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thefamilygrog66 |
What's the deal with all the illegitimate minetest clones for android? |
01:14 |
FreeFull |
No idea |
01:14 |
FreeFull |
Alternative to minecraft pocket edition? |
01:14 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Sure, but anyone can download the "official" minetest android app for free. |
01:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
For example, a player on my server is using an app called Exploration. It's been downloaded 10000 times from google play, at $3.99 a download. |
01:17 |
thefamilygrog66 |
$40000 for putting a release of minetest on google play is pretty f**kin' shady, man. |
01:22 |
FreeFull |
Oh, yeah, that's bad |
01:22 |
FreeFull |
You could force them to release the source code |
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troller |
what? |
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troller |
Exploration lite - not minetest |
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thefamilygrog66 |
not lite, full version |
01:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
and it is indeed minetest |
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troller |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.explorationbase.Exploration this ? |
01:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Yes, I believe that's the one. |
01:33 |
troller |
its not mt |
01:33 |
troller |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=open.org.minetest.hungry - this - is |
01:34 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Ah yes, you're correct. I love the first review: "This game is so stuped" |
01:35 |
troller |
lol they use my old mandelbox world in one of games 8) |
01:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
nice |
01:35 |
troller |
https://lh4.ggpht.com/QEwcQU5o1F56OjfAY6lxWKf8VX_Uj86xRrkCNa_u_E5VXNUYNe20VpWd-AjRyOxk7Mbh=h900-rw |
01:35 |
troller |
and this screenshot from it |
01:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I'm assuming it's apps like these that assign users the generic "Guest3209" type names? |
01:36 |
troller |
its my feature too ;) |
01:36 |
troller |
it was in some versions of mt, but then was partailly removed |
01:36 |
thefamilygrog66 |
the Guest thing? |
01:37 |
troller |
yep |
01:37 |
troller |
hate me! |
01:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Ah, as a server owner, I'm always wary of players who log on with Guest names... haha |
01:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
May as well sign in as "Griefer1234" |
01:38 |
Zeno` |
It's got good reviews |
01:38 |
troller |
it was autofilled when player leave empty "name" |
01:38 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Grr |
01:40 |
troller |
fuuck looot of ads |
01:41 |
troller |
video ads 8( |
01:41 |
thefamilygrog66 |
gotta make more money |
01:41 |
nejni-marji |
if !$name; then name = Robert\' rm -rf / |
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Fritigern |
So...... I edited the no_guests mod to respond to guest accounts with "INVALID CLIENT VERSION. Visit http://minetest.net and update your client!!!" |
02:03 |
Fritigern |
Now let's see how many android users are going to actually get the official android client. |
02:04 |
nejni-marji |
Why, is there an unofficial one? |
02:04 |
Fritigern |
I think you know exactly what i mean |
02:09 |
nejni-marji |
Wait... I think I do... |
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slavic |
hi |
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FreeFull |
How do evil pickaxes compare to diamond? |
03:07 |
FreeFull |
It takes quite a lot of gold to make one |
03:07 |
Fritigern |
Ah, but Evil picks are super fast! |
03:07 |
FreeFull |
28 gold ingots |
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FreeFull |
So, worth it then? |
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exio4 |
28 gold ingots makes anything not worth it |
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exio4 |
oh look, it is a Zeno` |
03:08 |
FreeFull |
At least it doesn't use rainbow blocks |
03:08 |
exio4 |
lol |
03:08 |
Zeno` |
look, look, a zeno! |
03:08 |
exio4 |
how is it going wild minetester! |
03:08 |
FreeFull |
I never even found a single rainbow block in the wild. Ever. |
03:08 |
Zeno` |
I've found two |
03:09 |
Zeno` |
ghastly things |
03:09 |
FreeFull |
I think I'll go hunt for gold |
03:09 |
exio4 |
it is sad that I don't really play much :( |
03:09 |
FreeFull |
I think someone else found a rainbow block once, and I got to see it |
03:09 |
FreeFull |
I used to play more too |
03:09 |
Zeno` |
I protected on in the public mine on onez' server |
03:09 |
Zeno` |
one* |
03:09 |
FreeFull |
I really like a place I build locally out of sandstone |
03:09 |
FreeFull |
Although I have trouble with thinking how to use rooms |
03:10 |
FreeFull |
I think I'll make one into a dual kitchen/bar |
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FreeFull |
It's a watershed world |
03:10 |
FreeFull |
With homedecor mod |
03:10 |
FreeFull |
And some others |
03:20 |
OldCoder |
http://oldcoder.org/141127_ores.png |
03:20 |
OldCoder |
^ What is wrong with my ores? |
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OldCoder |
See screenshot |
03:20 |
FreeFull |
I hope I can find some gold.. It's pretty difficult to find |
03:21 |
FreeFull |
OldCoder: That's a long-standing bug |
03:21 |
FreeFull |
To do with texture size differences |
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OldCoder |
Why is it occurring for me and others? and what differences? What shall I do as a workaround? |
03:23 |
OldCoder |
FreeFull, ^ thank you |
03:23 |
jacksepticeye |
Hi OldCoder |
03:23 |
OldCoder |
Shall I load 64x64 textures? But what triggers the bug? |
03:23 |
OldCoder |
jack Hi not now |
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jacksepticeye |
What why do you always do that to me. |
03:24 |
OldCoder |
Always as in twice in the last hour, Jack? |
03:24 |
jacksepticeye |
I have a reason why i rage quit |
03:24 |
OldCoder |
Both times when you were interrupting? |
03:24 |
OldCoder |
That is good to know |
03:25 |
OldCoder |
FreeFull, or others, why is the texture size mismatch bug occurring; i.e., what triggers it? Shall I load 64x64 ore textures? |
03:25 |
jacksepticeye |
Thats it im Never coming on moon test again Never |
03:26 |
FreeFull |
If only there was wood ore.. |
03:26 |
OldCoder |
Petrified wood might be ore FreeFull |
03:27 |
OldCoder |
FreeFull, further comments? If not, thank you |
03:28 |
FreeFull |
No further comments |
03:33 |
DFeniks |
im not completely sure . but ore and stone textures should be same size to avoid that . i think |
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OldCoder |
DFeniks, that is what I was thinking |
03:49 |
OldCoder |
I thought they were the same size but I was probably mistaken |
03:49 |
OldCoder |
FreeFull, your initial remark was appreciated; see me if you need minor assistance in the future |
03:56 |
FreeFull |
Ok |
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Inocudom |
The folks that make all those rip-off apps for Android and such depend upon and feed off of the ignorance of others. I view that as immoral. |
04:19 |
galundrux_ |
Well, moral people don't make any money now do they :P |
04:20 |
galundrux_ |
Not that I'm arguing, I'm just as broke as anyone |
04:20 |
Inocudom |
Of course, a number of those apps are freeware, but they tend to be abandoned for eternity by their placers. |
04:21 |
Inocudom |
Austerity is the way of the future. That is what the powers that be want. Ever seen Hunger Games? |
04:23 |
galundrux_ |
It's still not half as bad as that "security expert" that went out and said all flashlight apps are spyware, thats really playing on peoples ignorance, not to mention fear. |
04:24 |
OldCoder |
FreeFull, DFeniks; syncing texture sizes corrected the issue |
04:25 |
OldCoder |
Inocudom, is Farming++ working for you? |
04:26 |
galundrux_ |
Anyway, I was wondering why so many people log onto servers as guest? Is there anyway to stop that? |
04:29 |
galundrux_ |
Oh, and I need to get rid of bones to, they're cluttering up the place, is the only way to delete the folder? And will that remove the bones that are already there? |
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Mallot1 |
Hey |
04:33 |
galundrux_ |
Hey |
04:34 |
Mallot1 |
Why are there 8 item slots now? I just dropped by at the site and noticed the change. Also what happened to the cool website now it's all white. |
04:34 |
Mallot1 |
hi galundrux_: =D |
04:35 |
Inocudom |
Yes, it works in singleplayer map. How about on your server? |
04:38 |
Inocudom |
OldCoder, is the server using the latest version of Minetest? Farming++ might need it. Also, you might want to report any errors to MTDad so that they can be fixed. |
04:40 |
OldCoder |
You will need to find the errors for me Inocudom :-) as you requested this. And yes it is a very new copy. Sapier branch from a few days ago. |
04:40 |
domtron_ |
galundrux_: by deleting a mod folder all nodes in the world defined by it will remain in the world by my experience. The nodes will loose their texture and default to the "missing texture" texture. I'm not positive though. |
04:40 |
OldCoder |
Inocudom, does it seem to work? |
04:40 |
Mallot1 |
domtron_: you are correct |
04:40 |
OldCoder |
domtron_, as a general rule yes |
04:40 |
OldCoder |
Ninja |
04:41 |
OldCoder |
You can then use one of two mods to delete or convert the nodes |
04:41 |
OldCoder |
OR you can alias them; 3 alternatives |
04:41 |
OldCoder |
This works in most cases. Stairsplus stuff is a bit ugly but basic blocks work this way. |
04:42 |
FreeFull |
Be aware, all items inside the bones will be lost once you get rid of the nodes |
04:42 |
FreeFull |
So better get the items out first |
04:44 |
galundrux_ |
That's okay, doesn't seem to be much in them anyway, and there are hundreds so I'm not gonna bother with that. Thanks though. |
04:44 |
domtron_ |
galundrux: you might want to keep bones and just shorten/add the delete abm so they don't cause the clutter. |
04:45 |
domtron_ |
I mean if you want to keep bones. |
04:45 |
Inocudom |
OldCoder: I don't know what you mean by Sapiers branch. What is it of? |
04:46 |
OldCoder |
We are working on the Resend Reliable Total Death Bug |
04:46 |
OldCoder |
He rebased a few days ago |
04:47 |
OldCoder |
Branch is of his fork of master |
04:47 |
OldCoder |
So it is pretty current; less than a week old |
04:47 |
galundrux_ |
Yeah, I'm gonna have to work it out tomorrow I think, it's late here so my brain isn't really working :P |
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Inocudom |
This branch, OldCoder? https://github.com/sapier/minetest |
04:53 |
domtron |
galundrux_: I just looked at the code. It already uses the on_timer event to make the bones lootable by anyone after a set period. Another if statement could be added to delete the bones a little while after that has happened. |
04:54 |
Inocudom |
sapier, how up-to-date is this branch? https://github.com/sapier/minetest |
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galundrux_ |
Great, thanks, I'll look into that after I get some sleep |
04:57 |
RealBadAngel |
This branch is 191 commits behind minetest:master |
04:59 |
OldCoder |
commit 016448331061f87a63b8f9ef33671d81e8922ad1 |
04:59 |
OldCoder |
Author: RealBadAngel <maciej.kasatkino2.pl> |
04:59 |
OldCoder |
Date: Fri Nov 21 08:41:21 2014 +0100 |
04:59 |
OldCoder |
Port createForsythOptimizedMesh from Irrlicht 1.8 |
04:59 |
OldCoder |
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04:59 |
OldCoder |
Mesh rotation helpers. |
04:59 |
OldCoder |
I think my copy is up to date |
04:59 |
OldCoder |
Looking for the branch ID |
04:59 |
domtron |
Glad to try and help. Sleep well. |
04:59 |
OldCoder |
I am so tired... |
05:00 |
OldCoder |
I don't see the link but it is current through last weekend |
05:00 |
RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, that 191 behind applies to sapier's branch |
05:00 |
OldCoder |
Yes; but I have a branch from him that he said he'd rebased |
05:01 |
OldCoder |
And this was just a few days ago |
05:01 |
OldCoder |
It was not his default |
05:01 |
OldCoder |
I think Zeno, he, and I have finally fixed the network issue |
05:01 |
OldCoder |
He has made performance fixes |
05:01 |
OldCoder |
He says are important |
05:01 |
OldCoder |
I am preparing a patch now to review |
05:02 |
RealBadAngel |
good |
05:03 |
RealBadAngel |
this weekend i will push another important change, move highlighted and cracks to seperate scene node, without the need to rebuild meshes all the time |
05:03 |
RealBadAngel |
that will make gameplay smoother |
05:06 |
OldCoder |
git checkout -b reliable_timeout_fix origin/reliable_timeout_fix |
05:06 |
OldCoder |
That is Sapier's branch |
05:06 |
OldCoder |
and I am tweaking a copy right now |
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05:11 |
waressearcher2 |
is anyone here ? |
05:11 |
waressearcher2 |
does minetest uses voxel engine ? |
05:13 |
waressearcher2 |
hey bunch of lunatics |
05:13 |
domtron |
Minetest is a voxel game engine. |
05:14 |
waressearcher2 |
for example there is voxelstein, its a clone of wolfenstein3D, does minetest use similar technology ? voxels ? |
05:18 |
OldCoder |
Define voxel |
05:19 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, I will do one more test pass with changes I just made. I think this needs to go into 0.4.11 |
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05:19 |
waressearcher2 |
anyone ? |
05:20 |
OldCoder |
Define voxel |
05:20 |
OldCoder |
For your purposes |
05:20 |
waressearcher2 |
I don't know I though voxel is a tiny 3d pixel |
05:21 |
waressearcher2 |
so every block is a voxel, its not 3d block with texture internally its just one point but it rendered as block ? |
05:21 |
RealBadAngel |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel |
05:21 |
OldCoder |
If you are standing block, or cube |
05:21 |
OldCoder |
I want to know his definition |
05:21 |
OldCoder |
waressearcher2, what is it you are after? |
05:21 |
RealBadAngel |
is google so hard to use? |
05:22 |
waressearcher2 |
also there are "freeminer" and "voxelands", they were forked from minetest, are they better ? why don't those people just help developing minetest instead of creating another fork ? |
05:23 |
OldCoder |
settings->setDefault ("connection_timeout" , "30.0" ); |
05:23 |
RealBadAngel |
why dont we have a single game in the world? so everybody will develop just one and play the it? :P |
05:23 |
OldCoder |
g_settings->getFloat ("connection_timeout"), |
05:23 |
OldCoder |
settings->setDefault ("connection_timeout" , "30.0" ); |
05:23 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, should I use the 2nd with the 1st? |
05:23 |
OldCoder |
Says no default found at runtime |
05:23 |
waressearcher2 |
is there a way I can help ? I know some C and have spare time |
05:23 |
OldCoder |
waressearcher2, sure |
05:24 |
OldCoder |
What are your interests? |
05:24 |
RealBadAngel |
just take a look around, pick something you would like to improve and try |
05:24 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, should I use the 2nd with the 1st? Says no default found at runtime |
05:24 |
RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, i think you should |
05:24 |
OldCoder |
BUt |
05:24 |
OldCoder |
Says no default found at runtime |
05:24 |
OldCoder |
Is it sufficient to add the 2nd in defaultsettings.cpp ? |
05:24 |
domtron |
waressearcher2: Forks occur because people want to add features that the core developers don't want because it conflicts with their goles or are too unstable/slow/ect for the majority of players. |
05:25 |
RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, yes |
05:25 |
OldCoder |
ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Setting [connection_timeout] not found. |
05:25 |
DFeniks |
im not sure if it counts as voxel game if ve have also meshes and plantlike things |
05:25 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, I have not worked in this area and am tired physically |
05:25 |
OldCoder |
It is basically voxels |
05:25 |
RealBadAngel |
if something is not defined in config, defaultsettings.cpp defines it |
05:25 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, comments on the error message? |
05:25 |
RealBadAngel |
it is also responsible for creating the keys |
05:25 |
OldCoder |
Keys? |
05:26 |
RealBadAngel |
"connection_timeout" is the key |
05:26 |
RealBadAngel |
variable name |
05:26 |
OldCoder |
Never mind... I see my error thank you |
05:26 |
RealBadAngel |
"30.0" is a default value for the key |
05:26 |
RealBadAngel |
and will be used if not defined in config |
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05:27 |
DFeniks |
also each cube has texture . its not like its simply colored point |
05:27 |
domtron |
DFeniks: I have seen 7 days to die called a voxel game despite having a lot of meshes(full car models, ect). |
05:27 |
waressearcher2 |
RealBadAngel: on that page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel there is a list of voxel-based games and there is no minetest |
05:28 |
RealBadAngel |
feel free to add it there then :) |
05:28 |
OldCoder |
waressearcher2, It is a very nice game |
05:29 |
OldCoder |
Possibly one of the best little-known FOSS projects |
05:30 |
OldCoder |
waressearcher2, do you wish to visit some of the worlds? |
05:30 |
DFeniks |
Free Open Sandbox Simulator ? |
05:31 |
OldCoder |
:D |
05:31 |
OldCoder |
You know I mean the other FOSS |
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05:31 |
domtron |
One can't expect every list to be exhaustive. Also 'technically' Minetest isn't a game it is an engine which can run voxel based games. Games are available on the forums. An example is Adventuretest. |
05:32 |
DFeniks |
or something else, gona google abbreviation then |
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05:34 |
DFeniks |
ah , of course Free and open-source software . |
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05:44 |
domtron |
good night |
05:46 |
Inocudom |
00:09:12: ERROR[ServerThread]: Assignment to undeclared global "itemstacks" inside a function at ...st/bin/../games/minetest_game/mods/default/functions.lua:312. |
05:46 |
Inocudom |
That error appeared in minetest_game today... twice... |
05:47 |
OldCoder |
Inocudom, that is not necessarily an error; it is sometimes carelessness |
05:47 |
OldCoder |
People need to check for loaded mods |
05:48 |
OldCoder |
I have started to patch to fix those messages |
05:48 |
OldCoder |
Hopefully the patches will be accepted |
05:48 |
OldCoder |
Hm, but in default; that should not happen |
05:48 |
kaeza |
Inocudom, prefixing the line with `local` fixes the error |
05:48 |
OldCoder |
waressearcher2, explain what interests you |
05:48 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, hieza |
05:48 |
* OldCoder |
rests |
05:48 |
kaeza |
(should be fixed upstream, though) |
05:48 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, o/ |
05:49 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, I think Sapier and I are nearly done with part of a network overhaul; one part |
05:49 |
OldCoder |
Performance is supposed to be much better for poorer devices |
05:49 |
Inocudom |
OldCoder: This is the only error that I could find in farming++: 00:16:13: ERROR[ServerThread]: Assignment to undeclared global "node" inside a function at ...ek/.minetest/mods/farming_plusplus/farming_plus/init.lua:81. |
05:49 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, good :) |
05:49 |
OldCoder |
Inocudom, yes, I'll fix that one myself |
05:49 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
05:50 |
Inocudom |
I once replaced farming_plus and farming_redo with farming++ in a world once, and there were no crashes. |
05:51 |
Inocudom |
However, I did notice that wheat does not grow on farming_sand, even though all of the other plants will. |
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Fritigern |
it's so much fun seeing this in my logs : "22:01:31: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Player with the name "Guest5167" tried to connect from 138.229.206.130 but it was disallowed for the following reason: INVALID CLIENT VERSION!!!Visit http://minetest.net/download#android and update your client." |
06:05 |
Fritigern |
Hashtag: #littlewhitelies |
06:08 |
Fritigern |
Here's another one: "21:57:15: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Player with the name "Admin" tried to connect from 93.217.191.37 but it was disallowed for the following reason: Another user with that name is already logged on.Please choose a different username and try again." |
06:10 |
VanessaE |
heh |
06:15 |
Fritigern |
I mmodified the responses in the no_guests mod. I only wish i could have done that in a config/ini file though. But this works! Maybe i shold commit a patch for it? :-) |
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VanessaE |
such a thing would be trivial to patch, yes |
06:19 |
Fritigern |
BTW, i have finally figured out how to create a diff patch. (yay me!) I came across meld in my "start menu" and out of curiosity started it. |
06:19 |
Fritigern |
Next step: learning how to apply a diff patch! |
06:21 |
Fritigern |
Oh, btw, i expanded no_guests with the code from another mod. I don;t remember what it was called (sorry, whoever whote the thing), but it makes it so that if Billy tries to log in as billy (or bILLY), that user then gets told that there is already a user called Billy and if they meant to log in as that |
06:23 |
Fritigern |
Dangit, i wish i had added accreditation in the comments..... |
06:26 |
VanessaE |
that's ShadowNinja's code, probably |
06:26 |
VanessaE |
he did a case-insensitive patch, which I also use |
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Fritigern |
I don;t think many people would mind if it were merged in with no_guests. It's practically copy-paste-done |
06:35 |
Fritigern |
I mean, if i manage to plop it into no_guests, then anyone can do it :-) |
06:35 |
VanessaE |
heh |
06:38 |
Fritigern |
VanessaE: This is the mod as i currently have it : http://paste.kde.org/pslpodwtb |
06:39 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja's mod has a choosecase command also |
06:39 |
VanessaE |
I'm sure I'm screwing that up but you get the idea |
06:40 |
Fritigern |
Off-topic: sudo apt-get install vice |
06:40 |
Fritigern |
You know what i mean ;-) |
06:40 |
VanessaE |
heh |
06:41 |
* VanessaE |
looks over her poor C128 that never gets turned on anymore |
06:41 |
* Fritigern |
had a C128D and a C128DCR, never had a regular 128 |
06:42 |
VanessaE |
I've had a couple -DCR's in the past, still have the motherboard from at least one (might have both, I forget). |
06:42 |
VanessaE |
this flat 128 has been pretty reliable |
06:44 |
Fritigern |
The major difference between the D and the DCR is the vram (forgot what the C128 video chip was called, it wasn;t VIC becasue that was C64) |
06:44 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
06:44 |
Fritigern |
And poop. I forgot that vice also needs roms |
06:45 |
VanessaE |
the major difference is that the -DCR is a single board combining the drive controller and the computer into one unit, with different characteristics for the drive than is found in a standard 1571 (plus the VDC RAM :) ) |
06:46 |
VanessaE |
the -D is more or less just a flat 128 board and 1571 put into one case. |
06:46 |
Fritigern |
OKay, i give you that. The D was two boards, but the major difference foor the end users was the VDC which was 16K for the D and 64k for the DCR |
06:46 |
Fritigern |
*for |
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VanessaE |
yup, pretty much |
06:47 |
Fritigern |
BTW, ever tried Lunix? |
06:47 |
VanessaE |
my flat has a 64 kB RAM board in it. |
06:47 |
VanessaE |
yeah, didn't find it too useful |
06:47 |
Fritigern |
Seems like development of Lunix has continued since i last played with it MANY years ago |
06:48 |
VanessaE |
oh? |
06:48 |
VanessaE |
morning, LazyJ |
06:48 |
Fritigern |
Aparrantly, you can use Lunix to zset up a webserver, and more. |
06:48 |
Fritigern |
Hold on, let me look it up |
06:49 |
LazyJ |
G'evening/morning/tea time to you too. ;)- |
06:50 |
VanessaE |
http://lng.sourceforge.net/ |
06:50 |
VanessaE |
still pretty old, but that's certainly newer than I remember |
06:50 |
VanessaE |
heh |
06:51 |
Fritigern |
Yup, that was what i was looking for! I got stuck at http://hld.c64.org/poldi/lunix/lun_about.html |
06:52 |
Fritigern |
This shows that the C64 is THEE best computer ever built: "Preemptive multitasking (up to 32 tasks, 7 priorities)" |
06:52 |
VanessaE |
heh |
06:52 |
VanessaE |
hard to imagine people are still trying to push those things to such extents |
06:52 |
Fritigern |
Considering that the Motorola 6502/6510 is not built for multitasking, this is definitely a huge accomplishment |
06:52 |
VanessaE |
s/Motorola/MOS/ |
06:55 |
VanessaE |
(well, "still" is somewhat relative, since the last version of that OS was 10 years ago) |
06:56 |
Fritigern |
Okay, well. How's this. There are still demos made for the C64 |
06:56 |
VanessaE |
yup |
06:57 |
VanessaE |
ok, time for me to head off. |
06:57 |
VanessaE |
night :) |
06:57 |
Fritigern |
Twilight is still at it, Censor, Farlight, and more |
06:57 |
Zeno` |
night |
06:57 |
Fritigern |
Oh, okay. *WAVES* |
06:57 |
Zeno` |
Isn't it Fairlight? |
06:58 |
Fritigern |
Yes it is, confounded typos! |
06:58 |
Zeno` |
lucky I was here! |
06:58 |
Fritigern |
IKKER! |
06:59 |
Fritigern |
(it's how i pronounce IKR) |
07:00 |
Zeno` |
haha :) |
07:01 |
* Fritigern |
is watching a C64 demo from 2013 on Youtube and feels tempted to find really really early demos :-) |
07:01 |
LazyJ |
These "undeclared globals" that are now spamming ingame chat, is there a way to shift that to just appear in the logs? Players freak-out when they see frequent "ERROR" messages. |
07:02 |
Fritigern |
They could update their mods. And if there are no updates, they can nag the modders that made them |
07:03 |
LazyJ |
That doesn't help. |
07:04 |
LazyJ |
Some mods are very old and not maintained. |
07:04 |
LazyJ |
Not all modders will bother. |
07:04 |
LazyJ |
Minetest will gain the reputation of being quite error prone. |
07:04 |
Fritigern |
Hmmm... I could have a swing at updating some of them. Without the promise of maintaining them beyond this update |
07:05 |
LazyJ |
These are frustrations coming from a server-op who actually interacts with the players on the server. |
07:07 |
Fritigern |
I interact with my players too. And they have no idea of the uninitialized globals thing |
07:08 |
Fritigern |
BTW, they should not be seeing it in the chat. Dunny why this hapopens to you, but it does not happen on my server |
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kahrl |
http://sprunge.us/ICMO |
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Zeno` |
I can answer those questions |
09:25 |
Zeno` |
lol |
09:25 |
Zeno` |
did you say "yes, it's called minetest"? |
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09:39 |
Megaf |
Hi everyone |
09:39 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: LazyJ: Please do a top and tell me how much RAM your server is using |
09:40 |
LazyJ |
A top? How's that done? |
09:40 |
LazyJ |
Do you mean htop? |
09:40 |
nyuszika7h |
just type "top" in a terminal |
09:40 |
nyuszika7h |
htop works too |
09:40 |
nyuszika7h |
even better |
09:40 |
LazyJ |
590/4096mb |
09:42 |
Megaf |
yep, Im not the only one with the memory leak then |
09:42 |
Megaf |
LazyJ: minetestserver is using lots and lots of ram |
09:42 |
Zeno` |
Megaf, let me login |
09:42 |
Megaf |
it wasnt like that couple of months ago |
09:42 |
LazyJ |
Oh my memory has leaked for years. Comes with old age, young fellow. |
09:42 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: See? ^ |
09:43 |
Zeno` |
2230m 397m 54m S 17.0 19.4 106:28.75 minetestserver |
09:43 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: can you devs please stop blaming my server and do something about it? |
09:43 |
LazyJ |
That was an "age" joke. |
09:43 |
Zeno` |
Megaf, I am *trying* to track it down |
09:43 |
Zeno` |
I want it fixed as well ;) |
09:43 |
LazyJ |
Hehehe... so I'm not the only one not in a good mood tonight. ;)- |
09:43 |
LazyJ |
Or AM on this side of the globe. |
09:44 |
Zeno` |
I've been concentrating on the (apparent) client leak but I'll change my priority to the server |
09:44 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: you are only one, there are several minetest devs that could help you and do a great work. But it seems like you are the only one interested in fixing stuff =/ |
09:44 |
Megaf |
LazyJ: I'm furious with minetest |
09:44 |
Zeno` |
I dunno if that's true :p |
09:44 |
Megaf |
It's no longer crashing, but now it's using lots of ram for nothing |
09:45 |
LazyJ |
Well, it all done by volunteer work. Front-lines to development. Easy to forget that. |
09:45 |
Megaf |
Yes, it caches data and stuff, but there is a timeout, and after the timeout memory are not becoming free again |
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Zeno` |
It's not an easy bug to track down (well, the client one isn't) |
09:46 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: I will keep running my server because now I know that you are actually working on it. As a work around I will increase swap and RAM to 1 GB each and reduce my timeout to unload items |
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09:47 |
Megaf |
free -m on my server without minetest server running http://paste.debian.net/plain/133920 |
09:48 |
Zeno` |
I'll do a bunch of checks and profiling on the server. Let's hope it's not as hard to track down as the apparent client leak |
09:50 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: 70 MB being used by the server just after starting up http://paste.debian.net/plain/133921 |
09:50 |
Megaf |
17 MB to 88 Mb |
09:50 |
Megaf |
firefox uses less memory than that for doing nothing |
09:51 |
Megaf |
windows xp uses less memory than that for doing nothing |
09:51 |
Megaf |
Linux Kernel uses way less memory than that... |
09:56 |
DFeniks |
actually im curious i dont know that much about inner workings of software , but why modern software use so much ram? i mean entire minetest could fit in that much ram many times over |
09:56 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: I believe it has become stable now, without anyone joining it's stable at 87 MB of memory use, http://paste.debian.net/plain/133923 |
09:57 |
Megaf |
DFeniks: The truth is, devs are becoming lazy, |
09:57 |
Megaf |
DFeniks: back in the day RAM was expensive and dev had to work hard to optimize their software |
09:57 |
Megaf |
a good example of a well done game is Quake III |
09:57 |
Zeno` |
I don't think we're lazy |
09:58 |
Megaf |
it can run with filterings, settings on max and in full HD, 1920x1080 with 256 MB of ram on a 600 MHz ARM CPU, Raspberry Pi |
09:58 |
Zeno` |
And I am trying hard to optimize :P (and done a good job so far!) |
09:58 |
Zeno` |
But so far I've been concentrating on client |
09:58 |
Zeno` |
I will be turning to server optimisation next |
09:58 |
Megaf |
Minetest is way simpler than it and yet can't run properly with 4 GB of ram and dual core 1,3 GHz x86_64 CPU |
09:59 |
exio4 |
Megaf: the devs try to get something done without having to throw everything off |
09:59 |
exio4 |
because the last option is practically a 2 years work |
09:59 |
Megaf |
DFeniks: dev used to even write pieces of code in assembly to get the best performance possible |
09:59 |
Megaf |
and they would hunt bugs down |
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Megaf |
now a days software is released incomplete |
10:00 |
Megaf |
see PS4 and XBox One games |
10:00 |
Megaf |
you buy one, go home to play and have to wait several minutes, or hours, updating it |
10:00 |
Zeno` |
so I have a 20% improvement in the draw loop |
10:00 |
Zeno` |
oops, wrong window |
10:01 |
sol_invictus |
Megaf: that's a comfortable position you are in. why don't you help the devs? |
10:02 |
sol_invictus |
or is it more productive to whine here and demand stability? |
10:03 |
Megaf |
sol_invictus: I can not code. So I'm reporting everything I can and testing any solution they can offer |
10:03 |
Megaf |
sol_invictus: And I'm only acting like this because I'm fed up being polite and being ignored |
10:03 |
Megaf |
So I have decided to make some noise and you know what? It might work. |
10:04 |
Zeno` |
I'm not ignoring you |
10:04 |
exio4 |
minetest has a lots of bugs, and not enough people who can spend their whole days debugging and stuff, based on the fact that people don't have infinite free time, I guess we're actually kinda nice |
10:04 |
Zeno` |
But I, personally, only have so many hours in a day to devote to this |
10:04 |
Zeno` |
and the other devs probably less (because I recently became unemployed, unlike them, I have a bit more time) |
10:05 |
Megaf |
exio4: I know, I understand that. Problem is, they waste their time and people throwing in lots of new features, shaders, changing default game behaviour. INSTEAD OF HUNTING/FIXING BUGS AND OPTIMIZING THE CODE AND CLEANING OLD CODE. |
10:05 |
Zeno` |
I have not added ONE NEW FEATURE |
10:05 |
Zeno` |
All I've done so far is... optimise |
10:06 |
Zeno` |
and clean up |
10:06 |
Zeno` |
see refactor_main and refactor_the_game |
10:06 |
DFeniks |
i guess its better to have game as it is (and trying to improve if people with right skills join in) rather that give up and dont have game at all |
10:06 |
Megaf |
exio4: Zeno` is the only active dev that I see actually working on improving things, even before he was invited to join the team |
10:06 |
Megaf |
before him sapier used to do some stuff |
10:07 |
Zeno` |
And this is this afternoon's effort: http://i.imgur.com/nK41xkP.jpg |
10:07 |
Zeno` |
Granted, most of my stuff so far has been to the client, but I'm at about the limit of that (without going silly) |
10:07 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: Please, when I'm making a critic to minetest devs I'm not talking about you, you are doing a great work and I'm extremely thankful for that |
10:07 |
Zeno` |
So I will turn to the server either tomorrow or in the next few days |
10:07 |
Zeno` |
I am exempt? hehh :D |
10:08 |
exio4 |
Megaf: is your critic against people who did a lot of stuff before, but because they have a life to take care of, they can't do much now? |
10:10 |
Megaf |
exio4: my critic is against people throwing new features before fixing existing bugs |
10:10 |
Megaf |
sapier is one dev that I saw doing great work and now he can no longer contribute as much as he used to |
10:11 |
exio4 |
tell me how what new features, most new features I saw weren't written by the coredevs |
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Megaf |
Can anyone confirm this issue please? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1878 |
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sol_invictus |
I had this in fm, so yeah. |
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Megaf |
LazyJ: So, are you able to confirm this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1880 |
11:41 |
Megaf |
!title |
11:41 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: minetestserver will keep consumig RAM till it uses all available RAM and SWAP. · Issue #1880 · minetest/minetest · GitHub |
11:42 |
LazyJ |
Megaf, we are still running 0.4.10 from about a month after the version update. |
11:43 |
LazyJ |
Back in August or September... I think. |
11:43 |
LazyJ |
I haven't updated the engine since. |
11:44 |
LazyJ |
So if you are using a more current GitHub release, the comparison may not be useful. |
11:44 |
LazyJ |
Still reading the link... |
11:46 |
Megaf |
LazyJ: oh, I see |
11:46 |
Megaf |
I update my server every day |
11:46 |
LazyJ |
This is what "free -m" spit out: |
11:46 |
LazyJ |
total used free shared buffers cached |
11:46 |
LazyJ |
Mem: 4096 3867 228 0 0 3314 |
11:46 |
LazyJ |
-/+ buffers/cache: 553 3542 |
11:46 |
LazyJ |
Swap: 0 0 0 |
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LazyJ |
Heh. Now I remember why I don't like sharing information in this channel. -.- |
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sol_invictus |
The most stupid flood protection imaginable ->[Paste flood detected |
11:50 |
LazyJ |
Megaf, did that paste go through? |
11:50 |
Megaf |
LazyJ: Yep |
11:51 |
LazyJ |
That's after the backup restarted the server 2hrs ago. 1 active player for the past hour. |
11:51 |
LazyJ |
I'm not sure what else Orby has the server running. Apache is there along with the website, forum, wiki, irc, and who knows what else. |
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[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Fix regression with command line --go option edb1258 http://git.io/b96xbg (2014-11-28T22:48:46+10:00) |
12:50 |
Zeno` |
exio is a hacker! |
12:51 |
exio4 |
yes!1!! I am super hax0r! |
12:51 |
exio4 |
I can use my computer with only a KEYBOARD!!!!!1!!1!111 |
12:51 |
Zeno` |
h4x0r! |
12:51 |
Zeno` |
I have EIGHT keyboards! |
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sol_invictus |
wut ._. |
12:52 |
Zeno` |
yeah, so I can type faster |
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exio4 |
5|_|P3R |-|4><0R |
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sol_invictus |
1337? |
12:53 |
Zeno` |
yes, not many people use multiple kybds connected to the same computer |
12:53 |
Zeno` |
if it's not 1337 it's at least unique |
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sfan5 |
Zeno`: does laptop keyboard + normal keyboard count as multiple? |
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sfan5 |
(the laptop keyboard is partially broken which is why i use an external one) |
12:54 |
sfan5 |
hi everyone btw |
12:54 |
Zeno` |
sfan5, if you're using both at the same time (left hand on laptop keyboard, right hand on external one) |
12:54 |
Megaf |
I have seen enough http://9gag.com/gag/aZWE3pp |
12:54 |
Megaf |
!title |
12:54 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Here are my awesome drawing skills! Hope you like it! - 9GAG |
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sol_invictus |
sfan5: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3VFembCcAA565U.png:large |
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sfan5 |
Zeno`: that would hurt if i were to do it for longer |
12:55 |
Zeno` |
sfan5, :D |
12:55 |
sfan5 |
because the laptop keyboard is farther away than the normal one |
12:55 |
Megaf |
Hi sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
hi |
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exio4 |
seriously tho, what is your WPM? |
12:56 |
sfan5 |
mine? i have no clue |
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exio4 |
\o/ |
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DFeniks |
i sometimes type with left hand on real keyboard , right hand with onscreen one |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Rui914 -> minetest/minetest: Update minetest.po (Japanese) 2b1a151 http://git.io/iS496g (2014-11-28T23:09:58+10:00) |
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Megaf |
[100%] Built target minetestserver |
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Megaf |
real 0m50.529s |
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Megaf |
my AMD is so much quicker than these shitty octacore Xeon CPUs =/ |
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you're only building half of minetest |
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Megaf: why not crosscompiling? |
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exio4 |
building on the rpi sounds like painfully slow |
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Megaf |
exio4: about 200 minutes |
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Zeno` |
that's why you cross-compile :P |
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Megaf |
I would apreciate help on cross compiling later on |
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RealBadAngel, here at all? Fascinating Technic issue happening! |
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OldCoder |
When people run their Technic stuff on Landrush, low lag. When they *leave* the area, lag spikes and goes out of control. Seems reproducible. WTH? |
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OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, ^ |
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hisforever |
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Guest79042 |
i'm an old man and know nothing, can i join a minetest world becaus ei am sad and alone |
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Megaf |
!up megaf.no-ip.info 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
megaf.no-ip.info:30003 seems to be down |
14:36 |
Megaf |
Thats not actually true... |
14:37 |
Megaf |
!up megaf.no-ip.info 30003 |
14:37 |
MinetestBot |
megaf.no-ip.info:30003 seems to be down |
14:37 |
someguy_irc_ |
um... help? http://puu.sh/d8MOe/57a4fd981f.png |
14:38 |
sfan5 |
>activate windows |
14:38 |
Megaf |
whats wrong someguy_irc_ |
14:38 |
someguy_irc_ |
the images isnt loading. .-. |
14:38 |
Megaf |
Piratebay Windows Edition detected |
14:38 |
someguy_irc_ |
yes |
14:39 |
someguy_irc_ |
lol |
14:39 |
someguy_irc_ |
but. |
14:39 |
someguy_irc_ |
why isn't the images loading? |
14:39 |
Megaf |
someguy_irc_: use a decent browser, like Firefox |
14:39 |
someguy_irc_ |
I do. |
14:39 |
Megaf |
you even have nightly |
14:39 |
someguy_irc_ |
I use it everyday. |
14:39 |
someguy_irc_ |
yep. |
14:39 |
Megaf |
someguy_irc_: it might be some extension blocking images on chrome |
14:39 |
someguy_irc_ |
well stupid chrome was messing around. |
14:39 |
someguy_irc_ |
Its fixed now. |
14:40 |
someguy_irc_ |
that Tab was messed up. |
14:40 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Megaf |
14:40 |
* Megaf |
purrs |
14:40 |
someguy_irc_ |
and are you even experiencing this? http://puu.sh/d8MW0/d97b9989b4.png |
14:40 |
* someguy_irc_ |
's cat jumps on his lap. |
14:40 |
someguy_irc_ |
meow. |
14:41 |
someguy_irc |
dosen't come up "Herrrrrrmit" in nightly. |
14:41 |
someguy_irc |
chrome come on |
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14:41 |
Megaf |
just dont use chrome... |
14:41 |
someguy_irc |
And. |
14:41 |
Megaf |
and dont use hide my ass |
14:41 |
someguy_irc |
nightly = broke. |
14:41 |
someguy_irc |
^ |
14:42 |
someguy_irc |
Adblock plus is not working. |
14:42 |
someguy_irc |
or adblock Edge. |
14:42 |
someguy_irc |
ever since I refreshed* nightly. |
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PenguinDad |
someguy_irc: I just doesn't preserve the filter lists after a restart |
14:43 |
someguy_irc |
hm? |
14:44 |
hisforever |
how do I reset time? |
14:44 |
someguy_irc |
I really want to know. |
14:44 |
someguy_irc |
, offtopic again: does my lum-sand texture look any better? http://puu.sh/d8Nan/27df4b30d3.jpg |
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Fritigern |
hisforever: What do you mean? In-game? In Linux? Windows? The clocks in your house? |
14:50 |
Megaf |
Fritigern: he wants to recreate the begining of the universe and time |
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Fritigern |
In the beginning was the Word. The word was with God, and the word was God. |
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Megaf |
Yep, he wants that |
14:51 |
Amaz |
Hoc erat in Principo apud Deum, omnia per ipsum factum est... |
14:51 |
Megaf |
before God creates the universe |
14:51 |
Amaz |
(Only know it in Latin ;)) |
14:52 |
Fritigern |
:-) |
14:52 |
* Megaf |
trying to play on his server when running valgrind, and with luajit disabled |
14:52 |
Megaf |
the laggest server ever |
14:52 |
Megaf |
join the party! megaf.no-ip.info 30003 |
14:52 |
Fritigern |
Megaf: Are you still going to compile MT on your Pi? |
14:53 |
Megaf |
Fritigern: yep |
14:53 |
Megaf |
Fritigern: didnt you see the link I gave you? |
14:53 |
Fritigern |
Coolness. I hope it runs better than last eim |
14:53 |
Fritigern |
*time |
14:53 |
Megaf |
I gave you a link where you can download my build for raspberry pi |
14:53 |
PenguinDad |
Fritigern: In the beginning was the God. The god was with God, and the god was God. :P |
14:54 |
Fritigern |
Megaf: It's currently of no use to be, as i do not (yet) have a pi |
14:54 |
Megaf |
oh |
14:56 |
Fritigern |
I do want one though. very much so. However, i am rather poor (as in have to buy the cheapest food to make ends meet), so it may take a while before i can get the Raspberry Pi B+ that i want. And then i will need a microSD card, and a powersupply (i don;t want to hook it up to my USB), and an HDMI cable.... |
14:57 |
Fritigern |
Now, i know that in the grand scheme of things, all those items are quite cheap. But for someone who does not have any money to spare at all, it is relatively costly |
14:57 |
Megaf |
Fritigern: Im too poor |
14:57 |
Megaf |
and I dont have a job |
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Fritigern |
I am considering taking out a loan, and buy a coupl of Raspberry Pis and (plus cases, and microsd card, and all that), put them together and sell them as home theater devices. I will even install them for the customer |
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PenguinDad |
!c 8192 * 0.058 |
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MinetestBot |
475.136 |
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troller |
Fritigern, rpi = slow useless shit |
15:01 |
Fritigern |
Troller, go back into your cave |
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sfan5 |
troller: not useless, but still slow |
15:02 |
troller |
Fritigern, you in cave, not me. look to odroid, radxa, firefly and other boards (every 30-50x faster than pi) |
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sfan5 |
!g radxa |
15:03 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://radxa.com/ |
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Fritigern |
I don't care what you think. Will you pay for that stuff? Because i sure as hell can not fork over that kind of money |
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troller |
better wait http://radxa.com/Rock2 |
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sfan5 |
lolwat |
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sfan5 |
http://radxa.com/mw/images/1/1a/Cpu_ram.png |
15:04 |
sfan5 |
i love those graphs |
15:05 |
troller |
ODROID-U3 = $65 |
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sfan5 |
"radxa has quad core, random dual core and single-core stuff for comparison" |
15:05 |
Fritigern |
rpi = $20-$35 |
15:05 |
sfan5 |
"also, single-cores can't have more than 700 MHz, and dual-cores not more than 1.0 GHz" |
15:05 |
sfan5 |
"oh, and there is 512MB, 1GB" |
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PenguinDad |
lolwat |
15:05 |
sfan5 |
"but radxa has 2GB" |
15:06 |
troller |
Fritigern, but odroid 30x faster = rpi cpu cost = $20*30 |
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sfan5 |
troller: thats not how you compare CPUa |
15:06 |
sfan5 |
troller: thats not how you compare CPUs |
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troller |
compare it yourself |
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sfan5 |
do i look like i have an odroid |
15:09 |
* Megaf |
has ODroid U3 and Raspberry Pi Model B |
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* sfan5 |
has rpi model b |
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Megaf |
Both are totally different and can't be compared |
15:09 |
Megaf |
They are intended for totally different things |
15:10 |
Megaf |
Raspberry Pi is intended to teach children to code |
15:10 |
Megaf |
ODroid is a board for Android development |
15:10 |
Megaf |
test games and stuff |
15:10 |
troller |
wat |
15:10 |
troller |
both just arm boards |
15:10 |
Megaf |
both are able to do other stuff |
15:11 |
Megaf |
troller: your logic is like, comparing a netbook with a powerful cluster of computers |
15:11 |
Megaf |
both have x86 boards |
15:11 |
Megaf |
so what? |
15:12 |
troller |
no, my logic comparing 15 years old hardware and current |
15:12 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: the rpi even has armv6, while the odroid has v7 |
15:12 |
Megaf |
you can not compare troller |
15:13 |
troller |
radxa 2 on Cortex-A17 |
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Fritigern |
I'm sticking to my plan. to use rpi to make a home theater device. It's perfect for that. Performance, memory, everything. It's perfect for this purpose. especially with OpenElec |
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Megaf |
indeed |
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troller |
rpi Performance ? lol |
15:19 |
troller |
compile openoffice on rpi |
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Fritigern |
Why would i want to do that if i intend it as a home theater system? |
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troller |
what about fullhd video playing ? |
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Fritigern |
Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. Now, bye bye, time to popularte my ignore list. You obviously live up to your name |
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troller |
or you have 80x25 char plasma ? |
15:22 |
troller |
maybe pi can play ultrahd videos too ? |
15:22 |
Megaf |
troller: try to dig a mountain using a ferrari |
15:22 |
Megaf |
you cant, its not made for that |
15:22 |
PenguinDad |
Fritigern: is it really fast enough for 4K 10-bit H264? :P |
15:23 |
Megaf |
troller: raspberry pi wasnt intented to compile openoffice |
15:23 |
Megaf |
now please shut up |
15:23 |
Fritigern |
http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#costandperformance |
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troller |
raspberry pi wasnt intented. |
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Megaf |
sfan5: can you please ban troller ? |
15:26 |
Megaf |
He is such an annoying troll |
15:26 |
sfan5 |
PenguinDad: raspberry pi? 4K or 10-bit or H.265? no |
15:26 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: no |
15:26 |
troller |
Megaf, just because i have another point ? |
15:27 |
Megaf |
because you are making stupid points |
15:27 |
sfan5 |
PenguinDad: the raspberry pi struggles with every video that is not decodeable by the gpu |
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troller |
stupid = not yours ? |
15:27 |
Megaf |
I would have added you to the ignore list if Quassel Client had one |
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Megaf |
PenguinDad: it can decode any 1080p that is supported by its GPU |
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Megaf |
Fritigern: thats a point that you have to consider |
15:28 |
Megaf |
it can only decode a limited numer of formats |
15:28 |
Megaf |
and yet you need to buy licenses to be able to decode them using the GPU |
15:38 |
Megaf |
cool, I can actually ignore in Quassel :) |
15:38 |
Megaf |
all troller comments have just vanished from my chat log/list :) |
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troller |
Megaf, trolled! |
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Fritigern |
Rest and relaxation at last! :-) |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
hello is it possible to precise the quantity when using the /giveme command? |
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Calinou |
YuGiOhJCJ, /giveme item 99 |
16:26 |
Calinou |
-1 = 65535 = big stack |
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Calinou |
/giveme stone -1 |
16:26 |
Calinou |
try this |
16:26 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
it works :) |
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Calinou |
I got Aseprite to build |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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Calinou |
hi rubenwardy, chess? |
16:55 |
rubenwardy |
Not right now |
16:56 |
Calinou |
http://fr.lichess.org/MW3OzRSl/black |
16:56 |
Calinou |
a grandmaster is playing |
16:56 |
Calinou |
against a lichess master |
16:56 |
Calinou |
7 spectators on the game :p |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
do you know why "/giveme desert_stone" gives this result: "Cannot give an unknown item"? |
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Calinou |
it is /giveme default:desert_stone |
17:04 |
Calinou |
use the mod prefix if there is no alias |
17:06 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy, also see http://fr.lichess.org/blog/VHRZwCgAACoAoiFv/november-new-features |
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YuGiOhJCJ |
thank you it works :) |
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Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10200&p=163053#p163053 |
17:44 |
Calinou |
Minetest IDE build for Ubuntu 14.10 (64-bit) |
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mitrom |
Good afternoon |
17:49 |
Calinou |
hi mitrom-ney |
17:49 |
* Calinou |
joke of the day |
17:49 |
mitrom |
wow |
17:49 |
mitrom |
11/10 |
17:49 |
* PenguinDad |
doesn't get it |
17:49 |
Calinou |
Mitt Romney |
17:49 |
mitrom |
who the hell is mitt romney |
17:51 |
Calinou |
a politician in the US |
17:52 |
mitrom |
oh rly |
17:53 |
mitrom |
Massachusetts Institute of Technology Random Access Memory |
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mitrom |
yeah whatever |
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Megaf |
Fritigern: http://www.raspberrypi.org/slice-a-media-player-using-the-raspberry-pi-compute-module/ |
18:00 |
Megaf |
!title |
18:00 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Slice – a media player using the Raspberry Pi Compute Module | Raspberry Pi |
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PenguinDad |
Random Only Memory :P |
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mitram |
RAM is like orgasms, good when you don't have to fake it. |
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Krock |
black friday |
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proller |
gta5 on raspberry pi |
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mitram |
no |
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mitram |
just why |
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Krock |
pong on i7 |
18:08 |
kaeza |
greetings |
18:08 |
Krock |
o/ kaeza |
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kaeza |
\o |
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mitram |
I want you to escape me. |
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Megaf |
Hi kaeza |
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Jordach |
i play Civ5 for half an hours and it's now 7pm |
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NakedFury |
civ5 is a time eater game |
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NakedFury |
just one more turn makes time fly |
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Wayward_One |
RealBadAngel, any news on the extruded plantlike idea? |
20:29 |
waressearcher2 |
I heard you arguing about coding style https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/65#issuecomment-4637110 instead of writing acrual code is that true ? is that why minetest's development is so slow ? |
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SylvieLorxu |
Coding style does matter if you want to have a codebase you can maintain :x |
20:34 |
SylvieLorxu |
That's not to say I know much about this specific case |
20:36 |
twoelk |
waressearcher2: you seem to be pretty much barking at the wrong tree ;-D |
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kaeza |
in cases like these, the dev complaining about style could just fix it him/herself before committing |
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hawk666 |
hello any modders on ? |
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kaeza |
lots |
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NemoMT |
Hello :) |
20:54 |
kaeza |
remember kids: don't ask to ask, just ask :) |
20:55 |
hawk666 |
well i am working on a car mod, i have added a model for some reason the car drives side ways, how can i set it up so the odel faces the right way ? |
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Leoneof |
O_o |
20:56 |
Leoneof |
hello |
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Krock |
olleh |
20:56 |
hawk666 |
this is Estebans car mod i am working ib |
20:56 |
NemoMT |
Hello Leoneof |
20:57 |
Leoneof |
why i am here? |
20:57 |
ulla |
hi all |
20:57 |
NemoMT |
Leoneof: MineTest? :P |
20:57 |
NemoMT |
ulla: Hi :) |
20:57 |
Leoneof |
no idea |
20:57 |
Leoneof |
:] |
20:57 |
Krock |
hawk666, I if it drives sideways, then is the movement code messed up |
20:58 |
hawk666 |
ok were will i find the movement code ? |
20:58 |
kaeza |
either that, or the model needs to be rotated 90 degrees |
20:58 |
ulla |
vanessae is online? |
20:59 |
hawk666 |
the model needs rotating 90 degrees i would say |
21:02 |
Krock |
VanessaE, ulla needs your physical presence |
21:03 |
ulla |
? |
21:04 |
ulla |
t no is my friend in minetest |
21:05 |
ulla |
but some peapole facked my pasword |
21:06 |
Krock |
could the admins on inchranet help you? |
21:06 |
Krock |
IRC isis.inchra.net #minetest |
21:07 |
ulla |
not but now i am banned |
21:09 |
exio4 |
>isis |
21:09 |
exio4 |
this is the terrorism |
21:09 |
exio4 |
conclusion; minetest is used for terrorism |
21:09 |
kaeza |
:D |
21:10 |
exio4 |
you are a terrorist modder kaeza |
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* Krock |
throws a coconut at lemonlake |
21:10 |
lemonlake |
Excuse me? |
21:11 |
kaeza |
exio4, http://facesoflions.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Hay.jpg |
21:11 |
exio4 |
you are all terrorists, I am reporting you to the internet police |
21:11 |
lemonlake |
What did I do? |
21:11 |
NemoMT |
exio4: pls no |
21:11 |
gravgun |
exio4: oh hai dis iz da police |
21:11 |
Krock |
lemonlake, yes. I excuse you. |
21:11 |
lemonlake |
Krock: Thank you |
21:12 |
Krock |
lemonlake, np |
21:12 |
PenguinDad |
exio4: no no no we only follow ancient egyptian cults :P |
21:12 |
kaeza |
quick! encode all your documents in rot13! twice! |
21:12 |
Krock |
:D a scarecrow |
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lemonlake |
kaeza: no |
21:12 |
lemonlake |
just no |
21:12 |
Krock |
kaeza, yes yes. |
21:12 |
kaeza |
Krock, a straw man :3 |
21:12 |
exio4 |
lol kaeza |
21:13 |
Krock |
kaeza, that's missing in minetest. strawman mobs |
21:15 |
lemonlake |
so meshthings are a thing now, if im correctt? |
21:15 |
lemonlake |
meshnodes* |
21:15 |
twoelk |
strawmen mobs = scarecrows? |
21:16 |
PenguinDad |
lemonlake: reading the commit log is too hard for you? :P |
21:16 |
lemonlake |
i haven't been paying attention to the project for a long time |
21:16 |
kaeza |
meshthings are nodes, yes |
21:16 |
lemonlake |
meshthings is just the new name now, isn't it |
21:17 |
ulla |
servers, I have been banned, belong to Vanessa |
21:17 |
lemonlake |
good englishing you are |
21:17 |
Krock |
twoelk, no no. must be strawmen |
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ulla |
lol sorry for my bad english |
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lemonlake |
oh we're on 0.4.11 now, didn't notice |
21:18 |
Krock |
we're not |
21:19 |
lemonlake |
looking towards, i meant |
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NemoMT |
lemonlake: You got my hopes up |
21:19 |
lemonlake |
rofl |
21:19 |
Krock |
Added 3 new and updated 3 mods in the search engine |
21:20 |
Krock |
I wonder if there are suggestions to extend it |
21:20 |
kaeza |
ulla, go here: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.inchra.net/#minetest |
21:21 |
kaeza |
enter your nickname, and click "Start" or whatever |
21:21 |
kaeza |
there are other moderators online ATM |
21:21 |
ulla |
t but iknow only vanessa |
21:21 |
twoelk |
she is trying to get unbanned |
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waressearcher2 |
to what version of minecraft you compare minetest ? |
21:23 |
PenguinDad |
waressearcher2: none |
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exio4 |
waressearcher2: do you compare trucks with buses |
21:24 |
ulla |
other no know me vanessa is fiduc |
21:24 |
lemonlake |
^ |
21:24 |
lemonlake |
ninja'd |
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waressearcher2 |
are there zombies,skeletons,creepers,cows,sheeps, chickens in minetest ? |
21:24 |
Jordach |
no |
21:24 |
waressearcher2 |
any mobs ? |
21:25 |
kaeza |
yes, via one of the various mob mods |
21:25 |
waressearcher2 |
I'm trying to compile celeron55-minetest-0.4.dev-20120408-21-g388906a right now, haven't played it yet |
21:25 |
exio4 |
-2012 |
21:25 |
kaeza |
wat |
21:25 |
exio4 |
did you know we are in 2014? |
21:25 |
lemonlake |
exio4: I would prefer a truck over a bus because you can fit more people in it due to the lack of seats, which take up a significant area of the vehicle |
21:25 |
twoelk |
waressearcher2: http://wiki.minetest.net/Mobs some mobs listed there |
21:25 |
waressearcher2 |
I have only that source |
21:26 |
exio4 |
lemonlake: I prefer combi-like vehicles :3 |
21:26 |
kaeza |
waressearcher2, https://github.com/minetest/minetest <-- latest sources |
21:26 |
waressearcher2 |
kaeza: maybe later when I got decent internet |
21:27 |
kaeza |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/stable-0.4 <-- this one for latest "(not so) stable" |
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shadowzone |
ulla: what's goin' on? |
21:28 |
lemonlake |
exio4: they're quite cool but you can't use them for mass transportation |
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waressearcher2 |
also why its source doesn't use "configure" script ? |
21:28 |
exio4 |
my family doesn't have any truck lemonlake, only bus & http://imganuncios.mitula.net/asia_motors_hi_topic_slxsdxdlx_full_diesel_100535029308107661.jpg |
21:28 |
kaeza |
well, you are trying to compile the program from 2 years ago... at best, you will find it playable, for a very broad definition of playable |
21:29 |
Jordach |
because fuck yo standards, aka that thing they call systemd |
21:29 |
twoelk |
it might play with his nerves |
21:29 |
exio4 |
>standards |
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* kaeza |
whispers something about competing standards and needing a new one to unify the rest |
21:31 |
exio4 |
an xkcd for every moment, http://xkcd.com/927/ |
21:32 |
twoelk |
unavoidable |
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ulla |
shdow |
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Fritigern |
RealBadAngel: Another waypoints related server crash : http://paste.kde.org/pmrulpjvt |
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22:37 |
lemonlake |
what happened |
22:37 |
lemonlake |
what is occuring |
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22:39 |
lemonlake |
>.< |
22:43 |
Megaf |
why? |
22:44 |
PenguinDad |
Trap induced headaches and hallucinations I'd guess |
22:44 |
exio4 |
I like that |
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casimir |
Some time ago someone wrote an oven like node that would turn cobble in gravel and gravel in sand and so on. Does someone know where I can find this? |
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kaeza |
casimir, technic grinder? |
23:08 |
lemonlake |
^ |
23:09 |
casimir |
I was looking for something more simple. |
23:09 |
casimir |
I found that it was in LogoSkyBock, but the link is dead. |
23:10 |
casimir |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6851 |
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PenguinDad |
Revive the link then |
23:10 |
lemonlake |
its not on his github |
23:11 |
PenguinDad |
casimir: this one? https://github.com/PilzAdam/LogoSkyBlock/tree/master/mods/crushingfurnace |
23:11 |
lemonlake |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/LogoSkyBlock |
23:11 |
lemonlake |
ninja'd |
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nejni-marji |
I'm trying to make a custom texture for leaves and the alpha layer is just showing up as white. |
23:12 |
casimir |
Thank you. |
23:12 |
lemonlake |
nejni-marji: what software are you utilising? |
23:12 |
nejni-marji |
GIMP 2. |
23:13 |
lemonlake |
does it posess an alpha channel? |
23:13 |
nejni-marji |
Yes. |
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lemonlake |
TIL mediacrush is on github |
23:19 |
waressearcher2 |
I have a problem running minetest |
23:19 |
lemonlake |
waressearcher2: Elaborate |
23:19 |
waressearcher2 |
http://sprunge.us/ePCE this is output |
23:19 |
waressearcher2 |
it starts the game and then after 2 seconds it prints "Aborted" |
23:20 |
lemonlake |
how old is that version |
23:21 |
VanessaE |
waressearcher2: if you got a version that mentions "celeron55" in the folder, it's olllllld |
23:21 |
waressearcher2 |
what is the problem ? |
23:21 |
VanessaE |
get the sources from https://github.com/minetest/minetest |
23:21 |
VanessaE |
and build it |
23:21 |
lemonlake |
waressearcher2: Please try compiling from the source code 388906a |
23:21 |
waressearcher2 |
you can't release version that is not working, it is should work |
23:21 |
lemonlake |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest |
23:21 |
lemonlake |
* |
23:21 |
VanessaE |
or get the official release from minetest.net |
23:21 |
waressearcher2 |
don't |
23:21 |
lemonlake |
waressearcher2: that is not a release |
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23:22 |
lemonlake |
Can't tell if troll or just ignorant :/ |
23:22 |
VanessaE |
troll. |
23:22 |
exio4 |
both |
23:22 |
lemonlake |
lol |
23:22 |
exio4 |
a good troll would know what he is talkin' about |
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Megaf |
freeminer-celeron55-0.3 works |
23:38 |
Megaf |
freeminer is better than minetest |
23:39 |
Megaf |
well, good night |
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NemoMT |
Goodnight Megaf |
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