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grendal_prime |
so basically he has found half a dozen versions of this in google play. One of wich seems to be exactly what he wants. |
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Guest67923 |
hi I need some help finding a certain file in minetest/src |
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Guest67923 |
Where would I find the debug menu exposed by pressing f5 ingame? |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB871SVYMhI |
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Zeno` |
Guest67923, it's in game.cpp |
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benoliver999 |
I'm trying to run a server on Debian. Seems to be fine but I get stuck at 'item definitions' when trying to get on it on my arch machine |
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benoliver999 |
I pulled the minetest server package from the debian repos |
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sfan5 |
which version? |
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benoliver999 |
7.7 |
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benoliver999 |
Could it be a version problem? |
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sfan5 |
there is no minetest version 7.7 |
11:31 |
benoliver999 |
ahem |
11:31 |
benoliver999 |
That was my debian version sorry |
11:31 |
benoliver999 |
How do I find out which minetest version they have? |
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sfan5 |
apt-cache show minetest |
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benoliver999 |
Ah |
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benoliver999 |
That's the issue Ithink |
11:32 |
benoliver999 |
0.3 |
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benoliver999 |
I was lloking at the sid repo but I'm on wheezy |
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benoliver999 |
Is there a place I can get the more up to date version? I was looking earlier but couldn't find just the server package |
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sfan5 |
benoliver999: you can compile it from source https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837 |
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benoliver999 |
Cheers |
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redstonecraftpl |
Hi everyone |
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benoliver999 |
.exit |
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benoliver999 |
Ha sorry |
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let's see if this new graphics driver is better than the one be4 |
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Zeno` |
hmmmm, if you can give me ONE example where -Wtype-limits was flagging something as a warning incorrectly then I guess I'd be happier with 565959db |
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Zeno` |
oops |
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jin_xi |
so i am still wondering about this: if you do reference count textures, how do you decide which ones to keep and which ones to delete? do you keep track of usage counts/times to determine unneeded ones? |
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jin_xi |
as in this texture has not been used in ... time/steps so lets kill it? |
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Krock |
jin_xi, I don't get your question. Do you want to unload textures? |
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jin_xi |
yes |
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Krock |
I'm not sure if that makes sense. unloading meshes would be better |
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jin_xi |
its for temporary textures, which are needed for interactive stuff like computer displays or paintings and changing signs |
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exio4 |
would you buy http://www.corsair.com/en/hydro-series-h60-cpu-cooler + artic silver or 120GB SSD |
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exio4 |
kingston 120GB SSD * |
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Zeno` |
I have both |
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Krock |
I would buy a 64 KB Harddisk from 1980 |
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Zeno` |
I'd probably got the SSD |
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Zeno` |
s/got/go |
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exio4 |
you have both? |
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Zeno` |
yep |
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exio4 |
I think I'll buy a ticket to your city instead |
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Zeno` |
what is your CPU and is it overclocked? |
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exio4 |
FX 6100, and yes, it is |
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exio4 |
4ghz right now, I had it at 4.2GHz in winter |
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Zeno` |
normal operating temps are..? |
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exio4 |
but right now, well, there are +35C outside |
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exio4 |
Zeno`, 30-35C in idle, 58-60C in full load |
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Zeno` |
I'd seriously get the SSD |
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Zeno` |
60C full load is not "hot" |
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exio4 |
it is :P |
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exio4 |
my CPU shutdowns at 65C iirc |
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sfan5 |
lol |
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exio4 |
well, not the cpu |
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Zeno` |
ok, my i7-4770k (not overclocked) with the h60 cooler is 30-35 idle |
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sfan5 |
my cpu can get as got as 90C when full load |
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exio4 |
you have intel CPUs |
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Zeno` |
maybe 45 under load |
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exio4 |
the last gens are known to get insanely hot |
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Zeno` |
thermal threshold is 100C |
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exio4 |
really Zeno`? |
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Zeno` |
yes |
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exio4 |
sounds pretty cool, 45C under load for an i7 is <40C for me :D |
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* Zeno` |
checks current temps |
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exio4 |
http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=772&f1=&f2=&f3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=&f10=&f11=&f12= |
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exio4 |
was wrong, 70C, not 60C |
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exio4 |
er, 65C |
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Zeno` |
lol, current temp is about 58C |
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Zeno` |
(cpu load 100$ for the last 5 hours or more) |
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Krock |
exio4, no wonder. CPUs will get hotter and hotter if there's no better material to fabricate those. |
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Krock |
electrons eaily jump from one conductor to another |
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exio4 |
Krock, the thing is that we want smaller cpus, that perform better, and what not |
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Zeno` |
SSD is the better upgrade IMO |
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exio4 |
are they worth it? they don't seem like to tbh |
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Zeno` |
I used to think the same |
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Zeno` |
until I got oen |
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Zeno` |
one* |
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exio4 |
k, I decided then, will order the H60 in a week, then I'll order the SSD in a month |
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exio4 |
are the guys from ISIS still accepting kidneys as payments for credits? |
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Jordach |
Zeno`, ~35C here |
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exio4 |
H60 too? |
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Jordach |
exio4, stock cooling |
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exio4 |
what are your room temps? |
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Jordach |
8C |
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Zeno` |
get the SSD first! (seriously) |
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jin_xi |
or ac |
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exio4 |
Jordach, 8C room temp doesn't compare well with 35C room temp, ya know :D |
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Jordach |
exio4, external temparature is 3C |
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Jordach |
ala outside |
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exio4 |
outside we've got like 35C too! |
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exio4 |
\o/ |
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exio4 |
we'll get a nice rain in a few hours, if everything goes well.. |
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Jordach |
>GPU Temparature 18C |
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Jordach |
u fookin wat m8 |
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exio4 |
mine's at 46C |
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exio4 |
idle load, using nouveau |
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Jordach |
mine's idle, using 344.75 Driver |
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exio4 |
I had 200MHz more in winter, and temps were lower than the ones I have right now |
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exio4 |
(what I get by using stock cooling ^) |
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Jordach |
exio4, if the temps outside were negative (~-5c) i'd be under 10C |
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exio4 |
tech is expensive ;_; |
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exio4 |
I already wasted over 10k ARS in my computer, and I don't have anything high-end grr |
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Zeno` |
what do outside temps have to do with anything? |
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jin_xi |
more butterflies flipping your bits when temps rise |
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Zeno` |
I think ambient (in the room where the computer is) are relevant, but outside temps? |
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Zeno` |
Happy Birthday, hmmmm |
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exio4 |
Zeno`, yeah, ambient/room temps are the ones that matter :P |
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shadowzone |
happy day-i-was-born-day, hmmmm |
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hmmmm |
my birthday is in august |
14:34 |
shadowzone |
<Zeno`> Happy Birthday, hmmmm |
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shadowzone |
thanks for throwing meh off, Zeno`. |
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shadowzone |
but happy very belated birthday. |
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uhoh |
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Calinou |
Jordach, Borderlands 4: https://lut.im/fjgDxhIq/k83xqcru |
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Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/ovShd6G.png mmm dat cobbled |
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Calinou |
looks blurry |
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Jordach |
<- can't draw cobble but can draw wood planks |
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* Jordach |
finds Esteban's cobble texture |
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Jordach |
here's Esteban's texture by comparison https://i.imgur.com/oq8tokl.png |
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hmmmm |
i don't have access to http://minetest.net |
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hmmmm |
a login |
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shadowzone |
what for? |
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shadowzone |
oh.. |
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Jordach |
hmmmm, what do you need changing |
15:32 |
hmmmm |
the links on the download page |
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shadowzone |
releasing 0.4.11 I think |
15:32 |
Jordach |
to 0.4.11, no? |
15:32 |
hmmmm |
yes |
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Jordach |
links please |
15:34 |
Jordach |
oh, there aren't any builds |
15:36 |
hmmmm |
http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.10_.E2.86.92_0.4.11 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/download/0.4.11/minetest-0.4.11-win32-mingw.zip https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/download/0.4.11/minetest-0.4.11-win64-mingw.zip |
15:36 |
hmmmm |
there's no android build or MSVC builds (yet) |
15:36 |
hmmmm |
the key people are missing in action |
15:36 |
hmmmm |
i'm going to start doing all the builds myself... |
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hmmmm |
we'll update the release on github as we get those versions |
15:37 |
hmmmm |
i think we can use Krock's 32 bit MSVC build - need to talk to him |
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Krock |
.. it doesn't have leveldb, thus, it's incomplete |
15:38 |
hmmmm |
:/ |
15:39 |
shadowzone |
I got the dirty build |
15:40 |
Krock |
but you can point on that release if you want - it contains an ugly "-dev_" in the title and doesn't contain MTG... :/ |
15:40 |
hmmmm |
ehh =/ |
15:40 |
hmmmm |
what's MTG? |
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shadowzone |
Minetest_Game, I think. |
15:41 |
Krock |
^ |
15:41 |
hmmmm |
oh |
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hmmmm |
sorta thought you meant magic the gathering or something |
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Jordach |
removed the mentions of MSVC until we get those builds |
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hmmmm |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10835 |
15:50 |
shadowzone |
I already pulled that |
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15:52 |
shadowzone |
WHOOHOO! |
15:52 |
shadowzone |
- Don't expect it to work as well as a finished game will. |
15:52 |
shadowzone |
- Please report any bugs. When doing that, debug.txt is useful. |
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Johnsen2 |
Shadowzone, you tricker |
16:01 |
Johnsen2 |
You tricked me! |
16:01 |
shadowzone |
Johnsen2: wrong channel |
16:01 |
shadowzone |
? |
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* Jordach |
purrs at Calinou |
16:03 |
MinetestBot |
[git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Uncomment version patch field 3ea5ed4 http://git.io/HraPGQ (2014-12-26T11:02:26-05:00) |
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Krock |
I ninja'd the official minetest release... released it 1 day too early :3 |
16:12 |
Krock |
kinda funny |
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Krock |
Oh well.. Fess did it too |
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exio4 |
http://i.imgur.com/N8uTzsd.png a nice plot |
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exio4 |
magenta is when my network fkd up, red is max latency, green is low latency, three hours period |
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Krock |
long uptime. |
16:16 |
exio4 |
uh, totally |
16:16 |
exio4 |
what uptime |
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sfan5 |
exio4: r u having fun with ur network? |
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exio4 |
much fun me having |
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* kaeza |
hugs exio4 |
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* kaeza |
meows at sfan5 |
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* exio4 |
hugs kaeza back |
16:19 |
* [ElectronLibre] |
likes the way his 0.4.11 client shows Minetest 0.4.10-**-dirty in the top right corner. |
16:20 |
* Krock |
tells [ElectronLibre] to delete version.obj in the compiling folder |
16:20 |
[ElectronLibre] |
I didn't compile it, I downloaded it. |
16:20 |
Krock |
ah |
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[ElectronLibre] |
MinGW binaries are released, there is a problem with MSVC apparently :/ |
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Krock |
still possible to use those from the Builds forum - there's just no official release - yet |
16:23 |
[ElectronLibre] |
Yes, but to be honest, I compiled my own minetest 5 hours ago, and it works, so I'm fine. (and when MSVC will agree to work fine I will download the official release) |
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someguy_irc |
foxy. |
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someguy_irc |
lel |
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Johnsen2 |
Someguy |
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Johnsen2 |
Hey someguy i got an question |
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kaeza |
"don't ask to ask, just ask" |
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VanessaE |
ElectronLibre: where did you download that 0.4.11 build from? |
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jin_xi |
ugh. chillax |
16:31 |
ElectronLibre |
Here VanessaE => minetest.net/download :/ |
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shadowzone |
I just git pulled and compiled |
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Johnsen2 |
~Shadowzone. |
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Johnsen2 |
Shadowzone. you don't even know a admins job :/ |
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Johnsen2 |
kaeza, XD |
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Johnsen2 |
Brb |
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* Calinou |
reached 500 games on Lichess |
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jin_xi |
whats your win ratio? |
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Calinou |
296 won (of 506): 58,5 % |
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Calinou |
191 losses, 19 draws |
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jin_xi |
nice |
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exio4 |
what |
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Calinou |
lut.im can actually do hotlinking :o |
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harrison |
Salvinorin A decreases mortality and improves neurological outcome in a neonatal mouse hypoxia model |
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exio4 |
uh what |
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Wayward_One |
o.o |
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harrison |
http://itranspopmed.org/?p=443 is what |
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harrison |
tl;dr =n ,09SALVIA SAVES BABY MICE |
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redstonecraftpl |
hi |
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* Calinou |
increased his view range to 120 |
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* sfan5 |
does not care |
18:31 |
Calinou |
this is possible thanks to zeno :p |
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* mitrom |
cares a lot |
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exio4 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMK0prafzw0 |
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Jordach |
time to update |
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Jordach |
pff |
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Jordach |
sfan5, new build pls |
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* Jordach |
rebuilds the server |
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* Krock |
gives Jordach a screwdriver |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: the official 64bit build is by me |
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AgentFire |
What is the minetest app for android? |
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Calinou |
AgentFire, it is on minetest.net/download |
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acerspyro |
export CXXFLAGS=-O0 |
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acerspyro |
Is that how you disable optimization? |
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VanessaE |
the minetest apk is not up-to-date yet |
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VanessaE |
it's still 0.4.10 |
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acerspyro |
VanessaE, o/ |
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acerspyro |
I got crashes. |
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VanessaE |
sorry to hear |
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Jordach |
^_^ |
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VanessaE |
I presume you've updated to 0.4.11 already? |
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acerspyro |
yes |
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acerspyro |
I got the .zip from the repo |
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acerspyro |
And I've been trying to debug it |
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VanessaE |
hrm |
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acerspyro |
But now, my grandfather wants me to help him outside. |
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AgentFire |
Calinou: Does the link take me to the google play store? |
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Calinou |
no |
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Calinou |
it is just an .aplk |
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Calinou |
.apk* |
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AgentFire |
Calinou: So the Google Play store does not have Minetest? |
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exio4 |
\o/ |
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Calinou |
not the official on |
19:33 |
Calinou |
+e |
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Calinou |
it costs money and time to put it there |
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AgentFire |
Alright, I suppose that makes sense. But downloading the APK won't damage my tablet, right? |
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Calinou |
no |
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Calinou |
you need to enable Unknown sources |
19:36 |
Calinou |
else the APK will not install :P |
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* ElectronLibre |
has just realized that the debug line showed by pressing F5 now shows the itemstring of the node you're pointing at, and the texture image of the face you're poiting *-* |
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exio4 |
hi ElectronLibre |
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ElectronLibre |
Hello exio4. |
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ElectronLibre |
Little problem: It shows the TOP texture(s) of the node you're poiting at. I should see if I can modify that.. |
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Megaf |
Hi |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: https://sfan5.pf-control.de/minetest-builds/minetest_64/minetest-0.4.11-win64.7z |
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redstonecraftpl |
Any new version? |
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redstonecraftpl |
ok, i see |
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redstonecraftpl |
VanessaE server still support 0.4.11? |
21:47 |
VanessaE |
of course |
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VanessaE |
0.4.11 is the newest version |
21:47 |
VanessaE |
just released today so yeah |
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redstonecraftpl |
bye |
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Tg1 |
Does anyone know when the New Stable version will be in the Ubuntu Software Center? |
21:59 |
sfan5 |
that usually takes some time |
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Tg1 |
ah okey |
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hmmmm |
well |
22:38 |
hmmmm |
it was released on the 24th, just announced today |
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acerspyro |
I can't get rid of those <optimized out> thingies in the debug trace |
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acerspyro |
I know I need to use -O0, but I'm somehow doing it wrong. |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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acerspyro |
sfan5, can you help? I'm desperate. |
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acerspyro |
ARGH! |
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acerspyro |
Should I go in #minetest-dev to debug? |
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mitrom |
No |
23:42 |
Jordach |
you want a +q? that's how you get them |
23:42 |
acerspyro |
+q? |
23:42 |
Jordach |
quieting |
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n4x |
quiet |
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acerspyro |
ah |
23:42 |
n4x |
basically force you to shut up said in a nice way |
23:43 |
acerspyro |
So, um, wat do? |
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Jordach |
live with it (most developers in there have the Arch Linux way of living, RTFM or GTFO) |
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acerspyro |
Jordach, oh, I didn't find the wiki section about debugging |
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acerspyro |
Or I have, and it wasn't helping. |
23:45 |
acerspyro |
link? |
23:47 |
Jordach |
there isn't |
23:47 |
Jordach |
the lazy devs over in -dev can't usually bother by creating useful information |
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Jordach |
wow the developer of aseprite is a backstabbin little twat |
23:57 |
shadowzone |
How? |
23:58 |
Jordach |
$10 for GPL software without providing the software for free |
23:59 |
Jordach |
older versions did not have this restriction |
23:59 |
shadowzone |
weird |