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* Fritigern |
has taken pics whilst mommy gave my daughter her very first solid food, mashed banana!!! http://67.170.30.149/P1060873_1280p.JPG |
00:09 |
Fritigern |
She was like "what the flip i this, mommy? I don;t know this! I like it, i will swallow it, i want more of it, but what is this?" |
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VanessaE |
Fritigern: awwwwww |
00:13 |
VanessaE |
she's adorable :D |
00:13 |
Fritigern |
I was so excited to give her her first solids. I felt she's been ready for some time now (she's 6 months old) and now we've finally did it ;-) |
00:15 |
Fritigern |
What you can not see in the pic, are her 5 teeth (and a molar is staring to pop through). She's developing so fast! |
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Fritigern |
She was just a week old when she first started to push her upper body up and look around. And at 3 months, she already insisted on trying to stand. Trying, because she's still a few months away from doing that on her own :-) |
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VanessaE |
very nice |
00:22 |
VanessaE |
I think you'll be very proud :) |
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00:23 |
Fritigern |
I already am :-) |
00:23 |
VanessaE |
good :) |
00:23 |
jojoa1997 |
Hola |
00:23 |
jojoa1997 |
Hi VanessaE |
00:23 |
kaeza |
hola |
00:23 |
VanessaE |
hey jojo |
00:23 |
jojoa1997 |
yo kaeza |
00:23 |
jojoa1997 |
yo soy kaeza |
00:24 |
kaeza |
bien... creo |
00:25 |
Fritigern |
yo soy queso? |
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00:29 |
VanessaE |
kaeza soy grande queso ;) |
00:29 |
VanessaE |
fek, that came out wrong |
00:31 |
jojoa1997 |
queso? |
00:32 |
VanessaE |
cheese |
00:32 |
jojoa1997 |
XD |
00:32 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE is big cheese |
00:32 |
kaeza |
hello, big cheese...? |
00:32 |
jojoa1997 |
WAIT WAIT |
00:32 |
VanessaE |
kaeza is the big cheese |
00:33 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE is swiss cheese because she is "Holy" |
00:33 |
VanessaE |
hah |
00:33 |
VanessaE |
holy? me? HAH! |
00:33 |
jojoa1997 |
:3 |
00:38 |
Fritigern |
VanessaE: If kaeza is the bog cheese, then are you quesito, the little cheese? |
00:40 |
Fritigern |
bog? BIG!!! |
00:42 |
VanessaE |
HAHAH |
00:42 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: he don't know me very well, does he? ;) |
00:59 |
kaeza |
heh |
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OldCoder |
bog cheese would make one sneeze |
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01:19 |
jentron |
Does minetest run on oracle? |
01:20 |
OldCoder |
jentron, what is an Oracle? |
01:21 |
jentron |
A database engine. |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
Um, no |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
Do you mean |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
will it use Oracle as a backend? |
01:22 |
jentron |
Yes, that is what I meant |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
I don't think so, yet |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
The most common modes are SQLite3 and LevelDB |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
I can double check if it's important |
01:23 |
Zeno` |
You don't need to check because you're already right :) |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
Looks like there is talk of Oracle |
01:24 |
OldCoder |
Hm, wait |
01:24 |
OldCoder |
Upstream has an oracle setting but I've never heard of anybody trying it |
01:24 |
jentron |
:) I have to learn oracle at work, I'm trying to justify playing. :D |
01:24 |
OldCoder |
You could port |
01:24 |
OldCoder |
the game to oracle |
01:24 |
OldCoder |
and produce an Oracle related package |
01:25 |
OldCoder |
Surely this would justify a raise |
01:25 |
OldCoder |
Let me grep the source |
01:25 |
OldCoder |
The branch I have doesn't show it, jentron |
01:25 |
OldCoder |
You'd need to do the port |
01:25 |
OldCoder |
Couldn't |
01:25 |
OldCoder |
Couldn't hurt to ask |
01:25 |
OldCoder |
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01:27 |
jentron |
I don't think I could get paid to do the port... I need to learn oracle on my own time so I can do boring stuff with it, but that doesn't mean I have to do boring stuff while learning on my own |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
All right |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
Port might not be too difficult |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
If it is similar to SQL |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
jentron |
01:31 |
jentron |
Oracle runs vanilla SQL, with their own extensions tacked on, I think |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
then give it a try |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
People here will help |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
As it will extend the core |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
I can show you how to build |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
You will need Linux or UNIX |
01:32 |
jentron |
I've got linux... Server only runs on linux? |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
Hm? Minetest? Runs on most systems |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
Including Windows |
01:33 |
OldCoder |
But really easiest to work on under Linux |
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01:33 |
OldCoder |
Runs on Kindle for example |
01:33 |
jentron |
Doesn't run very well on my Samsung Note. |
01:33 |
* OldCoder |
is not familiar |
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01:34 |
OldCoder |
Anyway Linux should be fine |
01:34 |
jentron |
Railroad tracks extend to the sky and the touches really confuse it. |
01:34 |
OldCoder |
And can test against an Oracle server running on any LAN host |
01:34 |
* OldCoder |
has not worked on the mobile |
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01:35 |
jentron |
I'm in the process of pulling Oracle down now. My lan is very slow today |
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01:41 |
ExeterDad |
having trouble overlaying a 64px texture over a 16px default texture on a node. 16px base texture is completely covered as it appears only 16px of the overlay is used and there is no alpha in that area. tiles = {"base16px.png^overlay64px.png"} |
01:41 |
ExeterDad |
Any ideas? |
01:42 |
paramat |
probably necessary to convert the 64 texture to 16 |
01:42 |
ExeterDad |
That's a shame as the textures in the set are 64px |
01:43 |
paramat |
(or the 16 to 64) |
01:44 |
ExeterDad |
making more asphalt nodes for streetsmod. I want the aspalt with alpha to overlay whatever grass texture user has installed so it matches. |
01:48 |
paramat |
AFAIK texture overlay requires the same resolution, no way around that |
01:49 |
VanessaE |
there is no way around it, however there was at one time some intent on fixing that. |
01:49 |
ExeterDad |
I accept that. Was hoping it was not the case :( |
01:49 |
VanessaE |
no doubt RealBadAngel had some pull request pending that would auto-scale overlaid textures so that they all matched |
01:50 |
ExeterDad |
16px asphalt nodes will look like ass next to the asphalt in the mod LOL |
01:51 |
ExeterDad |
Resizing default grass might look okay if used, but horrible next to texturpack grass. I may of lost my motivation on this one. |
01:52 |
ExeterDad |
Thanks for the confirmation though |
01:53 |
ExeterDad |
btw... nice to see you guys in realtime :D |
01:55 |
Zeno` |
Is there any way to check the integrity of a leveldb database? |
02:01 |
paramat |
if you resize grass to 64, use no interpolation, then it will be visually identical to 16px grass |
02:02 |
paramat |
bbl |
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02:04 |
jentron |
Ug, cmake |
02:04 |
Fritigern |
jentron: It'd be compiled beofre you know it :-) |
02:04 |
jentron |
:P |
02:05 |
jentron |
I can't complain too much. MSVC/Visual Studio is next on the hit parade at work |
02:06 |
ExeterDad |
paramat, I might just do that for now and hope scaling is added in the near future. Thanks to you and VanessaE |
02:07 |
Fritigern |
jentron: I always use this script to build MT https://gist.github.com/Fritigern/4e21484ec27d6416cc49 |
02:09 |
jentron |
Now, what's my github password |
02:09 |
jentron |
? :D |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
password1. |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
:) |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
no, wait.. |
02:10 |
Fritigern |
I think it's qwerty |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
it's.. *looks& |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
1-2-3-4-5 |
02:11 |
Fritigern |
Mine is ******** |
02:12 |
Fritigern |
One of my minetest accounts for my own server has "0" as a password :-) |
02:12 |
Fritigern |
I just hope i will be able to remember that |
02:13 |
Fritigern |
BTW, jentron, you do not need a password to clone or pull code from Github |
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jentron |
Fritigern, true but I made a password last month to submit a patch to a project... |
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jentron |
I usually use gitorious |
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02:15 |
jentron |
So master is the dev head, and 0.4.10 lives in the stable-0.4 branch? |
02:15 |
VanessaE |
I believe so |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
How do I heal an injured sheep? |
02:18 |
OldCoder |
Heh. I added animals and the kids don't want a sheep to die. |
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02:19 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ever heal a sheep? ^ |
02:19 |
VanessaE |
er...I don't know if you can |
02:19 |
VanessaE |
maybe right click the sheep while wielding wheat? |
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VanessaE |
I think that feeds it |
02:20 |
VanessaE |
might be enough to heal it, idk for sure |
02:20 |
OldCoder |
We'll see |
02:20 |
OldCoder |
ty |
02:21 |
jentron |
I haven't had luck with the animals_modpack-2.4.2 |
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02:31 |
Fritigern |
I have a bit of a farming issue |
02:31 |
Fritigern |
Wheat refuses to be sown. I have wheat seeds, tilled dirt, well irrigated, but seeds will not sow |
02:32 |
VanessaE |
I've seen others mention this... |
02:32 |
VanessaE |
I wonder wtf is going on with this? |
02:34 |
VanessaE |
is that only with minetest_game or do you also have trouble in, say, dreambuilder? |
02:35 |
Fritigern |
I have it on my own server, which is based on minetest_game, added a little technic and a lot of myself. |
02:35 |
VanessaE |
hm. |
02:36 |
VanessaE |
well it works okay in Dreambuilder at least. :) |
02:36 |
Fritigern |
There are a total of 3 farming mods: farming, farmin_plus and hydro |
02:36 |
VanessaE |
(just checked) |
02:37 |
Fritigern |
Hydro refuses to grow too. I have a grow lamp, it's sown in promix, there's water under the promix, but it's not growing. Perhaps i should try disabling hydro and see if that fixes stuff? |
02:39 |
Fritigern |
Oh, i can;t right now, there are people online |
02:39 |
VanessaE |
I can confirm the problem with vanilla minetest_game |
02:40 |
Fritigern |
Ah, so it is also a vanilla issue then. That bites. |
02:40 |
VanessaE |
I believe with hydro, the trick is having the grow light exactly the right distance from the promix |
02:41 |
jentron |
What's the dev package for bzip2 on debian? |
02:41 |
VanessaE |
I seem to recall 3 or 4 meters. |
02:41 |
Fritigern |
Yeah there need to be 2 blocks between the promix and the bottom of the lamp |
02:41 |
Fritigern |
So a frame for the lam needs to be 4 nodes high |
02:42 |
VanessaE |
I am not sure why it's not working though in vanilla minetest_game |
02:42 |
VanessaE |
you'll have to file an issue about it |
02:43 |
VanessaE |
(the seeds I mean) |
02:43 |
VanessaE |
wait |
02:43 |
Fritigern |
I think i will remove hydro anyway, it only confuses people. They get seeds and try to plant them, not knowing that they also need promix and a grow lamp, then get annoyed, or die of hunger |
02:43 |
VanessaE |
they DO work |
02:43 |
VanessaE |
you have to place them and then they sow themselves after a bit |
02:44 |
Fritigern |
They get returned to my inventory, and then weed grows |
02:44 |
Fritigern |
instead of wheat |
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02:45 |
VanessaE |
lemme let this run for a few mins and see what it does |
02:46 |
VanessaE |
I wonder if the thing that appeared there was a weed also. |
02:46 |
Fritigern |
It could also be farming_plus that causes it, i would have to check and experiment |
02:47 |
VanessaE |
ok, I placed three seeds on irrigated, tilled soil. after a minute or so, two of them turned into some kind of plant. |
02:47 |
VanessaE |
the third is still waiting. |
02:47 |
Fritigern |
LOL! "Some kind of plant" Could be a venus fly trap :-) |
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02:48 |
* Zeno` |
eats it |
02:48 |
VanessaE |
I can't tell if these are wheat or just weeds, they're too small |
02:48 |
Zeno` |
nope doesn't taste like venus fly trap |
02:48 |
VanessaE |
but the wheat seeds definitely didn't return to my inventory |
02:48 |
Zeno` |
I feel a bit... weird |
02:48 |
Fritigern |
Hmmmm.... If you break one and you gt weed, then it is weed :-) |
02:48 |
deasanta |
lol you need pipeworks to tell the difference |
02:48 |
VanessaE |
maybe your copy of farming_plus is conflicting |
02:48 |
* VanessaE |
breaks one of them |
02:48 |
VanessaE |
I got nothing. |
02:48 |
Zeno` |
there is a thread on the forums about farming_plus and some things not working |
02:49 |
VanessaE |
it aint' weeds. |
02:49 |
Fritigern |
VanessaE: Then it was prolly wheat |
02:49 |
Fritigern |
It was too young to return any seeds |
02:49 |
Zeno` |
I don't think it's wheat.. I feel too good for it to have been wheat |
02:49 |
* VanessaE |
replants and waits a bit more. |
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02:50 |
Zeno` |
possibly I'm experiencing a placebo-like affect though |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
Zeno`: you prolly ate a 'shroom :P |
02:50 |
Fritigern |
LOL! |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
I TOLD you those green things were weird :P |
02:50 |
Zeno` |
maybe |
02:51 |
Fritigern |
Sometimes i feel like such a complainer, as if nothing is ever good enough. But then i remember that if i report an actual issue and it gts fixed, everyone benefits |
02:52 |
VanessaE |
Fritigern: those planted seeds are definitely growing taller. |
02:52 |
VanessaE |
so it IS working under vanilla minetest_game |
02:53 |
Fritigern |
I am currently talking to someone on Pacata, but once i am done, i will try different combinations of farming and food mods |
02:55 |
VanessaE |
ok |
03:04 |
Hobodium |
What light level does the overworld get on average at night? |
03:05 |
VanessaE |
3 or 4 I think |
03:07 |
Hobodium |
Thanks |
03:07 |
VanessaE |
Sep 29 2014 13:56:38 <Taoki> Anyone know what the moon's light level is? Like |
03:07 |
VanessaE |
, what's the light level of a node lit only by moon at midnight |
03:07 |
VanessaE |
Sep 29 2014 13:57:22 <Calinou> 4 or so |
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03:17 |
NANOsoldierEnke |
What's the method to replace the overwrite of something in the minetest_game with modded code? |
03:18 |
VanessaE |
NANOsoldierEnke: minetest.override_item() |
03:18 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1346 |
03:18 |
VanessaE |
that's how you redefine an object if you need to |
03:19 |
NANOsoldierEnke |
Thanks. Just needed a word to search the api for. |
03:19 |
VanessaE |
and any time you supply a mod with the same name as a mod in minetest_game, your mod will be loaded instead of the one in the game. |
03:20 |
VanessaE |
bear in mind that this function doesn't exist in 0.4.10, but only in -dev builds |
03:21 |
VanessaE |
I think. |
03:21 |
VanessaE |
it'll be in 0.4.11 anyway :) |
03:22 |
NANOsoldierEnke |
Huh. That may come in handy. |
03:24 |
* Fritigern |
runs only dev builds of minetest and minetest_game, gets questions about the tefture pack in use :-) |
03:24 |
Fritigern |
*texture |
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03:27 |
VanessaE |
WARNING: Expect a flood attempt. |
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03:30 |
Hobodium |
Hooray, someones server uses my mod now, I feel so accomplished |
03:30 |
VanessaE |
cool :) |
03:30 |
Fritigern |
Which mod is that? |
03:31 |
Hobodium |
I havn't really published it yet, but it has growable mushrooms |
03:32 |
Fritigern |
Oh, i thuink i have read about it a short while ago. I had planned to use them for MineTestCraft |
03:33 |
Hobodium |
I don't know how you read about it, I just made it yesterday and I havn't published it... |
03:33 |
Hobodium |
Stay out of my house pls :y |
03:33 |
Fritigern |
Really? Then it much have been a dofferent mod |
03:33 |
Fritigern |
*different |
03:33 |
VanessaE |
Hobodium: just FYI plantlife has plantable/growable mushrooms also :) |
03:34 |
VanessaE |
however yours probably work better :P |
03:34 |
Hobodium |
I figured someone else made mushrooms at some point, I just wanted a starter project. Plus I have mushroom shovels :y |
03:34 |
VanessaE |
heheh |
03:34 |
* Fritigern |
has plantlife, but no shrooms in my world |
03:34 |
VanessaE |
Fritigern: they only grow under limited conditions, and the mushroom mod is a fairly new addition |
03:34 |
* NANOsoldierEnke |
just finished a micromod that lets you craft sources. |
03:35 |
NANOsoldierEnke |
Not sure why; someone requested it. 20 lines of code later, there it was... |
03:36 |
NANOsoldierEnke |
It was actually kind of scary. |
03:39 |
VanessaE |
best way to do it really. |
03:39 |
VanessaE |
someone needs a bit of code, you stepped up, and bam, there it is :) |
03:40 |
VanessaE |
that's why I write the mods I write. I just like to make stuff people (myself included) can use. |
03:41 |
Fritigern |
VanessaE: If i may make a suggestion: include the date of the last edit of the plantlife modpack in the readme file, that way it gets easier to tell if a mod(pack) is outdated or not |
03:42 |
VanessaE |
Fritigern: I used to do that, but I found myself forgetting to update that date :P |
03:42 |
VanessaE |
so I rely on the commit log for that now |
03:42 |
Fritigern |
Yes, but i, as the end user, do not know which version of plantlife i have |
03:43 |
VanessaE |
you have the same version I do: 0.0.0 :-) |
03:43 |
Fritigern |
(installed from zip) |
03:43 |
VanessaE |
(that is to say, I don't use version numbers, just commit dates) |
03:43 |
Fritigern |
dates are just as good as version numbers |
03:43 |
VanessaE |
one way to know is to watch the forum thread for updates |
03:44 |
Fritigern |
My server counts 151 mods. I can not track all of them |
03:44 |
NANOsoldierEnke |
VanessaE: Used to do that with a version history. Forgot to update that too. :-P |
03:44 |
VanessaE |
Fritigern: that's a lot :P |
03:45 |
NANOsoldierEnke |
Ah vell. G'night e'rryone |
03:45 |
Fritigern |
VanessaE: It used to be 159 :-) |
03:45 |
Zeno` |
mushrooms! |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
Zeno`: come down out of the clouds, those magic 'shrooms should have worn off by now ;-) |
03:46 |
Zeno` |
But... they're all nice and white and fluffy |
03:46 |
Zeno` |
They tickle my nose |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
Fritigern: actually, if you tell the forum to subscribe you to the thread for the mod, it'll email you whenever someone posts |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
so you'll get my update notices then |
03:47 |
VanessaE |
Zeno`: ~Mercer177.39.245.248 |
03:47 |
VanessaE |
fuck |
03:47 |
Fritigern |
VanessaE: Aparrently, my plantlife was ANCIENT, containing only bushes classic, flowers plus, junglegrass, plants_lib and poisonivy |
03:47 |
VanessaE |
paste error. Zeno`: http://xkcd.com/941/ |
03:47 |
Zeno` |
lol |
03:47 |
VanessaE |
Fritigern: oh wow. yeah, updatre that bad boy |
03:47 |
VanessaE |
-r |
03:47 |
* Fritigern |
does not wishj to fornicate at this very moment. Can we do that later? :-) |
03:48 |
* Zeno` |
shuts his eyes |
03:48 |
VanessaE |
heh |
03:48 |
Fritigern |
Oh, dos the modpack have to be called "plantlife_modpack", or can i rename it to just "plantlife"? |
03:49 |
VanessaE |
Fritigern: plantlife has seen major updates in the past weeks. yes, you can leave the name as plantlife. I recommend you just delete it, however, and re-download it and re-install. |
03:49 |
VanessaE |
it's a modpack so the name doesn't actually matter |
03:49 |
Fritigern |
I was moving the unpacked new plantlife |
03:50 |
Fritigern |
renamed the old one so that it would be disabled, in case of issues |
03:50 |
VanessaE |
I'm not sure if merely renaming it will be enough to disable the old copy. move it out of minetest's reach entirely |
03:51 |
VanessaE |
(the way I manage my mods, renaming would indeed be insufficient) |
03:51 |
Fritigern |
Oh, it is enough, trust me ;-) |
03:51 |
VanessaE |
heh ok |
03:51 |
Zeno` |
On Linux it is enough to rename to a hidden file (e.g. .plantlife_old) |
03:52 |
Zeno` |
well, that's if mods are in the worldmods/ directory anyway... I dunno about normal mods directory but I suspect it would be the same |
03:52 |
VanessaE |
I wasn't aware that minetest respected that concept. |
03:52 |
Zeno` |
Does for me :) |
03:52 |
VanessaE |
(considering how...unorthodox it is in other respects ;) ) |
03:52 |
Fritigern |
Meh, i just named it "plantlife_ANCIENT". This causes the game not to find ot for two reasons: 1- the game does not allow uppercase, and 2- the name is different from what world.mt expects |
03:53 |
VanessaE |
ah, good call |
03:53 |
Zeno` |
I wouldn't mind an ancient plantlife modpack |
03:53 |
VanessaE |
anywho, the new update has much more stuff but with the spread-out generating method you should notice little or no lag |
03:53 |
VanessaE |
or you can delete the components you don't want, of course |
03:53 |
Zeno` |
Archaeoviola etc |
03:54 |
* Fritigern |
didn't notice any plantlife-related lag |
03:55 |
VanessaE |
Fritigern: the ancient versions didn't actually have many things hooking into the mapgen. the modern versions have lots of stuff hooking in. until recently, that caused lots of lag |
03:58 |
* Zeno` |
feels guilty about the mushrooms |
03:58 |
Zeno` |
I was updating that but have been on a two week tangent :( |
03:59 |
VanessaE |
and ferns ;) |
03:59 |
VanessaE |
weren't you working on some update for that module also? ;) |
03:59 |
Zeno` |
didn't I already do ferns? |
03:59 |
VanessaE |
no wait.. not ferns |
03:59 |
VanessaE |
what was it.. |
03:59 |
Zeno` |
oh wait.. I only did giant tree ferns I think |
03:59 |
Zeno` |
I can't remember now |
03:59 |
Hobodium |
So I learned I need to figure out how to do mapgen better. |
04:00 |
Zeno` |
it was dry plants |
04:00 |
Zeno` |
that are not dry plants |
04:00 |
VanessaE |
ah yes |
04:00 |
VanessaE |
that's the one |
04:00 |
VanessaE |
Hobodium: just hook into plants_lib ;) |
04:00 |
Fritigern |
Alright, ready to test and find out which mod prevents me from sowing wheat. Will report my findings as soon as i have something to report |
04:00 |
VanessaE |
good luck |
04:00 |
VanessaE |
I'm about to call it a night here |
04:01 |
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04:01 |
Hobodium |
Thanks for the help, I'll look into plants_lib |
04:02 |
VanessaE |
ok, I'm off to bed |
04:02 |
VanessaE |
night all |
04:02 |
Fritigern |
Sleep well! |
04:02 |
VanessaE |
let's see if I can actually sleep :) |
04:02 |
VanessaE |
thanks |
04:03 |
Zeno` |
night |
04:06 |
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04:07 |
Fritigern |
Okay. The culprit is, believe it or not: farming_plus |
04:08 |
Fritigern |
OH! I see VanessaE has made a commit to farming_plus only 9 days ago. Redownloading it, and testing! |
04:11 |
Fritigern |
That fixed it! VanessaE copnsider yourself hugged!!!! |
04:18 |
Zeno` |
<Zeno`> there is a thread on the forums about farming_plus and some things not working |
04:18 |
Zeno` |
I don't get a hug? |
04:19 |
Zeno` |
The answer has been there all along :p |
04:19 |
Zeno` |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2787&hilit=farming_plus&start=300 |
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04:25 |
jentron |
Is there a list of debian build dependencies somewhere? |
04:26 |
Zeno` |
https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/minetest <-- good start |
04:27 |
Zeno` |
you will need the development versions as well, of course |
04:27 |
Hobodium |
Later dudes |
04:30 |
jentron |
Thanks |
04:32 |
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04:36 |
jentron |
http://dev.minetest.net/CMake_Options is even better |
04:38 |
Zeno` |
yes :) |
04:38 |
Zeno` |
can even make fancy graphs |
04:38 |
Zeno` |
http://i.imgur.com/BGGHNzc.jpg |
04:47 |
jentron |
Just a filename to search is better than the obscure cmake whine |
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04:53 |
OldCoder |
Dragonop, mos_basik moin |
04:55 |
Dragonop |
what? |
04:56 |
blaise |
moin, morning, morgen |
04:56 |
blaise |
gutten morgen |
04:57 |
blaise |
was ist los? |
05:03 |
Dragonop |
oh, thanks :-) |
05:04 |
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05:05 |
Zeno` |
somebody was whining? |
05:17 |
VanessaE |
well THAT was an utter failure :-/ |
05:17 |
* VanessaE |
can't sleep. |
05:19 |
VanessaE |
Fritigern: I can't believe I forgot about Blockmen's patch. G*d I feel stupid :P |
05:19 |
OldCoder |
blaise, he is Argentina. Spanish language not German :-) |
05:20 |
OldCoder |
Argentina is furthest South MT'er I have met |
05:20 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: zeno is further south. Oz. :) |
05:20 |
OldCoder |
The Moin was my own affectation. AU is further south? Very well! |
05:20 |
OldCoder |
Dragonop, welcome back |
05:20 |
VanessaE |
I think so *checks map* |
05:21 |
Zeno` |
I suppose I should say g'day :/ |
05:21 |
OldCoder |
No... |
05:21 |
OldCoder |
It is |
05:21 |
OldCoder |
"G'Day Mate!" |
05:21 |
Zeno` |
lol |
05:21 |
VanessaE |
hm, maybe not. depends on the part of Argentina in question I guess :) |
05:21 |
* OldCoder |
loved Crocodile Dundee |
05:21 |
OldCoder |
Dragonop, are you farther South than Australia? |
05:22 |
OldCoder |
He may be asleep |
05:22 |
Zeno` |
Southern parts of Argentina are at lower longitudes |
05:22 |
Dragonop |
i think so |
05:22 |
Zeno` |
err lats |
05:22 |
OldCoder |
You think that you are asleep? OK |
05:22 |
Dragonop |
A little |
05:22 |
Dragonop |
its 2:00am in Argentina |
05:23 |
Zeno` |
Crikey. That's not sleep, this is a sleep! |
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05:23 |
VanessaE |
for some reason I thought Argentina was much smaller than is shown here. didn't realize it goes pretty much all the way down to the southern tip of the continent. |
05:23 |
OldCoder |
Not a small place no |
05:23 |
Zeno` |
It's very cold down the bottom as well |
05:23 |
Zeno` |
penguins live there |
05:23 |
Dragonop |
small penguins |
05:23 |
OldCoder |
Zeno`, did you like or dislike Crocodile Dundee? |
05:23 |
Zeno` |
icebergs live there as well |
05:23 |
Dragonop |
lol |
05:23 |
OldCoder |
Icebergs "live" there? |
05:24 |
VanessaE |
heh |
05:24 |
Zeno` |
OldCoder, I thought it was funny because we're not like that at all (most of us) |
05:24 |
OldCoder |
"We shall make a habitat for ourselves!" |
05:24 |
Zeno` |
I enjoyed it |
05:24 |
OldCoder |
Zeno`, just as most Silicon Valleyers are not Valley Girls |
05:24 |
OldCoder |
Hm. That is probably outdated |
05:24 |
OldCoder |
So you don't say "Crikey that is not a knife. THIS is a knife" ? |
05:27 |
Zeno` |
OldCoder, they're not?! |
05:27 |
* Zeno` |
cries |
05:27 |
OldCoder |
Hm? |
05:27 |
* OldCoder |
is confused |
05:27 |
VanessaE |
heh |
05:27 |
Zeno` |
I thought most Silicon Valleyers were Valley Girls |
05:27 |
OldCoder |
Dragonop, you are now at the very heart of Minetest. Learn from the masters. |
05:27 |
OldCoder |
No, Valley Girls are Southern California. |
05:28 |
OldCoder |
Silicon Valley is entirely North. |
05:28 |
VanessaE |
Dragonop: ...and prepare to run for your life, because it gets crazy in here :P |
05:28 |
* Zeno` |
cracks open a beer and pours it on his breakfast cereal |
05:28 |
OldCoder |
Two different countries |
05:28 |
OldCoder |
Beer on Cheerios is Beerios |
05:28 |
Zeno` |
lol |
05:28 |
OldCoder |
Sounds good |
05:28 |
VanessaE |
ew. |
05:28 |
Zeno` |
needs sugar |
05:28 |
* OldCoder |
does not eat cereal any more. As a boy he had Captain Crunch. |
05:28 |
Zeno` |
Did you have a code wheel? |
05:28 |
VanessaE |
there's already fermented sugar in the beer :P |
05:29 |
OldCoder |
Oh, sure, the one thing that cereals need is more sugar |
05:29 |
OldCoder |
Code wheel? Is this a real deal? You are joking I feel. |
05:29 |
Zeno` |
That's what we could do tomorrow. Talk in cipher and everyone can sit here spinning their code wheels to decrypt the messages |
05:29 |
OldCoder |
This is a 1960s thing |
05:29 |
Zeno` |
lol |
05:29 |
OldCoder |
You are surely not that old |
05:29 |
Zeno` |
No |
05:29 |
Zeno` |
I've just read about them :) |
05:30 |
OldCoder |
We actually had them |
05:30 |
Dragonop |
really? |
05:30 |
OldCoder |
You could open cereal boxes and find secret decoder rings |
05:30 |
OldCoder |
Sure! |
05:30 |
Zeno` |
Yeah, I've read about them in... I think the book was "Hackers" by Stephen somebody |
05:30 |
OldCoder |
Kids could be in secret clubs |
05:30 |
OldCoder |
Exclusive to 1M others |
05:30 |
Zeno` |
I'm still in a secret club |
05:31 |
Dragonop |
.-. |
05:31 |
OldCoder |
http://image.timepassagesnostalgia.com/watermarked/images64/6420ringchex.jpg |
05:31 |
OldCoder |
Seriously, check it out ^ |
05:31 |
Zeno` |
I'm the developer of the hodor cipher |
05:31 |
OldCoder |
http://theimaginaryworld.com/pix407.jpg |
05:31 |
OldCoder |
Hodor Cipher? |
05:31 |
Zeno` |
I think I've lost the source code though |
05:31 |
* OldCoder |
awaits details |
05:31 |
OldCoder |
Oh No |
05:31 |
Zeno` |
yes... for example: |
05:31 |
Zeno` |
"HODor, hODOr, HOdor, hODOr, HodoR hodOr, hOdoR HODor, hoDoR, HoDOr, hODor, HodoR, hodOR! HoDOr, hoDor, hoDor, HOdor HoDor, hODOr, hODOr, HOdor!" |
05:31 |
VanessaE |
the message reads... "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine" |
05:32 |
Zeno` |
Translates to "HODOR IS HUNGRY! NEED FOOD!" |
05:32 |
OldCoder |
Ofc |
05:32 |
Zeno` |
(seriously) |
05:32 |
Zeno` |
I was very bored one day :( |
05:32 |
OldCoder |
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ERzKIre4I_s/UVaOFb2X76I/AAAAAAAAjR4/X-UuSS3iQl0/s320/13.jpeg |
05:32 |
Zeno` |
7-bit hodor cipher |
05:32 |
OldCoder |
That one is way older than me ^ |
05:32 |
Zeno` |
it even looks old |
05:33 |
OldCoder |
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r178/Maynar/DecoderRing2012-02-28.gif |
05:33 |
OldCoder |
My life is pop culture now |
05:33 |
OldCoder |
I am truly old |
05:33 |
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05:33 |
Zeno` |
I hope I haven't lost the hodor cipher source code... perhaps it's on my laptop |
05:33 |
OldCoder |
It must be rescued |
05:33 |
OldCoder |
Data should not be lost |
05:33 |
Dragonop |
Maybe you may write it down in paper |
05:34 |
OldCoder |
He must nail down the algorithm |
05:34 |
OldCoder |
Firebat, what is that? |
05:34 |
Dragonop |
a bat light in fire? |
05:35 |
OldCoder |
Could be we will see gee |
05:35 |
Zeno` |
Not on my shared drive |
05:36 |
Zeno` |
my leap year program is here |
05:37 |
Zeno` |
http://codepad.org/m0j77nv8 |
05:37 |
Zeno` |
look how elegant that is |
05:38 |
Zeno` |
an analogue leap year function... none of this bit twiddling rubbish |
05:38 |
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05:40 |
Dragonop |
What time is it there? |
05:40 |
VanessaE |
1:40am here |
05:40 |
Dragonop |
Saturday? |
05:41 |
VanessaE |
yeh |
05:41 |
VanessaE |
+a |
05:41 |
Zeno` |
I have a clock program as well VanessaE |
05:41 |
Zeno` |
uses cogs as well, of course |
05:41 |
VanessaE |
that program is just...evil |
05:41 |
VanessaE |
analog cogs? in a digital world? |
05:42 |
VanessaE |
*head explodes* |
05:42 |
Zeno` |
yeah |
05:42 |
Zeno` |
I did quite a few programs in my "cog series" |
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05:42 |
* Dragonop |
loves analog clocks |
05:42 |
Zeno` |
I was going to make that leap year tester in real life |
05:43 |
Zeno` |
But I failed making the cogs :( |
05:43 |
VanessaE |
you want cogs, build a clock out of lego :) |
05:43 |
Zeno` |
great idea! |
05:43 |
VanessaE |
like this guy did: http://www.ericharshbarger.org/lego/clock.html |
05:43 |
Zeno` |
I can resurrect my cog algorithms and build them all! |
05:44 |
Zeno` |
errr.. mine might not be that large |
05:44 |
VanessaE |
every so often I try again to recreate what he did, but I can never seem to get the escapement to behave *just* right due to my lack of the right parts |
05:45 |
Zeno` |
yeah I remember reading heaps about clocks (and gears and cogs etc etc in general) when I went through my month of "let's do everything as if this wasn't digital" phase |
05:46 |
Zeno` |
I dunno if I'd have the patience to make a clock as big as he did |
05:47 |
VanessaE |
I have the patience. I just don't have the money to buy enough pieces :) |
05:47 |
Zeno` |
well, hodorcipher source code doesn't seem to be here :/ |
05:47 |
VanessaE |
have you any idea just how much LEGO bricks cost??? :) |
05:48 |
Zeno` |
no, I used to just take them off the kid next door |
05:48 |
Zeno` |
just joking! haha |
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05:48 |
Dragonop |
:D |
05:49 |
Hobodium |
VanessaE what are you doing back already |
05:49 |
Viper168 |
hey I know you Zeno` |
05:49 |
Viper168 |
you're the one who kept stealing my legos |
05:49 |
Viper168 |
! |
05:51 |
Dragonop |
Run, Zeno`, run! |
05:51 |
VanessaE |
Hobodium: couldn't sleep :-/ |
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05:52 |
* Zeno` |
hides behind the sofa |
05:52 |
Zeno` |
hodor bible still exists, but no hodor cipher :/ |
05:53 |
Zeno` |
1240 page PDF |
05:53 |
Zeno` |
I must have been crazy |
05:54 |
Dragonop |
t-that, weighs a lot right? |
05:54 |
Zeno` |
yes. I haven't printed it though |
05:54 |
Zeno` |
It's and unpublished book |
05:54 |
Zeno` |
an* |
05:55 |
Hobodium |
What a heavy pdf |
05:55 |
Zeno` |
heh |
05:57 |
VanessaE |
well you can work out the math that a PDF would actually have some amount of mass and therefore, weight |
05:57 |
VanessaE |
(assume it's stored electrically, therefore a set number of electrons per bit. from there, the mass calculation is trivial) |
05:57 |
Zeno` |
yes... trivial |
05:57 |
* Zeno` |
will leave that for you to calculate |
05:58 |
VanessaE |
trivial if you know the formula, which I don't :) |
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06:00 |
Zeno` |
I think it's E = mc^2 |
06:00 |
Zeno` |
oh oh oh |
06:01 |
Zeno` |
guess what |
06:01 |
Zeno` |
my refactored the_game() now connects to servers and downloads media etc etc etc |
06:01 |
Zeno` |
I haven't worked on it today though... too lazy |
06:01 |
Dragonop |
the_game? |
06:03 |
VanessaE |
Zeno`: I'm pretty sure E=mc^2 is only part of the formula... knowing the mass of an electron would also be handy :-) |
06:03 |
VanessaE |
and that's the formula for mass at a given velocity, not the formula for rest mass |
06:03 |
VanessaE |
:) |
06:04 |
OldCoder |
Um, you folks |
06:04 |
OldCoder |
Some of you |
06:04 |
OldCoder |
Know how literal the Old Coder is |
06:04 |
OldCoder |
Is there really a 1,000-page cipher? |
06:04 |
OldCoder |
|
06:05 |
Dragonop |
Pi? |
06:05 |
Zeno` |
OldCoder, there is really a hodor cipher, but the hodor bible is not written in that cipher |
06:05 |
OldCoder |
All right |
06:05 |
OldCoder |
Dragonop, pi never ends |
06:05 |
OldCoder |
Kenneth and I used to compete at memorizing it |
06:05 |
OldCoder |
100 digits are sometimes with me still |
06:06 |
Zeno` |
the hodor cipher is simply 7 bit (in reverse) "encoded" letters h o d o r where lowercase characters are 0 and uppercase are 1 |
06:06 |
OldCoder |
It seems... um, simple |
06:06 |
OldCoder |
So your texts are not lost? |
06:06 |
Zeno` |
yeah but I will have to rewrite the encode/decode (I could have done it in the time I'm spent searching for it lol) |
06:07 |
Zeno` |
I've* |
06:07 |
sol_invictus |
anyone can tell how to generate inventory image from a nodebox definition? |
06:09 |
Zeno` |
so from memory Hodor == 'A' hOdor == 'B' HOdor == 'C' and so on |
06:10 |
Zeno` |
pretty silly |
06:10 |
OldCoder |
OldCoder respects Old hOdor |
06:10 |
OldCoder |
inventory image |
06:10 |
OldCoder |
Hm |
06:10 |
* OldCoder |
needs to learn that |
06:10 |
OldCoder |
2D right? |
06:11 |
Dragonop |
nodeboxes aren't 3D? |
06:12 |
kaeza |
sol_invictus, you can't (yet) |
06:14 |
kaeza |
sol_invictus, there's only `[inventorycube`, but it's for full cubes |
06:14 |
sol_invictus |
dammit, the one games generate in incredibly small |
06:14 |
sol_invictus |
game generates* |
06:15 |
kaeza |
you could try taking a screenshot of the inventory, editing as needed, and using it as inventory_image |
06:15 |
kaeza |
or render an appropriate image using e.g. blender or something |
06:15 |
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06:16 |
kaeza |
(it would show up as a flat extruded mesh in the hand though, instead of a proper 3D item) |
06:16 |
sol_invictus |
is there anyway to import nodebox definition to blender? |
06:17 |
sol_invictus |
(instead of recreating it) |
06:17 |
kaeza |
nope |
06:17 |
sol_invictus |
uh-oh, everything is so complicated |
06:21 |
sol_invictus |
amazingly small bottle of wine :D http://i.imgur.com/SD6vXFj.png |
06:22 |
kaeza |
uh, "removed" |
06:22 |
sol_invictus |
woah, imgur over capacity. that was unexpected. |
06:22 |
kaeza |
·_· |
06:22 |
sol_invictus |
https://mediacru.sh/ls4AplttpD6R |
06:23 |
kaeza |
for that case though, it'd be better to create a plain image |
06:24 |
Dragonop |
+1 |
06:26 |
sol_invictus |
true |
06:27 |
sol_invictus |
but anyway I had cases when I needed generated image |
06:27 |
sol_invictus |
you said yet, is anything gonna change soon? |
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06:29 |
Dragonop |
sol_invictus,are you creating a mod? |
06:29 |
sol_invictus |
nope, I'm modding a mod (: |
06:31 |
Dragonop |
I want to see that amazingly small bottle of wine |
06:31 |
Dragonop |
:) |
06:32 |
Krock |
meow |
06:33 |
Dragonop |
meow |
06:33 |
sol_invictus |
Dragonop: this is what it looks like https://cdn.mediacru.sh/pwmLPbKKVuyZ.png |
06:34 |
sol_invictus |
Krock: hello kitty |
06:35 |
Dragonop |
nice bottle |
06:36 |
Krock |
sol_invictus, it's not round. |
06:36 |
Dragonop |
minetest is about cubes |
06:36 |
kaeza |
sol_invictus, I recall there was a discussion about that recently, but can't find the topic/issue |
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06:36 |
Dragonop |
i dont like round things in minetest |
06:36 |
sol_invictus |
I have no idea how many nodeboxes it would be if round |
06:36 |
* kaeza |
pets Krock |
06:36 |
Krock |
rrr |
06:37 |
Krock |
purr |
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06:37 |
Dragonop |
I have a cat, now it's trying to climb up my head |
06:38 |
sol_invictus |
I had a cat, but he's gone now ): |
06:38 |
Dragonop |
im so sorry |
06:40 |
Krock |
I never had a cat and it never gone :) |
06:41 |
Dragonop |
sol_invictus what program you use to make nodeboxes? |
06:42 |
sol_invictus |
at first I used nodeboxeditor by rubenwardy to understand how nodeboxes works |
06:42 |
sol_invictus |
the bottle I programmed by hands in geany lol |
06:43 |
sol_invictus |
textures based on some bottle from homedecor mod |
06:43 |
Dragonop |
homedecor has bottles?! |
06:45 |
VanessaE |
yes |
06:46 |
VanessaE |
and it will have more soon |
06:46 |
VanessaE |
it has a green one and a brown one |
06:46 |
VanessaE |
they were supposed to be beer and cola, but I decided at the time that I wanted them to be more generic |
06:47 |
Dragonop |
Maybe you can make a lot of bottles , all togueter to simulate a ledge full of them |
06:47 |
Dragonop |
*together |
06:48 |
VanessaE |
actually that's the plan :) |
06:48 |
VanessaE |
also I will be adding a wine rack |
06:48 |
sol_invictus |
I think nodeboxeditor needs ability to clone nodeboxes |
06:49 |
VanessaE |
e.g. something of this nature: https://www.google.fr/search?es_sm=122&tbm=isch&q=wine+cellar&revid=1490005681&sa=X&ei=CEwTVL7aM87qaICagTg&ved=0CCAQ1QIoAA&dpr=1&biw=1024&bih=685 |
06:49 |
VanessaE |
sol_invictus: that would be useful, yes |
06:49 |
VanessaE |
Dragonop: I will be adding at least a couple of nodes with several bottles gathered together, but I haven't decided how to do that yet |
06:50 |
Dragonop |
o: bottles ||:air o||o||o||o |
06:50 |
Cylus |
Google.fr ... Are you French, VanessaE? |
06:50 |
VanessaE |
Cylus: no, sorry. |
06:50 |
Dragonop |
o||o||o |
06:50 |
Dragonop |
||o||o|| |
06:50 |
VanessaE |
it's just a search result I had open from before that jp gave me. the wine rack was his idea |
06:51 |
VanessaE |
(he's French, hence the .fr came from him :) ) |
06:52 |
Cylus |
A wine rack would be kind of cool. Especially in a basement. |
06:52 |
Cylus |
It's way past my bed time though. Good night, all! |
06:53 |
OldCoder |
nite |
06:53 |
OldCoder |
zzz |
06:53 |
Dragonop |
good nite |
06:53 |
OldCoder |
<Dragonop> I have a cat, now it's trying to climb up my head |
06:53 |
OldCoder |
Cats on my head |
06:53 |
OldCoder |
Cats on my bead |
06:53 |
OldCoder |
Cats on my bed * |
06:53 |
OldCoder |
Cats books being read |
06:54 |
OldCoder |
Cats saying meow what is this stuff |
06:54 |
OldCoder |
You have no idea |
06:54 |
OldCoder |
Being a cat is rough |
06:54 |
OldCoder |
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06:54 |
OldCoder |
Cats practicing the arts |
06:54 |
OldCoder |
Cats riding in arts |
06:54 |
OldCoder |
Cats on the stairs |
06:54 |
OldCoder |
Cats in the airs |
06:54 |
OldCoder |
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06:54 |
OldCoder |
Cats here and there |
06:54 |
OldCoder |
Cats everywhere |
06:54 |
OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
*carts |
06:54 |
OldCoder |
z |
06:55 |
Dragonop |
Cat songs |
06:55 |
OldCoder |
To songs cats belongs |
06:55 |
* OldCoder |
is half under |
06:55 |
OldCoder |
Dreams asunder |
06:56 |
VanessaE |
oh no, he's going all silly again :) |
06:57 |
Dragonop |
run!! |
06:57 |
* Dragonop |
is running in circles |
06:59 |
Dragonop |
4:00am, only 3 hours to get up... |
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* VanessaE |
tosses Dragonop a bottle of Zzzquil |
07:06 |
VanessaE |
tastes nasty but it's effective |
07:06 |
Dragonop |
UH! |
07:06 |
Dragonop |
What's goin on! |
07:07 |
* Dragonop |
drinks |
07:07 |
* Zeno` |
runs in circles as well |
07:08 |
sol_invictus |
I wonder, has anyone tried to simulate drunkeness in minetest? |
07:08 |
Zeno` |
I am like a spinning top! |
07:08 |
Zeno` |
weeeeeeeeeee |
07:08 |
Dragonop |
weeeeeeeeee |
07:08 |
* Zeno` |
is pirouetting so fast that the whole world blurs into a single colour |
07:09 |
Dragonop |
rainbow colour :B |
07:09 |
sol_invictus |
Zeno, are you British? :O |
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07:11 |
Zeno` |
Australian |
07:12 |
Zeno` |
Do the British spin as well? |
07:13 |
Zeno` |
They must be jolly good chaps if they do |
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07:13 |
Zeno` |
and chapettes* |
07:13 |
sol_invictus |
ah, no, I noticed 'ou' :D |
07:15 |
Zeno` |
oh |
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Zeno` |
maybe they spin though |
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Krock |
mhm /me wants to add a humidity noise to his mapgen but he's absolutely out of ideas of biomes he could add |
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07:45 |
sol_invictus |
Krock: is it possible to make whole world covered in snow? |
07:45 |
Krock |
sol_invictus, yes sure |
07:46 |
sol_invictus |
nice, I have an idea for a survival game |
07:46 |
Krock |
let me guess: in snow. |
07:46 |
Krock |
with throwing snowballs |
07:47 |
sol_invictus |
hmm, didn't think about snowballs :P |
07:47 |
Krock |
lol |
07:48 |
sol_invictus |
the main idea is survival in cold climate |
07:48 |
sol_invictus |
it would require implementing temeperature bar for players |
07:49 |
Dragonop |
Kaeza has a mod that shows humidity and temp |
07:49 |
sol_invictus |
I guess it will be very hard to survive xD |
07:49 |
Dragonop |
its in his modpack ''kaeza's misc stuff'' if you want to use it |
07:50 |
sol_invictus |
hmm, I guess the best would be to create an addon for better_hud mod |
07:53 |
sol_invictus |
Dragonop: didn't find anything temperature related in there |
07:53 |
Dragonop |
wait a min |
07:59 |
Dragonop |
my mistake, its called tempidity |
07:59 |
Dragonop |
i dont now from where i take that it was a kaeza's mod |
08:00 |
Dragonop |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9439& |
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sol_invictus |
lol |
08:02 |
sol_invictus |
there is > break --nope.avi |
08:03 |
sol_invictus |
does break actually work in lua? |
08:03 |
sol_invictus |
I thought there is no such thing |
08:03 |
kaeza |
yes |
08:04 |
kaeza |
but no `continue` though :( |
08:05 |
sol_invictus |
eh, what is the problem, lua |
08:05 |
sol_invictus |
why'd they make break but not continue |
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Zeno` |
continue is trickier to implement |
08:41 |
Zeno` |
break is just goto really |
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ElectronLibre |
Good [morning|afternoon|evening|night|night trapped in a cave] everyone. |
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09:34 |
LemonLake |
Is there like, a mod suggestions board or something? |
09:36 |
ElectronLibre |
On the forum? |
09:37 |
LemonLake |
yes, I found a thread after some digging |
09:37 |
LemonLake |
though some of the suggestsions here just make me angry :P |
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LemonLake |
ooohh, birds sounds neat |
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meows at LemonLake |
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* LemonLake |
meows at sfan5 |
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LemonLake |
+| |
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sfan5| |
:3 |
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meldrian |
cats. cats everywhere |
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* ElectronLibre |
meows at meldrian. |
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Zeno` |
I have a furball :( |
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Krock |
Zeno`, that's a spambot |
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RumiaGloop |
meow |
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* ElectronLibre |
meows at RumiaGloop. |
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* RumiaGloop |
pets sfan5 |
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PenguinDad |
I love how I can't sneak in the android version :D |
11:42 |
lemonlake |
PenguinDad: you can? |
11:42 |
lemonlake |
its the button that looks almost like a house in the bottom right |
11:43 |
lemonlake |
ItsLuke: the fuck you doing? |
11:43 |
ItsLuke |
lemonlake, Nothing :P |
11:45 |
PenguinDad |
lemonlake: that button is unresponsive |
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11:56 |
Fritigern |
Well, i guess i performed my first mod hack :-) It bothered me that cottages has only a steel hammer. So i added an obsidian one. :-) |
11:57 |
Fritigern |
I prolly made it way OP, but i can always adjust it :-) |
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12:10 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
12:10 |
kilbith |
hi Megaf |
12:10 |
ElectronLibre |
Hello Megaf. |
12:11 |
kilbith |
Megaf: tried your own build ? |
12:11 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: PenguinDad, kilbith, you all should have Tox and add me |
12:11 |
Megaf |
for freedoms sake |
12:11 |
kilbith |
i'll try Tox later |
12:11 |
ElectronLibre |
I have Tox. |
12:12 |
Megaf |
My Tox 1DC9A272ABC30724E383B52DC14BA35E47E5492AF4F87BFA77851607ABB9651F9974DA354A4F |
12:13 |
ElectronLibre |
Thank you :). |
12:13 |
kilbith |
ouch |
12:13 |
ElectronLibre |
The tox ID are enormous kilbith, it's normal. |
12:13 |
kilbith |
crypty-feeling |
12:18 |
SylvieLorxu |
Megaf: I have you on Tox but you never seem online. For the sake of being able to clean up my friend list a bit, which is filled with dead entries, did you remove me? :P |
12:18 |
Megaf |
SylvieLorxu: Actually I didnt |
12:19 |
Megaf |
maybe I have you on other PC, hold on a second please |
12:19 |
kilbith |
Tox seems focused on 'out of the gov control' and privacy |
12:19 |
Megaf |
exactely |
12:19 |
kilbith |
but we should do not care about that if we aren't terrorist or so |
12:20 |
SylvieLorxu |
Oh God not this again |
12:20 |
SylvieLorxu |
That argument says that there are two kind of people |
12:20 |
SylvieLorxu |
Those who are terrorists, and those who never do anything wrong or embarassing |
12:20 |
kilbith |
i said 'or so' |
12:20 |
ElectronLibre |
We have all the right to protect our private life using whatever we want, we are not terrorist, we are humans, we have right. |
12:20 |
SylvieLorxu |
Yet, most people I know have things they'd only do with some privacy |
12:20 |
SylvieLorxu |
Like singing a song |
12:21 |
ElectronLibre |
*We all have |
12:21 |
SylvieLorxu |
Or... other perfectly legal, yet embarassing things |
12:21 |
SylvieLorxu |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcSlowAhvUk <- Related |
12:21 |
ElectronLibre |
!title |
12:21 |
MinetestBot |
ElectronLibre: Glenn Greenwald: Why privacy matters - YouTube |
12:22 |
ElectronLibre |
Interesting. |
12:23 |
kilbith |
when you use a network, you shall accept that your privacy is not respected at all |
12:23 |
kilbith |
or use the paper |
12:23 |
kilbith |
that's the rule |
12:24 |
SylvieLorxu |
Really? I never accepted that rule |
12:24 |
SylvieLorxu |
There are enough ways to protect yourself |
12:25 |
kilbith |
the world is dangereous now, terrorists use very well the network |
12:26 |
kilbith |
we have to accept less freedom for more security, and some ways that states are taking to stop these criminals or terrorists |
12:26 |
SylvieLorxu |
Pff |
12:26 |
SylvieLorxu |
Nonsense |
12:26 |
ElectronLibre |
kilbith, you're not forced to share all your life with the governement, of course you will be tracked, but you can protect yourself, because if you have the right that your privacy will be respected when you use paper, you have the same right when you use the internet. |
12:26 |
SylvieLorxu |
The rate of crime has only been going down |
12:26 |
Zeno` |
terrorists? |
12:26 |
Zeno` |
what a load of FUD :P |
12:26 |
SylvieLorxu |
But if you have nothing to hide, please give me the password of all your email and web accounts |
12:26 |
SylvieLorxu |
If you're doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide, right? |
12:26 |
SylvieLorxu |
So I won't find anything bad in there |
12:26 |
Zeno` |
but, wait, think of the children! |
12:27 |
kilbith |
" give me the password of all your email and web accounts" do not jump into the extreme example so easily |
12:27 |
Zeno` |
if you're afraid of terrorists and your country makes restrictive laws to combat "them", then they've already won |
12:28 |
Zeno` |
I'm looking at the USA here |
12:28 |
SylvieLorxu |
kilbith: You just said only terrorists have things to hide |
12:28 |
SylvieLorxu |
If you're not a terrorist, then you can safely share your passwords and let me look through your accounts |
12:28 |
ElectronLibre |
kilbith, don't jump into the extreme too, you are tracked, but you can at least protect yourself a little.. |
12:28 |
Megaf |
SylvieLorxu: you are on another computer :) |
12:28 |
kilbith |
SylvieLorxu : if you works on the gov and/or mandated for this, I do |
12:29 |
Zeno` |
think of the kittens! |
12:29 |
SylvieLorxu |
kilbith: Why not share with me anyway? Are you a terrorist who has things to hide? |
12:29 |
Zeno` |
we must read all your stuff because the kittens may be in danger if we don't! |
12:30 |
SylvieLorxu |
I thought good people like you shouldn't worry because they have nothing to hide |
12:30 |
SylvieLorxu |
Then I can't find anything bad either |
12:30 |
ElectronLibre |
First, think of the nodes! |
12:30 |
Zeno` |
Actually I wouldn't mind reading you email, kilbith |
12:30 |
kilbith |
SylvieLorxu : i do not want to share my privacy with non-gov people, untrustable |
12:30 |
Zeno` |
is that ok/? |
12:30 |
Zeno` |
I am a gov person |
12:30 |
SylvieLorxu |
kilbith: I thought good people didn't need privacy? |
12:31 |
Zeno` |
I trust you, so you should trust me. I'm thinking of the kitties |
12:31 |
Zeno` |
If you haven't eaten a cat then you should have no worries about me reading your email |
12:32 |
Zeno` |
On the other hand, I *have* eaten a cat :3 |
12:32 |
Zeno` |
Gave me furball problems |
12:33 |
kilbith |
something like Manichean in the freedom fighters thoughts... certainty that the govs are fundamentally evil |
12:33 |
* Zeno` |
coughs |
12:33 |
Zeno` |
sorry... furball |
12:35 |
kilbith |
in this principle, it would annoys me to not use Google, Youtube, facebook... |
12:35 |
kilbith |
their alternatives sucks a bit |
12:36 |
SylvieLorxu |
Governments aren't fundamentally evil, but one should not forget that the most important part for the government is keeping itself intact |
12:36 |
SylvieLorxu |
Citizens come second |
12:36 |
Dragonop |
iul{ppṕ} |
12:36 |
Dragonop |
Sorry, it was my cat |
12:36 |
Krock |
meow |
12:36 |
SylvieLorxu |
You can safely use "Google" (which services do you even mean) and YouTube if you use it with Tor |
12:37 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Dragonop |
12:37 |
SylvieLorxu |
Facebook, well, using that is just suicide |
12:37 |
* Dragonop |
purrs |
12:37 |
SylvieLorxu |
"Terms and Conditions May Apply" is a good documentary showing why |
12:38 |
SylvieLorxu |
(Which will take you less time to watch than it'll take you to actually read the Facebook Terms and Conditions, possibly) |
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kilbith |
"but one should not forget that the most important part for the government is keeping itself intact" <- govs are often in right, citizens must are just a relative 'adjustment variable', the govs must be an absolute entity |
12:40 |
kilbith |
(sort of) |
12:40 |
SylvieLorxu |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bau6K8OXnv4 <- This shows the insanity of mass surveillance |
12:40 |
SylvieLorxu |
An 8 year old terror subject, seriously? |
12:40 |
SylvieLorxu |
s/subject/suspect/ |
12:42 |
kilbith |
8 year kid can be an influencable tool for terrorists |
12:42 |
SylvieLorxu |
Okay, I give up |
12:42 |
SylvieLorxu |
That one comment told me enough |
12:43 |
kilbith |
that's the reality, here you live, it's the peaceful paradise |
12:43 |
SylvieLorxu |
Pff |
12:43 |
Zeno` |
Who are the terrorists? |
12:43 |
SylvieLorxu |
I feel sorry for you, really |
12:43 |
kilbith |
ditto |
12:43 |
Zeno` |
Who are the terrorists? |
12:43 |
SylvieLorxu |
You mindlessly believe what people in power tell you, history should've told you otherwise |
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12:44 |
kilbith |
I do not want to define the terrorists there, it's off-topic and can affect some sensibilities |
12:44 |
kilbith |
govs can define very well them |
12:44 |
Zeno` |
Nah, I'd like to know who the terrorists are |
12:44 |
kilbith |
not here |
12:44 |
Zeno` |
Why not? |
12:44 |
SylvieLorxu |
lol, sure they can, that's why that 8 year old kid is on a watchlist |
12:44 |
kilbith |
it's off-topic |
12:45 |
Zeno` |
Well, since the conversation has been about them for the last hour I don't think it's offtopic |
12:45 |
kilbith |
we talked about privacy on internet, not much offtopic than this subject |
12:45 |
Zeno` |
So you won't say it here because your idea of a terrorist is racist? |
12:46 |
kilbith |
?! |
12:46 |
Zeno` |
If not, tell me who the terrorists are |
12:46 |
kilbith |
where did you see I'm talked about racism ?! |
12:46 |
ElectronLibre |
We were talking about Tox, and now we are talking about terrorism and racism, I really don't understand. :° |
12:46 |
Zeno` |
Your reluctance to tell me who the terrorists are tells me all I need to know |
12:46 |
kilbith |
do not say lies to decredibilize me please |
12:47 |
Zeno` |
Prove me wrong then and tell me who the terrorists are |
12:47 |
SylvieLorxu |
ElectronLibre: Some people freak out about people taking back their right to privacy |
12:47 |
kilbith |
I never talked about racism |
12:47 |
Zeno` |
I dunno who the terrorists are and I'd really like to know |
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12:47 |
ElectronLibre |
No, but the topic came from nowhere x).. |
12:48 |
PenguinDad |
ElectronLibre: no it came from kilbith |
12:48 |
kilbith |
I do not want to argue with someone who think that I'm racist |
12:48 |
Zeno` |
Just tell me so I can protect myself! |
12:48 |
Dragonop |
Maybe you can use Tor |
12:49 |
ElectronLibre |
The answer of every of this conversation is simple, we can use Tox, Tor, and everything to protect ourself, and there will always be some tracking from gov and thoses how make the internet. |
12:50 |
SylvieLorxu |
We can avoid 95% of the tracking pretty easily, though. But yeah, the last 5% will be more difficult for most :P |
12:51 |
Dragonop |
Being realistic, if you live outside the United States, you can avoid the tracking easily |
12:52 |
SylvieLorxu |
Or if you live in one of those 7 countries that aren't tracked |
12:52 |
ElectronLibre |
But in the U.S., it's more complicated ^^. (I just say hello to the NSA who is now watching us :°.) |
12:52 |
SylvieLorxu |
Because "there are no terrorists there", of course |
12:52 |
SylvieLorxu |
(It's so clearly about power) |
12:54 |
Dragonop |
It's weird how Google says to you constantly that they are watching you |
12:55 |
ElectronLibre |
SylvieLorxu, which countries are you talking about exactly? |
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SylvieLorxu |
http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/30/court-allowed-nsa-to-spy-on-all-but-4-countries/ 'Only four countries in the world — Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand — were exempt from the agreement, due to existing no-spying agreements that the Post highlights in this document about the group of countries, known as “Five Eyes†with the U.S.' |
13:00 |
SylvieLorxu |
Sorry, 4, not 7 |
13:00 |
SylvieLorxu |
Those countries have their own divisions |
13:00 |
SylvieLorxu |
But still |
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* ElectronLibre |
isn't in one of them :°... |
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Zeno` |
I take back my suggestion that perhaps kilbith is racist |
13:26 |
Zeno` |
I think the problem is more like a lack of understanding of other people's points of view |
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PenguinDad |
If only terrorists have somthing to hide than most chinese people would be terrorists :/ |
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OldCoder |
Should I use mapgen 7 vs. 6? |
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shadowzone |
Don |
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shadowzone |
Don't used v7. |
13:54 |
OldCoder |
kk y ? |
13:54 |
shadowzone |
Unless you want a all stone world. |
13:54 |
OldCoder |
It is buggy? |
13:55 |
shadowzone |
Yes. |
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OldCoder |
kkty |
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Krock |
wat? v7 is not buggy |
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Dragonop |
it's WIP |
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Dragonop |
Hey, want to make some music with other people, check this out: http://labs.dinahmoe.com/plink/ |
14:23 |
Dragonop |
It's a multiplayer ''game'' |
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Krock |
so, finally that stuff worked |
15:17 |
Krock |
https://github.com/SmallJoker/yappy/commit/bbf1ab |
15:28 |
Krock |
Dragonop, clicked that link last time some months ago .. a funny game :) |
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Dragonop |
:) |
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harrison |
https://freedomboard.kirara.ca/ask/src/1410697408164.png |
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harrison |
good luck ebola-chan! |
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sfan5 |
harrison: wat |
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harrison |
wat wat |
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harrison |
do you mean wat travel or wat ebolachan? |
16:01 |
harrison |
oic |
16:01 |
harrison |
u mean ebola-chan |
16:01 |
harrison |
well, she is the anime mascot of the ebola virus |
16:02 |
harrison |
i am surpried that you haven't seen her before |
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harrison |
all the rage memewise |
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sfan5 |
do you think I browse 4chan daily |
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* ElectronLibre |
remember that a woman is at the hospital because of Ebola in a country at 200Km next to him. >_> |
16:04 |
VanessaE |
good afternoon all |
16:04 |
ElectronLibre |
And, why do you say "good luck ebola-chan"? O_o |
16:04 |
ElectronLibre |
Hello VanessaE :). |
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SylvieLorxu |
ElectronLibre: It's some messed up 4chan thing |
16:05 |
ElectronLibre |
I had understood that.. o.o |
16:05 |
SylvieLorxu |
That's basically all there is to it |
16:06 |
SylvieLorxu |
Asking 4chan to make sense is like asking a bear to drive a car |
16:06 |
SylvieLorxu |
Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdMp-4k55Oo |
16:06 |
ElectronLibre |
!title |
16:06 |
MinetestBot |
ElectronLibre: Gravity Falls - Seeing-Eye-Bear! - YouTube |
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shadowzone |
Hi. |
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shadowzone |
jojoa1997, what's the channel's name again I am using a different PC with different settings. |
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jojoa1997 |
##shadowempire |
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jojoa1997 |
shell_ |
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jojoa1997 |
oh sorry |
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OldCoder |
Hi. Twice, now, a world of mine has simply stopped responding without error messages. No high CPU. Is there a debug switch to add to produce more output to indicate where it locks up? |
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Calinou |
debug_log_level = 4 |
16:31 |
Calinou |
most verbose, default is 2 |
16:31 |
Calinou |
0 to disable logging |
16:31 |
Calinou |
then read debug.txt |
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OldCoder |
Calinou, so should add 0 for the other worlds? |
16:32 |
OldCoder |
To allow me to focus on the errant one? |
16:33 |
OldCoder |
I shall proceed, thank you |
16:33 |
OldCoder |
The lockups are not hard. SIGINT is received but not performed. |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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OldCoder |
greetings |
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OldCoder |
Calinou, thanks |
16:36 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, SilverCrab has simply stopped responding twice. No high CPU and it receives signals. Calinou has advised debug_log_level = 4 |
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* OldCoder |
is resting a bit |
16:36 |
Calinou |
hi |
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jordan4ibanez |
Wuh oh http://www.reddit.com/r/admincraft/comments/2iwpk4/wolvereness_got_letter_from_mojangs_attorney_that/ |
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jordan4ibanez |
Hopefully Microsoft doesn't try to come into Minetest |
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Calinou |
and /r/admincraft… |
16:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
In other news http://www.gorillaoffroadcompany.com/product-detail.cfm/prd_key/44 |
16:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
That looks amazing! |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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ElectronLibre |
Hello rubenwardy :). |
16:56 |
kaeza |
ehlo |
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Calinou |
http://www.reddit.com/user/_Grum |
16:58 |
Calinou |
hahaha dat downvotes on the EULA stuff (1 month ago) |
16:59 |
Calinou |
but I also see… “RIP seamless stone slabs. You will be missed.†→ which is where I got the Stone Tile idea from when I started More Blocks. |
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* Krock |
wonders why settings aren't saving after changing one with /'set' |
17:00 |
Krock |
*"/set" |
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Krock |
!server Because |
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MinetestBot |
Krock: Because lol. | 85.6.218.161:61562 | Clients: 0/15, 1/2 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 55ms |
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Krock |
^ testing yappy mapgen there |
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Calinou |
it is not made to save them —celeron55 |
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kaeza |
that guy nailed it |
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Dragonop |
hey krock, can i join? |
17:05 |
Krock |
Dragonop, sure. |
17:05 |
Dragonop |
thanks! |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: y not for da lulz? :P |
17:06 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, cuz such kitty speek |
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kaeza |
companies just add clauses to the EULAs with the excuse of "reducing piracy". but guess what? the "pirates" (I disagree with the term, BTW) are unaffected, while legit customers are fucked |
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VanessaE |
companies don't realize the simple truth: |
17:07 |
VanessaE |
"If I can see it, I can copy it." |
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VanessaE |
the copy may not be perfect, but that's immaterial. |
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VanessaE |
(meanwhile, those of us who just want to play the media we legally purchased are often prevented from even seeing it in the first place) |
17:10 |
Calinou |
<VanessaE> "If I can see it, I can copy it." |
17:10 |
Calinou |
the magic of the analog hole |
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kilbith |
-og |
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kaeza |
I wonder if watching a movie is illegal. since you're technically copying it to your brain :P |
17:14 |
* kaeza |
should not give them ideas |
17:14 |
Calinou |
kaeza, “This map may not be copied without permissionâ€, says a game map. |
17:14 |
Calinou |
downloading it is copying it |
17:14 |
VanessaE |
it is if you're using Linux. :-/ |
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SylvieLorxu |
It is on any OS |
17:15 |
SylvieLorxu |
I sometimes have people tell me that, because they're streaming a video, they're not downloading it |
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SylvieLorxu |
I guess this is why there's this mess |
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SylvieLorxu |
Even lawmakers don't even know what they're writing laws about |
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kaeza |
-----+ |
17:15 |
kaeza |
oops |
17:17 |
kaeza |
how long before |
17:17 |
kaeza |
you are charged by frame for watching a movie/playing a game, etc? |
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kaeza |
also. this stupid keyboard... |
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kaeza |
byyyyy the way. anything interesting happening today? |
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Calinou |
48 fps movies would cost more then |
17:21 |
PenguinDad |
There only was something interesting for me yesterday :D |
17:21 |
ElectronLibre |
table.len(day("today").happening[]) ==> 0 |
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Hobodium |
So, for v6 mapgen, does it create the map, add all the stuff like flowers, then make the caves in that order? |
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Calinou |
Hobodium, v6 mapgen in C++ is only hills, water, caves, lava and so on |
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Calinou |
fixtures like cacti, papyrus, flowers, ores, clay are generated afterwards using Lua |
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Calinou |
trees are grown in C++ too initially (but they use Lua when they grow from saplings) |
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Hobodium |
Okay, so caves are generated before anything lua defined is placed. Hrmm. Thank you very much, Calinou |
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Calinou |
Lua mapgens work by using singlenode mapgen, which places air (or another one) everywhere, the fastest |
18:09 |
Calinou |
then the mapgen overrides these |
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Krock |
dat speed. 20:31:01: ACTION[EmergeThread0]: (-272,48,208) generated in 250 ms |
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Krock |
Dragonop, I meant the player left :3 |
18:37 |
Dragonop |
i now :3 |
18:38 |
Dragonop |
Krock, my inv was bugged |
18:38 |
Krock |
oh |
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Calinou |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/eamksdK4_asb.png |
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Calinou |
me playing |
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alket |
whats that icon above hearts ? |
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rubenwardy |
Armour? |
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ElectronLibre |
The icons over the hearts? |
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PenguinDad |
Amour :P |
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ElectronLibre |
That's the armor level. |
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alket |
is there a armor ? |
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alket |
i couldnt make it work |
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paramat |
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riff |
hi is there a way to install textures system wide or where are the default textures in 0.4.9 |
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VanessaE |
riff: put your texture pack into <mintest folder>/textures e.g. <minetest folder>/textures/Misa or similar, and then select them in the menu |
19:29 |
ElectronLibre |
Default textures are in ./games/<anygame>/mods/<anymod>/textures |
19:29 |
VanessaE |
and please use 0.4.10 or later |
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PenguinDad |
because everything is better than 0.4.9 :D |
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PenguinDad |
o/ EvergreenTree |
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* EvergreenTree |
gives PenguinDad a penguin (a tux to be exact) |
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EvergreenTree |
I have discovered the awesomeness that is vim. I always knew it was around ,but I had no idea you could customize it so much |
19:31 |
EvergreenTree |
I love it |
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Tux[Qyou] |
:) |
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PenguinDad |
Penguinception unlocked! |
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riff |
VanessaE, yes but that will only work on my client not the other users because I used software center also I want to edit the defaults |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
I know there's a way to do a server-wide texture pack |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
maybe <minetest folder>/textures/all or <minetest folder>/textures/server |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
I can't remember now but it's supposed to be pretty simple |
19:35 |
VanessaE |
but at any rate don't use the version of minetest in the software center, it's outdated. |
19:35 |
VanessaE |
get 0.4.10 from the stable PPA |
19:35 |
VanessaE |
or a -dev version from the daily-builds PPA |
19:35 |
EvergreenTree |
Or compile it yourself |
19:35 |
VanessaE |
or that ^^^ |
19:35 |
EvergreenTree |
it isn't that difficult |
19:35 |
EvergreenTree |
but you can use the PPA if you like |
19:36 |
EvergreenTree |
You can use this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3837 |
19:36 |
EvergreenTree |
that is for the latest git version of course |
19:39 |
EvergreenTree |
Then you can update it using "cd path_to_minetest/; git pull; make-j$(grep -e "/proc/cpuinfo")" |
19:39 |
EvergreenTree |
(after using Calinou's script of course) |
19:40 |
riff |
yeah last time I checked the website it said get 0.4.9 and thats only a version down from 10 |
19:41 |
VanessaE |
riff: believe me, 0.4.9 is ollllllld :) |
19:41 |
riff |
not long ago I had 0.4.5 |
19:41 |
riff |
but maybe I'll update |
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riff |
whats the diffrence between them |
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ElectronLibre |
riff, are you from the past? x) The stable version is now the 0.4.10, believe us, and it is better than the 0.4.9 ^^ |
19:43 |
VanessaE |
riff: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.9_.E2.86.92_0.4.10 |
19:43 |
Xavi |
Hi john |
19:43 |
JohnWD |
Are you there Calinou? |
19:43 |
JohnWD |
And hey Xavi again |
19:43 |
riff |
yes I was born in the past |
19:43 |
VanessaE |
riff: ^^^^ that link shows everything that changed between 0.4.9 and 0.4.10 |
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Calinou |
yes JohnWD |
19:47 |
riff |
seems like I'll be updating the server then :-| |
19:47 |
JohnWD |
Come play BigPappa Server :) he using Your Gamemode. but I am working on a Nation. anyways maybe see you there ;) |
19:47 |
JohnWD |
^Calinou |
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Tux[Qyou] |
Calinou why are you so calinou? |
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Calinou |
JohnWD, sorry, already found a server I like |
20:17 |
Calinou |
I don't have too much time for playing |
20:17 |
JohnWD |
Ok |
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blaise |
Calinou: dedicating too much time to farmville two, eh? |
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Calinou |
no |
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Krock |
VanessaE, OldCoder, do you run all minetest servers on the same computer or for each server 1 computer? |
20:36 |
Calinou |
probably all servers on the same one |
20:36 |
VanessaE |
Krock: I run 8 of them, all on one physical machine |
20:36 |
Calinou |
it would be very inefficient to use 1 PC per server |
20:37 |
Calinou |
empty Minetest servers use almost no resources (except RAM) |
20:37 |
VanessaE |
all of them together take about 3GB RAM and consume 30 to 50% of one core. |
20:38 |
VanessaE |
when idle |
20:38 |
VanessaE |
(the RAM usage doesn't vary much) |
20:38 |
Calinou |
O_o |
20:38 |
Calinou |
why do empty servers use that much CPU |
20:38 |
VanessaE |
beats me |
20:38 |
Calinou |
when I have an idle minetestserver, I'm at 0 % |
20:38 |
blaise |
same here |
20:39 |
VanessaE |
could be an artifact of the hyperthread thing, it is an i3 after all |
20:39 |
* blaise |
gasps |
20:39 |
VanessaE |
so maybe some of that usage is from the slower core or the machine throttling foewn |
20:39 |
VanessaE |
down* |
20:39 |
Calinou |
I have HT too |
20:39 |
VanessaE |
for all I know that's 50% of one core running at like 600 MHz in idle mode |
20:39 |
VanessaE |
(it's 3.4 GHz max) |
20:39 |
blaise |
lol |
20:40 |
blaise |
no THz? |
20:40 |
Calinou |
still too high |
20:40 |
* VanessaE |
looks at her stats again |
20:40 |
Jordach |
as an AMD user here, 0% used too |
20:40 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: well, maybe you can tell me? http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html |
20:41 |
VanessaE |
servers have been a bit quiet the last couple of days, it IS the weekend after all |
20:41 |
Calinou |
you have a few players |
20:41 |
VanessaE |
yeah but look at the idle periods |
20:41 |
VanessaE |
like at around 16:00 |
20:42 |
VanessaE |
oh yeah, /proc/cpuinfo shows that the cores are auto-ranging according to load |
20:42 |
Krock |
VanessaE, okay thanks |
20:42 |
VanessaE |
right now one of them isn't even doing 2.5 GHz |
20:42 |
blaise |
should put minetest on one of those 15MHz machines |
20:43 |
VanessaE |
15 MHz? O_o |
20:43 |
PenguinDad |
blaise: too many MHz :P |
20:44 |
blaise |
k, we'll make it a 250KHz machine then |
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OldCoder |
Krock, I run up to 20 worlds on one host |
20:44 |
OldCoder |
It's got pretty decent hardware |
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Krock |
OldCoder, >= quad core I guess |
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Xavi |
Hi cg72 |
20:47 |
cg72 |
hi |
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blaise |
with any luck its a 12 core |
21:24 |
blaise |
or better |
21:25 |
blaise |
if we can get this stupid shrinkray working, we can have 1 billion cores in a cpu |
21:25 |
PenguinDad |
lol |
21:27 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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ElectronLibre |
Good bye everyone. |
21:30 |
blaise |
good bye |
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blaise |
ok, I got it |
21:36 |
blaise |
we need a metalica parrody for minetest |
21:36 |
blaise |
whiskey in the jar-o |
21:36 |
blaise |
but, no jar |
21:36 |
blaise |
nothing to do with jar |
21:36 |
VanessaE |
selloutica? bleh. |
21:36 |
blaise |
lmao |
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blaise |
I'm just kidding, you know that right? |
21:37 |
VanessaE |
I know :) |
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Xavi |
How does my ip get changed to [unaffiliated/xaivanov] ? |
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VanessaE |
Freenode probably gave you a cloak |
21:47 |
VanessaE |
idk how those work exactly except that they hide your true userhost from everyone else |
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VanessaE |
they're a network-wide feature you can request |
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JohnWD |
Do my hide to? |
21:50 |
JohnWD |
I know for isis.inchra.net but Idk on here |
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VanessaE |
er... |
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OldCoder |
Krock is away? |
21:51 |
VanessaE |
how am I supposed to answer a question when he just leaves? :-/ |
21:51 |
OldCoder |
Ditto |
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OldCoder |
VanessaE, he is still on over at Inchra |
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VanessaE |
I know, I see him |
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Jordach |
!c 13*7 |
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MinetestBot |
91 |
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* PenguinDad |
throws a script in the channel https://gist.github.com/PenguinDad/d6f102f835f8c7bc606b |
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pitriss |
Hi I want to ask.. Why register_alias can't work in moreores? Server version is 0.4.10 and it looks like :stairs* aliases are not appled.. Any idea? |
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pitriss |
VanessaE: maybe you can help me? Do you had sometime similar problem with aliases? |
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VanessaE |
well it kinda depends |
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VanessaE |
if a mod is already being loaded that is supplying nodes with those names, the aliases won't be used |
22:21 |
VanessaE |
it also depends on whether the node your alias points to exists at all when the alias command is executed |
22:23 |
VanessaE |
so e.g. if you want to alias foo:mynode --> bar:blahnode, then mod "bar" has to already be loaded, and bar:blahnode has to have already been defined before your alias command is executed, there must not be anything that defines foo:mynode. |
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VanessaE |
what exactly are you trying to alias, and to what, with moreores? (and did you mean moreblocks?) |
22:25 |
pitriss |
err its just in stairsplus part of moreblocks..:) https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreblocks/source/6501336d86f2f55d9c7af1869b461cd9e7891ad7:stairsplus/stairs.lua#L122 |
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VanessaE |
I figured that's what you meant. |
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* VanessaE |
looks |
22:26 |
pitriss |
i tried to copy that line with registering node but i changed name to ":stairs:*" and it worked.. node was registered correctly.. |
22:26 |
pitriss |
when I used original alias code, /giveme wasn'ŧ working so I guess this alias line failed somehow |
22:26 |
VanessaE |
have you tried just dropping the leading colon from the alias? |
22:27 |
VanessaE |
minetest.register_alias("stairs:stair_" .... |
22:27 |
VanessaE |
instead of.. |
22:27 |
VanessaE |
minetest.register_alias(":stairs:stair_" |
22:27 |
pitriss |
hmm will try.. thank you for advice:) |
22:27 |
VanessaE |
last I knew, aliases don't need the colon prefix trick |
22:27 |
VanessaE |
but I could be wrong |
22:28 |
pitriss |
no you was right..:) |
22:28 |
pitriss |
It is working |
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22:28 |
VanessaE |
oh good |
22:28 |
VanessaE |
you should mention this to calinou then |
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Viper168 |
best not to mess around with the colon if you don't have to |
22:28 |
Viper168 |
could get messy |
22:29 |
VanessaE |
Viper168: lest it cause cancer? :P |
22:30 |
pitriss |
VanessaE: okay.. I will mention it or I will send pull request.. (if i figure out how to do so) |
22:30 |
pitriss |
VanessaE: thank you for your help |
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VanessaE |
no prob |
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paramat |
so i made a fork of MTGame, created a topic branch and made a pull request from it. now MTG is being updated, i fetched upstream and merged to master. do i also fetch-merge to my topic branches? |
22:40 |
VanessaE |
paramat: not sure exactly |
22:40 |
VanessaE |
(I suck at managing multiple branches) |
22:40 |
paramat |
git is scarier than core mapgen |
22:40 |
VanessaE |
haha |
22:40 |
paramat |
no kidding this is my 2nd pull request |
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paramat |
actually i think not ... and more study is required |
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CatButts |
hai guise |
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paramat |
lol |
23:18 |
CatButts |
what is practical difference between MSVC build and MingW build on download site? |
23:18 |
Jordach |
MSVC runs faster |
23:18 |
Jordach |
that's about it |
23:18 |
CatButts |
ok |
23:19 |
VanessaE |
it just comes down to try one, if it doesn't work out for you, run the other :) |
23:23 |
CatButts |
MSVC it is |
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CatButts |
>friend runs 0.3,1 server, can't update |
23:27 |
CatButts |
what am I missing |
23:30 |
CatButts |
sound, for one |
23:30 |
CatButts |
haha |
23:30 |
PenguinDad |
> People use outdated versions |
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PenguinDad |
I told you dog I told you about outdated versions :P |
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CatButts |
bumarse |
23:35 |
CatButts |
I CAN'T EVEN DROWN MYSELF IN THIS VERSION |
23:35 |
CatButts |
hehehe |
23:36 |
CatButts |
maybe the server is creative mode |
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CatButts |
nope |
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