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I've been trying to track down the missing output count in unified_inventory crafting guide. I believe I've narrowed it down considerably. https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/591 |
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est31 |
jhcole, can you bisect? |
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Pilcrow182 |
ah, I suppose I have experienced this as well then. ui's crafting guide doesn't say an output number for me either. I assumed it just wasn't programmed to, though... |
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est31 |
seems like a regression since https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/03e0dd33a847a83d975282c6caf6b926306e7b57 |
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est31 |
I can see the error happening |
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jhcole, can you try a commit for me? |
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Jordach |
yo krock |
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Krock |
yo Jordach :) |
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xenkey |
Hi everyone |
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xenkey |
Guess which game I'm playing |
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DusXMT |
Mindcrap? x3 |
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CWz |
what the heck is cowboyjob.com? |
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Krock |
CWz, that's a website |
08:30 |
CWz |
it eats messages from irc and poops it onto it's website |
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[git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest: Remove drivers dropdown in the settings tab a8c5841 http://git.io/vY0R5 (2015-07-25T10:41:04+02:00) |
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Krock |
How many circles are there? http://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Circles-in-squares.jpg |
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VanessaE |
16. |
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ElectronLibre |
16 |
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xenkey |
0. |
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ElectronLibre |
^ He is also right. |
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est31 |
Krock, none |
09:55 |
ElectronLibre |
Litteraly, no circle. In the illusion, 16. |
10:00 |
xenkey |
what |
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Krock |
est31, depends how you look at it |
10:06 |
Krock |
16 or 0 |
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xenkey |
it's zero |
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xenkey |
however you look at it |
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est31 |
I dont see any circles sorry |
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Krock |
xenkey, say again http://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/circles-illusions.png |
10:09 |
est31 |
only squares |
10:10 |
xenkey |
Krock: That picture does indeed contain circles |
10:10 |
xenkey |
OH |
10:10 |
ElectronLibre |
Look at the vertical borders of the squares. |
10:10 |
Krock |
:P |
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est31 |
damn |
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est31 |
OHHHH |
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xenkey |
Oh those circles |
10:10 |
xenkey |
Well |
10:11 |
* est31 |
only thinks in nodes |
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Krock |
est31, in nodes? umm.. http://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5639/2020/400/fashiopnplace.ru8.jpg |
10:19 |
Jordach |
the bench is from homedecor |
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Jordach |
:^) |
10:19 |
Krock |
xD |
10:22 |
VanessaE |
homedecor doesn't have a picnic table :P |
10:22 |
VanessaE |
at least not yet :) |
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Jordach |
something you can do |
10:24 |
Jordach |
chop chop |
10:25 |
Krock |
Jordach, could you make a portal mesh like this? http://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/vurdlak8/illusions/Arch2.jpg |
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Jordach |
it's possible |
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Krock |
ah? |
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Jordach |
Krock, only possible with orthographic depth |
10:32 |
Jordach |
check this out |
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Jordach |
http://jordach.net/Images/BlenderStuff/perspective1.png and http://jordach.net/Images/BlenderStuff/perspective2.png |
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Krock |
Jordach, I was just kidding - however, I can't imagine how it would look from another perspective while keeping the illusion |
10:35 |
Jordach |
hence the problem |
10:35 |
Jordach |
even in both perspectives: it doesn't work from other angles |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Cleanup server addparticle(spawner) by merge two identical functions. 4e6971e http://git.io/vY0yn (2015-07-25T12:24:28+02:00) |
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Krock |
www.findminecraft.com |
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Krock |
decrease sound volume first |
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ElectronLibre |
Ouch. Better not be epileptic. |
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xenkey |
lol |
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xenkey |
https://sr.ht/7497.png |
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Krock |
Join #minecraft and post it there xD |
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Krock |
xenkey, I know that screen.. firefox |
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xenkey |
lol |
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xenkey |
lol |
11:09 |
xenkey |
time to invest in a big red MUTE button |
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Krock |
seems like the flash updater is broken.. I can't update that stuff anmore :/ |
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Krock |
xenkey, why mute? It's much funnier (for other people) when you do max volume |
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xenkey |
lol |
11:17 |
xenkey |
Anyone want to mumble + play mt w/ me |
11:18 |
* Calinou |
has Flash uninstalled since January, 2014 |
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Krock |
Calinou, how do you watch YT videos then? |
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Calinou |
they work just fine in HTML5 mode; but you can also use youtube-dl |
11:22 |
* DusXMT |
hopes websites like livestream.com or picarto will eventually drop the Flash requirement... |
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est31 |
DusXMT, seen livestreamer? |
11:22 |
est31 |
it lets you watch things like twitch from the console |
11:22 |
est31 |
man if I had that back in 2011 |
11:23 |
DusXMT |
Sounds exciting... but unfortunately, I'd also like to participate in the chat, watching an artist draw and not being able to provide input is lame |
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est31 |
well, twitch will go html5 |
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est31 |
and the other services will too, soon |
11:24 |
est31 |
these days things go very very fast |
11:24 |
Calinou |
I have yet to see HTML5 live streaming... |
11:24 |
est31 |
HTML5 live streaming does work |
11:24 |
Calinou |
we still need a free/libre service for that too |
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Calinou |
:P |
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Calinou |
Twitch isn't one of them |
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est31 |
Calinou, HTML5 audio live streaming works 100% well |
11:25 |
est31 |
and video live streaming... |
11:25 |
est31 |
it works 100% in safari |
11:25 |
est31 |
but then there are chrome and mozilla |
11:25 |
est31 |
and they both say I think that they dont want to adopt adobe's HLS |
11:26 |
est31 |
but this is half knowledge, take it with a grain of salt :) |
11:26 |
Calinou |
maybe there are polyfills for it |
11:26 |
est31 |
yes |
11:26 |
est31 |
lemme see |
11:28 |
est31 |
http://rreverser.github.io/mpegts/ |
11:28 |
est31 |
so this media source extensions thingy is said to make native browser HLS support not needed |
11:28 |
est31 |
but problem is firefox doesnt fully support it yet |
11:29 |
est31 |
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps/Build/Audio_and_video_delivery/Live_streaming_web_audio_and_video |
11:31 |
est31 |
and Calinou there does exist an open source screen sharing site, check here: https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/Pluginfree-Screen-Sharing/ |
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est31 |
it has a shitty ux admittedly |
11:31 |
est31 |
but RBA and me have used it to squash bugs! |
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est31 |
works on a p2p basis |
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est31 |
ofc it doesnt scale |
11:32 |
est31 |
you can't have thousands of viewers |
11:32 |
est31 |
there exist other solutions that build a CDN based on webrtc |
11:33 |
est31 |
like bittorrent, just totally in the browser |
11:33 |
Calinou |
it's an experiment, not a real site |
11:33 |
Calinou |
yes, WebTorrent :P |
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est31 |
you can salvage the glue code used there for using it as live CDN |
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est31 |
making it possible to scale user count :) |
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Hirato |
plugin free screen sharing - and people say I'm paranoid for using noscript |
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dzho |
heh. |
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hah |
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Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12900 |
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Calinou |
now we have our own Herobrine |
12:40 |
Calinou |
Minetest 0.4.13 changelog: Removed MISSING |
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Krock |
Calinou, it's a nice horror story |
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Jordach |
it's a shitpost |
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Jordach |
creeper depends on mobs |
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Jordach |
which isn't shown |
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Jordach |
in the mods listing |
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est31 |
its a story |
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CWz |
breaking news Notch buys sweeden and renames it to Mincraftistan. |
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Krock |
CWz, let's buy an area on the moon and call it "Minetestia" |
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CWz |
great now proller will get there first and claim the area and call it freeminerstan |
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CWz |
*freeminergrad |
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^^ |
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MinetestBot |
[git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest: Fix FSAA dropdown option reset after changing another dropdown option ffd0ef1 http://git.io/vYEMR (2015-07-25T17:33:41+02:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix minetest.get_(all)_craft_recipe(s) regression fa1096e http://git.io/vYEM0 (2015-07-25T17:33:41+02:00) |
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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Fix MSVC number conversion warning 454a290 http://git.io/vYEDA (2015-07-25T17:38:04+02:00) |
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amadin |
How to set bones walkable, walkable = true, in minetest.register_node("bones:bones", { not help me |
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amadin |
? |
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dumdum |
Very slow loading of "Dreambuilder". Verbose message is: Lazily creating item texture and mesh for .... Any idea? |
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Calinou |
dumdum, did you enable "Preload item visuals"? |
16:52 |
dumdum |
No. Let me try. Thanks. |
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est31 |
disable it, it slows down |
16:52 |
Calinou |
you should keep it off |
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dumdum |
I am running 0.4.12 on ubuntu, and don't see this option in settings tab. |
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Krock |
true, there's no such setting |
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Calinou |
https://s3.amazonaws.com/freecodecamp/github-repo-growth.png |
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Calinou |
:D |
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Krock |
that curve.. perl. |
17:01 |
Krock |
perhaps one, big project in 2009 and that's it |
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dumdum |
I found the settings in conf file. Thanks. |
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freelikegnu |
is the minimap something that has to be enabled on the server and the client? I cannot find some clear documentation on how to enable this |
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est31 |
freelikegnu, only client |
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est31 |
you can disable it on the server though, if you dont want your clients to have minimaps |
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est31 |
you'll have to give according textures :) |
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freelikegnu |
many thanks |
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freelikegnu |
I built MT from git, cloned minetest_game, enabled minimap in minetest.conf, and started a singleplayer minetest game, but no minimap appears |
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Krock |
press F8 |
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Amaz |
*F9 |
17:58 |
Krock |
ah, yes. |
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freelikegnu |
cool :D |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi all |
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Sokomine |
hm. new repros on github may receive a license to start with. is it possible to add the license later on? if it's such a standard one as gplv3? |
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Calinou |
Sokomine, yes, GitHub just has a wizard to do it for you |
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Krock |
You are the owner, you can do what you want |
19:26 |
est31 |
^ |
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Sokomine |
not of github :-) i've seen that wizard when creating a new repro. but how about an existing one? |
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Calinou |
add LICENSE file yourself |
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Calinou |
(or COPYING, or whatever) |
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luizrpgluiz |
It would be great if the minetest allow multiworld through portals or by teleport command |
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Taoki[laptop] |
https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6915595 I believe this might be an interesting journal (the 7th paragraph especially). Curious what people think... hopefully none of that c**p might ever be related to Minetest or similar, but one has to wonder |
20:46 |
Taoki[laptop] |
(it's a journal about fanatics in governments, and the s**t they try to pull on people online, essentially... might endanger a few projects) |
20:46 |
Calinou |
>furaffinity |
20:47 |
* Calinou |
hopes he will find furry Minetest skins there |
20:47 |
Taoki[laptop] |
Right... and I just chose the worst website to link the journal from :P |
20:47 |
Taoki[laptop] |
But eh, who cares lol |
20:47 |
sfan5 |
>small text |
20:47 |
Taoki[laptop] |
Except for the fact that people also know my account on there now... eh |
20:48 |
Taoki[laptop] |
But yeah, my relevant worry is paragraph 7 I believe. Long story short, fanatics in governmnents might consider property in games... taxable, and legally owned. This can include... items in Minetest, that you trade with other players online... |
20:48 |
Taoki[laptop] |
Believe me, I'm scratching my head as well. I randomly read this somewhere today. |
20:49 |
Taoki[laptop] |
It makes me ponder why I am still on this planet. Like really... |
20:50 |
sfan5 |
I trust german courts not to say "yup, such useless laws need to be enforced for every € transferred" |
20:50 |
sfan5 |
so i don't really see it as an issue |
20:50 |
sfan5 |
but the fact that such stuff is a law is worrying |
20:50 |
Taoki[laptop] |
My main concern (it's not 100% certain yet) is if such a law can even be real, even if no one could ever enforce it. |
20:51 |
sfan5 |
and thats probably why it doesn't matter |
20:52 |
Taoki[laptop] |
Because if so... I legitimately don't know what I can expect from people on this world. Something is really, really wrong. |
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Taoki[laptop] |
Although, I THINK what I read must refer to in-game items tradable for real money. Then again, the government is trying to consider Bitcoin taxable as well, and other virtual currencies... so what's to say they can't go as crazy as this |
20:54 |
sfan5 |
lol |
20:54 |
sfan5 |
>trying to tax bitcoin |
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Taoki[laptop] |
I know |
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Sokomine |
Taoki[laptop]: it might be difficult to actually *own* something in an online game. to my knowledge, all those commerical providers take particular care not to *sell* you anything but a few more or less worthless promises. ebooks are extremly rarely sold for example. just borrowed |
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Sokomine |
Taoki[laptop]: and, after all what can you do if a server goes down? the purely fictional "property" will go to /dev/null |
21:13 |
Calinou |
most software is not sold, but licensed for use |
21:13 |
Taoki[laptop] |
A heads up: I googled a bit more on the issue, and apparently this doesn't apply to "closed-flow virtual economies". Only to items sold for real / external currency, where it can make sense. So my worries were unfounded... sorry. |
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est31 |
Calinou, ebooks are no software |
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notanewbie |
Is it possible to use the /spawentity command to spawn to a certain place? |
22:16 |
est31 |
notanewbie, yes! |
22:16 |
TBC_x |
I think this was recently added |
22:16 |
est31 |
^ |
22:16 |
est31 |
added this week |
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notanewbie |
So it's dev only? |
22:16 |
est31 |
so if you have a recent client, enjoy if not, update :) |
22:16 |
est31 |
yes |
22:16 |
est31 |
you can get nightly builds though |
22:16 |
notanewbie |
Okay, thanks! |
22:16 |
est31 |
whats your OS? |
22:17 |
notanewbie |
I use Windows 8.1 w/ Bing and Mac OS X Yosemite. |
22:17 |
notanewbie |
I have an old dev on the Mac. |
22:18 |
ElectronLibre |
The easiest way would be to get a build from the forum. |
22:18 |
notanewbie |
Okay. |
22:18 |
ElectronLibre |
Building under Windows is a pain and I don't think it's even possible under any Mac OS. |
22:19 |
notanewbie |
People do do nightly Mac builds. |
22:19 |
notanewbie |
I hate them though. They are usually buggy. |
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ElectronLibre |
Nightly builds will be buggy, because they're dev. |
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notanewbie |
But I barely use the Mac anyway. |
22:20 |
ElectronLibre |
But I assume it's really tied to the OS. |
22:20 |
notanewbie |
I think thats part of it. |
22:21 |
ElectronLibre |
Choose : https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=42 |
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notanewbie |
Okay, thanks. |
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notanewbie |
I'm using mesecon command blocks as dispensers... |
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notanewbie |
When will 0.4.13 come out? |
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ElectronLibre |
Sooner or later. |
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notanewbie |
:) |
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22:30 |
notanewbie |
True dat. |
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notanewbie |
So theres not definate release date? |
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GunshipPenguin |
If you join #minetest-dev, it says the 0.4.13 release is scheduled for Aug 10th |
22:31 |
est31 |
thats only a number for planing |
22:31 |
est31 |
if we find issues that have to be fixed before, we fix them, and stall the release |
22:31 |
notanewbie |
Thanks for the info. |
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notanewbie |
Oh. So is it almost ready? |
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notanewbie |
Is the latest dev release stable? |
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freelikegnu |
I compiled the latest git and it seems fine in linux anyways |
23:09 |
freelikegnu |
have had many less crashes than 4.12 release |
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