Time Nick Message 01:01 everamzah ya minetest is nice 01:48 fling What are the greatest mods? 01:50 koz_ fling: You mean just mods, or subgames/textures as well? 01:50 fling koz_: idk, I'm rebuilding my server, I'm about to add something new probably. 01:52 koz_ fling: Well, I'm really enjoying Wasteland right now. 01:52 koz_ It's a pretty awesome subgame. 01:53 * fling checking 01:54 koz_ fling: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=7243 01:55 fling Right, looks good, thanks. 01:55 fling Will not multiworld be supported any time soon? 01:58 koz_ fling: What's multiworld? 01:58 fling I'd like to be able to run multiple worlds on a single server with different mods applied. 01:59 koz_ fling: Ah, that. I dunno honestly. 02:00 fling Any new ineteresting mods around? 02:05 fling Which worldedit to use? The one from Uberi? 02:14 fling Is there a client-side player animation mod? 03:08 basil60 Hi I'm trying to organise an experiment in Minetest to blast an object, trying map the distance, and trajectory etc. When I uses TNT, it just explodes everything - can it be constrained to act like a cannon? 03:17 sofar you'll have to modify the tnt mod 03:17 sofar flying blocks are possible too, you'll have to make them though 03:17 basil60 can't do it with standard assets? 03:18 sofar what are "standard assets" ? 03:18 basil60 without creating a mod? 03:18 sofar the current tnt mod just removes a bunch of blocks and makes a few of them drop as item 03:18 sofar I don't think there's any code in there that does what you want, so, unless somone has made a better mod, no 03:19 basil60 OK thanks for your help 04:15 rubenwardy TIL ssh host <<'ENDSSH' \n cmd \n cmd \n ENDSSH 04:15 rubenwardy Now I don't have to ssh into my server manually, just to update and restart the mt server 10:04 fling How to get privileges for single player? 10:04 fling Or how to fly? 10:17 RealBadAngel fling, /grant singleplayer all 10:19 fling RealBadAngel: thanks. 10:39 fling RealBadAngel: where to put mods when running a local server? 10:40 RealBadAngel you can add them to subgame folder they will be aviable for that game 10:41 RealBadAngel or you can put them into /mods folder, they will be aviable for all the subgames (ofc when enabled) 10:41 RealBadAngel or put them into world folder 10:42 RealBadAngel for the last one you have to create new world first 10:42 fling RealBadAngel: tried ~/.mineteste/mods but it is not worknig 10:43 RealBadAngel you have to enable them 10:44 RealBadAngel in world creation tab, hit configure and enable mods you want 10:44 RealBadAngel btw, when you add mods to subgame folder you wont need to enable them 10:44 fling RealBadAngel: ok, thanks. 10:45 RealBadAngel they will become part of a subgame 10:50 fling RealBadAngel: some of the mods are not working. 10:50 fling Item "moretrees:slab_spruce_planks" not defined 10:51 RealBadAngel please pastebin whole log 10:51 RealBadAngel propably you dont have all the dependencies 10:52 fling ahh thanks, missing biome_lib 10:58 fling RealBadAngel: which mod forstairs:stair_nether_brick ? 10:59 RealBadAngel i guess nether mod or some mc compability one 11:15 CWz why is the package name for the Curses terminal. 11:20 RealBadAngel propably you libncurses and libncurses-dev 11:21 fling CWz: bashsimplecurses -> https://github.com/metal3d/bashsimplecurses 11:21 fling RealBadAngel: how to easily add a block to an existing mod? 11:22 fling RealBadAngel: for example I want to add stairs to nether mod reusing the default stairs and nether brick texture. 11:23 RealBadAngel your mod need to have stairs mod in deps 11:23 fling What else? 11:23 RealBadAngel then you have to call register function from stairs mod with your source block to get stairs 11:23 RealBadAngel hold on 11:24 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/stairs/init.lua#L250 11:24 RealBadAngel here you have examples 11:33 fling RealBadAngel: what is stairsplus mod doing? :P 11:33 RealBadAngel add more stairs? 11:34 fling hmm hmmmm 11:34 RealBadAngel also add other blocks not just stairs and slabs 11:35 RealBadAngel https://github.com/CasimirKaPazi/stairsplus/blob/master/init.lua#L12 11:35 Calinou More Blocks has those panels (1/4 node) and microblocks (1/8 node) 11:42 fling RealBadAngel: am I allowed to use stairs.register_stair_and_slab in a different mod? 11:43 RealBadAngel yes, thats why the function is exposed 11:43 fling great! 11:43 RealBadAngel its meant to be used by other mods 11:44 RealBadAngel the one from stairsplus also 11:47 fling RealBadAngel: getting : attempt to index global 'stairs' (a nil value) 11:48 RealBadAngel put stairs in depends.txt of your mod 11:48 fling RealBadAngel: great! thanks. 11:48 RealBadAngel this way you make sure stairs get loaded before your mod 11:51 fling The issue is "stairs:stair_nether_brick" not defined hmm hmmm 11:52 fling I added this to init.lua of nether -> stairs.register_stair_and_slab("brick", "nether:brick", {cracky = 3}, {"nether_brick.png"}, "Nether Brick Stair", "Nether Brick Slab", default.node_sound_stone_defaults()) 11:58 RealBadAngel fling i just added the line you pasted at the end of nether's init lua and got those stairs 11:59 RealBadAngel where have you put that line? 12:01 fling stairs:stair_nether_brick ? are you sure with this exact name? 12:02 fling to nether/init.lua 12:10 RealBadAngel i just copy pasted your line 12:11 RealBadAngel 2015-11-22 13:11:04: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer takes "stairs:stair_brick" from creative inventory 12:12 RealBadAngel maybe you should use "nether_brick" in the call 12:12 RealBadAngel this way you will get name: stairs:stair_nether_brick 12:13 RealBadAngel 2015-11-22 13:13:07: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer takes "stairs:stair_nether_brick" from creative inventory 12:13 RealBadAngel 2015-11-22 13:13:11: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer places node stairs:stair_nether_brick at (270,2,137) 12:13 RealBadAngel yeah 12:14 fling RealBadAngel: it works now! thanks. 12:15 fling RealBadAngel: I also have a bunch of unknown blocks, tried to identify using 'inspector' mod from the forum but it outputs nothing in the console for these blocks. 12:15 fling RealBadAngel: this inspector -> https://bpaste.net/show/9d4d97a7569d 12:17 RealBadAngel if theres undefined node placed on the ground just try to dig it 12:17 fling Tried, it disappears, then appears again, drops nothing. 12:18 RealBadAngel you should see error 12:18 fling I see no error. 12:19 RealBadAngel weird 12:21 RealBadAngel that inspector thingy works for me 12:22 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/TxmxFt3.png 12:23 RealBadAngel here you can see error when trying to dig unknown node and above inventory msg from inspector 12:23 fling I've seen the error even without inspector installed for the other unknown nodes. 12:24 fling I could upload the world and mods dir ;P 12:25 fling ahhh there is a tool 12:25 fling sorry ;P 12:26 * fling searched for inspector in the invertory and found inspector tool ;P 12:26 fling unknown block is homedecor:flower_pot_small 12:26 fling ok I will need to upload some repos today yay! 12:27 RealBadAngel about searching repos and stuff, get UnifiedInventory 12:29 rubenwardy :( https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_modding_book/pull/23/files?diff=unified#diff-15e8c2ae4fa729126903ceeb2c94b96dR99 12:30 twoelk phew - it's been snowing all morning - winter has come :-) 12:31 fling RealBadAngel: looks like something is wrong with homedecor mod. 12:31 fling RealBadAngel: I can have the pot in my inventory but can't place it 12:31 fling RealBadAngel: it is also not mineable and not giving an error 12:31 fling RealBadAngel: and appears as unkn own node when already exsist in a world. 12:42 * fling added nether brick fence yay! 12:42 RealBadAngel are you sure you have up to date homedecor modpack/ 12:42 RealBadAngel ? 12:42 fling Yes, it is a new install 12:43 RealBadAngel whats your version of the game? 12:44 fling 0.4.13-dev-d7bbe81-dirty 12:44 RealBadAngel ok, you got homedecor from here? https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/archive/master.zip 12:44 fling Yes. 12:46 RealBadAngel do you have UI installed? 12:46 fling UI? 12:46 rubenwardy !mod unified inventory 12:46 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Unified Inventory [unified_inventory] by RealBadAngel - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=3933 12:47 fling No. 12:47 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/archive/master.zip 12:47 RealBadAngel so get it 12:48 RealBadAngel type in the search field "pot" and see what does it show 12:48 RealBadAngel you should see 12 different items 12:49 fling RealBadAngel: installed. 12:49 fling RealBadAngel: yes I found the pot in creative inventory before I installed UI and it works fine in the inventory. 12:49 fling RealBadAngel: but I can't place it as I said. 12:50 RealBadAngel all the pots are not working? 12:51 fling Flower Pot (green) works 12:51 fling Small Flower Pot is not worknig 12:51 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/Bav5Q9N.png 12:52 RealBadAngel ah indeed, same here 12:52 fling ok, then it is a bug as I thougt. 12:52 RealBadAngel small flower pot is not a node 12:52 RealBadAngel its crafting item 12:53 RealBadAngel put it together with flower of your choice to get pot with flower 12:53 fling ahh!!! 12:53 fling It is unclear for me, ok. 12:59 RealBadAngel you can see all the crafting recipes ingame with UI, or for homedecor itseld on this page: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/homedecor-crafting-guide/homedecor-craft-guide.html 13:19 Obani Guys, try this in minetest.conf 13:19 Obani console_color = (20,10,15) 13:19 Obani console_alpha = 150 13:19 Obani selectionbox_color = (50,40,60) 13:19 Obani selectionbox_width = 3 13:19 Obani crosshair_color = (200,200,200) 13:20 Obani it enhances a bit the game appearance :) 13:20 Calinou why would you want to darken the crosshair 13:20 Calinou also default console color is pretty good IMO 13:21 Calinou black selection box is also quite easy to see, except in the dark 13:21 Calinou if playing frequently in the dark, you may find (255,255,255) useful (white) 13:21 Obani well this one is much prettier to me ^^ 13:21 Obani and dark-dark-red console looks great ! 13:22 Obani for crosshair, I wanted to try but I'm not sure ^^ 13:56 * who_wants_some is here 13:58 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, any progress on 3166 or texture tear problem? 13:59 RealBadAngel not yet, im coding something else at the moment, much older stuff 14:00 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, btw, are you sure that with shaders MT is faster? 14:01 who_wants_some i mean fps is larger* 14:01 RealBadAngel depends what effects are you using 14:02 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, I've also discovered bug with D3D9, I loose inventory icons of certain items when alt+tab, that is bad, d3d9 was much faster and without texture problems 14:03 RealBadAngel directx? we dont support dx shaders at all 14:03 RealBadAngel texture problems are propably related to filtering 14:03 RealBadAngel anizotropic filtering eliminates weird texture patters 14:05 RealBadAngel theres also another problem with directx, i wonder if any of the devs have windows ;) 14:06 est31 blockmen has 14:06 est31 but yeah RBA is right we only have ogl shaders 14:06 est31 not even ogl es compatible ones 14:07 * est31 waits for vulkan's pressure to cause M$ to join the party ... in 15 years lol 14:09 RealBadAngel who_wants_some, http://imgur.com/a/qlmZ3 14:09 RealBadAngel here you can see anizotropic filtering off and on 14:10 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, I've noticed, what the problem? 14:10 RealBadAngel that so called texture tear problem is just not using filtering i suppose 14:10 who_wants_some i see papyrus rendering problem 14:11 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, i don't remember it on ice, wait a sec 14:11 RealBadAngel every texture is affected with it 14:11 RealBadAngel on some you can see it better than on the others 14:12 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, try seed and location from here https://i.imgur.com/XjdNcvZ.jpg 14:12 RealBadAngel also shaders put there they own 5 cents, bumpmapping and relief mapping are done in certain area around player 14:13 RealBadAngel using those effects for whole rendered world would be too heavy 14:13 est31 I'm sure that terasology has them enabled for the whole world 14:14 est31 I mean my computer has to do _something_ in the time it takes to render my 1 frame per second 14:14 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, very good screenshot with this problem -> https://i.imgur.com/FUxQ5ye.jpg 14:14 est31 at a viewing range of 8 blocks 14:14 est31 ermm I mean nodes ofc 14:14 est31 voxels 14:15 est31 idk how they call it 14:16 RealBadAngel who_wants_some, can you try the scene with anizotropic filtering on and off? 14:19 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, that screenshow was made with "mipmap + aniso filter" 14:19 who_wants_some screenshot* 14:19 RealBadAngel i see 14:19 who_wants_some let me do it without anizo 14:19 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, and shaders off iirc 14:20 who_wants_some yes, shaders off too 14:22 RealBadAngel i would like to have box with setup like one with such errors 14:22 RealBadAngel i dont have here any of those issues, i mean texture tear or fucked up wieldmesh 14:23 RealBadAngel hard to fix something that works ok for you 14:24 RealBadAngel atm i cant afford to buy another GFX card or build another box 14:24 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, without aniso -> https://i.imgur.com/xO5wTBC.jpg 14:25 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, you are on linux or windows? 14:25 RealBadAngel linux 14:27 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, this could be windows driver problem, look at my poll -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13500 14:28 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, maybe it works good under linux but * * in windows 14:28 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, do you have another PC near by windows? 14:28 who_wants_some with* windows 14:29 RealBadAngel i dont 14:29 RealBadAngel i will make another box for testing but not now 14:30 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, i wonder if it possible to fire up vmware or vbox with windows xp, enable 3d and test it there 14:35 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, i've tried practically everything, changed every setting, and only cure for texture tear is d3d, but it has its own problems with icons and no shaders :/ 14:41 RealBadAngel hmm, we had some problems with fsaa 14:41 RealBadAngel have your drivers ability to turn it on/off ? 14:44 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, yes, i've tried that already, no help anyway 14:44 who_wants_some i've tried different driver settings 14:44 who_wants_some already 14:52 RealBadAngel who_wants_some, can you find in your drivers app something like that? http://i.imgur.com/KZ4bM2x.png 14:53 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, yes 14:54 RealBadAngel so please try override off 14:54 who_wants_some i've tried that already 14:56 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, i've set it to "force it to off", no effect 14:56 RealBadAngel with reboot? maybe such settings need that 14:57 who_wants_some no need for reboot in windows 14:58 who_wants_some it applies immideatly 14:58 who_wants_some sorry for no spell checker, some text may be broken 15:05 RealBadAngel i see no other way for me to fix it then other than having a platform with this bugs 15:06 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, or made a small partition and slap some windows on it 15:07 who_wants_some make* 15:07 Ingar "small" 15:08 who_wants_some if xp it is indeed small 15:08 RealBadAngel i will try adding second hdd and put there winshit, we will see 15:09 who_wants_some my winshit sp1 folder is 29gb in size, lol 15:10 who_wants_some win7 15:12 who_wants_some there are hacked xp version that are DSL-like small, 50-100 mb in size 15:12 who_wants_some versios* 15:12 who_wants_some guh, whatever 15:12 who_wants_some not sure if newer windows can be made that small 15:13 Krock Imagine, MS-DOS and tetris fits on a 720 KiB floppy 15:13 est31 software is like gas 15:14 est31 but still, minetest still runs on XP!! 15:14 who_wants_some why imagine? i've played on spectrum with cassettes 15:14 who_wants_some dat loading time... 15:14 Krock est31, omg, it's even possible to compile it on win XP ^^ 15:14 who_wants_some and no manual 15:15 who_wants_some still runs? it is on 12% of computers right now %) 15:15 est31 but we really should port minetest to SNES 15:15 who_wants_some win xp lives 15:15 est31 that would be fun I guess 15:15 Krock could eb really fun to detect the error source.. 15:15 who_wants_some no wonder why people don't upgrade with w10 bs coming down the road 15:16 est31 well xp has many shortcomings 15:16 est31 in terms of security, and more 15:16 who_wants_some yeah, horrible security 15:16 Krock ^ for all windows versions 15:17 who_wants_some android is worse 15:17 who_wants_some at least you can upgrade on PC 15:17 Krock I think nerds could update the android version with no problem 15:17 who_wants_some on smart/tablet-crap you end up with outdated OS with open doors wide open 15:18 who_wants_some yes, nerds 15:18 who_wants_some updating that crap is not a trivial process 15:19 everamzah if it were easy would people be so eager to buy new hardware? ;) 15:19 who_wants_some tablet/smart hype already dies down 15:19 who_wants_some soon they will cry about post-smartphone area 15:19 who_wants_some era* 15:19 Krock everybody buy an apple watch, which lasts 2 hours before you must charge it again 15:20 Krock ! 15:20 est31 if you have cyanogenmod its quite easy 15:20 who_wants_some buy a toaster with linux 15:20 est31 if all your apps are cyanogenmod and f-droid, you have clear update paths 15:20 who_wants_some that way you can make a toast and a cheap server with 2GB or RAM and 1TB of storage 15:21 Krock A toaster, running Linux .. what what? 15:21 who_wants_some Cyanogen does not even support my phone and tablet, and something is always broken 15:21 who_wants_some at least it was not tested 15:22 who_wants_some Krock, or some kind of LinuxWatch, debian included (tm)(r) 15:22 est31 I always watch out that I buy things that support cyanogenmod 15:22 est31 but yeah, I've bought i9100, so that will be supported for the next decade I guess 15:22 est31 just too popular 15:22 who_wants_some that could help 15:24 who_wants_some in those days you need to watch out, crap everywhere 15:25 who_wants_some there is also some bs coming down the road at you 15:26 who_wants_some at us* 15:33 Calinou but still, minetest still runs on XP!! 15:33 Calinou maybe we can drop support for it in 2016 15:34 Calinou android is worse 15:34 est31 kicking out Krock in the process? 15:34 Calinou you can upgrade your Android ROM yourself too :) 15:34 est31 thats mean! 15:34 Krock nuuh pls don't hurt me 15:35 who_wants_some there are lots of people with XP, wonder how many of them visit forum and site 15:35 who_wants_some wait, but does it run on Win98? that would be perfect!1 15:36 est31 sfan5 what are the links to your last stats? 15:36 Krock who_wants_some, it stops working on W2k 15:36 sfan5 est31: 11th july 14 http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html 15:37 sfan5 or do you mean serverlist? 15:37 est31 yes 15:37 sfan5 https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/serverlist_stats_2015-03-14.txt 15:37 Calinou who_wants_some, the OpenArena developer liked to keep Windows 98 support for a while 15:37 Calinou he ultimately removed it 15:38 est31 we have about 1% XP users 15:38 Krock and 12% of all Windows players.. 15:40 est31 we know that 15% of our users use obviously illegal IOS apps :) 15:40 Krock That goes into the category "fun facts" 15:40 est31 so we have more illegals than windows users 15:41 who_wants_some you mean jailbreaked Ios? 15:41 Krock call the NSA! 15:41 est31 no Krock call Trump 15:41 est31 he sends them back 15:41 sfan5 who_wants_some: no 15:41 Krock oh right, forgot him 15:41 sfan5 there is no official Minetest app for iOS 15:41 who_wants_some ah 15:41 sfan5 that means those players are using cheap clones 15:41 sfan5 which probably do not adhere to the GPL 15:41 Calinou http://www.gnu.org/software/for-ios.html 15:41 Calinou fun fact: GNU endorses software for iOS 15:41 Calinou this is pretty new 15:42 who_wants_some MC runs under W98SE 15:42 who_wants_some funny 15:42 who_wants_some also GTA: San Andreas 15:42 Calinou there are only 4 right now 15:42 Krock o.o 15:42 who_wants_some endorses ios? wth is that 15:42 fling haha! 15:42 est31 Calinou, GNU endorses?? 15:42 fling this is funny 15:42 Calinou they endorse the software for it, not iOS itself 15:42 est31 I've thought (L)GPL licensed software was banned from iOS 15:42 who_wants_some that is just... 4 open source programs for Ios? that is amazing 15:43 est31 no 15:43 est31 4 GPL programs 15:43 est31 or at least thats what I am interpreting 15:43 Calinou actually VLC is mostly LGPL, Vim has Vim license (which has dual-license with GPL) 15:44 est31 VLC was rewritten I've heard to be MIT licensed, no? 15:44 Calinou no, they asked contributors for LGPL relicense of the core 15:44 est31 total waste of resources IMO 15:44 who_wants_some btw, I have crap in my shelf, it is called smart TV? it has android, what should i do with it? 15:44 Calinou permissive rewrites are often technically better than copyleft ones :P 15:44 Calinou a good example of this is https://github.com/ogham/exa 15:44 est31 isn't LGPL forbidden on iOS app store? 15:44 Calinou it doesn't seem to be 15:44 Calinou also GPL is allowed, provided you add an exception 15:44 est31 well yeah 15:45 fling Calinou: what exception? 15:45 Krock who_wants_some, move it to your trash bin. 15:45 est31 you can also add an exception "feel free to make non-GPL conformant derivates of this software, go on, pervert the GPL!" 15:46 est31 totally your right, GPL is a non-exclusive license 15:46 est31 just there is no sense in it 15:46 fling who_wants_some: do you want a little pot? -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBKfICSIgR0 15:46 Calinou fling, it's an exception that allows publishing on iOS App Store without following the terms of the license 15:46 who_wants_some fling, nope 15:46 Calinou it has to be granted by the copyright holder(s) 15:47 Calinou so if you have substantial contributors, you have to ask their permission 15:49 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Update HUD flags on server like on client 13a4e3ed0 http://git.io/vBfEq (152015-11-22T16:49:20+01:00) 15:50 fling Is there a client-side player animation mod? 15:50 fling Something for better head movement? Limbs anyone? 15:50 est31 head movement cant be done due to irrlicht problems 15:50 est31 idk whether they are resolved 15:51 est31 its old bug thougjh 15:51 est31 though* 15:51 est31 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2716 15:52 est31 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1800 15:52 Calinou is player pitch even sent to the server? 15:52 Calinou IIRC, no, and entities don't have pitch 15:53 est31 idk, you opened one of the bugs 15:53 est31 some time ago :P 15:53 est31 no please remember it all 15:53 est31 *evil laugh * 15:54 * Krock looks worried at est31 15:56 est31 but yeah Calinou is right only yaw is sent no pitch 15:56 est31 content_cao.cpp line 624 15:59 Calinou let's fix it 15:59 Calinou make the player impossible to look up/down 16:03 rubenwardy +1 16:05 DFeniks how do you separate stacks on android client? asking for a friend 16:10 crazyR est31: whats the chances of this working? https://gist.github.com/crazyR14/9beeb38bddfa8bd905e2 16:11 crazyR oh he's gone lol 16:11 bark1 I'm trying to make diamonds have a 50% chance of dropping when mining obsidian. I'm missing the last part of the code - the actual "spawn-item-command". Can anyone point me in a direction? (http://pb.rbfh.de/12zdKhhBObqss) 16:11 Calinou bark1, read the default:leaves code in games/minetest_game/mods/default/nodes.lua 16:12 Calinou it'd be copypasta, but it works :) 16:12 bark1 thanks for the advice! 16:12 sfan5 crazyR: thats hacky but will probably work 16:12 crazyR i know its hacky, just not sure of a better way of doing it. 16:13 sfan5 bark1: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L459-L473 16:16 crazyR sfan5: Do you know if there is there anyway i could do the same as above to the on_receive_fields() callback in nodes? 16:17 sfan5 crazyR: you mean also call newFunc instead of on_receive_fields on nodes? 16:18 crazyR yeah pretty much, Im just looking for a way that i can manipulate the feilds data before the function is called. but it has to work on all existing nodes/forms etc 16:23 sfan5 well you'd need to soft-depend on every mod and rewrite register_node the same way 16:26 crazyR hmm, that wont work in this situation but thanks. Gues il have to rethink this idea lol 16:43 rubenwardy Added loads more anchor links to http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/lua_api.html 16:43 rubenwardy much easy to pick a specific place 16:43 RealBadAngel DFeniks, tap an item with 2 fingers and split them 16:43 RealBadAngel not comfortable but works 16:50 E4xoi hai hai 16:50 E4xoi C++11 is kinda decent, like, compared to C++03 16:54 sfan5 rubenwardy: >no SSL 16:54 rubenwardy why would I need https://? I'm not a bank 16:55 sfan5 you're not? 16:55 sfan5 ok then 16:56 Ingar the more useless traffic has to be decrypted by the NSA the better 16:56 rubenwardy It's hosted by github pages, which doesn't support ssl anyway 16:56 Ingar :( 17:03 nrzkt rubenwardy, i can propose you to do a man in the middle on your page with a password and try it on all your accounts to see if it's same as FB, Twitter, etc :p 17:03 rubenwardy I have no logins at all 17:04 nrzkt are you sure you didn't have a login on github and the related mail address? 17:04 rubenwardy Yes, but I push using git 17:05 nrzkt which use ? an authentication :p 17:05 rubenwardy this is my website: https://github.com/rubenwardy/rubenwardy.github.io 17:05 nrzkt and if you are using SSH okay you have a key, but i can push on github using HTTP 17:05 nrzkt and then with your login/pwd 17:05 rubenwardy I use https:// to push to github 17:06 nrzkt okay then, but don't say you didn't need https :p 17:06 rubenwardy I don't need it on rubenwardy.com 17:06 rubenwardy I have zero public logins there 17:08 rubenwardy "I'm not a bank" was a bit of an exageration 17:21 Obani Calinou, crosshair with alpha is really nice looking on new Minetest dev versions :D 17:25 hoodedice https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck 17:32 who_wants_some whaat? 17:39 hoodedice auto corrects and inputs terminal command typos 17:39 RealBadAngel hehe, thats nice 17:39 hoodedice pressing up and then correcting is better IMO, but this is a nice party (workplace) trick 17:41 Krock hoodedice, what a lovely correction feature :D 17:41 hoodedice indeed 17:42 Krock most used word in the last week: fuck (50%) 17:44 Obani rubenwardy, I'm writing something on your ctf server, I hope you'll read it carrefully :) 17:45 Obani (not posted yet) 18:00 rubenwardy Yeah, just read the logs just now 18:00 rubenwardy up-to-date 18:09 cimbakahn Hello! 18:09 cimbakahn I am looking at this page, and i am confused ----> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall 18:09 cimbakahn I am looking for something in between the bare minimum install and the full install. And i want a graphical installer. Can anyone help? 18:09 cimbakahn Which download do i click on? I want the newest one, but NOT the daily build. 18:10 cimbakahn Sorry! Wrong room. 18:11 Krock Happens.. 18:12 Krock Daily is the newest build... 18:12 cimbakahn Yes. But daily means you'll get updates every single day so i don't want that one. 18:14 cimbakahn I wonder if you can get Wily without getting daily...... 18:14 Krock Dunno much about Linux but can't that update function be turned off? 18:17 Calinou cimbakahn, you can try Debian Xfce/LXDE, for a lightweight, yet graphical distribution 18:17 Calinou http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-testing-amd64-netinst.iso 18:17 Calinou (requires an Internet connection while installing) 18:17 Calinou it asks you for the desktop environment to install during the process, you can choose one or many 18:47 Obani rubenwardy, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13157&p=199089#p199089 18:56 rubenwardy seen it 18:56 rubenwardy thanks 18:56 Obani I would like to thank devs for their work on the new settings menu. It light be a bit complicated for newbies but is a very useful tool to customize MT client :D 18:56 rubenwardy replying 18:57 Obani rubenwardy, it's normal that you have problems on your server, as it's a new server 18:57 Krock new = problems, old = more problems? 18:58 Obani old = problems, ancient = depend of if its maintained :p 18:59 Obani on* 19:00 Obani rubenwardy, IMO, capture the flag would be really cool if it was looking like Planet Side a big map and many players scoring for their team and making strategy to approach base/defend their own 19:01 Obani afk 19:02 hoodedice > a big map and many players 19:02 hoodedice > minetest 19:02 hoodedice choose one 19:02 Calinou hi hoodedice 19:02 hoodedice ello 19:02 Calinou hoodedice, check out my game made using Godot: https://github.com/Veraball/veraball 19:03 hoodedice Calinou, second time 19:03 Calinou (I can make you a Windows export, if you want) 19:03 hoodedice pls 19:03 Calinou well I updated it quite a bit 19:03 hoodedice I'll bookmark it, and will ask cortana to remind me about it after my finals =D 19:04 microsoftshill hurr durr hey guys have you heard of continuum? 19:08 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13157&p=199093#p199093 19:08 rubenwardy Obani, 19:09 rubenwardy edited 19:11 sfan5 microsoftshill: no wat is that 19:12 microsoftshill hurr continuum is like the best thing evar 19:12 microsoftshill and it is totally not ripped off from ubuntu's convergence (it actually was developed at the same time) 19:13 microsoftshill you can use your phone as a PC by docking it with a Microsoft™ Dock 19:15 hoodedice mfw You have been temporarily banned due to nick-change flooding. You will be unbanned in 30 minutes. 19:15 hoodedice ##C pls 19:16 sfan5 lelele 19:16 Calinou hoodedice, https://up1.ca/#q0IYHG1B03giJ0ZzcYTJFA 19:16 Calinou 32-bit Windows binary. 19:16 Calinou please report to me, does it have an icon? 19:16 Calinou (the Veraball logo, being a circle with dotted line) 19:16 Calinou and can you run it? 19:16 Calinou (I use export templates from http://fixnum.org/godot) 19:18 hoodedice displays no logo, app displays godot logo in title bar, and everything is grey 19:19 Calinou good to know :s 19:19 hoodedice tl;dr doesn't work 19:20 Krock hoodedice, the long explanation is better than the tl;dr version in this case ;) 19:20 Calinou hope it will work with stable 2.0 templates, when they will be released 19:20 Krock At least if someone tries to fix the bugs 19:21 hoodedice Krock, my actual bug reports tend to be quite long =D 19:21 hoodedice but this isn't ##veraball 19:21 Krock hoodedice, yeah, sure. a novel isn't needed 19:21 Calinou I don't have an IRC channel (yet?) 19:22 Krock Let's open it: #calinou 19:22 Calinou the game is in its early states, I started ~12 days ago 19:23 hoodedice Krock, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1039 19:23 hoodedice or https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1191 19:24 hoodedice I'm busy, if you get me after the finals, I might even pop open VS and try to debug it :P /s 19:26 * sfan5 debugs hoodedice 19:27 hoodedice Segmentation Fault (core dumped) 19:30 Krock rofl 19:32 hoodedice something funny I just thought up: Fragmentation fault (FAT12 dumped) 19:33 Obani rubenwardy, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13157&p=199101#p199101 19:36 rubenwardy replied https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=199102#p199102 19:47 Yepoleb Calinou: I'm playing it, the first level is really hard 19:48 who_wants_some Javascript is required to view and upload files. 19:48 who_wants_some oh come on 19:49 Calinou Yepoleb, you can jump using Space bar 19:50 Krock move forward, using W 19:51 Calinou W, Z, Up arrow all work 19:51 Calinou (so that AZERTY keyboards can play too) 19:51 Krock depends on settings 19:52 Calinou Krock, Godot isn't supposed to work on Windows XP :p 19:53 Yepoleb Calinou: It took me about 15 tries to finish the first level, most players would have quit already 19:54 Krock I don't give a shit about that, Calinou 19:55 Yepoleb Calinou: Make sure the player can do it in less than 3 tries, or he will get frustrated 19:55 Calinou Yepoleb, the levels will heavily change anyway in the future :P 19:56 Yepoleb Yeah, just make sure the first levels are easy, so the player can gain confidence 19:57 Calinou there will be level packs too, probably 20:19 who_wants_some VanessaE, you here? 20:20 who_wants_some VanessaE, I've noticed that some signs on your servers are backwards 20:27 JohnnyComeL8ly who_wants_some, no, they're just partly translated Hebrew.... 20:28 Obani rubenwardy, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13157&p=199108#p199108 20:32 JohnnyComeL8ly who_wants_some, OR, it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boustrophedon 20:33 * JohnnyComeL8ly is going to LinuxGaming 20:52 blaise Hello? 20:53 blaise wtf, I thought I authed via nickserv 20:53 blaise gah damnah 20:53 blaise oh wait, I guess I did 20:53 blaise is anyone here online? 20:53 blaise what's up with mobs? what's the laitest craze? 20:53 blaise anyone? 20:54 blaise Herro? 20:58 Yepoleb blaise: hi 20:58 blaise Yepoleb: hello! 20:59 blaise hey so like... 20:59 blaise I think mobf and/or animals mod pack is broken with >=minetest-0.4.12 20:59 blaise definitly not working with minetest-0.4.13 20:59 Yepoleb Calinou: I just tried the second level and the coin sparkes are awesome 20:59 blaise anyone know anything about that? 21:00 hoodedice can you please try to type everything in one message? Thanks 21:02 blaise hoodedice: I'm afraid that's impossible as I don't know what I'm going to type on the next line.. that's what the carriage return key is for.. to end the line 21:03 hoodedice hey so like... I think mobf and/or animals mod pack is broken with >=minetest-0.4.12, and definitly not working with minetest-0.4.13 21:03 hoodedice there you go. 21:03 blaise hoodedice: if you don't like people, you could always change your irc client to block people that send more than 5 lines in 30 seconds 21:04 blaise viola 21:04 hoodedice okay then. 21:04 hoodedice !next 21:04 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 21:04 blaise :D 21:05 Yepoleb blaise: i can't do that on my client 21:07 blaise so now that I've been harrassed by hoodedice for my carriage return key abuse.. would anyone happen to know if animals modpack 2.4.2 works with minetest-0.4.13 ? 21:07 hoodedice > harassed 21:08 blaise s/harrassed/harassed/herassedded/ 21:08 Yepoleb what? 21:08 hoodedice sfan5, whatever happened to auto-kicking for flooding? Was that a shadowbot feature> 21:09 sfan5 hoodedice: yes 21:09 hoodedice you disappoint me 21:09 blaise Yepoleb: the functionality I refer to is available in all irc clients.. 21:09 blaise hoodedice: who, me? 21:09 hoodedice no, sfan 21:09 Yepoleb blaise: pls teach me 21:09 hoodedice blaise, it is also available in all channels 21:10 hoodedice it is called "tell chanop that someone is flooding" 21:10 blaise Yepoleb: I'm afraid I don't have time to show you how to use your irc client.. please refer to the documentation... 21:10 blaise Yepoleb: http://www.quassel-irc.org/ 21:11 Yepoleb blaise: can't find it 21:12 blaise hoodedice: so, you have no idea towards the functionality of animals-modpack-2.4.2 in minetest-0.4.13 ? 21:12 hoodedice no 21:12 hoodedice if I did, I would've told you 21:13 blaise interesting, thanks 21:15 Yepoleb blaise: have you looked at the forums post? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=629 21:17 cimbakahn Can you install Minetest on GhostBSD 10.1 MATE? 21:18 cimbakahn Here it is on Distrowatch ------> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ghostbsd 21:20 Yepoleb cimbakahn: if it's based on freebsd it should work 21:20 Yepoleb check out the download page for instructions http://www.minetest.net/downloads/ 21:20 cimbakahn Let me look. 21:21 cimbakahn Based on: FreeBSD Yep! It is! 21:23 cimbakahn Oh my gosh! I hope i don't have to compile it. I have never compiled a package before. 21:25 Yepoleb cimbakahn: you use bsd and are scared of compiling? 21:25 cimbakahn Ok. There is a pkg method. Phew! pkg install minetest minetest_game 21:26 cimbakahn I do not use bsd. I am thinking about installing it. That is why i asked in the first place. 21:26 cimbakahn I am currently using LXLE. 21:27 cimbakahn This is what i am using ------> http://lxle.net/ 21:28 cimbakahn This is what i'm thinking about installing ----> http://www.ghostbsd.org/ 21:29 blaise lmao 21:30 Yepoleb cimbakahn: stick with ubuntu until you're comfortable compiling 21:30 blaise maybe you should stay away from bsd till you're more comfortable with handeling source code.. 21:30 cimbakahn I have been using linux for over a year now. Previously i have used Debian and Debian/Ubuntu based distros. 21:31 blaise seriously, if you're scared to compile code yourself you might have a bad time with bsd 21:31 blaise minetest is actually pretty trivial to compile 21:31 Yepoleb cimbakahn: do you have a richard stallman beard? 21:31 cimbakahn If they have enough programs to make me comfortable, why not try it? 21:31 cimbakahn HAHAHA! No! 21:32 cimbakahn I am a 53 Y.O. female. 21:33 Yepoleb cimbakahn: everything's possible if you believe in yourself 21:34 cimbakahn I remember the days when i was skittish about trying linux. It took me 8 months to make up my mind if i was going to do it or not. 21:35 cimbakahn Now, i don't know how i can live without a Linux OS. I could never have as much fun with Windows. 21:36 cimbakahn Sometimes change is necessary for a persons growth. Wouldn't you agree? 21:38 Yepoleb cimbakahn: idk, i'm fine with using the stuff that works 21:40 cimbakahn Me too! But sometimes i like to check out other distros. Never know, i might find something i like better than LinuxMint. 21:56 Calinou Calinou: I just tried the second level and the coin sparkes are awesome 21:56 Calinou yeah, Godot has a powerful particle system 21:56 Calinou but they can't collide with the world (fade when touching, bounce, stick to surfaces…) 21:58 everamzah do sid 21:58 everamzah cimbakahn 21:58 cimbakahn Yes! 21:58 cimbakahn sid? 21:59 everamzah yea its debian but anything else is fun, i agree. even to break it! 21:59 everamzah sid motto is when you break it, you get to keep all the pieces, or something.. 21:59 everamzah but i tried openbsd before, i really liked that one 22:00 cimbakahn I see. 22:01 everamzah https://www.debian.org/releases/sid/ 22:02 Yepoleb everamzah: sid is pretty stable, i rarely have problems with it 22:02 cimbakahn I have been checking out these videos ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY1AYQdO54o http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x39k2bz 22:02 cimbakahn I am looking at it now. 22:03 everamzah i guess you get the devel installer, and then change repo target to sid or unstable and dist-upgrade 22:03 everamzah but maybe that's not the proper procedure 22:04 everamzah https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ 22:04 Yepoleb Calinou: Something else i noticed was that some surfaces are completely black. Can you add a second lightsource that's only provides a minimum amount of light? 22:05 cimbakahn It looks a little chancey. 22:05 Yepoleb I always got the latest testing iso and upgraded from there 22:05 everamzah it can be, but it's calmer now that some time has passed since jessie's release, from what i understand 22:05 everamzah ok yea, that's the only way i ever knew how to do it 22:05 Yepoleb I don't think there are sid images 22:07 cimbakahn Lately i have been looking for distros that are very new but stable. 22:07 * thePalindrome uses gentoo, but that's mainly compiling :P 22:07 Calinou Yepoleb, there's a small ambient light 22:07 Calinou if your screen is too dark/has bad contrast, you may not notice it 22:07 everamzah you can't have your cake and eat it, too 22:08 everamzah always wanted to say that 22:08 thePalindrome But... cake D: 22:08 Yepoleb it doesn't even make sense 22:09 Yepoleb why can't i eat my own cake? 22:11 Yepoleb Calinou: on fullscreen i can barely see it 22:12 everamzah i was remarking on the stability of new software, if that's what you meant by new distros. if it's new software, it may not be as tested or stable. 22:12 everamzah i just thought.. hehe 22:13 Calinou Fedora is known to be pretty robust, yet it has recent software 22:18 everamzah they're pretty cool 22:18 everamzah probably pretty motivated 22:18 everamzah i liked arch wiki 22:18 everamzah like* 22:19 thePalindrome Fedora is the "testing" version of RHEL 22:20 everamzah but from what i see there's testing or preview releases of fedora, so it's like testing-testing 22:21 thePalindrome yeah, rawhide is basically sid 22:26 Calinou I should upgrade to 23, I'm still on 22 22:26 * thePalindrome doesn't use Fedora anymore, because systemd 22:33 Calinou rubenwardy, https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/issues/7 -> 8 is too much I'd say 22:33 Calinou try 5, and 2 for crouch 22:33 Calinou keep acceleration to their default values 22:36 rubenwardy thanks 22:38 cimbakahn Sorry! I got busy. See you later. 22:49 who_wants_some ohohoho... 23:03 Calinou http://www.gimp.org/ was remade!! 23:03 thePalindrome Reminds me of the blender website 23:03 Calinou and 2.8.14 23:03 Calinou 2.8.16*