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fireglow |
weird message in the server log: [string "interrupt(1)..."]:5: ')' expected near '::' |
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ah, that might have come from meseons, luacontroller |
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fireglow |
ShadowNinja: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=173580#p173580 for your consideration =) |
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hmmmm |
i think we should think about a better ABM mechanism |
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hmmmm |
there's no way that a 2 block radius from the player is the best we can do when it comes to running very simple checks on an area of nodes |
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fireglow |
hmmmm, hmmmm! :) |
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fireglow |
I agree |
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hmmmm |
that's feedback i've gotten from an IRL friend who got hooked onto minetest |
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hmmmm |
"everything's awesome, except it doesn't make sense that a furnace stops working when I move a little bit away from it" |
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hmmmm |
this is the sentiment of the average player |
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exio4 |
hmmmm: IIRC there is a setting for that radius |
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hmmmm |
sure but the point is that it should be less cpu intensive to begin with so it doesn't need to be set so low by default |
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exio4 |
yeah |
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MinetestBot |
[git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix some loose ends from 3993093f 761b127 http://git.io/hyMQ (2015-03-22T02:58:54-04:00) |
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PicklesRGood |
Hi everyone... okay so yeah ,hi. |
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hmmmm |
well, pickles are good |
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hmmmm |
you've gotta give him that much |
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Krock |
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nrzkt |
185 installations on play store, gg :) |
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Calinou |
only? :/ |
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Calinou |
we ought to get 500 at least |
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blaze |
link |
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blaze |
i see only 35 |
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nrzkt |
https://lut.im/LpRtTVvB/22jp9BiF |
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Krock |
2 days ago |
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nrzkt |
yeah, play store stats works like this |
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YvesLevier |
looking at that! |
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YvesLevier |
Hey :) |
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YvesLevier |
Rounded, it looks exponential |
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YvesLevier |
You want i make a projection in future using matrix inversion? |
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YvesLevier |
Having tools for this |
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YvesLevier |
Tools that had abandoned Windows. Unix only. |
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neoascetic |
Hi all. If this is possible to generate a single big continent with small amount of islands around it and the ocean everywhere else? |
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Krock |
yes sure |
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neoascetic |
Krock can you please provide an example of mapgen params/seed? |
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Krock |
could be a bit complicated if you want to reah that with mgvX |
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Krock |
*rech |
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Krock |
*reach, damn you keyboard |
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Krock |
neoascetic, better use a lua mapgen |
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neoascetic |
Ok, I thought it is possible with mapgen only |
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Krock |
lua mapgen is mapgen |
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Krock |
!tell Jordach meep! |
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MinetestBot |
Krock: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around |
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CWz |
Krock: is the Krock on Jordach server really you? beacuse we had lots of imposters on inchra serves recently |
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Krock |
CWz, not anymore. I got a bad allocation |
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Krock |
that server is just too heavy :/ |
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Xack |
!catgirl |
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Xack |
:< |
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Xack |
Krock: meep |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Remove unused ConnectionCommand::sendToAll function. NetworkPacket::oldForgePacket returns Buffer instead of SharedBuffer and is used in ConnectionCommand instead of Connection::Send 61f2d0c http://git.io/hSzz (2015-03-22T12:18:16+01:00) |
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Calinou |
Krock, which server are you talking about? |
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Calinou |
I don't host any Minetest server |
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xenkey |
Hello everybody |
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farfadet46 |
helllo |
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Krock |
Calinou, oh sorry. |
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Calinou |
it's ok, but I'm considering asking to get it banned |
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deezl |
I must have missed something, Calinou, what should be banned? |
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Krock |
"his" server |
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ElectronLibre |
If you're talking about who I think you're talking about, it's her server. |
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Sketch2 |
hi |
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Sketch2 |
I want to be sure that everybody knows I was trying to do right, and not upset anyone with my server |
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Sketch2 |
someone was acting as Calinou on it |
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Sketch2 |
I don't think any harm has really come of it |
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Sketch2 |
but it would be best that others know it happened |
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Sketch2 |
I believe the offending user's IP was 151.228.208.35 |
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ElectronLibre |
Sketch2, I just looked in my IRC client's logs and it's right. |
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Sketch2 |
so if anyone sees any further suspicious activity from that IP, then you might let others know |
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Sketch2 |
OK so I just WHOIS'ed everybody in the chat room and the only two that come close to the traceroute location of London are exio4 and xenkey |
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exio4 |
wat |
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Sketch2 |
make what you will of that info. not saying it's one of them, just that if there is a hacker / lurker, that's where my suspicions would be. |
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ElectronLibre |
Sketch2, I checked everyone in the chat room too, no one have the exact informations that had the person you seek. |
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Sketch2 |
ty ElectionLibre |
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someguy_irc |
swee |
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someguy_irc |
nvm |
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fireglow |
meow |
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Jordach |
meow |
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Zeno` |
ROAR |
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deezl |
ElectronLibre, Sketch2, et al, yes, the above referenced ip for "Kittenhelper" has been a big problem on multiple servers, and she likes to parade around as Admin-level players on servers, and has, through some social-engineering, obtained elevated privs on several servers in order to discredit/disrupt other player/mods/admins |
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ElectronLibre |
That's maybe why Sketch2 and I thought it was important to talk about it here. |
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deezl |
yep, several server owners are aware, I would suggest maybe blocking the ip entirely in iptables |
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ElectronLibre |
Good idea. |
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ElectronLibre |
All the operators from channels I go on have banned her, she is klined from Inchra but she now attacks servers. Some people thought about banning her ip from masterserver but again devs would be opposed to it. |
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deezl |
yeah |
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ElectronLibre |
Another idea was to ban her ip directly in iptables, for all admins, and warn to be careful with unknown servers in public list appearing suddenly, where players with famous names play. |
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Jordach |
Zeno`, my server bungled your players :D |
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Zeno` |
bungled? |
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Zeno` |
I hope you know that today is Emmy Noether's birthday |
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fireglow |
nrzkt: what's your apps name? |
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Zeno` |
roger? |
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nrzkt |
fireglow, which app ? |
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fireglow |
nrzkt: that one: nrzkt │ https://lut.im/LpRtTVvB/22jp9BiF |
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nrzkt |
it's google play store developper console |
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fireglow |
wow |
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fireglow |
okay, nevermind =) |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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rubenwardy |
Who is C1ffisme? |
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ElectronLibre |
rubenwardy, I have no idea, but you're not the first one to talk about him. |
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rubenwardy |
He seems to be using GitHub issues as a forum |
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ElectronLibre |
Yes, I saw that, and some other people did too :/ |
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xenkey |
what was the mod that engulfed whole trees in one go? |
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deezl |
treecapitator |
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xenkey |
thanks |
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deezl |
np :D |
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xenkey |
.playing on my server as a normal user |
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deezl |
love that mod |
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xenkey |
just to see whats missing |
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xenkey |
and yes it's useful |
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deezl |
helps with the noobish players that mine about half a tree and leave the rest floating |
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xenkey |
exacrly |
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xenkey |
like me :P |
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deezl |
lol |
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xenkey |
> log in as normal player | > say you found a bug | > restart server |
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xenkey |
You should try it, you seem as though to have a good set of standards, perhaps you could give me some constructive criticism, deezl |
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deezl |
hehe |
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deezl |
what server is yours? |
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xenkey |
Zenith one |
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xenkey |
mt.3tm.net |
| 15:55 |
xenkey |
What was the mod that allowed players to teleport to each other? |
| 15:55 |
xenkey |
And what would you suggest for a crafting guide? |
| 15:57 |
ElectronLibre |
Unified_inventory contains a craft_guide in its inventory. |
| 15:57 |
ElectronLibre |
And about players to teleport to each other... giving teleport by default is the same. Also, there is craft_guide mod, but not sure it's still working. |
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xenkey |
I dislike unified though, it's too bloated for my needs |
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xenkey |
giving teleport by default? |
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xenkey |
What kind of trickery is this |
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deezl |
the teleport thing is...tpr I think? |
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xenkey |
Yeah tpa and tph |
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deezl |
I really like UI |
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deezl |
my creative server gives teleport by default |
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deezl |
hi est31 |
| 16:01 |
est31 |
hi deezl :) |
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Jordach |
i've only just noticed |
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Jordach |
the coffee machine in homedecor has a particle spawner adding vapor to the coffee mug |
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deezl |
that must be new |
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xenkey |
deezl: Want to take a look? |
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deezl |
xenkey, at your server? sure |
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xenkey |
I'm playing as a user and seeing on what I could improve, I'd be glad if you could join me and criticize a bit |
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deezl |
which server? |
| 16:07 |
deezl |
oh, nvm |
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deezl |
sorry |
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deezl |
I didn't realize you had said it earlier |
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deezl |
I was on there the other day to look around, but sure, I'll come by, gimme a couple minutes |
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rubenwardy |
!title https://youtu.be/ctnvad6fewA |
| 16:12 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Destroyable Environment 3 - Networking - YouTube |
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YvesLevier |
Hi :) i cant put DVD player nor Speaker driver anywhere. Som1 know why? |
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deezl |
they are not placeable nodes, just craft items |
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est31 |
finally a version of windows without GUI |
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YvesLevier |
deezl: You mean... items used by developers to make items? |
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YvesLevier |
Trying to figure what they deserve to? |
| 16:22 |
deezl |
YvesLevier, yes, the are craftitems used to make other things in the game, I assume you are using VanessaE's Homedecor_modpack? |
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YvesLevier |
I do |
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deezl |
est31, what wondows has no GUI? |
| 16:23 |
deezl |
other than DOS |
| 16:23 |
est31 |
deezl, http://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=http%3a%2f%2fvideo.ch9.ms%2fsessions%2fwinhec%2f2015%2ffiles%2fIOT201a.pptx |
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est31 |
https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/WinHEC/2015/IOT201 |
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xenkey |
What's the setting that lets me see the positions of all players on the server? |
| 16:24 |
deezl |
you mean just to see there tags? |
| 16:24 |
est31 |
you personally, or everybody everybodies |
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Calinou |
unlimited_player_transfer_distance = true |
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Calinou |
that is the default, xenkey |
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est31 |
yes |
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xenkey |
Would you advise against setting it to false? |
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deezl |
I use player_transfer_distance = 10 on the carbone server |
| 16:25 |
deezl |
since PVP is enabled |
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Calinou |
setting it to false renders your players kind of asocial :P |
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YvesLevier |
deezl: est31: You mean VanessaE is planning to make loudspeakers... eventualy? |
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deezl |
the speakers are already in the modpack |
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YvesLevier |
All i found are home speakers |
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deezl |
YvesLevier, yes, those the ones |
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YvesLevier |
Means she doesnt use Speaker drivers yet. Right? |
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xenkey |
Know any craft guide mods which don't use unified? |
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deezl |
zcg |
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YvesLevier |
VanessaE: ^ (about speakers drivers... for loudspeakers) |
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deezl |
the speaker drivers are required to craft the speakers |
| 16:33 |
YvesLevier |
hidden? |
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deezl |
what do you mean hidden? |
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xenkey |
ssh xen mt.3tm.net 'tar -zcf .minetest/games' | cat - files.tar.gz |
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xenkey |
Look good? |
| 16:34 |
xenkey |
If this doesn't work... |
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YvesLevier |
deezl: i mean i wish speakers with speaker drivers to be seen on speakers appearance |
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deezl |
better to stop the server first |
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xenkey |
not at all |
| 16:35 |
xenkey |
it'll work just fine |
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deezl |
YvesLevier, so you want speakers with the covers off... |
| 16:36 |
YvesLevier |
YESS |
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YvesLevier |
;) |
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deezl |
you may have to create your own textures for that |
| 16:36 |
deezl |
or beg VanessaE to add those in :D |
| 16:36 |
deezl |
that would be kinda neat |
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YvesLevier |
Will. Thx :) |
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xenkey |
https://a.pomf.se/ |
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xenkey |
um |
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xenkey |
Why does my scrot script randomly break |
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est31 |
scrot? I'm not googling that word. |
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est31 |
!g scrot |
| 16:59 |
MinetestBot |
est31: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrot |
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Calinou |
it's a screenshot tool, very simple |
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Calinou |
installed it here because Debian lacks one by default |
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* Calinou |
should bind it to Print Screen |
| 16:59 |
Calinou |
done |
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xenkey |
I have a script to automagically upload the image and copy the url to my clipboard |
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Calinou |
I like how Xfce makes it easy to add new key-bindings |
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xenkey |
Calinou: what DE/WM do you use? |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
Xfce + Xfwm |
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xenkey |
heh |
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est31 |
why do people name userspace tools like genitals |
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xenkey |
https://a.pomf.se/ |
| 17:00 |
est31 |
weird |
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xenkey |
Okay it's minetest's fault |
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Calinou |
Minetest can screenshot with F12 |
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Calinou |
(PNG format only) |
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Calinou |
use a script to auto-convert to JPEG |
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est31 |
JPEG is lossy, PNG isn't |
| 17:01 |
est31 |
saving screenshots to jpeg by default would be bad |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Revert "Add a Lua call to do damages / heals" ok @ShadowNinja 008d7e0 http://git.io/hHGq (2015-03-22T18:01:56+01:00) |
| 17:04 |
Sokomine |
hmm. the save files are pretty big, and we do exchange them in that size on the forum...saving space there might be a good idea....although i'm not sure how...safe...jpeg is by now |
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est31 |
minetest save files you mean? |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
est31, yeah, PNG is fine |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
but some people might want to screenshot to JPEG (slow connection) |
| 17:05 |
est31 |
they can use imagemagick |
| 17:05 |
Sokomine |
no, the screenshots |
| 17:05 |
Sokomine |
they tend to sum up... |
| 17:05 |
est31 |
or other tools they want |
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ShadowNinja |
nrzkt: No "ok @" please. Add "Approved by: ShadowNinja" to the description instead if you must. |
| 17:06 |
nrzkt |
why not ? |
| 17:06 |
est31 |
"do one thing, and do it good" |
| 17:07 |
xenkey |
deezl: http://pastie.org/10045538 |
| 17:07 |
xenkey |
I thought it did a good job :c |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
est31> they can use imagemagick |
| 17:07 |
xenkey |
Any suggestions for a low-end 4 core machine? |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
what if you're on Windows? :P |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
xenkey, you mean a physical machine? get a cheap, recent i5 |
| 17:08 |
xenkey |
Calinou: i meant amendations to the aforementioned configuration file geared towards a low end 4-core machine |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
num_emerge_threads = 4 multithreads mapgen but might break some caves |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
that's why it is 1 by default |
| 17:10 |
xenkey |
yeah i have that one |
| 17:10 |
est31 |
Calinou, I admit, unix philosophy doesn't apply there, also I guess that most users of minetest wont know this philosophy, but I dunno if people really want to download mozjpeg along with minetest just to save screenshots as jpeg |
| 17:10 |
xenkey |
it's still laggy as a bitch though |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
libjpeg is easy to get |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
use a recent version though |
| 17:10 |
est31 |
libjpeg isnt as optimized as mozjpeg |
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Sokomine |
xenkey: what kind of hardware do you use? |
| 17:19 |
xenkey |
ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) |
| 17:19 |
xenkey |
4 cores, 2GB RAM |
| 17:19 |
xenkey |
it's the hardware float one |
| 17:20 |
Sokomine |
ah. one of these tiny boards? |
| 17:21 |
xenkey |
Yeah |
| 17:21 |
xenkey |
Works alright though |
| 17:21 |
Sokomine |
i've just tested my villages on a pi 1 where someone allowed me to test it over the net |
| 17:21 |
xenkey |
It has a dedicated IP with 100mbit uplink though |
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exio4 |
Calinou: "a cheap, recent i5" |
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exio4 |
Calinou: I think that doesn't make sense |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
hello AMD fan :) |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
there's i5 for 160 € |
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exio4 |
that's cheap? |
| 17:22 |
exio4 |
nice one |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
then buy an i3 |
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Calinou |
good dual-core is better than bad quad-core |
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xenkey |
VanessaE: how exactly could I plot the performance of my server against the online players? |
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Sokomine |
i wonder if my phone will be able to handle the villages code...oh. it seems it does |
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exio4 |
Calinou: which i3? |
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xenkey |
Using RRDtool that is |
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Calinou |
exio4, the slowest (non-S one) usually |
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exio4 |
Calinou: sounds like a waste of money |
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fireglow |
VanessaE: ping. Is it save to use the moretrees mod on a existing map now? Last time I've tried, this happened: https://fireglow.de/755/temp/snapshot173.png |
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SecretSpy |
* WidDos think Video games turning ppl into angry mobs |
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Johnsen2 |
It's true |
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Johnsen2 |
Video Games (minetest) is turning admins into angry mobs |
| 17:34 |
Johnsen2 |
Banning |
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Johnsen2 |
kicking |
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Johnsen2 |
even muting! |
| 17:34 |
Sokomine |
how did a screenshot under android work again? |
| 17:34 |
Sokomine |
johnsen2: that sounds odd |
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xenkey |
power and home? |
| 17:35 |
Johnsen2 |
@soul_miner |
| 17:35 |
Johnsen2 |
Johnsen is banned from mtz at the moment, and I'm not interested in giving him a platform to cry about it right now |
| 17:35 |
Johnsen2 |
Thats what soul miner said |
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Calinou |
Sokomine, Power + Volume Down |
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Calinou |
I think |
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Johnsen2 |
Sokomine, i lied that ill let my brother play but i was spying then i got banned THEN i got muted on irc i got banned from mtz |
| 17:36 |
Johnsen2 |
just for "LYING" i get banned? thats not a great reason to ban or mute or kick |
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Warr1024 |
what did you lie about? |
| 17:37 |
Johnsen2 |
That im letting my brother play. i was spying only. |
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Sokomine |
caliou: hmm. doesn't work right now. but on a tablet, i had another option for screenshots...it did show up amongst the softkeys. hm |
| 17:37 |
Sokomine |
where did you get banned, johonsen2? |
| 17:38 |
Johnsen2 |
MTZ-Basic. it was my favorite server ever i even made a bowl of icecream (made with wool) for selah's bday |
| 17:38 |
Sokomine |
siblings are a bit problematic in these sandbox games. i've met countless griefers who claimed that their siblings did it...perhaps that's why some people get suspicious whenever they show up |
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button |
I'm gonna spy |
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Sokomine |
that's vanessas server. she's not generally known for banning people without reason. perhaps there was a misunderstanding? do talk to her |
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button |
Sokomine, i cant talk anywhere at a server maybe connected to irc |
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Warr1024 |
if you're gonna let a brother play, it might be a good idea to get him his own account, too. |
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Sokomine |
Warr1024: certainly! that would be a good start |
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button |
Im muted on IRC inchranet banned on mtz and got nothing else to say but this: IF i stand up and scream and be a man i get banned. |
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fireglow |
kiddie admins :) |
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button |
Sokomine, huh i said ill make a account for him |
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button |
But then... i saw something saying: Banned or something... |
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button |
There.. still voiced. and cant change name at IRC inchranet #minetest |
| 17:41 |
Warr1024 |
if the admins of your favorite server are very fickle, it might also be better for you in the long run to consider switching to a server with admins who are less fickle. |
| 17:42 |
Johnsen2 |
Admin's these days wanna ban ban ban kick kick kick and mute.. |
| 17:42 |
Johnsen2 |
Switching to a server (another?) |
| 17:42 |
twoelk |
sometimes burned ground cant be regained |
| 17:42 |
Warr1024 |
if a server is very popular, admins may be less willing to spend a lot of time resolving conflicts and just give the boot to anyone involved. |
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Tablet_One |
Admins also don't like people who have to be told things repeatedly |
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Warr1024 |
Some admins may just not like people who draw any attention to themselves, even. |
| 17:46 |
twoelk |
attention seeking kids that cannot play by themselves can get annoying at times |
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LazyJ |
Experienced admins know that time wasted on babysitting troublemakers is better spent helping the well behaved players. |
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Johnsen2 |
Umm, i was just kidding that im letting my brother play i was spying on them.. and ca-boof i got banned instandly. now my friends kept asking me to play on mtz basic ever single min |
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xenkey |
https://a.pomf.se/fdildk.png |
| 17:47 |
xenkey |
This is the rather strange thing i'm experiencing |
| 17:48 |
xenkey |
On my server which is running git, there's a dark background |
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Johnsen2 |
That's it. im telling the truth on mtz. how i feel |
| 17:48 |
Warr1024 |
Johnsen2: maybe they didn't ban you for lying; maybe they believed you, and banned you for letting somebody else use your account. |
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Johnsen2 |
MTZ-Basic, cmd me (message) |
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Johnsen2 |
thats what im doing |
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Johnsen2 |
Warr, umm i actually lied. i was just spying. |
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xenkey |
Any ideas? |
| 17:49 |
Johnsen2 |
deezl revoked privileges from you: all |
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Johnsen2 |
This is what happend |
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Johnsen2 |
i've been banned from my server that i loved most |
| 17:50 |
Johnsen2 |
@soul_miner |
| 17:50 |
Johnsen2 |
Johnsen, you cause nothing but problems here |
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Tablet_One |
Your fault, sir |
| 17:50 |
Johnsen2 |
That is what happend next. |
| 17:50 |
Johnsen2 |
DID i? caused problems. (nope) i did not. thats not a problem. |
| 17:50 |
Sokomine |
hmm. mtz really is not a server where banning is likely going to happen too fast...there are other servers around where the situation is diffrent |
| 17:50 |
Johnsen2 |
Sokomine, huh atleast i can still play at VE-Vanilla.. |
| 17:51 |
Johnsen2 |
I'm seriously gonna get banned from that server aren't i? |
| 17:51 |
Tablet_One |
You have to do quite a bit to get banned from MTZ |
| 17:51 |
Sokomine |
talk to vanessae. it's her server, and she's a very reasonable person |
| 17:51 |
* Sokomine |
nods to tablet_one |
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twoelk |
be a good guy, do usefull stuff and maybe the bann gets revoked after some cooling down <- this needs time investment |
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Sokomine |
xenkey: that's normal now, that dark background while accessing inventory/chests/formspecs. it got changed in minetest_game |
| 17:53 |
Johnsen2 |
When i get banned from a server connected to IRC inchranet #minetest i get banned from all the other servers connected to #minetest inchranet |
| 17:54 |
xenkey |
Sokomine: but they're running exactly the same game |
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Johnsen2 |
I'm not allowed to (talk) anymore on IRC inchranet #minetest. huh |
| 17:55 |
Sokomine |
that does sound strange, johnsen. do talk to vanessae |
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Johnsen2 |
Wings_ |
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Johnsen2 |
I don't think Zeno` had made it fair enough |
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Johnsen2 |
Wings_ |
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Johnsen2 |
Rather than revoking the privs, he adds on to it. |
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Sokomine |
xenkey: hm. perhaps those changes did only come into effect with a more recent driver? i do remember that that dark background has been in existance for some time for now |
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Johnsen2 |
Wings always wanted me banned |
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xenkey |
Sokomine: Hrmmmpppf |
| 17:57 |
Johnsen2 |
Trying to login into other servers to talk 3; not gonna work |
| 17:57 |
Johnsen2 |
3: |
| 17:57 |
Sokomine |
she is on irc and can be reached here |
| 17:58 |
Sokomine |
at least in a couple of hours i think. don't know when she'll show up |
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Johnsen2 |
OH MY... |
| 17:58 |
Sokomine |
xenkey: i don't like it much either. maybe we can convince someone to make it configurable? |
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Johnsen2 |
Argh, i have a password for IRC i chould use but not gonna use it might not be good enough for me i might get muted on that account |
| 17:59 |
xenkey |
but it's not on in my local world and is on my server |
| 17:59 |
Sokomine |
a slightly darker background is ok, but this is a bit dark. i liked it better the way it was before. but it's not such a big sissue |
| 17:59 |
xenkey |
Which means that the creative button intrudes into the crafting grid |
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xenkey |
it's quite a difference though |
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Johnsen2 |
I chouldn't use it i might lose the password |
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Sokomine |
Johnsen2: go to rnd's lab. that's a more survival-orientated server, where fighting mobs works amazingly well. it even has a skill system. maybe you'll get along better with the admin there. most of the time i feel like he's at least half-way trolling...but maybe you'll like that :-) |
| 18:00 |
Johnsen2 |
Admins are exactly only at IRC#minetest |
| 18:00 |
Johnsen2 |
YAY |
| 18:01 |
Johnsen2 |
I love trolling. i might even get to be admin in some couple of months. but huh i cant request to be admin just that i was admin on MTZ.. |
| 18:02 |
Johnsen2 |
Yea i'll get along with the admins and owner. not get hated like always (anoyyed) by wings.. and stuff |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
xenkey: I use a bunch of scripts for plotting server performance. http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/Server-scripts/ |
| 18:03 |
VanessaE |
fireglow: yes, it's safe to run moretrees on an existing map. |
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Johnsen2 |
I also love pvp. |
| 18:03 |
VanessaE |
Johnsen2: if someone banned you from a server, that ban is specific to that server and only that server. it does not automatically extend to the other servers in the network unless someone explicitly goes around banning you from the other servers. |
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Johnsen2 |
VE, humm... do i get muted on your ve vanilla server aswell? becuz i got banned and all privs revoked on mtz and also muted on irc |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
and if you're letting someone else use your account, that's a kickable offense at least, probably bannable. and yeah, if you're being excessively annoying, being muted is an appropriate response. |
| 18:04 |
Johnsen2 |
And i remember someone telling me that when i get banned from a server it hops to another server i get banned there.. |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
however I've been afk a lot lately from that channel so idk. |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
no, it doesn't "hop" |
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Johnsen2 |
VE, umm actually i lied im gonna eat and let my brother play but i was spying just wanna see what people says from me sometimes when im gone... `~` |
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Calinou |
there are no global master bans currently |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
if you join one server and act like a total asshole, you'll get banned. if you move to another server in the same network, someone will probably automatically ban you right away |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
but that takes an admin explicitly doing so |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
it's not automatic as suchj |
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VanessaE |
-j |
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Johnsen2 |
~whois away |
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ShadowBot |
Johnsen2: ecks (eckswookieepedia/administrator/pdpc.active.ecks) has been on server kornbluth.freenode.net since 07:57 PM, January 21, 2015 (idle for 17 hours and 37 seconds) and is on #minetest. away is away: Auto away at Sun Mar 22 03:09:40 2015. |
| 18:06 |
Johnsen2 |
O.O |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
heh |
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Calinou |
ecks hates Minetest normally |
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Johnsen2 |
Gonna try out rnd's lab |
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Johnsen2 |
Had to use Johnsen1000 username at rnd's lab `~` cuz my old password wont work |
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Johnsen2 |
~seen Wings_ |
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ShadowBot |
Johnsen2: I haven't seen Wings_ in #minetest. |
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Johnsen2 |
hmm thats intresting seems she's not on |
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VanessaE |
jowrong channel. |
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VanessaE |
Johnsen* |
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VanessaE |
wings doesn't hang out on this network. |
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asie |
pondering on BuildTest again... |
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asie |
but not the currently released one |
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asie |
a new one |
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deezl |
oi, Horus netsplit on inchra |
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est31 |
3 minutes ago |
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xenkey |
should i stop pressing the button? |
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Miner59 |
Hi, does someone know if the function minetest.get_craft_recipe("") has been removed or renamed? Because I get a lua error when I use it with a new built minetest version.. |
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est31 |
Miner59, please explain the error |
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est31 |
there have been some changes for that function, how recent is your build |
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xenkey |
Is there any way to bring back the old inventory? |
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Krock |
xenkey, disable inventory++ and unified_inventory |
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xenkey |
n-no |
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xenkey |
I'm not using them |
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Krock |
w-what else is your problem? |
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xenkey |
I get the old inventory in singleplayer but not in multiplayer with the SAME game |
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xenkey |
i don't know what im doing wronfg |
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Krock |
creative disabled' |
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Krock |
*? |
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xenkey |
uh maybe |
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xenkey |
Krock confirmed for new einstein |
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Krock |
I love his hair. |
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xenkey |
what's the worst that could happen |
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Krock |
When the toilet paper's empty |
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xenkey |
Nah |
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xenkey |
When the only thing you have is a book on cats |
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xenkey |
that's bad |
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Krock |
you have a book on your cats? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgv7: 1 up , 1 down overgeneration for chunk border continuity d6638b4 http://git.io/hQfD (2015-03-22T19:30:08Z) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Protect Player::hud from concurrent modifications 0e5e497 http://git.io/hQTa (2015-03-22T20:47:07+01:00) |
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Johnsen2 |
Spuf spuf |
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ElectronLibre |
I notified something on the latest build (actual HEAD), when you're connected, no HUD and the server freezes.. I have to kill the minetest process. |
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Johnsen2 |
I have news for you everyone. |
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farfadet46 |
hi |
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STHGOM |
hi |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Player: Fix a deadlock triggered by previous commit 0e5e49736c0a5fa29bca257bafc02d7c7a7171c9 0ae75f2 http://git.io/hQnC (2015-03-22T21:33:09+01:00) |
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ElectronLibre |
I like when there is a new item in the feedlist of MinetestBot because it always crashes my clone of MinetestBot on my local IRC server. Wonderful. |
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Calinou |
Minetest Package Manager idea: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11562 |
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est31 |
why code our own, when there are alot of package managers out there? just chose one, either pip, npm, or whatever. |
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est31 |
and then add gui |
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Calinou |
well, you could fork one of these and use it for Minetest |
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Calinou |
do they use namespaces to prevent conflicts? |
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Calinou |
est31, we'd need modders to add .json files probably for this to work well |
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Calinou |
they'd specify version and such |
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est31 |
I had this idea too, but ditched it as it would only consist of aliasses for git commands or a bash for loop |
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est31 |
except of course for the information about the repo part |
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Calinou |
this would allow people to install mods easily |
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Calinou |
without having to browse the Internet randomly :P |
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fireglow |
VanessaE: ping. Is it save to use the moretrees mod on a existing map now? Last time I've tried, this happened: https://fireglow.de/755/temp/snapshot173.png RE: it's doing that again! |
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fireglow |
VanessaE: mutilating jungletrees |
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fireglow |
good thing I made a snapshot |
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Sokomine |
hm, this test village of the lumberjack type got happy: shop, pub, sawmill, church, school |
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Sokomine |
...except that it was the wrong mapgen and now they only got stone around... |
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fireglow |
VanessaE: ping me if you want to debug this later, for now I have uninstalled moretrees and rolled back the map. |
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VanessaE |
fireglow: there's no way moretrees can grief existing trees |
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Sokomine |
fireglow: perhaps some interference? in general, moretrees works pretty fine. it might be that your map(gen?) does something diffrently |
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VanessaE |
there's simply no code in there to do that |
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VanessaE |
all it does is call the engine's spawn_tree() call |
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Sokomine |
it can let the leaves from them vanish |
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Sokomine |
hi oldcoder |
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VanessaE |
maybe they're getting gavegen-griefed |
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VanessaE |
cavegen* |
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VanessaE |
which would be an engine bug |
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fireglow |
hmm! |
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fireglow |
I'm not sure how to proceed |
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Sokomine |
hmmm. fireglows map is a bit..odd...in parts. that's caused by the mapgen. it's floating islands |
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Sokomine |
was that a mapgen by paramat? perhaps he remembers |
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fireglow |
paragen has been disabled for a few months |
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fireglow |
the screenshot is from the default mapgen |
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fireglow |
I could try disabling every other mod and just load moretrees... |
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Sokomine |
there was another map somewhere which had odd occurances around jungletrees |
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OldCoder |
Sokominello |
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fireglow |
nope, also happens with only plantslib and moretrees loaded |
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fireglow |
heh |
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fireglow |
well, besides default, of course |
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Sokomine |
strange, fireglow |
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fireglow |
I mean plantlife_modpack, and moretrees |
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Sokomine |
are you sure you've got the most recent version of all elements? |
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fireglow |
I am sure I've got the most recent version of all elements. |
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fireglow |
Hmm |
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Nihao |
Greetings, keepers of the cubic world! |
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* Sokomine |
throws some wood at nihao for building :-) |
| 21:53 |
Nihao |
We got seriious trouble with pipeworks on our server. Reboots all the time... |
| 21:54 |
Nihao |
I do not understand what happens. But have access to the log in real time. |
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est31 |
Nihao, can you post the log errors on a pastebin? |
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Nihao |
I have saved the last two incidents. And yes, est31, I wanted to propose that. They are three consecutive reboots and you have to know that we already entirely disabled Quarry due to loads of server reboots coming from it. |
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Baraa |
Hello |
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Nihao |
Here it is: |
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Nihao |
http://pastebin.com/tXy9ZVdw |
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Baraa |
est31 are you here ?? |
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Baraa |
what is this nihao |
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Nihao |
Baraa: What is what? |
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Baraa |
Up |
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Baraa |
Nihao: the blue thing |
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Nihao |
:) it is a link to some error messages. |
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Baraa |
oh ok |
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Baraa |
Nihao Do You Know How I Do A Server Please |
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Tablet_Two |
O.o |
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RentedMule |
hey, with indev engine gone, do any of the others support floating islands? or was the lag just too bad? |
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Nihao |
Baraa: Sorry, no. |
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deezl |
Nihao, you still there? |
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Nihao |
Yes, hello deezl! |
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deezl |
what _game are you running pipeworks on? |
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deezl |
standard minetest_game, or some other? |
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Nihao |
deezl: minetest_game modified |
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deezl |
hmm |
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deezl |
I recently had some trouble with pipeworks running in carbone |
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deezl |
any time we placed a auto-crafter, or certain of the pipes, the server would crash immediately |
| 22:30 |
Nihao |
If you want to break your server and render it totally useless, put some water and bones under a Quarry :) |
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deezl |
o.O |
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deezl |
I don't run technic on my servers, due to lag issues |
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Nihao |
Using screwdrivers on pipeworks or machines has a high reset rate, too. |
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deezl |
ouch |
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deezl |
I never found a solution to the issue with carbone, so I just disabled pipeworks |
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Nihao |
You can test that here... |
| 22:32 |
Nihao |
game_minetest-france.fr:30000 |
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deezl |
I don't speak french, are they gonna hang me there? and is it creative? |
| 22:33 |
Nihao |
deezl: nobody hangs you there. |
| 22:33 |
Nihao |
Ask for Crotal. |
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deezl |
lol, ok |
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Nihao |
deezl: Speak German French or English. |
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deezl |
er, not able to connect, I'll double check the address |
| 22:35 |
Nihao |
must be a dot, not a _ |
| 22:35 |
Nihao |
sorry, I have so much headache that I can not write anymore :) |
| 22:36 |
deezl |
there we go...only took 5 attempts |
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Nihao |
I confirm: game.minetest-france.fr |
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LandMine |
Hey peeps |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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