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* ipv6b |
needed libcurl4-openssl-dev instead of libcurl4-gnutls-dev and another compile |
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* ipv6b |
tries with make clean |
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ipv6b |
omg. After make clean, I did just do make and it only took like half a second. Awesome! |
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sofar |
are you sure it actually cleaned anything? |
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ipv6b |
sofar, no so my new attempt is downloading latest release from git as the readme says... |
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ipv6b |
sofar, these are my build options http://pastebin.com/wBbdiK8U |
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ipv6b |
ok...it announces...something I did helped. |
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ipv6b |
looks like players disconnect. I'll best disable server before people just fail connecting... |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
Got a raspberry pi 2 in the mail today. Just installed Raspbian and compiled minetest. |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
runs pretty slow, but its my first time building minetest so maybe there are some optimizations to enable that I don't know about? |
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VanessaE |
it's a RPi. it's not fast :P |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
rpi 2! |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
little faster than the rpi |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
should be anyway |
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VanessaE |
it's still a RPi. :) |
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VanessaE |
it's not exactly a Core i7 |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
minecraft pi is pretty responsive, but still does freeze everyonce in a while |
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VanessaE |
probably just lack of opengl accel on the rpi? |
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VanessaE |
(or irrlicht support for same) |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
said something about a software renderer |
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VanessaE |
that would be why. |
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VanessaE |
wasn't there something about OpenGL ES that needs added here? |
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VanessaE |
I can't remember for sure |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
saw something about that in the forums, but it was 2-3 years old and I don't know what the words mean anyway |
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Pilcrow |
ACSpike[Laptop], OpenGL ES stands for "OpenGL for Embedded Systems". OpenGL is a graphical library for hardware rendering, used similarly to DirectX in Windows (it's not quite the same, but I won't go into the differences). Basically, if you don't have OpenGL support, you won't have hardware accelerated 3D and the 3D processing must be handled by the CPU (which is much slower for those kinds of tasks)... |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
so opengl es is a stripped down api? which does minetest require? full opengl or will es work? |
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Pilcrow_ |
ACSpike[Laptop], I'm not completely sure. opengl es is a subset of opengl, so I assume it is installed as -part- of the full opengl but could also be installed standalone on some systems? Pretty sure you can install the full opengl on a RPi - which should cover all bases - but I'm not positive. |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
ok, I'll start my investigations there. Thanks! |
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Pilcrow_ |
^ actually, on further googling it appears a pi has only ES support. also, it would seem that Raspbian already has it installed by default. so I guess there's some incompatability between Minetest and ES? |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
ok, thanks again |
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ACSpike[Laptop] |
g'night |
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est31 |
w0w https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2379#issuecomment-89155682 |
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VanessaE |
holy shit. |
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VanessaE |
I'm glad I've been doing all this mesh nodes work on homedecor then :) it doesn't help the number of recipes of course, but it does cut down on the number of registered nodes and the number of unique textures being used. |
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VanessaE |
(and hence, total resources) |
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est31 |
yea, my theory for the ~ 1GB memory usage of minetest clients is this "initializing nodes" step at the start |
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est31 |
those should be cached at disk, but I'm not yet sure how to do it smart |
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VanessaE |
another thing that needs fixed is disabling the mesh cache by default |
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est31 |
mesh cache? |
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VanessaE |
enable_mesh_cache = false |
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VanessaE |
this costs 800+ MB on the client when Dreambuilder is in use. |
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VanessaE |
(if it's enabled) |
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est31 |
oh no |
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est31 |
/Cache 6dfacedir and wallmounted rotated clones of meshes |
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VanessaE |
RBA added originally as some way of speeding up how mesh nodes are rotated during the mapnode->mesh generation stage |
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VanessaE |
yep, that's it |
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VanessaE |
imho it is not a useful feature in practice |
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est31 |
yup far less mem |
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VanessaE |
idk why this stuff isn't ALL cached to disk |
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VanessaE |
and only the relevant data reloaded when needed |
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est31 |
yea. I'll do some crafting speedups, then I'll evaluate whether to propose enable_mesh_cache to default to false. |
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est31 |
either way, near the setting, minetest.conf.example has a reordering problem |
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VanessaE |
I already have it default to false in dreambuilder for singleplayer and I tell users on my forum threads for the two servers, to disable it there too |
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VanessaE |
but that isn't enough |
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VanessaE |
you know how users are :P |
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est31 |
yea :D |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Create PacketError exception and use it with ACTIVEOBJECT_REMOVE_ADD handler which can be unreliable aa340fd http://git.io/veIV5 (2015-04-03T08:53:31+02:00) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix players spawned at (0,0,0) in some rare cases instead of static_spawnpoint, if set 470de10 http://git.io/veID2 (2015-04-03T09:44:36+02:00) |
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Calinou |
anyone has a smart auto-restart script for Minetest server? |
| 08:17 |
Calinou |
one that restarts only in case of crash, not in case of Ctrl + C |
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est31 |
nope |
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est31 |
when I take my server offline, I just do crontab -e before |
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Megaf |
Hi everyone |
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gamemanj |
Hello. |
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Megaf |
Calinou: I think I could do that |
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Megaf |
Calinou: the script would monitor the log output for crash messages |
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Megaf |
if it saw a crash message, it would restart the server, if it saw a quit message, it would quit itself |
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est31 |
what does the exit code do in these situations? |
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Megaf |
I'm not sure |
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Calinou |
yeah, it should auto-restart only if exit code is 2 |
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est31 |
in bash, the exit code of the last process is stored in $? |
| 08:45 |
Calinou |
2015-04-03 04:29:17: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Player with the name "Admin" tried to connect from **.**.**.** but it was disallowed for the following reason: Misleading nickname. |
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Calinou |
hahaha |
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est31 |
so it seems you want some "RC=2; while ((RC == 2)); do minetest; RC=$?; done" |
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xenkey |
!server Zenith |
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MinetestBot |
xenkey: Zenith - The Second Coming | mt.3tm.net | Clients: 12/32, 9/15 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / zenith | Ping: 20ms |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
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Megaf |
!seen LazyJ |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: lazyj was last seen at 2014-12-22 14:57:47 UTC on #minetest |
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Megaf |
anyone else using Irrlicht dev trunk and luajit 2.1? |
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xenkey |
!server zenith |
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MinetestBot |
xenkey: Zenith - The Second Coming | mt.3tm.net | Clients: 11/32, 10/18 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / zenith | Ping: 17ms |
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xenkey |
2 much clients |
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Calinou |
xenkey, no shields on your server? |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
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Megaf |
!up mt.megaf.info 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
mt.megaf.info:30003 is up (8ms) |
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Megaf |
!up 178.79.130.6 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
178.79.130.6:30003 is up (6ms) |
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Megaf |
!up 178.79.130.6 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
178.79.130.6:30003 is up (8ms) |
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est31 |
!server Trepca |
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MinetestBot |
est31: ==TREPCA== | alket.mooo.com | Clients: 2/20, 2/6 | Version: 0.4.12 / minetest_game | Ping: 62ms |
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MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Remove errorstream logging on password change 1cb4045 http://git.io/veLpk (2015-04-03T14:01:41+02:00) |
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Calinou |
craaaaap |
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Calinou |
the IRC mod doesn't load |
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Megaf |
!server stuff |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: No results |
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Megaf |
!server Stuff |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: No results |
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Megaf |
!up 186.213.153.66 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
186.213.153.66:30003 is up (230ms) |
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Megaf |
there, is up |
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Megaf |
!server Stuff |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: No results |
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Calinou |
installed IRC mod successfully |
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Megaf |
tnt and default privs is all, tnt radious is 20, => 186.213.153.66 30003 |
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Megaf |
creative |
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est31 |
all?! |
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Megaf |
est31: give,creative,teleport,fly,server, that stuff |
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est31 |
you intend it to be a multiplayer server? |
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est31 |
and public? |
| 13:15 |
est31 |
then I suggest to restrict at least ban and server privs |
| 13:15 |
est31 |
otherwise people can do /shutdown, and ruin your fun |
| 13:15 |
est31 |
or /ban all joining players |
| 13:17 |
Megaf |
est31: like you just did |
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est31 |
yea |
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est31 |
:p |
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Megaf |
est31: is not public |
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Megaf |
join there and have fun with tnts |
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est31 |
ok |
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est31 |
I'm off doing dev stuff |
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Megaf |
set fire to everything |
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Megaf |
o/ |
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rubenwardy |
A bit harsh? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=174947#p174947 |
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ipv6b |
minetest.conf.example says unlimited_player_transfer_distance is deprecated. Thus I just use player_transfer_distance = 0 if I want players to see each other regardless of where they are? |
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rubenwardy |
Probably, or -1 |
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ipv6b |
I can try with both 0 and -1 to see if there is any difference. Thanks |
| 13:38 |
Megaf |
Hi LazyJ |
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Megaf |
bug fixed :) |
| 13:46 |
ipv6b |
Does anybody know of any mod which restricts players from venturing out of certain bounds? VikingCrafters was like that. Somebody told me that the admin just 'wanted to experiment' but I think it as a way to save world map space. |
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ipv6b |
VikingCrafters was popular because most players were happy just chatting and pvping sometimes, they didn't mine much... |
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ipv6b |
though just test is huge and I think it is only 16GB of space on it and I have a 120GB harddrive, so maybe map size is not a problem. |
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ipv6b |
Does mapgen 7 generate any world blocks at about 0,150,90000? |
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* ipv6b |
restarts server |
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LazyJ |
Good to hear, Megaf. That bug really had me worried. It would have created a huge headache for long established servers. |
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FreeFull |
ipv6b: 90000 sounds like it's too far out |
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ipv6b |
omg, Minetest client just managed to eat 8GB of my ram, but it somehow unlocked from that state and I opened the system monitor and choose "kill" for Minetest. Now I got my memory back :) |
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FreeFull |
ipv6b: I recall things only being generated in the area of about -30000 to 30000 for x, y and z |
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ipv6b |
FreeFull, yes when I returned to about -33000 thousand I wanted to see where the terrain is gonna generate. That's when the client started to eat my ram |
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FreeFull |
ipv6b: I have gone down to the bottom of the world before, but I don't recall the exact y coordinate |
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ipv6b |
Hmm I think I just reached the end of the world of mapgen v7 at x,y,30927 |
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ipv6b |
Nothing is generated on the next block and it won't let me pass |
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ipv6b |
I didn't know these were the limits. Is it true for all mapgens both old and new? |
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rubenwardy |
y] |
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ipv6b |
There I got my limit. Nobody can venture beyond 30000 in any direction :) |
| 14:34 |
rubenwardy |
Map gen stops at 30927, to stop issues, you can actually go on further if you can spawn chunks before the cordinate system stops working |
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rubenwardy |
!c (2**8)/2 |
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MinetestBot |
128.0 |
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rubenwardy |
!c (2**16)/2 |
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MinetestBot |
32768.0 |
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rubenwardy |
It would be nice to have a bigger map, but it's mostly for willy waving competitions |
| 14:35 |
rubenwardy |
Except for making life like maps of earth, etc |
| 14:35 |
rubenwardy |
Or even a countr |
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ipv6b |
Even from the furthest distance player_transfer_distance = 0 works alright. |
| 14:37 |
rubenwardy |
Making the UK would require 906km, ie: +/- 450,000. That's 15 times the range with have now. |
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rubenwardy |
* +/- 450,000 block |
| 14:38 |
rubenwardy |
*blocks |
| 14:38 |
rubenwardy |
906km from the bottom of britain to the top :P |
| 14:38 |
rubenwardy |
And america is many times bigger. |
| 14:39 |
rubenwardy |
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2013/09/minecraft-creating-a-map-of-great-britain/ |
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est |
dammit amazonaws |
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est |
no wget on different hosts allowed |
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est |
stupid thing |
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rubenwardy |
est31? |
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xenkey |
Calinou: nope |
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xenkey |
Worth adding? |
| 14:40 |
est |
I will have to resort to scp... :/ |
| 14:40 |
est |
or no |
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est |
just shouldnt copy paste urls |
| 14:41 |
est |
much better now |
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xenkey |
whats the issue? |
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rubenwardy |
!c (2**24)/2 |
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rubenwardy |
!c (2**32)/2 |
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MinetestBot |
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rubenwardy |
WIP opening paragraph for minetest.net, trying to explain the philosophy of this project: "Minetest is a blocky game and a game engine, inspired by InfiniMiner, Minecraft and the like. Minetest is all about customization - we want you to mod it, so mods are super easy to create and install. All the content in the game comes from mods, every block, tool and item. Minetest comes with a basic foundation set of mods called Minetest Game, whic |
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rubenwardy |
h you can then add on top of. We call these foundation sets subgames." |
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Calinou |
xenkey, yes, you can add shields |
| 15:04 |
Calinou |
it's more complete than just having armor |
| 15:07 |
rubenwardy |
"Minetest is a blocky game and a game engine, inspired by InfiniMiner, Minecraft and the like. Minetest is about customization - all the content in the game comes from mods, every block, tool and item. Minetest comes with a basic foundation set of mods called 'Minetest Game', which you can then add on top of. We call these foundation sets subgames, and there are many others to choose from. If you'd rather just play a complete game, you ca |
| 15:07 |
rubenwardy |
n download a subgame which contains a good set of playable content." |
| 15:08 |
xenkey |
it is indeed |
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| 15:09 |
est |
this would make a nice "about subgames" paragraph |
| 15:09 |
rubenwardy |
It is important enough to be on the home page. |
| 15:09 |
rubenwardy |
But yeah |
| 15:10 |
est |
yes its important |
| 15:11 |
xenkey |
you is important |
| 15:14 |
est |
? |
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| 15:32 |
Xack |
hi :) |
| 15:33 |
Megaf |
Hey |
| 15:33 |
Xack |
Calinou! |
| 15:33 |
Xack |
Megaf! |
| 15:33 |
Megaf |
Xack! |
| 15:34 |
xenkey |
Uh |
| 15:34 |
xenkey |
I just realised dotx.me is banned |
| 15:34 |
xenkey |
(from this channel) |
| 15:34 |
xenkey |
May I ask why? |
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xenkey |
It was a shell provider if I recall correctly, a few months ago |
| 15:40 |
sfan5 |
it's run by "that guy" |
| 15:40 |
xenkey |
? |
| 15:40 |
sfan5 |
also i don't think it was a shell provider |
| 15:41 |
ekem |
i think they are. |
| 15:41 |
ekem |
http://dotx.me/april-fool-shell/ |
| 15:41 |
xenkey |
It was -- I run it -- I ran an open docker thing which turned to shit as more people used it |
| 15:41 |
ekem |
oh a bad docker experience? |
| 15:41 |
xenkey |
Yep |
| 15:41 |
ekem |
what size vps |
| 15:41 |
xenkey |
Very bad |
| 15:41 |
sfan5 |
xenkey: long story, there is this one person that always causes trouble when not banned so we don't want to deal with them any more |
| 15:41 |
ekem |
what happened |
| 15:42 |
xenkey |
I was dumb enough to go 512M 1 core |
| 15:42 |
ekem |
did you run out of disk space? |
| 15:42 |
xenkey |
Small DO vps really shat itself but it was the abuse I was worried about |
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| 15:42 |
ekem |
oh yeah, i get ya |
| 15:42 |
xenkey |
Oh no, I had to shut it down due to IPv6 abuse |
| 15:42 |
xenkey |
sfan5: markv? |
| 15:42 |
ekem |
handling shell accounts is not fun |
| 15:42 |
xenkey |
I remember him asking for a shell |
| 15:42 |
sfan5 |
xenkey: *nod* |
| 15:43 |
xenkey |
It's true of any service open to the public |
| 15:43 |
xenkey |
Without security, no matter how trusted your users are, something bad is gonna happen |
| 15:43 |
ekem |
unless its like a wordpress. the people who even know what a shell account is are trouble makers |
| 15:43 |
ekem |
ALL OF THEM |
| 15:43 |
* ekem |
glares at the user list |
| 15:44 |
xenkey |
it's all locked down now |
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| 15:45 |
xenkey |
http://www.dotx.me:8000/ |
| 15:45 |
xenkey |
Proof ... |
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xenkey |
So locked down in fact I had to do `man iptables` to get do this |
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| 15:51 |
ekem |
man iptables must be fun |
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| 15:52 |
xenkey |
I lied, I use ufw :$) |
| 15:52 |
xenkey |
:^) |
| 15:52 |
xenkey |
and i still cant figure it out |
| 15:53 |
xenkey |
Oh |
| 15:53 |
xenkey |
It's more intuitive than i thought |
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| 15:58 |
Jordach |
oi, xenkey |
| 15:59 |
xenkey |
yo Jordach |
| 15:59 |
Jordach |
server address and port might be nice :P |
| 15:59 |
xenkey |
where? |
| 15:59 |
Jordach |
yours |
| 15:59 |
xenkey |
The topic? |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
xenkey, you had a server right |
| 16:01 |
xenkey |
I did |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
links |
| 16:01 |
xenkey |
Zenith one? |
| 16:01 |
xenkey |
mt.3tm.net it is |
| 16:02 |
xenkey |
If you're talking about the forum topic, I already said what I think of players making topics for servers they don't own... |
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| 16:03 |
xenkey |
my server's only been up for 3 hours |
| 16:03 |
xenkey |
Which means it segfaulted and my for i in $(seq 10); do minetestserver; done is only a temporary fix |
| 16:03 |
Jordach |
heh flat map |
| 16:03 |
xenkey |
works though :^) |
| 16:04 |
xenkey |
Yeah |
| 16:08 |
xenkey |
I think it's time to ban all the noobs again |
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| 16:13 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh dear |
| 16:13 |
stormchaser3000 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11716 |
| 16:14 |
stormchaser3000 |
SPAMBOTS |
| 16:14 |
* Megaf |
runs nmap in broadcast mode on the internet |
| 16:15 |
Megaf |
Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (256 hosts up) scanned in 77.20 seconds |
| 16:15 |
Megaf |
LazyJ: you are one of those |
| 16:15 |
Megaf |
xP |
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| 16:15 |
Megaf |
Nmap scan report for c-24-16-203-134.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (24.16.203.134) |
| 16:15 |
Megaf |
Host is up (0.0034s latency). |
| 16:16 |
LazyJ |
Ok...?? So what does all that mean? |
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| 16:16 |
Megaf |
nothing at all |
| 16:16 |
Megaf |
I have too much free time in my hands |
| 16:17 |
xenkey |
Standing in spawn and banning everyone who tries to kill me |
| 16:18 |
Jordach |
xenkey, add a literal ban hammer |
| 16:18 |
Jordach |
someone on the forums made one |
| 16:18 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 16:18 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: depending on where you are scanning from and who you might soon have less money or time on your hands |
| 16:18 |
xenkey |
Jordach: oh my god thats a genious |
| 16:19 |
xenkey |
genius |
| 16:19 |
Jordach |
xenkey, add admin armor, step 2: add ban hammer |
| 16:19 |
xenkey |
admin armor? |
| 16:19 |
Jordach |
no damage |
| 16:19 |
xenkey |
genius |
| 16:19 |
Jordach |
step 3: make arena for people to fight you for a prize ';) |
| 16:19 |
xenkey |
pure |
| 16:19 |
xenkey |
genius |
| 16:19 |
xenkey |
Hehe |
| 16:19 |
xenkey |
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 16:19 |
xenkey |
That's brilliant |
| 16:19 |
Jordach |
just don't hit Q |
| 16:20 |
xenkey |
Where's admin armor? |
| 16:20 |
sfan5 |
ohhh |
| 16:20 |
xenkey |
Doesn't it check privs tho/ |
| 16:20 |
Jordach |
some fork of 3d_armor |
| 16:20 |
Jordach |
xenkey, not sure |
| 16:20 |
sfan5 |
xenkey: make the ban hammer explode when it touches a node |
| 16:20 |
Megaf |
sfan5: it was an accident xP |
| 16:20 |
xenkey |
This mod adds a hammer which bans (kicks, or removes shout privilege depending on the mode) any player it is punched with. The user of it must have the "ban" privilege. Works with 0.4.9 and above. yeah it does |
| 16:20 |
Jordach |
git gud |
| 16:21 |
xenkey |
3d armor |
| 16:21 |
xenkey |
hrmm |
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| 16:26 |
xenkey |
I'm starting to hate my server |
| 16:27 |
Jordach |
xenkey, ez: turn PvP off |
| 16:27 |
Jordach |
if they want that, go play NeinCraft |
| 16:27 |
sfan5 |
nein |
| 16:27 |
* Jordach |
pets sfan5 |
| 16:27 |
* sfan5 |
pursr |
| 16:28 |
sfan5 |
purrs* |
| 16:28 |
Jordach |
silly kitty |
| 16:28 |
* Jordach |
pets sfan5 |
| 16:28 |
* sfan5 |
rolls around |
| 16:28 |
est |
!cat |
| 16:28 |
MinetestBot |
http://i.imgur.com/q4RPFjJ.jpg |
| 16:29 |
sfan5 |
aww |
| 16:30 |
xenkey |
sfan5: so could i get the ban lifted? |
| 16:30 |
xenkey |
And adding ban hammer now |
| 16:31 |
sfan5 |
Xack: the ban on dotx.me? |
| 16:31 |
Xack |
sfan5: wow rude |
| 16:31 |
sfan5 |
Xack: ikr |
| 16:31 |
sfan5 |
oh |
| 16:31 |
sfan5 |
xenkey: the ban on dotx.me? |
| 16:31 |
sfan5 |
Xack: sry |
| 16:32 |
* Xack |
cats sfan5 |
| 16:32 |
xenkey |
sfan5: yeah |
| 16:32 |
sfan5 |
xenkey: i guess so |
| 16:32 |
xenkey |
Thanks |
| 16:32 |
xenkey |
Lesson: Don't give out shells to kids :( |
| 16:32 |
sfan5 |
!unban *!*@dotx.me |
| 16:32 |
sfan5 |
hm |
| 16:32 |
xenkey |
Thx |
| 16:33 |
sfan5 |
looks like it's gone |
| 16:33 |
xenkey |
I'm not going to join with that hostmask, I just feel easier in the mind :) |
| 16:33 |
sfan5 |
!unignore *!*@dotx.me |
| 16:33 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: '*!*@dotx.me' removed from ignore list. |
| 16:34 |
xenkey |
no this is |
| 16:34 |
xenkey |
it |
| 16:34 |
xenkey |
im making this whitelisted |
| 16:35 |
xenkey |
fuck this shit |
| 16:35 |
xenkey |
Hate these kids so much |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
meep meep |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
xenkey, now |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
watch your 3rd position fall downwards fast :P |
| 16:36 |
xenkey |
Huh? |
| 16:36 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/nkmaum.png typical "house" |
| 16:36 |
xenkey |
Oh |
| 16:36 |
xenkey |
Well |
| 16:36 |
xenkey |
Players aren't important |
| 16:36 |
xenkey |
I'd much rather have a nice world |
| 16:37 |
Jordach |
xenkey, shut up shop altogether and help me :P |
| 16:37 |
xenkey |
I'd love to |
| 16:37 |
Jordach |
i already have a nice world :D |
| 16:37 |
xenkey |
I hate this admin stuff |
| 16:37 |
est |
xenkey, my server has tenplus1' protector mod |
| 16:37 |
xenkey |
Sure I'll help |
| 16:37 |
xenkey |
Isn't tenplus1 the Xanadu guy? |
| 16:37 |
Jordach |
xenkey, we have whoareyou a known forum member known for building cities |
| 16:37 |
est |
yes |
| 16:37 |
est |
also does alot of modding |
| 16:37 |
Jordach |
yes - the unmoderated server |
| 16:38 |
Jordach |
(you may want 0.4.11, as there's a hud bug present in 0.4.12) |
| 16:38 |
xenkey |
Yeah |
| 16:38 |
Megaf |
who is responsible for dotx.me? |
| 16:38 |
xenkey |
me |
| 16:38 |
Jordach |
!server Jordach |
| 16:38 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: Jordach's Public Server | jordach.net:30001 | Clients: 0/15, 0/5 | Version: 0.4.11-dev / minetest | Ping: 8ms |
| 16:38 |
xenkey |
Well i was less responsible before |
| 16:38 |
xenkey |
Joining now |
| 16:38 |
est |
when you place a "protected door", and an area is protected by players a,b,c, then only a b and c can open the door |
| 16:39 |
Jordach |
xenkey, i am working on updating a mod shortly |
| 16:39 |
est |
you have to manually disable the protector stones though |
| 16:39 |
Jordach |
xenkey, unlike most servers, i'm happy to pay for it myself |
| 16:39 |
xenkey |
Surely you need to pay for most servers anyway :-) |
| 16:39 |
xenkey |
Well in fact all servers |
| 16:40 |
Jordach |
xenkey, $10 a mo isn't much for me |
| 16:40 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: DO? |
| 16:40 |
Jordach |
ya |
| 16:40 |
Megaf |
xenkey: I like the website style |
| 16:40 |
sfan5 |
ic |
| 16:40 |
xenkey |
Jordach: Mine is free :) |
| 16:40 |
sfan5 |
that explains the ping |
| 16:40 |
xenkey |
Megaf: Thanks |
| 16:40 |
Jordach |
xenkey, tip: use /part to ignore IRC |
| 16:40 |
xenkey |
yeah I've used the mod before |
| 16:41 |
xenkey |
I like the chatter |
| 16:41 |
xenkey |
it's quite intelligent, unlike most |
| 16:41 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach, do you use a VM? |
| 16:41 |
Jordach |
might want to follow me to whoareyou's city |
| 16:41 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, VPS |
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* xenkey |
has a dedicated server :^) |
| 16:42 |
rubenwardy |
Yeah. |
| 16:42 |
Megaf |
Jordach: well, that's a VM :P |
| 16:42 |
rubenwardy |
Which do you use? |
| 16:42 |
xenkey |
sudo: apt-get: command not found |
| 16:42 |
rubenwardy |
Eventually I might need to host a HTML5 + NodeJS game online. |
| 16:43 |
xenkey |
I forget I'm on arch... |
| 16:43 |
rubenwardy |
:( |
| 16:43 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, i would ;) |
| 16:44 |
rubenwardy |
It's early days in development. :P |
| 16:44 |
xenkey |
Tarring up server and shredding box |
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| 16:52 |
xenkey |
It's gonna take ~30 min to copy all this shit |
| 16:53 |
xenkey |
Jordach: so 0.4-11 ? |
| 16:54 |
Jordach |
xenkey, commits just before Jan 2015 |
| 16:54 |
Jordach |
if you need anything, PM more or just poke me |
| 16:55 |
xenkey |
http://psycho.space/p/kxt8 |
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| 16:55 |
xenkey |
Alright |
| 16:55 |
xenkey |
I'll start le building |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
i need to install darkage |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
people seem to like it ;) |
| 16:56 |
est |
0.4.11 has other serious problems, if you have specific bugs with 0.4.12, then you can try master |
| 16:56 |
xenkey |
Yeah i was gonna say |
| 16:56 |
xenkey |
Jordach: Could I suggest a few mods? |
| 16:56 |
Jordach |
go nuts |
| 16:56 |
xenkey |
Some I wrote myself, some I nicked off the forums before the downloads expired |
| 16:56 |
Jordach |
sure, tar em and send em :P |
| 16:56 |
xenkey |
IN 27 minutes and 30 seconds |
| 16:57 |
xenkey |
wait i can just mv this to the web folder |
| 16:58 |
Jordach |
i also run a no refunds style of grief protection: |
| 16:58 |
Jordach |
didn't protect it? not my problem |
| 16:58 |
xenkey |
http://mt.3tm.net/minetest.tgz go huts :) |
| 16:58 |
xenkey |
nuts* |
| 16:59 |
Jordach |
The connection was reset |
| 16:59 |
xenkey |
500MB jesus |
| 16:59 |
Jordach |
>8mbps |
| 16:59 |
Jordach |
it'll go quickly :) |
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| 16:59 |
xenkey |
3>300kbps |
| 16:59 |
xenkey |
:c |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
i just get under one mbyte/s |
| 17:00 |
xenkey |
lucky :c |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
my server has 125mbps |
| 17:00 |
xenkey |
Where is your server hosted by the way? |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
xenkey, london |
| 17:00 |
xenkey |
Awesome |
| 17:00 |
xenkey |
Close to home :^) |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
hi Xack |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
most US players get decent PING |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
Xack, I run my server now |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
!server Calinou |
| 17:00 |
MinetestBot |
Calinou: Calinou [Europe/Paris] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 2/32, 2/6 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
#calinou @ irc.inchra.net |
| 17:01 |
Xack |
yay nice :D |
| 17:01 |
xenkey |
You guys have some repetitive bans... |
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| 17:01 |
xenkey |
but I won't comment |
| 17:01 |
Jordach |
xenkey, we had a person a few years ago with many bots |
| 17:02 |
xenkey |
tfw most of these match my IP |
| 17:02 |
xenkey |
That's BT's distribution system for ya |
| 17:02 |
Jordach |
yarp |
| 17:02 |
Jordach |
i has BT |
| 17:02 |
xenkey |
It's awful |
| 17:03 |
xenkey |
The ping is decent, around 40ms |
| 17:03 |
xenkey |
(That's low for me) |
| 17:03 |
Xack |
BT? |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
13ms from here |
| 17:03 |
xenkey |
British something |
| 17:03 |
Xack |
oh |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
Telecom |
| 17:03 |
xenkey |
That ^ |
| 17:03 |
Xack |
i thought it was a server hosting thing :P |
| 17:03 |
Xack |
i know that BT |
| 17:04 |
Jordach |
xenkey, i can't get yer mods :P |
| 17:04 |
xenkey |
Neither can I |
| 17:04 |
xenkey |
I blame online.net |
| 17:04 |
Jordach |
chuck the mods folder from the game or /mods/ folder |
| 17:04 |
Jordach |
drop em into pomf.se or uguu.se |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
uguu.se has temp files which auto delete |
| 17:05 |
xenkey |
hehe |
| 17:05 |
xenkey |
I know all about dem |
| 17:05 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/iisgmg.png |
| 17:05 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/zxrxwp.png mfw |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
:D |
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| 17:06 |
xenkey |
t-this is my other one http://a.pomf.se/bujrgu.png |
| 17:06 |
xenkey |
If I met this mark kid irl he'd get it |
| 17:06 |
xenkey |
a) bringing shame to the name |
| 17:06 |
xenkey |
"Mark" :-( |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
markveidemanis |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
go nuts on that nick |
| 17:07 |
xenkey |
^ |
| 17:07 |
xenkey |
That's him |
| 17:07 |
xenkey |
markv markveidemanis m4 |
| 17:07 |
xenkey |
Or m5 or something |
| 17:08 |
* Jordach |
is norfolk based |
| 17:08 |
xenkey |
USING MY PERFECTLY FINE DOMAINS |
| 17:08 |
xenkey |
Taught me not to share my stuff though |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
http://a.pomf.se/zochfw.png |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
wat |
| 17:09 |
xenkey |
lol |
| 17:10 |
xenkey |
sfan5: I hate to ask but... |
| 17:11 |
sfan5 |
? |
| 17:12 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/zxrxwp.png ... |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
¿ |
| 17:16 |
xenkey |
That's another of my domains |
| 17:16 |
xenkey |
But I think that's all |
| 17:16 |
xenkey |
Would you mind... :^) |
| 17:17 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/tgvbth.png |
| 17:18 |
xenkey |
Jordach: https://github.com/jschx/poomf.sh This is useful if you like pomf |
| 17:20 |
sfan5 |
xenkey: ? |
| 17:21 |
xenkey |
Could you unban mtcm also? |
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xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/znwyev.png |
| 17:21 |
sfan5 |
uh huh |
| 17:22 |
sfan5 |
i guess i can |
| 17:22 |
sfan5 |
!unignore *!*@mtcm.eu |
| 17:22 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: '*!*@mtcm.eu' removed from ignore list. |
| 17:22 |
sfan5 |
!unban *!*@mtcm.eu |
| 17:22 |
xenkey |
Thanks |
| 17:22 |
xenkey |
I just want you to know they're mine, not "his" |
| 17:23 |
ipv6b |
Will "server_announce = 0" "Automaticaly report to masterserver"? |
| 17:24 |
sfan5 |
obviously not |
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* ipv6b |
found it here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example |
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| 17:34 |
xenkey |
Jordach: The performance is really good, I'll upload a tar of just my mods |
| 17:34 |
xenkey |
See what you like from them |
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xenkey |
http://mt.3tm.net |
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| 17:39 |
Jordach |
the connection was rest |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
reset |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
Reply from 212.47.234.29: bytes=32 time=86ms TTL=46 |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
i can ping |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
but not read anything |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
http://p.pomf.se/6807 |
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| 17:40 |
xenkey |
ugh |
| 17:42 |
xenkey |
Lemme try another webserver |
| 17:43 |
xenkey |
usr/bin/python: No module named SimpleHTTPServer |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
apache works fine :P |
| 17:43 |
xenkey |
I'm not liking this |
| 17:43 |
xenkey |
Ewwww |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
my server runs it :P |
| 17:43 |
rubenwardy |
Apache is bulky |
| 17:43 |
rubenwardy |
I use it, though |
| 17:43 |
xenkey |
Hrmm |
| 17:44 |
xenkey |
I'm nginx all around |
| 17:44 |
xenkey |
I use Quark for my git repos though |
| 17:44 |
xenkey |
Since nginx doesn't have CGI support |
| 17:45 |
xenkey |
Jordach: What OS is your server? |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
Debian 7 |
| 17:46 |
xenkey |
Cool |
| 17:46 |
xenkey |
http://mt.3tm.net:8000/ try this one... |
| 17:46 |
Jordach |
nope |
| 17:47 |
Jordach |
upload em to a file host |
| 17:47 |
Jordach |
my connection will download em fast enough |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
I haven't bothered with remote media on my server |
| 17:49 |
xenkey |
sent you login details |
| 17:49 |
xenkey |
yfw that user has sudo |
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| 18:10 |
xenkey |
Cool FreeDNS name anyone? |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
xenkey, I've cal.it.cx |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
but I prefer nsupdate.info |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
is free/libre, has nicer interface |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
doesn't whine you to pay |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
.nerdpol.ovh is from nsupdate.info |
| 18:17 |
xenkey |
Nice |
| 18:18 |
Calinou |
c.it.cx was taken, just like ca.it.cx |
| 18:18 |
xenkey |
is there a .nou ? |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
there is .no |
| 18:20 |
Halamix2_wifi |
There was noip.something |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
no-ip sucks |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
has tons of ads, only 3 subdomains per account (5 for old accounts)… |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
really, nsupdate.info and hopper.pw are much better |
| 18:27 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: I think I just found a security vulnerability in nsupdate.info... |
| 18:28 |
xenkey |
oh god hackers |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
ShadowNinja, report it |
| 18:28 |
xenkey |
Do that ^ |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
and hax0r my mt.nerdpol.ovh subdomain |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
(-: |
| 18:29 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: It won't be easy to fix without causing browser redirect loops. |
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Calinou |
you can tell me in PM what it is |
| 18:36 |
xenkey |
Will Minetest work on Alpine? |
| 18:36 |
xenkey |
Im gonna RTFM before I do anything else with this server |
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sfan5 |
xenkey: why would it not |
| 18:37 |
xenkey |
because it doesn't have libc |
| 18:37 |
xenkey |
Or that's what i thought |
| 18:37 |
sfan5 |
every distro needs a libc |
| 18:37 |
sfan5 |
it just has a different libc |
| 18:37 |
xenkey |
this uses musl |
| 18:38 |
xenkey |
Gonna read the wiki before everyone makes fun of me.. |
| 18:40 |
xenkey |
This is great! |
| 18:40 |
xenkey |
Really fast to |
| 18:40 |
xenkey |
too* |
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| 18:51 |
xenkey |
Jordach: What's the maximum area a player can protect? |
| 18:52 |
Jordach |
10k areas |
| 18:52 |
Jordach |
for my serv, elsewhere 5 |
| 18:52 |
Jordach |
the "area" is 50*100*50 |
| 18:52 |
Jordach |
afaik |
| 18:52 |
xenkey |
Eh |
| 18:52 |
Jordach |
can be bigger if done by admins |
| 18:52 |
xenkey |
I'll ask whoareyou |
| 18:52 |
xenkey |
That ok? |
| 18:52 |
xenkey |
I found this nice island |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
he has the areas priv |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
he can go further |
| 18:53 |
xenkey |
Yup |
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xenkey |
mfw he doesn't know how to do it |
| 18:58 |
est |
there is the /area_info command |
| 18:58 |
xenkey |
Jordach: Can you also add treecapitator? |
| 18:58 |
est |
it tells you those information |
| 18:58 |
xenkey |
Ah nice |
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xenkey |
So I made wood and stone picks only to realize i have a full set of iron tools in my inventory |
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Calinou |
!server Calinou |
| 19:13 |
MinetestBot |
Calinou: Calinou [Europe/Paris] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 3/32, 3/4 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms |
| 19:15 |
xenkey |
!server jordach |
| 19:15 |
MinetestBot |
xenkey: Jordach's Public Server | jordach.net:30001 | Clients: 4/15, 0/6 | Version: 0.4.11-dev / minetest | Ping: 7ms |
| 19:15 |
xenkey |
yeye |
| 19:15 |
xenkey |
best server ^ |
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Pilcrow |
so, do falling nodes fall through unloaded areas? I've been playing around with trying to program a simple quarry machine or similar, but tested it in a world composed entirely of falling nodes. when it dug down about 50 nodes, the entire world started collapsing into the unloaded chunk and froze my game, lol. |
| 19:32 |
Pilcrow |
btw, xenkey, did you manage to get Minetest working in Alpine? |
| 19:32 |
xenkey |
Pilcrow: Didn't bother trying, playing on jordach's server |
| 19:32 |
xenkey |
I'll try later and let you know if I manage to get it running |
| 19:33 |
xenkey |
Note it's a server, not a desktop |
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| 19:35 |
xenkey |
3> crafts slabs >places them straight in the trash |
| 19:35 |
xenkey |
Right from the crafting grid |
| 19:35 |
xenkey |
ffs |
| 19:36 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/djupwo.png |
| 19:36 |
xenkey |
why does this happen? |
| 19:36 |
Pilcrow |
ok. I'm just curious, xenkey. fyi, musl *is* an implementation of libc, it's just not entirely binary-compatible with glibc... I assume that just means you'd need to build Minetest yourself -- which I suspect you were probably going to do anyway. I've not used musl before, but with any luck, it should compile... :) |
| 19:37 |
xenkey |
scw-548d32:~# apk info minetest |
| 19:37 |
xenkey |
minetest-0.4.11-r1 description: |
| 19:37 |
xenkey |
it's there! |
| 19:38 |
Jordach |
xenkey, slabs and stairs auto rotate to the face they were placed on |
| 19:39 |
xenkey |
Oh |
| 19:39 |
xenkey |
So I have to make scaffolding? |
| 19:40 |
Pilcrow |
^ it would be nice if they ignored the rotation code when being placed against other stairs or slabs... :\ |
| 19:40 |
xenkey |
yeah |
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| 19:41 |
Pilcrow |
but yes, xenkey, you'll need a node underneath the slab so you can point downward when you place it... |
| 19:42 |
est |
or use a screwdriver |
| 19:42 |
Pilcrow |
^ or that. |
| 19:42 |
xenkey |
Woop woop dungeon!!! |
| 19:42 |
xenkey |
Jordach: There any waypoints or bookmarks? |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
xenkey, there are two sethomes, one in the inventory, and one via /home and /sethome |
| 19:43 |
Pilcrow |
btw, hello est. did you lose your 31? :P |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
use travelnets for longer distances or related things |
| 19:44 |
est |
I timed out and rejoined |
| 19:44 |
xenkey |
ah, travelnets |
| 19:45 |
xenkey |
I'm going to need some more resources first |
| 19:46 |
Pilcrow |
Yeah, I figured, I was just kidding around. Although, -someone- was stealing letters from peoples' names yesterday... Maybe they'd want to steal numbers too.... ;P |
| 19:47 |
est |
13773RS R NU|V|6RS 2... |
| 19:49 |
Pilcrow |
¿sɹÇqɯnu os×ŸÉ sɹÇʇʇÇן uÊop-Çpısdn ÇÉ¹É Ê‡nq |
| 19:51 |
xenkey |
Pilcrow: nah |
| 19:52 |
Pilcrow |
É¥oÊ Éqonʇ ndpıpÇ-poÊu *Éup* qÉɔʞÊÉɹps¿ |
| 19:53 |
Pilcrow |
(ok, I'm done...) |
| 19:53 |
est |
Ë™suoıʇɔÇɹıp ×Ÿ×ŸÉ uı 'ooʇ ÇÉ¹É ÊŽÇɥʇ ÇsɹnoÉ” ÉŸO |
| 19:53 |
Jordach |
!rev É¥oÊ Éqonʇ ndpıpÇ-poÊu *Éup* qÉɔʞÊÉɹps¿ |
| 19:53 |
MinetestBot |
¿spɹÉÊʞɔÉq *puÉ* uÊop-Çpıpdn ʇnoqÉ ÊoÉ¥ |
| 19:54 |
Jordach |
^ help ful |
| 19:54 |
Pilcrow |
*ndsıpÇ |
| 19:54 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/pvaihe.png lovely |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
xenkey, :D |
| 19:55 |
Pilcrow |
^ giant tube falling into lava, xenkey? |
| 19:55 |
Calinou |
!rev umop-apisdn |
| 19:55 |
MinetestBot |
ndsipa-pomu |
| 19:55 |
Pilcrow |
lol oh no, I've caused a mess... :D |
| 19:56 |
Calinou |
!rev elgoog.moc//:http |
| 19:56 |
MinetestBot |
ptth://com.google |
| 19:56 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 19:56 |
Calinou |
!rev elgoog.moc//:ptth |
| 19:56 |
MinetestBot |
http://com.google |
| 19:56 |
est |
I like that one |
| 19:57 |
Pilcrow |
google ftw |
| 19:57 |
Pilcrow |
!rev google ftw |
| 19:57 |
MinetestBot |
wtf elgoog |
| 19:59 |
xenkey |
Jordach: Pilcrow: I dug into lava :c |
| 19:59 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/wwcwxp.png |
| 19:59 |
xenkey |
Worth it tho |
| 19:59 |
xenkey |
I love thi screenshot tool :) |
| 19:59 |
Jordach |
hahah |
| 19:59 |
xenkey |
3 diamonds |
| 20:00 |
xenkey |
I forgot how fun minetest was! |
| 20:00 |
Pilcrow |
xenkey, rule #1 in minecraft also applies to minetest: don't dig straight down. ;) |
| 20:00 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/yrfxqp.png seems fine to me |
| 20:02 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/egedck.png :D |
| 20:02 |
Pilcrow |
o_O how could you *forget* how fun minetest is? I've put more time into both playing and modding minetest than any other game (including the old Phantasy Star Online that I played for around 300 hours)... |
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SylvieLorxu |
Minetest is boring |
| 20:03 |
xenkey |
Pilcrow: Admin duty |
| 20:03 |
* Pilcrow |
gives SylvieLorxu a strange look :P |
| 20:03 |
SylvieLorxu |
Pilcrow: No, really, I have trouble staying interested, I just keep tabbing away, I'm not good in playing things without a real goal :x |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
Pilcrow, digging straight down works for me in Minetest |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
just /home quickly if you dig into lava |
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| 20:04 |
Pilcrow |
well, that works, Calinou. still best to not swim in lava anyway though... ;P |
| 20:05 |
xenkey |
I don't think you'd last as long in lava in real life as you do in Minetest |
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Pilcrow |
eh, to each his own, SylvieLorxu. Minetest is fun for me because I love creating stuff. With crafting, building, AND modding, I get to let out my creative side (although my music has suffered because of it; creating stuff in minetest satisfies my creative drive enough that I don't feel like writing new songs nearly as much anymore...) :P |
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xenkey |
ttp://a.pomf.se/bmzwjx.png |
| 20:16 |
xenkey |
and i have no pick |
| 20:18 |
Pilcrow |
xenkey, press F5 and write down the coords? |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
| 20:19 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/lihnzj.png i finds it |
| 20:19 |
xenkey |
nah |
| 20:19 |
xenkey |
Too much |
| 20:19 |
xenkey |
Too many diamonds |
| 20:19 |
luizrpgluiz |
:) |
| 20:21 |
luizrpgluiz |
this game is discouraging me to make server :( |
| 20:29 |
xenkey |
Don't do it |
| 20:29 |
xenkey |
Bad idea |
| 20:29 |
xenkey |
gateway to administration mayhem |
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| 20:32 |
Pilcrow |
a private server with friends is pretty awesome, but I don't think I'd want to run a public server... |
| 20:33 |
luizrpgluiz |
in the current version I had a big problem, I went to open the server, my map simply gave error and never uploaded |
| 20:34 |
luizrpgluiz |
that is, the map was not recognized in the current version |
| 20:34 |
Pilcrow |
if I *did* run a public server, I'd probably try to make one with no area protection, but limit people by only granting interact upon request. something like that would also need some really good moderators though... :P |
| 20:36 |
luizrpgluiz |
;-; |
| 20:36 |
luizrpgluiz |
:( |
| 20:36 |
* Jordach |
runs a public server for fun |
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| 20:38 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/vwfmso.png thoughts? |
| 20:38 |
luizrpgluiz |
that anger, I had done it, so now I'll have to start from scratch, should have backed up before giving this error |
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| 20:40 |
Pilcrow |
xenkey, looks like a nice little shack. you should make a giant secret basement under it and style it like a lab; make your own "area 51" :D |
| 20:40 |
xenkey |
Pilcrow: Way ahead of you bro |
| 20:41 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/whgcec.png bit of a dungeon but eh |
| 20:42 |
Pilcrow |
sorry about your troubles, luizrpgluiz. have you tried creating a new world and copying your old map.sqlite and world.mt into it? I had to do that, to save a few worlds that hadn't been backed up... |
| 20:43 |
Pilcrow |
oh, xenkey, was that dungeon already there, or did you build it yourself? |
| 20:44 |
xenkey |
Twas a dungeon already :) |
| 20:45 |
Pilcrow |
ah, cool. I love finding dungeons. I wish there was more variety though; it seems like there's only around 5 defined shapes and one is chosen at random when they get generated... eventually they all feel the same... |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
Pilcrow> if I *did* run a public server, I'd probably try to make one with no area protection, but limit people by only granting interact upon request. something like that would also need some really good moderators though... :P |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
would get quickly griefed |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
better enable areas, and give everyone interact by default |
| 20:47 |
Pilcrow |
that's one reason I like using the Pyramid, Ruins, and Mine Shaft mods too. I can't remember who made them though. I think Pyramids and Ruins were made by the same person. maybe Mine Shafts too... |
| 20:48 |
Halamix2 |
D: http://pastebin.com/gAhaZdqr |
| 20:49 |
Halamix2 |
it happens from time to time |
| 20:49 |
est |
Halamix2, are you on latest git? |
| 20:50 |
Pilcrow |
Calinou: I dislike area protection. I'd rather find a decent way around it. I like to build freely, and help whoever I can, without messing around with mod permissions and crap. probably the main reason I avoid other people's public servers, tbh. |
| 20:50 |
est |
it should be fixed there already |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
yeah, but without areas, random kids grief everything |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
I wouldn't consider hosting a public server without areas |
| 20:53 |
xenkey |
I wouldn't consider hosting a public server again |
| 20:55 |
Pilcrow |
^ which is why I'd make interact granted on request, rather than enabled by default; most kids will give up if they can't do anything. still, a better solution would be needed, to weed out the stubborn ones, lol. maybe interact should be request-by-email? lol |
| 20:55 |
jojoa1997 |
Hello |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
most kids ask “can i hav interact plz†and you give it |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
then they grief when you're not here |
| 20:56 |
Pilcrow |
hello jojoa1997 |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
I believe it shouldn't be hard to play on servers |
| 20:56 |
jojoa1997 |
^ |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
requesting interact by e-mail is way too complex, wastes everyone's time |
| 20:56 |
Pilcrow |
(the email thing was a joke, lol) |
| 20:56 |
jojoa1997 |
You could try like VanessaE and have them request in the forums |
| 20:57 |
luizrpgluiz |
Pilcrow: because of this error to the error also gave map.sqlite |
| 20:58 |
Pilcrow |
I probably won't be running a server anyway, jojoa1997. this is just hypothetical. I'm just trying to think of a way to have a decent experience without area protection. |
| 21:00 |
Pilcrow |
mainly, I don't like to -play- with area protection, and if I did try to run a server, I'd want one without that annoyance so that I might actually enjoy playing on it, too... |
| 21:17 |
xenkey |
I think by email is a good idea |
| 21:17 |
xenkey |
I think by telnet is even better |
| 21:17 |
xenkey |
Just to sift out all the kids |
| 21:18 |
xenkey |
And all the adults |
| 21:18 |
Tablet_One |
O.o |
| 21:18 |
xenkey |
and leave all the geeks |
| 21:18 |
Tablet_One |
Haha |
| 21:18 |
xenkey |
could be REQUEST <name> |
| 21:18 |
xenkey |
I am so doing this |
| 21:18 |
Pilcrow |
lol |
| 21:18 |
xenkey |
Seriously |
| 21:18 |
xenkey |
Right now |
| 21:18 |
Pilcrow |
even *I* don't use telnet |
| 21:18 |
xenkey |
Then all it takes is a kid to spam the shit out of your little interface |
| 21:20 |
Pilcrow |
maybe we should just open ssh connections completely, and have people use cat and sed to give themselves interact. who cares about hackers anyway... :P |
| 21:21 |
xenkey |
LOL |
| 21:21 |
xenkey |
+1 |
| 21:21 |
xenkey |
So doing this |
| 21:22 |
xenkey |
http://mtcm.eu/py/minerequest/ |
| 21:22 |
Pilcrow |
^ what is that supposed to be? I see an empty repository... |
| 21:24 |
xenkey |
Not anymore ya don't |
| 21:26 |
xenkey |
Thanks for the idea BTW |
| 21:26 |
Pilcrow |
lol nope. now I just see an empty readme. :P |
| 21:27 |
xenkey |
pushed now |
| 21:31 |
Pilcrow |
now if only I understood Python. I really need to learn it... :\ |
| 21:33 |
Halamix2 |
est, no, stable 4.12.12 (windows, sorry fo delay) |
| 21:34 |
xenkey |
Made another commit :) |
| 21:35 |
xenkey |
this is gonna be gud |
| 21:35 |
Halamix2 |
tomorrow (it will happen tomorrow as well, I know it) |
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| 21:38 |
xenkey |
why am i writing this |
| 21:40 |
Pilcrow |
lol xenkey. your code really confuses me. I have a decent understanding of a few programming languages, but Python is not one of them and I can't seem to figure out what your code actually *does* :P |
| 21:40 |
xenkey |
Try running it |
| 21:40 |
xenkey |
Twisted is exactly what it says on the tin |
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Pilcrow |
I guess this old install I'm running doesn't have a twisted.internet module. of course, I think my Python in here is from like 2012... :P |
| 21:46 |
xenkey |
http://pastie.org/10072540 |
| 21:46 |
xenkey |
Fun fact: Python 2 is supported until 2020 |
| 21:47 |
xenkey |
I hate brackets around if statements, I'm just not used to them |
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xenkey |
Anyway, made another commit |
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Pilcrow |
xenkey, ah, I'm understanding more of this now. is the secret keyword just "KEY" in your code though? lol |
| 21:56 |
xenkey |
yeah |
| 21:59 |
Pilcrow |
looks like it only displays messages for now, though. I assume you're gonna make it edit auth.txt and auto-grant privs? or maybe just add the player's name to a viewable document... |
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xenkey |
I'm faffing around in the least humane way possible |
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xenkey |
Trying to print the motd properly |
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Pilcrow |
lol |
| 22:12 |
xenkey |
I literally cannot put an integer in a string in any sane way |
| 22:14 |
Pilcrow |
really? is the typing that strict? |
| 22:15 |
Pilcrow |
you should program this in BASIC instead! *trollface* |
| 22:16 |
xenkey |
Sure |
| 22:16 |
xenkey |
I'll just scrap all this and switch to BASIC |
| 22:16 |
Pilcrow |
lol |
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xenkey |
hell, let's use assembly |
| 22:17 |
xenkey |
no thats too hard lets use binary |
| 22:18 |
Pilcrow |
assembly is a great idea! but make sure it's PDP-11 assembly, in a virtual machine. that's where it's at... B) |
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xenkey |
Twisted: |
| 22:23 |
xenkey |
fuck you |
| 22:24 |
xenkey |
You don't need a bytestring |
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xenkey |
can't concat bytes to str |
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xenkey |
hate you |
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xenkey |
Off to ##python I go... |
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Pilcrow_ |
my browser crashed. I'm back. |
| 22:43 |
xenkey |
hi! |
| 22:44 |
xenkey |
3>Using browser clients |
| 22:44 |
xenkey |
You at work or smth? |
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Pilcrow_ |
no, I just can't be bothered to figure out how to set up a client. I did it at one point, in a different computer, but I don't remember how... |
| 22:47 |
xenkey |
It's easy |
| 22:47 |
xenkey |
Look how sexy they are http://a.pomf.se/ipajry.png |
| 22:47 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/fkbqyf.png |
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Pilcrow_ |
xenkey, which client is that? |
| 22:51 |
Pilcrow_ |
irssi maybe? |
| 22:52 |
xenkey |
Pilcrow_: weechat :) |
| 22:52 |
xenkey |
Check this http://a.pomf.se/sdshrd.png |
| 22:54 |
Pilcrow_ |
I like the look of weechat. maybe I'll check it out. |
| 22:55 |
xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/nbbuhf.png |
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Pilcrow_ |
tiling wm? looks nice, but not for me, thanks. I'm fond of maximized windows. |
| 23:02 |
xenkey |
Mod+f is your friend |
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xenkey |
And that was floating |
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xenkey |
Er sorry that *was* tiling |
| 23:02 |
xenkey |
NHS should just give out apples |
| 23:03 |
xenkey |
They seem to restore normal bodily function |
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Pilcrow_ |
NHS? |
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Pilcrow_ |
oh, you meant national healthcare? maybe? |
| 23:11 |
xenkey |
ye |
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xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/hyoyrp.png |
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Pilcrow_ |
^ what am I seeing here? |
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Pilcrow_ |
weechat is being a pain to build. lots of dependencies I need to build, too. now I need asciidoc, guile, and ruby... -_- |
| 23:19 |
xenkey |
Pilcrow_: What OS are you on? |
| 23:19 |
Pilcrow_ |
an OLD one. |
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paramat |
dungeon generation is complex and each element is randomised, the variety is vast, effectively infinite =) |
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Pilcrow_ |
xenkey, it's Arch Linux (well, Chakra, to be exact), but it needs a new install. I haven't used this laptop in a long time. the 32-bit repos are done since Chakra switched to 64-bit only, and the last time it was officially updated was late 2012. I need to wait until I can afford more backup media though; my 1TB external is full... |
| 23:22 |
Pilcrow_ |
s/done/gone/ |
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xenkey |
Arch linux eh |
| 23:23 |
xenkey |
sudo pacman -S weechat :^) |
| 23:24 |
Pilcrow_ |
well, chakra is a fork of arch. it works mostly the same, and uses pacman, but it isn't directly compatable with arch repos. and the old 32-bit repos are dead. so no, anything I install must be built from source... |
| 23:27 |
Pilcrow_ |
I think I'll try to get KVirc working, since that's already installed; there's just too much I need to build to get weechat working... |
| 23:31 |
xenkey |
Try irssi |
| 23:31 |
xenkey |
looks similar |
| 23:38 |
Pilcrow_ |
eh, I looked at it, it's apparently pretty popluar, but doesn't have as nice a layout as what you showed me. meh. I might just keep using the web chat... |
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Pilcrow_ |
I wish I could find the cover by Pinball Jukebox of David Bowie's "Let's Dance", but it seems like it was only ever in the boxtrolls movie; I can't seem to find an mp3 or youtube vid of just the song... :( |
| 23:55 |
Pilcrow_ |
^ I can't find that cover, I mean. the original kinda sucks. but the cover is all creepy and melodic. |
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xenkey |
Holy fuck |
| 23:59 |
xenkey |
It's 1 in the morning |
| 23:59 |
xenkey |
Shit |
