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jojoa1997 |
anyone know where I can get an OpenSuse build? |
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jojoa1997 |
nvm |
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Vazon |
VanessaE: are you around, im needing some help with plant_lib |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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iqualfragile |
oh, btw: finally got the players positions right: https://mineguild.net/mt/leafletmap/ |
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iqualfragile |
for no apparent reason i have to divide the coordinates by 320 |
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iqualfragile |
10 i understand but i have no idea where the 32 is from |
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Vazon |
im trying to use plant_lib to generate a sapling and using moretrees as a reference but im all confused.... |
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VanessaE |
use one of the simpler mods instead. |
00:29 |
VanessaE |
say flowers_plus |
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VanessaE |
or one of the parts of the ferns mod |
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VanessaE |
just where it uses a function for the spawn item, plug in the node name of your sapling instead. |
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VanessaE |
(in quotes of course |
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VanessaE |
) |
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Vazon |
ok |
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Hisforever |
hi How do I make die for cloth or wood? |
00:33 |
VanessaE |
dye is made from crafting flowers. |
00:33 |
VanessaE |
wood in the default game is not dyable, but cloth i.e. wool blocks are |
00:34 |
VanessaE |
pick a rose, put in the grid, you get red dye. dandelion gives yellow, etc. |
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Hisforever |
thanks that really helps I'm really new to this minetesty and it really makes you think |
00:34 |
VanessaE |
good. it's supposed to :) |
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Hisforever |
lol Canessa |
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Hisforever |
I got off 2 life because it was so expensive and I love this so much better |
00:36 |
Hisforever |
vanessa sorry for the typos |
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iqualfragile |
"die" Canessa" "minetesty" |
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VanessaE |
s'ok |
00:36 |
VanessaE |
try Dreambuilder some time |
00:36 |
VanessaE |
it's my subgame for minetest, you might like it |
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iqualfragile |
actually die minetesty Canessa |
00:37 |
iqualfragile |
i think its a message |
00:37 |
Hisforever |
feel like I've mined the grand canon with nothing of value |
00:38 |
Hisforever |
ok another how fo you privet message someone |
00:41 |
Hisforever |
'see ya I'll book mark this page |
00:41 |
VanessaE |
you can just /msg <user> <name> |
00:41 |
VanessaE |
er |
00:41 |
VanessaE |
/msg <user> <the message> |
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VanessaE |
missed. |
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jojoa1997 |
[20:36:30] <VanessaE> try Dreambuilder some time |
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jojoa1997 |
[20:36:41] <VanessaE> it's my subgame for minetest, you might like it |
00:45 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE I did and you shouldnt make the game so big |
00:46 |
jojoa1997 |
It took forever to download |
00:46 |
jojoa1997 |
-.- |
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jojoa1997 |
:3 |
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jojoa1997 |
What does the amount and time in addparticle_spawner mean |
00:48 |
jojoa1997 |
is it amount per second and time is how many seconds? |
00:49 |
VanessaE |
I don't care about download times :) |
00:49 |
VanessaE |
don't use particle spawners if you can avoid it |
00:49 |
VanessaE |
they're not too reliable and they can kill FPS if not used very carefully |
00:50 |
VanessaE |
amount is probably number of particles, time should be in seconds. |
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jojoa1997 |
what am I doing wrong here? http://pastebin.com/5xcThaGU |
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[Git] VanessaE -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: use one ABM for blinkyplant instead of two. 1ebd50a http://git.io/6Y9BaQ (2014-09-01T21:01:35-04:00) |
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iqualfragile |
VanessaE: i think its kinda ready to try now |
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crazyR |
wowowoooo you mean to tell me i might not be able to call blinkies "lag gens" ? |
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[Git] VanessaE -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: use the right mesecon:receptor_* call for on/off blinkyplant d325292 http://git.io/THlzbg (2014-09-01T21:12:11-04:00) |
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VanessaE |
^^^^ screwed up the first time. |
01:14 |
VanessaE |
sorry about that |
01:14 |
VanessaE |
crazyR: well they possibly could be still used to make lag machines, idk |
01:14 |
VanessaE |
hopefully not :P |
01:15 |
VanessaE |
there, now it works. |
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crazyR |
lol blinkyplant's are lag machines lol. i discouragethe use of them as much as posible... i cant wait to see if this update tothe abm makes any diffrence |
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VanessaE |
all a blinky plant does now is cycle on and off with an ABM. if it lags something, it's because of what you connect to it. |
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jojoa1997 |
can I change the pitch on play_sound? |
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VanessaE |
dunno, jojo |
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Also the entity is seethrough does anyone know why that happens the code is the same in here http://pastebin.com/5xcThaGU |
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blaise |
anyone alive? |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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blaise |
VanessaE: hello.. trying to figure things out with this uranium refinery has caused problems between my wife and I |
05:22 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
ooookay |
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blaise |
apparently I prefer to play minetest over spending time with her.. :G |
05:23 |
VanessaE |
I can't take the blame for that :P |
05:23 |
blaise |
no, I would never try to shift blame |
05:23 |
VanessaE |
...much :) |
05:23 |
blaise |
I'm well aware that I spend too much time playing minetest |
05:23 |
VanessaE |
I suggest you close IRC and go resolve that problem post-haste. |
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blaise |
well, she's asleep I think |
05:24 |
VanessaE |
you're fucked. |
05:24 |
blaise |
and I'm doing laundry |
05:24 |
VanessaE |
tomorrow you better have one hell of a breakfast ready for her :) |
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blaise |
meh, she's fed our son 2 times in the last month. |
05:25 |
VanessaE |
doesn't matter. |
05:25 |
blaise |
she never hardly talks to him |
05:25 |
blaise |
and earlyer in the week she threatened to end things because I wouldn't go get a bag of pot for her |
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blaise |
further more, I would nore have ever picked this game over her |
05:26 |
VanessaE |
are my husband and I simply the last two people left on earth who've figured this whole thing out? |
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* VanessaE |
grumbles |
05:26 |
VanessaE |
I feel old now. |
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blaise |
lol |
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blaise |
how does that make you feel old |
05:27 |
blaise |
? |
05:27 |
VanessaE |
because that ^^^^^ sort of argument was unheard-of in the not-so-distant past. |
05:27 |
blaise |
indeed. |
05:28 |
VanessaE |
but the younger folks seem to just keep getting it wrong (no offense) |
05:29 |
blaise |
she's pissed becuase she can't "have fun" as she calls it |
05:30 |
VanessaE |
I mean, seriously... problems because you game too much? threatening a break-up because you wouldn't go fetch a bag of weed? |
05:30 |
VanessaE |
what's wrong with this picture? |
05:30 |
blaise |
and I'm just not the party person/bar fly that I once was |
05:30 |
VanessaE |
how old are you two? |
05:30 |
blaise |
I'm 35 and she's 27 |
05:30 |
blaise |
28, |
05:30 |
VanessaE |
so not so much younger than me (40) |
05:30 |
blaise |
nah, I totally regret the 80's.. |
05:31 |
blaise |
XD |
05:31 |
blaise |
piano lessons from a guy that looked like boy george at the time.. |
05:31 |
VanessaE |
the 80's are an era that's best forgotten |
05:31 |
VanessaE |
aside from 8-bit computers, some movies, and some music. |
05:34 |
VanessaE |
the 90's too. only good to come out of that era is the WWW. |
05:34 |
blaise |
meh, I miss gopher clients |
05:34 |
VanessaE |
(that some would say that THAT is questionable) |
05:35 |
VanessaE |
hah, case in point ;P |
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blaise |
I'm still rather upset about how the commercialization of the internet happened |
05:35 |
VanessaE |
that doesn't bug me too much |
05:35 |
blaise |
and how people think the web is the internet.. |
05:35 |
VanessaE |
Ads are what bug me. hence I run adblock. |
05:36 |
VanessaE |
or more specifically, |
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blaise |
she refers to me on irc as "Channeling martians" |
05:36 |
VanessaE |
Ads on sites that don't need them, and then people who bitch that the internet isn't free and sites can't possibly be free, are what bug me |
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blaise |
lol |
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VanessaE |
(meanwhile I pay $29 a month for my dedicated server and you don't see me serving up ads or asking for donations to cover that cost) |
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blaise |
indeed |
05:37 |
blaise |
kinda like how cable companies started out.. |
05:37 |
blaise |
"Commercial Free TV!!" |
05:37 |
blaise |
then two years later, they want you to pay, AND they get paid to air commercials.. |
05:37 |
VanessaE |
if I, poor as folk, can afford that, some little podunk website that gets half the traffic my server gets, can afford a $5 VPS without showing ads |
05:38 |
VanessaE |
so don't cry to me about costs. |
05:38 |
VanessaE |
(traffic measured in terms of bandwidth, not views) |
05:41 |
VanessaE |
well I think I'm done bitching for now. off to bed with me |
05:41 |
VanessaE |
night |
05:43 |
blaise |
o/ |
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[Git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Add LuaVoxelManip methods: get_node_at() and set_node_at() f3eefeb http://git.io/abjdmg (2014-09-01T17:33:21-04:00) |
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cg72 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10046 |
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cg72 |
go get this mod guys :D |
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hisforever |
hi I need to know how do I get water? |
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hisforever |
is any body on here ? |
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hisforever |
hi is anybody here? |
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twoelk |
hisforever: make a bucket, scoop up a water source, which is the not moving, always one block high water sort |
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twoelk |
or get a block of snow/ice place it and melt it by placing a torch nearby |
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hisforever |
ty Twolk |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Great Fire of London Day! :-D |
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Jordach |
this must be scripted |
08:42 |
JamesTait |
Heheh. :) |
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Jordach |
:3 |
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JamesTait |
I suppose it is, in a way - by historical events. |
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blues101 |
Greetings, any way to have the TNT explode only below surface? Thank you. |
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blues101 |
I did find lava code so it can not be placed above ground but I'm new to setting up servers. |
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gorilla |
hi all. I'm setting up a MT server on Linux (debian). And want to install the meru mod, which file do I edit to enable it and where's the best spot to unzip the mod zip file. |
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PilzAdam |
gorilla, how have you installed Minetest? |
11:25 |
gorilla |
PilzAdam: Yep. And all is working. Just installing the mod for server that has me stuck. |
11:26 |
PilzAdam |
how have you installed Minetest? a system-wide installation or a run in place version? |
11:27 |
gorilla |
PilzAdam: oh sorry. missed that word :-P. System side. worldedit (from deb package) ended up in /usr/share/games/minetest/mods |
11:28 |
PilzAdam |
ok, install your mods to ~/.minetest/mods/ then |
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PilzAdam |
(create if it doesn't exist yet) |
11:28 |
gorilla |
where ~ is the user that the server runs as? |
11:28 |
PilzAdam |
yes, the home directory of that user |
11:28 |
gorilla |
ta.. will try that. |
11:30 |
PilzAdam |
also the place where your package manager installed wordledit is not exactly correct |
11:30 |
gorilla |
PilzAdam: oh? |
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PilzAdam |
or wait |
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iqualfragile |
gorilla: i would strongly recommend stopping whatever you are doing at the moment, then learning how to operate linux and then comming back |
11:31 |
PilzAdam |
can you paste the output of minetest --version? |
11:31 |
iqualfragile |
at the moment the most likely outcome of your doing will be a security nightmare |
11:32 |
gorilla |
iqualfragile: It's not a public server. Nor will it be. |
11:32 |
iqualfragile |
will there be any way to reach it from the internet? |
11:32 |
gorilla |
PilzAdam: the server version is 0.4.10. |
11:33 |
gorilla |
iqualfragile: Nope. |
11:34 |
PilzAdam |
gorilla, can you run minetest with --info and post the "path_share" line? (should be the second line) |
11:34 |
gorilla |
PilzAdam: INFO[main]: path_share = /usr/share/games/minetest |
11:35 |
PilzAdam |
ah ok, the worldedit mod is correctly installed then |
11:35 |
PilzAdam |
my fault |
11:36 |
gorilla |
PilzAdam: worldedit is stock install from the repo. If it was incorrect, then the error is upstream :-D |
11:37 |
gorilla |
Linux Distro: Debian (Jessie) |
11:38 |
gorilla |
iqualfragile: I'm more than familar with Linux, just not the finer detail of Minetest. :-) |
11:38 |
PilzAdam |
anyway; if you placed your mod in ~/.minetest/ then you need to enable it |
11:38 |
gorilla |
PilzAdam: ta |
11:38 |
PilzAdam |
the best way to do that is start the server for a few seconds |
11:38 |
iqualfragile |
gorilla: thats why you asked what ~ means, right? |
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gorilla |
iqualfragile: Oh. That was a brain fart. |
11:39 |
PilzAdam |
then kill it, go to the world directory (should be in ~/.minetest/worlds/) and edit world.mt |
11:39 |
gorilla |
PilzAdam: doign that atm. |
11:42 |
gorilla |
PilzAdam: mod has loaded. Thanks. |
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AnotherBrick |
does items have metainfo? or only nodes do? |
11:56 |
Jordach |
only noads |
11:56 |
Jordach |
oh god my spelling has fallen apart |
11:57 |
* PenguinDad |
meows at Jordach |
11:57 |
Jordach |
meow |
11:57 |
* Jordach |
should make a Console Peasant Language Scheme for Minetest |
11:58 |
AnotherBrick |
ok. thanks Jordach |
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WidDos: 07-26 15:49 UTC <frogfish> Hello |
12:21 |
WidDos |
Hey Celeron55. Been a long time talked to you |
12:24 |
gorilla |
PilzAdam: Just need find the option to stop packets being log to debug.txt "5 <- 1.1.1.1:ebb1, size=b, data= 4f45 7403 0002 0200 0053 ae". that IP addres has been altered here. |
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PilzAdam |
AnotherBrick, items can have metadata too |
12:25 |
PilzAdam |
its a single string only, though |
12:26 |
PilzAdam |
gorilla, hm? |
12:27 |
gorilla |
PilzAdam: I'm getting lines like what have been quoted above being logged in debug.txt... just looking to find the config option to make them stop. |
12:27 |
WidDos |
I think you add it in the minetest.conf |
12:28 |
gorilla |
WidDos: yep. I thought it was debug-log-level but not sure. |
12:29 |
PilzAdam |
gorilla, do you run with --verbose or --info? |
12:29 |
AnotherBrick |
yay Adam! boo Jordach |
12:29 |
PilzAdam |
oh wait, debug.txt |
12:29 |
Jordach |
AnotherBrick, not in the context i was thinking of |
12:30 |
PilzAdam |
its debug_log_level, IIRC; see minetest.conf.example |
12:32 |
WidDos |
What is "verbose" log level do? |
12:34 |
AnotherBrick |
ok, to make context clear i'll ask - is it possible to write mod that will make it possible to find out who the heck stole my favourite sword with insription "to AnotherBrick from loving MaryJane"? |
12:35 |
WidDos |
That would come in handy AnotherBrick if you had a bank. |
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gorilla |
PilzAdam: I think those message where actually coming from the start-stop-daemon command. Sorry about that. |
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nax |
wow, Idris is amazing |
12:43 |
PenguinDad |
nax: Sorry but I'm not religous :) |
12:44 |
nax |
what? |
12:44 |
nax |
!g idris-lang |
12:44 |
MinetestBot |
nax: http://www.idris-lang.org/ |
12:44 |
nax |
PenguinDad, ^ |
12:44 |
gorilla |
PenguinDad: :-D |
12:47 |
* Jordach |
begins ressurrection |
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PenguinDad |
nax: That looks interesting |
12:49 |
nax |
http://eb.host.cs.st-andrews.ac.uk/writings/idris-tutorial.pdf |
12:49 |
nax |
Haskell is a good gateway drug to Idris |
12:49 |
* RealBadAngel |
plays for Jordach die and respawn theme: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/mp3-royaltyfree/Rains%20Will%20Fall.mp3 |
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sfan5 |
nax: hi |
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MinetestBot |
[Git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetestmapper: Fix number rounding, clarify comment and change var. names 1c47825 http://git.io/8FZb_g (2014-09-02T14:49:56+02:00) |
12:51 |
nax |
hi sfan5 |
12:53 |
gorilla |
RealBadAngel: Nice track. |
12:53 |
RealBadAngel |
and something for autumn: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/mp3-royaltyfree/Autumn%20Day.mp3 |
12:54 |
gorilla |
RealBadAngel: That can wait around six months for me :-P |
12:55 |
Jordach |
stock music is never good as hand crafted for one purpose |
12:56 |
RealBadAngel |
this one is very good quality |
12:56 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean this guys work |
12:57 |
RealBadAngel |
the site holds pieces only of one author, hundreds of them |
12:58 |
RealBadAngel |
http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/mp3-royaltyfree/The%20Complex.mp3 |
12:59 |
RealBadAngel |
http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/mp3-royaltyfree/Our%20Story%20Begins.mp3 |
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RealBadAngel |
http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/mp3-royaltyfree/Invariance.mp3 |
13:01 |
RealBadAngel |
this one is meant for main menu: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/mp3-royaltyfree/The%20Descent.mp3 |
13:01 |
Jordach |
and you keep proving my theorem on why OSS Gaming doesn't get far |
13:01 |
Jordach |
using stock crap is low quality |
13:01 |
sfan5 |
that music is not crap |
13:01 |
RealBadAngel |
make better ones :P |
13:01 |
sfan5 |
it's good |
13:01 |
* Jordach |
did that 2 years ago |
13:01 |
sfan5 |
but music made for a specific purpose is usually better suited |
13:01 |
RealBadAngel |
Jordach, those tunes are excellent |
13:02 |
RealBadAngel |
and we can use them freely |
13:02 |
gorilla |
RealBadAngel: The Descent reminds me of Battle for Wesnoth... a fun turn based game. |
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RealBadAngel |
and for me it reminds The Rock |
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RealBadAngel |
music made by Hans Zimmer |
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RealBadAngel |
pretty same style |
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Jordach |
i do more digging than building https://cdn.mediacru.sh/XXHEDljVIdwF.jpg |
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PenguinDad |
these fingernails are long O_O |
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Jordach |
PenguinDad, i grow at a faster rate |
13:43 |
Jordach |
if i were to continually do so my beard would regrow in less than 24 hours |
13:44 |
Jordach |
because cutting hair makes it grow even faster |
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T4im |
that's a myth.. the hair is dead.. it doesnt care about being cut or not |
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Jordach |
T4im, i leave my hair for a month and it's already long |
13:45 |
Jordach |
(doesn't mean to say i push hair strands out extremely fast) |
13:45 |
T4im |
well.. its being grown.. but the rate is the same |
13:45 |
T4im |
at least independend of being cut |
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T4im |
and how long after a month? O_o |
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T4im |
1-2cm would still be usual, i think |
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crazyR |
anyone know the package name for irrlicht on centos 6 |
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stormchaser3000 |
um i think i found a forum spam post |
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stormchaser3000 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=152879#p152879 |
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stormchaser3000 |
just was wondering if that is sam or not (gotgold5x's pos) |
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stormchaser3000 |
spam* |
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Jordach |
dat be spam |
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stormchaser3000 |
ok |
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crazyR |
works better when slipped into bottles of coke :D |
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nman3600 |
I'm not eating the mint ones though :( |
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nman3600 |
Have you heard about the new choco flavoured ones? |
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crazyR |
nope |
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meows at nman3600 |
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kk |
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RealTinyMonster |
HI! |
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MEOW |
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Mikeonline |
hi |
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Mikeonline |
is it right that areas mod updates the hud on every server step? |
16:26 |
crazyR |
yes otherwise you wont know when your in someone elses area |
16:27 |
crazyR |
although it would be cool if there was a way where it would only update when a place moved into a new chunk |
16:28 |
crazyR |
is there a way to detect a player moving into a new chunk without relying on server step |
16:28 |
crazyR |
im thinking to far into it lol |
16:28 |
crazyR |
a simple solution would be to check the value thats the hud is set to and only update it if it has changed |
16:29 |
crazyR |
ive also noticed a lot of mods are not using the update hud properly. some mods are removing the hud then using the set hud to update it :/ |
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16:43 |
Mikeonline |
farming mod sucks CPU |
16:43 |
Mikeonline |
hm |
16:43 |
Mikeonline |
my first thought was areas would eat cpu |
16:43 |
Mikeonline |
now i removed all except farming |
16:44 |
Mikeonline |
and the spikes seem to be gone |
16:47 |
Mikeonline |
has someone noticed performance issues with "farming"? |
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T4im |
Mikeonline: maybe mod profiling support helps finding the bad mod: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/c24e0753fc240636b2f9b1889554649e67c9046c |
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Mikeonline |
T4im: maybe |
17:04 |
Mikeonline |
actually i try to go back to all default server settings first |
17:04 |
Mikeonline |
i used in 0.4.3/4 which worked fine |
17:06 |
Mikeonline |
i feel pushed back into the good old dos games time |
17:06 |
Mikeonline |
:D |
17:08 |
Mikeonline |
the cpu load why flying alone is with all mods except farming about: 10% |
17:08 |
Mikeonline |
with all tuning in minetest.conf |
17:08 |
Mikeonline |
if i add farming it grows to near 30% |
17:08 |
Mikeonline |
thats hard |
17:11 |
Calinou |
<crazyR> yes otherwise you wont know when your in someone elses area |
17:11 |
Calinou |
most mods that interact with the HUD will happily exploit things to slow down the server |
17:11 |
Calinou |
people should stop making such things |
17:12 |
Calinou |
we desperately need bindable commands :( |
17:12 |
Mikeonline |
after i add --dofile(farming.path .. "/nodes.lua") the issue is gone too with farming mod |
17:13 |
Mikeonline |
i go on isolating the problem |
17:16 |
Mikeonline |
who wonders its the abm.. |
17:16 |
Mikeonline |
not surprising |
17:17 |
Mikeonline |
it seems that all default:dirt nodes get the group soil |
17:18 |
Mikeonline |
so all nodes of dirt are handled by the abm |
17:18 |
Mikeonline |
for each node the neighbour water is checked |
17:18 |
Mikeonline |
is this asumption correct? |
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17:22 |
blaise |
what's the default resolution for minetest ? |
17:23 |
twoelk |
800*600? |
17:23 |
blaise |
hrmm |
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17:24 |
twoelk |
at least I get that message on startup in windows |
17:29 |
Mikeonline |
hm |
17:29 |
Mikeonline |
i "fixed" the bug i think |
17:29 |
Mikeonline |
now farming needs to be checked/fixed |
17:30 |
Mikeonline |
damn |
17:31 |
Mikeonline |
in github it seems to be changed |
17:32 |
Calinou |
screenW = 800 |
17:32 |
Calinou |
screenH = 600 |
17:32 |
Calinou |
are the defaults, blaise |
17:32 |
Calinou |
(sadly: 16:9 resolution would have been better, like screenW = 1024) |
17:33 |
Calinou |
or even 1366 × 768 |
17:33 |
Calinou |
but 1024 × 600 is more compatiblr |
17:33 |
sfan5 |
how about actually suggessting that change instead of complaining |
17:33 |
Calinou |
I thought of making an issue |
17:33 |
sfan5 |
the res MC uses would be ok too |
17:33 |
Calinou |
no |
17:33 |
sfan5 |
why not? |
17:33 |
Calinou |
MC uses a random resolution that doesn't mean much |
17:33 |
Calinou |
too small, too |
17:34 |
Calinou |
let's use something that makes sense |
17:34 |
sfan5 |
qHD |
17:34 |
sfan5 |
960x... |
17:34 |
sfan5 |
what was it... |
17:34 |
sfan5 |
540 |
17:34 |
sfan5 |
!c (960/540, 16/9) |
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Krock |
hello? |
17:40 |
Calinou |
isn't qHD 2560 × 1440? |
17:40 |
Mikeonline |
grrr grrr :D |
17:41 |
Mikeonline |
i debuged hours and then it is fixed in git already :D |
17:41 |
Mikeonline |
+g |
17:41 |
celeron55 |
oh, i just got some glorious feedback from our good friend Jesse |
17:41 |
Mikeonline |
development is so fast.. |
17:41 |
celeron55 |
>was wondering if there was a way you could add options to lower the |
17:41 |
celeron55 |
>graphice because on my laptop it lags like hell. Thanks |
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celeron55 |
8D |
17:41 |
Mikeonline |
ah cel55 has awaken from the death |
17:42 |
celeron55 |
one of these "lol who is this kid -- i don't even" emails that i sometimes get |
17:42 |
Mikeonline |
can is suggest some protection code to be added to farmin using pastebin or forum? |
17:43 |
celeron55 |
suggesting anything to me is likely to make nothing happen, suggest it to whoever is currently making or maintaining the thing you are concerned of |
17:44 |
Mikeonline |
not to you c55 :) |
17:44 |
Mikeonline |
maybe Calinou |
17:44 |
celeron55 |
oh good |
17:44 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: no |
17:44 |
Mikeonline |
c55 is out of business i think |
17:44 |
Mikeonline |
c55 do you know the perfect settings for a p4 low cpu with much ram and 10mbit bandwith? |
17:44 |
celeron55 |
i'm in... other business |
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sfan5 |
:D |
17:45 |
sfan5 |
Mikeonline: for a server? |
17:45 |
Mikeonline |
ive seen your forum post.. but its p4/slow/less or fast/big |
17:45 |
sfan5 |
try the performance settings in that case |
17:45 |
Mikeonline |
yes |
17:45 |
sfan5 |
and lower the number of blocks sent |
17:45 |
Mikeonline |
so i cant use more ram and bandwith with less cpu? |
17:45 |
sfan5 |
consult minetest.conf.example for docs |
17:45 |
celeron55 |
that sounds like you have infinite everything except CPU |
17:45 |
sfan5 |
no |
17:45 |
Mikeonline |
i use actually the old c55 settings from board |
17:45 |
Mikeonline |
and the old default settings from source of 0.4.4 |
17:45 |
sfan5 |
you can't trade bandwith/ram/cpu |
17:46 |
sfan5 |
+d |
17:46 |
Mikeonline |
c55 true |
17:46 |
celeron55 |
if you run heavy mods, it's going to be slow on a P4 |
17:46 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: QHD -> 2560x1440, qHD -> 960x540 |
17:47 |
celeron55 |
are you running it at the moment? |
17:47 |
Mikeonline |
i thought it would be possible to send much data to the clients without calculating the changes. |
17:47 |
celeron55 |
does it run notably badly with your current settings and how is that visible? |
17:48 |
Mikeonline |
after tuning and debugging it runs fine i think now |
17:48 |
Mikeonline |
farming mod some days ago was horrible buggy |
17:48 |
celeron55 |
oh, well, go and enjoy it then 8) |
17:48 |
Mikeonline |
so there is no recommendation to tune it more? ;) |
17:50 |
celeron55 |
if it works, don't fix it |
17:50 |
Mikeonline |
http://pastebin.com/B6hpkv1T this is my current set |
17:51 |
Mikeonline |
some things are commented out because i dont know how it could be set better |
17:52 |
celeron55 |
i recommend commenting out everything that you don't understand :P chances are you'll just worsen the experience |
17:52 |
Mikeonline |
with this setting i get about 10%/10% p4/ht load if i fly around alone fast |
17:52 |
Mikeonline |
thats why i commented out so much :) |
17:53 |
Mikeonline |
on pastebin i showed my conf by 29 lines only |
17:53 |
sfan5 |
profiler_print_interval = 0 |
17:53 |
sfan5 |
enable_mapgen_debug_info = false |
17:53 |
sfan5 |
those probably don't have any effect at all |
17:53 |
Mikeonline |
thats making sure the default stays on updates |
17:53 |
celeron55 |
anyway, if you get too much cpu load with those, setting dedicated_server_step higher (0.2 is probably still usable) will lessen it if you use a lot of mods that do active processing all the time but also worsens the experience |
17:53 |
sfan5 |
we won't change the default to print debug messages |
17:54 |
sfan5 |
num_emerge_threads = 1 might also worsen it depending on cpu |
17:54 |
Calinou |
can you stash commits from GitHub? |
17:54 |
Calinou |
I'd like to edit 2 files in a single commit |
17:54 |
Calinou |
without having to clone the repository |
17:54 |
sfan5 |
stash is not something you do to commits |
17:54 |
sfan5 |
or is it? |
17:54 |
celeron55 |
the correct word is squash |
17:54 |
Mikeonline |
use svn gateway? |
17:54 |
sfan5 |
# s, squash = use commit, but meld into previous commit |
17:54 |
sfan5 |
yeah |
17:55 |
sfan5 |
no, you can't do that on the web interface |
17:55 |
Mikeonline |
num_emerge_threads = 1 means it uses one core? |
17:55 |
Calinou |
Mikeonline, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8217145/ |
17:55 |
Calinou |
try these settings |
17:55 |
Mikeonline |
because p4 has HT it could be better not to use the second |
17:55 |
celeron55 |
isn't 1 the default anyway |
17:55 |
Calinou |
1 is the default |
17:56 |
Calinou |
higher values are less efficient, lots of concurrency |
17:56 |
celeron55 |
and higher values are buggier too |
17:56 |
sfan5 |
default is 1 |
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Mikeonline |
Calinou: you increased max_simultaneous_block_sends_per_client to 5 and server to 30. i had 2 & 20. can you tell my why this is better? |
18:01 |
Calinou |
1600th pull request made |
18:02 |
Calinou |
Mikeonline, it depends on your bandwidth |
18:02 |
Calinou |
this sends blocks quicker |
18:02 |
Mikeonline |
wont it increase cpu load if many players fly around? |
18:02 |
Calinou |
no |
18:02 |
Calinou |
generate/send distance is decreased |
18:02 |
Mikeonline |
bandwith is about 10mbit/s upstream |
18:02 |
Calinou |
active block range is decreased (this helps hugely) |
18:03 |
Calinou |
lol, Travis is building for just 1 variable change |
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blaise |
what would cause this? 13:06:28: ERROR[ServerThread]: ServerEnv: Trying to store id=38888 statically but block (-3,1,10) already contains 539 objects. Forcing delete. |
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blaise |
it just keeps saying it over and over and over |
18:07 |
Mikeonline |
Calinou: i can hardly meter it but it seems raising these values raises the cpu load too. i think the server has too much work forming so many network packets |
18:07 |
blaise |
then I get one of these, and the number increases |
18:07 |
blaise |
13:06:54: ERROR[ServerThread]: ServerEnvironment::deactivateFarObjects(): id=38904 m_static_exists=true but static data doesn't actually exist in (-3,1,10) |
18:07 |
blaise |
WARNING: StaticObjectList::remove(): id=38904 not found |
18:08 |
blaise |
13:06:54: ERROR[ServerThread]: ServerEnv: Trying to store id=38904 statically but block (-3,1,10) already contains 540 objects. Forcing delete. |
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sfan5 |
blaise: too many entities |
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twoelk |
what is in block (-3,1,10)? a sheep farm out of control? |
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twoelk |
a busted pipe? |
18:12 |
sfan5 |
lol |
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Mikeonline |
jabadabadu :P |
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blaise |
twoelk: I can't seem to do anything when I log in |
18:19 |
blaise |
so I can't find out |
18:19 |
blaise |
even if I teleport, I can see where I was but nothing else |
18:21 |
blaise |
interestingly enough, the irc mod is working just fine |
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blaise |
13:22 <minetest> Players On Channel:, finn, blaise, Wiver, waynii, mojuave, lockdown, polik |
18:23 |
blaise |
I'm only supposed to have 5 people on at a time |
18:23 |
blaise |
!server MidnightSystems |
18:23 |
MinetestBot |
blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 2/5, 1/4 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 337ms |
18:23 |
blaise |
:G |
18:24 |
Mikeonline |
thx for config tuning @ Calinou @ celeron55 |
18:24 |
Mikeonline |
and sfan5 ;) |
18:24 |
sfan5 |
hooary |
18:24 |
sfan5 |
!server meow |
18:24 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Meowtest 0.4.10 "SEGFAULTY" | minetest.org:30018 | Clients: 5/25, 3/6 | Version: 0.4.10 / meowtest_game | Ping: 979ms |
18:25 |
Krock |
!server orm |
18:25 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: Krock's Ultimative Platform | minetest.ntdll.net | Clients: 0/25, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 643ms |
18:25 |
sfan5 |
!server players:most |
18:25 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: [RUSSIA, RO] pirates-bay | 193.111.2.133 | Clients: 20/40, 12/22 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 72ms |
18:25 |
sfan5 |
>russia |
18:25 |
Krock |
putin. |
18:25 |
sfan5 |
puten? |
18:25 |
Mikeonline |
!server dlk |
18:26 |
blaise |
so, I think someone is attacking my server somehow |
18:26 |
blaise |
after I restarted it someone tried to login with the username "heheh" |
18:26 |
twoelk |
blaise: maybe the server couldn't decide whom to deny access? |
18:26 |
sfan5 |
Mikeonline: you are banned from using minetestbot, remember? |
18:26 |
Mikeonline |
:P |
18:26 |
Mikeonline |
thats bad sfan |
18:26 |
sfan5 |
not my fault |
18:26 |
sfan5 |
you started misusing !tell |
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18:27 |
Mikeonline |
you seduced me to :P |
18:27 |
Mikeonline |
anyway the ban is useless |
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18:27 |
blaise |
if sfan5 dangles peach cobbler with vanilla ice cream over a cliff, are you going to leap for it? |
18:28 |
sfan5 |
useless? |
18:28 |
sfan5 |
why? |
18:28 |
Mikeonline |
yes |
18:28 |
Mikeonline |
just wasting memory ;) |
18:28 |
sfan5 |
pff |
18:28 |
sfan5 |
I have enough |
18:28 |
Mikeonline |
it could be circumvented easy |
18:28 |
* blaise |
detects troll activities and points his attention back to his minetest server |
18:28 |
Mikeonline |
and i dont plan to abuse the bot ;) |
18:28 |
Mikeonline |
blaise detected himself :) |
18:29 |
* Krock |
gives blaise a lava - & water bucket |
18:29 |
sfan5 |
!unignore *!*@unaffiliated/mikeonline |
18:29 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: '*!*@unaffiliated/mikeonline' removed from ignore list. |
18:29 |
Mikeonline |
thx |
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Mikeonline |
i think my server is ready for production use now after upgrading many days from 0.4.3 |
18:32 |
Mikeonline |
now i have to think if i announce.. |
18:32 |
Mikeonline |
not if.. when.. |
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crazyR |
can anyone look through this and let me know if it should work ok? https://gist.github.com/MarkTraceur/998260 |
19:24 |
* Jordach |
rubs his shoes on the 8th ring oh hell's doormat https://cdn.mediacru.sh/wCqsnF4RMOuX.jpg |
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Calinou |
whoa, marktraceur started playing before me |
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crazyR |
lol what you think. would it work on a centos6 os |
19:27 |
crazyR |
i cnt see anything out of place but ive not messed with init scripts to much |
19:28 |
Calinou |
no idea |
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PenguinDad |
Calinou: 1024×600 is not 16:9 |
19:36 |
Exio |
it is NEARLY 1024x600! |
19:36 |
Calinou |
right :/ |
19:36 |
Calinou |
but it's a common resolution on netbooks |
19:36 |
Calinou |
I won't bother doing the PR again :: |
19:36 |
Exio |
<- using 1024x600 right now |
19:36 |
Calinou |
I'll change description accordingly |
19:36 |
Exio |
Calinou, what laptop did you have? |
19:37 |
Exio |
(netbook) |
19:37 |
Calinou |
an eeePC |
19:37 |
Exio |
specs please |
19:37 |
Exio |
there are a few different eeePCs as far as i know |
19:38 |
Calinou |
Intel Atom N455, 1 GB DDR3-1066… |
19:38 |
Exio |
like i said "acer aspire one", there are a few different AAOs |
19:38 |
Exio |
N455, which GMA? |
19:38 |
Calinou |
no idea |
19:38 |
Calinou |
it runs Minetest slowly, at 15-20 FPS, no point playing anyway |
19:38 |
Exio |
1024x600 => 128/75 |
19:38 |
Calinou |
it's incredibly better on desktop :P |
19:39 |
Exio |
Calinou, is it a dual core atom? |
19:39 |
Exio |
(with 64bit support)? |
19:39 |
Exio |
if it is, then you've a super-shitty gpu i think, like i have right now |
19:40 |
Exio |
my older intel atom (n270) was waay better |
19:41 |
Exio |
it doesn't make sense, does it? |
19:42 |
Exio |
i'm comparing an intel atom with two cores at 1.6ghz, newer gen, with 2x ram, and an igp that is supposed to be able to play 1080p without problems (even thought it can't), with a single core (32bit-only) n270 with only core at 1.6ghz and had 1gb of ram (i still have the module :P) and a sucky intel gma |
19:42 |
Exio |
still sad |
19:44 |
sfan5 |
Exio: ur sad |
19:44 |
Exio |
yes, because you're not a real catamorphism |
19:45 |
sfan5 |
meow |
19:45 |
sfan5 |
:3 |
19:46 |
Exio |
you're still not a cat |
20:02 |
Calinou |
Exio, 64 bit, but 1 core with HT only |
20:02 |
Calinou |
1.6 Ghz |
20:03 |
Exio |
ahm |
20:03 |
Exio |
so a mid-thing between my old atom and this one |
20:03 |
Exio |
i should tell him to compile a kernel config |
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hisforever |
Hi everybody |
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hisforever |
I'd like t know how to plant Pine Cones? |
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twoelk |
if you want to plant a tree you will need a sapling of that tree sort |
20:12 |
hisforever |
bow this sure is a feriendly channel |
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hisforever |
Dose anyone know how to plant Pine Cones? |
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twoelk |
? |
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* Jordach |
pokes VanessaE |
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hisforever |
I went into the woods and saw A pine tree and cut it down got Pine Cones they are the seeds how Do I plant them? |
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hisforever |
ty twoelk for at least putting up a ? |
20:16 |
Mikeonline |
n7+1 |
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twoelk |
did you not get any sapplings? |
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20:16 |
PenguinDad |
hisforever: you can't plant pine cones |
20:17 |
hisforever |
ok ty |
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hisforever |
so there not a renuable source of wood? |
20:18 |
twoelk |
if you cut a tree you normally get sapplings. these you can plant |
20:19 |
twoelk |
what mod is the pine from? more_trees? |
20:19 |
hisforever |
well from this pint tree I got the cones |
20:20 |
twoelk |
hisforever: are you running singleplayer with a certain game? |
20:20 |
twoelk |
or are you on some server? |
20:20 |
hisforever |
I'm on a server m.ayntest.net |
20:21 |
hisforever |
yes a server |
20:21 |
twoelk |
type /mods and see if you can see any tree mod |
20:21 |
hisforever |
ok ty |
20:21 |
hisforever |
ty so mucuh your great |
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VanessaE |
hisforever: moretrees' pine cones are not plantable. they are a source of food. you need saplings to replant. get those from digging at the leaves (or they should drop to the ground if you let the leaves decay) |
20:44 |
VanessaE |
same as with a default tree. |
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twoelk |
hm, just took down a complete douglas fir on the "Liberty Land Minetest" (m.ayntest.net) server resulting in 2 sapplings and some 300 leaves |
20:59 |
twoelk |
might have done it wrong but that doesn't look like a sensible ratio |
20:59 |
VanessaE |
that's a little low, yes |
20:59 |
VanessaE |
unless they changed the ratio, you should have ended up with closer to 10-15 saplings |
21:00 |
VanessaE |
(I'm pretty sure the ratio is still 20:1) |
21:02 |
twoelk |
lots of moretrees just missing the bottom trunks here. That's no good to harvest any saplings :-( |
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21:14 |
VanessaE |
screenshot? |
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VanessaE |
or do you mean people just being lazy when digging them? |
21:19 |
twoelk |
lazy people |
21:19 |
twoelk |
it seems |
21:19 |
twoelk |
no wonder they get no sapplings |
21:19 |
twoelk |
on other server now |
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VanessaE |
oh ok |
21:32 |
twoelk |
interesting, just fell into a hole on Xanadu server. A hole covered with thin snow. Shouldn't snow fall if there is air underneath? Pretty good trap this is though :-D |
21:38 |
VanessaE |
it's supposed to, yeah |
21:38 |
VanessaE |
unless something walkable is holding it up :) |
21:38 |
VanessaE |
or it was worldedited in :P |
21:40 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
21:44 |
twoelk |
rather gavegen grieving. Xanadu has lots of signs of that |
21:45 |
twoelk |
*cavegen |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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zat |
http://rubmint.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/ed1a0_epic-fail-perv.jpg |
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MinetestBot |
Inocudom: 08-26 10:04 UTC <sfan5> that branch wasn't mapgen v5, just an old v6. |
22:24 |
Inocudom |
sfan5: Oh, I see. I, for a moment, had hoped that you had added deserts to mapgen v5. This is important because Freeminer has that mapgen in it. |
22:24 |
Inocudom |
It looks like proller will have to take care of that. He did add ore generation to it. |
22:33 |
Inocudom |
cg72 isn't here right now. I came to tell her about the new commits to Minetest and that she will probably want to merge those into her fork of Minetest: https://github.com/MineTime-game/minetime |
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Vazon |
VanessaE: using plant_lib to generate the saplings worked great but is there any way to weed the saplings out from growing in jungles and forests?? |
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wbsw |
Any news on a MIPS port of minetest? |
23:51 |
marioxcc |
wbsw: yes, it failed |
23:51 |
wbsw |
dammit |
23:51 |
marioxcc |
hehe, I'm kidding |
23:51 |
wbsw |
yay |
23:51 |
marioxcc |
but they ported it to brainfuck, did you know? :) |
23:52 |
wbsw |
Speaking of porting, i asked here before about porting to the Gcw zero |
23:53 |
marioxcc |
by the way, “they†didn't port it to brainfuck, I was kidding again, and I guess that you figured but |
23:53 |
marioxcc |
there are actually C to brainfuck compilers |
23:53 |
marioxcc |
http://esolangs.org/wiki/C2BF |
23:54 |
wbsw |
i came to see if a porting to the gcw zero is possible |
23:54 |
wbsw |
here are the specs |
23:54 |
wbsw |
http://www.gcw-zero.com/specifications |
23:56 |
marioxcc |
wbsw: those specs are wrong, Linux isn't an opearting system, it's a kernel |
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23:56 |
marioxcc |
and not even the “Linux operating system†whicn is GNU/Linux/X11/etc... has global versions like 3.x |
23:57 |
wbsw |
its a special linux kernal made for the GP2X |
23:57 |
wbsw |
anyways is it possible? |
23:58 |
marioxcc |
wbsw: I don't know about the internals of Minetest, but I suppose that it's quote doable, because Minetest is written in C++ mostly |
23:58 |
marioxcc |
and Lua |
23:58 |
marioxcc |
*quite |
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23:58 |
wbsw |
gcw zero has a Love app for running lua games |
23:58 |
marioxcc |
minetest isn't a Lua game, it uses Lua as an extension language |
23:59 |
wbsw |
Ah, ok. sorry if i sound tech-nooby, im a 10 year old |
23:59 |
marioxcc |
wbsw: no, it's fine. You need not tell our game, and need not apologize. |
23:59 |
wbsw |
Ok, thanks |
23:59 |
marioxcc |
*tell our game |
23:59 |
marioxcc |
oh, |
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