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luizrpgluiz |
someone could use the ncurses minetest using the repository est31? |
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sloantothebone |
hi |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Hello, sloan. |
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luizrpgluiz |
sloantothebone: hi |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
What a unique nick, sloantothebone. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Care to elaborate on its origin? |
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sloantothebone |
ikr |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
You can't remember? |
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sloantothebone |
I named myself sloan after luther sloan from star trek ds9 then I came up with sloantothebone |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Cool. |
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sloantothebone |
originally it was sloantothebonehimself |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
That is a mouthful. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Charlie is the booze.... |
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sloantothebone |
Who? |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
You know who.... ;-) |
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MrIbby |
It appears the wiki is even more broken ^^' |
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MrIbby |
I'll wait a bit and see if it starts working again... |
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Krock |
hi |
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Calinou |
http://opengameart.org/content/3-seamless-grass-textures |
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Ingar |
ifo nly grass sounds where as easy to make |
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Calinou |
Ingar, how much did your recording hardware cost? |
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Megaf |
Hi all |
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CraigyDavi |
hello |
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Megaf |
o/ |
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Megaf |
cmake ../Minetest -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DBUILD_SERVER=0 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=0 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=0 -DENABLE_REDIS=0 -DENABLE_CURL=0 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=MinSizeRel -DENABLE_SOUND=0 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=0 -DENABLE_LUAJIT=0 |
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Megaf |
what else can I disable for a very minimal client? |
| 12:29 |
Megaf |
By the way I'm listening to this cool radio, http://stream-dc1.radioparadise.com/rp_192m.ogg |
| 12:29 |
Megaf |
it's Radio Paradise, good quality streaming and good music |
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Megaf |
and ogg |
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Megaf |
"Ogg Vorbis is an open-source streaming format that offers better performance than MP3. The sound of our 96k Ogg stream compares favorably to even our 192k MP3 stream, and our new 192k Ogg stream sounds even better." |
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Calinou |
not Opus :( |
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Calinou |
or FLAC |
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Megaf |
unfortunetely not |
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Megaf |
I have been listening to some FLAC radios, but they music style is not very good |
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Megaf |
Calinou: are you audophile? |
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Calinou |
no |
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Megaf |
oh, ok =/ |
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Calinou |
I use €20 headset and integrated sound card |
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Megaf |
well, I'm not sure if I am or not, but I do anjoy some high quality audio |
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Calinou |
good enoughâ„¢ |
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Megaf |
I buy headsets by their frequency response |
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Calinou |
the only times where I notice bad quality sound is when playing Quake with the original sounds |
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Calinou |
but I use HD sound pack now :) |
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Megaf |
heh |
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Megaf |
Calinou: if you like Open Source, you might like to know that 100% of the software running here in this netbook is OpenSource, no blobs at all |
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Megaf |
using gNewSense GNU/Linux and Linux Libre kernel |
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Calinou |
cool :) |
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Megaf |
Calinou: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Megaf/9907f2121e37e71e3eaa/raw/0c6642ff99cdbacaf26aea3150ad21daca16378b/gistfile1.txt |
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Megaf |
I like the memory use if this thing ^ |
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Calinou |
well, it's 2011 operating system |
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Megaf |
latest kernel tho |
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Calinou |
you also have only 1 GB of RAM |
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Calinou |
if you had 8, the system would use more |
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Megaf |
I might remove gNewSense from here soon and install latest Debian with MATE and same Libre Kernel |
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Megaf |
install only the main packages from Debian, without contrib and non-free, to compare performance and resourses use |
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Calinou |
use Debian testing :P |
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Megaf |
that would be interesting |
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Calinou |
<Megaf> Celeron M ULV at 900 MHz at the moment, 630 MHz most of the time |
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* Calinou |
laughs from his i7-2600K and i7-4720HQ |
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Megaf |
lol |
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Megaf |
well, in my home country I have a Phenom II X4 Black Edition at 3,2 GHz, that thing is fast |
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Calinou |
"fast" |
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Calinou |
to me, only an i7-6700K is fast, but that thing is €430 :) |
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Calinou |
same thing in laptops, Skylake costs too much |
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Calinou |
so I stuck with Haswell with my new laptop |
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* Krock2 |
laughts about Calinou with his (currently) 800 MHz clocked Athlon 64 4000+ |
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Megaf |
My not sure what my next CPU will be, I'm quite curious about the new AMD ZEN |
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Calinou |
AMD CPU is dead... |
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Megaf |
I don't know what happened with AMD |
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Megaf |
they had some great CPUs, like the K6-2, Athon 64 and Phenon II |
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Megaf |
and then they stopped doing good stuff |
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luizrpgluiz |
if someone has the tox chat, I can pass my contact if someone wants to talk |
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Krock |
luizrpgluiz, I want to talk. About the color of the clouds at a specific air humidity |
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Krock |
I think this will be a good 3.5 hour discussion |
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luizrpgluiz |
Krock: xD |
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Telesight |
Hello all, I compiled a run_in_place minetestserver, but I get no writing to debug.txt, where can I set this? |
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ElectronLibre |
Are you sure the server is writing in the good debug.txt file? Usually debug.txt is either in ~/.minetest or in the current work dir. You can still use --log <path to logfile> to force the logging to a specific file. |
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luizrpgluiz |
that strange, here in linux Manjaro I'm not having this problem |
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Telesight |
ElectronLibre: I will try to force it ... |
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ElectronLibre |
If you run a minetestserver, specifying a log file is always a good idea. |
| 14:17 |
ElectronLibre |
Just to be 100% sure the logs will end up where you expect them to end up. |
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Telesight |
Yep, moment I will try ... |
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luizrpgluiz |
someone used the est31 version with ncurses and succeeded? |
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Telesight |
ElectronLibre: can I set the log ssetting in minetest.conf ? |
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ElectronLibre |
I don't think so. |
| 14:38 |
ElectronLibre |
luizrpgluiz: I succeeded to execute most of the commands I usually use (/set, /time, /say, /shutdown). So far it works as expected. |
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Telesight |
I use systemd as startup, but I do get an failure. The server is not starting up at all |
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ElectronLibre |
Telesight, what is the command you passed to systemd for starting the server? |
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technics |
huhu :) are there any mod, to grant the player notes on their nicknames like "technics [i'm afk...]"? |
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ElectronLibre |
There is no API to change the nametag's text as far as I know. |
| 14:44 |
ElectronLibre |
You can change its color (RGBA) but not its text (yet). |
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Telesight |
I have made minetest.service with : [Service] |
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Telesight |
User=telesight |
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Telesight |
ExecStart=/home/telesight/minetest/bin/minetestserver --config /home/telesight/minetest/minetest.conf --map-dir /home/telesight/minetest/worlds/world |
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technics |
ElectronLibre, thanks for this information :) |
| 14:48 |
ElectronLibre |
Telesight: Did you enable that service file? What happens if you start it manually using systemctl? |
| 14:50 |
Telesight |
This service (the way it is written) works. It is started with minetest.timer. But I do not know where to force log setting ... |
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ElectronLibre |
Just add "--log /home/telesight/minetest/serverlogs.txt", for example, at the end of the command in ExecStart. |
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Telesight |
if I add --log /path I get an failure |
| 14:51 |
Telesight |
I will try again ... |
| 14:52 |
ElectronLibre |
What kind of failure? |
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Telesight |
(code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) |
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Telesight |
Main PID: 9941 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) |
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ElectronLibre |
See what journaltcl has to say about that. |
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ElectronLibre |
s/journaltcl/journalctl |
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Telesight |
ERROR[main]: Unknown command-line parameter "--log" |
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ElectronLibre |
Oh. |
| 15:01 |
Telesight |
must this not be logfile ? |
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ElectronLibre |
Oh my, it's --logfile, sorry. |
| 15:02 |
Telesight |
let us try again ;-) |
| 15:02 |
ElectronLibre |
I always mistake it with --config which doesn't contain the word "file". |
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Telesight |
He starts up, no failure, but also no serverlogs.txt |
| 15:07 |
ElectronLibre |
It might be because you start it with a service, the logs probably end up somewhere in /var/log. |
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Telesight |
moment I check |
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Telesight |
not found ... |
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ElectronLibre |
Maybe try to create the file by yourself and restart the server. |
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Telesight |
tok |
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Telesight |
-t |
| 15:23 |
Telesight |
It is created ! |
| 15:23 |
Telesight |
I looked with Filezilla, but it was not shown ;-( |
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ElectronLibre |
So the output is logged in that file? |
| 15:24 |
Telesight |
I changed the logfile to debug.txt (like everybody uses) |
| 15:24 |
Telesight |
Yes |
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ElectronLibre |
Good. |
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Telesight |
I will login and check if it is written |
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Telesight |
YEs there is debug info ... |
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Telesight |
Great, thank you very much ... |
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MinetestBot |
[git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix Noise compiled under clang >= 3.7.x with -O2 or higher d198e42 http://git.io/vl8wD (2015-11-01T11:16:18-05:00) |
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kaeza |
o/ |
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Krock |
\o/ |
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Krock |
Out`Of`Control, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14gIX3bX8Vw |
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Out`Of`Control |
Krock: lol |
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est31 |
that's your box? |
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est31 |
man dude next you tell me you use IIS as web server |
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Krock |
Yes, experimental Lua implementation as a CGI application |
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Krock |
That's not IIS, it's nginx |
| 18:23 |
est31 |
and all running on winxp ?! lets hope you dont get hacked |
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est31 |
most people on this channel are nice though. |
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Krock |
A testing server, you know. |
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Krock |
The [off] tag is quite efficient when crazy nerds search hackable home servers |
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est31 |
? |
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Krock |
...nvm |
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Out`Of`Control |
poor est31 |
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Krock |
poor as in 'no money'? |
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Out`Of`Control |
no |
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Out`Of`Control |
poor as in silly |
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est31 |
are you silly because you tell that winxp connected to internet is insecure? |
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Out`Of`Control |
est31: no |
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Out`Of`Control |
windows connected to internet is insecure |
| 18:30 |
Krock |
why then? |
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Out`Of`Control |
Hahaha |
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Krock |
lol |
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Krock |
air conditioning system confirmed |
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Krock |
That's what Microsoft produces. Open a window and it stops working |
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Out`Of`Control |
:D |
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est31 |
lol |
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fireglow |
!seen LemonLake |
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MinetestBot |
fireglow: lemonlake was last seen at 2014-12-20 12:00:34 UTC on #minetest |
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MinetestBot |
[git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix Lua scripting synchronization 52e5b51 http://git.io/vl4Cf (2015-11-01T11:32:05-05:00) |
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Krock |
!seen fireglow |
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MinetestBot |
Krock: fireglow was last seen at 2015-11-01 18:42:51 UTC on #minetest |
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fireglow |
sup |
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Krock |
dunno |
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fireglow |
word |
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Krock |
wat |
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fireglow |
ah, found a card mod with detector rail, cheers SmallJoker |
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fireglow |
!seen SmallJoker |
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MinetestBot |
fireglow: Sorry, I haven't seen smalljoker around. |
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fireglow |
gg |
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Krock |
.. |
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fireglow |
wot you dotting, m8? |
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Krock |
MinetestBot: alias add Krock SmallJoker |
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Calinou |
… |
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Krock |
…… |
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fireglow |
more dots |
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Calinou |
â‹…â‹…â‹… |
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Krock |
¨¨ |
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fireglow |
ok, slow dots |
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fireglow |
slow dots |
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Calinou |
‑–—–‑ |
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PilzAdam |
Krock, you don't have to worry about people searching servers to attack in IRC logs |
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Krock |
PilzAdam, yes. I believe that's true |
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PilzAdam |
and you response header doesn't seem to contain anything suspicious, so you should be safe for now |
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fireglow |
oh noes, boost_cart errors |
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Krock |
The webserver does not support errors yet. |
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fireglow |
gotta find that smalljoker dude |
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Krock |
<Krock>MinetestBot: alias add Krock SmallJoker |
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Krock |
<.< |
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fireglow |
:> |
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Krock |
so, what's the error? Pastebin please |
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fireglow |
https://pastee.org/7d8an gimme a sec, trying to find out exactly when it happens |
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Krock |
That's not an error |
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fireglow |
could be, could be, man |
| 19:10 |
Krock |
https://github.com/SmallJoker/boost_cart/commit/1b53eb |
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Krock |
^ fireglow, that fixes it |
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fireglow |
cheers lad, good on ya |
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Krock |
^^ |
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srakitnican |
Hello, just installed Fedora 23 and I am trying out Minetest in Wayland |
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srakitnican |
*upgraded |
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srakitnican |
and I have a problem |
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srakitnican |
mouse pointer kepps going in direction is pointing at, like in android game |
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srakitnican |
but I am on desktop |
| 19:19 |
srakitnican |
don't know where to look at |
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LazyJ |
srakitnican, auto-forward was recently added to Minetest. Perhaps that has been enabled? |
| 19:21 |
Calinou |
can you make a screencast? eg. using SimpleScreenRecorder: http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/ |
| 19:21 |
Calinou |
you can upload the result to https://imgrush.com (up to 50 MB) |
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srakitnican |
it's minetest 0.4.12 |
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srakitnican |
and it work fine on xorg |
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LazyJ |
Ah. Well, auto-forward was the only thing I could think of. |
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srakitnican |
I will try |
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srakitnican |
Or I can describe, if mouse pointer is in the middle of window cross is not moving anywhere, as soon as I move mouse it starts moving in that direction and never stops |
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semirocket |
yeah recording might be difficult on wayland, ebverything crashes lol |
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FreeFull |
srakitnican: Wayland doesn't have pointer warping or pointer locking |
| 19:44 |
FreeFull |
srakitnican: So no game that relies on it will work |
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FreeFull |
This rules out any game with a first-person perspective for example |
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Calinou |
is that planned? |
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Calinou |
how are they going to fix it? |
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srakitnican |
so this is a known issue, ok thanks :) |
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srakitnican |
I am amazed actually that it runs on wayland :D |
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srakitnican |
Here is a short video of what was I talking about for anyone interested: https://imgrush.com/8GBH6QxmzVx1 |
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ADFENO |
??? |
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srakitnican |
minetest on wayland :p |
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ADFENO |
Ah.... |
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ADFENO |
Wow! Buggy... :D |
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srakitnican |
surprisingly everything seems to work fine except mouse pointer control |
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Out`Of`Control |
5 fps? |
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srakitnican |
no that's camera phone |
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srakitnican |
fps is fine |
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ADFENO |
Ah! D |
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ADFENO |
So it's just the mouse.. |
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srakitnican |
yeah |
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rubenwardy |
srakitnican, your computer is weird |
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rubenwardy |
It'll be because of this code: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/game.cpp#L1847-L1850 |
| 20:27 |
rubenwardy |
You computer either has floating point inaccuracies, or the cursor isn't being grabbed correctly |
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rubenwardy |
would you be able to build Minetest your self, so I can put a print statement there to debug it? |
| 20:29 |
srakitnican |
I can try |
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rubenwardy |
do you have aptitude? |
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srakitnican |
I am on fedora 23 so dnf |
| 20:30 |
srakitnican |
http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest |
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Calinou |
I'm on Fedora 22, Fedora 23 release is in 1 week... |
| 20:30 |
srakitnican |
follow this? |
| 20:30 |
Calinou |
hope it won't break everything |
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rubenwardy |
yeah |
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srakitnican |
Fedora 23 release on 3rd |
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srakitnican |
I did dnf system-upgrade --releasever=23 |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Uberi -> Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix #93 (thanks @za267!) https:/ http://git.io/vlBmt (2015-11-01T16:50:36-05:00) |
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[git] celeron55 -> minetest/minetest: Print direct command line responses to standard output instead of using the log system 3285bf7 http://git.io/vlBGI (2015-11-02T00:11:20+02:00) |
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Megaf_ |
Hi all, finally back |
| 22:14 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Oh, yeah, Megaf is back! |
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Megaf_ |
o/ |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
;-) |
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Megaf_ |
Now I'm impressed |
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Megaf_ |
so, gNewSense 3 from years ago runnign GNOME uses the very same amount of RAM that Debian Sid using MATE uses today |
| 22:28 |
Megaf_ |
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Megaf/98157d55502211cd4f75/raw/848e10c7bb36e942ed75c5e75a9edba1163e1ec9/gistfile1.txt |
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Megaf_ |
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Megaf/9907f2121e37e71e3eaa/raw/fcd055a8c71d64253e94361772255de020fa4894/gistfile1.txt |
| 22:32 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Megaf_: Idk what is meant by this... I do know that I'm disappointed with the progress of gNewSense, for it has a really old software included in the ISO which one downloads |
| 22:33 |
Megaf_ |
JohnnyComeL8ly: it works well, as well, if not better than Debian Squeeze |
| 22:33 |
Megaf_ |
but it is outdated yes |
| 22:33 |
Megaf_ |
they should keep doing the stuff |
| 22:34 |
Megaf_ |
and they could use the Linux Libre Kernel |
| 22:34 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I think they kinda let it go... Trisquel is what RMS uses now. |
| 22:35 |
Megaf_ |
I'm not using Trisquel, still based on Ubuntu |
| 22:36 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
No, it is based on debian... afaIk. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Megaf_: I made a mistake... it is based on Ubuntu. But, RMS and FSF/GNU support it, so why are you against it? |
| 22:51 |
Megaf_ |
lack of quality and testing |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
So, you use gNewSense? |
| 22:57 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Megaf_: ^^ |
| 22:58 |
Megaf_ |
JohnnyComeL8ly: used for half a day :) |
| 22:58 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
What do you use now? |
| 23:00 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Megaf_: ^^ (I should just remember to place this before I send the msg....) :-P |
| 23:00 |
Megaf_ |
what I had been using, Debian |
| 23:00 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Megaf_: And that is completely free? |
| 23:01 |
Megaf_ |
almost, on Debina you can choose what repos from it you want, they have main, contrib and non-free |
| 23:02 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Megaf_: From what I understand... the distro doesn't cut the mustard for FSF because they still have repositories which contain non-free software. |
| 23:02 |
Megaf_ |
main is only Open Source, but I think the kernel itself does have some binary firmware or something |
| 23:02 |
Megaf_ |
Im using only main on this netbook |
| 23:03 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Psych! lol we said a verbatim statement. |
| 23:24 |
Megaf_ |
JohnnyComeL8ly: I don't get it |
| 23:25 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
The statemenst at 17:01:51 and 17:02:04 are very similar. |
| 23:26 |
Megaf_ |
yep :) |
