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[git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Split up mapgen.cpp 9e811a9 http://git.io/Jo2-_A (2014-11-01T13:16:23-04:00) |
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OldCoder |
earthquakes the game would shakes |
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the_kreator |
hi |
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[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Refactor the_game() to make it more understandable and maintainable. 429ecb2 http://git.io/pHJeJg (2014-11-02T02:18:25+01:00) |
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[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Modified dtime calculation method in limitFps() dfd15fd http://git.io/6l1jBw (2014-11-02T02:20:06+01:00) |
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Johngreat_IRC |
im in |
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Johngreat_IRC |
heeeeeeeey |
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Johngreat_IRC |
anyone here? |
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Johngreat_IRC |
GAH |
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Johngreat_IRC |
everyone, everyone |
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Johngreat_IRC |
isis.intra.net |
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Johngreat_IRC |
#isis.intra.net? |
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VanessaE |
you're on freenode |
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VanessaE |
missed. |
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Johngreat |
BOOM-A-BOOM |
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Johngreat |
BOOM |
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Johngreat |
HAMMER |
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Johngreat |
THOR |
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Johngreat |
BOOM |
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Johngreat |
eh? |
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Johngreat |
no.... |
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Zeno` |
Johngreat, I have you a link: http://tiny.cc/uwcoox |
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Johngreat |
right... |
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iqualfragile |
omgwut? did hell freeze over? the refractor commits were actually merged? |
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Zeno` |
seems VanessaE is asleep :( |
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Johngreat |
haha |
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VanessaE |
I'm asleep in the other channel :P |
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iqualfragile |
Zeno`: seems like she is not |
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Johngreat_Irc |
........... |
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Johngreat_Irc |
Zeno... lemme have it |
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Johngreat_Irc |
heloo? |
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DFeniks |
what exactly happens when you have huge latency (i think) and you drown ? but breath bubbles are not shown |
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DFeniks |
because something like that happens on moontes |
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DFeniks |
*moontest |
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DFeniks |
i think in minetest game that happens too if you disconnect in water |
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[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Fix unit tests failing if IPv6 not available 209c0dd http://git.io/ZVnA5Q (2014-11-02T02:27:26-05:00) |
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Zeno` |
roar! |
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Zeno` |
meow? |
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Zeno` |
whimper? |
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Krock |
sol_invictus, is the media of your server loaded from an other server? |
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sol_invictus |
Nope, still udp. |
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Krock |
hmm okay |
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sol_invictus |
How long does it take now? |
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Calinou |
when do we get a remote_media guide on wiki |
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Krock |
1.5 minutes.. |
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Krock |
and loading |
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Krock |
Calinou, is it required? UDP seems to work fine |
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Calinou |
it is slower |
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Calinou |
with remote_media you should never need 1.5 minutes |
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Krock |
remote_media servers get a flood of requests - minetest server can deal with it while some hosts don't |
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Krock |
95% loaded..c'mon |
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Calinou |
Dropbox can be your remote media server, in theory |
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Calinou |
some people have used it for Quake games :P |
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Krock |
and is it ressource intensive? |
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Calinou |
Dropbox will disable your public links in case of excessive traffic |
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Krock |
lel okay |
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Krock |
sol_invictus, stuck ad 95% :( |
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sol_invictus |
I don't get why is it so long for you |
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sol_invictus |
I remove the cache directory and it never takes minutes to load |
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sol_invictus |
I did it multiple times |
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Krock |
mhm |
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sol_invictus |
question: what happens if remote_media server is down? Would players be unable to receive media? |
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Krock |
yup. |
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Calinou |
isn't there a fallback? |
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sol_invictus |
Damn, that would suck. |
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sol_invictus |
I'll take a look at the code now. |
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Krock |
last time I checked it, there was no fallback |
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Krock |
lol even xanadu with its mobs loads faster than liberty land minetest :/ |
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Calinou |
[zzz] 19 of 5 players slept, skipping to day |
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Calinou |
bed mods are horribly buggy |
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Calinou |
I'll make beds purely decorative in Carbone… |
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Krock |
lel |
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kilbith |
which beds ? |
| 09:14 |
Calinou |
Carbone's beds |
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Calinou |
(from PilzAdam) |
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kilbith |
based on ? |
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kilbith |
ah |
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kilbith |
tried the BlockMen one ? |
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sol_invictus |
Krock, I guess xanadu doesn't have homedecor |
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sol_invictus |
No fallback there. ): |
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kilbith |
xanadu have homedeco |
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kilbith |
r |
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Krock |
my server has homedecor too.. just a very old version from last year :D |
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sol_invictus |
mm, Krock, maybe you will send me your debug log so I at least can take a look why it fails |
| 09:18 |
Krock |
log level 4? |
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sol_invictus |
yep |
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Krock |
haah ran out of memeory |
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Krock |
lel. seems like I always haven't had enough free memory. MT takes 800 MB |
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Krock |
works now |
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Krock |
no. timed out |
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sol_invictus |
I wonder why does it take so much ram... |
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sol_invictus |
I optimized most of the textures in my game |
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sol_invictus |
didn't touch separate mods though |
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Krock |
starts with 40 MB and increases fast to 600 MB |
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Krock |
looks like I time out at join |
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sol_invictus |
888M for me |
| 09:25 |
Krock |
would be almost 1/2 of the total memory |
| 09:28 |
sol_invictus |
that's definitely too much \: |
| 09:30 |
Calinou |
there, beds in Carbone are now decorative due to having too many bugs. this also removes a globalstep |
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sol_invictus |
I did the same on my server |
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sol_invictus |
Krock: I'm recompiling with higher timeout right now |
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kilbith |
Krock : I beat you https://cdn.mediacru.sh/U9j3rv8fMmcV.png |
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Calinou |
font_shadow_alpha = 255 |
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Calinou |
more readable |
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Calinou |
:( when do you switch to Chromium? |
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kilbith |
never |
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kilbith |
don't care if Chrome is close, i'm not a terrorist |
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kilbith |
</troll> |
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Krock |
kilbith, ye sure. that's abit more than 1 MB |
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kilbith |
it was soon after the mesh changes |
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sol_invictus |
Krock: try again |
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Krock |
w8, getting newest MT binary |
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sol_invictus |
jeez |
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sol_invictus |
it's so much faster without all those mods |
| 10:00 |
sol_invictus |
left only the subgame and it takes only 330M |
| 10:00 |
RealBadAngel |
krock, at startup MT caches all the nodeboxes (turns them into meshes) |
| 10:00 |
RealBadAngel |
in case of dreambuilder that will require circa 0.5gb |
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Krock |
RealBadAngel, so it uses more or less memory than before? |
| 10:01 |
RealBadAngel |
you can turn that option off, but at cost of fps |
| 10:01 |
RealBadAngel |
more |
| 10:02 |
RealBadAngel |
enable_mesh_cache = false will turn it off |
| 10:03 |
Krock |
yeah. now I can do that but 10 minutes ago, I didn't have this commit in my build :P |
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Krock |
I'd like to have more free memory and more fps :) |
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Calinou |
would it be technically possible to save these meshes? |
| 10:04 |
Calinou |
are they cached to disk? |
| 10:04 |
Calinou |
<Krock> w8 |
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Calinou |
looks like Windows 8 to me |
| 10:05 |
Krock |
seems like they are cached to ram |
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Zeno` |
Calinou, wow... that seems like a good idea if possible |
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Krock |
Calinou, w-eight w-ait |
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Krock |
sol_invictus, still timing out :3 |
| 10:06 |
Krock |
but I see my house |
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sol_invictus |
Krock: ._. |
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sol_invictus |
so, now you are timing out while connected? |
| 10:08 |
Krock |
yes |
| 10:08 |
Krock |
I see the status message and time out some seconds later |
| 10:10 |
Krock |
!tell kwolekr Is there gonna be a change in the Lua api to use (no)eased 3d noise? (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/b994a7af1) |
| 10:10 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: I'll pass that on when kwolekr is around |
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sol_invictus |
Krock, I don't know how to debug this \: |
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RealBadAngel |
Calinou, theyre cached with all possible rotations in ram |
| 10:12 |
Krock |
all possible rotations? eh. why not only those which are used? |
| 10:12 |
RealBadAngel |
so drawtype mesh (and converted nodebox) is the fastest drawtype |
| 10:13 |
RealBadAngel |
Krock, how could you tell which ones are used? :) |
| 10:13 |
Krock |
RealBadAngel, I don't know much about this but if all rotations are in RAM - how many would that be? 64? |
| 10:14 |
RealBadAngel |
24 |
| 10:14 |
Krock |
sill many :/ |
| 10:14 |
RealBadAngel |
and 6 for wallmounted |
| 10:15 |
RealBadAngel |
0.5gb is next to nothing nowadays (and remember its dreambuilder) |
| 10:15 |
RealBadAngel |
it still have way too much nodedefs (wires, tubes etc) |
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RealBadAngel |
anyway you can turn caching off, meshes will be still faster than nodeboxes before |
| 10:18 |
RealBadAngel |
but if mt takes less than 2gb on 8 gb box (as in my case) theres a little point to do so |
| 10:19 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, about this picture https://cdn.mediacru.sh/U9j3rv8fMmcV.png |
| 10:20 |
someguy_irc |
RealBadAngel, http://www.realbadangel.pl/minetest/shaders/minetest-0.4.8-shaders.zip Not working. |
| 10:20 |
RealBadAngel |
i think that he doesnt realize the numbers |
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someguy_irc |
:p hi |
| 10:21 |
RealBadAngel |
Someguy_irc |
| 10:21 |
someguy_irc |
hmm. |
| 10:21 |
RealBadAngel |
oops. sorry. that domain is down since a yr or something |
| 10:21 |
Krock |
stairsplus and color machine might get interesting when enabling mesh caching |
| 10:21 |
someguy_irc |
Ok. |
| 10:21 |
someguy_irc |
so any latest builds ? |
| 10:21 |
someguy_irc |
That has a way to download? |
| 10:21 |
Krock |
yes |
| 10:22 |
Krock |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=42 |
| 10:22 |
RealBadAngel |
theres topic in forums with builds |
| 10:22 |
Krock |
ninja'd |
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someguy_irc |
ok thank you |
| 10:23 |
someguy_irc |
i dont see your build. |
| 10:24 |
RealBadAngel |
16777216 TB = 16384 PB = 16EB |
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RealBadAngel |
quite nice memory usage lol |
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someguy_irc |
.k |
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RealBadAngel |
someguy_irc, i dont do any builds |
| 10:25 |
someguy_irc |
ok. |
| 10:26 |
RealBadAngel |
get the latest one from others |
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Krock |
RealBadAngel, and how do you test your changes? |
| 10:28 |
Zeno` |
enable_mesh_cache = true |
| 10:29 |
RealBadAngel |
krock, by compiling and playing? ;) |
| 10:29 |
Krock |
<RealBadAngel>someguy_irc, i dont do any builds |
| 10:29 |
Krock |
or did you mean "I do not share them"? |
| 10:30 |
someguy_irc |
Krock, i am trying to download your MSVC build. |
| 10:30 |
someguy_irc |
there downloaded. |
| 10:30 |
RealBadAngel |
making a build for others and compiling on your own is quite different |
| 10:31 |
Krock |
not for me :3 |
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someguy_irc |
minetest_141102 is cool. |
| 10:31 |
Krock |
it's just a minetest 0.4.10-dev build from today |
| 10:32 |
someguy_irc |
the font and / size is good. |
| 10:33 |
* ElectronLibre |
has heard about a new version of Krock's dev build and goes downloading it. |
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someguy_irc |
ahm |
| 10:45 |
someguy_irc |
Krock? |
| 10:45 |
Krock |
someguy_irc? |
| 10:45 |
someguy_irc |
no sound in minetest_141102 |
| 10:45 |
someguy_irc |
:p downloaded from forums |
| 10:45 |
Krock |
I guess you need OpenAL |
| 10:45 |
someguy_irc |
AL? |
| 10:45 |
Krock |
!wiki Troubleshooting |
| 10:45 |
MinetestBot |
"This page lists common technical problems like crashes and error messages (enclosed in quotation marks) and possible solutions or explanations." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Troubleshooting |
| 10:46 |
someguy_irc |
.k |
| 10:46 |
Krock |
"There is no sound under Windows" |
| 10:46 |
someguy_irc |
http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/oalinst.exe|oalinst.exe http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/oalinst.exe|oalinst.exe |
| 10:46 |
someguy_irc |
oops |
| 10:46 |
someguy_irc |
Access forbidden ^ |
| 10:47 |
Krock |
or - is the sound volume too low? |
| 10:47 |
someguy_irc |
100%. |
| 10:47 |
someguy_irc |
Pc volume also max. |
| 10:47 |
someguy_irc |
there is sound in the official build. |
| 10:47 |
Krock |
okay |
| 10:49 |
Krock |
found this one: http://www.gog.com/forum/system_shock_2/newer_openal_version_available_here |
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someguy_irc |
ok |
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someguy_irc |
i am installing it |
| 10:51 |
Megaf |
root BigSam:/home/megaf# uptime |
| 10:51 |
Megaf |
08:51:15 up 55 days, 1:10, 1 user, load average: 0.22, 0.07, 0.06 |
| 10:51 |
Megaf |
whoah |
| 10:51 |
someguy_irc |
yep its working now |
| 10:51 |
someguy_irc |
thats Krock |
| 10:51 |
Krock |
*thanks |
| 10:51 |
Krock |
np |
| 10:54 |
Zeno` |
55 days? |
| 10:54 |
Zeno` |
for you server? |
| 10:54 |
Megaf |
Zeno`: my server is 50 days, 55 days is my desktop |
| 10:55 |
Zeno` |
cool |
| 10:55 |
Megaf |
they both could have a 3 months uptime, but I restarted them because of a kernel upgrade |
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SylvieLorxu |
Pfff, updates |
| 10:55 |
Zeno` |
I remember the days when I had a linux server up for over 18 months |
| 10:55 |
Megaf |
well, that's not my server anymore, since I moved my minetest server to UK |
| 10:55 |
SylvieLorxu |
Cool people run Linux 2.3.5 on their servers and never update |
| 10:55 |
SylvieLorxu |
:P |
| 10:55 |
Zeno` |
these days... don't care much heheh |
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someguy_irc |
oh lol |
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someguy_irc |
i did not notice that typo .-. |
| 10:56 |
Megaf |
total: 1620.42 KB/s |
| 10:56 |
Megaf |
Dat speed |
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someguy_irc |
hai Megaf |
| 10:56 |
Megaf |
H someguy_irc |
| 10:56 |
Megaf |
Hi* |
| 10:56 |
someguy_irc |
XD |
| 10:56 |
someguy_irc |
Typo week. |
| 10:56 |
Megaf |
1.6 MB/s backing up from my server in UK to my desktop in Brazil |
| 10:57 |
Megaf |
not too bad |
| 10:57 |
Krock |
still, slow. might take 10 minutes for a regular world |
| 11:00 |
Megaf |
yep |
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Megaf |
I wonder if using compression would do any better |
| 11:01 |
Megaf |
(rsync -azv -e "-C") |
| 11:02 |
Megaf |
The only thing that really bothers me is how fast and how big rollback.sqlite grows |
| 11:07 |
Megaf |
backup finished |
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Megaf |
sent 1346334028 bytes received 801887 bytes 1465074.40 bytes/sec |
| 11:07 |
Megaf |
total size is 2647187591 speedup is 1.97 |
| 11:15 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Megaf |
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Megaf |
Hi sfan5 :) |
| 11:16 |
sfan5 |
Hi |
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Megaf |
!up mt.megaf.info 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
mt.megaf.info:30003 is up (631ms) |
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PenguinDad |
Zeno`: could it be possible that you somehow broke the fps limiting? |
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Megaf |
sfan5: there is something not quite right with the ping. The way it measures the ping |
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Megaf |
take a look |
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Megaf |
!up 178.79.130.6 30003 |
| 11:22 |
MinetestBot |
178.79.130.6:30003 is up (2ms) |
| 11:22 |
Megaf |
same server |
| 11:22 |
sfan5 |
the name resolution is included in the ping |
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sfan5 |
it shouldn't take that long to resolve a name though |
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sfan5 |
!py __import__("os").popen("time dig +short mt.megaf.info A").read() |
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MinetestBot |
'' |
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* PenguinDad |
wonders why his computer is so silent |
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sfan5 |
huh? |
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Megaf |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (363ms) |
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Megaf |
mt.megaf and minetest.megaf are cnames to the server IP |
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sfan5 |
!py __import__("os").popen("bash -c time dig +short mt.megaf.info A 2>&1").read().replace("\t"," ") |
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MinetestBot |
'\nreal 0m0.000s\nuser 0m0.000s\nsys 0m0.000s\n' |
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sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
thats not 629ms |
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sfan5 |
!up mt.megaf.info 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
mt.megaf.info:30003 is up (613ms) |
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Zeno` |
PenguinDad, I don't think so, but.... |
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Zeno` |
actually I'm 99% sure that I didn't |
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Megaf |
I need people to join my server and tell me if the world loading speed is good enough |
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Megaf |
(it's no longer ARM, now it's intel Xeon) |
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Calinou |
<SC-Survival> <bluejay> this is not minecraft omfg |
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Calinou |
discovery of the year |
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Calinou |
350 games played on Lichess |
| 11:43 |
PenguinDad |
Breaking News: Minetest is not Minecraft! |
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Zeno` |
what?! |
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Zeno` |
stop kidding around PD |
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* Zeno` |
yawns |
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Zeno` |
9:50PM and I am ready for bed... I must be getting old :( |
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CaveJohnson |
hi :) |
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Johngreat_Irc |
uh... |
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Zeno` |
lol Johngreat_Irc :) |
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PenguinDad |
I are C! |
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PenguinDad |
:D |
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Johngreat_Irc |
how do i go to the RIGHT one |
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Zeno` |
C is for Cookie! |
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Johngreat_Irc |
:) |
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Johngreat_Irc |
? |
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Zeno` |
Johngreat_Irc, show me the link you used :p |
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Johngreat_Irc |
i dont have it |
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Zeno` |
that will make things tricky |
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Johngreat_Irc |
gah.... |
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Zeno` |
one sec :p |
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Johngreat_Irc |
how do i go to the right one? |
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Johngreat_Irc |
:P |
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Johngreat_Irc |
:) |
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Zeno` |
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.inchra.net/?nick=Johngreat_|?#minetest |
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Johngreat_Irc |
:> |
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Johngreat_Irc |
:>) |
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Zeno` |
hmm |
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Zeno` |
perhaps I should have given him a better link |
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oteta |
Hello all. Having trouble starting the game. Can someone help, please. |
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CraigyDavi |
Do you get any errors in the log? |
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oteta |
Thanks for the reply. One moment. |
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oteta |
I have 'Enable Damage' checked. I click 'New'. I type a World name. Seed is blank. Magpen is v6. minetest is selected. Nothing happens. |
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oteta |
We're relatively new, btw. |
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oteta |
If it wasn't obvious! |
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oteta |
I get taken back to the first screen. |
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jin_xi |
world creation and game start are seperate steps |
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oteta |
Please explain, jin. |
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jin_xi |
did you select your world and click play? |
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oteta |
Reinstalling the game. I thought I was trying to create a new world with the steps above. |
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oteta |
CragyDavi: How do I access the log? |
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Krock |
open debug.txt with an editor |
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oteta |
Krock: Searched the minetest folder and my entire computer, and I did not find such a file. Any thoughts, please? |
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ElectronLibre |
If you're using linux it's in ~/.minetest |
| 15:00 |
Krock |
> Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1; |
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Krock |
not linux |
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Krock |
go into the bin folder |
| 15:00 |
Krock |
and there should be the debug.txt |
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oteta |
Krock: I'm on win 7. No debug.txt file in bin, unfortunately. |
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Krock |
oteta, that's strange. when you run minetest.exe, what exactly happens? |
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PenguinDad |
What a scary halloween costume D: http://imgur.com/gallery/Q02Lmcl |
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oteta |
I have 'Enable Damage' checked. I click 'New'. I type a World name. Seed is blank. Magpen is v6. minetest is selected. Nothing happens. Takes me back to the first screen. |
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oteta |
, Krock. |
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Krock |
oteta, press the icon on bottom left of this main menu |
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oteta |
Krock: The minetest icon? |
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Krock |
oteta, yes. |
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oteta |
Done. |
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Jordach |
if you ain't seeing clouds |
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Jordach |
then you've not selected the correct game |
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oteta |
Krock, Jordach: seeing clouds. |
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Krock |
oteta, you're sure you created the world? |
| 15:10 |
oteta |
K, J: That's the thing. I think I'm not able to create a world. |
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Jordach |
#do you or do you not have write access |
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oteta |
K: write access? |
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Jordach |
eg able to create files in a directory |
| 15:11 |
oteta |
Yes, I should. |
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oteta |
Do it all the time. |
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oteta |
How can I check if there is some issue there? Thanks for the help, folks. |
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oteta |
I wonder if this is an issue with my having selected 32 bit software v 64. |
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SylvieLorxu |
PenguinDad: http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aoZy3d3_460s.jpg |
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PenguinDad |
lol |
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oteta |
Krock, Jordach: downloading 64 bit version. |
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_Esteban |
Hai @everyone |
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oteta |
Hai Esteban. |
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oteta |
Krock, Jordach, Jin, Craig: That resolved the issue. Thank you. |
| 15:42 |
Krock |
np. |
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Krock |
_Esteban, ragequit? (Because lol.) |
| 15:43 |
_Esteban |
no! xD |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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_Esteban |
I was a texture pack :P |
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_Esteban |
testing* |
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Jordach |
sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/ZT2jVRu.jpg |
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Jordach |
!cat pls |
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MinetestBot |
http://i.imgur.com/iATkdQO.jpg |
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* _Esteban |
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PenguinDad |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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* PenguinDad |
tells _Esteban that he should use /away |
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* _Esteban |
says thanks! |
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CaveJohnson |
exio4: hi |
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CaveJohnson |
exio4: wanna play MT? |
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paramat |
Sokomine, so far i have this https://gist.github.com/paramat/7b0afbf9c23281366390 untested and needs integration into mg_villages |
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Jordach |
how to OpenSim model with ecutruin |
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Jordach |
failures |
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hunterx689 |
uh.. hello? |
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[git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Include mg_decoration.h, mg_ore.h from emerge.cpp to fix warnings 8040806 http://git.io/MH52NA (2014-11-02T17:52:30+01:00) |
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Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/uPap8f5iO5oA.png |
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[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Cleanup and (mostly) document util/string.h and (very) minor refactoring 43bf432 http://git.io/pYDlVA (2014-11-02T18:07:20+01:00) |
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VanessaE |
sol_invictus: continue over here. |
| 17:31 |
sol_invictus |
is your script released? |
| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
no |
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VanessaE |
it's just something I use locally once in a while. |
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sol_invictus |
I think we need some advanced script published |
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sol_invictus |
for example it should compare sizes afterwards and revert if it didn't help |
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sol_invictus |
VanessaE, what is the benefit of pngcrush over optipng? |
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VanessaE |
it's just what I'm used to. |
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sol_invictus |
ah |
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sol_invictus |
never used pngcrush myself |
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sol_invictus |
I think I will try making some script for this |
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sol_invictus |
will post link here |
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Calinou |
OptiPNG is overall very efficient |
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Calinou |
it only compresses if needed |
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Calinou |
you can multi-thread it by hand (spawn several processes on several files) |
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exio4 |
>multithread by hand |
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VanessaE |
xargs. |
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exio4 |
multi4thread (spawn several 4processes) |
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sol_invictus |
uh-uh |
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VanessaE |
there we go, figured it out. |
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sol_invictus |
I'm using parallel |
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VanessaE |
commit incoming. |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
done. |
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VanessaE |
I REALLY wish github would knock it off with this shit where it won't show the whole diff anymore |
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Krock |
it's useful. |
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sol_invictus |
commits with media are very slow for my anyway so don't care |
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VanessaE |
http://pastebin.com/SPg8iM3E |
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VanessaE |
there's the script. |
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sol_invictus |
that's actually basic |
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VanessaE |
I'm sure it can be done better, that's been sorta cobbled together from a lot of trial and error. |
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sol_invictus |
I don't get one thing though: why d you need sorting? |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
visual reasons |
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VanessaE |
so I can see as it runs through the list if it's close to the end |
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sol_invictus |
makes sense |
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VanessaE |
I could probably have added a percent complete feature |
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VanessaE |
since I would have had the list from the `find` command already |
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sol_invictus |
there is --eta option in parallel |
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sol_invictus |
I think parallel is the best tool for batch threaded operations |
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Partmedia |
hi there, in the latest git revision of minetest the main-menu server config dialog has a "Hide Game" and "Hide mp content" -- they seem to be mutually exclusive. Is this a bug? |
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VanessaE |
no clue there |
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Partmedia |
anyone use that dialog, btw? :p |
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Partmedia |
To me it doesn't seem that they should be mutually exclusive, so I suspect something wrong with the formspec interface |
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Calinou |
sadly, neither are persistent |
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Calinou |
I would really like if game content was hidden by default |
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Partmedia |
(same :p) |
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Krock |
cookies! http://imgur.com/gallery/ho8IP |
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sfan5 |
!cats |
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LandMine |
Good afternoon peeps |
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sfan5 |
!cat |
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MinetestBot |
http://i.imgur.com/7jtdgLn.jpg |
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sfan5 |
Krock: ^ cats |
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Krock |
rrrr |
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Krock |
cats + cookies |
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LandMine |
!landmine |
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LandMine |
:( |
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Krock |
!doge |
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MinetestBot |
http://i.imgur.com/v7gjzme.jpg |
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Calinou |
on website: http://minetest.net/IRC |
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Calinou |
can you mention #minetest-fr, the French channel? |
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kwolekr |
. |
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Krock |
weird. I thought I gave MTB a !tell task |
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ReaLM |
!landmine |
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Krock |
lol |
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ReaLM |
why doesnt it like me :( |
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Krock |
!tnt |
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FourFire |
Greetings! |
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Krock |
!sgniteerG |
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PenguinDad |
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/can-you-repeat-the-part-of-the-stuff.jpg :D |
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Krock |
hhahaha |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: Exterminate the non-brightness! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByU28TbIMAEadKT.jpg |
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Krock |
ye ye darkness liminator |
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FourFire |
PenguinDad: I prefer this one: http://www.wickedlasers.com/torch |
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PenguinDad |
FourFire: I'd guess that one's illegal in my country :D |
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FourFire |
heh |
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FourFire |
so tell me about minetest please |
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FourFire |
is it more optimized than minecraft? |
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VanessaE |
it's written in C++ and uses Lua for the modding language |
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VanessaE |
so to say that it's "more optimized" probably misses the point a bit |
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VanessaE |
it is an open source equivalent engine, with the default game having similar gameplay to Minecraft. |
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VanessaE |
the rest is up to you, like with those choose-your-own-adventure novels :) |
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hmmmm |
lol http://fpaste.org/147272/41495448/ |
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Calinou |
don't laugh at these people either |
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Calinou |
oh, this is unrelated |
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Calinou |
please don't spread it anyway |
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hmmmm |
a 419 scam using 419 scams as their catch |
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Calinou |
419? |
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exio4 |
wow damn |
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exio4 |
that one is nice |
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VanessaE |
now I've seen it all heh |
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hmmmm |
yeah, that's what they call the "hi we have <zillions of dollars> to give you from our late prince of africa! just give us some funds up front and we'll start the process..." |
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Calinou |
where does the 419 come from |
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VanessaE |
Calinou: it's a national law code in Nigeria. |
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hmmmm |
I think that's the penal code number for one of the african countries it happens most often in |
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VanessaE |
refers in fact to that specific type of scam I believe |
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hmmmm |
http://fougasse.at.cynigram.com/~nfontes/wise_music_crew_beware_ebola.mp3 |
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hmmmm |
beware! beware! of ebola! ebola! |
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hmmmm |
takin' safety precautions erryday' |
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VanessaE |
Calinou: http://www.419eater.com/html/419faq.htm |
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hmmmm |
silly africans making rap songs about ebola |
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PenguinDad |
'The number "419" refers to the article of the Nigerian Criminal Code dealing with fraud.' Wikipedia |
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ReaLM |
yes 419 is the code for scams |
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VanessaE |
(also lots of funny-as-hell stories on that site about scams like that) |
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Calinou |
.mp3… |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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CraigyDavi |
I got a similar email today: http://pastie.org/pastes/9691801/text?key=nyh1vlxmhse7qnxghbbyw |
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CraigyDavi |
Who would honestly believe that? |
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blaise |
why would someone connect and disconnect like 90 times in a minute to a minetest server? |
| 19:32 |
ElectronLibre |
To create some flood in the chat? |
| 19:32 |
blaise |
I feel like maybe there could need to be some kind of protection against that |
| 19:32 |
PenguinDad |
blaise: because of bad connection maybe? |
| 19:33 |
Krock |
!c 90 / 60 |
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MinetestBot |
1.5 |
| 19:33 |
Krock |
1.5 connections per second. that's not human |
| 19:33 |
Calinou |
anti-spam in Lua should be doable, blaise |
| 19:33 |
blaise |
maybe 5 reconnects in under a minute = 10 minute ip blacklist |
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ElectronLibre |
I think it can be created, in a mod which register all the connections and disconnections, if there are too many of them for one player in a duration, the mod ban him. |
| 19:34 |
blaise |
xban might have this, actually |
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kaeza |
nope |
| 19:34 |
blaise |
that or the one that monitors how many characters/logins are allowed per ip |
| 19:35 |
ElectronLibre |
Does this player use different logins? |
| 19:35 |
Calinou |
check the IP, not username |
| 19:35 |
Calinou |
blaise, names_per_ip by Krock |
| 19:35 |
Calinou |
included in Carbone (default limit 4) |
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Calinou |
this is total IPs per account, no rate-limiting |
| 19:36 |
blaise |
ah |
| 19:36 |
blaise |
I think I changed it to 3 names per ip |
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ElectronLibre |
You can change an IP (not in a minute), but it's still a very good solution. |
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Calinou |
3 may be a problem if there are 4 PCs on the same network with a NAT router |
| 19:37 |
blaise |
kaeza: negative, just one user |
| 19:37 |
Calinou |
“I swear, it's my 11 brothers and sisters!!!†|
| 19:37 |
blaise |
Calinou: I wonder why it's not based on MAC address? |
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ElectronLibre |
Here there are at leat 80 siblings, it's huge. |
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Calinou |
how would you get MAC address in Minetest? |
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Calinou |
obvious privacy violation |
| 19:38 |
ElectronLibre |
blaise, does minetest API allow to get MAC adress? |
| 19:38 |
blaise |
well then that throws tcp/ip out the window, due to privacy violations |
| 19:38 |
blaise |
so we're going to have to find a different network protocol |
| 19:39 |
ElectronLibre |
You can use IP yes, because you can hide/change it. |
| 19:39 |
Warr1024 |
savvy users will just change their mac addresses at random |
| 19:39 |
blaise |
tcp/ip provides MAC |
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blaise |
that's how ISP's are able to keep people from stealing their service |
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Warr1024 |
wow, where'd you hear that one? |
| 19:40 |
blaise |
otherwise, anyone could just plug any equipment into their network and get an ip |
| 19:40 |
ElectronLibre |
Username might works perfectly, except if this player uses random nicknames like AEH82XD or something like that. |
| 19:41 |
blaise |
ElectronLibre: I have that one covered already |
| 19:41 |
Warr1024 |
blaise: that MAC layer is only good for the link between you and your ISP, and it's not usable by anyone else, like a remote server |
| 19:41 |
Warr1024 |
and besides, that MAC is tied to the IP address of the link, not to the individual user or even computer. |
| 19:42 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok. You can alse use IP, but you have to promise tu keep them private (default ban system use IP adresses and the API provides functions to get them). |
| 19:42 |
Warr1024 |
and it only applies to some link types like cablemodems |
| 19:42 |
Warr1024 |
IP is probably the best you'll get |
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Calinou |
“stealing†|
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Warr1024 |
unless someone wants to build a cryptographic proof of work algorithm into the client... |
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ElectronLibre |
*also ^ I agree with Warr1024. |
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blaise |
Warr1024: tell that to nmap |
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Calinou |
I hate proof of work algorithms |
| 19:42 |
Calinou |
they suck |
| 19:42 |
blaise |
lol |
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Calinou |
TeamSpeak has one… |
| 19:43 |
blaise |
and traceroute |
| 19:43 |
Calinou |
that's a proof of it sucking |
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blaise |
traceroute shows the ip, the mac, and the latency |
| 19:43 |
blaise |
and how many hops |
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Warr1024 |
blaise: traceroute is blocked by my network, as is most of the fingerprinting capabilities of nmap; all you need is a decent firewall. |
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blaise |
Warr1024: well then I suppose you only get to have access to around 10-15% of the internet, eh? |
| 19:44 |
Warr1024 |
proof-of-work algorithms are an interesting way to try to create fairness, but they sort of assume that everyone has comparable computing power, which is generally not the case. |
| 19:44 |
ElectronLibre |
(You just have to keep all you ports closed and it's fine) |
| 19:44 |
Calinou |
proof-of-work is disastrous for ecology |
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Warr1024 |
blaise: huh? No, I can access everything just fine, it's just traceroutes that are blocked. |
| 19:44 |
Warr1024 |
blaise: you don't really seem to understand how this stuff works, do you :-) |
| 19:44 |
Calinou |
before you say “no one caresâ€, it impacts hardware life span and power bill |
| 19:45 |
Warr1024 |
traceroute works by sending IP packets with low TTL |
| 19:45 |
blaise |
so you don't feel the need to check routes for youself at any point? |
| 19:45 |
Warr1024 |
they cause routers that drop them to send back an ICMP ttl exhausted message, which some routers put other info into... |
| 19:45 |
Warr1024 |
I haven't used a traceroute in over 10 years. |
| 19:45 |
Warr1024 |
didn't see the need to leave them unfiltered |
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Warr1024 |
and I would certainly not allow tracing INTO my network. |
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blaise |
meh, it's trivial |
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Warr1024 |
well, my point in all that was that you can't use it to identify individual users. |
| 19:47 |
blaise |
even if your machine times out, it gets every handoff up to your WAN device |
| 19:47 |
Warr1024 |
yeah, but behind the WAN device is a black-box |
| 19:47 |
Warr1024 |
so you can't identify individual users behind a single IP reliably |
| 19:48 |
blaise |
at this day in age if you don't have your own ip then something is wrong with you |
| 19:48 |
Warr1024 |
a decent firewall, which *should* be built into pretty much every cheapo router these days, will make everything look like it's just one machine. |
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blaise |
further more, NAT and firewalls are pointless with ipv6 |
| 19:48 |
Warr1024 |
blaise: you got it backwards. Individual IP's were back in the days before address space exhaustion. Now everybody tends to run NAT. |
| 19:48 |
blaise |
just disable the ports if you're worried about it. |
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Warr1024 |
ah, ipv6 is a whole 'nother story |
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ReaLM |
sthap!!!! |
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Warr1024 |
of course, the fact that I only have 1 IPv4 address isn't the only reason I NAT; there are privacy benefits too. |
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blaise |
encripted vpn |
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blaise |
s/i/y/ |
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Warr1024 |
if you're talking about one of those commercial ones, I wouldn't trust 'em; there's still a single point of failure. |
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excrafter |
I've been playing minecraft for years and just starting with minetest. Is there a directory of multiplayer servers? |
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blaise |
excrafter: yeah, actually.. there is |
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blaise |
is the client not showing the public servers after you check the public server box? |
| 19:55 |
ElectronLibre |
http://minetest.net/servers <== This should works. |
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excrafter |
I'll let you know after tha package installer is finished. ;) |
| 19:56 |
blaise |
I wonder if we'll ever get uri for minetest.. |
| 19:56 |
blaise |
minetest://midnightsystems.net |
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excrafter |
So what you're saying is that it's kinda like the server list in bzflag, no need to hunt them down on the web beforehand. Cool. |
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Warr1024 |
it's not hard to program a URI handler on any given platform, but I don't think any 2 platforms do it the same way, and that could be a lot of portability code to maintain... |
| 19:58 |
blaise |
excrafter: kinda.. when the server starts up and has been configured to be public, it reports to http://minetest.net/servers and is added to the list.. the minetest client can parse the information and populate the server list with it |
| 19:59 |
blaise |
it's server list, anyway |
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blaise |
not the public one |
| 20:01 |
blaise |
Warr1024: honestly, the windows platform is a sinking ship.. so I'm only worried about posix compliant environments |
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blaise |
which is basicly everything else. |
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excrafter |
oops. rying to get the server list crashed the client. terminate called after throwing an instance of 'LuaError' what(): C++ exception |
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blaise |
are you using minetest-0.4.10 ? |
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excrafter |
0.4.9+repack-4ubuntu1 is my version |
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Warr1024 |
blaise: it's a big ship, and has been sinking for a long time, and will probably keep sinking for quite some time yet... |
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* blaise |
facepalms |
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blaise |
Warr1024: it's a trap.. |
| 20:03 |
blaise |
Warr1024: like that weird creature on starwars said. |
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excrafter |
warr: What keeps windows up is a lot of hot air trapped in the bowels of the ship. That's the only thing fighting the ballast and barnacles. |
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Warr1024 |
yeah, but I don't see how that's different now than it ever was before |
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excrafter |
New captain is more drunk |
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blaise |
they're so caught up in intelectual property lawsuits, they don't even care about their operating systems anymore.. there's no money in it compared to what they make in legal disputes |
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blaise |
lets sue these people for using tech that we stole to begin with |
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Calinou |
“intellectual property†*cough* *cough*. |
| 20:06 |
blaise |
yeah, about that... |
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Krock |
http://87.110.8.195/minetest/?about |
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blaise |
Krock: is that thing nested in the lid of a shoebox? |
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Krock |
I guess so. |
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blaise |
cool! |
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hmmmm |
is that... mapgen v7? |
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hmmmm |
why are you doing that |
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hmmmm |
please add some biomes |
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Krock |
/not my server |
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Krock |
I've no idea who owns it |
| 20:11 |
hmmmm |
wow |
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hmmmm |
i never realized such a large amount of the land had such low persistence |
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Krock |
many oceans. yes |
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excrafter |
ok, got the minetestc55 package from ppa, and now I'm on mp :) |
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Jordach |
hmmmm, you should see BFD generated worlds |
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Calinou |
I told him to install an anti-guest mod, because really… |
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excrafter |
Don't these worlds generate grass and trees by default, or do I have to go creative? |
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ElectronLibre |
The tree/grass generation is done by default.. |
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excrafter |
I've generated three different worlds, and each is just a grey expanse of stone. |
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* ElectronLibre |
has added an extra point. |
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Calinou |
don't use v7 mapgen, excrafter |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
except if you supply bioems yourself |
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Calinou |
use v6 |
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ElectronLibre |
You don't need to do anything if you're using the mgV6 to generate trees, caves, grass, etc... |
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excrafter |
Ok, got it. The forst MP world I went to must have also been on v7 |
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ElectronLibre |
V7 generates stone, ores, caves and water. V6 generates deserts, beaches, jungles (if added in the mg_flags), etc... |
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excrafter |
Well, I'd rather it be Python/Pygame, but I can definitely see myself learning some Lua for this. Microsoft can keep MC. |
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ElectronLibre |
Welcome to Minetest. |
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MinetestForFun |
Excrafter, i like your sentence :D |
| 20:57 |
MinetestForFun |
Welcome ! |
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excrafter |
ty |
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* excrafter |
has to not type t in the game to say that though :) |
| 20:59 |
* ElectronLibre |
sometimes type a T in IRC to write a message xD. |
| 21:01 |
blaise |
I've always hit F10 for the console |
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blaise |
yikes, libtool failed |
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blaise |
that's not good... |
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ElectronLibre |
When I had to change my keymapping (bugs beetween mouse clicking and walk, could not use both of them in the time), I kept some keys like T and F10, they are become habits to me. |
| 21:03 |
blaise |
so what was said about when we might expect minetest-0.4.11 ? some time in spring 2044? |
| 21:04 |
ElectronLibre |
It's planned for this month apparently. |
| 21:04 |
blaise |
o.O |
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blaise |
I wonder what's in the ChangeLog |
| 21:04 |
blaise |
XD |
| 21:04 |
ElectronLibre |
(That's just rumors, but I hope it's true) |
| 21:05 |
blaise |
seemed like someone was talking about ditching the 0.4.x, and their entire version tree.. and going to "minetest-5.x" |
| 21:05 |
ElectronLibre |
There are at least the meshnodes, and why not in few days or weeks, the animated ones. |
| 21:06 |
blaise |
that was when 0.4.9 was current though |
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blaise |
what's a mesh node? |
| 21:06 |
blaise |
bantam nodes? |
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ElectronLibre |
blaise, rumors again, nobody knows exactly (Perhaps even the dev-team) |
| 21:07 |
ElectronLibre |
Meshnode is an animation loaded for a node, used instead of nodeboxes (faster, and using less memory or CPU, I don't remember exactly). |
| 21:09 |
ElectronLibre |
You can create spheres, circular and diagonal surfaces with them. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Fix regression: mouse wheel couldn't scroll from last hotbar item to first 817e3a6 http://git.io/cGE1kQ (2014-11-02T21:59:56+01:00) |
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ElectronLibre |
Yes, it's fixed, I thought nobody noticed that (I did with latest krock build). |
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PenguinDad |
ElectronLibre: I noticed it too but I didn't really care about it |
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* blaise |
facepalms |
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iqualfragile |
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgyODQ |
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iqualfragile |
are you fucking shiting me? |
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FourFire |
damn |
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FourFire |
what happens if ever the systemd team breaks up? |
| 21:29 |
FourFire |
if they eat up everything? |
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LittleJoe |
anybody wanna answer an easy world edit question? |
| 22:07 |
LittleJoe |
lol not worldedit |
| 22:07 |
LittleJoe |
minetest mapper : D |
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ElectronLibre |
What question exactly? |
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LittleJoe |
about the geometry option |
| 22:08 |
LittleJoe |
--geometry -2000:-2000+4000+4000 |
| 22:08 |
LittleJoe |
exactly what those numbers translate into |
| 22:09 |
ElectronLibre |
I don't know enough about the mapper to help here, but I think it's to print only a rectangle of 2000 length and 4000 height or something like that. |
| 22:10 |
LittleJoe |
hmmm |
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LittleJoe |
so than how do you chose the position? : / |
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ElectronLibre |
By using -2000:-2000, you probably tell the mapper to start from -2000, ..., -2000. |
| 22:11 |
LittleJoe |
and I wonder how to get it to recognize modded nodes.... |
| 22:11 |
LittleJoe |
yeah : / |
| 22:11 |
ElectronLibre |
So by changing these you could probably change the position. |
| 22:11 |
LittleJoe |
: ) |
| 22:11 |
kilbith |
LittleJoe : https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5684 'Create your own overview maps' spoiler. |
| 22:12 |
ElectronLibre |
To recognize modded nodes, you have to add them to colors.txt with the color. |
| 22:12 |
LittleJoe |
ok |
| 22:12 |
LittleJoe |
just the pic file I assume |
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LittleJoe |
Q; where should I be able to find the colors? |
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ElectronLibre |
You choose the colors. |
| 22:15 |
LittleJoe |
ok |
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LittleJoe |
so the node name and colors : ) |
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ElectronLibre |
LittleJoe, yes, exactly. |
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LittleJoe |
what color code is it using? |
| 22:18 |
ElectronLibre |
Hexadecimal code I suppose. |
| 22:18 |
LittleJoe |
eh |
| 22:18 |
LittleJoe |
with no letters..... |
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ElectronLibre |
Bye everyone. |
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Calinou |
http://rogerdudler.github.io/git-guide/ |
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kilbith |
bookmarked, thx |
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Salbei |
hi |
| 22:45 |
Salbei |
few weeks ago someone help me for irc mod |
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Salbei |
im running minetest server on debian |
| 22:51 |
Salbei |
i know i have to modify something in irc/init.lua but I can't remeber what |
| 22:56 |
Salbei |
solved! |
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blaise |
I wonder what it was |
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