Time Nick Message 00:33 * ipv6b needed libcurl4-openssl-dev instead of libcurl4-gnutls-dev and another compile 00:40 * ipv6b tries with make clean 00:41 ipv6b omg. After make clean, I did just do make and it only took like half a second. Awesome! 00:43 sofar are you sure it actually cleaned anything? 01:00 ipv6b sofar, no so my new attempt is downloading latest release from git as the readme says... 01:09 ipv6b sofar, these are my build options http://pastebin.com/wBbdiK8U 01:29 ipv6b ok...it announces...something I did helped. 01:44 ipv6b looks like players disconnect. I'll best disable server before people just fail connecting... 01:52 ACSpike[Laptop] Got a raspberry pi 2 in the mail today. Just installed Raspbian and compiled minetest. 01:54 ACSpike[Laptop] runs pretty slow, but its my first time building minetest so maybe there are some optimizations to enable that I don't know about? 01:54 VanessaE it's a RPi. it's not fast :P 01:55 ACSpike[Laptop] rpi 2! 01:56 ACSpike[Laptop] little faster than the rpi 01:56 ACSpike[Laptop] should be anyway 01:56 VanessaE it's still a RPi. :) 01:56 VanessaE it's not exactly a Core i7 01:59 ACSpike[Laptop] minecraft pi is pretty responsive, but still does freeze everyonce in a while 02:00 VanessaE probably just lack of opengl accel on the rpi? 02:01 VanessaE (or irrlicht support for same) 02:01 ACSpike[Laptop] said something about a software renderer 02:01 VanessaE that would be why. 02:01 VanessaE wasn't there something about OpenGL ES that needs added here? 02:01 VanessaE I can't remember for sure 02:02 ACSpike[Laptop] saw something about that in the forums, but it was 2-3 years old and I don't know what the words mean anyway 02:11 Pilcrow ACSpike[Laptop], OpenGL ES stands for "OpenGL for Embedded Systems". OpenGL is a graphical library for hardware rendering, used similarly to DirectX in Windows (it's not quite the same, but I won't go into the differences). Basically, if you don't have OpenGL support, you won't have hardware accelerated 3D and the 3D processing must be handled by the CPU (which is much slower for those kinds of tasks)... 02:18 ACSpike[Laptop] so opengl es is a stripped down api? which does minetest require? full opengl or will es work? 02:26 Pilcrow_ ACSpike[Laptop], I'm not completely sure. opengl es is a subset of opengl, so I assume it is installed as -part- of the full opengl but could also be installed standalone on some systems? Pretty sure you can install the full opengl on a RPi - which should cover all bases - but I'm not positive. 02:33 ACSpike[Laptop] ok, I'll start my investigations there. Thanks! 02:33 Pilcrow_ ^ actually, on further googling it appears a pi has only ES support. also, it would seem that Raspbian already has it installed by default. so I guess there's some incompatability between Minetest and ES? 02:34 ACSpike[Laptop] ok, thanks again 02:34 ACSpike[Laptop] g'night 04:10 est31 w0w https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2379#issuecomment-89155682 04:30 VanessaE holy shit. 04:35 VanessaE I'm glad I've been doing all this mesh nodes work on homedecor then :) it doesn't help the number of recipes of course, but it does cut down on the number of registered nodes and the number of unique textures being used. 04:35 VanessaE (and hence, total resources) 04:36 est31 yea, my theory for the ~ 1GB memory usage of minetest clients is this "initializing nodes" step at the start 04:38 est31 those should be cached at disk, but I'm not yet sure how to do it smart 04:38 VanessaE another thing that needs fixed is disabling the mesh cache by default 04:39 est31 mesh cache? 04:39 VanessaE enable_mesh_cache = false 04:39 VanessaE this costs 800+ MB on the client when Dreambuilder is in use. 04:39 VanessaE (if it's enabled) 04:39 est31 oh no 04:40 est31 /Cache 6dfacedir and wallmounted rotated clones of meshes 04:40 VanessaE RBA added originally as some way of speeding up how mesh nodes are rotated during the mapnode->mesh generation stage 04:40 VanessaE yep, that's it 04:40 VanessaE imho it is not a useful feature in practice 04:43 est31 yup far less mem 04:44 VanessaE idk why this stuff isn't ALL cached to disk 04:45 VanessaE and only the relevant data reloaded when needed 04:48 est31 yea. I'll do some crafting speedups, then I'll evaluate whether to propose enable_mesh_cache to default to false. 04:48 est31 either way, near the setting, minetest.conf.example has a reordering problem 04:49 VanessaE I already have it default to false in dreambuilder for singleplayer and I tell users on my forum threads for the two servers, to disable it there too 04:49 VanessaE but that isn't enough 04:49 VanessaE you know how users are :P 04:49 est31 yea :D 06:57 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Create PacketError exception and use it with ACTIVEOBJECT_REMOVE_ADD handler which can be unreliable 13aa340fd http://git.io/veIV5 (152015-04-03T08:53:31+02:00) 07:46 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix players spawned at (0,0,0) in some rare cases instead of static_spawnpoint, if set 13470de10 http://git.io/veID2 (152015-04-03T09:44:36+02:00) 08:17 Calinou anyone has a smart auto-restart script for Minetest server? 08:17 Calinou one that restarts only in case of crash, not in case of Ctrl + C 08:22 est31 nope 08:23 est31 when I take my server offline, I just do crontab -e before 08:28 Megaf Hi everyone 08:28 gamemanj Hello. 08:29 Megaf Calinou: I think I could do that 08:30 Megaf Calinou: the script would monitor the log output for crash messages 08:30 Megaf if it saw a crash message, it would restart the server, if it saw a quit message, it would quit itself 08:31 est31 what does the exit code do in these situations? 08:34 Megaf I'm not sure 08:42 Calinou yeah, it should auto-restart only if exit code is 2 08:43 est31 in bash, the exit code of the last process is stored in $? 08:45 Calinou 2015-04-03 04:29:17: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Player with the name "Admin" tried to connect from **.**.**.** but it was disallowed for the following reason: Misleading nickname. 08:45 Calinou hahaha 08:47 est31 so it seems you want some "RC=2; while ((RC == 2)); do minetest; RC=$?; done" 09:38 xenkey !server Zenith 09:38 MinetestBot xenkey: Zenith - The Second Coming | mt.3tm.net | Clients: 12/32, 9/15 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / zenith | Ping: 20ms 10:44 Megaf !server Megaf 10:44 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms 10:50 Megaf !seen LazyJ 10:50 MinetestBot Megaf: lazyj was last seen at 2014-12-22 14:57:47 UTC on #minetest 10:57 Megaf anyone else using Irrlicht dev trunk and luajit 2.1? 10:57 xenkey !server zenith 10:57 MinetestBot xenkey: Zenith - The Second Coming | mt.3tm.net | Clients: 11/32, 10/18 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / zenith | Ping: 17ms 10:58 xenkey 2 much clients 11:03 Calinou xenkey, no shields on your server? 11:57 Megaf !server Megaf 11:57 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms 11:57 Megaf !up mt.megaf.info 30003 11:57 MinetestBot mt.megaf.info:30003 is up (8ms) 11:59 Megaf !up 178.79.130.6 30003 11:59 MinetestBot 178.79.130.6:30003 is up (6ms) 11:59 Megaf !up 178.79.130.6 30003 11:59 MinetestBot 178.79.130.6:30003 is up (8ms) 11:59 est31 !server Trepca 11:59 MinetestBot est31: ==TREPCA== | alket.mooo.com | Clients: 2/20, 2/6 | Version: 0.4.12 / minetest_game | Ping: 62ms 12:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove errorstream logging on password change 131cb4045 http://git.io/veLpk (152015-04-03T14:01:41+02:00) 12:06 Calinou craaaaap 12:06 Calinou the IRC mod doesn't load 12:19 Megaf !server stuff 12:19 MinetestBot Megaf: No results 12:19 Megaf !server Stuff 12:19 MinetestBot Megaf: No results 12:20 Megaf !up 186.213.153.66 30003 12:20 MinetestBot 186.213.153.66:30003 is up (230ms) 12:20 Megaf there, is up 12:20 Megaf !server Stuff 12:20 MinetestBot Megaf: No results 12:21 Calinou installed IRC mod successfully 12:44 Megaf tnt and default privs is all, tnt radious is 20, => 186.213.153.66 30003 12:44 Megaf creative 12:52 est31 all?! 13:09 Megaf est31: give,creative,teleport,fly,server, that stuff 13:14 est31 you intend it to be a multiplayer server? 13:14 est31 and public? 13:15 est31 then I suggest to restrict at least ban and server privs 13:15 est31 otherwise people can do /shutdown, and ruin your fun 13:15 est31 or /ban all joining players 13:17 Megaf est31: like you just did 13:17 est31 yea 13:17 est31 :p 13:17 Megaf est31: is not public 13:17 Megaf join there and have fun with tnts 13:17 est31 ok 13:18 est31 I'm off doing dev stuff 13:18 Megaf set fire to everything 13:18 Megaf o/ 13:30 rubenwardy A bit harsh? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=174947#p174947 13:33 ipv6b minetest.conf.example says unlimited_player_transfer_distance is deprecated. Thus I just use player_transfer_distance = 0 if I want players to see each other regardless of where they are? 13:33 rubenwardy Probably, or -1 13:34 ipv6b I can try with both 0 and -1 to see if there is any difference. Thanks 13:38 Megaf Hi LazyJ 13:38 Megaf bug fixed :) 13:46 ipv6b Does anybody know of any mod which restricts players from venturing out of certain bounds? VikingCrafters was like that. Somebody told me that the admin just 'wanted to experiment' but I think it as a way to save world map space. 13:47 ipv6b VikingCrafters was popular because most players were happy just chatting and pvping sometimes, they didn't mine much... 13:48 ipv6b though just test is huge and I think it is only 16GB of space on it and I have a 120GB harddrive, so maybe map size is not a problem. 13:56 ipv6b Does mapgen 7 generate any world blocks at about 0,150,90000? 13:57 * ipv6b restarts server 14:00 LazyJ Good to hear, Megaf. That bug really had me worried. It would have created a huge headache for long established servers. 14:17 FreeFull ipv6b: 90000 sounds like it's too far out 14:17 ipv6b omg, Minetest client just managed to eat 8GB of my ram, but it somehow unlocked from that state and I opened the system monitor and choose "kill" for Minetest. Now I got my memory back :) 14:17 FreeFull ipv6b: I recall things only being generated in the area of about -30000 to 30000 for x, y and z 14:18 ipv6b FreeFull, yes when I returned to about -33000 thousand I wanted to see where the terrain is gonna generate. That's when the client started to eat my ram 14:18 FreeFull ipv6b: I have gone down to the bottom of the world before, but I don't recall the exact y coordinate 14:25 ipv6b Hmm I think I just reached the end of the world of mapgen v7 at x,y,30927 14:25 ipv6b Nothing is generated on the next block and it won't let me pass 14:27 ipv6b I didn't know these were the limits. Is it true for all mapgens both old and new? 14:30 rubenwardy y] 14:32 ipv6b There I got my limit. Nobody can venture beyond 30000 in any direction :) 14:34 rubenwardy Map gen stops at 30927, to stop issues, you can actually go on further if you can spawn chunks before the cordinate system stops working 14:34 rubenwardy !c (2**8)/2 14:34 MinetestBot 128.0 14:34 rubenwardy !c (2**16)/2 14:34 MinetestBot 32768.0 14:35 rubenwardy It would be nice to have a bigger map, but it's mostly for willy waving competitions 14:35 rubenwardy Except for making life like maps of earth, etc 14:35 rubenwardy Or even a countr 14:37 ipv6b Even from the furthest distance player_transfer_distance = 0 works alright. 14:37 rubenwardy Making the UK would require 906km, ie: +/- 450,000. That's 15 times the range with have now. 14:38 rubenwardy * +/- 450,000 block 14:38 rubenwardy *blocks 14:38 rubenwardy 906km from the bottom of britain to the top :P 14:38 rubenwardy And america is many times bigger. 14:39 rubenwardy https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2013/09/minecraft-creating-a-map-of-great-britain/ 14:39 est dammit amazonaws 14:39 est no wget on different hosts allowed 14:39 est stupid thing 14:39 rubenwardy est31? 14:40 xenkey Calinou: nope 14:40 xenkey Worth adding? 14:40 est I will have to resort to scp... :/ 14:40 est or no 14:41 est just shouldnt copy paste urls 14:41 est much better now 14:41 xenkey whats the issue? 14:44 rubenwardy !c (2**24)/2 14:44 MinetestBot 8388608.0 14:44 rubenwardy !c (2**32)/2 14:44 MinetestBot 2147483648.0 15:01 rubenwardy WIP opening paragraph for minetest.net, trying to explain the philosophy of this project: "Minetest is a blocky game and a game engine, inspired by InfiniMiner, Minecraft and the like. Minetest is all about customization - we want you to mod it, so mods are super easy to create and install. All the content in the game comes from mods, every block, tool and item. Minetest comes with a basic foundation set of mods called Minetest Game, whic 15:01 rubenwardy h you can then add on top of. We call these foundation sets subgames." 15:04 Calinou xenkey, yes, you can add shields 15:04 Calinou it's more complete than just having armor 15:07 rubenwardy "Minetest is a blocky game and a game engine, inspired by InfiniMiner, Minecraft and the like. Minetest is about customization - all the content in the game comes from mods, every block, tool and item. Minetest comes with a basic foundation set of mods called 'Minetest Game', which you can then add on top of. We call these foundation sets subgames, and there are many others to choose from. If you'd rather just play a complete game, you ca 15:07 rubenwardy n download a subgame which contains a good set of playable content." 15:08 xenkey it is indeed 15:09 est this would make a nice "about subgames" paragraph 15:09 rubenwardy It is important enough to be on the home page. 15:09 rubenwardy But yeah 15:10 est yes its important 15:11 xenkey you is important 15:14 est ? 15:32 Xack hi :) 15:33 Megaf Hey 15:33 Xack Calinou! 15:33 Xack Megaf! 15:33 Megaf Xack! 15:34 xenkey Uh 15:34 xenkey I just realised dotx.me is banned 15:34 xenkey (from this channel) 15:34 xenkey May I ask why? 15:34 xenkey It was a shell provider if I recall correctly, a few months ago 15:40 sfan5 it's run by "that guy" 15:40 xenkey ? 15:40 sfan5 also i don't think it was a shell provider 15:41 ekem i think they are. 15:41 ekem http://dotx.me/april-fool-shell/ 15:41 xenkey It was -- I run it -- I ran an open docker thing which turned to shit as more people used it 15:41 ekem oh a bad docker experience? 15:41 xenkey Yep 15:41 ekem what size vps 15:41 xenkey Very bad 15:41 sfan5 xenkey: long story, there is this one person that always causes trouble when not banned so we don't want to deal with them any more 15:41 ekem what happened 15:42 xenkey I was dumb enough to go 512M 1 core 15:42 ekem did you run out of disk space? 15:42 xenkey Small DO vps really shat itself but it was the abuse I was worried about 15:42 ekem oh yeah, i get ya 15:42 xenkey Oh no, I had to shut it down due to IPv6 abuse 15:42 xenkey sfan5: markv? 15:42 ekem handling shell accounts is not fun 15:42 xenkey I remember him asking for a shell 15:42 sfan5 xenkey: *nod* 15:43 xenkey It's true of any service open to the public 15:43 xenkey Without security, no matter how trusted your users are, something bad is gonna happen 15:43 ekem unless its like a wordpress. the people who even know what a shell account is are trouble makers 15:43 ekem ALL OF THEM 15:43 * ekem glares at the user list 15:44 xenkey it's all locked down now 15:45 xenkey http://www.dotx.me:8000/ 15:45 xenkey Proof ... 15:46 xenkey So locked down in fact I had to do `man iptables` to get do this 15:51 ekem man iptables must be fun 15:52 xenkey I lied, I use ufw :$) 15:52 xenkey :^) 15:52 xenkey and i still cant figure it out 15:53 xenkey Oh 15:53 xenkey It's more intuitive than i thought 15:58 Jordach oi, xenkey 15:59 xenkey yo Jordach 15:59 Jordach server address and port might be nice :P 15:59 xenkey where? 15:59 Jordach yours 15:59 xenkey The topic? 16:01 Jordach xenkey, you had a server right 16:01 xenkey I did 16:01 Jordach links 16:01 xenkey Zenith one? 16:01 xenkey mt.3tm.net it is 16:02 xenkey If you're talking about the forum topic, I already said what I think of players making topics for servers they don't own... 16:03 xenkey my server's only been up for 3 hours 16:03 xenkey Which means it segfaulted and my for i in $(seq 10); do minetestserver; done is only a temporary fix 16:03 Jordach heh flat map 16:03 xenkey works though :^) 16:04 xenkey Yeah 16:08 xenkey I think it's time to ban all the noobs again 16:13 stormchaser3000 oh dear 16:13 stormchaser3000 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11716 16:14 stormchaser3000 SPAMBOTS 16:14 * Megaf runs nmap in broadcast mode on the internet 16:15 Megaf Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (256 hosts up) scanned in 77.20 seconds 16:15 Megaf LazyJ: you are one of those 16:15 Megaf xP 16:15 Megaf Nmap scan report for c-24-16-203-134.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (24.16.203.134) 16:15 Megaf Host is up (0.0034s latency). 16:16 LazyJ Ok...?? So what does all that mean? 16:16 Megaf nothing at all 16:16 Megaf I have too much free time in my hands 16:17 xenkey Standing in spawn and banning everyone who tries to kill me 16:18 Jordach xenkey, add a literal ban hammer 16:18 Jordach someone on the forums made one 16:18 sfan5 ^ 16:18 sfan5 Megaf: depending on where you are scanning from and who you might soon have less money or time on your hands 16:18 xenkey Jordach: oh my god thats a genious 16:19 xenkey genius 16:19 Jordach xenkey, add admin armor, step 2: add ban hammer 16:19 xenkey admin armor? 16:19 Jordach no damage 16:19 xenkey genius 16:19 Jordach step 3: make arena for people to fight you for a prize ';) 16:19 xenkey pure 16:19 xenkey genius 16:19 xenkey Hehe 16:19 xenkey Hahahahahahahahahahahaha 16:19 xenkey That's brilliant 16:19 Jordach just don't hit Q 16:20 xenkey Where's admin armor? 16:20 sfan5 ohhh 16:20 xenkey Doesn't it check privs tho/ 16:20 Jordach some fork of 3d_armor 16:20 Jordach xenkey, not sure 16:20 sfan5 xenkey: make the ban hammer explode when it touches a node 16:20 Megaf sfan5: it was an accident xP 16:20 xenkey This mod adds a hammer which bans (kicks, or removes shout privilege depending on the mode) any player it is punched with. The user of it must have the "ban" privilege. Works with 0.4.9 and above. yeah it does 16:20 Jordach git gud 16:21 xenkey 3d armor 16:21 xenkey hrmm 16:26 xenkey I'm starting to hate my server 16:27 Jordach xenkey, ez: turn PvP off 16:27 Jordach if they want that, go play NeinCraft 16:27 sfan5 nein 16:27 * Jordach pets sfan5 16:27 * sfan5 pursr 16:28 sfan5 purrs* 16:28 Jordach silly kitty 16:28 * Jordach pets sfan5 16:28 * sfan5 rolls around 16:28 est !cat 16:28 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/q4RPFjJ.jpg 16:29 sfan5 aww 16:30 xenkey sfan5: so could i get the ban lifted? 16:30 xenkey And adding ban hammer now 16:31 sfan5 Xack: the ban on dotx.me? 16:31 Xack sfan5: wow rude 16:31 sfan5 Xack: ikr 16:31 sfan5 oh 16:31 sfan5 xenkey: the ban on dotx.me? 16:31 sfan5 Xack: sry 16:32 * Xack cats sfan5 16:32 xenkey sfan5: yeah 16:32 sfan5 xenkey: i guess so 16:32 xenkey Thanks 16:32 xenkey Lesson: Don't give out shells to kids :( 16:32 sfan5 !unban *!*@dotx.me 16:32 sfan5 hm 16:32 xenkey Thx 16:33 sfan5 looks like it's gone 16:33 xenkey I'm not going to join with that hostmask, I just feel easier in the mind :) 16:33 sfan5 !unignore *!*@dotx.me 16:33 MinetestBot sfan5: '*!*@dotx.me' removed from ignore list. 16:34 xenkey no this is 16:34 xenkey it 16:34 xenkey im making this whitelisted 16:35 xenkey fuck this shit 16:35 xenkey Hate these kids so much 16:35 Jordach meep meep 16:35 Jordach xenkey, now 16:35 Jordach watch your 3rd position fall downwards fast :P 16:36 xenkey Huh? 16:36 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/nkmaum.png typical "house" 16:36 xenkey Oh 16:36 xenkey Well 16:36 xenkey Players aren't important 16:36 xenkey I'd much rather have a nice world 16:37 Jordach xenkey, shut up shop altogether and help me :P 16:37 xenkey I'd love to 16:37 Jordach i already have a nice world :D 16:37 xenkey I hate this admin stuff 16:37 est xenkey, my server has tenplus1' protector mod 16:37 xenkey Sure I'll help 16:37 xenkey Isn't tenplus1 the Xanadu guy? 16:37 Jordach xenkey, we have whoareyou a known forum member known for building cities 16:37 est yes 16:37 est also does alot of modding 16:37 Jordach yes - the unmoderated server 16:38 Jordach (you may want 0.4.11, as there's a hud bug present in 0.4.12) 16:38 xenkey Yeah 16:38 Megaf who is responsible for dotx.me? 16:38 xenkey me 16:38 Jordach !server Jordach 16:38 MinetestBot Jordach: Jordach's Public Server | jordach.net:30001 | Clients: 0/15, 0/5 | Version: 0.4.11-dev / minetest | Ping: 8ms 16:38 xenkey Well i was less responsible before 16:38 xenkey Joining now 16:38 est when you place a "protected door", and an area is protected by players a,b,c, then only a b and c can open the door 16:39 Jordach xenkey, i am working on updating a mod shortly 16:39 est you have to manually disable the protector stones though 16:39 Jordach xenkey, unlike most servers, i'm happy to pay for it myself 16:39 xenkey Surely you need to pay for most servers anyway :-) 16:39 xenkey Well in fact all servers 16:40 Jordach xenkey, $10 a mo isn't much for me 16:40 sfan5 Jordach: DO? 16:40 Jordach ya 16:40 Megaf xenkey: I like the website style 16:40 sfan5 ic 16:40 xenkey Jordach: Mine is free :) 16:40 sfan5 that explains the ping 16:40 xenkey Megaf: Thanks 16:40 Jordach xenkey, tip: use /part to ignore IRC 16:40 xenkey yeah I've used the mod before 16:41 xenkey I like the chatter 16:41 xenkey it's quite intelligent, unlike most 16:41 rubenwardy Jordach, do you use a VM? 16:41 Jordach might want to follow me to whoareyou's city 16:41 Jordach rubenwardy, VPS 16:42 * xenkey has a dedicated server :^) 16:42 rubenwardy Yeah. 16:42 Megaf Jordach: well, that's a VM :P 16:42 rubenwardy Which do you use? 16:42 xenkey sudo: apt-get: command not found 16:42 rubenwardy Eventually I might need to host a HTML5 + NodeJS game online. 16:43 xenkey I forget I'm on arch... 16:43 rubenwardy :( 16:43 Jordach rubenwardy, i would ;) 16:44 rubenwardy It's early days in development. :P 16:44 xenkey Tarring up server and shredding box 16:52 xenkey It's gonna take ~30 min to copy all this shit 16:53 xenkey Jordach: so 0.4-11 ? 16:54 Jordach xenkey, commits just before Jan 2015 16:54 Jordach if you need anything, PM more or just poke me 16:55 xenkey http://psycho.space/p/kxt8 16:55 xenkey Alright 16:55 xenkey I'll start le building 16:55 Jordach i need to install darkage 16:55 Jordach people seem to like it ;) 16:56 est 0.4.11 has other serious problems, if you have specific bugs with 0.4.12, then you can try master 16:56 xenkey Yeah i was gonna say 16:56 xenkey Jordach: Could I suggest a few mods? 16:56 Jordach go nuts 16:56 xenkey Some I wrote myself, some I nicked off the forums before the downloads expired 16:56 Jordach sure, tar em and send em :P 16:56 xenkey IN 27 minutes and 30 seconds 16:57 xenkey wait i can just mv this to the web folder 16:58 Jordach i also run a no refunds style of grief protection: 16:58 Jordach didn't protect it? not my problem 16:58 xenkey http://mt.3tm.net/minetest.tgz go huts :) 16:58 xenkey nuts* 16:59 Jordach The connection was reset 16:59 xenkey 500MB jesus 16:59 Jordach >8mbps 16:59 Jordach it'll go quickly :) 16:59 xenkey 3>300kbps 16:59 xenkey :c 17:00 Jordach i just get under one mbyte/s 17:00 xenkey lucky :c 17:00 Jordach my server has 125mbps 17:00 xenkey Where is your server hosted by the way? 17:00 Jordach xenkey, london 17:00 xenkey Awesome 17:00 xenkey Close to home :^) 17:00 Calinou hi Xack 17:00 Jordach most US players get decent PING 17:00 Calinou Xack, I run my server now 17:00 Calinou !server Calinou 17:00 MinetestBot Calinou: Calinou [Europe/Paris] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 2/32, 2/6 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms 17:00 Calinou #calinou @ irc.inchra.net 17:01 Xack yay nice :D 17:01 xenkey You guys have some repetitive bans... 17:01 xenkey but I won't comment 17:01 Jordach xenkey, we had a person a few years ago with many bots 17:02 xenkey tfw most of these match my IP 17:02 xenkey That's BT's distribution system for ya 17:02 Jordach yarp 17:02 Jordach i has BT 17:02 xenkey It's awful 17:03 xenkey The ping is decent, around 40ms 17:03 xenkey (That's low for me) 17:03 Xack BT? 17:03 Jordach 13ms from here 17:03 xenkey British something 17:03 Xack oh 17:03 Jordach Telecom 17:03 xenkey That ^ 17:03 Xack i thought it was a server hosting thing :P 17:03 Xack i know that BT 17:04 Jordach xenkey, i can't get yer mods :P 17:04 xenkey Neither can I 17:04 xenkey I blame online.net 17:04 Jordach chuck the mods folder from the game or /mods/ folder 17:04 Jordach drop em into pomf.se or uguu.se 17:05 Jordach uguu.se has temp files which auto delete 17:05 xenkey hehe 17:05 xenkey I know all about dem 17:05 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/iisgmg.png 17:05 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/zxrxwp.png mfw 17:05 Jordach :D 17:06 xenkey t-this is my other one http://a.pomf.se/bujrgu.png 17:06 xenkey If I met this mark kid irl he'd get it 17:06 xenkey a) bringing shame to the name 17:06 xenkey "Mark" :-( 17:07 Jordach markveidemanis 17:07 Jordach go nuts on that nick 17:07 xenkey ^ 17:07 xenkey That's him 17:07 xenkey markv markveidemanis m4 17:07 xenkey Or m5 or something 17:08 * Jordach is norfolk based 17:08 xenkey USING MY PERFECTLY FINE DOMAINS 17:08 xenkey Taught me not to share my stuff though 17:09 Jordach http://a.pomf.se/zochfw.png 17:09 Jordach wat 17:09 xenkey lol 17:10 xenkey sfan5: I hate to ask but... 17:11 sfan5 ? 17:12 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/zxrxwp.png ... 17:15 Megaf ¿ 17:16 xenkey That's another of my domains 17:16 xenkey But I think that's all 17:16 xenkey Would you mind... :^) 17:17 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/tgvbth.png 17:18 xenkey Jordach: https://github.com/jschx/poomf.sh This is useful if you like pomf 17:20 sfan5 xenkey: ? 17:21 xenkey Could you unban mtcm also? 17:21 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/znwyev.png 17:21 sfan5 uh huh 17:22 sfan5 i guess i can 17:22 sfan5 !unignore *!*@mtcm.eu 17:22 MinetestBot sfan5: '*!*@mtcm.eu' removed from ignore list. 17:22 sfan5 !unban *!*@mtcm.eu 17:22 xenkey Thanks 17:22 xenkey I just want you to know they're mine, not "his" 17:23 ipv6b Will "server_announce = 0" "Automaticaly report to masterserver"? 17:24 sfan5 obviously not 17:27 * ipv6b found it here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example 17:34 xenkey Jordach: The performance is really good, I'll upload a tar of just my mods 17:34 xenkey See what you like from them 17:36 xenkey http://mt.3tm.net 17:39 Jordach the connection was rest 17:39 Jordach reset 17:39 Jordach Reply from 212.47.234.29: bytes=32 time=86ms TTL=46 17:39 Jordach i can ping 17:39 Jordach but not read anything 17:39 Jordach http://p.pomf.se/6807 17:40 xenkey ugh 17:42 xenkey Lemme try another webserver 17:43 xenkey usr/bin/python: No module named SimpleHTTPServer 17:43 Jordach apache works fine :P 17:43 xenkey I'm not liking this 17:43 xenkey Ewwww 17:43 Jordach my server runs it :P 17:43 rubenwardy Apache is bulky 17:43 rubenwardy I use it, though 17:43 xenkey Hrmm 17:44 xenkey I'm nginx all around 17:44 xenkey I use Quark for my git repos though 17:44 xenkey Since nginx doesn't have CGI support 17:45 xenkey Jordach: What OS is your server? 17:45 Jordach Debian 7 17:46 xenkey Cool 17:46 xenkey http://mt.3tm.net:8000/ try this one... 17:46 Jordach nope 17:47 Jordach upload em to a file host 17:47 Jordach my connection will download em fast enough 17:48 Calinou I haven't bothered with remote media on my server 17:49 xenkey sent you login details 17:49 xenkey yfw that user has sudo 18:10 xenkey Cool FreeDNS name anyone? 18:17 Calinou xenkey, I've cal.it.cx 18:17 Calinou but I prefer nsupdate.info 18:17 Calinou is free/libre, has nicer interface 18:17 Calinou doesn't whine you to pay 18:17 Calinou .nerdpol.ovh is from nsupdate.info 18:17 xenkey Nice 18:18 Calinou c.it.cx was taken, just like ca.it.cx 18:18 xenkey is there a .nou ? 18:19 Calinou there is .no 18:20 Halamix2_wifi There was noip.something 18:20 Calinou no-ip sucks 18:20 Calinou has tons of ads, only 3 subdomains per account (5 for old accounts)… 18:20 Calinou really, nsupdate.info and hopper.pw are much better 18:27 ShadowNinja Calinou: I think I just found a security vulnerability in nsupdate.info... 18:28 xenkey oh god hackers 18:28 Calinou ShadowNinja, report it 18:28 xenkey Do that ^ 18:28 Calinou and hax0r my mt.nerdpol.ovh subdomain 18:28 Calinou (-: 18:29 ShadowNinja Calinou: It won't be easy to fix without causing browser redirect loops. 18:30 Calinou you can tell me in PM what it is 18:36 xenkey Will Minetest work on Alpine? 18:36 xenkey Im gonna RTFM before I do anything else with this server 18:37 sfan5 xenkey: why would it not 18:37 xenkey because it doesn't have libc 18:37 xenkey Or that's what i thought 18:37 sfan5 every distro needs a libc 18:37 sfan5 it just has a different libc 18:37 xenkey this uses musl 18:38 xenkey Gonna read the wiki before everyone makes fun of me.. 18:40 xenkey This is great! 18:40 xenkey Really fast to 18:40 xenkey too* 18:51 xenkey Jordach: What's the maximum area a player can protect? 18:52 Jordach 10k areas 18:52 Jordach for my serv, elsewhere 5 18:52 Jordach the "area" is 50*100*50 18:52 Jordach afaik 18:52 xenkey Eh 18:52 Jordach can be bigger if done by admins 18:52 xenkey I'll ask whoareyou 18:52 xenkey That ok? 18:52 xenkey I found this nice island 18:53 Jordach he has the areas priv 18:53 Jordach he can go further 18:53 xenkey Yup 18:55 xenkey mfw he doesn't know how to do it 18:58 est there is the /area_info command 18:58 xenkey Jordach: Can you also add treecapitator? 18:58 est it tells you those information 18:58 xenkey Ah nice 19:05 xenkey So I made wood and stone picks only to realize i have a full set of iron tools in my inventory 19:13 Calinou !server Calinou 19:13 MinetestBot Calinou: Calinou [Europe/Paris] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 3/32, 3/4 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms 19:15 xenkey !server jordach 19:15 MinetestBot xenkey: Jordach's Public Server | jordach.net:30001 | Clients: 4/15, 0/6 | Version: 0.4.11-dev / minetest | Ping: 7ms 19:15 xenkey yeye 19:15 xenkey best server ^ 19:22 Pilcrow so, do falling nodes fall through unloaded areas? I've been playing around with trying to program a simple quarry machine or similar, but tested it in a world composed entirely of falling nodes. when it dug down about 50 nodes, the entire world started collapsing into the unloaded chunk and froze my game, lol. 19:32 Pilcrow btw, xenkey, did you manage to get Minetest working in Alpine? 19:32 xenkey Pilcrow: Didn't bother trying, playing on jordach's server 19:32 xenkey I'll try later and let you know if I manage to get it running 19:33 xenkey Note it's a server, not a desktop 19:35 xenkey 3> crafts slabs >places them straight in the trash 19:35 xenkey Right from the crafting grid 19:35 xenkey ffs 19:36 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/djupwo.png 19:36 xenkey why does this happen? 19:36 Pilcrow ok. I'm just curious, xenkey. fyi, musl *is* an implementation of libc, it's just not entirely binary-compatible with glibc... I assume that just means you'd need to build Minetest yourself -- which I suspect you were probably going to do anyway. I've not used musl before, but with any luck, it should compile... :) 19:37 xenkey scw-548d32:~# apk info minetest 19:37 xenkey minetest-0.4.11-r1 description: 19:37 xenkey it's there! 19:38 Jordach xenkey, slabs and stairs auto rotate to the face they were placed on 19:39 xenkey Oh 19:39 xenkey So I have to make scaffolding? 19:40 Pilcrow ^ it would be nice if they ignored the rotation code when being placed against other stairs or slabs... :\ 19:40 xenkey yeah 19:41 Pilcrow but yes, xenkey, you'll need a node underneath the slab so you can point downward when you place it... 19:42 est or use a screwdriver 19:42 Pilcrow ^ or that. 19:42 xenkey Woop woop dungeon!!! 19:42 xenkey Jordach: There any waypoints or bookmarks? 19:43 Jordach xenkey, there are two sethomes, one in the inventory, and one via /home and /sethome 19:43 Pilcrow btw, hello est. did you lose your 31? :P 19:43 Jordach use travelnets for longer distances or related things 19:44 est I timed out and rejoined 19:44 xenkey ah, travelnets 19:45 xenkey I'm going to need some more resources first 19:46 Pilcrow Yeah, I figured, I was just kidding around. Although, -someone- was stealing letters from peoples' names yesterday... Maybe they'd want to steal numbers too.... ;P 19:47 est 13773RS R NU|V|6RS 2... 19:49 Pilcrow ¿sɹǝqɯnu osןɐ sɹǝʇʇǝן uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝɹɐ ʇnq 19:51 xenkey Pilcrow: nah 19:52 Pilcrow ɥoʍ ɐqonʇ ndpıpǝ-poʍu *ɐup* qɐɔʞʍɐɹps¿ 19:53 Pilcrow (ok, I'm done...) 19:53 est ˙suoıʇɔǝɹıp ןןɐ uı 'ooʇ ǝɹɐ ʎǝɥʇ ǝsɹnoɔ ɟO 19:53 Jordach !rev ɥoʍ ɐqonʇ ndpıpǝ-poʍu *ɐup* qɐɔʞʍɐɹps¿ 19:53 MinetestBot ¿spɹɐʍʞɔɐq *puɐ* uʍop-ǝpıpdn ʇnoqɐ ʍoɥ 19:54 Jordach ^ help ful 19:54 Pilcrow *ndsıpǝ 19:54 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/pvaihe.png lovely 19:55 Jordach xenkey, :D 19:55 Pilcrow ^ giant tube falling into lava, xenkey? 19:55 Calinou !rev umop-apisdn 19:55 MinetestBot ndsipa-pomu 19:55 Pilcrow lol oh no, I've caused a mess... :D 19:56 Calinou !rev elgoog.moc//:http 19:56 MinetestBot ptth://com.google 19:56 Calinou lol 19:56 Calinou !rev elgoog.moc//:ptth 19:56 MinetestBot http://com.google 19:56 est I like that one 19:57 Pilcrow google ftw 19:57 Pilcrow !rev google ftw 19:57 MinetestBot wtf elgoog 19:59 xenkey Jordach: Pilcrow: I dug into lava :c 19:59 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/wwcwxp.png 19:59 xenkey Worth it tho 19:59 xenkey I love thi screenshot tool :) 19:59 Jordach hahah 19:59 xenkey 3 diamonds 20:00 xenkey I forgot how fun minetest was! 20:00 Pilcrow xenkey, rule #1 in minecraft also applies to minetest: don't dig straight down. ;) 20:00 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/yrfxqp.png seems fine to me 20:02 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/egedck.png :D 20:02 Pilcrow o_O how could you *forget* how fun minetest is? I've put more time into both playing and modding minetest than any other game (including the old Phantasy Star Online that I played for around 300 hours)... 20:02 SylvieLorxu Minetest is boring 20:03 xenkey Pilcrow: Admin duty 20:03 * Pilcrow gives SylvieLorxu a strange look :P 20:03 SylvieLorxu Pilcrow: No, really, I have trouble staying interested, I just keep tabbing away, I'm not good in playing things without a real goal :x 20:04 Calinou Pilcrow, digging straight down works for me in Minetest 20:04 Calinou just /home quickly if you dig into lava 20:04 Pilcrow well, that works, Calinou. still best to not swim in lava anyway though... ;P 20:05 xenkey I don't think you'd last as long in lava in real life as you do in Minetest 20:08 Pilcrow eh, to each his own, SylvieLorxu. Minetest is fun for me because I love creating stuff. With crafting, building, AND modding, I get to let out my creative side (although my music has suffered because of it; creating stuff in minetest satisfies my creative drive enough that I don't feel like writing new songs nearly as much anymore...) :P 20:16 xenkey ttp://a.pomf.se/bmzwjx.png 20:16 xenkey and i have no pick 20:18 Pilcrow xenkey, press F5 and write down the coords? 20:18 luizrpgluiz hi 20:19 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/lihnzj.png i finds it 20:19 xenkey nah 20:19 xenkey Too much 20:19 xenkey Too many diamonds 20:19 luizrpgluiz :) 20:21 luizrpgluiz this game is discouraging me to make server :( 20:29 xenkey Don't do it 20:29 xenkey Bad idea 20:29 xenkey gateway to administration mayhem 20:32 Pilcrow a private server with friends is pretty awesome, but I don't think I'd want to run a public server... 20:33 luizrpgluiz in the current version I had a big problem, I went to open the server, my map simply gave error and never uploaded 20:34 luizrpgluiz that is, the map was not recognized in the current version 20:34 Pilcrow if I *did* run a public server, I'd probably try to make one with no area protection, but limit people by only granting interact upon request. something like that would also need some really good moderators though... :P 20:36 luizrpgluiz ;-; 20:36 luizrpgluiz :( 20:36 * Jordach runs a public server for fun 20:38 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/vwfmso.png thoughts? 20:38 luizrpgluiz that anger, I had done it, so now I'll have to start from scratch, should have backed up before giving this error 20:40 Pilcrow xenkey, looks like a nice little shack. you should make a giant secret basement under it and style it like a lab; make your own "area 51" :D 20:40 xenkey Pilcrow: Way ahead of you bro 20:41 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/whgcec.png bit of a dungeon but eh 20:42 Pilcrow sorry about your troubles, luizrpgluiz. have you tried creating a new world and copying your old map.sqlite and world.mt into it? I had to do that, to save a few worlds that hadn't been backed up... 20:43 Pilcrow oh, xenkey, was that dungeon already there, or did you build it yourself? 20:44 xenkey Twas a dungeon already :) 20:45 Pilcrow ah, cool. I love finding dungeons. I wish there was more variety though; it seems like there's only around 5 defined shapes and one is chosen at random when they get generated... eventually they all feel the same... 20:47 Calinou Pilcrow> if I *did* run a public server, I'd probably try to make one with no area protection, but limit people by only granting interact upon request. something like that would also need some really good moderators though... :P 20:47 Calinou would get quickly griefed 20:47 Calinou better enable areas, and give everyone interact by default 20:47 Pilcrow that's one reason I like using the Pyramid, Ruins, and Mine Shaft mods too. I can't remember who made them though. I think Pyramids and Ruins were made by the same person. maybe Mine Shafts too... 20:48 Halamix2 D: http://pastebin.com/gAhaZdqr 20:49 Halamix2 it happens from time to time 20:49 est Halamix2, are you on latest git? 20:50 Pilcrow Calinou: I dislike area protection. I'd rather find a decent way around it. I like to build freely, and help whoever I can, without messing around with mod permissions and crap. probably the main reason I avoid other people's public servers, tbh. 20:50 est it should be fixed there already 20:51 Calinou yeah, but without areas, random kids grief everything 20:51 Calinou I wouldn't consider hosting a public server without areas 20:53 xenkey I wouldn't consider hosting a public server again 20:55 Pilcrow ^ which is why I'd make interact granted on request, rather than enabled by default; most kids will give up if they can't do anything. still, a better solution would be needed, to weed out the stubborn ones, lol. maybe interact should be request-by-email? lol 20:55 jojoa1997 Hello 20:55 Calinou most kids ask “can i hav interact plz” and you give it 20:55 Calinou then they grief when you're not here 20:56 Pilcrow hello jojoa1997 20:56 Calinou I believe it shouldn't be hard to play on servers 20:56 jojoa1997 ^ 20:56 Calinou requesting interact by e-mail is way too complex, wastes everyone's time 20:56 Pilcrow (the email thing was a joke, lol) 20:56 jojoa1997 You could try like VanessaE and have them request in the forums 20:57 luizrpgluiz Pilcrow: because of this error to the error also gave map.sqlite 20:58 Pilcrow I probably won't be running a server anyway, jojoa1997. this is just hypothetical. I'm just trying to think of a way to have a decent experience without area protection. 21:00 Pilcrow mainly, I don't like to -play- with area protection, and if I did try to run a server, I'd want one without that annoyance so that I might actually enjoy playing on it, too... 21:17 xenkey I think by email is a good idea 21:17 xenkey I think by telnet is even better 21:17 xenkey Just to sift out all the kids 21:18 xenkey And all the adults 21:18 Tablet_One O.o 21:18 xenkey and leave all the geeks 21:18 Tablet_One Haha 21:18 xenkey could be REQUEST 21:18 xenkey I am so doing this 21:18 Pilcrow lol 21:18 xenkey Seriously 21:18 xenkey Right now 21:18 Pilcrow even *I* don't use telnet 21:18 xenkey Then all it takes is a kid to spam the shit out of your little interface 21:20 Pilcrow maybe we should just open ssh connections completely, and have people use cat and sed to give themselves interact. who cares about hackers anyway... :P 21:21 xenkey LOL 21:21 xenkey +1 21:21 xenkey So doing this 21:22 xenkey http://mtcm.eu/py/minerequest/ 21:22 Pilcrow ^ what is that supposed to be? I see an empty repository... 21:24 xenkey Not anymore ya don't 21:26 xenkey Thanks for the idea BTW 21:26 Pilcrow lol nope. now I just see an empty readme. :P 21:27 xenkey pushed now 21:31 Pilcrow now if only I understood Python. I really need to learn it... :\ 21:33 Halamix2 est, no, stable 4.12.12 (windows, sorry fo delay) 21:34 xenkey Made another commit :) 21:35 xenkey this is gonna be gud 21:35 Halamix2 tomorrow (it will happen tomorrow as well, I know it) 21:38 xenkey why am i writing this 21:40 Pilcrow lol xenkey. your code really confuses me. I have a decent understanding of a few programming languages, but Python is not one of them and I can't seem to figure out what your code actually *does* :P 21:40 xenkey Try running it 21:40 xenkey Twisted is exactly what it says on the tin 21:43 Pilcrow I guess this old install I'm running doesn't have a twisted.internet module. of course, I think my Python in here is from like 2012... :P 21:46 xenkey http://pastie.org/10072540 21:46 xenkey Fun fact: Python 2 is supported until 2020 21:47 xenkey I hate brackets around if statements, I'm just not used to them 21:47 xenkey Anyway, made another commit 21:56 Pilcrow xenkey, ah, I'm understanding more of this now. is the secret keyword just "KEY" in your code though? lol 21:56 xenkey yeah 21:59 Pilcrow looks like it only displays messages for now, though. I assume you're gonna make it edit auth.txt and auto-grant privs? or maybe just add the player's name to a viewable document... 22:08 xenkey I'm faffing around in the least humane way possible 22:08 xenkey Trying to print the motd properly 22:08 Pilcrow lol 22:12 xenkey I literally cannot put an integer in a string in any sane way 22:14 Pilcrow really? is the typing that strict? 22:15 Pilcrow you should program this in BASIC instead! *trollface* 22:16 xenkey Sure 22:16 xenkey I'll just scrap all this and switch to BASIC 22:16 Pilcrow lol 22:16 xenkey hell, let's use assembly 22:17 xenkey no thats too hard lets use binary 22:18 Pilcrow assembly is a great idea! but make sure it's PDP-11 assembly, in a virtual machine. that's where it's at... B) 22:23 xenkey Twisted: 22:23 xenkey fuck you 22:24 xenkey You don't need a bytestring 22:26 xenkey can't concat bytes to str 22:26 xenkey hate you 22:26 xenkey Off to ##python I go... 22:43 Pilcrow_ my browser crashed. I'm back. 22:43 xenkey hi! 22:44 xenkey 3>Using browser clients 22:44 xenkey You at work or smth? 22:45 Pilcrow_ no, I just can't be bothered to figure out how to set up a client. I did it at one point, in a different computer, but I don't remember how... 22:47 xenkey It's easy 22:47 xenkey Look how sexy they are http://a.pomf.se/ipajry.png 22:47 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/fkbqyf.png 22:50 Pilcrow_ xenkey, which client is that? 22:51 Pilcrow_ irssi maybe? 22:52 xenkey Pilcrow_: weechat :) 22:52 xenkey Check this http://a.pomf.se/sdshrd.png 22:54 Pilcrow_ I like the look of weechat. maybe I'll check it out. 22:55 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/nbbuhf.png 22:58 Pilcrow_ tiling wm? looks nice, but not for me, thanks. I'm fond of maximized windows. 23:02 xenkey Mod+f is your friend 23:02 xenkey And that was floating 23:02 xenkey Er sorry that *was* tiling 23:02 xenkey NHS should just give out apples 23:03 xenkey They seem to restore normal bodily function 23:03 Pilcrow_ NHS? 23:09 Pilcrow_ oh, you meant national healthcare? maybe? 23:11 xenkey ye 23:11 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/hyoyrp.png 23:12 Pilcrow_ ^ what am I seeing here? 23:17 Pilcrow_ weechat is being a pain to build. lots of dependencies I need to build, too. now I need asciidoc, guile, and ruby... -_- 23:19 xenkey Pilcrow_: What OS are you on? 23:19 Pilcrow_ an OLD one. 23:20 paramat dungeon generation is complex and each element is randomised, the variety is vast, effectively infinite =) 23:22 Pilcrow_ xenkey, it's Arch Linux (well, Chakra, to be exact), but it needs a new install. I haven't used this laptop in a long time. the 32-bit repos are done since Chakra switched to 64-bit only, and the last time it was officially updated was late 2012. I need to wait until I can afford more backup media though; my 1TB external is full... 23:22 Pilcrow_ s/done/gone/ 23:23 xenkey Arch linux eh 23:23 xenkey sudo pacman -S weechat :^) 23:24 Pilcrow_ well, chakra is a fork of arch. it works mostly the same, and uses pacman, but it isn't directly compatable with arch repos. and the old 32-bit repos are dead. so no, anything I install must be built from source... 23:27 Pilcrow_ I think I'll try to get KVirc working, since that's already installed; there's just too much I need to build to get weechat working... 23:31 xenkey Try irssi 23:31 xenkey looks similar 23:38 Pilcrow_ eh, I looked at it, it's apparently pretty popluar, but doesn't have as nice a layout as what you showed me. meh. I might just keep using the web chat... 23:54 Pilcrow_ I wish I could find the cover by Pinball Jukebox of David Bowie's "Let's Dance", but it seems like it was only ever in the boxtrolls movie; I can't seem to find an mp3 or youtube vid of just the song... :( 23:55 Pilcrow_ ^ I can't find that cover, I mean. the original kinda sucks. but the cover is all creepy and melodic. 23:59 xenkey Holy fuck 23:59 xenkey It's 1 in the morning 23:59 xenkey Shit