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Eater4 |
!tell jp__ Your Server map is up! |
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MinetestBot |
Eater4: I'll pass that on when jp__ is around |
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Vazon |
Eater4, did you here what the decided on the servers? |
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Exio4 |
Eater4: why that nick then! |
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Eater4 |
Vazon: they didn't care, as usual |
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Eater4 |
Exio4: lol |
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Vazon |
Ya |
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Eater4 |
Hm.... |
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Eater4 |
ShadowNinja? |
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sapier |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9389 another android preview release |
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Megaf |
us`0gb; Im fine, you? Did you manage to find some time? :PO |
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us`0gb |
Megaf: Not a whole lot of time to find. Time for what? |
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Megaf |
yourself |
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us`0gb |
None, sadly. |
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MinetestBot |
jp__: 06-21 00:17 UTC <Eater4> Your Server map is up! |
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jp__ |
Great ! What's address, Eater4 ? |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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OldCoder |
o/ kaeza |
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OldCoder |
zzz |
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Zeno` |
hi |
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nman3600 |
Hello |
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lulz |
hello :) |
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kaeza |
hi |
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HatedByMost |
hi |
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Calinou |
hi |
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nman3600 |
Hi |
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Calinou |
to GitHub, whining about something is a contribution \o/ |
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kaeza |
lol |
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Calinou |
I segfault when using third person on a 0.4.9 server :( |
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nman3600 |
Hello LemonLake I only just realised you've joined |
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LemonLake |
nman3600: Only just? Aight. |
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nman3600 |
I'm struggling to get reinforced cobble (it uses so many sticks) |
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LemonLake |
I'm working on a skype client, so I'll need your help quite a bit. |
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nman3600 |
K LemonLake |
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Calinou |
Skype client? Microsoft would like to hear back |
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Calinou |
really, you'll end up getting a C&D letter, Skype “replacement†clients aren't allowed |
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LemonLake |
Calinou: For personal use. |
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LemonLake |
Microsoft have ditched their product for Linux and I rely on Skype for a lot of things. The linux one just does not work. |
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Calinou |
have fun having something functional anyway… |
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LemonLake |
Also, I just want to learn the skype protocol, python and wxWidgets. |
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nman3600 |
*sigh* Getting reinforced cobble (from darkage) is such a pain in the ass to craft |
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LemonLake |
Either way, what I want or do not want to do is none of your business. |
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LemonLake |
I was speaking to nman. |
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nman3600 |
:) |
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Calinou |
what's the use of reinforced cobble? |
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Calinou |
if you're worried about griefing, hide your base underground |
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Calinou |
it'll take time to be discovered |
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LemonLake |
nman3600: Can I teamview you every now and then? I'll try not to disrupt your work |
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nman3600 |
LemonLake sure i'm online now and someones giving me the final reinforced cobble i need |
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LemonLake |
Okay. I'll send you a confirmation request whenever I need it. |
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HatedByMost |
Hay john_minetest |
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SylvieLorxu |
Parcel tracking is terrible |
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SylvieLorxu |
http://xkcd.com/281/ :( |
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HatedByMost |
Windows ftw |
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LemonLake |
since when |
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HatedByMost |
random |
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enchilado |
true level: so |
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SylvieLorxu |
I bought some music, last update: |
| 08:38 |
SylvieLorxu |
Your item cleared customs in NETHERLANDS at 1:49 am on June 21, 2014. |
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SylvieLorxu |
So it SHOULD probably arrive soon, but when? :P |
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enchilado |
It better be on vinyl |
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SylvieLorxu |
Nope, CD :P |
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enchilado |
Why would you buy physical music that wasn't on vinyl? |
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SylvieLorxu |
Because |
| 08:39 |
enchilado |
We have the Internet |
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enchilado |
The future is now |
| 08:39 |
SylvieLorxu |
- I like CDs |
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SylvieLorxu |
- I can play CDs in the car |
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enchilado |
... |
| 08:39 |
SylvieLorxu |
- What's wrong with CDs? |
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enchilado |
You can play digital music in your car |
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SylvieLorxu |
I can't |
| 08:39 |
enchilado |
They get damaged easily |
| 08:39 |
enchilado |
You can't access them from anywhere |
| 08:39 |
enchilado |
You can't listen to music from multiple CDs at once |
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SylvieLorxu |
I already have a FLAC copy of his entire discography anywhere |
| 08:39 |
SylvieLorxu |
>You can't listen to music from multiple CDs at once |
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enchilado |
Why can't you play digital music in your car? |
| 08:40 |
SylvieLorxu |
I wouldn't recommend to listen to more than one song at once in the first place |
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enchilado |
I'm sure you know what I meant |
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enchilado |
If you want to listen to a song from a different album or artist you need to take the CD out and put another one in |
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SylvieLorxu |
Because I can't, and I can't be bothered converting my music collection to a crappier format because I don't know any car audio player that plays FLAC |
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SylvieLorxu |
And CDs are nice to look at |
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enchilado |
Does your car have good enough speakers to make FLAC worthwhile? |
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SylvieLorxu |
http://cloudkickermusic.com/merch/the-discovery-cd-by-blood-music | http://cloudkickermusic.com/merch/the-eps-cd-by-blood-music |
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SylvieLorxu |
:P |
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enchilado |
Surely if your car's audio is that good it can play from a phone or MP3 player? |
| 08:41 |
SylvieLorxu |
Probably not, but converting my whole music collection to a worse format isn't worthwhile either |
| 08:42 |
SylvieLorxu |
I don't have enough storage on my phone to safe my music as FLAC |
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SylvieLorxu |
*save |
| 08:42 |
SylvieLorxu |
CDs just work and they're pretty |
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enchilado |
Surely there's some better solution than a CD :( |
| 08:42 |
SylvieLorxu |
Why would Vinyl even be better? |
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enchilado |
Couldn't you like burn the tracks you have onto one anyway rather than buying it |
| 08:42 |
SylvieLorxu |
No, because I want to support this artist |
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enchilado |
But you already bought the music |
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SylvieLorxu |
I mean sure I could but I don't want to |
| 08:43 |
SylvieLorxu |
No, I didn't, I downloaded it for Free from his homepage |
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enchilado |
Ah |
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SylvieLorxu |
His entire discography |
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enchilado |
Fair enough then |
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enchilado |
I was assuming you paid for it already |
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SylvieLorxu |
Nope :P |
| 08:44 |
SylvieLorxu |
Artist gets 40 bucks, I get two nice CDs and feel better about downloading all his stuff for free :P |
| 08:44 |
SylvieLorxu |
Also, the albums just have an interesting story |
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SylvieLorxu |
http://www.heavyblogisheavy.com/2014/04/17/ben-sharp-of-cloudkicker-responds-to-unauthorized-blood-music-lps/ |
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enchilado |
What kind of music is it? |
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enchilado |
Heavy metal? |
| 08:45 |
SylvieLorxu |
The guitar-jamming kind, simple instrumental Prog-Rock, I'd say :P |
| 08:45 |
enchilado |
Ah |
| 08:45 |
SylvieLorxu |
http://cloudkickermusic.com/track/he-would-be-riding-on-the-subway-or-writing-formulas-on-the-blackboard-or-having-a-meal-or-as-now-sitting-and-talking-to-someone-across-a-table-and-it-would-envelop-him-like-a-soundless-tsunami :P |
| 08:46 |
enchilado |
I prefer music with vocals |
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SylvieLorxu |
(His latest album is calmer, but I got older stuff) |
| 08:46 |
SylvieLorxu |
I like both, depends on my mood |
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enchilado |
Is all of that the name of it? |
| 08:46 |
SylvieLorxu |
Yup, he went a most Post-Rock style :P |
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SylvieLorxu |
Anyway, AFK for a bit |
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enchilado |
I might listen to it later, other stuff playing at the moment |
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sapier |
hmm prepare to pay addon taxes if your country demands them for delivery from china ;-) |
| 08:52 |
sapier |
well then hope it's not gonna be delivered to you directly :) or maybe ups is doing the tax things for dell |
| 08:55 |
sapier |
do you have any ide why: |
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sapier |
--snip-- |
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sapier |
errorstream << "attaching" << std::endl; |
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sapier |
jvm->AttachCurrentThread(&jnienv, &lJavaVMAttachArgs); |
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sapier |
--snip-- |
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sapier |
works while |
| 08:55 |
sapier |
--snip-- |
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sapier |
jvm->AttachCurrentThread(&jnienv, &lJavaVMAttachArgs); |
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sapier |
--snip-- |
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sapier |
doesn't? |
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sapier |
to make it even worse that issue only occurs if I disable all debug support |
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SylvieLorxu |
john_minetest: >Agent pickup |
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SylvieLorxu |
That means they'll go and put backdoors on it |
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* PenguinDad |
hugs ChanServ |
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* markv |
slaps ChanServ with a fish |
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markv |
No shit |
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* john_minetest |
gives ChanServ a <'(((((--< |
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* markv |
gives john_minetest a 8===> |
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PenguinDad |
"ChanServ donated 486 ops in the channel... " and "ChanServ donated 37 voices in the channel... " |
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SylvieLorxu |
Yay, albums arrived! :D |
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* john_minetest |
throws a Thinkpad T61 at markv |
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Eater4 |
jp__: by morinig actually, witch is in 5 hours |
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SylvieLorxu |
SylvieLorxu | http://cloudkickermusic.com/merch/the-discovery-cd-by-blood-music | http://cloudkickermusic.com/merch/the-eps-cd-by-blood-music |
| 09:21 |
SylvieLorxu |
^ john_minetest |
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Eater4 |
i forgot to port foward |
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Eater4 |
And I have to go back to bed |
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jp__ |
G'morning so ;) |
| 09:22 |
jp__ |
or g'night, idk... |
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Eater4 |
lol |
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Eater4 |
It's at isis.inchra.net #minetest now but it isn't avil to the public yet |
| 09:23 |
jp__ |
> /time 6000 USA |
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jp__ |
Ok, thanks ! |
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Eater4 |
Would you like it on the public server list? |
| 09:24 |
jp__ |
Yes, sure ! :) |
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Eater4 |
lol |
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Eater4 |
/time 6000 all |
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jp__ |
Port 30000 for isis.inchra.net ? |
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Eater4 |
No, I meant the irc server |
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jp__ |
Ah... |
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PenguinDad |
^ +1 |
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jp__ |
Skype for Linux sucks, but you should install Skype for Windows through Wine. |
| 09:27 |
Eater4 |
?? |
| 09:28 |
Eater4 |
oh I get it: lol |
| 09:28 |
Eater4 |
No it doesn't... |
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Eater4 |
did you try mono_runtime? |
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jp__ |
Able to run only in the Wine sector. |
| 09:31 |
jp__ |
They can't infect the Linux system. |
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Eater4 |
Hours? It took me 30 seconds to download mono |
| 09:36 |
Eater4 |
just download mono separately... |
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SylvieLorxu |
john_minetest: Interesting |
| 09:40 |
jp__ |
For the .deb, you've just to click on and then "install the package". |
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SylvieLorxu |
john_minetest: What style is it? It looks Punk-ish |
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SylvieLorxu |
john_minetest: Indie pop makes me think of this: http://youtu.be/NgglSW3IWco |
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SylvieLorxu |
(I won a copy of their album in a Facebook contest without having a Facebook account, I have no clue how...) |
| 09:44 |
SylvieLorxu |
(YouTube, stop defaulting to 360p, that's no way to listen to music) |
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SylvieLorxu |
Loonix |
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* markv |
is on Winux |
| 09:45 |
SylvieLorxu |
Trisquel 6 |
| 09:45 |
SylvieLorxu |
Oh, I see, yeah, that's more pop-ish |
| 09:46 |
SylvieLorxu |
Heh, they feel so old-school |
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ecutruin |
What should I make for my first test mod? |
| 09:46 |
SylvieLorxu |
Like the old pop stuff, not the new and ruined style |
| 09:49 |
SylvieLorxu |
I don't have flash either, Trisquel doesn't have it in their repos :P |
| 09:49 |
SylvieLorxu |
gnash sucks |
| 09:49 |
SylvieLorxu |
YouTube works fine with HTML5 |
| 09:50 |
SylvieLorxu |
Yeah, need to disable NoScript :P |
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markv |
217.35.229.223 |
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markv |
Last ip :( |
| 09:50 |
SylvieLorxu |
But if mpv works, I'll get it. I used to use youtube-dl but... it is broken on Trisquel |
| 09:51 |
SylvieLorxu |
Hmm, no mpv in the repos |
| 09:51 |
SylvieLorxu |
Oh well |
| 09:53 |
markv |
* Ping reply from sslv.tk: 41.909 second(s) |
| 09:53 |
markv |
What do I win? |
| 09:55 |
PenguinDad |
markv: you win math.pi cupcakes |
| 09:55 |
markv |
* Ping reply from sslv.tk: 0.000 second(s) |
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SylvieLorxu |
john_minetest: Not bad |
| 10:08 |
SylvieLorxu |
Not bad at all |
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sfan5 |
meow |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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jp__ |
Hi sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
SylvieLorxu: maybe this is useful for you? https://gist.github.com/sfan5/8672767 |
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LemonLake |
Speaking of skype, does the linux version of skype miss the GET/SET AVATAR command in P7? |
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enchilado |
skype? are you kidding me? |
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PenguinDad |
john_minetest: what else would you expect from M$? |
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Jordach |
>Firefox can't find the server at xkcd.com. D: |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: the solution is easy: don't use skype |
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jp__ |
john_minetest : https://plus.im/ |
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jp__ |
(Skype web-supported) |
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PilzAdam |
http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=TODO&curid=365&diff=2129&oldid=2087&rcid=2316 does someone know where this is? |
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PilzAdam |
s/where/who/ |
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sapier |
you're talking about jamesK89? ... no I don't know him |
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Zeno` |
does it matter who it is? If the contribution was accurate then *shrug* |
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sapier |
no but it'd be interesting to know |
| 10:42 |
Zeno` |
true |
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PilzAdam |
the wiki is not the correct place to suggest things |
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PilzAdam |
he should talk to RBA directly instead of writing it the TODO article |
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sapier |
especially as rba most likely wont even notice it there |
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Jordach |
someone needs to remove TODO for minetest_game |
| 10:45 |
Jordach |
because that's an outdated concept :3 |
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Zeno` |
oh I didn't see that |
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Zeno` |
TODO is outdated? |
| 10:46 |
sapier |
for frozen things yes ... ;-) |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, let the people dream and then hit the truth in their face >:-) |
| 10:47 |
PilzAdam |
Zeno`, the TODO page is incomplete, outdated, wrong, and a lot of other bad things too; everyone has their own plans on what to do next and doesn't care to write it into a wiki |
| 10:47 |
sapier |
0.4.10 game selection, PLZ vote! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9116 |
| 10:48 |
jp__ |
Pity there are no poll in phpBB... |
| 10:48 |
PilzAdam |
sapier, I would vote for "None, and a nice Game Manager", but that doesn't seem to be an option |
| 10:49 |
jin_xi |
+1 |
| 10:49 |
jin_xi |
but nice is no priority, if it just kind of works |
| 10:49 |
Zeno` |
I haven't done a lot of investigating, but why is minetest_game deprecated? |
| 10:49 |
sapier |
I won't write another game manager until it's settled down if minetest shall be a collection of games or mods |
| 10:50 |
jin_xi |
Zeno`: no consens on what it should be mostly |
| 10:50 |
sapier |
both concepts don't really match very well |
| 10:50 |
Zeno` |
hmm ok |
| 10:50 |
RealBadAngel |
huh, thx to PilzAdam i have noticed that ;) |
| 10:50 |
Zeno` |
jin_xi, and if a new game is bundled that will be more likely to have consensus? |
| 10:51 |
Zeno` |
or are "bundled" games the way of the dodo? |
| 10:52 |
jin_xi |
thats the wrong way too look at it |
| 10:52 |
RealBadAngel |
sapier, i would love to see there "creatures" by Taoki, its still a mod but gonna be a game |
| 10:52 |
RealBadAngel |
you should try it |
| 10:52 |
jin_xi |
not games bundled with minetest, but some game supported by mt... |
| 10:52 |
Zeno` |
jin_xi, I'm not trying to be difficult :) I just want to understand |
| 10:52 |
Taoki |
I'll be making a game with other creatures and a lot more things in the future, yes |
| 10:52 |
jin_xi |
just as there is no default game for flash |
| 10:52 |
Zeno` |
so I can make plans |
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sapier |
It's not me to decide about games I just do advertisement |
| 10:52 |
Taoki |
I still suggest trying out creatures for minetest_game though |
| 10:52 |
Taoki |
BTW... there are female versions of the human mob now :) |
| 10:53 |
Taoki |
You can possess them like all other mobs and play as any you wish |
| 10:53 |
Taoki |
Just like with monsters etc. Used several skins from skin mod |
| 10:53 |
RealBadAngel |
Ive updated Unified Inventory with intllib support and some tooltips |
| 10:53 |
RealBadAngel |
so translations are welcome |
| 10:54 |
sapier |
I wonder how many different mob variants we gonna need |
| 10:54 |
RealBadAngel |
theres started german and polish translation already |
| 10:54 |
Zeno` |
sapier, perhaps there needs to be a consensus hehehe |
| 10:54 |
Zeno` |
(sorry just kidding) |
| 10:55 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Oh, I was curious. Does Unified Inventory automatically adapt to all and any inventory and craft area sizes? As well as new elements added to the formspec? Creatures mod might work with it, although I tend to doubt it's compatible and can become so |
| 10:55 |
sapier |
mobs are same as always ... everyone thinks he can do better ... that works for some time as the primitive things can be done fast ... once ppl start to fix the more complex things their mod will become as slow and complex as all other mob mods |
| 10:55 |
jin_xi |
so minetest_game should be renamed to something like shitty_minecraft_boilerplate |
| 10:56 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki, i dont think so, that should be added |
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* Taoki |
nods |
| 10:56 |
Taoki |
sapier: Maybe try it out sometime. I think I managed to improve SimpleMobs to have a way more complex behavior, while the mod should still be as lightweight |
| 10:58 |
Zeno` |
A C API would make things "lighter" |
| 10:58 |
sapier |
if I have some time left ... not sure when this will be ... by now everytime I had a look at simplemobs I've been disapointed because exectly those issues claimed to be solved have just been ignored |
| 10:58 |
PenguinDad |
Zeno`: Why not C++? |
| 10:59 |
sapier |
why not assembler? |
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Zeno` |
PenguinDad, not really required |
| 10:59 |
Zeno` |
sapier, if there is a C API then assembler will work (cdecl assumed) |
| 10:59 |
sapier |
there's no need for c api too |
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Zeno` |
I disagree, but I'm too new for my opinion to count :) |
| 11:00 |
sapier |
the basic issues aren't a matter of language but engine design and that wont be fixed magicaly by doing it in c |
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asie |
sapier is correct |
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asie |
Lua is quite the fast language, especially with LuaJIT |
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Zeno` |
PenguinDad, basically because C++ (without templates and after compiled) is the same as C just with a pointer to the object plus maybe some pointers to member functions |
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Zeno` |
C is more like Lua than C++ is |
| 11:12 |
Zeno` |
asie, LuaJIT is still about 10x slower than C |
| 11:13 |
PenguinDad |
Zeno`: C can be slow too |
| 11:13 |
Zeno` |
Lua is great for most things... I just don't know about mapgen and all those O(n^3) functions |
| 11:14 |
Zeno` |
PenguinDad, I agree :) |
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markv |
Guests annoy me |
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sapier |
Zeno that's wrong in general, for some types of operation lua is as fast as c/c++ |
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Zeno` |
sapier, I apologise. I was generalising. |
| 11:15 |
sapier |
and mapgen issues aren't related to language but to exactly those enginge issues I mentioned |
| 11:15 |
Zeno` |
bad habit of mine |
| 11:15 |
PenguinDad |
Let's use Julia for noise functions |
| 11:16 |
Zeno` |
Julia Sets? |
| 11:16 |
sfan5 |
Zeno`: if C is too slow it is either bad programming, a bad compiler, bad compiler flags (-O0) or something really advanced (like video encoding) |
| 11:16 |
PenguinDad |
Zeno`: http://julialang.org/ |
| 11:16 |
sfan5 |
^ PenguinDad not Zeno` |
| 11:16 |
sapier |
and yes in theory a mob done in c/c++ will be (slightly) faster but at cost of customizability and modability |
| 11:18 |
asie |
Zeno`: 10x? |
| 11:18 |
asie |
I'm sure otherwise |
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asie |
Even Java is only 1.5x slower than C in just about every single benchmark |
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Zeno` |
looking for the reference I read only a week or so ago |
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Zeno` |
unfortunately benchmarks are hard to come by |
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Zeno` |
can't find it |
| 11:29 |
Zeno` |
but 1.5^3 is 3.375... accounting for overhead I don't see a 10x degradation as impossible |
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Zeno` |
anyway it doesn't matter :) |
| 11:31 |
Zeno` |
'cause it's not gonna happen heh |
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asie |
Zeno`: Pff. |
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asie |
http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/ |
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Zeno` |
pff :) |
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Jordach |
pfft |
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HatedByMost |
http://imgur.com/gallery/TzODf |
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HatedByMost |
http://i.imgur.com/UugsXQR.jpg |
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m5 |
Hi! |
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m5 |
ANyone else use Tor? |
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HatedByMost |
hi |
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Jordach_ |
ask the NSA |
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PilzAdam |
m5, lot of feds do |
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m5 |
Ikr |
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* m5 |
doesn't like tor |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach_, the NSA doesn't really know |
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markv |
Jordach_, /nick Jordach |
| 12:32 |
Jordach |
BT be fucking with my connection again |
| 12:32 |
markv |
Get the great ZNC |
| 12:33 |
markv |
I have ZNC on the laptop next to me which is connected to 3g |
| 12:33 |
markv |
And I connect to it with a crossover cable |
| 12:33 |
markv |
Actually my ZNC is in germany but that would be cool anyway |
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Jordach |
do i have a Quassel Core? NO |
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FungusAdam |
uh oh |
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PenguinDad |
/nick MushroomAdam |
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Jordach |
i shouldn't OTT raytracing |
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Jordach |
i've now had to limit Blender's thread count |
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markv |
Jordach, What's the longest something's rendered? |
| 13:12 |
Jordach |
uhm |
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Jordach |
you consider 24 hours for a single 16k masterpiece? |
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Jordach |
i woke up the next morning to check it and it fucking crashed in front of me |
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HatedByMost |
PilzAdam, do you have any idea why it's not possible to "jump" in carts when there are multiple players online? |
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markv |
Longest for me is 9 hours |
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markv |
and a proposition of 16hrs which i kindly told to fuck off |
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Megaf |
us`0gb; wow, you still here :) |
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nman3600 |
Well? |
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nman3600 |
markv |
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us`0gb |
Megaf: No, I was asleep. And now I'm off to work. |
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nman3600 |
Hi Jordach |
| 15:20 |
Jordach |
500w PSU = warm motherfucking desktop |
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Jordach |
oh good, at least that new system fan actually cools my desktop |
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Exio4 |
Jordach: i have a chinese 600w PSU |
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Jordach |
i might have taught ecutruin the basics of blender :3 |
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ecutruin |
In like no time either |
| 16:37 |
Megaf |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
| 16:37 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (658ms) |
| 16:38 |
Megaf |
weird, my server is consuming a lot of resources and theres no one online |
| 16:39 |
Megaf |
yep, it used all memory |
| 16:40 |
Megaf |
sapier; minetestserver consumed all available memory (2GB) is that expected? |
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HatedByMost |
Ctrl + C |
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Megaf |
That's a first for me |
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sapier |
not exactly ;-) |
| 16:40 |
Megaf |
HatedByMost; did that, but it will take a while till the Linux Kernel put order in place |
| 16:41 |
HatedByMost |
#linux |
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Megaf |
minetest odroid-wheezy:~$ free -m |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory |
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Megaf |
lol |
| 16:41 |
sapier |
you're on plain linux x86 megaf? |
| 16:42 |
Megaf |
plain Linux, standar Debian Wheezy yes |
| 16:42 |
Megaf |
on ARM |
| 16:42 |
Megaf |
:) |
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Megaf |
no screen |
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HatedByMost |
s/screen/GUI |
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sapier |
try using valgrind |
| 16:43 |
Megaf |
well, the graphical manager and X were running |
| 16:43 |
Megaf |
Im shutting them down to free some memory |
| 16:44 |
Megaf |
51 MB free before, 78 now |
| 16:44 |
Megaf |
its something |
| 16:45 |
HatedByMost |
8 people online - 176 MB ram used |
| 16:45 |
Megaf |
time to create a temp swap |
| 16:45 |
Megaf |
dd if=/dev/zero of=/SWAP.img bs=1M count=512 |
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Megaf |
HatedByMost; yep, first time it uses too much ram with my current configuration |
| 16:47 |
HatedByMost |
Megaf, I never exceeded the 400 MB RAM usage.. I wonder what's happening on your machine |
| 16:47 |
Megaf |
maybe some luacontroller |
| 16:48 |
HatedByMost |
there's no active chunk at players = 0 |
| 16:48 |
Megaf |
and sometime some buggy clients just start to sink in the ground |
| 16:48 |
HatedByMost |
check for force-loaded blocks |
| 16:48 |
Megaf |
and fall to the infinite |
| 16:48 |
Megaf |
that may make the server generate several chunks |
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Piggybear87 |
Howdy folks! |
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Megaf |
Common Linux Kernel, I got some swap now, start to unload some ram already and put it on disk |
| 16:50 |
Megaf |
1 MB of swap used, whoah! |
| 16:50 |
Megaf |
2 now |
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Megaf |
server still shutting down] |
| 16:50 |
HatedByMost |
Megaf, force loaded mapblocks will become force loaded again after the next sart, so you really sohuldcheck if there's a problem |
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HatedByMost |
*start |
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Megaf |
max_forceloaded_blocks = 12 |
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Piggybear87 |
Ever since I started booting in recovery, I've had SOMETHING say "Fail", but it went too fast for me to see what it was. My Girlfriend said "is there a bug file?" So I looked for it and found boot.log. I Found this, and I was wondering if it's bad. |
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Piggybear87 |
* Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server[74G[[31mfail[39;49m] |
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Megaf |
my problem may be here server_unload_unused_data_timeout = 21600 |
| 16:52 |
Megaf |
Piggybear87; that's something you don't need unless you use your Linux box as windows server |
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Piggybear87 |
Ah, OK. Then nothing else is wrong. Thanks! :) |
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Megaf |
active directory is a windows service to provide contacts and accounts syncronization across services |
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Megaf |
HatedByMost; sapier; Ok, managed to shutdown minetestserver properly, now I have 1972MB of free ram |
| 16:54 |
HatedByMost |
<Megaf>max_forceloaded_blocks = 12 |
| 16:54 |
HatedByMost |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/defaultsettings.cpp |
| 16:54 |
HatedByMost |
where? |
| 16:54 |
Megaf |
so indeed, something wrong |
| 16:55 |
HatedByMost |
that setting you told doesn't exist |
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Megaf |
sapier; did you remove that setting? |
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HatedByMost |
protip: disable vsync first to make pause_fps_max useable |
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sapier |
no I didn't touch forceloading code ... nor will I |
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Calinou |
CraigyDavi's signature says “My mods, texture packs and other stuff.â€, it's exactly the text I used, heh |
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CraigyDavi |
Ah that's where I got the idea to put that in my signature from ;) |
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CraigyDavi |
I'll change it |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
it's OK |
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HatedByMost |
proller: if the math mapgen gets removed, then is here an unused default setting: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/defaultsettings.cpp#L262 |
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Jordach |
goddamn blue screens |
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Jordach |
they're like fucking unicorns on W8 |
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Calinou |
system crashes become rarer and rarer on modern OS |
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HatedByMost |
wow. developers finally noticed BSoD and fix them |
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Megaf |
thisi s spaming my server log |
| 17:21 |
Megaf |
14:21:06: ACTION[ServerThread]: tried to dig default:cactus at protected position (98,16,371) |
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PenguinDad |
HatedByMost: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/c4359ff65cd8e4e754442b9f2ef7051a8eaa4241/builtin/game/forceloading.lua#L25 |
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HatedByMost |
PenguinDad, interesting. seems like defaultsettings hasn't added everything |
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Megaf |
lol, thats my node brakers] |
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Calinou |
someone is into cacti, Megaf |
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Megaf |
whey they dont dig my cactus anymore? |
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HatedByMost |
^ |
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HatedByMost |
protection mods |
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Megaf |
it used to work |
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Jordach |
Megaf, there's a fake player doing the digging now |
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Megaf |
Ok, I replace all nodebreakers, now they work |
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Megaf |
reseted them |
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Calinou |
“resetted“ isn't a word, past tense is “reset†|
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Calinou |
anyone has a mod to remove torches when they're placed in a water? I presume an ABM could do this |
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ecutruin |
Thanks Jordach for the lesson, here's the result saved and uploaded - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53977587/Chest.gif |
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HatedByMost |
Y NO MT textures? |
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LemonLake |
because jordach does MC anims |
| 17:34 |
Jordach |
HatedByMost, LemonLake: ecutruin is a well known MC modder |
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* HatedByMost |
mever playd MC |
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Jordach |
i just took him through the process that i learned from |
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* HatedByMost |
expects a possible fake-account |
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ecutruin |
Actually I'm working on trying to get animation support for MC.. so I needed experience with animation, which Jordach is very good at. |
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HatedByMost |
+1 |
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ecutruin |
Now I've learned the basics, and it really did take long. |
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ecutruin |
TeamViewer is very handy for interractive learning. |
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Calinou |
they love to hear you use it, but only if you buy it |
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Calinou |
</TeamViewer jokes> |
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* ecutruin |
laughs. |
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HatedByMost |
TV is also good if you use the fre edition |
| 17:36 |
ecutruin |
Yeah, I'm using the free edition. |
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Calinou |
what I mean is, their business model is fairly laughable at |
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HatedByMost |
true |
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ecutruin |
Yeah.. kinda. But I'm sure large businesses would use it for remote tech support. |
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LemonLake |
Yes, but not the free version |
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LemonLake |
That's against the ToS |
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Jordach |
considering it took me about one minute to get helping :3 |
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ecutruin |
Yeah. All in all that was a good hour or so from basic model to fully UV mapped, rigged, and animated model. I'd say for someone who NEVER touched Blender before, that's pretty awesome. At least I'm happy. |
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ecutruin |
And, yeah, as a late response to the other comment, I'm the designer/artist of Ender Storage mod from MC. But.. if you don't play MC.. yeah, I'm just a voxel artist. |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
become a Minetest modder :D |
| 17:46 |
LemonLake |
I used to mod for MC. |
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* sfan5 |
meows at Calinou |
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LemonLake |
But with every forge update it just become more complicated so I gave up |
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* john_minetest |
gives sfan5 a <'((((--< |
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ecutruin |
Lemon, yeah.. that's kind of my worry with starting to mod with MC again. However, I've been assured by one of the devs (the one that's going to build this new animation system) that they should be able to make it rather painless for me to create content. So I'm happy. |
| 17:48 |
LemonLake |
I just want them to update their documentation. That's all. |
| 17:48 |
ecutruin |
If It doesn't work out... MT looks like a pretty damn good alternative. |
| 17:48 |
LemonLake |
I'll wait for the official modding API to come out before I go back to MC. |
| 17:48 |
LemonLake |
In the meantime, MT is my time-spender. |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
“alternative†cough cough |
| 17:50 |
LemonLake |
ecutruin is right, tho |
| 17:50 |
ecutruin |
Calinou, to be fair.. MC is a bit ahead in what I can do.. |
| 17:50 |
LemonLake |
You designed the MC storage mod, right? |
| 17:51 |
LemonLake |
Not made it? |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
depends if you're into writing thousand of line hacks |
| 17:51 |
LemonLake |
If so, where can I find evidence on this? I'm just interested. |
| 17:52 |
ecutruin |
LemonLake, download Ender Storage, and look at the creditS? |
| 17:52 |
* sfan5 |
gives john_minetest a kitten |
| 17:52 |
LemonLake |
Okay, I believe you then |
| 17:52 |
ecutruin |
You could also take a look at the ForgeCraft wallpaper, I'm on that too. |
| 17:54 |
ecutruin |
Ocelot skin. ^-^ |
| 17:54 |
LemonLake |
Oh nice :) |
| 17:55 |
Jordach |
heck - i even made a proper rendering of ecutruin |
| 17:57 |
LemonLake |
Niiiiiiiice! |
| 17:57 |
* ecutruin |
snickers. |
| 17:57 |
ecutruin |
My one mod made me a big shot in the community I guess.. |
| 17:57 |
* ecutruin |
shrugs. |
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luizrpgluiz |
hii |
| 18:01 |
PenguinDad |
KSP == Kitten Space Program xD |
| 18:02 |
luizrpgluiz |
hii |
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PenguinDad |
EHLO luizrpgluiz |
| 18:03 |
luizrpgluiz |
hi Penguin |
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Megaf |
I cant run KSP here |
| 18:13 |
Megaf |
its fuc*ing 32 bit only |
| 18:13 |
Megaf |
skype for linux is 32 bit too |
| 18:13 |
Megaf |
I really cant understand that |
| 18:14 |
Megaf |
using 32 bit now a days is like using 16 bit in windows xp |
| 18:14 |
Kray |
wat |
| 18:14 |
Kray |
you can run 32-bit software on a 64-bit system |
| 18:14 |
sfan5 |
except it's hell with steam |
| 18:14 |
Megaf |
but you gonna need to install several 32 bit libs |
| 18:15 |
Kray |
also there is a 64-bit version of ksp |
| 18:15 |
sfan5 |
it's complaining libc.so.6 is missing even if libc6:i386 is installed |
| 18:15 |
Kray |
and boohoo, extra libraries |
| 18:15 |
PenguinDad |
<PenguinDad> john_minetest: what else would you expect from M$? |
| 18:16 |
PenguinDad |
^ Megaf regarding skype |
| 18:18 |
Megaf |
I tried to run it here once and it wouldnt work |
| 18:20 |
ecutruin |
Maybe they should be a bit less thin.. but otherwise I love it. <3 |
| 18:23 |
Exio4 |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqqu36hCMAANuEQ.jpg |
| 18:23 |
CraigyDavi |
RBA's shaders seems to have made things too bright |
| 18:24 |
CraigyDavi |
To the left is with the new shaders, to the right is without them https://cdn.mediacru.sh/wB9R48FL6MZQ.png |
| 18:24 |
sfan5 |
Exio4: dem photoshop skillz |
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CraigyDavi |
It's blindingly bright |
| 18:25 |
Megaf |
wheres the 64 bit of KSP? https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/demo.php |
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PenguinDad |
CraigyDavi: which new shaders? |
| 18:26 |
PenguinDad |
s/shaders/shadars/ |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
it's not like it deserves being played |
| 18:26 |
CraigyDavi |
PenguinDad, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/6c98fd |
| 18:27 |
CraigyDavi |
Here's another pic, to the left is the new shaders |
| 18:27 |
CraigyDavi |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/QTfimTMApNu_.png |
| 18:28 |
sfan5 |
CraigyDavi: I think left just has a different color |
| 18:28 |
sfan5 |
compare the grass & the pole |
| 18:28 |
sfan5 |
I think the colors on the left are much nicer |
| 18:29 |
CraigyDavi |
Well the grass and the pole are not light sources |
| 18:29 |
CraigyDavi |
It just seems that the light sources are much brighter |
| 18:29 |
sfan5 |
you're talking about light sources? oh |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
maybe the color was just corrected |
| 18:30 |
PenguinDad |
CraigyDavi: I think this might be caused by a0f78659f31abdce973bc6641b5b5a58f2ba9afc |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
try comparing the actual color with the color in the texture |
| 18:31 |
CraigyDavi |
Ah yes, you're probably right, PenguinDad |
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| 18:33 |
Jordach |
you know those moments when i get a creepy ass face and not a non-creepy one, this time, i got a stupidly funny one |
| 18:33 |
Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/fzK9JmHqZhDA.png |
| 18:35 |
diemartin |
that's actually nice |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
kaeza, i'm literally laughing because this line makes it perfect: "does this look like the face of mercy?" |
| 18:36 |
kaeza |
plol |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
things not to do in blender: shit yourself! |
| 18:36 |
* kaeza |
throws https://cdn.mediacru.sh/9_cECdSR5HyA.png into the channel and runs |
| 18:37 |
PenguinDad |
kaeza: that's the OS of the future! |
| 18:37 |
Kray |
Megaf: the 64-bit executable comes in the same package |
| 18:38 |
Jordach |
fun fact: Windows 3.1 is immune to all current windows malware |
| 18:38 |
Megaf |
Ok, I'm downloading it |
| 18:38 |
Kray |
i have KSP.x86 and KSP.x86_64 |
| 18:38 |
Kray |
and KSP.exe |
| 18:38 |
Megaf |
Jordach; I'm not sure, there are a lib for windows 3.x that enable it to run 32 bit apps |
| 18:39 |
Megaf |
Kray; ouch, you are one of those persons who still using windows? |
| 18:39 |
Kray |
wat |
| 18:39 |
sfan5 |
>Kray >using windows |
| 18:39 |
sfan5 |
as if :D |
| 18:39 |
Kray |
i use windows at work |
| 18:39 |
Megaf |
ah, so you use Linux, you said KSP.exe... |
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| 18:40 |
Calinou |
is it possible to make players collide with each other? |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
I'd like that, especially when pvp is on |
| 18:41 |
Megaf |
That would never work on the current minetest state |
| 18:41 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: before you ask, yes it's me |
| 18:41 |
Megaf |
it's just way to laggy and unresponsive |
| 18:41 |
Jordach |
<- still uses windows due to UEFI stuff |
| 18:41 |
* Megaf |
throws Debian 64 bit at Jordach |
| 18:41 |
Megaf |
and Fedora |
| 18:41 |
Jordach |
not because i can't go legacy, just because i still want my goddamn ability to control system fans |
| 18:41 |
Megaf |
they support UEFI |
| 18:41 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: linux works perfectly fine with uefi |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
<Megaf> it's just way to laggy and unresponsive |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
why not? |
| 18:42 |
sfan5 |
depending on distro |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
I think it used to be in some old version |
| 18:42 |
sfan5 |
but fedora, [xkl]?ubuntu and linux mint work IIRC |
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| 18:43 |
Megaf |
KSP runs really slow on my PC =/ |
| 18:43 |
Megaf |
unplayable |
| 18:43 |
PenguinDad |
Debian and Fedora work perfectly with UEFI |
| 18:43 |
Megaf |
yep, they work fine with EFI on macs too |
| 18:44 |
Megaf |
(my case) |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
all distros work OK with UEFI motherboards, these days |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch all have ways |
| 18:46 |
Megaf |
yay! KSP works now a days! |
| 18:51 |
LemonLake |
Krock, you need some sort of whois thing on your serevr |
| 18:51 |
LemonLake |
server* |
| 18:51 |
LemonLake |
so we can get player's ips and stuff |
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HatedByMost |
LemonLake, could you say "Krock," again plz? It didn't highlightme |
| 18:59 |
HatedByMost |
:P |
| 18:59 |
LemonLake |
You're renamed. |
| 18:59 |
LemonLake |
HatedByMost: you need a whois on your server to get player ips etc |
| 18:59 |
HatedByMost |
why would I need to get IPs? |
| 18:59 |
HatedByMost |
ban gets them |
| 19:00 |
LemonLake |
to do things like geoip |
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| 19:00 |
LemonLake |
multi-user checking |
| 19:00 |
LemonLake |
etc |
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HatedByMost |
aha |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
"Code cleanup, added beds by PilzAdam, added player respawn sounds. |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
john_minetest, I boot in BIOS mode too, with GPT partition (hey, Windows can't do that) |
| 19:06 |
HatedByMost |
cool. I did the name (Code cleanup) |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
and 4096 CPU cores, probably |
| 19:07 |
Exio4 |
[15:57:21] <john_minetest> UEFI needs a special partition and a special bootloader. |
| 19:07 |
Exio4 |
never needed anything like that |
| 19:07 |
Exio4 |
my mobo supports GPT/UEFI |
| 19:07 |
Exio4 |
i use it without problems |
| 19:07 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: linux was also the first OS to support usb 2.0 IIRC |
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HatedByMost |
+1 john_minetest |
| 19:08 |
Exio4 |
i don't have any small partition, UEFI works |
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* sfan5 |
throws gummi at john_minetest |
| 19:08 |
HatedByMost |
GUMMIBOOT :D |
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sfan5 |
!title |
| 19:10 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: ein knall rotes gummiboot - YouTube |
| 19:10 |
PenguinDad |
john_minetest: it's knallrot isn |
| 19:10 |
HatedByMost |
xD |
| 19:10 |
PenguinDad |
+'t it |
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* sfan5 |
throws an u-boot at john_minetest |
| 19:12 |
* john_minetest |
throws a herd, a hird and a hurd of GNUs at sfan5 |
| 19:13 |
* sfan5 |
throws debian hurd at john_minetest |
| 19:14 |
* john_minetest |
throws an arch hurd at sfan5 |
| 19:14 |
sfan5 |
that's no longer maintained |
| 19:14 |
* john_minetest |
chokes sfan5 with his archlinux-arm |
| 19:15 |
sfan5 |
my raspi runs archlinux arm |
| 19:15 |
* PenguinDad |
throws a rainbow Gummiboot john_minetest |
| 19:18 |
PenguinDad |
john_minetest: you should print that on a shirt |
| 19:18 |
HatedByMost |
john_minetest, cd / |
| 19:20 |
HatedByMost |
this guy has much cpu and gpu power: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aTmIP13goU |
| 19:20 |
PenguinDad |
!title |
| 19:20 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: Minecarts!? - YouTube |
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* PenguinDad |
executes "set hbling" |
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PilzAdam |
john_minetest, cd ././././././././. to get on my level |
| 19:32 |
* sfan5 |
grounds PilzAdam |
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* PilzAdam |
throws :(){ :|:& at sfan5 |
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* sfan5 |
forks away |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
cd - |
| 19:36 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: are you seriously using bash? |
| 19:37 |
* sfan5 |
throws zsh at john_minetest |
| 19:37 |
sfan5 |
zsh FTW! |
| 19:37 |
sfan5 |
why? |
| 19:38 |
sfan5 |
THEN CHANGE THE CONFIG! |
| 19:38 |
sfan5 |
meow :3 |
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* kaeza |
slaps sfan5 with command.com |
| 19:39 |
kaeza |
yes, not even cmd.exe |
| 19:39 |
Calinou |
you need to cd at lest once, john_minetest |
| 19:39 |
kaeza |
:D |
| 19:39 |
Calinou |
GNU AGPL :p |
| 19:39 |
Calinou |
may be good for mods |
| 19:40 |
PenguinDad |
zlib/libpng ftw |
| 19:41 |
Calinou |
zlib is a saner WTFPL, same for MIT |
| 19:44 |
HatedByMost |
DBAD is non-free but nice too |
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| 19:48 |
Calinou |
you don't have permission to execute this program* |
| 19:48 |
Calinou |
HatedByMost, DBAD sucks |
| 19:48 |
Calinou |
it's a dick |
| 19:48 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: if your program is special the linux kernel itself may modify it while it's run |
| 19:48 |
Calinou |
john_minetest, zlib is better at not letting people confuse others |
| 19:48 |
HatedByMost |
it actually is. and language is ignored |
| 19:49 |
* sfan5 |
flips HatedByMost |
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* Jordach |
flips Krock |
| 19:50 |
Krock |
. |
| 19:50 |
Krock |
flipped and flopped |
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| 19:54 |
Krock |
wtf? .ogg is also video? |
| 19:54 |
Jordach |
>Zoom is the ability to expand a subset of the picture; we humans have no such ability. Well, I take that back; we do: we just get up off the couch and walk up closer to what we want to see |
| 19:54 |
Jordach |
<3 Blender wiki |
| 19:55 |
Krock |
john_minetest, thought, it's just audio... thx |
| 19:56 |
PilzAdam |
is "ALL HAIL THE PROGRAMMER" in the licence GPL GNU/compatible? |
| 19:57 |
Krock |
GNU is the center of the world |
| 19:57 |
Krock |
*cough* |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
nothing GNU, justa bunch of techhie hippies |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
that is GNU in a nutshell |
| 20:00 |
Calinou |
Krock, .ogv is more often used |
| 20:00 |
Calinou |
.oga could be used for audio, but very few people do that |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: wrong, ogg can hold opus too |
| 20:07 |
Krock |
life is life nananana |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: https://rms.sexy/ |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
pfft |
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Jordach |
i don't see the point in open source considering the UEFI is locked down |
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Calinou |
that makes no sense |
| 20:20 |
Calinou |
UEFI could be made not so locked down if motherboard manufacturers played well with the community; of course, they don't |
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sfan5] |
Jordach: UEFI is not locked down at all, your BIOS is locked down by default |
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Calinou |
both are too locked currently |
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sfan5] |
both = UEFI and BIOS? |
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| 20:41 |
ExcaliburZero |
Currently LemonLake and I are working on this Minetest mod website, and we were wondering if any of you have any ideas of how to make the design more Minetest themed: |
| 20:41 |
ExcaliburZero |
http://excaliburzero.github.io/minetest-mod-recorder/ |
| 20:42 |
Krock |
needs more mods |
| 20:42 |
Krock |
style is fine |
| 20:42 |
PenguinDad |
ExcaliburZero: A green colour tone would fit minetest better imo |
| 20:43 |
sfan5 |
GREEN! |
| 20:44 |
PenguinDad |
!neerg |
| 20:44 |
sfan5 |
!rev !neerg |
| 20:44 |
MinetestBot |
green! |
| 20:44 |
LemonLake |
Green. |
| 20:44 |
LemonLake |
I'll do green then. |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
sfan5, yes |
| 20:44 |
ExcaliburZero |
Green sounds good. |
| 20:44 |
Krock |
ah yes. the on_hover effect for links is too bright color |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
green is the Minetest colour |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
be gentle on hover colour |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
also, how about More Blocks and Map Tools? :p |
| 20:45 |
Krock |
how about airsword? |
| 20:45 |
markv |
reggin |
| 20:46 |
ExcaliburZero |
I'll be sure to add more mods soon. |
| 20:46 |
ExcaliburZero |
It is also on GitHub, with the website being here: |
| 20:46 |
ExcaliburZero |
https://github.com/ExcaliburZero/minetest-mod-recorder/tree/gh-pages |
| 20:47 |
ExcaliburZero |
And the scripts to make the html file here: |
| 20:47 |
ExcaliburZero |
https://github.com/ExcaliburZero/minetest-mod-recorder |
| 20:47 |
LemonLake |
Working on the color pallete |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
palette, 1 l and 2 t |
| 20:48 |
LemonLake |
Maybe I could use the grass texture for the headings. |
| 20:48 |
diemartin |
"pallete" is valid english AFAIK |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
the less images you use, the better it is |
| 20:49 |
LemonLake |
It's just one image. |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
diemartin, my spell check (English and French) says it's a typo |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
LemonLake, still more than 0 :P |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
lenghtens load time, bad for high-dpi devices and zoom users |
| 20:49 |
* Calinou |
is updating MCE to work nice with the latest version of Minetest |
| 20:50 |
* sfan5 |
is meowing |
| 20:52 |
PenguinDad |
"Meintest, Deintest, Unsertest!" german minetest song xD |
| 20:53 |
sfan5 |
PenguinDad: you forgot "Euertest!" |
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| 20:59 |
PenguinDad |
sfan5: that's only the title of the song |
| 20:59 |
Krock |
ExcaliburZero, it's not about styling but - could you make categories? |
| 21:00 |
ExcaliburZero |
Krock: Do you mean listing mods by categories? |
| 21:00 |
Krock |
exactly. |
| 21:00 |
LemonLake |
Yep, I'm gonna make a JS to do that |
| 21:00 |
Krock |
sfan5 ^ |
| 21:00 |
LemonLake |
Actually, ExcaliburZero you any good with JS? |
| 21:01 |
sfan5 |
Krock: hm? |
| 21:01 |
Krock |
JavaScript |
| 21:01 |
ExcaliburZero |
No, unfortunately, I don't know much Javascript. |
| 21:01 |
sfan5 |
and? |
| 21:01 |
sfan5 |
I'm probably not going to do that |
| 21:01 |
Krock |
waith...I thought you don't like it |
| 21:01 |
LemonLake |
Okay then, I'm happy to try my hand at making it |
| 21:01 |
sfan5 |
ExcaliburZero: JS is easy |
| 21:01 |
Krock |
nvm then |
| 21:01 |
LemonLake |
I'm good with JS, its just the concept that may take time |
| 21:03 |
LemonLake |
https://mediacru.sh/kdcd6DnEx_Fc |
| 21:03 |
LemonLake |
Hows that? |
| 21:03 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake +1 for that design |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
looks bad, LemonLake |
| 21:04 |
Krock |
-1 for no complete green background |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
hard to read, ugly, image-using |
| 21:04 |
Krock |
xD |
| 21:04 |
LemonLake |
Well at least tell me how to improve it |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
the data visualization is poor |
| 21:05 |
LemonLake |
That's not fault of mine |
| 21:05 |
Calinou |
(tip: use colours, bold, italic, underline appropriately) |
| 21:05 |
LemonLake |
Oh I see |
| 21:05 |
Calinou |
Krock, dark background is ideal: easier on the eyes |
| 21:05 |
Calinou |
many people think web pages should be pieces of paper though :phoronix rolleyes: |
| 21:05 |
Krock |
Calinou, dark BG also makes eyes tired |
| 21:05 |
LemonLake |
dark bg looks better with brighter text (not just white) but bigger fonts |
| 21:07 |
jp__ |
Coloured backgrounds may have disastrous results on some (old) screens. The universal background is white. And Google has studied it. |
| 21:08 |
LemonLake |
+jp__ |
| 21:08 |
Krock |
google studies everything |
| 21:09 |
LemonLake |
even us |
| 21:09 |
Krock |
night' |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
<Krock> Calinou, dark BG also makes eyes tired |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
it's probably the inverse, if the text is not too contrasted |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
“The universal background is white.†→ screens use additive, not substractive |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
RGB, not CMYK |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
Google studies also thing privacy is irrelevant \o/ |
| 21:15 |
PilzAdam |
if white is too bright for you, make the screen more red |
| 21:15 |
LemonLake |
^ |
| 21:16 |
PilzAdam |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift_%28software%29 |
| 21:16 |
jp__ |
Anyway, white isn't a W3C standard by hasard... |
| 21:16 |
jp__ |
This is the least random color. |
| 21:17 |
ExcaliburZero |
For the headings with the grass texture could you try making the white into a brown? |
| 21:17 |
LemonLake |
Hmm |
| 21:18 |
ExcaliburZero |
To specify, the white background not the white text, |
| 21:18 |
LemonLake |
Yeah I know what you're saying |
| 21:24 |
Jordach |
TIL Terraria has a decent finite water system |
| 21:24 |
LemonLake |
I like it, it's unique. |
| 21:24 |
LemonLake |
More realistic than MT. |
| 21:26 |
PenguinDad |
why would you even need finite water? |
| 21:32 |
Exio4 |
redshift is freaking amazing |
| 21:32 |
Exio4 |
i don't think i could live without redshift |
| 21:33 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, I think you could |
| 21:34 |
Exio4 |
my life is 500% better after using redshift |
| 21:38 |
Exio4 |
after using redshift, i can finally use my computer at night without killing my eyes |
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sfan5 |
Exio4: >wanting to use the computer at night |
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* PenguinDad |
needs blueshift |
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* sfan5 |
meows at PenguinDad |
| 21:43 |
PenguinDad |
My eyes actually hurt from low temperature light |
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* sfan5 |
goes to sleep :3 ~~ |
| 21:59 |
LemonLake |
That's a new quit message. |
| 22:00 |
LemonLake |
Unless it's not a real one. |
| 22:00 |
sfan5 |
if it were real there would be no "Quit: " in front of it |
| 22:00 |
LemonLake |
Ah |
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* sfan5 |
goes back to sleep |
| 22:00 |
LemonLake |
What is the point of making it look like that though? |
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| 22:00 |
sfan5 |
there's no point |
| 22:00 |
LemonLake |
Exactly. |
| 22:00 |
* sfan5 |
goes back to sleep again |
| 22:02 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, there is one at the end |
| 22:03 |
sfan5 |
not funny |
| 22:03 |
LemonLake |
tryin to find a good anime to get into |
| 22:03 |
LemonLake |
finished hyouka, finished kokoro |
| 22:04 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: I have two you should _not_ watch: Date a Live II, Black Bullet |
| 22:05 |
LemonLake |
are they bad? |
| 22:05 |
sfan5 |
basically yes |
| 22:05 |
LemonLake |
aight |
| 22:06 |
LemonLake |
will remember |
| 22:08 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: if you haven't seen Mirai Nikki, watch that; if xyz were here he'd recommend you to watch Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix uncought deserialization error on receiving data a0097c6 2014-06-22T00:05:41+02:00 http://git.io/dYwywA |
| 22:08 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix server assert in case of invalid message from client, just kick that client. f8522d5 2014-06-21T23:56:46+02:00 http://git.io/vdm_jA |
| 22:09 |
LemonLake |
Looking at the synopsis it sounds interesting. |
| 22:09 |
LemonLake |
I'll check it out later. |
| 22:10 |
sfan5 |
LemonLake: here are some more: Fullmetal Alchemist, Kill la Kill, Noragami, Suisei no Gargantia |
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* sfan5 |
now really goes to sleep |
| 22:11 |
LemonLake |
I don't watch them that fast :p |
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* Jordach |
MEOWS AT sfan5 |
| 22:20 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Support for scalable font and gui elements d4245e6 2014-06-22T00:08:55+02:00 http://git.io/0PQC8w |
| 22:31 |
PenguinDad |
Good night everypony! |
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| 22:52 |
Miner_48er |
worldedit what's the cmd to unhide? |
| 22:53 |
LemonLake |
you mean hide the selection? |
| 22:53 |
Miner_48er |
unhide the selection |
| 22:53 |
LemonLake |
did you hide it with unmark? |
| 22:53 |
Miner_48er |
no //hide |
| 22:54 |
LemonLake |
ahh i see |
| 22:55 |
LemonLake |
i think if you just unmark it |
| 22:56 |
Miner_48er |
no |
| 22:57 |
Miner_48er |
just hides the markers |
| 23:01 |
Miner_48er |
/restore |
| 23:01 |
LemonLake |
ah |
| 23:05 |
LemonLake |
omg |
| 23:05 |
LemonLake |
mirai nikki is so awesome |
| 23:06 |
LemonLake |
it sorta tips the hat to people nowadays |
| 23:06 |
LemonLake |
'your phone is your life' |
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LemonLake |
MANIAC |
| 23:32 |
LemonLake |
sfan5: that anime is simply amazing. thanks so much :D |
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