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waressearcher2 |
any suggestions of a free podcast service where I can upload 20GB of audio ? |
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waressearcher2 |
I know mostly free ones allow only 50-500MB upload |
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waressearcher2, I very much doubt it, for free |
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Krock |
\o/ One more post to 3000 |
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CWz |
Krock: it not important how much post you have but the quality of said posts. better 3000 good posts then over 9k crapposts |
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Krock |
CWz, true, but it's still something I can celebrate about |
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Megaf_ |
Good morning |
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AnotherBrick |
morning |
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Megaf_ |
So, I just got this email from Google "New sign-in from Safari on Linux" |
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CWz |
Megaf: not possible there is no Safari for linux |
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VanessaE |
user agent spoofer plugin? |
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ElectronLibre |
(I think that's the point of his message) |
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VanessaE |
(or that() |
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CWz |
Netx we will get Internet Explorer for Nintendo 3DS |
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VanessaE |
ah, here he is |
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* VanessaE |
waits for the "happy X day" message :) |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Punctuation Day! 😃 |
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* ElectronLibre |
does too |
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JamesTait |
👋 VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
hi :) |
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ElectronLibre |
Punctuation day? I see. |
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CWz |
Hello VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
Great, now I'm gonna be forced to write in formal style today? :) |
| 09:36 |
VanessaE |
hey CWz |
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ElectronLibre |
So be sure to put all the exclamation/interrogation marks, and full stops; and also write with capital letters, etc. |
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JamesTait |
I'm late starting this morning; I was dealing with a friend's hard drive problem. |
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* CWz |
is/was considering starting what is known as "freeminer server", but is not to sure now. |
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CWz |
there was drama on the forum\ |
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VanessaE |
this is news? :P |
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CWz |
glad the thread was locked before the inevitable "climb up a tree and fling yar crap at eachother" started" |
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ElectronLibre |
It had to start at some point in a near future. But this kind of debate doesn't make things progress. |
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CWz |
Well sadly fate is not on the side of what is known as the "Positive side" |
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ElectronLibre |
(I read too fast). The conflict had to start, but indeed it's good the thread got locked before it drifted to that kind of argue. |
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CWz |
I remember theday a the Majority of players knew how to read signs |
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CWz |
But alas Sign reading is becoming an ancient art. it won't be long until the NewGeration considers signreading a form of witchcraft |
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ElectronLibre_ |
CWz: You mean right-clicking? |
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CWz |
NewPlayer: I am stuck at spawn. oh look signs! i should break spawn to getout |
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fling |
D'oh! |
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ElectronLibre |
CWz, that's most kids' reaction to an obstacle, trying to destroy it. |
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VanessaE |
like I said, it's Eternal September all over again :( |
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CWz |
good thing they are not near a Nuclear Reactor |
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nm0i |
Remember remember neverending september. |
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CWz |
Hey Jordach |
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* CWz |
notices that DC lacks creativity with there town/city names. |
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Jordach |
topkek CWz |
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* CWz |
has no idea what topkek means |
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Krock |
CWz, http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/s4s/images/c/ce/Top_ramen.png/revision/latest?cb=20130831200154 |
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CWz |
Kek, that is random |
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CWz |
Kek is the Turkish word for kake |
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CWz |
*cake |
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xfceKris |
!log |
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xfceKris |
How to get minetestbot to show me the logs?> |
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xfceKris |
!logs |
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xfceKris |
nvm it's in topic |
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befe |
hello |
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* befe |
slaps CWz around a bit with a large fishbot |
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befe |
hello |
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Krock |
hi |
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befe |
hmmm Krock havent heard of that name on irc before |
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Krock |
my name? |
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xfceKris |
that's because he's a Krock of bull. :P |
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Krock |
<.< |
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befe |
lol |
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befe |
im an old minetest player so thats probably why i havent heard that name before |
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Krock |
befe, playing minetest since two years and that's +/- the same time as I'm here |
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Krock |
s/since/for |
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befe |
ive played for four |
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xfceKris |
I've played for...less than a year. |
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* xfceKris |
hangs head |
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Krock |
xD |
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befe |
its ok all of us were nubs at some point |
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Calinou |
half-nubs |
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Krock |
I think it would be better to call them "newbies" instead of nubs |
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befe |
heres a tip secure your base and explore other servers rather than one |
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Krock |
All your base blongs to us. |
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befe |
Amaz ! |
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xfceKris |
Are you referring to me as the half-nub? |
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Calinou |
no |
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Calinou |
it's a rank on OpenArena forum |
| 14:33 |
Calinou |
you start "Nub", then "Half-nub" |
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befe |
half nub is half nub and half pro? |
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Calinou |
probably |
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Krock |
Amaz! |
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xfceKris |
Ah, I've never heard of OpenArena...so that would help. |
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befe |
Amaz ! |
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waressearcher2 |
Amaz: ing spiderman |
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xfceKris |
anyway. gtg |
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befe |
bye |
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Amaz |
Hi |
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Krock |
Hi there, Amaz :) |
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befe |
Amaz its been a while |
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Krock |
seems to ignore you |
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befe |
Amaz |
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befe |
NOTICE ME |
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Krock |
(/notice) = |
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Krock |
*? |
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befe |
gtg bye |
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CWz |
Amaz: hello |
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Krock |
So if I have 7 GFLOPs with this CPU speed and minetest loads for 10 seconds.. holy crab! |
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Amaz |
Sorry, I was afk... Hi CWz! |
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Megaf |
meh, the FAT filesytem on one of my sdcards is totally borked |
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Megaf |
I think the sd card itself is defective |
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Megaf |
[ 9556.564396] mmcblk0: timed out sending r/w cmd command, card status 0x900 |
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Megaf |
[ 9556.564421] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 4063840 |
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Megaf |
[ 9556.564430] Buffer I/O error on dev mmcblk0p1, logical block 506956, async page read |
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Megaf |
[ 9566.776355] mmcblk0: timed out sending r/w cmd command, card status 0x900 |
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Megaf |
cool isnt it? |
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Megaf |
millions of these lines on dmesg |
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Megaf |
So, I'm running fsck.vfat on it, to check for errors and badblocks, and I'm getting lots of |
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Megaf |
/DCIM/101CANON/IMG_4899.CR2 |
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Megaf |
Cluster 251 (63248) is unreadable. Skipping it. |
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Megaf |
This is not good at all |
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waressearcher2 |
Calinou: seem like you are heavily into quake so when you are playin minetest don't you feel like its too slow and there is not enoguht shotguns |
| 16:34 |
Calinou |
yeah, sometimes |
| 16:34 |
Calinou |
needs OP rocket launcher and thunderbolt |
| 16:34 |
waressearcher2 |
and a voice that says from time to time: "blue wins" |
| 16:35 |
waressearcher2 |
Calinou: or on the other hand don't you miss all that blockiness and crafting stuff when playing quake ? |
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waressearcher2 |
don't you have an urge to build a house instead of rocket jump from your opponents ? |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
QuakeWorld is pretty blocky :P you can set textures to be filtered "nearest neighbor" |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
https://imgrush.com/AylPVY8T0-bo |
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Calinou |
head is almost as blocky as Minetest player |
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Megaf |
Calinou: so, nquake is based on the old Quake I? |
| 16:42 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 16:42 |
Calinou |
and nQuake2 on Quake 2 |
| 16:42 |
Calinou |
(there is no nQuake3 or nQuake4) |
| 16:42 |
Megaf |
and you play 1 or 2? |
| 16:42 |
Calinou |
both |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
but usually 1 because it plays better on higher pings |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
whereas Quake 2 is nearly unplayable even with 100 ms ping |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
(need to lead shots) |
| 16:44 |
Megaf |
Calinou: and why dony you play Nexuiz, OpenArena and so on |
| 16:45 |
Megaf |
Calinou: suggestions for addons that I must install? |
| 16:46 |
Calinou |
I play Xonotic/OpenArena too |
| 16:46 |
Calinou |
Megaf, install all add-ons and be done with it :P |
| 16:46 |
Calinou |
but don't search for pak1.pak |
| 16:46 |
Megaf |
internet is very very very slow here |
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Calinou |
then get none, basic gameplay doesn't require any |
| 16:47 |
Megaf |
ok, downloading the thing |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
but game won't look as good without HD textures |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
(tip: you can run the installer a second time later) |
| 16:47 |
Megaf |
4 minutes to download the game |
| 16:47 |
Megaf |
Calinou: is there a JAVA port of it? I saw I can play it without installing it |
| 16:47 |
Calinou |
yeah but it sucks |
| 16:48 |
Megaf |
they compiled the thing in java bytecode? From C? That's weird |
| 16:48 |
Calinou |
I don't know, maybe |
| 16:49 |
Calinou |
another fun game is XMoto: http://xmoto.tuxfamily.org |
| 16:49 |
Calinou |
very tricky |
| 16:49 |
Calinou |
and mostly unmaintained |
| 16:49 |
Calinou |
2500 levels |
| 16:49 |
Megaf |
Calinou: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4221605/compiling-c-for-the-jvm |
| 16:49 |
Megaf |
read the answer |
| 16:49 |
Megaf |
lets compile the Linux kernel in JAVA, lol |
| 16:50 |
Megaf |
and I know xmoto, used to play it a lot |
| 16:50 |
waressearcher2 |
Calinou: I player OpenArena on 150-180 ping, there was no lag, but then I tryed to play it over GPRS using cellphone and ping was 250, and there was huge lag, like you shoot and half a second later you realise that the opponent is no longer where it supposed to be, so rail-arena type, where you have just railguns, was unplayable, also mostly I was |
| 16:50 |
waressearcher2 |
kicked by server after a while because of that lag |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
OpenArena has unlagged hitscan weapons |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
and good client-side prediction overall |
| 16:51 |
Calinou |
there's lots of code dedicated to it :p |
| 16:51 |
Calinou |
also, 4G should make real-time games playable |
| 16:51 |
Megaf |
Slow 3G here, let's see how well I can play nQuake 1 |
| 16:52 |
Megaf |
downloading gpl.zip now |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
there are many zips |
| 16:52 |
Megaf |
oh, so it will take a while =/ |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
the largest one is HD textures, if you have selected them for download |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
there is gpl.zip, non-gpl.zip and a few more |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
by default |
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waressearcher2 |
I remember that xmoto, very unnoying game, some levels can make you a mad-crazy so I stopped playing it after a while compeletely |
| 16:55 |
Calinou |
yeah :P |
| 16:55 |
Calinou |
play the 100 easiest levels |
| 16:58 |
waressearcher2 |
like there can be really long levels and you spent 30 minutes to get near the end and then there is that invisible thing that kills you, its like I remember playing sonic on sega for 3 hours and then lost all lives in one tricky place, they had to allow you to save the game in xmoto |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
there are checkpoints in some recent levels |
| 17:01 |
Megaf |
Calinou: 6m to get non-gpl |
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Megaf |
Calinou: I dont like this game |
| 17:19 |
Megaf |
./ezquake-gl.glx: error while loading shared libraries: libXxf86dga.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
install the appropriate libraries :P |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
(yes, you are running the right binary, the GLX one) |
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Megaf |
I have that lib |
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Calinou |
you on 32 bits or 64 bits? |
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Megaf |
Calinou: I just noticed that the game is 32 bit |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
I compiled my own ezQuake here (which is the client used by nQuake) |
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Calinou |
which of you knows a package (other than htop) that displays a CPU/RAM graph in a command line? |
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waressearcher2 |
what is wrong with normal "top" ? |
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Calinou |
it's way too basic |
| 17:30 |
Calinou |
and it can't do what I want (draw Unicode graph in command line) |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
htop is much better than plain top, but it only draws tiny graphs using ASCII |
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waressearcher2 |
I don't use fancy stuff, like statistics as a walpapper background |
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xfceKris |
I come on here, thinking "I'll just hang out for a bit. See what people are saying, check for an update." And I always end up playing...always. |
| 17:35 |
xfceKris |
I've got to stop hanging out with you guys |
| 17:36 |
waressearcher2 |
right, hang out more with kids |
| 17:36 |
xfceKris |
I do. I have three of my own that I care for on a daily basis |
| 17:36 |
xfceKris |
lmao |
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waressearcher2 |
I bet your wife think you are working now |
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xfceKris |
Nope. |
| 17:38 |
xfceKris |
(I'd explain further, but...personal situations and such.) |
| 17:38 |
Krock |
And again I notice this huge age difference |
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xfceKris |
age difference? |
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xfceKris |
between...? |
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Krock |
xfceKris, you and me |
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xfceKris |
Your age would be? |
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* xfceKris |
is still in his 20's |
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xfceKris |
point being? |
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waressearcher2 |
is still in his 13, in reverse |
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waressearcher2 |
what if I do "[off] [off] some text" will it be double negative and will be logged ? |
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sfan5 |
!c 0x20 |
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MinetestBot |
32 |
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sfan5 |
ah |
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Teckla |
!c 0021 |
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MinetestBot |
SyntaxError: invalid token (<string>, line 1) |
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Teckla |
MinetestBot is running Lua? |
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sfan5 |
no |
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Teckla |
ah, ok, thx |
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xfceKris |
MinetestBot is probably running Java |
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ElectronLibre_ |
xfceKris: It's in Python as far as I know |
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xfceKris |
There's the answer. :D |
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waressearcher2 |
bot written in Java ? |
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waressearcher2 |
only guys in #java can to that |
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sfan5 |
its written in python |
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waressearcher2 |
I mean, its rare to have a bot writen in Java |
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xfceKris |
I was guessing, in hopes that someone would pop up with the correct answer. |
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xfceKris |
I haven't got the skill set to even know how to begin to program a bot. |
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xfceKris |
Oh wait, I do have the skills to begin it...create folder, name folder "bot" or so....then stop |
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waressearcher2 |
Calinou: "./ezquake-gl.glx: error while loading shared libraries", this is why they made "quake live" that everyone can play just using a web browser |
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Calinou |
waressearcher2, Quake 3 != QuakeWorld |
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Calinou |
moreover, Quake Live is proprietary |
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Calinou |
(and it has shit balance :P) |
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Calinou |
also Quake Live is now a native app |
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Calinou |
since a year or so |
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Calinou |
(and runs on Windows only) |
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waressearcher2 |
didn't know that |
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waressearcher2 |
DI3HARD139: why change name ? |
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waressearcher2 |
I like "RichardTheTurd" |
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DI3HARD139 |
RichardTheTurd is for when Im on a server. Keeps HexChat from going off when talking on a server |
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DI3HARD139 |
dont need it here tho |
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CWz |
i bet the primordial soup tasted terrible |
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RichardTheTurd |
? |
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waressearcher2 |
there was no salt ? |
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waressearcher2 |
anyone believe in that theory first organisms on earth came on an asteroid from mars ? |
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CWz |
makes sense |
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RichardTheTurd |
It's somewhat logical so.... sort of. not so much the mars part |
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RichardTheTurd |
grrrrr UPnP is stuck closed again.... |
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asl97 |
RichardTheTurd: manually port forward it |
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RichardTheTurd |
Did. I think the local portforward loopback isnt working again. Its a known issue with DD-WRT and my router. |
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asl97 |
or maybe even dmz if you don't care that much about security |
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RichardTheTurd |
ah I see why. Forgot to enable it on pfSense |
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Hijiri |
life coming on an asteroid makes sense if life is so ubiquitous that it's harder to homebrew your own life than to wait for an asteroid to by chance carry some life |
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Hijiri |
I don't know how it would get so common if it was that hard for life to appear though |
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rom1504 |
I'd say that mean that life is not ubiquitous |
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rom1504 |
if 1B years is not enough to evolve life, then it's really rare |
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Hijiri |
I don't see how that follows, since most planets probably last more than 1B years |
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Hijiri |
but I think life is rare, I was just saying that if there's a good chance of getting it from an asteroid, it suggests it's not too rare |
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waressearcher2 |
you have to start from something, if there is no "something" there will be no evolution and no life |
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Hijiri |
well where does the first something come from? |
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waressearcher2 |
from chicken |
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waressearcher2 |
another question where chicken came from |
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Hijiri |
life doesn't have to come from life |
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waressearcher2 |
in minetest its simple life just pops out of thin air |
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alket |
lol |
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waressearcher2 |
in real life, life comes from carbon chains |
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Hijiri |
which can also exist in the absence of life |
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Hijiri |
also saying chicken/egg doesn't answer the question I gave about where life originated from, if it came on an asteroid |
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Hijiri |
unless you are suggesting that the universe started out with life? |
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waressearcher2 |
you mean 1B is enough for intelligent life to evolve or just life ? |
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Hijiri |
I think rom1504 just meant life in general |
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Hijiri |
since that is how long it took on Earth |
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waressearcher2 |
you know |
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waressearcher2 |
you know, why do you need 1B years ? I mean 0.00000000001 second ago there was no life and then there is life, so its a matter whether you call that something "life" or not |
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waressearcher2 |
it like there is an algorithm that needs to be calculated for 1B years to life pop up out of random rock |
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waressearcher2 |
if virus is not a life form, what is life form ? |
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Soni |
hello, does minetest have 18+ mods? .-. |
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Hijiri |
what are you trying to say |
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waressearcher2 |
you just add few molecules to some "stuff" and then it becomes a "life form" ? do you need 1B years to add those molecules ? |
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Hijiri |
the issue with viruses is that life usually is defined to require reproduction |
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waressearcher2 |
Soni: you mean BDSM ? |
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Hijiri |
but viruses can't reproduce on their own |
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Hijiri |
hence the ambiguity |
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Soni |
waressearcher2, no |
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rom1504 |
(yeah I meant life in general) |
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Soni |
what? |
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Soni |
ಠ_ಠ|
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waressearcher2 |
Soni: XXX ? |
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Hijiri |
waressearcher2: it just took 1B years for enough chance occurences to build up |
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Hijiri |
at least that is the main theory (hypothesis?) |
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waressearcher2 |
Soni: "does minetest have 18+ mods", you mean mods that contain inexplicit content ? |
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waressearcher2 |
Soni: I mean "adult" ? |
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Soni |
just... don't say anything else, please... |
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Hijiri |
there must be a better medium for erp than minetest |
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rom1504 |
"chance occurences to build up" and "compute how to create life" might be the same thing |
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Hijiri |
so like the earth is a big probalistic computer computing life? |
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rom1504 |
or it's just that the universe has a poor algorithm to create life |
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rom1504 |
well would just computed the law of physics, and that would end up in life |
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rom1504 |
*it would |
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rom1504 |
I think stephen wolfram point of view on that is interesting https://gigaom.com/2015/07/27/interview-with-stephen-wolfram-on-ai-and-the-future/ |
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waressearcher2 |
can one "cell" from human body be cosidered a life form on its own ? |
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waressearcher2 |
if yes, we are just a pile of life forms ? |
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waressearcher2 |
I mean you can call one cell organisms a life form |
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rom1504 |
yes |
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rom1504 |
bacteries are life forms |
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waressearcher2 |
so what if entire earth population is just one life form ? and we are not aware of it as our cells are not aware that they are part of something bigger |
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Hijiri |
does the earth population reproduce into more populations? |
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waressearcher2 |
that what happens in china, they just grow |
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Hijiri |
but it's not like the humans are severely interdependent like cells in a body |
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rom1504 |
would you include the computers and building in that big life form waressearcher2 ? |
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waressearcher2 |
of course humanity is trying to come up with birth control tools like WoW or COD but its not very effective |
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Hijiri |
I would say it's more like a colony than a big life form |
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rom1504 |
because humans certainly don't communicate with just biological stuff unlike cells |
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rom1504 |
waressearcher2: is minetest more effective for that :p ? |
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goes back to watching Black Jesus on Adult Swim |
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waressearcher2 |
rom1504: computers and buildings are like bones and hairs in human body |
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waressearcher2 |
rom1504: there is one clone of minetest with similar name that is much more effective |
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rom1504 |
well it's a fun analogy (gaia) but I'm not sure if it's useful to deduce things ;) |
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waressearcher2 |
I like how they depicted that in first "Man in black" movie, at the end when aliens are playing with balls and those balls are another universe and so forth |
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waressearcher2 |
or a theory that everything is just one electron going back in time |
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Amaz |
How do I use the emergeblocks command? When I use /emergeblocks here 500 and then, after a period of time map the world, the map I get is this: https://imgrush.com/xAC5gTSqrjWP.png |
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asl97 |
Amaz: it might still be generating, if i ain't wrong, that command queue 244140 block for generating |
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Amaz |
Ah, okay :) |
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asl97 |
Amaz: your 500 radius mean 500 up, down, north, south, east, west, total 1000^3 node |
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Amaz |
Ah. |
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Amaz |
I must of got mixed up between radius and diameter :P |
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asl97 |
i would put pos instead of radius |
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Amaz |
Okay. |
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Robert_Zenz |
Amaz, it doesn't seem to generate anything, see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3183. |
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asl97 |
Robert_Zenz: the . broke the link xD |
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Amaz |
I had a feeling that might be the case Robert... I had tried it on various distances and places values before. |
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Amaz |
s/places values/coords. |
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Robert_Zenz |
Amaz, will be fixed as it seems. |
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Amaz |
Yep. |
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RichardTheTurd |
wait theres a generate command now? |
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Amaz |
/emergeblocks |
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RichardTheTurd |
............... |
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Amaz |
But it doesn't work, atm :P |
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RichardTheTurd |
oh :( |
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RichardTheTurd |
Ill just use MT 0.4.12 XD |
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asl |
Amaz: something like (500,0,500) (-500, 0, -500) should reduce it to about 244 block |
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Amaz |
Yeah, I've changed it, and am just testing it out again. |
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RichardTheTurd |
........... Mapgen was at singlenode and when I typed MultiRealm into the name it changed to v6 |
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Amaz |
(1000, 0, 1000) (1100, 10, 1100) |
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RichardTheTurd |
Can I define the node for the /emergeblocks commands? |
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asl |
Amaz: i say best case would be about 1026 block |
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Amaz |
Okay. |
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asl |
RichardTheTurd: emergeblock only is use to queue the area for generation |
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RichardTheTurd |
Oh........ darn..... back to the drawing board them |
| 20:40 |
RichardTheTurd |
then |
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asl |
RichardTheTurd: if placement of block is what you want, you should look into world edit or something |
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RichardTheTurd |
I did but I need to generate 6 10000x10000x10000 nodes and that uses all my ram then the game crashes |
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RichardTheTurd |
9000x9000x9000* |
| 20:41 |
RichardTheTurd |
IDK how to make a custom mapgen |
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asl |
what did you expect lol |
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asl |
you can try placing it in smaller amount |
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Robert_Zenz |
RichardTheTurd, what exactly are you trying to do? |
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RichardTheTurd |
Split the world into 6 zones. The goal is to make multiple building realms |
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RichardTheTurd |
each with a different goal |
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Robert_Zenz |
RichardTheTurd, one of the flat mapgens does not suffice? |
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RichardTheTurd |
no. I need them to be independent and not connected to each other. needs 1000 nodes of space between each other |
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RichardTheTurd |
at the minimum |
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asl |
RichardTheTurd: a custom mapgen can do that |
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RichardTheTurd |
IDK how to make one XD |
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asl |
learn how then xD |
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Robert_Zenz |
RichardTheTurd, yeah, WorldEdit and a lot of time would be easiest if you don't want hills and such. |
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Amaz |
Does it just need to be flat? |
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RichardTheTurd |
It can be flat or with hills/mountains etc |
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asl |
a flat mapgen is pretty simple |
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RichardTheTurd |
I can start with a flat mapgen then add the mountians flag if needed |
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Amaz |
It might be as simple as modifying this so it has layers, and then 1000 layers of air between them: https://github.com/srifqi/superflat |
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RichardTheTurd |
I wish WE could generate cubes |
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Amaz |
*1000 meters |
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asl |
RichardTheTurd: there nothing stopping us |
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asl |
Amaz: i don't think layers is what RichardTheTurd mean by spliting into zone, wouldn't the lower layers be in darkness? |
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RichardTheTurd |
brb |
| 20:53 |
RichardTheTurd |
They would be individual platforms side by side |
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Amaz |
asl, possibly. |
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RichardTheTurd |
I would just use invisible walls to prevent outwards building |
| 20:54 |
Amaz |
However some mapgens are "realms" thousands of nodes above the surface, and they son't cause shadows. |
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Amaz |
What about this then? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=11537 |
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asl |
Amaz: that isn't a mapgen is it? |
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Amaz |
Nope ;) |
| 20:56 |
Amaz |
But it might solve his problems :) |
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asl |
RichardTheTurd: just make a single layer mapgen and check fourth digit, if it is an odd number, generate only air, if it is an even number, generate the realms |
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asl |
simple as that |
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Amaz |
(And it is the only thing that is generated, so it could be possible to argue that it is a mapgen...) |
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asl |
the fourth digit of x and z |
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RichardTheTurd |
back |
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RichardTheTurd |
that could work actually. atleast as a starting point |
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RichardTheTurd |
This is what Im wanting to do. However it will be on a 9000x9000x9000 scale http://picpaste.com/screenshot_12604627-0kJe6P3q.png |
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* RichardTheTurd |
checks the default mapgen |
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asl |
i highly doubt the default mapgen would work, you need a custom lua mapgen or something |
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RichardTheTurd |
I have an idea of what I could do. |
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asl |
i am already trying it out xD |
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waressearcher2 |
is there a "Heaven" and "Hell" realms or mods ? |
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Amaz |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7689 |
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asl |
RichardTheTurd: it works xD https://bpaste.net/show/61c89a0680d2 |
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RichardTheTurd |
and I just crashed minetest.......... |
| 21:20 |
RichardTheTurd |
that freaking KERNELBASE.dll gets me every time. I wish there was a way to increase the LUA memory limit |
| 21:20 |
RichardTheTurd |
time to delete and start again |
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asl |
my mapgen shouldn't crash :| |
| 21:20 |
RichardTheTurd |
I was talking about WE |
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RichardTheTurd |
I did a stretch |
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asl |
oh |
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RichardTheTurd |
save as init.lua? |
| 21:22 |
asl |
yup |
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RichardTheTurd |
now to edit that to make 9 of the platforms needed |
| 21:24 |
asl |
why not just let it make as many platform it want? |
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RichardTheTurd |
how many does it generate? |
| 21:25 |
asl |
as many as the world can fit |
| 21:25 |
asl |
it generate on demand |
| 21:25 |
RichardTheTurd |
at 2000x1000? |
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RichardTheTurd |
or am I reading it wrong? |
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waressearcher2 |
RichardTheTurd: "there was a way to increase the LUA memory limit", can you elaborate on that ? does that mean you can't allocate more than some amount of memory in lua scripts even if PC has tons of RAM ? |
| 21:26 |
asl |
it generate a 1000 by 10 by 1000 platform |
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est31 |
waressearcher2, yes luajit has a memory limit |
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est31 |
1 gb or 2 gb im not sure |
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asl |
on demand, meaning piece by piece of it when needed |
| 21:26 |
est31 |
there are different sources and they claim different things |
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RichardTheTurd |
waressearcher2: I've had mods complain that they've hit the memory limit of 25MB |
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RichardTheTurd |
and it crashes to the main menu with an internal error |
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asl |
the %2000 is to check if the fourth digit is an odd number |
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waressearcher2 |
there were times when 640Kb was enough |
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asl |
well, indirectly check |
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waressearcher2 |
RichardTheTurd: as a good side, at least that lua's "limit" can teach you how to optimize |
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RichardTheTurd |
yea |
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RichardTheTurd |
asl: I see how its setup now |
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Thatguywho |
IDK y I was just kicked |
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waressearcher2 |
Soni: you are here ? |
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waressearcher2 |
Soni: why in #lua channel's topic its said: "Pay no attention to Soni" ? |
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waressearcher2 |
so minetest uses LuaJIT 2.0 ? |
| 21:49 |
est31 |
no |
| 21:49 |
est31 |
it can use it |
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est31 |
but it can also use normal lua |
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waressearcher2 |
I mean that limit 2GB is particular for LuaJIT not to regular lua |
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RichardTheTurd |
Is there a command to make the world completely generate without having to travel the whole thing> |
| 21:58 |
RichardTheTurd |
? |
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asl |
RichardTheTurd: i wouldn't be surprise if generating the whole world take up more than 1TB |
| 22:00 |
RichardTheTurd |
You got a good point there. It would help take the load of the servers though XD |
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rubenwardy |
only for lua mapgens |
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RichardTheTurd |
thats what will be used |
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RichardTheTurd |
rubenwardy: whats the command to force generate the map of lua mapgens? |
| 22:16 |
rubenwardy |
same |
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RichardTheTurd |
? |
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rubenwardy |
/emergeblocks |
| 22:17 |
rubenwardy |
<rubenwardy> only for lua mapgens |
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RichardTheTurd |
oh that ones broken :9 |
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rubenwardy |
was in response to |
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RichardTheTurd |
:( |
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rubenwardy |
<RichardTheTurd> It would help take the load of the servers though XD |
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RichardTheTurd |
ok |
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rubenwardy |
C++ mapgens are purportedly faster than reading from the disc |
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rubenwardy |
iirc |
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RichardTheTurd |
ummmmmmmmm |
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RichardTheTurd |
I set the mapgen to "if -30000 > y and y < -29995 then" and now theres no sunlight XD |
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Soni |
waressearcher2, because of ppl like you |
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rubenwardy |
what would you even want in an 18+ mod? |
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RichardTheTurd |
18+ mod????? I dont want to know where that is going |
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rubenwardy |
<Soni> hello, does minetest have 18+ mods? .-. |
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Soni |
rubenwardy, good question |
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Soni |
I asked that more out of curiosity |
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VanessaE |
it does, sorta. there's a cannabis mod, for example. |
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VanessaE |
but it's not like minetest mods use ESRB ratings or something |
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RichardTheTurd |
VanessaE: O_O I need that mod..... I already of the beer mods |
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Soni |
that's not reallu 18+ tho |
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Soni |
really* |
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Soni |
1 sec |
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VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=670 |
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VanessaE |
(if it still works) |
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VanessaE |
hm, dead download link. |
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RichardTheTurd |
"License: DO WHAT THE F*** YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE" Never gets old XD |
| 22:58 |
Soni |
back |
| 22:58 |
RichardTheTurd |
Google might have a working link.... somewhere |
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VanessaE |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/65428713/weed%20(sdzen).zip |
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RichardTheTurd |
Oh yea ompldr was shutdown |
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rubenwardy |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=127661#p127661 |
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Soni |
VanessaE, I was talking about the more hardcore stuff |
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RichardTheTurd |
like the bed related things Im assuming? |
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VanessaE |
there, attached that dropbox-linked copy to the first post. |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
as for "more hardcore" I really don't know. |
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rubenwardy |
http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/chapters/chat.html |
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rubenwardy |
new chapter! |
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RichardTheTurd |
ty Vanessa |
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est31 |
http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/chapters/chat.html#server- |
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est31 |
rubenwardy, does that really work |
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rubenwardy |
unless someone's removed it |
| 23:03 |
est31 |
i have never heard of it, and the implementation doesnt seem to include it https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/3304e1e517fb8aac008c4684e72a4b59b408414a/src/script/lua_api/l_server.cpp#L59 |
| 23:03 |
rubenwardy |
originally the third param defaulted to true |
| 23:04 |
rubenwardy |
ah |
| 23:04 |
rubenwardy |
it got removed here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/4e1f50035e860a00636ca5d804c267119df99601#diff-2543b17841165757ac531ffedd0b5fddR56 |
| 23:05 |
rubenwardy |
so it was depreciated |
| 23:05 |
rubenwardy |
wait what |
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rubenwardy |
that's + |
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est31 |
9a3b7715e2c2390a3a549d4e105ed8c18defb228 |
| 23:06 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/9a3b7715e2c2390a3a549d4e105ed8c18defb228 |
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rubenwardy |
too slow :( |
| 23:07 |
RichardTheTurd |
yup it works. Though I think the textures need to be updated. |
| 23:07 |
est31 |
lol |
| 23:08 |
RichardTheTurd |
One of these days when I can get a Computer powerful enough (or a dedicated server) I want to install ALL working mods. Exluding duplicates |
| 23:09 |
RichardTheTurd |
lmao the server was in a crashloop for the past 8 hrs...... Log its almost 400MB...... |
| 23:10 |
RichardTheTurd |
env_meta went blank again..... |
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rubenwardy |
est31, http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/chapters/chat.html#older-mods |
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est31 |
looks good |
| 23:12 |
est31 |
dont forget to remove the "Server =!=" |
| 23:15 |
rubenwardy |
the server =!= section is gone |
| 23:16 |
est31 |
http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/chapters/chat.html#introduction |
| 23:16 |
rubenwardy |
ah |
| 23:16 |
RichardTheTurd |
How can I clear a map of ALL Unknown Nodes? |
| 23:17 |
rubenwardy |
!mod clean |
| 23:17 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Delete unknown blocks and objects [clean] by PilzAdam - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2777 |
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est31 |
that only seems to work for loaded areas |
| 23:18 |
RichardTheTurd |
I was gonna use that but the problem is that some of the Unknowns dont have info on them anymore. |
| 23:18 |
est31 |
? |
| 23:18 |
est31 |
you need to know the nodenames? press f5 |
| 23:19 |
RichardTheTurd |
some nodes dont have the info available. I can point at it but it never shows "pointing_at = " |
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RichardTheTurd |
Heres the issue: http://picpaste.com/screenshot_20150924_192018-KYvgBfrc.png |
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