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thePalindrome |
Reminds me of the blender website |
23:03 |
Calinou |
and 2.8.14 |
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Calinou |
2.8.16* |
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