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jordan4ibanez |
Test. |
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Test is best |
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paramat |
discussing 'infinite ghetto size' http://www.gizoogle.net/xfer.php?link=https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php%3Ff%1D5%26t%3D9183%26start%1D50&sa=U&ei=GsZ2VI6QMcHuaNz_guAP&ved=0CBQQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHUhczgGUuZGoX7-o1O75PTHPZ7pw |
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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Add minetest.copy_table(table) To get rid off the "table references" 6a43b3a http://git.io/Y__-tg (2014-11-27T18:19:01+10:00) |
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Megaf |
God morning |
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OldCoder: You are never on when DMan is =/ |
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Zeno`: Hi, from what mod your mushrooms are? |
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s/God/Good |
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Zeno` |
Megaf, I made them myself |
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Megaf |
cool |
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Megaf |
Zeno`: based on the VanessaE's mushroom? |
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Zeno` |
The texture is based on a photo I took: https://www.flickr.com/photos/australimage/7143912911/ |
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Zeno` |
Megaf, https://github.com/Zeno-/minetest_mtz/tree/master/flora |
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Zeno`: I tried making a mushroom with nodebox editor but I failed |
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Megaf |
Zeno`: your green bright mushroom could be an extension for my Leprechaun tools, they could give Leprechaun Crystal when cooked... |
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Zeno` |
you're welcome to use them |
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Zeno` |
if you keep the texture name the same you'll get HDX support for free |
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Megaf |
Zeno`: so, are you into photography? |
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* Megaf |
is |
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stormchaser3000 |
i have some spam posts to report |
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stormchaser3000 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10639 |
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stormchaser3000 |
and https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10640 |
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stormchaser3000 |
VanessaE: ^^ |
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Zeno` |
Megaf, sure am :) |
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Zeno` |
Megaf, gcflora/australimage is me |
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Megaf |
cool |
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Zeno`: I am eumegaf |
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Megaf |
I dont remember when I uploaded my mushroom photos |
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Zeno`: https://www.flickr.com/photos/megaf/ |
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Zeno`: The mushroom photo was taken by me |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / MegafXplore | Ping: 2ms |
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Megaf |
!server Onez |
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Megaf: Onez' Minetest Server | mtzeno.com | Clients: 0/25, 1/8 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 156ms |
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Zeno` |
nice cluster of shrooms! |
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Megaf |
Zeno`: Thanks :) |
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I actually have a couple of photos of different clusters from the same day |
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BudderWorrier |
Hi |
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BudderWorrier |
How is everyone today? |
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* Megaf |
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Megaf |
That's how I am today |
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Megaf |
Hi :) |
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Megaf |
Hi john_minetest |
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Megaf |
I did some small modifications in your spleef arena |
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Megaf |
and lots of things have changed around of it |
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Megaf |
the city is growing |
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Tahirah and Haiku are building a lot there, and so is daZe and Jessch8281 |
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SoniEx2 |
how hard is it to stick a different mod API on minetest? |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
uh |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
you mean to support modding in Python or Ruby or whatnot? |
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PenguinDad |
ThatGraemeGuy: expecially in whatnot :P |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
hehe |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
$ ./coolscript.whatnot |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
bash: ./coolscript.whatnot: /usr/bin/whatnot: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
oh noes |
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Megaf |
SoniEx2: not too hard actually |
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exio4 |
I bet lang → lua compiler would be easier though |
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SoniEx2 |
meh |
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SoniEx2 |
why can't you just add a C API |
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SoniEx2 |
and make a Lua plugin with that |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
why can't you? It's open source after all |
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SoniEx2 |
because I don't C |
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exio4 |
did you know the core devs have only finite time to spend on minetest? |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
then perhaps you shouldn't be barking orders :) |
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exio4 |
and they don't do it in their jobs, but as a hobby after they did their real work? |
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SoniEx2 |
well just take everything related to Lua and stick it in a file somewhere then change it so it doesn't depend on Lua |
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exio4 |
you say it like it was easy |
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exio4 |
and there is some kind of modularity in that sense |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
yeah sounds easy, are you done yet? can we test it? ;-) |
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exio4 |
don't be that way, it is a nice thing |
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SoniEx2 |
it is easy tho |
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exio4 |
but what is kinda sad is that people likes to complain "WHY ISN'T THIS DONE? at this really high-level, it is freaking easy" |
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SoniEx2 |
might be buggy but still easy |
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exio4 |
how is it easy? |
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SoniEx2 |
it's just about changing the luaL_checkwhatever into arguments(?) |
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SoniEx2 |
then doing a .so that bridges the API and Lua |
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exio4 |
luaL_checkwhatever it the lesser of your problems, different scripting "engines" have different ways to manage parameters, for saying one thing, you would need to abstract that |
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SoniEx2 |
use C |
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SoniEx2 |
the bridges take care of that |
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exio4 |
SoniEx2: there is some kind of abstraction |
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exio4 |
in the actual codebase |
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SoniEx2 |
there's a hexchat python plugin, lua plugin, perl plugin, and I think even java plugins |
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SoniEx2 |
no abstraction |
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SoniEx2 |
just "stick a C API and let the bridges shoot themselves on the foot" |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
I'm confused, you say you don't know C and yet you seem to have this all figured out |
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SoniEx2 |
ThatGraemeGuy, I said I don't C |
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Zeno` |
bridges? |
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exio4 |
python/lua/perl engines are over the C layer, they're abstractions over a common abstractions |
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exio4 |
Zeno`: the guns, the wall |
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exio4 |
Zeno`: winter is coming |
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exio4 |
something something something |
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SoniEx2 |
Zeno`, C<->Lua, C<->Java, Minetest<->IRC, etc |
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exio4 |
the "<->" looks simple |
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exio4 |
it is painfully hard to do right |
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SoniEx2 |
yeah that's why you can crash the hexchat python plugin |
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SoniEx2 |
but that's not the API's fault |
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exio4 |
it is an insane work, based on the fact that APIs need to be mantained alone |
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SoniEx2 |
well ok |
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SoniEx2 |
so anyone wanna help me with code design? |
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Zeno` |
SoniEx2> how hard is it to stick a different mod API on minetest? <--- pretty hard |
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exio4 |
it is like saying "I have a car, why can't it be a truck? just let them be vehicles!" |
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exio4 |
it is really easy, you just have a chassis, and then the engine and then... |
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Zeno` |
I'd love a C API/ABI, but it's not as easy as you seem to think |
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SoniEx2 |
Zeno`, what about PIC? |
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Zeno` |
what about it? |
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SoniEx2 |
gcc -fPIC <stuff> minetest.so or w/e |
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exio4 |
what you are saying is basically rewriting minetest |
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exio4 |
well, not rewrite all of it |
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exio4 |
but at least 50%~ of it, I guess |
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Zeno` |
I will say that this is something I have been thinking about, but (really) it's not easy at all |
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exio4 |
who here didn't think about it? |
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SoniEx2 |
it is easy |
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Zeno` |
exio4, I dunno :) I started to implement it though |
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exio4 |
my argument still stands, those things are hard to get "right", and switching from a working thing, to a bad-designed thing |
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Zeno` |
SoniEx2, it's not |
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SoniEx2 |
considering I rewrite my code more than I write new code, it is easy |
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SoniEx2 |
(about 10 times more in case you're wondering) |
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Zeno` |
SoniEx2, write it and make a pull request then |
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SoniEx2 |
but I don't like doing C |
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Zeno` |
I thought you said it was easy |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
perhaps you should stop saying its easy and start coding |
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SoniEx2 |
if anything I'll write it in LuaJIT (FFI) |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
and if you can't then the whole thing becomes a bit pointless |
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exio4 |
how big are the things you work with? |
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exio4 |
isn't minetest like a.. kinda big in terms of code? |
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exio4 |
a/like a/like/ |
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SoniEx2 |
meh |
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Zeno` |
exio4, it's not that big but my last two refactors changed about 6000 line |
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exio4 |
I also rewrite my small <500LOC programs more than once |
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exio4 |
Zeno`: it is kinda big compared to "the average single-person hobby project" |
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Zeno` |
exio4, yeah |
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SoniEx2 |
I rewrite my whole github repos every now and then |
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exio4 |
how many LOC? |
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Zeno` |
500 LOC I could write in a few hours (or less, depending on what I want to do) |
| 14:11 |
Zeno` |
and this C API/ABI thing is no where near that simple |
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SoniEx2 |
some of them have 500 LOC, others have a few thousand (or at least had - yay abstractions and refactoring) |
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exio4 |
I can write 3000 LOC in a hour too |
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Zeno` |
anything less than 20000 LOC is not really complicated |
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exio4 |
the thing is keeping the problem in mind and the _design_ of the implementation |
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exio4 |
if you know what you exactly are mean to code |
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Zeno` |
if designed correctly anything < 100K lines is probably not complicated either |
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exio4 |
you said the words |
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exio4 |
designed correctly |
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SoniEx2 |
so you're saying minetest is poorly designed? |
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Zeno` |
me? No |
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SoniEx2 |
then why don't we toss the codebase and start fresh? |
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proller |
minetest is not designed |
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exio4 |
you seem to have a lot of free time |
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Zeno` |
although there are some things in it that I disagree strongly with |
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Zeno` |
SoniEx2, you may start afresh :) Nothing stopping you... |
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SoniEx2 |
well there's minetest not taking my PRs |
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SoniEx2 |
I'd say they'd probably hate them |
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Zeno` |
what PRs? |
| 14:16 |
proller |
if you want something more designed - look to https://github.com/Nocte-/hexahedra |
| 14:16 |
SoniEx2 |
pull requests |
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Zeno` |
Generally you have to almost fight to get a PR merged |
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Zeno` |
I know what a PR is... show me one of yours |
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Zeno` |
And I'll look at it |
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Zeno` |
it/them |
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proller |
pain and humiliation before every merge ;) |
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Zeno` |
yeah, it adds to the fun! |
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proller |
but only in first week |
| 14:20 |
Zeno` |
But, SoniEx2, seriously... I will look at your PRs |
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Zeno` |
All the devs do... they don't ignore them for no reason (mostly) |
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galundrux |
Does anybody here have some experience running a server? I've had my server up for about 5 hours now and it seems relativly popular. But I'm wondering about ways to reduce lag? |
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proller |
galundrux, try freeminer ;) |
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galundrux |
Okay, I'll have a look at what that is, thanks :) |
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exio4 |
it is a differet game, and proller is their marketing director |
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galundrux |
That seems to be windows only, I run a debian server so thats not an option anyway |
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proller |
yes, lag is very different |
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galundrux |
Does make much diffrence if I change the textures from 512 to 256? |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
for the server? no |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
textures affect client-side rendering |
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galundrux |
Hmm, thats what I thought |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
are you having lag or just low fps? they aren't the same thing |
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Zeno` |
SoniEx2? |
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galundrux |
It seems fine to me, but some people were complaining about lag, and I noticed the world showing up slower the more peoplle came on, ping is currently at 37.2 |
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Zeno` |
37.2?? |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
I've run a server on a lowly VM without lag problems |
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Zeno` |
galundrux, where is the server? |
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galundrux |
yeah, it's the second one on this list http://servers.minetest.net/ |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
granted only 8 or 9 people played on it |
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proller |
ThatGraemeGuy, you have 0 players? |
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Zeno` |
I mean, how can I connect to it |
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galundrux |
In norway |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
proller: eh? |
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SoniEx2 |
Zeno`, busy |
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galundrux |
I havenæt really set it up yet, just testing. but you should be able to log in with either the IP or by useing hexagon.hexagonsix.com port 30000 |
| 14:33 |
Taoki |
galundrux: The networking protocol is very basic and unoptimized. Minetest will always lag in multiplayer |
| 14:33 |
Taoki |
So much that I don't even consider it actually playable online any more... |
| 14:33 |
galundrux |
it's the second one in the list with no decription 79.161.91.136 |
| 14:34 |
Taoki |
The networking code needs to be heavily rewritten it seems. And something like enet implemented |
| 14:34 |
galundrux |
oh, okay, that kinda sucks... |
| 14:34 |
Taoki |
yeah |
| 14:35 |
galundrux |
Whats it useing? I read somewhere it was built from scratch, but maybe it would be possible to use code from the ogre3d project if thats better, just a thought |
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proller |
enet already done in current freeminer ;) |
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Taoki |
Yep. While apparently no one bothers to simply port that code to mainstream Minetest :/ I imagine some compatibility / protocol issues could be solved |
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galundrux |
release it opensource for linux then ;) |
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* Taoki |
tried Freeminer, but it's very laggy and unstable and crashy in return |
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Taoki |
Even without weather and dynamic fluid |
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Taoki |
Moreso with |
| 14:37 |
proller |
something already fixed |
| 14:37 |
Taoki |
ok. Was about a month ago I think |
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Taoki |
Also eats a lot of RAM. Seemingly with VBO disabled as well |
| 14:38 |
jin_xi |
needs more resources for sure |
| 14:38 |
jin_xi |
my crappy old notebook can not handle fm well |
| 14:38 |
proller |
it much better for dedicated server |
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galundrux |
Well, if you both got advantages and disadvantages why dosen't the two projects just merge? |
| 14:42 |
jin_xi |
fm is fork |
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Zeno` |
Fm uses c++11 |
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Zeno` |
which is not acceptable for MT at this time |
| 14:45 |
Zeno` |
So they can't really be merged |
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galundrux |
ah, okay |
| 14:46 |
Zeno` |
Also, FM is GPL and MT is LGPL |
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exio4 |
why that change though |
| 14:46 |
exio4 |
trolling I bet |
| 14:47 |
Zeno` |
exio4, no idea. But clause 3 of the LGPL allows re-licensing under GPL so it must have been a decision proller made |
| 14:48 |
Zeno` |
Which is fine |
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Amaz |
Spam user: https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=12020 |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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OldCoder |
VanessaE, kaeza Hi back |
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OldCoder |
Silvercrab is not appearing recently on the active server list. This does not seem to be due to curl timeout. Is there a known explanation? |
| 15:48 |
VanessaE |
the list server itself is borked |
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VanessaE |
has been for a while |
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exio4 |
oh look, it is a kaeza |
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exio4 |
also hi VanessaE |
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nejni-marji |
I want to add a localization to Minetest, can you tell me how to go about that? |
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mitrom |
Hi |
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twoelk |
nejni-marji: do you mean this? http://dev.minetest.net/Translation |
| 15:58 |
nejni-marji |
Yes, I think so. |
| 15:59 |
twoelk |
eh?, bad gateway? is weblate broken? |
| 16:01 |
nejni-marji |
Seems so. |
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nejni-marji |
Hm... Is there a way to force an alternative language? |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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* kaeza |
hugs an exio4 |
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exio4 |
aww |
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mitrom |
Awww |
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* PenguinDad |
hugs mitrom |
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* mitrom |
holds PenguinDad firmly |
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mitrom |
But gently |
| 16:10 |
exio4 |
free hugs for everyone |
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kaeza |
nejni-marji, which OS? under *nix, it's usually by setting the `LANGUAGE` environment variable |
| 16:11 |
mitrom |
Yay |
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* jin_xi |
shrugs |
| 16:11 |
mitrom |
LANG |
| 16:11 |
kaeza |
or LANG |
| 16:11 |
kaeza |
D: |
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mitrom |
Ya |
| 16:11 |
mitrom |
Cat /etc/locale.gen | grep lol |
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mitrom |
S/lol/uk |
| 16:11 |
exio4 |
useless use of cat |
| 16:11 |
mitrom |
Or whatever |
| 16:11 |
mitrom |
Why |
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exio4 |
grep "whatever" /etc/locale.gen |
| 16:12 |
mitrom |
Yes grep does that |
| 16:12 |
kaeza |
Cat: command not found |
| 16:12 |
mitrom |
But eh |
| 16:12 |
mitrom |
Old habits die hard |
| 16:12 |
mitrom |
Try rabbit |
| 16:12 |
nejni-marji |
kaeza: I'm running Windows, sadly, since I'm borrowing a computer. |
| 16:12 |
mitrom |
Then its simple |
| 16:12 |
exio4 |
I think it works too |
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kaeza |
nejni-marji, ah |
| 16:13 |
mitrom |
Do then a favour and get linux |
| 16:13 |
mitrom |
Control Panel or something |
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mitrom |
I might learn gaskell |
| 16:14 |
mitrom |
Or skythob |
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* mitrom |
gives up |
| 16:14 |
exio4 |
gaskell? |
| 16:14 |
nejni-marji |
Yeah, but the person whose computer I'm borrowing doesn't want Linux and probably couldn't use it, either, especially since I'd use Arch. |
| 16:14 |
exio4 |
install debian |
| 16:14 |
mitrom |
Ah the good arcg |
| 16:14 |
mitrom |
Ubuntu rofl |
| 16:15 |
exio4 |
>good arch |
| 16:15 |
exio4 |
mfw |
| 16:15 |
mitrom |
Win vs linux == ubuntu vs arch |
| 16:15 |
kaeza |
gaskell! |
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nejni-marji |
Exactly. |
| 16:15 |
mitrom |
Gaskell is a thing now |
| 16:15 |
mitrom |
Hasperl |
| 16:15 |
nejni-marji |
Is Gaskell some weird fork of Haskell? |
| 16:15 |
AgentFire |
Happy Thanksgiving Nemo! |
| 16:15 |
mitrom |
Hasperlythonua |
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exio4 |
you know Haskell nejni-marji? :D |
| 16:16 |
mitrom |
Exio4 does |
| 16:16 |
mitrom |
Hacker |
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nejni-marji |
I know _of_ it. Never used it, though. |
| 16:16 |
mitrom |
Looks hard |
| 16:16 |
exio4 |
it isn't |
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nejni-marji |
Maybe if I learn Haskell, then I'll be able to actually make xmonad do things. |
| 16:17 |
exio4 |
it is different, and if you are used to learn languages and only learn new syntax, nope |
| 16:17 |
mitrom |
Yep |
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nejni-marji |
Haskell has lazy variable something or other in it. |
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exio4 |
"lazy variable something"? |
| 16:18 |
exio4 |
nah, it is a lazy language by that |
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exio4 |
let x = a in b, won't evaluate x |
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kaeza |
a lazy language for lazy people |
| 16:18 |
kaeza |
exio4, get off your lazy ass and learn C! |
| 16:18 |
exio4 |
I know enough C |
| 16:18 |
kaeza |
ALL HAIL C! |
| 16:18 |
exio4 |
IPoIRC! |
| 16:19 |
mitrom |
Very different |
| 16:19 |
mitrom |
Banks still use cobol... |
| 16:19 |
mitrom |
Invented by a grass hopper |
| 16:19 |
exio4 |
kaeza: the report actually says non-strict |
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twoelk |
nejni-marji: have you allready studied the minetest.conf.example? The language section is at the very end |
| 16:21 |
nejni-marji |
Oh, no. |
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OldCoder |
Should I run a server list? |
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* OldCoder |
is resting |
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AgentFire |
Happy Thanksgiving OldCoder |
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kaeza |
we need a master server master server list list |
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kaeza |
or something like that :P |
| 16:25 |
kaeza |
mai engrish iz gud |
| 16:25 |
exio4 |
yeah, just mine like |
| 16:25 |
jin_xi |
muy mejor que mi espagnol |
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nejni-marji |
No, we both need a master server master server list list, because then we have to make a master server master server master server list list list. |
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PenguinDad |
function a() b() end; function b() a() end; a() -- The master server master server master server list list list problem :P |
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exio4 |
that sounds too verbose |
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exio4 |
let a = b; b = a in a |
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kaeza |
PenguinDad, fun fact: function a() return b() end; function b() return a() end; a() -- this will overflow the stack |
| 16:30 |
kaeza |
never overflow* |
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exio4 |
tail calls aren't fun facts |
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kaeza |
you are not too fun :< |
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PenguinDad |
kaeza: I know rhat |
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PenguinDad |
*that |
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kaeza |
rat |
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exio4 |
mutual recursion is l33t |
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exio4 |
> let xs = 1:ys; ys = 2:xs in take 20 xs |
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exio4 |
[1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2] |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
| 16:36 |
exio4 |
hi! |
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luizrpgluiz |
someone speaks Spanish? |
| 16:48 |
exio4 |
luizrpgluiz: yes, why? |
| 16:49 |
luizrpgluiz |
I wanted a little help to create my mod |
| 16:49 |
Calinou |
##minetest-es |
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Amaz |
Why is that ## when the other ones are just # ? |
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Calinou |
because kaeza made it so |
| 16:51 |
exio4 |
it wasn't official when it started |
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Amaz |
Ah okay. |
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mitrom |
Mornin |
| 16:55 |
mitrom |
Let's play screenfetch |
| 16:56 |
kaeza |
#minetest-es is owned by KikaRz, but haven't seen her around lately, and can't bother to ask FN staff to transfer ownership |
| 16:56 |
mitrom |
http://pastie.org/9747184 |
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mitrom |
It'd be plain rude to just steal the channel from her |
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kaeza |
!seen kikarz |
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MinetestBot |
kaeza: kikarz was last seen at 2014-11-10 20:05:57 UTC on #minetest |
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kaeza |
well, a month ago... |
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mitrom |
What does the other bot do? |
| 16:58 |
mitrom |
.seen sfan5 |
| 16:58 |
PenguinDad |
~seen mitrom |
| 16:58 |
ShadowBot |
PenguinDad: I saw mitrom in #minetest 14 seconds ago saying ".seen sfan5" |
| 16:58 |
PenguinDad |
wow |
| 16:58 |
mitrom |
I saw mitrom then too |
| 16:58 |
mitrom |
We have so much in common ShadowBot |
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exio4 |
lol |
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exio4 |
kaeza: memoserv to the rescue |
| 17:01 |
mitrom |
PornServ FTW |
| 17:04 |
mitrom |
so i went up to the till at macdonalds and asked if they take bitcoin |
| 17:04 |
exio4 |
"what is bitcoin?" |
| 17:04 |
mitrom |
Not funny if the dumb people don't know what it is. |
| 17:04 |
mitrom |
Yup |
| 17:04 |
mitrom |
You gessed |
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jin_xi |
so who is stupi, the guy who goes to McD with crypto or the cashier not taking it? |
| 17:07 |
mitrom |
the cashier is clearly the stupi one |
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kobold |
Hello |
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* sfan5 |
meows at mitrom |
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mitrom |
yay |
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mitrom |
I accidentally bricked my PC by throwing it out of the window |
| 17:15 |
mitrom |
Still works |
| 17:15 |
mitrom |
Only it has a different function now |
| 17:15 |
exio4 |
I wouldn't throw my expensive computer out of the window |
| 17:15 |
mitrom |
Neither would I |
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nejni-marji |
You transmorgrified it into an expensive paperweight. |
| 17:15 |
exio4 |
I think I have spent like 12-17k ARS on it |
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mitrom |
I think we should be able to buy TLDs |
| 17:19 |
mitrom |
And domains would be subdomains |
| 17:19 |
mitrom |
I'll take mitrom |
| 17:19 |
mitrom |
mitrom.mitrom =P |
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nejni-marji |
Is the fact that torches persist underwater a bug or a feature? |
| 17:36 |
Jordach |
0bug m9 |
| 17:37 |
exio4 |
both |
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PenguinDad |
A buggy feature :P |
| 17:38 |
proller |
"solved in freeminer" (tm) ;) |
| 17:39 |
exio4 |
proller: "solved in freeminer"â„¢ * |
| 17:41 |
twoelk |
if you want to build underwater consider it a feature |
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nejni-marji |
Gkq; a ydakfod ks md kjdle |
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* nejni-marji |
switches on Dvorak |
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nejni-marji |
It's a feature to me. |
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kaeza |
it is trivial to implement that with an ABM |
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Krock |
!c 25 / 1 |
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MinetestBot |
25.0 |
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Krock |
!c 25 / ( 1 + 9 ) |
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MinetestBot |
2.5 |
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Krock |
meow. |
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Calinou |
!c 25 ^ -2 |
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MinetestBot |
-25 |
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PenguinDad |
!c 3 / 9 |
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MinetestBot |
0.3333333333333333 |
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exio4 |
!c ((-25) ** (1/3))**(pi/e) |
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MinetestBot |
NameError: name 'pi' is not defined |
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exio4 |
!c ((-25) ** (1/4))**(3.14151/e) |
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MinetestBot |
NameError: name 'e' is not defined |
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kaeza |
you fail |
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exio4 |
!c ((-25) ** (1/4))**(math.pi/math.e) |
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MinetestBot |
(1.5601858745237822+1.997502331483938j) |
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exio4 |
FINALLY |
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* AgentFire |
dresses MinetestBot up like a turkey |
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AgentFire |
Dig in guys! |
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nejni-marji |
Does the depth of a Minetest world ever end? |
| 18:42 |
Amaz |
-31000 or so :) |
| 18:42 |
VanessaE |
it ends at -30927 or some such |
| 18:44 |
nejni-marji |
wow |
| 18:45 |
exio4 |
unless you are very very bored, it doesn't end :D |
| 18:45 |
* Amaz |
has a friend who must be very very bored. |
| 18:45 |
Amaz |
He is trying to dig to the bottom of his world :D |
| 18:46 |
nejni-marji |
Because noclip would be cheating? |
| 18:46 |
Amaz |
He just wants to get to the bottom by digging. |
| 18:46 |
nejni-marji |
Heh. |
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kaeza |
!c (lambda x,f=(lambda x, f:(chr(int(x[:2],16))+f(x[2:],f))if(x)else""):f(x,f))("492063616E20636F756E7420746F20706F7461746F") |
| 18:46 |
MinetestBot |
'I can count to potato' |
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nejni-marji |
http://xkcd.com/861/ |
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nejni-marji |
I should make a mod to add shift-click in inventories. |
| 18:50 |
Amaz |
What do you mean? |
| 18:50 |
nejni-marji |
shift-click on an item to automatically move it to a different inventory |
| 18:50 |
Amaz |
Right. |
| 18:50 |
nejni-marji |
shift click your charcoal to put it in your furnace etc |
| 18:51 |
Amaz |
Think I've seen that in some MC let's plays... |
| 18:51 |
nejni-marji |
*coal |
| 18:51 |
nejni-marji |
yeah |
| 18:51 |
Amaz |
But I think a c++ engine patch might work better than a mod. |
| 18:51 |
Amaz |
This may have something that might help you: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1707/files |
| 18:52 |
Amaz |
But, imo, that would be an awesome patch. |
| 18:52 |
nejni-marji |
But then I'd have to learn C++ |
| 18:52 |
nejni-marji |
tfr |
| 18:52 |
nejni-marji |
yup* |
| 18:52 |
Amaz |
Yeah... But I think Lua may be to inefficient for something like that however... |
| 18:53 |
Amaz |
-however |
| 18:53 |
kaeza |
well, I'm pretty sure you can't do "shift click stack move" or whatever via Lua |
| 18:53 |
Amaz |
Or just impossible :P |
| 18:53 |
nejni-marji |
A patch to add a shift-click functionality would probably be better in the core code to begin with. |
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exio4 |
!c (lambda f: (lambda x: x(x))(lambda y: f(lambda *args: y(y)(*args))))(lambda f: lambda n: (1 if n<2 else n*f(n-1)))(5) |
| 18:54 |
MinetestBot |
120 |
| 18:55 |
nejni-marji |
What's more important would be a patch that let's me use ; and ' as keybinds. |
| 18:56 |
nejni-marji |
I think that may just be a change of taking the text name of a key and using a scancode instead. |
| 18:56 |
kaeza |
you'd also need a way to tell the client which kind of stack goes where, which could be a bit messy |
| 18:57 |
nejni-marji |
only for furnaces, though. |
| 18:58 |
nejni-marji |
So you could just tell it if the stack = {coal,wood,etc} then put it in the bottom slot. |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
<nejni-marji> I should make a mod to add shift-click in inventories. |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
this is done in C++, not Lua |
| 18:59 |
Amaz |
Calinou, we've just discussed that ;) |
| 18:59 |
nejni-marji |
Yeah, that occured to me. |
| 18:59 |
Calinou |
I saw it, just confirming |
| 18:59 |
Amaz |
Okay. |
| 19:00 |
kaeza |
this kind of thing would be one of the things better suited for client-side Lua |
| 19:00 |
kaeza |
if that is ever done :> |
| 19:00 |
Calinou |
making a C++ patch for this is doable, but not trivial |
| 19:00 |
Calinou |
kaeza, if we want good security, then client-side Lua should be installed by players by hand |
| 19:01 |
Calinou |
and never downloaded and run from server |
| 19:01 |
Calinou |
ie. players choose their client-side mods |
| 19:01 |
Amaz |
What do you think the chances of client-side lua becoming a reality are kaeza? |
| 19:01 |
Calinou |
it could be… change crosshair colour based on health, change FOV based on speed, and so on |
| 19:01 |
kaeza |
Calinou, indeed; sort of providing two versions of mod, one for server, one for client |
| 19:01 |
Calinou |
you could still do a lot of things with client-side Lua done that way |
| 19:01 |
Calinou |
but not made for interacting with specific mods |
| 19:01 |
kaeza |
the client one would be most of the time rather simple |
| 19:02 |
Calinou |
(or if it does, it's to enhance experience, it should not be a requirement) |
| 19:02 |
nejni-marji |
serverside one is the lua code, clientside is a way to toggle it on/off? |
| 19:02 |
nejni-marji |
yeah, to enhance experience. |
| 19:03 |
nejni-marji |
wait, is FOV an option ingame as of now or no? |
| 19:03 |
kaeza |
Amaz, it first needs to be developed. it would basically be the same as when MT implemented server-side Lua for the first time |
| 19:04 |
Amaz |
Do you think that will ever happen? Is there enough interest> |
| 19:05 |
kaeza |
nejni-marji, it kinda is; it can be changed via the config file (and singleplayer), but not at runtime in multiplayer |
| 19:05 |
nejni-marji |
cool. |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
fov = 72 |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
is the default |
| 19:05 |
kaeza |
`fov = 180` in `minetest.conf` |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
you can change it in singleplayer games while playing |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
kaeza, the cap is 10-170 |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
/set -n fov 90 |
| 19:06 |
kaeza |
ninjas everywhere |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
like max FPS |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
you can change them while playing thanks to /set |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
but that's only for local games |
| 19:06 |
nejni-marji |
cool |
| 19:06 |
Amaz |
What does the -n do in the /set? |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
create setting if it doesn't exist |
| 19:06 |
exio4 |
it always exist, as far as I know |
| 19:07 |
Amaz |
Ah, okay. |
| 19:07 |
Calinou |
anyone wants to play chess? |
| 19:07 |
nejni-marji |
fov 180 is a challenge. |
| 19:07 |
kaeza |
<Amaz> Do you think that will ever happen? [...] |
| 19:08 |
kaeza |
of course! the universe still has AFAIK a few billion years to live |
| 19:08 |
Amaz |
XD |
| 19:08 |
kaeza |
that should be enough time |
| 19:09 |
exio4 |
I don't think they are enough |
| 19:09 |
nejni-marji |
Chess is too simple. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of Global Thermonuclear War? |
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Calinou |
FOV >= 180 is impossible, except in fisheye |
| 19:10 |
nejni-marji |
fisheye? |
| 19:10 |
* ElectronLibre |
just tried fov = 180, it's horrible. |
| 19:11 |
PenguinDad |
fov = 360 must be fun :P |
| 19:11 |
ElectronLibre |
*Unplayable. |
| 19:11 |
nejni-marji |
Is there a way to set key configurations to use scancodes, because it won't let me use `'` or `;`, which is annoying as a Dvorak user. |
| 19:11 |
ElectronLibre |
And painful for eyes ._. |
| 19:12 |
Calinou |
http://strlen.com/gfxengine/fisheyequake/compare.html |
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Calinou |
fov = 360 is possible in fisheye |
| 19:14 |
nejni-marji |
Fisheye is cray-cray. |
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exio4 |
!c (lambda f: (lambda x: x(x))(lambda y: f(lambda *args: y(y)(*args))))(lambda f: lambda n: (2 if n4♥ else n*f(n-1)))(999) |
| 19:15 |
MinetestBot |
SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1) |
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exio4 |
damn |
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exio4 |
!c (lambda f: (lambda x: x(x))(lambda y: f(lambda *args: y(y)(*args))))(lambda f: lambda n: (2 if n<3 else n*f(n-1)))(999) |
| 19:15 |
MinetestBot |
RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in comparison |
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exio4 |
!c (lambda f: (lambda x: x(x))(lambda y: f(lambda *args: y(y)(*args))))(lambda f: lambda n: (2 if n<3 else n*f(n-1)))(998) |
| 19:15 |
MinetestBot |
RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in comparison |
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exio4 |
!c (lambda f: (lambda x: x(x))(lambda y: f(lambda *args: y(y)(*args))))(lambda f: lambda n: (2 if n<3 else n*f(n-1)))(300) |
| 19:16 |
MinetestBot |
30605751221644063603537046129726862938858880417357699941677674125947653317671686746551529142247757334993914788870172636886426390775900315422684292790697455984122547693027195460400801221577625217685425596535690350678872526432189626429936520457644883038890975394348962543605322598077652127082243763944912012867867536830571229368194364995646049816645022771650018517654646934011222603472972406633325858350687015016979416885035375213755 |
| 19:16 |
exio4 |
cool |
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ElectronLibre |
The only way to play correctly with fov = 360 is to reverse your screen, enable noclip and fly, and to walk in the nodes.. ._. |
| 19:18 |
nejni-marji |
What are the nodes? |
| 19:19 |
ElectronLibre |
nodes = blocks, air, flowers, etc.. |
| 19:19 |
nejni-marji |
oh, right. |
| 19:20 |
exio4 |
!c (lambda f: (lambda x: x(x))(lambda y: f(lambda *args: y(y)(*args)))) |
| 19:20 |
MinetestBot |
<function <lambda> at 0x7f607db99378> |
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exio4 |
sfan5: would it be possible to get a "fix" function defined using this? |
| 19:21 |
jin_xi |
or just get rid of !c and kindly use your own shell? |
| 19:26 |
nejni-marji |
Is there a way to bind a console command to a key? |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
no :'( |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
would be grea |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
+t |
| 19:30 |
nejni-marji |
you could make a workaround with autohotkey/xkeybind |
| 19:30 |
nejni-marji |
in theory |
| 19:30 |
exio4 |
or just hack the code |
| 19:31 |
exio4 |
I have to study for the finals |
| 19:31 |
exio4 |
lets better spend that time in Minetest |
| 19:31 |
nejni-marji |
heh |
| 19:31 |
exio4 |
I haven't looked at the code for a while |
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exio4 |
actually, I need my psu :/ |
| 19:32 |
exio4 |
compiling here took like 40 minutes the last I tried |
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kaeza |
wasn't there a pull that bound commands to keys? |
| 19:36 |
exio4 |
;_; |
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exio4 |
I want to waste my time in something that is actually productive |
| 19:36 |
Calinou |
xdotool, nejni-marji |
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Calinou |
“xdotool type†is useful |
| 19:37 |
nejni-marji |
That's what I was trying to think of and couldn't remember. |
| 19:37 |
nejni-marji |
I have a friend hooked his computer up to have xdotool and ssh |
| 19:37 |
nejni-marji |
at the same time, you can do pretty much anything. |
| 19:38 |
kaeza |
nejni-marji, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1217 |
| 19:39 |
exio4 |
:( |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
how about we re-add this code by hand? |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
not guaranteed to work :( |
| 19:40 |
nejni-marji |
Sorry, never used GitHub before. What exactly does this mean? |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
due to the big mass of internal code changes |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
a pull request means “Hi, I have code, please merge it†|
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/spillz/minetest/commit/403794e3c31ee2df86cae1a3142d539c4c10f2bf |
| 19:40 |
nejni-marji |
Oh, okay. |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
this is a commit diff, where you see the difference between old and new |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
+ is added lines, - is removed lines |
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nejni-marji |
and this code in particular won't/doesn't work? |
| 19:41 |
Calinou |
internals of the engine have likely changed a lot in 7 months! |
| 19:41 |
Calinou |
so pasting the code as-is is unlikely to work |
| 19:41 |
nejni-marji |
oh, april 2014. |
| 19:41 |
nejni-marji |
I see. |
| 19:41 |
nejni-marji |
yeah |
| 19:42 |
nejni-marji |
but one could change it to make it work if they knew how to code C++. |
| 19:42 |
Calinou |
whee! my commit was added |
| 19:42 |
nejni-marji |
Which probably isn't hard. |
| 19:42 |
nejni-marji |
Oh? |
| 19:42 |
Calinou |
step smoothing was increased |
| 19:42 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/1c9f05d792562374046e74ad3eb75988d529b15c |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
I'm not sure exactly which recent commit/s did it, but it seems the hideously low FPS that was typical of the swapn area on VanessaE's survival server is gone |
| 19:56 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
previously I'd get around 10 or even down to 4 fps in that region, and I noticed earlier it was sticking to a solid 30 fps |
| 19:57 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
solid for my modest laptop. by comparison away from that area I get aroun 40-45 fps |
| 19:57 |
RealBadAngel |
ThatGraemeGuy, that issue is a) selections b) signs |
| 19:57 |
RealBadAngel |
its gonna be solved soon |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
ThatGraemeGuy: YOu believe it was something that was done on the client side then |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
for me still slow |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
whell I dont know |
| 19:58 |
RealBadAngel |
for sure i wont let 0.4.11 out without fixing that |
| 19:59 |
RealBadAngel |
disable hud, fancy trees etc and try to break fps records |
| 19:59 |
RealBadAngel |
its like 1500 fps by now :) |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
Megaf: all I know is its much improved for me, I won't go as far as to say its fixed as such, I don't have nearly enough information to make a claim like that |
| 19:59 |
Megaf |
RealBadAngel: Would it be asking too much for you to join my server and have a look at spawn? |
| 20:00 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
I'm not even sure when it changed, I only noticed it now |
| 20:00 |
Megaf |
I'd like some help on trying to figure out how I can improve the FPS there, please |
| 20:00 |
RealBadAngel |
Megaf, i know the problem |
| 20:00 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
| 20:00 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 4/10, 1/4 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / MegafXplore | Ping: 4ms |
| 20:00 |
RealBadAngel |
just give me some time |
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* ThatGraemeGuy |
joins quickly |
| 20:01 |
RealBadAngel |
wonders we code in no time, for miracles we do need a week or two ;) |
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* ThatGraemeGuy |
thinks "quickly" was perhaps the wrong word |
| 20:02 |
RealBadAngel |
indeed |
| 20:02 |
twoelk |
maybe all them rules typically found at spawn generate too much gravity and slooooooow down time there |
| 20:03 |
twoelk |
wich is actually the same as blaming it on the signs ;-P |
| 20:06 |
ThatGraemeGuy |
night night all |
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sfan5 |
exio4: meow, no |
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exio4 |
sfan5: why not? |
| 20:18 |
sfan5 |
because no |
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exio4 |
;_; |
| 20:18 |
exio4 |
bad cat |
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* exio4 |
pours lava over sfan5 |
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* sfan5 |
shrugs |
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* sfan5 |
enjoys the warm bath |
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* PenguinDad |
meows at exio4 |
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Jordach |
Penguins don't meow |
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* Jordach |
waits for the inevitable PenguinDad is now known as CatDad |
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PenguinDad |
Jordach: I'm half penguin and half cat |
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* Jordach |
wots and sits there waiting for Civ5 |
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* twoelk |
waits to see someone make a half pinguin half cat mob |
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catninja |
I'm waiting for a cat mod |
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twoelk |
hrmpf and ping goes the peng.... |
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* sfan5 |
gives twoelk an egg |
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* twoelk |
is hungry and eyeballs the egg with interest |
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Amaz |
cat mob!! |
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* Jordach |
has considered adding kitten saplings in BFD |
| 20:27 |
twoelk |
cattrees? |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
twoelk, nah |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
they spawn a kitty |
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* Amaz |
thinks Jordach should consider adding a cat mob to bfd |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
based on community skins |
| 20:27 |
twoelk |
kittentrees? |
| 20:27 |
Amaz |
And a dog mob |
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Jordach |
...or one could grow catnip and occasionally find a kitty near it |
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twoelk |
uh! mobs of dogs |
| 20:29 |
twoelk |
we do allready have cattails aka reedmace so they could randomely spawn some ... |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
i mean, every now and then an evergreen tree sapling might grow differently |
| 20:31 |
Jordach |
why not make trees rarely drop a kitten sapling |
| 20:31 |
Jordach |
i solved the issue of getting other seeds: kill dirt monsters as they will drop other plants |
| 20:32 |
twoelk |
sounds like a nice excuse to go for a hunt |
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nejni-marji |
It would give you a real reason to actually kill things. |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
and seeds, and fruits |
| 20:33 |
Jordach |
although the hybrid plant that drops a random seed + itself |
| 20:35 |
twoelk |
Catkin are called, if you translate, kittens in german, so we got lots of trees with kittens in late spring |
| 20:36 |
twoelk |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catkin |
| 20:37 |
gravgun |
twoelk: same goes in French, we call these "chatons" (kittens) |
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* PenguinDad |
plants some nepeta cataria in the channel |
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Jordach |
hmm, maybe one of the randomly spawned cats is a nyan cat |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
instead of a static block, it's an actual kitty |
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twoelk |
meow meow meow nyan meow meow |
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Jordach |
on the other hand i'd need kitty sounds |
| 20:43 |
sfan5 |
buy a cat |
| 20:43 |
twoelk |
a happy go lightly nyan kitty roaming the server |
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PenguinDad |
lol http://www.nyan.cat/daft |
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* twoelk |
is staring at his CAD drawing and realizes it is finished, it is done, he may go home now - nyannyannyan |
| 20:47 |
nejni-marji |
Nothing is ever done. |
| 20:48 |
twoelk |
well it will be next week until the client wants me to add more stuff or complains otherwise |
| 20:49 |
nejni-marji |
true |
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| 20:50 |
twoelk |
so nyan nyan nyan goes my car of to a sunny weekend of enjoying the first christmas markets and their Gluehwein |
| 20:51 |
nejni-marji |
I should probably go start making dinner. My family always makes a chicken for thanksgiving, instead of a turkey. |
| 20:52 |
twoelk |
that would maybe be mulled wine in english, never tried that in England though |
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FR^2 |
Glühwein :) Feuerzangenbowle :) |
| 20:55 |
twoelk |
not the same |
| 20:55 |
twoelk |
both can be gooood though |
| 20:56 |
hawk666 |
anyone want to check my server out ? 24/7 hosted in a data centre light role play 167.114.71.42:30000 huge city with plots for players to build in the city |
| 20:58 |
* twoelk |
is still considering that lakeside situation on said server but has still to come up with an interesting idea |
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* twoelk |
investigates sources on the grand stairs of odessa, leading down to the harbour |
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mitrom |
Hi |
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mitrom |
Morning |
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Inocudom |
There is an issue in the latest development version of Minetest, Sokomine. |
| 22:28 |
Inocudom |
The update.camera setting is broken, thus it turns itself off on its own, even on servers. |
| 22:29 |
Inocudom |
I can tell that this is so because of the fact that chunks simply stop appearing even though the servers are running fine. |
| 22:30 |
Inocudom |
Jordach, have you noticed the issue with camera.update that I mentioned above? |
| 22:31 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
| 22:32 |
Megaf |
Inocudom: its not broken, the setting is to be off if you are using a release build |
| 22:32 |
Megaf |
it will go one only if you use a debug build |
| 22:32 |
Megaf |
john_minetest: Hi |
| 22:33 |
Megaf |
john_minetest: you should have told me his name... |
| 22:33 |
Megaf |
whats his nick? |
| 22:33 |
* Jordach |
waits for Civ5 to load |
| 22:33 |
Inocudom |
Megaf: Yes, but I keep ending up with chunks simply ceasing to appear, and I am using a normal development build. |
| 22:33 |
Megaf |
Inocudom: might be a servers fault, like overlaoded or too slow or badly configured |
| 22:34 |
Megaf |
try single player Inocudom |
| 22:35 |
Megaf |
john_minetest: He will not grief, will he? |
| 22:35 |
catninja |
23:26 < LOTT> <randomgreen> what does the pipe weed look like? |
| 22:36 |
catninja |
rrr |
| 22:36 |
catninja |
http://forum.lordofthetest.se/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6&p=16#p16 |
| 22:36 |
* mitrom |
is browsing irc logs |
| 22:36 |
catninja |
Lott have its on forum! |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
john_minetest: done |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
He was granted interact |
| 22:37 |
Inocudom |
Megaf: Not happening yet. Maybe the issue is the server that I was on? It was ShadowNinja's Create Server (now owned by OldCoder.) |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
You're welcome |
| 22:38 |
Megaf |
Inocudom: What you describes looked like as your connection to the server was interrupted |
| 22:42 |
Inocudom |
Might have been the case. Megaf, you are a server owner. Would you or CraigyDavi be able to host one for Freeminer? Perhaps with one of Minetest's sub-games (like Voxelands or Dreambuilder?) |
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Megaf |
I'm afraid I can't, I can hardly maintain my server |
| 22:43 |
Megaf |
And I mught have to shut it down because I'm unemployed |
| 22:43 |
casimir |
Inocudom, it is not called Voxelands. |
| 22:44 |
Inocudom |
Voxelgarden it is. |
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CraigyDavi |
Inocudom, Yep |
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Inocudom |
CraigyDavi: Megaf can't host a server for Freeminer right now, but are you able to? I recommend using one of Minetest's sub-games if you do so that you won't have to deal with flowing dirt/sand/gravel. |
| 22:51 |
mitrom |
You guys need a server? |
| 22:51 |
mitrom |
I have a google 12Gb ram instance I don't need |
| 22:51 |
Inocudom |
Do consider however that only Freeminer players can link to Freeminer servers. |
| 22:52 |
CraigyDavi |
Of course, I should have it up at servers.freeminer.org within the next few days |
| 22:52 |
Inocudom |
mitrom: If you are willing to create a server for Freeminer, that would be appreciated. |
| 22:52 |
mitrom |
I would, but I'm afraid it expires in ~30 days |
| 22:52 |
mitrom |
I think that's enough |
| 22:53 |
CraigyDavi |
Yeah I think people want a server which will last longer than that. |
| 22:53 |
mitrom |
yeah well |
| 22:53 |
Inocudom |
Well, mitrom, this is Freeminer's website: http://freeminer.org/ |
| 22:53 |
mitrom |
Thanks |
| 22:54 |
mitrom |
So should I make one? |
| 22:54 |
mitrom |
Any point if it's for only 30 days? |
| 22:54 |
Inocudom |
Give it a look sometime. You might find the fork of Minetest to be worthwhile. |
| 22:54 |
mitrom |
ALright |
| 22:55 |
mitrom |
I can't do anything currently |
| 22:55 |
mitrom |
I'll take a look when my main PC is fixed |
| 22:55 |
Inocudom |
mitron: If its for 30 days, then it would probably be suitable only for testing. Currently, only the developers of Freeminer have servers for it, and those ones are bland. |
| 22:56 |
mitrom |
alrighty |
| 22:56 |
mitrom |
Well |
| 22:56 |
mitrom |
I'm getting a job so I may get a proper google server |
| 22:57 |
mitrom |
currently I own 5 |
| 22:59 |
mitrom |
5 other ones |
| 22:59 |
mitrom |
no charge whatsoever |
| 23:05 |
mitrom |
hmm |
| 23:05 |
mitrom |
What about 512M 4 cores ? |
| 23:06 |
mitrom |
sudo shred -vuzn 6 /dev/disk/by-uuid/87239a97-c5a4-4a87-b545-606ffbff926c |
| 23:07 |
mitrom |
mit pentius:~$ sudo shred -vuzn 8 /dev/disk/by-uuid/87239a97-c5a4-4a87-b545-606ffbff926c |
| 23:07 |
mitrom |
Killed |
| 23:07 |
mitrom |
? |
| 23:07 |
Illyasviel |
Compared to minecraft how much power does minetest need? |
| 23:07 |
mitrom |
Very little from what I can tell |
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| 23:15 |
CraigyDavi |
Inocudom, check the server list :) |
| 23:16 |
Inocudom |
Freeminer, however, needs more power than Minetest does. Should still be less than Minecraft though. |
| 23:16 |
troller |
its configurable |
| 23:22 |
Inocudom |
CraigyDavi, I am now on that server. |
| 23:22 |
CraigyDavi |
Hold on, having some major problems |
| 23:24 |
Inocudom |
The server just stopped loading chunks all of a sudden. What happened? |
| 23:24 |
CraigyDavi |
Join #freeminer and I'll explain |
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