Time Nick Message 00:53 grendal_prime ya 00:53 grendal_prime so basically he has found half a dozen versions of this in google play. One of wich seems to be exactly what he wants. 00:56 grendal_prime and he is pretty gitty 02:30 Guest67923 hi I need some help finding a certain file in minetest/src 02:30 Guest67923 Where would I find the debug menu exposed by pressing f5 ingame? 03:10 zat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB871SVYMhI 03:26 Zeno` Guest67923, it's in game.cpp 03:49 Guest67923 Thanks so much Zeno`! 11:28 benoliver999 I'm trying to run a server on Debian. Seems to be fine but I get stuck at 'item definitions' when trying to get on it on my arch machine 11:29 benoliver999 I pulled the minetest server package from the debian repos 11:29 sfan5 which version? 11:30 benoliver999 7.7 11:30 benoliver999 Could it be a version problem? 11:31 sfan5 there is no minetest version 7.7 11:31 benoliver999 ahem 11:31 benoliver999 That was my debian version sorry 11:31 benoliver999 How do I find out which minetest version they have? 11:32 sfan5 apt-cache show minetest 11:32 benoliver999 Ah 11:32 benoliver999 That's the issue Ithink 11:32 benoliver999 0.3 11:33 benoliver999 I was lloking at the sid repo but I'm on wheezy 11:33 benoliver999 Is there a place I can get the more up to date version? I was looking earlier but couldn't find just the server package 11:34 sfan5 benoliver999: you can compile it from source https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837 11:34 benoliver999 Cheers 11:44 redstonecraftpl Hi everyone 11:48 benoliver999 .exit 11:48 benoliver999 Ha sorry 12:02 Krock let's see if this new graphics driver is better than the one be4 12:57 Zeno` hmmmm, if you can give me ONE example where -Wtype-limits was flagging something as a warning incorrectly then I guess I'd be happier with 565959db 12:58 Zeno` oops 13:04 jin_xi so i am still wondering about this: if you do reference count textures, how do you decide which ones to keep and which ones to delete? do you keep track of usage counts/times to determine unneeded ones? 13:05 jin_xi as in this texture has not been used in ... time/steps so lets kill it? 13:16 Krock jin_xi, I don't get your question. Do you want to unload textures? 13:16 jin_xi yes 13:18 Krock I'm not sure if that makes sense. unloading meshes would be better 13:18 jin_xi its for temporary textures, which are needed for interactive stuff like computer displays or paintings and changing signs 13:19 exio4 would you buy http://www.corsair.com/en/hydro-series-h60-cpu-cooler + artic silver or 120GB SSD 13:19 exio4 kingston 120GB SSD * 13:19 Zeno` I have both 13:19 Krock I would buy a 64 KB Harddisk from 1980 13:19 Zeno` I'd probably got the SSD 13:20 Zeno` s/got/go 13:20 exio4 you have both? 13:20 Zeno` yep 13:20 exio4 I think I'll buy a ticket to your city instead 13:20 Zeno` what is your CPU and is it overclocked? 13:21 exio4 FX 6100, and yes, it is 13:21 exio4 4ghz right now, I had it at 4.2GHz in winter 13:21 Zeno` normal operating temps are..? 13:21 exio4 but right now, well, there are +35C outside 13:21 exio4 Zeno`, 30-35C in idle, 58-60C in full load 13:21 Zeno` I'd seriously get the SSD 13:22 Zeno` 60C full load is not "hot" 13:22 exio4 it is :P 13:22 exio4 my CPU shutdowns at 65C iirc 13:23 sfan5 lol 13:23 exio4 well, not the cpu 13:23 Zeno` ok, my i7-4770k (not overclocked) with the h60 cooler is 30-35 idle 13:23 sfan5 my cpu can get as got as 90C when full load 13:23 exio4 you have intel CPUs 13:23 Zeno` maybe 45 under load 13:23 exio4 the last gens are known to get insanely hot 13:23 Zeno` thermal threshold is 100C 13:24 exio4 really Zeno`? 13:24 Zeno` yes 13:24 exio4 sounds pretty cool, 45C under load for an i7 is <40C for me :D 13:25 * Zeno` checks current temps 13:25 exio4 http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=772&f1=&f2=&f3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=&f10=&f11=&f12= 13:25 exio4 was wrong, 70C, not 60C 13:25 exio4 er, 65C 13:25 Zeno` lol, current temp is about 58C 13:26 Zeno` (cpu load 100$ for the last 5 hours or more) 13:26 Krock exio4, no wonder. CPUs will get hotter and hotter if there's no better material to fabricate those. 13:26 Krock electrons eaily jump from one conductor to another 13:26 exio4 Krock, the thing is that we want smaller cpus, that perform better, and what not 13:27 Zeno` SSD is the better upgrade IMO 13:27 exio4 are they worth it? they don't seem like to tbh 13:27 Zeno` I used to think the same 13:27 Zeno` until I got oen 13:27 Zeno` one* 13:28 exio4 k, I decided then, will order the H60 in a week, then I'll order the SSD in a month 13:28 exio4 are the guys from ISIS still accepting kidneys as payments for credits? 13:31 Jordach Zeno`, ~35C here 13:31 exio4 H60 too? 13:31 Jordach exio4, stock cooling 13:32 exio4 what are your room temps? 13:32 Jordach 8C 13:32 Zeno` get the SSD first! (seriously) 13:32 jin_xi or ac 13:32 exio4 Jordach, 8C room temp doesn't compare well with 35C room temp, ya know :D 13:32 Jordach exio4, external temparature is 3C 13:33 Jordach ala outside 13:33 exio4 outside we've got like 35C too! 13:33 exio4 \o/ 13:34 exio4 we'll get a nice rain in a few hours, if everything goes well.. 13:34 Jordach >GPU Temparature 18C 13:34 Jordach u fookin wat m8 13:34 exio4 mine's at 46C 13:34 exio4 idle load, using nouveau 13:35 Jordach mine's idle, using 344.75 Driver 13:36 exio4 I had 200MHz more in winter, and temps were lower than the ones I have right now 13:36 exio4 (what I get by using stock cooling ^) 13:38 Jordach exio4, if the temps outside were negative (~-5c) i'd be under 10C 13:41 exio4 tech is expensive ;_; 13:41 exio4 I already wasted over 10k ARS in my computer, and I don't have anything high-end grr 14:30 Zeno` what do outside temps have to do with anything? 14:30 jin_xi more butterflies flipping your bits when temps rise 14:31 Zeno` I think ambient (in the room where the computer is) are relevant, but outside temps? 14:32 Zeno` Happy Birthday, hmmmm 14:32 exio4 Zeno`, yeah, ambient/room temps are the ones that matter :P 14:34 shadowzone happy day-i-was-born-day, hmmmm 14:34 hmmmm my birthday is in august 14:34 shadowzone Happy Birthday, hmmmm 14:35 shadowzone thanks for throwing meh off, Zeno`. 14:35 shadowzone but happy very belated birthday. 15:11 Jordach uhoh 15:15 Calinou Jordach, Borderlands 4: https://lut.im/fjgDxhIq/k83xqcru 15:15 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/ovShd6G.png mmm dat cobbled 15:16 Calinou looks blurry 15:17 Jordach <- can't draw cobble but can draw wood planks 15:20 * Jordach finds Esteban's cobble texture 15:26 Jordach here's Esteban's texture by comparison https://i.imgur.com/oq8tokl.png 15:29 hmmmm i don't have access to http://minetest.net 15:30 hmmmm a login 15:30 shadowzone what for? 15:30 shadowzone oh.. 15:32 Jordach hmmmm, what do you need changing 15:32 hmmmm the links on the download page 15:32 shadowzone releasing 0.4.11 I think 15:32 Jordach to 0.4.11, no? 15:32 hmmmm yes 15:33 Jordach links please 15:34 Jordach oh, there aren't any builds 15:36 hmmmm http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.10_.E2.86.92_0.4.11 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/download/0.4.11/minetest-0.4.11-win32-mingw.zip https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/download/0.4.11/minetest-0.4.11-win64-mingw.zip 15:36 hmmmm there's no android build or MSVC builds (yet) 15:36 hmmmm the key people are missing in action 15:36 hmmmm i'm going to start doing all the builds myself... 15:37 hmmmm we'll update the release on github as we get those versions 15:37 hmmmm i think we can use Krock's 32 bit MSVC build - need to talk to him 15:37 Krock .. it doesn't have leveldb, thus, it's incomplete 15:38 hmmmm :/ 15:39 shadowzone I got the dirty build 15:40 Krock but you can point on that release if you want - it contains an ugly "-dev_" in the title and doesn't contain MTG... :/ 15:40 hmmmm ehh =/ 15:40 hmmmm what's MTG? 15:41 shadowzone Minetest_Game, I think. 15:41 Krock ^ 15:41 hmmmm oh 15:41 hmmmm sorta thought you meant magic the gathering or something 15:42 Jordach removed the mentions of MSVC until we get those builds 15:49 hmmmm https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10835 15:50 shadowzone I already pulled that 15:52 shadowzone WHOOHOO! 15:52 shadowzone - Don't expect it to work as well as a finished game will. 15:52 shadowzone - Please report any bugs. When doing that, debug.txt is useful. 16:00 Johnsen2 Shadowzone, you tricker 16:01 Johnsen2 You tricked me! 16:01 shadowzone Johnsen2: wrong channel 16:01 shadowzone ? 16:01 * Jordach purrs at Calinou 16:03 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Uncomment version patch field 133ea5ed4 http://git.io/HraPGQ (152014-12-26T11:02:26-05:00) 16:12 Krock I ninja'd the official minetest release... released it 1 day too early :3 16:12 Krock kinda funny 16:13 Krock Oh well.. Fess did it too 16:13 exio4 http://i.imgur.com/N8uTzsd.png a nice plot 16:14 exio4 magenta is when my network fkd up, red is max latency, green is low latency, three hours period 16:14 Krock long uptime. 16:16 exio4 uh, totally 16:16 exio4 what uptime 16:16 sfan5 exio4: r u having fun with ur network? 16:17 exio4 much fun me having 16:18 * kaeza hugs exio4 16:18 * kaeza meows at sfan5 16:18 * exio4 hugs kaeza back 16:19 * [ElectronLibre] likes the way his 0.4.11 client shows Minetest 0.4.10-**-dirty in the top right corner. 16:20 * Krock tells [ElectronLibre] to delete version.obj in the compiling folder 16:20 [ElectronLibre] I didn't compile it, I downloaded it. 16:20 Krock ah 16:21 [ElectronLibre] MinGW binaries are released, there is a problem with MSVC apparently :/ 16:22 Krock still possible to use those from the Builds forum - there's just no official release - yet 16:23 [ElectronLibre] Yes, but to be honest, I compiled my own minetest 5 hours ago, and it works, so I'm fine. (and when MSVC will agree to work fine I will download the official release) 16:23 someguy_irc foxy. 16:23 someguy_irc lel 16:28 Johnsen2 Someguy 16:28 Johnsen2 Hey someguy i got an question 16:29 kaeza "don't ask to ask, just ask" 16:30 VanessaE ElectronLibre: where did you download that 0.4.11 build from? 16:30 jin_xi ugh. chillax 16:31 ElectronLibre Here VanessaE => minetest.net/download :/ 16:34 shadowzone I just git pulled and compiled 16:36 Johnsen2 ~Shadowzone. 16:36 Johnsen2 Shadowzone. you don't even know a admins job :/ 16:36 Johnsen2 kaeza, XD 16:36 Johnsen2 Brb 17:07 * Calinou reached 500 games on Lichess 17:07 jin_xi whats your win ratio? 17:13 Calinou 296 won (of 506): 58,5 % 17:13 Calinou 191 losses, 19 draws 17:13 jin_xi nice 17:14 exio4 what 17:34 Calinou lut.im can actually do hotlinking :o 17:47 harrison Salvinorin A decreases mortality and improves neurological outcome in a neonatal mouse hypoxia model 17:48 exio4 uh what 17:53 Wayward_One o.o 17:54 harrison http://itranspopmed.org/?p=443 is what 17:55 harrison tl;dr =n 01,09SALVIA SAVES BABY MICE 18:27 redstonecraftpl hi 18:30 * Calinou increased his view range to 120 18:31 * sfan5 does not care 18:31 Calinou this is possible thanks to zeno :p 18:31 * mitrom cares a lot 18:33 exio4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMK0prafzw0 18:42 Jordach time to update 18:42 Jordach pff 18:42 Jordach sfan5, new build pls 18:46 * Jordach rebuilds the server 19:02 * Krock gives Jordach a screwdriver 19:10 sfan5 Jordach: the official 64bit build is by me 19:13 AgentFire What is the minetest app for android? 19:17 Calinou AgentFire, it is on minetest.net/download 19:18 acerspyro export CXXFLAGS=-O0 19:18 acerspyro Is that how you disable optimization? 19:19 VanessaE the minetest apk is not up-to-date yet 19:19 VanessaE it's still 0.4.10 19:20 acerspyro VanessaE, o/ 19:20 acerspyro I got crashes. 19:21 VanessaE sorry to hear 19:21 Jordach ^_^ 19:21 VanessaE I presume you've updated to 0.4.11 already? 19:21 acerspyro yes 19:21 acerspyro I got the .zip from the repo 19:21 acerspyro And I've been trying to debug it 19:22 VanessaE hrm 19:22 acerspyro But now, my grandfather wants me to help him outside. 19:31 AgentFire Calinou: Does the link take me to the google play store? 19:31 Calinou no 19:31 Calinou it is just an .aplk 19:31 Calinou .apk* 19:33 AgentFire Calinou: So the Google Play store does not have Minetest? 19:33 exio4 \o/ 19:33 Calinou not the official on 19:33 Calinou +e 19:33 Calinou it costs money and time to put it there 19:34 AgentFire Alright, I suppose that makes sense. But downloading the APK won't damage my tablet, right? 19:35 Calinou no 19:35 Calinou you need to enable Unknown sources 19:36 Calinou else the APK will not install :P 20:22 * ElectronLibre has just realized that the debug line showed by pressing F5 now shows the itemstring of the node you're pointing at, and the texture image of the face you're poiting *-* 20:23 exio4 hi ElectronLibre 20:24 ElectronLibre Hello exio4. 20:25 ElectronLibre Little problem: It shows the TOP texture(s) of the node you're poiting at. I should see if I can modify that.. 21:00 Megaf Hi 21:26 sfan5 Jordach: https://sfan5.pf-control.de/minetest-builds/minetest_64/minetest-0.4.11-win64.7z 21:42 redstonecraftpl Any new version? 21:42 redstonecraftpl ok, i see 21:43 redstonecraftpl VanessaE server still support 0.4.11? 21:47 VanessaE of course 21:47 VanessaE 0.4.11 is the newest version 21:47 VanessaE just released today so yeah 21:58 redstonecraftpl bye 21:58 Tg1 Does anyone know when the New Stable version will be in the Ubuntu Software Center? 21:59 sfan5 that usually takes some time 22:03 Tg1 ah okey 22:38 hmmmm well 22:38 hmmmm it was released on the 24th, just announced today 23:04 acerspyro I can't get rid of those thingies in the debug trace 23:08 acerspyro I know I need to use -O0, but I'm somehow doing it wrong. 23:11 luizrpgluiz hi 23:27 acerspyro sfan5, can you help? I'm desperate. 23:38 acerspyro ARGH! 23:40 acerspyro Should I go in #minetest-dev to debug? 23:41 mitrom No 23:42 Jordach you want a +q? that's how you get them 23:42 acerspyro +q? 23:42 Jordach quieting 23:42 n4x quiet 23:42 acerspyro ah 23:42 n4x basically force you to shut up said in a nice way 23:43 acerspyro So, um, wat do? 23:44 Jordach live with it (most developers in there have the Arch Linux way of living, RTFM or GTFO) 23:45 acerspyro Jordach, oh, I didn't find the wiki section about debugging 23:45 acerspyro Or I have, and it wasn't helping. 23:45 acerspyro link? 23:47 Jordach there isn't 23:47 Jordach the lazy devs over in -dev can't usually bother by creating useful information 23:56 Jordach wow the developer of aseprite is a backstabbin little twat 23:57 shadowzone How? 23:58 Jordach $10 for GPL software without providing the software for free 23:59 Jordach older versions did not have this restriction 23:59 shadowzone weird