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est31 |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Mese |
| 00:05 |
est31 |
"Mese actually means "msn messenger" in Finland and is used as a silly word (it sounds silly) in the ohjelmointiputka programming community. Additionally it is thought that the glasses of the emoticons 8) and 8D are "mese glasses". " |
| 00:06 |
est31 |
lol the clone of a microsoft product has an ore named after another microsoft product |
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Zaitabai |
Yeah, I googled it and found the wiki. |
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Zaitabai |
Since I'm not working till friday, Imma ogle so much lua code, and godot code, and models. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Add two missing directories to doxygen 196975b http://git.io/vGoja (2015-09-02T02:13:47+02:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Don't add line number to comment when running updatepo.sh 94961b3 http://git.io/vGojV (2015-09-02T01:34:37+02:00) |
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wilkgr |
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nrzkt |
? |
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wilkgr |
Birthday on saturday :D |
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oats |
just noticed the website update, very nice job! |
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oats |
also, latest version (0.4.12) from the Arch repos is failing with a big scary error: |
| 13:13 |
oats |
https://ptpb.pw/b69- |
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oats |
https://ptpb.pw/b69- |
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oats |
oops |
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RealBadAngel |
oats, better build from sources |
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RealBadAngel |
see first two lines of your crash report... |
| 13:16 |
oats |
RealBadAngel: fwiw, minetest-leveldb-git fails with a segmentation fault and no other errors |
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oats |
RealBadAngel: oh, didn't notice that |
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nrzkt |
oats: there is already an issue |
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nrzkt |
oats: it's a bug due to irrlicht |
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oats |
nrzkt: ok, thanks |
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oats |
I'll just try regular minetest-git |
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nrzkt |
oats: rollback to irrlicht 1.8.1 on your arch. If you don't find package look at the archlinux rollback machine |
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nrzkt |
this won't fix the problem |
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oats |
nrzkt: alrighty, thanks |
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nrzkt |
using source don't fix, even if you use irrlicht 1.8.2 and compile, i tested it yesterday, it's a huge bug with rirlicht |
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nrzkt |
i think this should be tell upsteam on arch |
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harrison |
a veterinary oncologist treating a porcupine with stage 4 cancer must remember that, while a cure is not possible, it is still important to maximise the patient's quillity of life |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
harrison: Is that supposed to be a joke? |
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SylvieLorxu |
I find it interesting people would consider this a joke, but would probably think this is serious if it said "human" instead of "porcupine" |
| 14:22 |
harrison |
the "joke" or humor-meme can be seen as an expression of contempt for others |
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harrison |
others who do not originate memes |
| 14:23 |
harrison |
edward snowden, jared fogle and a shetland pony walk into a bar |
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SylvieLorxu |
I, what |
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SylvieLorxu |
Okay, yes, go on |
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harrison |
the bartender looks at the pony and says |
| 14:23 |
harrison |
"why are you hanging out with THESE guys? they are not even part of the punchline!" |
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harrison |
edward snowden asks "what punch line? |
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harrison |
" |
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harrison |
the bartender continues |
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harrison |
"well, there must be a virus going around... |
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harrison |
I AM A LITTLE HOARSE TODAY MYSELF" |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
lol, and your last one was pretty good too, I just wasn't sure whether you had misspelled "quality" or not. |
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everamzah |
what is an ideal setting for num_emerge_threads? if my cpu reads four cores, should i set it to 4? does setting it to 0 make it unlimited? |
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nrzkt |
it depend of your backend |
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nrzkt |
i think using 2 threads is sufficient else you will have many locks between serverthread and the emergethread pool |
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swift110-phone |
Hey all |
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swift110-phone |
Hey |
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everamzah |
the backend is leveldb |
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everamzah |
thank u for the tip |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
swift110-phone: Hello...? |
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Zsolt |
Hey guys! |
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Yellowberry |
How's it been? |
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Yellowberry |
I recently got the legal version of Minetest on Android. |
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Yellowberry |
The controls could use some work, but it's a cool concept |
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Zaitabai |
legal version of minetest? |
| 15:31 |
DusXMT |
Zaitabai: Distributing modified (L)GPL'd software without source code is illegal, and there's people who do that with Minetest on Android |
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DusXMT |
But I don't think actually using such a thing is illegal, since it's the distributor violating the license, not the user |
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Megaf |
Oh dear, I have installed Hybrids dog Nether mod on my server and now I'm stuck in the Nether. How to I get back to the surface? |
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Zaitabai |
Wouldn't there be a portal, or a way to build one? |
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Megaf |
I think I have to build one |
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Megaf |
but I don't quite understand that] |
| 15:37 |
Megaf |
I think I will be stuck there forecer then :P |
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Zaitabai |
How did you build the portal in the first place? maybe look on the forums and ask the mod creator? |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/11, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms |
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Megaf |
Zaitabai: the portal to get there is easy, just obisidan |
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H-H-H |
megaf as far as i know its the same portal to get back |
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H-H-H |
you just go in from the nether side instead of the world side |
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swift110-phone |
How r u johnny |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
swift110-phone: I'm doing alright, I suppose. :-) |
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swift110-phone |
Good johnny |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm a little depressed after reading about the affects of drugs and alcohol in the TX drivers course.... :-/ |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Not that I do those things, it just is sickening, reading all the nitty-gritties of how it damages people. |
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swift110-phone |
Oh sorry |
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swift110-phone |
Yes i know how that is |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
MyLittleBrother - "John, Windows won't work.... |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
" |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
So, I went to the desk, only to find that someone had unplugged the monitor, and logged out.... |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I like Linux better, but that things like that are the reason 7 Geek Squad exists. :-D |
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* JohnnyComeL8ly |
wishes that the text would be able to be seen easier before being typed. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Right now, I'm trying out the 4c8o1l0o5r messages! |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Hello, Robert_Zenz. |
| 16:51 |
Robert_Zenz |
JohnnyComeL8ly, Hi. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Has anyone ever found a Nyan cat in the "official" MT game, while exploring? |
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Teckla |
JohnnyComeL8ly: I think I did. I saw a whole line of those rainbow colored blocks followed by a single cat block thingie. |
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Teckla |
(If I recall correctly) |
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Calinou |
JohnnyComeL8ly, only underground |
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Calinou |
by default |
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Calinou |
(for unknown reasons, probably so that they are even harder to find) |
| 16:59 |
Calinou |
JohnnyComeL8ly, 04did you say color? |
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Teckla |
Or perhaps I don't know what you guys are talking about :P |
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Calinou |
08Microsoft Works 97 |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
That's the irony... MS doesn't work...(as in, it doesn't Excel). :-D |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Teckla: Yeah, that's what I was talking about.... |
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Teckla |
JohnnyComeL8ly: OK, in this case, yep, I came across one |
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Teckla |
My daughter had to explain to me that the line of rainbow blocks was its flying trail or something. |
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Teckla |
(I dunno what a Nyan cat is.) |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Yay, point for Teckla! |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
;-) |
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Teckla |
My daughter loves Minetest |
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Teckla |
:) |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Well, at least it doesn't cost you... |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
like some other game.... |
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Teckla |
We both have Minecraft too, heh. Each has its pros and cons |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
One being speed.... |
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Calinou |
Minecraft is faster than Minetest |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
but Minecraft subjugates its users, whereas Minetest empowers them. |
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Teckla |
Ya? Other than start up time, I haven't noticed a big performance difference between the two |
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Xenoth |
Calinou: I cannot run Minecraft on its lowest settings on my laptop. Minetest runs at a good 25FPS. |
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Calinou |
Xenoth, on any decently fast PC, Minecraft 1.8/1.9 will largely beat Minetest |
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Calinou |
they optimized the client a lot |
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Calinou |
and Minetest got slower too... the server part is rather bloated now |
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Xenoth |
Ah, I only ever played older MC. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I guess I'm in the same boat.... |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Well, I'd rather be 3empowered! |
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Teckla |
Before mods, Minecraft vanilla is probably more interesting than Minetest. (At least, that's what my daughter tells me) |
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rubenwardy |
Teckla, Minetest is meant to be modded |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
lol |
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rubenwardy |
whereas Minecraft isn't |
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Teckla |
Yep, I have no problem with that, just reporting what my daughter tells me :) |
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rubenwardy |
ie: we want you to play with mods |
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rubenwardy |
whereas MC is happy for you to play without mods |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Most will just take a surface look and judge after that. |
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Calinou |
we try to make minetest_game as enjoyable as possible |
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rubenwardy |
I disagree with this philosophy however |
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Calinou |
but people keep viewing it as bare Fedora |
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Calinou |
(it's often said that nobody uses Fedora as-is, and that everyone uses RPMFusion, no matter how bad it might be) |
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Calinou |
likewise, many Minetest mods are really of poor quality, but we can't stop people from using them :) |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
(specifically, I wish mods were more... modular) |
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Teckla |
If you want to capture the "it just works" / "kids" market, fleshing about vanilla Minetest with animals, villages, villagers, Mesecons, etc. would go quite a long way. |
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Calinou |
I agree about mobs, but it's been years we want a mobs mod that doesn't suck |
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Teckla |
s/fleshing about/fleshing out/ |
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Calinou |
we need someone to make an entirely new mob API, not using simple_mobs |
| 17:10 |
Teckla |
Calinou: Ah, just waiting for the right mobs mod to come along, eh? |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
with a small set of mobs that has consistent looks, and good balance |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
yes mostly |
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Teckla |
Ah. |
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Calinou |
if the mod is good, it has high chances of being merged to minetest_game really |
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Calinou |
simple_mobs isn't suitable, it has too many bugs |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Ooh.... |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
like mobs not jumping when they should, or them sticking on ceilings |
| 17:11 |
Calinou |
(happens frequently with Carbone Mobs, my fork, and no idea how to fix it) |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Ow... |
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Teckla |
My daughter has been pestering me to write some Minetest mods. (I'm a Java software developer by day... please don't hate me) |
| 17:11 |
Teckla |
I guess I'd need to learn Lua |
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troller |
write java vm on lua |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Java just isn't C/C++ but it isn't evil.... :-P |
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Teckla |
troller: haha |
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Teckla |
Before Java, I programmed C for ... many decades :) |
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Robert_Zenz |
Teckla, as also a Java developer, I can tell you, it is easy. But you have to give up your neat little objects for the most part. |
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rubenwardy |
http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/ |
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Teckla |
Robert_Zenz: It looks like Lua's tables let you construct ad hoc objects pretty easily |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
That is way too impractical... a script language making a vm for another script language. |
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rubenwardy |
is obviously the best guide |
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Teckla |
rubenwardy: Thank you, I'll check that out |
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Robert_Zenz |
Teckla, yeah, kinda. it is not exactly the same, but quite close. |
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* Teckla |
was pretty amazed when he discovered Minetest and how good it is |
| 17:16 |
Robert_Zenz |
Teckla, if you want some code to read, you could look into my utils mod, I tried my best to keep it easily readable: https://github.com/RobertZenz/minetest-australopithecus-utils |
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Teckla |
VanessaE may in fact be my daughter's first non-family role model :) |
| 17:16 |
Teckla |
Robert_Zenz: Thanks! |
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Zaitabai |
Finally, some resources. Thanks guys. |
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CWz |
VanessaE is role model |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Yeah. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
rubenwardy: The docs look very helpful... I downloaded them to my webserver for reference. (Thanks for the mentioning.) |
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Teckla |
Currently my daughter is having a blast with the Mesecons mod I installed yesterday |
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Teckla |
She lured me into a Mesecons-powered trap |
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Teckla |
And she built an elaborate house using VanessaE's home decor mod |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Oh, did you just use /home ? |
| 17:27 |
Teckla |
You Minetest devs and modders really do rock. :) |
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Teckla |
JohnnyComeL8ly: Never used that command, heh. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Teckla: /sethome makes /home usable. |
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Teckla |
JohnnyComeL8ly: Ah, thanks |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Teckla: No problem. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Hello, kaeza. |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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kaeza |
rubenwardy: around? |
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rubenwardy |
yep |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Quick Q for y'all... How/when does Poison Ivy decide when to grow upon a wall? |
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rubenwardy |
!mod poison ivy |
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MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Poison ivy [poisonivy] by VanessaE - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=1834 |
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rubenwardy |
that one? |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Well, it looks just like that.... |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
It is on the LinuxGaming.us MT server. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
There is a mod, poisonivy, on there. (I determined that through /mods .) |
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Megaf |
!mod Nether |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Nether [nether] by PilzAdam - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5790 |
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Megaf |
!mod Nether Hybrid Dog |
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MinetestBot |
ValueError: Expecting value: line 1 column 1 (char 0) (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/json/decoder.py", line 361, in raw_decode) |
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rubenwardy |
!mod Nether Hybrid Dog |
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MinetestBot |
ValueError: Expecting value: line 1 column 1 (char 0) (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/json/decoder.py", line 361, in raw_decode) |
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rubenwardy |
!mod Nether HybridDog |
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MinetestBot |
ValueError: Expecting value: line 1 column 1 (char 0) (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/json/decoder.py", line 361, in raw_decode) |
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Megaf |
H-H-H: That is the problem, there is no portal |
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Megaf |
Fantastic, Megaf Server's owner stuck in the Nether in it's own server. |
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Megaf |
!up mt.megaf.info |
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MinetestBot |
mt.megaf.info:30000 is up (7ms) |
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Zaitabai |
M-may I laugh now sir? |
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H-H-H |
turn clipping of and fly up? |
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Megaf |
It teleports me back to Nether |
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CWz |
there is a chat command to escape the nether |
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CWz |
i think the chat command is from_hell |
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Zaitabai |
I nether thought I'd see the day. |
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Megaf |
CWz: it worked, thanks |
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Megaf |
CWz: anyone can use that command? |
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CWz |
it requires a priv |
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Zaitabai |
Just started modding minetest_game. I made a block. >Lvl Up!< |
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FreeFull |
Minetest segfaults for me straight away when I try to run it ): |
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Robert_Zenz |
FreeFull, you don't happen to see this bug: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3130 |
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Amaz |
FreeFull, try downgrading Irrlicht. |
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FreeFull |
Robert_Zenz: Seems to be exactly that bug |
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Robert_Zenz |
FreeFull, ar, let me rephrase that: Could it be this bug that you're seeing... |
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FreeFull |
Robert_Zenz: It is |
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j0el |
I am brand new to this,, My grandson wants to play minecraft and after looking around this seems to be better. I am on OSX 10.10.5 (Yosemite). I downloaded and installed minetest. no problem. It seems to run fine. But I cannot seem to install the tutorial properly. I first installed per the directions to $HOME/.minetest, but it was not picked up. So I moved the tutorial directory to games/ in the app. That seems to be f |
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j0el |
I was not sure where to put the tutorial_world so I created a world in the game and found it in /Users/jberman/Library/Application Support/minetest/worlds and put it there. Seems to work fine, but was wondering if I am making too hard or if the instructions need to be updated. Anyway, thanks for what looks to be an amazing game. |
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STHGOM |
that sound like a good way to do it |
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STHGOM |
that worked, right? |
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STHGOM |
i think .minetest would be hidden, btw |
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j0el |
Yes, it worked fine. and .minetest is hidden, but not that hidden. Also people may not know that they have to enable the right click on OSX in preferences. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Goodbye, everyone. |
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