Time Nick Message 00:48 JohnnyComeL8ly I've been done with the spaghetti eating... just have been busy elsewhere. 01:14 luizrpgluiz someone could use the ncurses minetest using the repository est31? 01:32 sloantothebone hi 01:33 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, sloan. 01:34 luizrpgluiz sloantothebone: hi 01:34 JohnnyComeL8ly What a unique nick, sloantothebone. 01:34 JohnnyComeL8ly Care to elaborate on its origin? 01:34 sloantothebone ikr 01:35 JohnnyComeL8ly You can't remember? 01:36 sloantothebone I named myself sloan after luther sloan from star trek ds9 then I came up with sloantothebone 01:36 JohnnyComeL8ly Cool. 01:36 sloantothebone originally it was sloantothebonehimself 01:43 JohnnyComeL8ly That is a mouthful. 02:08 JohnnyComeL8ly Charlie is the booze.... 02:23 sloantothebone Who? 02:23 JohnnyComeL8ly You know who.... ;-) 05:07 MrIbby It appears the wiki is even more broken ^^' 05:11 MrIbby I'll wait a bit and see if it starts working again... 08:32 Krock hi 11:24 Calinou http://opengameart.org/content/3-seamless-grass-textures 11:44 Ingar ifo nly grass sounds where as easy to make 11:46 Calinou Ingar, how much did your recording hardware cost? 12:10 Megaf Hi all 12:23 CraigyDavi hello 12:27 Megaf o/ 12:27 Megaf cmake ../Minetest -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DBUILD_SERVER=0 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=0 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=0 -DENABLE_REDIS=0 -DENABLE_CURL=0 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=MinSizeRel -DENABLE_SOUND=0 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=0 -DENABLE_LUAJIT=0 12:27 Megaf what else can I disable for a very minimal client? 12:29 Megaf By the way I'm listening to this cool radio, http://stream-dc1.radioparadise.com/rp_192m.ogg 12:29 Megaf it's Radio Paradise, good quality streaming and good music 12:29 Megaf and ogg 12:29 Megaf "Ogg Vorbis is an open-source streaming format that offers better performance than MP3. The sound of our 96k Ogg stream compares favorably to even our 192k MP3 stream, and our new 192k Ogg stream sounds even better." 12:39 Calinou not Opus :( 12:39 Calinou or FLAC 12:40 Megaf unfortunetely not 12:40 Megaf I have been listening to some FLAC radios, but they music style is not very good 12:40 Megaf Calinou: are you audophile? 12:42 Calinou no 12:42 Megaf oh, ok =/ 12:42 Calinou I use €20 headset and integrated sound card 12:42 Megaf well, I'm not sure if I am or not, but I do anjoy some high quality audio 12:43 Calinou good enough™ 12:43 Megaf I buy headsets by their frequency response 12:43 Calinou the only times where I notice bad quality sound is when playing Quake with the original sounds 12:43 Calinou but I use HD sound pack now :) 12:43 Megaf heh 12:56 Megaf Calinou: if you like Open Source, you might like to know that 100% of the software running here in this netbook is OpenSource, no blobs at all 12:56 Megaf using gNewSense GNU/Linux and Linux Libre kernel 12:57 Calinou cool :) 12:58 Megaf Calinou: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Megaf/9907f2121e37e71e3eaa/raw/0c6642ff99cdbacaf26aea3150ad21daca16378b/gistfile1.txt 12:58 Megaf I like the memory use if this thing ^ 12:58 Calinou well, it's 2011 operating system 12:58 Megaf latest kernel tho 12:58 Calinou you also have only 1 GB of RAM 12:58 Calinou if you had 8, the system would use more 12:59 Megaf I might remove gNewSense from here soon and install latest Debian with MATE and same Libre Kernel 13:00 Megaf install only the main packages from Debian, without contrib and non-free, to compare performance and resourses use 13:01 Calinou use Debian testing :P 13:02 Megaf that would be interesting 13:14 Calinou Celeron M ULV at 900 MHz at the moment, 630 MHz most of the time 13:14 * Calinou laughs from his i7-2600K and i7-4720HQ 13:15 Megaf lol 13:15 Megaf well, in my home country I have a Phenom II X4 Black Edition at 3,2 GHz, that thing is fast 13:16 Calinou "fast" 13:16 Calinou to me, only an i7-6700K is fast, but that thing is €430 :) 13:17 Calinou same thing in laptops, Skylake costs too much 13:17 Calinou so I stuck with Haswell with my new laptop 13:17 * Krock2 laughts about Calinou with his (currently) 800 MHz clocked Athlon 64 4000+ 13:18 Megaf My not sure what my next CPU will be, I'm quite curious about the new AMD ZEN 13:18 Calinou AMD CPU is dead... 13:19 Megaf I don't know what happened with AMD 13:19 Megaf they had some great CPUs, like the K6-2, Athon 64 and Phenon II 13:21 Megaf and then they stopped doing good stuff 13:47 luizrpgluiz if someone has the tox chat, I can pass my contact if someone wants to talk 13:54 Krock luizrpgluiz, I want to talk. About the color of the clouds at a specific air humidity 13:54 Krock I think this will be a good 3.5 hour discussion 13:57 luizrpgluiz Krock: xD 14:02 Telesight Hello all, I compiled a run_in_place minetestserver, but I get no writing to debug.txt, where can I set this? 14:10 ElectronLibre Are you sure the server is writing in the good debug.txt file? Usually debug.txt is either in ~/.minetest or in the current work dir. You can still use --log to force the logging to a specific file. 14:14 luizrpgluiz that strange, here in linux Manjaro I'm not having this problem 14:16 Telesight ElectronLibre: I will try to force it ... 14:16 ElectronLibre If you run a minetestserver, specifying a log file is always a good idea. 14:17 ElectronLibre Just to be 100% sure the logs will end up where you expect them to end up. 14:18 Telesight Yep, moment I will try ... 14:33 luizrpgluiz someone used the est31 version with ncurses and succeeded? 14:37 Telesight ElectronLibre: can I set the log ssetting in minetest.conf ? 14:37 ElectronLibre I don't think so. 14:38 ElectronLibre luizrpgluiz: I succeeded to execute most of the commands I usually use (/set, /time, /say, /shutdown). So far it works as expected. 14:38 Telesight I use systemd as startup, but I do get an failure. The server is not starting up at all 14:41 ElectronLibre Telesight, what is the command you passed to systemd for starting the server? 14:42 technics huhu :) are there any mod, to grant the player notes on their nicknames like "technics [i'm afk...]"? 14:43 ElectronLibre There is no API to change the nametag's text as far as I know. 14:44 ElectronLibre You can change its color (RGBA) but not its text (yet). 14:44 Telesight I have made minetest.service with : [Service] 14:44 Telesight User=telesight 14:45 Telesight ExecStart=/home/telesight/minetest/bin/minetestserver --config /home/telesight/minetest/minetest.conf --map-dir /home/telesight/minetest/worlds/world 14:46 technics ElectronLibre, thanks for this information :) 14:48 ElectronLibre Telesight: Did you enable that service file? What happens if you start it manually using systemctl? 14:50 Telesight This service (the way it is written) works. It is started with minetest.timer. But I do not know where to force log setting ... 14:51 ElectronLibre Just add "--log /home/telesight/minetest/serverlogs.txt", for example, at the end of the command in ExecStart. 14:51 Telesight if I add --log /path I get an failure 14:51 Telesight I will try again ... 14:52 ElectronLibre What kind of failure? 14:54 Telesight (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) 14:54 Telesight Main PID: 9941 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) 14:56 ElectronLibre See what journaltcl has to say about that. 14:56 ElectronLibre s/journaltcl/journalctl 15:01 Telesight ERROR[main]: Unknown command-line parameter "--log" 15:01 ElectronLibre Oh. 15:01 Telesight must this not be logfile ? 15:01 ElectronLibre Oh my, it's --logfile, sorry. 15:02 Telesight let us try again ;-) 15:02 ElectronLibre I always mistake it with --config which doesn't contain the word "file". 15:06 Telesight He starts up, no failure, but also no serverlogs.txt 15:07 ElectronLibre It might be because you start it with a service, the logs probably end up somewhere in /var/log. 15:07 Telesight moment I check 15:10 Telesight not found ... 15:11 ElectronLibre Maybe try to create the file by yourself and restart the server. 15:13 Telesight tok 15:14 Telesight -t 15:23 Telesight It is created ! 15:23 Telesight I looked with Filezilla, but it was not shown ;-( 15:24 ElectronLibre So the output is logged in that file? 15:24 Telesight I changed the logfile to debug.txt (like everybody uses) 15:24 Telesight Yes 15:24 ElectronLibre Good. 15:25 Telesight I will login and check if it is written 15:27 Telesight YEs there is debug info ... 15:28 Telesight Great, thank you very much ... 16:29 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix Noise compiled under clang >= 3.7.x with -O2 or higher 13d198e42 http://git.io/vl8wD (152015-11-01T11:16:18-05:00) 16:49 kaeza o/ 16:49 Krock \o/ 17:22 Krock Out`Of`Control, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14gIX3bX8Vw 17:26 Out`Of`Control Krock: lol 18:22 Krock [off] http://127.0.0.1:61563/this.lua?opt1=0&text=test 18:22 Krock [off] I'm stupid I know 18:22 Krock [off] http://minetest.devi1.net:61563/this.lua 18:22 est31 that's your box? 18:23 est31 man dude next you tell me you use IIS as web server 18:23 Krock Yes, experimental Lua implementation as a CGI application 18:23 Krock That's not IIS, it's nginx 18:23 est31 and all running on winxp ?! lets hope you dont get hacked 18:24 est31 most people on this channel are nice though. 18:24 Krock A testing server, you know. 18:25 Krock The [off] tag is quite efficient when crazy nerds search hackable home servers 18:26 est31 ? 18:27 Krock ...nvm 18:27 Out`Of`Control poor est31 18:28 Krock poor as in 'no money'? 18:28 Out`Of`Control no 18:28 Out`Of`Control poor as in silly 18:30 est31 are you silly because you tell that winxp connected to internet is insecure? 18:30 Out`Of`Control est31: no 18:30 Out`Of`Control windows connected to internet is insecure 18:30 Krock why then? 18:30 Out`Of`Control Hahaha 18:30 Krock lol 18:31 Krock air conditioning system confirmed 18:32 Krock That's what Microsoft produces. Open a window and it stops working 18:33 Out`Of`Control :D 18:33 est31 lol 18:42 fireglow !seen LemonLake 18:42 MinetestBot fireglow: lemonlake was last seen at 2014-12-20 12:00:34 UTC on #minetest 18:54 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix Lua scripting synchronization 1352e5b51 http://git.io/vl4Cf (152015-11-01T11:32:05-05:00) 19:00 Krock !seen fireglow 19:00 MinetestBot Krock: fireglow was last seen at 2015-11-01 18:42:51 UTC on #minetest 19:00 fireglow sup 19:00 Krock dunno 19:00 fireglow word 19:00 Krock wat 19:01 fireglow ah, found a card mod with detector rail, cheers SmallJoker 19:01 fireglow !seen SmallJoker 19:01 MinetestBot fireglow: Sorry, I haven't seen smalljoker around. 19:01 fireglow gg 19:01 Krock .. 19:01 fireglow wot you dotting, m8? 19:01 Krock MinetestBot: alias add Krock SmallJoker 19:01 Calinou … 19:01 Krock …… 19:01 fireglow more dots 19:01 Calinou ⋅⋅⋅ 19:02 Krock ¨¨ 19:02 fireglow ok, slow dots 19:02 fireglow slow dots 19:02 Calinou ‑–—–‑ 19:02 PilzAdam Krock, you don't have to worry about people searching servers to attack in IRC logs 19:03 Krock PilzAdam, yes. I believe that's true 19:04 PilzAdam and you response header doesn't seem to contain anything suspicious, so you should be safe for now 19:06 fireglow oh noes, boost_cart errors 19:06 Krock The webserver does not support errors yet. 19:06 fireglow gotta find that smalljoker dude 19:06 Krock MinetestBot: alias add Krock SmallJoker 19:06 Krock <.< 19:06 fireglow :> 19:07 Krock so, what's the error? Pastebin please 19:08 fireglow https://pastee.org/7d8an gimme a sec, trying to find out exactly when it happens 19:09 Krock That's not an error 19:10 fireglow could be, could be, man 19:10 Krock https://github.com/SmallJoker/boost_cart/commit/1b53eb 19:12 Krock ^ fireglow, that fixes it 19:12 fireglow cheers lad, good on ya 19:14 Krock ^^ 19:17 srakitnican Hello, just installed Fedora 23 and I am trying out Minetest in Wayland 19:17 srakitnican *upgraded 19:18 srakitnican and I have a problem 19:18 srakitnican mouse pointer kepps going in direction is pointing at, like in android game 19:18 srakitnican but I am on desktop 19:19 srakitnican don't know where to look at 19:20 LazyJ srakitnican, auto-forward was recently added to Minetest. Perhaps that has been enabled? 19:21 Calinou can you make a screencast? eg. using SimpleScreenRecorder: http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/ 19:21 Calinou you can upload the result to https://imgrush.com (up to 50 MB) 19:21 srakitnican it's minetest 0.4.12 19:21 srakitnican and it work fine on xorg 19:21 LazyJ Ah. Well, auto-forward was the only thing I could think of. 19:22 srakitnican I will try 19:26 srakitnican Or I can describe, if mouse pointer is in the middle of window cross is not moving anywhere, as soon as I move mouse it starts moving in that direction and never stops 19:32 semirocket yeah recording might be difficult on wayland, ebverything crashes lol 19:44 FreeFull srakitnican: Wayland doesn't have pointer warping or pointer locking 19:44 FreeFull srakitnican: So no game that relies on it will work 19:45 FreeFull This rules out any game with a first-person perspective for example 19:47 Calinou is that planned? 19:47 Calinou how are they going to fix it? 19:51 srakitnican so this is a known issue, ok thanks :) 19:56 srakitnican I am amazed actually that it runs on wayland :D 20:08 srakitnican Here is a short video of what was I talking about for anyone interested: https://imgrush.com/8GBH6QxmzVx1 20:10 ADFENO ??? 20:10 srakitnican minetest on wayland :p 20:10 ADFENO Ah.... 20:11 ADFENO Wow! Buggy... :D 20:12 srakitnican surprisingly everything seems to work fine except mouse pointer control 20:12 Out`Of`Control 5 fps? 20:13 srakitnican no that's camera phone 20:13 srakitnican fps is fine 20:14 ADFENO Ah! D 20:14 ADFENO So it's just the mouse.. 20:14 srakitnican yeah 20:26 rubenwardy srakitnican, your computer is weird 20:26 rubenwardy It'll be because of this code: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/game.cpp#L1847-L1850 20:27 rubenwardy You computer either has floating point inaccuracies, or the cursor isn't being grabbed correctly 20:28 rubenwardy would you be able to build Minetest your self, so I can put a print statement there to debug it? 20:29 srakitnican I can try 20:30 rubenwardy do you have aptitude? 20:30 srakitnican I am on fedora 23 so dnf 20:30 srakitnican http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest 20:30 Calinou I'm on Fedora 22, Fedora 23 release is in 1 week... 20:30 srakitnican follow this? 20:30 Calinou hope it won't break everything 20:31 rubenwardy yeah 20:31 srakitnican Fedora 23 release on 3rd 20:31 srakitnican I did dnf system-upgrade --releasever=23 21:51 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Uberi -> 03Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix #93 (thanks @za267!) 13https:/ http://git.io/vlBmt (152015-11-01T16:50:36-05:00) 22:12 MinetestBot 02[git] 04celeron55 -> 03minetest/minetest: Print direct command line responses to standard output instead of using the log system 133285bf7 http://git.io/vlBGI (152015-11-02T00:11:20+02:00) 22:13 Megaf_ Hi all, finally back 22:14 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, yeah, Megaf is back! 22:14 Megaf_ o/ 22:14 JohnnyComeL8ly ;-) 22:27 Megaf_ Now I'm impressed 22:27 Megaf_ so, gNewSense 3 from years ago runnign GNOME uses the very same amount of RAM that Debian Sid using MATE uses today 22:28 Megaf_ https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Megaf/98157d55502211cd4f75/raw/848e10c7bb36e942ed75c5e75a9edba1163e1ec9/gistfile1.txt 22:28 Megaf_ https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Megaf/9907f2121e37e71e3eaa/raw/fcd055a8c71d64253e94361772255de020fa4894/gistfile1.txt 22:32 JohnnyComeL8ly Megaf_: Idk what is meant by this... I do know that I'm disappointed with the progress of gNewSense, for it has a really old software included in the ISO which one downloads 22:33 Megaf_ JohnnyComeL8ly: it works well, as well, if not better than Debian Squeeze 22:33 Megaf_ but it is outdated yes 22:33 Megaf_ they should keep doing the stuff 22:34 Megaf_ and they could use the Linux Libre Kernel 22:34 JohnnyComeL8ly I think they kinda let it go... Trisquel is what RMS uses now. 22:35 Megaf_ I'm not using Trisquel, still based on Ubuntu 22:36 JohnnyComeL8ly No, it is based on debian... afaIk. 22:49 JohnnyComeL8ly Megaf_: I made a mistake... it is based on Ubuntu. But, RMS and FSF/GNU support it, so why are you against it? 22:51 Megaf_ lack of quality and testing 22:57 JohnnyComeL8ly So, you use gNewSense? 22:57 JohnnyComeL8ly Megaf_: ^^ 22:58 Megaf_ JohnnyComeL8ly: used for half a day :) 22:58 JohnnyComeL8ly What do you use now? 23:00 JohnnyComeL8ly Megaf_: ^^ (I should just remember to place this before I send the msg....) :-P 23:00 Megaf_ what I had been using, Debian 23:00 JohnnyComeL8ly Megaf_: And that is completely free? 23:01 Megaf_ almost, on Debina you can choose what repos from it you want, they have main, contrib and non-free 23:02 JohnnyComeL8ly Megaf_: From what I understand... the distro doesn't cut the mustard for FSF because they still have repositories which contain non-free software. 23:02 Megaf_ main is only Open Source, but I think the kernel itself does have some binary firmware or something 23:02 Megaf_ Im using only main on this netbook 23:03 JohnnyComeL8ly Psych! lol we said a verbatim statement. 23:24 Megaf_ JohnnyComeL8ly: I don't get it 23:25 JohnnyComeL8ly The statemenst at 17:01:51 and 17:02:04 are very similar. 23:26 Megaf_ yep :)