Time Nick Message 01:19 fireglow weird message in the server log: [string "interrupt(1)..."]:5: ')' expected near '::' 01:47 fireglow ah, that might have come from meseons, luacontroller 04:11 fireglow ShadowNinja: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=173580#p173580 for your consideration =) 04:17 hmmmm i think we should think about a better ABM mechanism 04:18 hmmmm there's no way that a 2 block radius from the player is the best we can do when it comes to running very simple checks on an area of nodes 04:19 fireglow hmmmm, hmmmm! :) 04:19 fireglow I agree 04:20 hmmmm that's feedback i've gotten from an IRL friend who got hooked onto minetest 04:21 hmmmm "everything's awesome, except it doesn't make sense that a furnace stops working when I move a little bit away from it" 04:21 hmmmm this is the sentiment of the average player 04:42 exio4 hmmmm: IIRC there is a setting for that radius 04:43 hmmmm sure but the point is that it should be less cpu intensive to begin with so it doesn't need to be set so low by default 05:01 exio4 yeah 07:01 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix some loose ends from 3993093f 13761b127 http://git.io/hyMQ (152015-03-22T02:58:54-04:00) 07:06 PicklesRGood Hi everyone... okay so yeah ,hi. 07:08 VanessaE [off] ^^^^ one of the most irritating users on the Inchra channel 07:39 hmmmm well, pickles are good 07:39 hmmmm you've gotta give him that much 09:06 Krock moin 09:07 nrzkt 185 installations on play store, gg :) 09:11 Calinou only? :/ 09:11 Calinou we ought to get 500 at least 09:14 blaze link 09:56 blaze i see only 35 10:16 nrzkt https://lut.im/LpRtTVvB/22jp9BiF 10:16 Krock 2 days ago 10:20 nrzkt yeah, play store stats works like this 10:21 YvesLevier looking at that! 10:21 YvesLevier Hey :) 10:22 YvesLevier Rounded, it looks exponential 10:24 YvesLevier You want i make a projection in future using matrix inversion? 10:24 YvesLevier Having tools for this 10:25 YvesLevier Tools that had abandoned Windows. Unix only. 10:26 neoascetic Hi all. If this is possible to generate a single big continent with small amount of islands around it and the ocean everywhere else? 10:27 Krock yes sure 10:28 neoascetic Krock can you please provide an example of mapgen params/seed? 10:28 Krock could be a bit complicated if you want to reah that with mgvX 10:28 Krock *rech 10:28 Krock *reach, damn you keyboard 10:29 Krock neoascetic, better use a lua mapgen 10:29 neoascetic Ok, I thought it is possible with mapgen only 10:30 Krock lua mapgen is mapgen 10:48 Krock !tell Jordach meep! 10:48 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around 10:50 CWz Krock: is the Krock on Jordach server really you? beacuse we had lots of imposters on inchra serves recently 10:50 Krock CWz, not anymore. I got a bad allocation 10:51 Krock that server is just too heavy :/ 11:02 Xack !catgirl 11:02 Xack :< 11:04 Xack Krock: meep 11:19 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove unused ConnectionCommand::sendToAll function. NetworkPacket::oldForgePacket returns Buffer instead of SharedBuffer and is used in ConnectionCommand instead of Connection::Send 1361f2d0c http://git.io/hSzz (152015-03-22T12:18:16+01:00) 11:27 Calinou Krock, which server are you talking about? 11:27 Calinou I don't host any Minetest server 11:32 xenkey Hello everybody 12:05 farfadet46 helllo 12:05 Krock Calinou, oh sorry. 12:06 Calinou it's ok, but I'm considering asking to get it banned 12:27 deezl I must have missed something, Calinou, what should be banned? 12:32 Krock "his" server 12:35 ElectronLibre If you're talking about who I think you're talking about, it's her server. 12:44 Sketch2 hi 12:45 Sketch2 I want to be sure that everybody knows I was trying to do right, and not upset anyone with my server 12:45 Sketch2 someone was acting as Calinou on it 12:46 Sketch2 I don't think any harm has really come of it 12:46 Sketch2 but it would be best that others know it happened 12:47 Sketch2 I believe the offending user's IP was 151.228.208.35 12:47 ElectronLibre Sketch2, I just looked in my IRC client's logs and it's right. 12:47 Sketch2 so if anyone sees any further suspicious activity from that IP, then you might let others know 13:14 Sketch2 OK so I just WHOIS'ed everybody in the chat room and the only two that come close to the traceroute location of London are exio4 and xenkey 13:15 exio4 wat 13:15 Sketch2 make what you will of that info. not saying it's one of them, just that if there is a hacker / lurker, that's where my suspicions would be. 13:15 Calinou [off] it's likely to be KittenHelper, they have been trolling InchraNet 13:15 ElectronLibre Sketch2, I checked everyone in the chat room too, no one have the exact informations that had the person you seek. 13:16 Sketch2 ty ElectionLibre 13:19 ElectronLibre [off] Calinou: I look at everyone joining the channel's complete mask, and if it's from webchat I use whois. I have memorized KittenHelper's FAI's name, her ident and her IP, if someone matches these informations I could easily see it. And don't forget she doesn't act normally, she has a strange behavior sometimes. 13:34 someguy_irc swee 13:34 someguy_irc nvm 14:00 fireglow meow 14:03 Jordach meow 14:05 Zeno` ROAR 14:08 deezl ElectronLibre, Sketch2, et al, yes, the above referenced ip for "Kittenhelper" has been a big problem on multiple servers, and she likes to parade around as Admin-level players on servers, and has, through some social-engineering, obtained elevated privs on several servers in order to discredit/disrupt other player/mods/admins 14:09 ElectronLibre That's maybe why Sketch2 and I thought it was important to talk about it here. 14:10 deezl yep, several server owners are aware, I would suggest maybe blocking the ip entirely in iptables 14:10 ElectronLibre Good idea. 14:11 ElectronLibre All the operators from channels I go on have banned her, she is klined from Inchra but she now attacks servers. Some people thought about banning her ip from masterserver but again devs would be opposed to it. 14:12 deezl yeah 14:13 ElectronLibre Another idea was to ban her ip directly in iptables, for all admins, and warn to be careful with unknown servers in public list appearing suddenly, where players with famous names play. 14:35 Jordach Zeno`, my server bungled your players :D 14:35 Zeno` bungled? 14:37 Zeno` I hope you know that today is Emmy Noether's birthday 14:38 fireglow nrzkt: what's your apps name? 14:42 Zeno` roger? 14:54 nrzkt fireglow, which app ? 14:55 fireglow nrzkt: that one: nrzkt │ https://lut.im/LpRtTVvB/22jp9BiF 14:56 nrzkt it's google play store developper console 14:57 fireglow wow 14:57 fireglow okay, nevermind =) 15:16 luizrpgluiz hi 15:22 rubenwardy Who is C1ffisme? 15:29 ElectronLibre rubenwardy, I have no idea, but you're not the first one to talk about him. 15:30 rubenwardy He seems to be using GitHub issues as a forum 15:32 ElectronLibre Yes, I saw that, and some other people did too :/ 15:44 xenkey what was the mod that engulfed whole trees in one go? 15:45 deezl treecapitator 15:46 xenkey thanks 15:46 deezl np :D 15:46 xenkey .playing on my server as a normal user 15:46 deezl love that mod 15:46 xenkey just to see whats missing 15:46 xenkey and yes it's useful 15:47 deezl helps with the noobish players that mine about half a tree and leave the rest floating 15:48 xenkey exacrly 15:48 xenkey like me :P 15:49 deezl lol 15:51 xenkey > log in as normal player | > say you found a bug | > restart server 15:53 xenkey You should try it, you seem as though to have a good set of standards, perhaps you could give me some constructive criticism, deezl 15:53 deezl hehe 15:54 deezl what server is yours? 15:54 xenkey Zenith one 15:54 xenkey mt.3tm.net 15:55 xenkey What was the mod that allowed players to teleport to each other? 15:55 xenkey And what would you suggest for a crafting guide? 15:57 ElectronLibre Unified_inventory contains a craft_guide in its inventory. 15:57 ElectronLibre And about players to teleport to each other... giving teleport by default is the same. Also, there is craft_guide mod, but not sure it's still working. 15:57 xenkey I dislike unified though, it's too bloated for my needs 15:58 xenkey giving teleport by default? 15:58 xenkey What kind of trickery is this 15:58 deezl the teleport thing is...tpr I think? 15:58 xenkey Yeah tpa and tph 15:58 deezl I really like UI 15:59 deezl my creative server gives teleport by default 16:01 deezl hi est31 16:01 est31 hi deezl :) 16:03 Jordach i've only just noticed 16:03 Jordach the coffee machine in homedecor has a particle spawner adding vapor to the coffee mug 16:03 deezl that must be new 16:05 xenkey deezl: Want to take a look? 16:06 deezl xenkey, at your server? sure 16:06 xenkey I'm playing as a user and seeing on what I could improve, I'd be glad if you could join me and criticize a bit 16:07 deezl which server? 16:07 deezl oh, nvm 16:07 deezl sorry 16:08 deezl I didn't realize you had said it earlier 16:09 deezl I was on there the other day to look around, but sure, I'll come by, gimme a couple minutes 16:12 rubenwardy !title https://youtu.be/ctnvad6fewA 16:12 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Destroyable Environment 3 - Networking - YouTube 16:19 YvesLevier Hi :) i cant put DVD player nor Speaker driver anywhere. Som1 know why? 16:20 deezl they are not placeable nodes, just craft items 16:20 est31 finally a version of windows without GUI 16:21 YvesLevier deezl: You mean... items used by developers to make items? 16:22 YvesLevier Trying to figure what they deserve to? 16:22 deezl YvesLevier, yes, the are craftitems used to make other things in the game, I assume you are using VanessaE's Homedecor_modpack? 16:22 YvesLevier I do 16:23 deezl est31, what wondows has no GUI? 16:23 deezl other than DOS 16:23 est31 deezl, http://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=http%3a%2f%2fvideo.ch9.ms%2fsessions%2fwinhec%2f2015%2ffiles%2fIOT201a.pptx 16:23 est31 https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/WinHEC/2015/IOT201 16:23 xenkey What's the setting that lets me see the positions of all players on the server? 16:24 deezl you mean just to see there tags? 16:24 est31 you personally, or everybody everybodies 16:24 Calinou unlimited_player_transfer_distance = true 16:24 Calinou that is the default, xenkey 16:24 est31 yes 16:25 xenkey Would you advise against setting it to false? 16:25 deezl I use player_transfer_distance = 10 on the carbone server 16:25 deezl since PVP is enabled 16:25 Calinou setting it to false renders your players kind of asocial :P 16:26 YvesLevier deezl: est31: You mean VanessaE is planning to make loudspeakers... eventualy? 16:26 deezl the speakers are already in the modpack 16:27 YvesLevier All i found are home speakers 16:29 deezl YvesLevier, yes, those the ones 16:29 YvesLevier Means she doesnt use Speaker drivers yet. Right? 16:30 xenkey Know any craft guide mods which don't use unified? 16:31 deezl zcg 16:32 YvesLevier VanessaE: ^ (about speakers drivers... for loudspeakers) 16:33 deezl the speaker drivers are required to craft the speakers 16:33 YvesLevier hidden? 16:34 deezl what do you mean hidden? 16:34 xenkey ssh xen@mt.3tm.net 'tar -zcf .minetest/games' | cat - files.tar.gz 16:34 xenkey Look good? 16:34 xenkey If this doesn't work... 16:35 YvesLevier deezl: i mean i wish speakers with speaker drivers to be seen on speakers appearance 16:35 deezl better to stop the server first 16:35 xenkey not at all 16:35 xenkey it'll work just fine 16:36 deezl YvesLevier, so you want speakers with the covers off... 16:36 YvesLevier YESS 16:36 YvesLevier ;) 16:36 deezl you may have to create your own textures for that 16:36 deezl or beg VanessaE to add those in :D 16:36 deezl that would be kinda neat 16:38 YvesLevier Will. Thx :) 16:57 xenkey https://a.pomf.se/ 16:57 xenkey um 16:57 xenkey Why does my scrot script randomly break 16:59 est31 scrot? I'm not googling that word. 16:59 est31 !g scrot 16:59 MinetestBot est31: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrot 16:59 Calinou it's a screenshot tool, very simple 16:59 Calinou installed it here because Debian lacks one by default 16:59 * Calinou should bind it to Print Screen 16:59 Calinou done 17:00 xenkey I have a script to automagically upload the image and copy the url to my clipboard 17:00 Calinou I like how Xfce makes it easy to add new key-bindings 17:00 xenkey Calinou: what DE/WM do you use? 17:00 Calinou Xfce + Xfwm 17:00 xenkey heh 17:00 est31 why do people name userspace tools like genitals 17:00 xenkey https://a.pomf.se/ 17:00 est31 weird 17:00 xenkey Okay it's minetest's fault 17:00 Calinou Minetest can screenshot with F12 17:00 Calinou (PNG format only) 17:00 Calinou use a script to auto-convert to JPEG 17:01 est31 JPEG is lossy, PNG isn't 17:01 est31 saving screenshots to jpeg by default would be bad 17:04 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Revert "Add a Lua call to do damages / heals" ok @ShadowNinja 13008d7e0 http://git.io/hHGq (152015-03-22T18:01:56+01:00) 17:04 Sokomine hmm. the save files are pretty big, and we do exchange them in that size on the forum...saving space there might be a good idea....although i'm not sure how...safe...jpeg is by now 17:05 est31 minetest save files you mean? 17:05 Calinou est31, yeah, PNG is fine 17:05 Calinou but some people might want to screenshot to JPEG (slow connection) 17:05 est31 they can use imagemagick 17:05 Sokomine no, the screenshots 17:05 Sokomine they tend to sum up... 17:05 est31 or other tools they want 17:05 ShadowNinja nrzkt: No "ok @" please. Add "Approved by: ShadowNinja" to the description instead if you must. 17:06 nrzkt why not ? 17:06 est31 "do one thing, and do it good" 17:07 xenkey deezl: http://pastie.org/10045538 17:07 xenkey I thought it did a good job :c 17:07 Calinou est31> they can use imagemagick 17:07 xenkey Any suggestions for a low-end 4 core machine? 17:07 Calinou what if you're on Windows? :P 17:07 Calinou xenkey, you mean a physical machine? get a cheap, recent i5 17:08 xenkey Calinou: i meant amendations to the aforementioned configuration file geared towards a low end 4-core machine 17:09 Calinou num_emerge_threads = 4 multithreads mapgen but might break some caves 17:09 Calinou that's why it is 1 by default 17:10 xenkey yeah i have that one 17:10 est31 Calinou, I admit, unix philosophy doesn't apply there, also I guess that most users of minetest wont know this philosophy, but I dunno if people really want to download mozjpeg along with minetest just to save screenshots as jpeg 17:10 xenkey it's still laggy as a bitch though 17:10 Calinou libjpeg is easy to get 17:10 Calinou use a recent version though 17:10 est31 libjpeg isnt as optimized as mozjpeg 17:15 Sokomine xenkey: what kind of hardware do you use? 17:19 xenkey ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) 17:19 xenkey 4 cores, 2GB RAM 17:19 xenkey it's the hardware float one 17:20 Sokomine ah. one of these tiny boards? 17:21 xenkey Yeah 17:21 xenkey Works alright though 17:21 Sokomine i've just tested my villages on a pi 1 where someone allowed me to test it over the net 17:21 xenkey It has a dedicated IP with 100mbit uplink though 17:21 exio4 Calinou: "a cheap, recent i5" 17:21 exio4 Calinou: I think that doesn't make sense 17:21 Calinou hello AMD fan :) 17:22 Calinou there's i5 for 160 € 17:22 exio4 that's cheap? 17:22 exio4 nice one 17:23 Calinou then buy an i3 17:23 Calinou good dual-core is better than bad quad-core 17:23 xenkey VanessaE: how exactly could I plot the performance of my server against the online players? 17:23 Sokomine i wonder if my phone will be able to handle the villages code...oh. it seems it does 17:23 exio4 Calinou: which i3? 17:23 xenkey Using RRDtool that is 17:24 Calinou exio4, the slowest (non-S one) usually 17:25 exio4 Calinou: sounds like a waste of money 17:31 fireglow VanessaE: ping. Is it save to use the moretrees mod on a existing map now? Last time I've tried, this happened: https://fireglow.de/755/temp/snapshot173.png 17:32 SecretSpy * WidDos think Video games turning ppl into angry mobs 17:33 Johnsen2 It's true 17:33 Johnsen2 Video Games (minetest) is turning admins into angry mobs 17:34 Johnsen2 Banning 17:34 Johnsen2 kicking 17:34 Johnsen2 even muting! 17:34 Sokomine how did a screenshot under android work again? 17:34 Sokomine johnsen2: that sounds odd 17:34 xenkey power and home? 17:35 Johnsen2 @soul_miner 17:35 Johnsen2 Johnsen is banned from mtz at the moment, and I'm not interested in giving him a platform to cry about it right now 17:35 Johnsen2 Thats what soul miner said 17:35 Calinou Sokomine, Power + Volume Down 17:35 Calinou I think 17:36 Johnsen2 Sokomine, i lied that ill let my brother play but i was spying then i got banned THEN i got muted on irc i got banned from mtz 17:36 Johnsen2 just for "LYING" i get banned? thats not a great reason to ban or mute or kick 17:37 Warr1024 what did you lie about? 17:37 Johnsen2 That im letting my brother play. i was spying only. 17:37 Sokomine caliou: hmm. doesn't work right now. but on a tablet, i had another option for screenshots...it did show up amongst the softkeys. hm 17:37 Sokomine where did you get banned, johonsen2? 17:38 Johnsen2 MTZ-Basic. it was my favorite server ever i even made a bowl of icecream (made with wool) for selah's bday 17:38 Sokomine siblings are a bit problematic in these sandbox games. i've met countless griefers who claimed that their siblings did it...perhaps that's why some people get suspicious whenever they show up 17:38 button I'm gonna spy 17:38 Sokomine that's vanessas server. she's not generally known for banning people without reason. perhaps there was a misunderstanding? do talk to her 17:39 button Sokomine, i cant talk anywhere at a server maybe connected to irc 17:39 Warr1024 if you're gonna let a brother play, it might be a good idea to get him his own account, too. 17:40 Sokomine Warr1024: certainly! that would be a good start 17:40 button Im muted on IRC inchranet banned on mtz and got nothing else to say but this: IF i stand up and scream and be a man i get banned. 17:40 fireglow kiddie admins :) 17:40 button Sokomine, huh i said ill make a account for him 17:40 button But then... i saw something saying: Banned or something... 17:41 button There.. still voiced. and cant change name at IRC inchranet #minetest 17:41 Warr1024 if the admins of your favorite server are very fickle, it might also be better for you in the long run to consider switching to a server with admins who are less fickle. 17:42 Johnsen2 Admin's these days wanna ban ban ban kick kick kick and mute.. 17:42 Johnsen2 Switching to a server (another?) 17:42 twoelk sometimes burned ground cant be regained 17:42 Warr1024 if a server is very popular, admins may be less willing to spend a lot of time resolving conflicts and just give the boot to anyone involved. 17:43 Tablet_One Admins also don't like people who have to be told things repeatedly 17:44 Warr1024 Some admins may just not like people who draw any attention to themselves, even. 17:46 twoelk attention seeking kids that cannot play by themselves can get annoying at times 17:46 LazyJ Experienced admins know that time wasted on babysitting troublemakers is better spent helping the well behaved players. 17:46 Johnsen2 Umm, i was just kidding that im letting my brother play i was spying on them.. and ca-boof i got banned instandly. now my friends kept asking me to play on mtz basic ever single min 17:47 xenkey https://a.pomf.se/fdildk.png 17:47 xenkey This is the rather strange thing i'm experiencing 17:48 xenkey On my server which is running git, there's a dark background 17:48 Johnsen2 That's it. im telling the truth on mtz. how i feel 17:48 Warr1024 Johnsen2: maybe they didn't ban you for lying; maybe they believed you, and banned you for letting somebody else use your account. 17:48 Johnsen2 MTZ-Basic, cmd me (message) 17:48 Johnsen2 thats what im doing 17:48 Johnsen2 Warr, umm i actually lied. i was just spying. 17:48 xenkey Any ideas? 17:49 Johnsen2 deezl revoked privileges from you: all 17:49 Johnsen2 This is what happend 17:49 Johnsen2 i've been banned from my server that i loved most 17:50 Johnsen2 @soul_miner 17:50 Johnsen2 Johnsen, you cause nothing but problems here 17:50 Tablet_One Your fault, sir 17:50 Johnsen2 That is what happend next. 17:50 Johnsen2 DID i? caused problems. (nope) i did not. thats not a problem. 17:50 Sokomine hmm. mtz really is not a server where banning is likely going to happen too fast...there are other servers around where the situation is diffrent 17:50 Johnsen2 Sokomine, huh atleast i can still play at VE-Vanilla.. 17:51 Johnsen2 I'm seriously gonna get banned from that server aren't i? 17:51 Tablet_One You have to do quite a bit to get banned from MTZ 17:51 Sokomine talk to vanessae. it's her server, and she's a very reasonable person 17:51 * Sokomine nods to tablet_one 17:52 twoelk be a good guy, do usefull stuff and maybe the bann gets revoked after some cooling down <- this needs time investment 17:52 Sokomine xenkey: that's normal now, that dark background while accessing inventory/chests/formspecs. it got changed in minetest_game 17:53 Johnsen2 When i get banned from a server connected to IRC inchranet #minetest i get banned from all the other servers connected to #minetest inchranet 17:54 xenkey Sokomine: but they're running exactly the same game 17:54 Johnsen2 I'm not allowed to (talk) anymore on IRC inchranet #minetest. huh 17:55 Sokomine that does sound strange, johnsen. do talk to vanessae 17:55 Johnsen2 Wings_ 17:55 Johnsen2 I don't think Zeno` had made it fair enough 17:55 Johnsen2 Wings_ 17:56 Johnsen2 Rather than revoking the privs, he adds on to it. 17:56 Sokomine xenkey: hm. perhaps those changes did only come into effect with a more recent driver? i do remember that that dark background has been in existance for some time for now 17:56 Johnsen2 Wings always wanted me banned 17:56 xenkey Sokomine: Hrmmmpppf 17:57 Johnsen2 Trying to login into other servers to talk 3; not gonna work 17:57 Johnsen2 3: 17:57 Sokomine she is on irc and can be reached here 17:58 Sokomine at least in a couple of hours i think. don't know when she'll show up 17:58 Johnsen2 OH MY... 17:58 Sokomine xenkey: i don't like it much either. maybe we can convince someone to make it configurable? 17:58 Johnsen2 Argh, i have a password for IRC i chould use but not gonna use it might not be good enough for me i might get muted on that account 17:59 xenkey but it's not on in my local world and is on my server 17:59 Sokomine a slightly darker background is ok, but this is a bit dark. i liked it better the way it was before. but it's not such a big sissue 17:59 xenkey Which means that the creative button intrudes into the crafting grid 17:59 xenkey it's quite a difference though 18:00 Johnsen2 I chouldn't use it i might lose the password 18:00 Sokomine Johnsen2: go to rnd's lab. that's a more survival-orientated server, where fighting mobs works amazingly well. it even has a skill system. maybe you'll get along better with the admin there. most of the time i feel like he's at least half-way trolling...but maybe you'll like that :-) 18:00 Johnsen2 Admins are exactly only at IRC#minetest 18:00 Johnsen2 YAY 18:01 Johnsen2 I love trolling. i might even get to be admin in some couple of months. but huh i cant request to be admin just that i was admin on MTZ.. 18:02 Johnsen2 Yea i'll get along with the admins and owner. not get hated like always (anoyyed) by wings.. and stuff 18:02 VanessaE xenkey: I use a bunch of scripts for plotting server performance. http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/Server-scripts/ 18:03 VanessaE fireglow: yes, it's safe to run moretrees on an existing map. 18:03 Johnsen2 I also love pvp. 18:03 VanessaE Johnsen2: if someone banned you from a server, that ban is specific to that server and only that server. it does not automatically extend to the other servers in the network unless someone explicitly goes around banning you from the other servers. 18:03 Johnsen2 VE, humm... do i get muted on your ve vanilla server aswell? becuz i got banned and all privs revoked on mtz and also muted on irc 18:04 VanessaE and if you're letting someone else use your account, that's a kickable offense at least, probably bannable. and yeah, if you're being excessively annoying, being muted is an appropriate response. 18:04 Johnsen2 And i remember someone telling me that when i get banned from a server it hops to another server i get banned there.. 18:04 VanessaE however I've been afk a lot lately from that channel so idk. 18:05 VanessaE no, it doesn't "hop" 18:05 Johnsen2 VE, umm actually i lied im gonna eat and let my brother play but i was spying just wanna see what people says from me sometimes when im gone... `~` 18:05 Calinou there are no global master bans currently 18:05 VanessaE if you join one server and act like a total asshole, you'll get banned. if you move to another server in the same network, someone will probably automatically ban you right away 18:06 VanessaE but that takes an admin explicitly doing so 18:06 VanessaE it's not automatic as suchj 18:06 VanessaE -j 18:06 Johnsen2 ~whois away 18:06 ShadowBot Johnsen2: ecks (ecks@wookieepedia/administrator/pdpc.active.ecks) has been on server kornbluth.freenode.net since 07:57 PM, January 21, 2015 (idle for 17 hours and 37 seconds) and is on #minetest. away is away: Auto away at Sun Mar 22 03:09:40 2015. 18:06 Johnsen2 O.O 18:06 Calinou heh 18:06 Calinou ecks hates Minetest normally 18:07 Johnsen2 Gonna try out rnd's lab 18:09 Johnsen2 Had to use Johnsen1000 username at rnd's lab `~` cuz my old password wont work 18:10 Johnsen2 ~seen Wings_ 18:10 ShadowBot Johnsen2: I haven't seen Wings_ in #minetest. 18:11 Johnsen2 hmm thats intresting seems she's not on 18:11 VanessaE jowrong channel. 18:11 VanessaE Johnsen* 18:11 VanessaE wings doesn't hang out on this network. 18:18 asie pondering on BuildTest again... 18:18 asie but not the currently released one 18:18 asie a new one 18:42 deezl oi, Horus netsplit on inchra 18:43 est31 3 minutes ago 18:50 xenkey should i stop pressing the button? 18:58 Miner59 Hi, does someone know if the function minetest.get_craft_recipe("") has been removed or renamed? Because I get a lua error when I use it with a new built minetest version.. 19:03 est31 Miner59, please explain the error 19:04 est31 there have been some changes for that function, how recent is your build 19:05 xenkey Is there any way to bring back the old inventory? 19:07 Krock xenkey, disable inventory++ and unified_inventory 19:07 xenkey n-no 19:07 xenkey I'm not using them 19:08 Krock w-what else is your problem? 19:08 xenkey I get the old inventory in singleplayer but not in multiplayer with the SAME game 19:08 xenkey i don't know what im doing wronfg 19:09 Krock creative disabled' 19:09 Krock *? 19:09 xenkey uh maybe 19:10 xenkey Krock confirmed for new einstein 19:11 Krock I love his hair. 19:11 xenkey what's the worst that could happen 19:12 Krock When the toilet paper's empty 19:13 xenkey Nah 19:13 xenkey When the only thing you have is a book on cats 19:13 xenkey that's bad 19:14 Krock you have a book on your cats? 19:41 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Mgv7: 1 up , 1 down overgeneration for chunk border continuity 13d6638b4 http://git.io/hQfD (152015-03-22T19:30:08Z) 19:50 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Protect Player::hud from concurrent modifications 130e5e497 http://git.io/hQTa (152015-03-22T20:47:07+01:00) 20:07 Johnsen2 Spuf spuf 20:20 ElectronLibre I notified something on the latest build (actual HEAD), when you're connected, no HUD and the server freezes.. I have to kill the minetest process. 20:20 Johnsen2 I have news for you everyone. 20:28 farfadet46 hi 20:29 STHGOM hi 20:34 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Player: Fix a deadlock triggered by previous commit 0e5e49736c0a5fa29bca257bafc02d7c7a7171c9 130ae75f2 http://git.io/hQnC (152015-03-22T21:33:09+01:00) 20:36 ElectronLibre I like when there is a new item in the feedlist of MinetestBot because it always crashes my clone of MinetestBot on my local IRC server. Wonderful. 20:57 Calinou Minetest Package Manager idea: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11562 21:01 est31 why code our own, when there are alot of package managers out there? just chose one, either pip, npm, or whatever. 21:01 est31 and then add gui 21:05 Calinou well, you could fork one of these and use it for Minetest 21:05 Calinou do they use namespaces to prevent conflicts? 21:06 Calinou est31, we'd need modders to add .json files probably for this to work well 21:06 Calinou they'd specify version and such 21:18 est31 I had this idea too, but ditched it as it would only consist of aliasses for git commands or a bash for loop 21:18 est31 except of course for the information about the repo part 21:20 Calinou this would allow people to install mods easily 21:20 Calinou without having to browse the Internet randomly :P 21:25 fireglow VanessaE: ping. Is it save to use the moretrees mod on a existing map now? Last time I've tried, this happened: https://fireglow.de/755/temp/snapshot173.png RE: it's doing that again! 21:25 fireglow VanessaE: mutilating jungletrees 21:25 fireglow good thing I made a snapshot 21:29 Sokomine hm, this test village of the lumberjack type got happy: shop, pub, sawmill, church, school 21:29 Sokomine ...except that it was the wrong mapgen and now they only got stone around... 21:30 fireglow VanessaE: ping me if you want to debug this later, for now I have uninstalled moretrees and rolled back the map. 21:32 VanessaE fireglow: there's no way moretrees can grief existing trees 21:32 Sokomine fireglow: perhaps some interference? in general, moretrees works pretty fine. it might be that your map(gen?) does something diffrently 21:32 VanessaE there's simply no code in there to do that 21:32 VanessaE all it does is call the engine's spawn_tree() call 21:32 Sokomine it can let the leaves from them vanish 21:32 Sokomine hi oldcoder 21:32 VanessaE maybe they're getting gavegen-griefed 21:32 VanessaE cavegen* 21:32 VanessaE which would be an engine bug 21:33 fireglow hmm! 21:34 fireglow I'm not sure how to proceed 21:34 Sokomine hmmm. fireglows map is a bit..odd...in parts. that's caused by the mapgen. it's floating islands 21:34 Sokomine was that a mapgen by paramat? perhaps he remembers 21:35 fireglow paragen has been disabled for a few months 21:35 fireglow the screenshot is from the default mapgen 21:37 fireglow I could try disabling every other mod and just load moretrees... 21:39 Sokomine there was another map somewhere which had odd occurances around jungletrees 21:41 OldCoder Sokominello 21:44 fireglow nope, also happens with only plantslib and moretrees loaded 21:44 fireglow heh 21:44 fireglow well, besides default, of course 21:44 Sokomine strange, fireglow 21:45 fireglow I mean plantlife_modpack, and moretrees 21:47 Sokomine are you sure you've got the most recent version of all elements? 21:48 fireglow I am sure I've got the most recent version of all elements. 21:51 fireglow Hmm 21:52 Nihao Greetings, keepers of the cubic world! 21:52 * Sokomine throws some wood at nihao for building :-) 21:53 Nihao We got seriious trouble with pipeworks on our server. Reboots all the time... 21:54 Nihao I do not understand what happens. But have access to the log in real time. 21:54 est31 Nihao, can you post the log errors on a pastebin? 21:55 Nihao I have saved the last two incidents. And yes, est31, I wanted to propose that. They are three consecutive reboots and you have to know that we already entirely disabled Quarry due to loads of server reboots coming from it. 21:56 Baraa Hello 21:57 Nihao Here it is: 21:57 Nihao http://pastebin.com/tXy9ZVdw 21:57 Baraa est31 are you here ?? 21:58 Baraa what is this nihao 21:59 Nihao Baraa: What is what? 22:01 Baraa Up 22:01 Baraa Nihao: the blue thing 22:02 Nihao :) it is a link to some error messages. 22:03 Baraa oh ok 22:07 Baraa Nihao Do You Know How I Do A Server Please 22:14 Tablet_Two O.o 22:16 RentedMule hey, with indev engine gone, do any of the others support floating islands? or was the lag just too bad? 22:16 Nihao Baraa: Sorry, no. 22:28 deezl Nihao, you still there? 22:28 Nihao Yes, hello deezl! 22:28 deezl what _game are you running pipeworks on? 22:29 deezl standard minetest_game, or some other? 22:29 Nihao deezl: minetest_game modified 22:29 deezl hmm 22:30 deezl I recently had some trouble with pipeworks running in carbone 22:30 deezl any time we placed a auto-crafter, or certain of the pipes, the server would crash immediately 22:30 Nihao If you want to break your server and render it totally useless, put some water and bones under a Quarry :) 22:31 deezl o.O 22:31 deezl I don't run technic on my servers, due to lag issues 22:31 Nihao Using screwdrivers on pipeworks or machines has a high reset rate, too. 22:31 deezl ouch 22:32 deezl I never found a solution to the issue with carbone, so I just disabled pipeworks 22:32 Nihao You can test that here... 22:32 Nihao game_minetest-france.fr:30000 22:33 deezl I don't speak french, are they gonna hang me there? and is it creative? 22:33 Nihao deezl: nobody hangs you there. 22:33 Nihao Ask for Crotal. 22:33 deezl lol, ok 22:34 Nihao deezl: Speak German French or English. 22:34 deezl er, not able to connect, I'll double check the address 22:35 Nihao must be a dot, not a _ 22:35 Nihao sorry, I have so much headache that I can not write anymore :) 22:36 deezl there we go...only took 5 attempts 22:37 Nihao I confirm: game.minetest-france.fr 22:56 LandMine Hey peeps 23:15 luizrpgluiz hi