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00:16 est31 Wuzzy, you online?
00:16 Wuzzy yes
00:16 Wuzzy Hi you :-)
00:17 est31 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=170286#p170286
00:17 est31 this one is a bug thats fixed in master
00:17 Wuzzy master of what?
00:18 Wuzzy Technic or Minetest The Engine?
00:18 est31 engine
00:18 Wuzzy holy shit o_O
00:19 Wuzzy lol, I especially find those large fire cubes hilarious
00:19 est31 Lucky you, my version made client crash
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00:19 Wuzzy Yes, I was really lucky. Just a test world anyways
00:20 Wuzzy IMO Minetest should have bugfix releases more frequently, not just at the “normal” releases.
00:20 Wuzzy Especially for just serious bugs like this one
00:21 est31 everybody is free to compile and upload cherry picked branches
00:22 est31 to forums
00:22 Wuzzy pointless if you want a certain bugfix X, theres the chance, 5 other bugs come in, too
00:22 est31 thats why do cherry pick
00:22 Wuzzy i prefer the release builds, i use master seldomly
00:22 est31 unless the fix commit introduced bug
00:23 est31 you can try to check out 0.4.12-freeze
00:23 est31 or switch or whatever
00:23 est31 extra branch for old version
00:24 Wuzzy Well, its too much of a hassle for me and I recently just do random stuff in Minetest anyways, so I don't care THAT much
00:25 est31 if you dont like building, there are RC releases in forum
00:25 est31 of that branch
00:26 Wuzzy Huh? Where? I don't see the thread.
00:27 est31 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=11227
00:27 Wuzzy OMG
00:27 est31 you posted there :)
00:27 est31 rofl
00:27 Wuzzy why is there not Builds thread for this >_>
00:28 Wuzzy and its just windows
00:28 Wuzzy Whatever, as I said: I don't care THAT much at the moment anyways.
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00:59 MinetestBot [git] Uberi -> Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Merge pull request #73 from est31/hidebutton https:/ http://git.io/NdCB (2015-02-16T19:58:59-05:00)
00:59 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Make inventory++ hide button for players without worldedit priv https:/ http://git.io/NdCR (2015-02-16T23:05:18+01:00)
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03:17 DFeniks how to set water level in mapgen for biomes?
03:20 DFeniks never mind it was just there . i found it
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05:03 Firebudgy hello
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06:48 Inocudom Bye.
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07:42 mazal Morning everyone. Pipeworks related: Is there a way I can setup a filter or tube so that it will only remove something from a chest once the chest is full ?
07:43 mazal If chests not full , then remove nothing
07:43 est31 do you want to establish an overflow?
07:44 mazal I want to send stuff that overflow to a trash can
07:44 mazal But don't quite know how to achieve that
07:44 est31 that can be done with a sorting tube
07:45 mazal I'm not following
07:45 est31 just add it there, disable the "incoming" entry, and "sort" everything into the chest, but keep the overflow enabled
07:45 est31 thats the safest way
07:45 est31 perhaps there is a safer one
07:46 mazal How do you tell it want must go down the overflow ?
07:47 mazal So I must not have a seperate tube that takes stuff out ?
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08:16 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: SAO work: ActiveObject types & SAO cleanup * Replace u8 types with ActiveObjectType. * Merge content_object.h into activeobject.h * Remove DummyLoadSAO, it's now unused. * Remove ItemSAO, it's also unused f8d5af7 http://git.io/NFQC (2015-02-17T09:09:50+01:00)
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09:28 nore https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=12845 <-- spam
09:28 nore (at least, it looks like)
09:34 jin_xi you can report it
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10:40 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: SAO: re-add old ActiveObjectTypes for a future migration layer c58d499 http://git.io/NbVG (2015-02-17T11:37:55+01:00)
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13:05 ILoveGurochan Hi guys
13:05 ILoveGurochan Does somebody know what happened to VikingCrafter?
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13:22 luizrpgluiz hi
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13:47 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Replace std::list by std::vector into ServerMap::listAllLoadableBlocks ServerMap::listAllLoadedBlocks and their database backends. 718bcaf http://git.io/NNrN (2015-02-17T14:35:44+01:00)
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13:51 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Remove old comment from Network Rework Patch 2/4 54487b3 http://git.io/NNKX (2015-02-17T14:49:21+01:00)
13:56 homer77 hello! I am trying to setup a dedicated server on an ubuntu14.04 based home server. I installed minetest-server from ppa:minetestdev/stable and unpacked carbone into /usr/share/games/minetest/games and also chmod to root:root.
13:57 homer77 I now start the server with an unprivileged user 'minetest' and server starts and works ... but:
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14:02 luizrpgluiz there is some warion here on irc?
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14:02 luizrpgluiz msantana:oi
14:03 msantana luizrpgluiz: Is allowed portuguese here? :)
14:04 ThatGraemeGuy no, just English
14:04 msantana luizrpgluiz: anyway, Oi!
14:04 msantana ThatGraemeGuy: thanks
14:05 luizrpgluiz msantana:well, I speak Portuguese but the staff speaks English here, I thought you were Brazilian or Portuguese
14:07 homer77 When I connect with my client to server it connects but seems to load nothing but vanilla minetest
14:07 msantana luizrpgluiz: yes, I'm Brazilian.  If you would like to talk in portuguese just do it by pvt.  ;-)
14:08 homer77 I thought that a client would download every needed mods and textures from server but here it did obviously not.
14:08 MinetestBot [git] Novatux -> minetest/minetest: Ignore old entities from 0.3. 24315db http://git.io/NNyI (2015-02-17T15:07:05+01:00)
14:09 homer77 also the server doesn't create any auth.txt or .minetest.conf.
14:09 homer77 Any idea what I'm doing wrong - or misunderstand?
14:10 est31 homer77, have you looked into ~/.minetest/worlds/world_name dir, for auth.txt?
14:10 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Replace std::list by std::vector into timerUpdate calls 3c91ad8 http://git.io/NNyF (2015-02-17T15:08:37+01:00)
14:11 est31 and mods and textures are downloaded, or should always be.
14:12 est31 and that you "only" have vanilla minetest might be because you have put the mods in the mods directory without activating them
14:12 est31 either put them in the worldmods directory (inside your  ~/.minetest/worlds/world_name dir) or activate them
14:13 homer77 so can I move the subgame to ~/.minetest/worlds/world_name/games for example?
14:14 * msantana is trying to make his son to understand how the minetest is better than minecraft, especially on the question regarding learning to program
14:14 homer77 Well yes, there is the auth.txt :-)
14:15 est31 that too, but extra worldgame is weird
14:15 est31 because then no other mods are loaded
14:15 est31 only from that dir
14:15 homer77 Oh ok.
14:16 homer77 But actually the server output tells me that it activates the mods successfully when I start it with minetestserver --gameid carbone --info ...
14:17 homer77 Do I have too activate them about this?
14:19 est31 are you actually joining the server, not starting a local instance
14:19 homer77 Yes, I join it by ip 192.168.1.xx and Port 3000
14:20 homer77 15:20:15: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="carbone" listening on port 30000.
14:20 homer77 15:20:15: INFO[ServerThread]: Server creating detached inventory "creative"
14:20 homer77 15:20:18: INFO[ServerThread]: ServerMap: SQLite3 database opened
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14:23 homer77 15:23:07: INFO[ServerThread]: Server: Sending content to homer77
14:23 homer77 15:23:07: ACTION[ServerThread]: homer77 [192.168.1.32] joins game. List of players: homer77
14:23 homer77 15:23:08: INFO[ServerThread]: Server::ProcessData(): Ignoring unknown command 67
14:23 homer77 15:23:10: INFO[ServerThread]: Server: Maximum lag peaked to 0.2 s
14:23 homer77 15:23:21: INFO[EmergeThread0]: initialEmerge: area: (592,-128,-48)(703,-17,63)=112x112x112=1404928 (5MB)
14:23 homer77 was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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14:25 catninja http://www.vk.se/1387842/jattelika-ismangder-pa-liften local news, the ski lift does not work. wonder why :D
14:26 homer77 Sorry for flooding. Here is a snippet of server output http://paste.ubuntu.com/10273941/
14:29 homer77 Also the new commands which come with carbone don't work. e.g. /spawn is answered with "unknown command"
14:32 homer77 But I can close server with /shutdown.
14:32 homer77 So I assume that the connection is correct. And obviously Data is loaded down by client.
14:33 homer77 But Client doesn't seem to make use of it.
14:34 homer77 I have to add that I have joined a public server to test. And it worked. So there doesn't seem to be a general problem with the client :-/
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14:37 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Replace std::list by std::vector into ClientMap::updateDrawList, Map::timerUpdate and ServerMap::save(). fd70f4f http://git.io/NNpG (2015-02-17T15:28:49+01:00)
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14:39 MinetestBot [git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Grab GUIChatConsole::m_font, fixes segfault when changing font_size 81b9c02 http://git.io/NNhq (2015-02-18T00:38:57+10:00)
14:40 homer77 Complete startup log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10274107/
14:41 homer77 Sorry, I mean here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10274131/
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14:59 homer77 Ok. German IRC found out that my server version is outdated. Try to update now.
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15:18 Coihue Hi everyone!! 0/
15:18 marktraceur Hi!!!!!!!!!
15:20 Coihue I spend like three days playing minetest, I remember installing it on 2013 and it was boring
15:20 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/master-server: Add protocol version server parameters fb3b24d http://git.io/NAZw (2015-02-17T16:20:41+01:00)
15:21 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/master-server: Add r to APSchedule name to correct 2d982bc http://git.io/NAZr (2015-02-17T16:20:41+01:00)
15:21 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/master-server: Add node_modules subdir to gitignore 07f9444 http://git.io/NAZo (2015-02-17T16:20:41+01:00)
15:22 marktraceur I dunno what you're talking about, I had plenty of fun with it in 2011 even
15:23 marktraceur 'course I used the lack of features as an excuse to get involved in the programming, but to each their own. :)
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15:25 Coihue Oh, I forgot that everybody on IRC is a programmer :P
15:25 marktraceur Not exactly
15:25 marktraceur For example, there's #opensourcedesign
15:25 marktraceur There are private channels
15:26 marktraceur There are the myriad Wikimedia content-related channels
15:26 marktraceur And that's just on Freenode.
15:26 marktraceur Lots of gaming channels on other networks, other kinds of channels too
15:27 marktraceur There was #shutupandwrite for a while on Freenode but I think it's defunct
15:29 Coihue what was that chan about?
15:29 marktraceur Writing...stuff
15:30 sfan5 stuff?
15:31 Coihue Once I write an egg
15:31 Coihue hihi
15:32 Coihue I used to write in a journal, back in the days
15:32 marktraceur Stuff like stories, poems, books, whatever
15:32 marktraceur One of my friends was involved in running the shutupandwrite community, they had IRC and Reddit and a podcast for a while
15:32 Coihue They let me enter shows for free, drink free..
15:32 marktraceur I guess they got burned out
15:32 Coihue haha
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15:38 ekem be on freenode, be irc server for open sorce software, complain that everyone is a programmer
15:39 Zeno` hmmmm, wake up!
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15:42 Coihue Im a player
15:44 Coihue I found really nice people on some server of minetest, so I think its channel would be the same
15:45 est31 Coihue, there is also a very nice #minetest channel on inchranet
15:45 est31 not that this isnt
15:47 Coihue Thank you, est31
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16:01 Zeno` ok, time for TV and rest
16:01 * Zeno` is kinda afk :P
16:03 est31 kinda lol
16:04 Zeno` I search for "documentary" on youtube and all I get is UFO shit lmao
16:04 Zeno` ohhhh... Nostradumus... that must be good
16:07 sfan5 Zeno`: want a german documentation about snowden?
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18:51 MinetestBot [git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Rewrite movestones, make them nodes instead of entities 1df6e5a http://git.io/NpUk (2015-02-14T13:35:50+01:00)
19:04 MinetestBot [git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix movestones sometimes not starting to move again when they are at the 1ee3b21 http://git.io/Npm9 (2015-02-17T20:02:24+01:00)
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19:28 Guybrush88_ hello
19:29 Wayward_One hi
19:31 Guybrush88_ where i can ask for the minimal requirements of minetest?
19:32 Guybrush88_ i searched on the website but i didn't find any
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19:47 Krock Guybrush88_, there are forum threads about that
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20:08 Calinou Guybrush88_, just try it and see if it works
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20:08 Calinou “system requirements” are a mostly obsolete thing
20:08 Calinou only AAA games really use that term in 2015
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20:13 SylvieLorxu Guybrush88_: It runs with about 30fps on my old X60s, so it should run sanely on almost any PC you can find
20:14 ElectronLibre At least it will start, then how many FPS you will get, that's a very good question.
20:16 Hiradur it doesn't run well on a raspberry pi 1 however :P
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20:17 ElectronLibre Yes but basically aything that needs 3d graphics is slow on a raspberry pi.
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20:19 Hiradur it runs quake 3 at playable FPS, gpu performance is comparable to a geforce 3
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20:19 * ElectronLibre never tried quake, but thanks for the tip.
20:20 Hiradur it's more of a cpu issue I believe but obviously everything on the Pi is a limiting factor
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20:26 Calinou I wonder how well it runs on a Raspberry Pi 2
20:26 Calinou it is perhaps playable
20:26 ElectronLibre Let me try.
20:27 * ElectronLibre has no screen at the moment but promisses he will try >_>
20:27 Hiradur I wonder this as well but I only own a Pi1
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20:31 Hiradur ElectronLibre: It's possible to redirect OpenGL calls to another computer who takes care of the rendering by the way :P
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20:33 ElectronLibre I know, but I don't want to try right know, I don't want to overload my bandwidth and I have no time to manipulate X/OpenGL's parameters.
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20:34 Guybrush88_ thanks to everyone for your answers
20:34 Hiradur yeah, I didn't expect you to do it
20:35 ElectronLibre You just reminded me that it's possible ;).
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22:16 Wuzzy Where are the Minetest data stored under Windows systems?
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22:36 VanessaE Wuzzy: all of it is kept in the minetest folder that came out of the zip you downloaded.
22:38 Wuzzy So, in instance...
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22:38 Wuzzy if I extracted in C:\WHATEVER\LOL\ROFL\MINETEST
22:38 Wuzzy then worlds folder is in C:\WHATEVER\LOL\ROFL\MINETEST\worlds, right?
22:39 VanessaE yep
22:39 Wuzzy thx
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