Time Nick Message 00:17 Eater4 !tell jp__ Your Server map is up! 00:17 MinetestBot Eater4: I'll pass that on when jp__ is around 01:11 Vazon Eater4, did you here what the decided on the servers? 01:19 Exio4 Eater4: why that nick then! 01:49 Eater4 Vazon: they didn't care, as usual 01:49 Eater4 Exio4: lol 01:49 Vazon Ya 01:50 Eater4 Hm.... 01:58 Eater4 ShadowNinja? 02:12 sapier https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9389 another android preview release 02:51 ecutruin Damn, I missed Jordach. >.< 03:50 Megaf us`0gb; Im fine, you? Did you manage to find some time? :PO 03:50 us`0gb Megaf: Not a whole lot of time to find. Time for what? 03:51 Megaf yourself 03:51 us`0gb None, sadly. 05:35 MinetestBot jp__: 06-21 00:17 UTC Your Server map is up! 05:36 jp__ Great ! What's address, Eater4 ? 05:59 kaeza greetings 06:06 OldCoder o/ kaeza 06:06 OldCoder zzz 06:16 Zeno` hi 06:50 nman3600 Hello 06:59 lulz hello :) 07:01 kaeza hi 07:01 HatedByMost hi 07:06 Calinou hi 07:06 nman3600 Hi 07:08 Calinou to GitHub, whining about something is a contribution \o/ 07:09 kaeza lol 07:34 Calinou I segfault when using third person on a 0.4.9 server :( 07:46 nman3600 Hello LemonLake I only just realised you've joined 07:46 LemonLake nman3600: Only just? Aight. 07:46 nman3600 I'm struggling to get reinforced cobble (it uses so many sticks) 07:46 LemonLake I'm working on a skype client, so I'll need your help quite a bit. 07:47 nman3600 K LemonLake 07:47 Calinou Skype client? Microsoft would like to hear back 07:47 Calinou really, you'll end up getting a C&D letter, Skype “replacement” clients aren't allowed 07:48 LemonLake Calinou: For personal use. 07:48 LemonLake Microsoft have ditched their product for Linux and I rely on Skype for a lot of things. The linux one just does not work. 07:48 Calinou have fun having something functional anyway… 07:49 LemonLake Also, I just want to learn the skype protocol, python and wxWidgets. 07:49 nman3600 *sigh* Getting reinforced cobble (from darkage) is such a pain in the ass to craft 07:49 LemonLake Either way, what I want or do not want to do is none of your business. 07:49 LemonLake I was speaking to nman. 07:50 nman3600 :) 07:50 Calinou what's the use of reinforced cobble? 07:50 Calinou if you're worried about griefing, hide your base underground 07:50 Calinou it'll take time to be discovered 07:51 LemonLake nman3600: Can I teamview you every now and then? I'll try not to disrupt your work 07:51 nman3600 LemonLake sure i'm online now and someones giving me the final reinforced cobble i need 07:51 LemonLake Okay. I'll send you a confirmation request whenever I need it. 08:28 HatedByMost Hay john_minetest 08:33 SylvieLorxu Parcel tracking is terrible 08:33 SylvieLorxu http://xkcd.com/281/ :( 08:34 HatedByMost Windows ftw 08:34 LemonLake since when 08:34 HatedByMost random 08:37 enchilado true level: so 08:38 SylvieLorxu I bought some music, last update: 08:38 SylvieLorxu Your item cleared customs in NETHERLANDS at 1:49 am on June 21, 2014. 08:38 SylvieLorxu So it SHOULD probably arrive soon, but when? :P 08:38 enchilado It better be on vinyl 08:38 SylvieLorxu Nope, CD :P 08:38 enchilado Why would you buy physical music that wasn't on vinyl? 08:39 SylvieLorxu Because 08:39 enchilado We have the Internet 08:39 enchilado The future is now 08:39 SylvieLorxu - I like CDs 08:39 SylvieLorxu - I can play CDs in the car 08:39 enchilado ... 08:39 SylvieLorxu - What's wrong with CDs? 08:39 enchilado You can play digital music in your car 08:39 SylvieLorxu I can't 08:39 enchilado They get damaged easily 08:39 enchilado You can't access them from anywhere 08:39 enchilado You can't listen to music from multiple CDs at once 08:39 SylvieLorxu I already have a FLAC copy of his entire discography anywhere 08:39 SylvieLorxu >You can't listen to music from multiple CDs at once 08:40 enchilado Why can't you play digital music in your car? 08:40 SylvieLorxu I wouldn't recommend to listen to more than one song at once in the first place 08:40 enchilado I'm sure you know what I meant 08:40 enchilado If you want to listen to a song from a different album or artist you need to take the CD out and put another one in 08:40 SylvieLorxu Because I can't, and I can't be bothered converting my music collection to a crappier format because I don't know any car audio player that plays FLAC 08:41 SylvieLorxu And CDs are nice to look at 08:41 enchilado Does your car have good enough speakers to make FLAC worthwhile? 08:41 SylvieLorxu http://cloudkickermusic.com/merch/the-discovery-cd-by-blood-music | http://cloudkickermusic.com/merch/the-eps-cd-by-blood-music 08:41 SylvieLorxu :P 08:41 enchilado Surely if your car's audio is that good it can play from a phone or MP3 player? 08:41 SylvieLorxu Probably not, but converting my whole music collection to a worse format isn't worthwhile either 08:42 SylvieLorxu I don't have enough storage on my phone to safe my music as FLAC 08:42 SylvieLorxu *save 08:42 SylvieLorxu CDs just work and they're pretty 08:42 enchilado Surely there's some better solution than a CD :( 08:42 SylvieLorxu Why would Vinyl even be better? 08:42 enchilado Couldn't you like burn the tracks you have onto one anyway rather than buying it 08:42 SylvieLorxu No, because I want to support this artist 08:43 enchilado But you already bought the music 08:43 SylvieLorxu I mean sure I could but I don't want to 08:43 SylvieLorxu No, I didn't, I downloaded it for Free from his homepage 08:43 enchilado Ah 08:43 SylvieLorxu His entire discography 08:43 enchilado Fair enough then 08:43 enchilado I was assuming you paid for it already 08:43 SylvieLorxu Nope :P 08:44 SylvieLorxu Artist gets 40 bucks, I get two nice CDs and feel better about downloading all his stuff for free :P 08:44 SylvieLorxu Also, the albums just have an interesting story 08:44 SylvieLorxu http://www.heavyblogisheavy.com/2014/04/17/ben-sharp-of-cloudkicker-responds-to-unauthorized-blood-music-lps/ 08:45 enchilado What kind of music is it? 08:45 enchilado Heavy metal? 08:45 SylvieLorxu The guitar-jamming kind, simple instrumental Prog-Rock, I'd say :P 08:45 enchilado Ah 08:45 SylvieLorxu http://cloudkickermusic.com/track/he-would-be-riding-on-the-subway-or-writing-formulas-on-the-blackboard-or-having-a-meal-or-as-now-sitting-and-talking-to-someone-across-a-table-and-it-would-envelop-him-like-a-soundless-tsunami :P 08:46 enchilado I prefer music with vocals 08:46 SylvieLorxu (His latest album is calmer, but I got older stuff) 08:46 SylvieLorxu I like both, depends on my mood 08:46 enchilado Is all of that the name of it? 08:46 SylvieLorxu Yup, he went a most Post-Rock style :P 08:47 SylvieLorxu Anyway, AFK for a bit 08:47 enchilado I might listen to it later, other stuff playing at the moment 08:51 sapier hmm prepare to pay addon taxes if your country demands them for delivery from china ;-) 08:52 sapier well then hope it's not gonna be delivered to you directly :) or maybe ups is doing the tax things for dell 08:55 sapier do you have any ide why: 08:55 sapier --snip-- 08:55 sapier errorstream << "attaching" << std::endl; 08:55 sapier jvm->AttachCurrentThread(&jnienv, &lJavaVMAttachArgs); 08:55 sapier --snip-- 08:55 sapier works while 08:55 sapier --snip-- 08:55 sapier jvm->AttachCurrentThread(&jnienv, &lJavaVMAttachArgs); 08:55 sapier --snip-- 08:55 sapier doesn't? 08:56 sapier to make it even worse that issue only occurs if I disable all debug support 09:14 SylvieLorxu john_minetest: >Agent pickup 09:14 SylvieLorxu That means they'll go and put backdoors on it 09:16 * PenguinDad hugs ChanServ 09:17 * markv slaps ChanServ with a fish 09:17 markv No shit 09:17 * john_minetest gives ChanServ a <'(((((--< 09:18 * markv gives john_minetest a 8===> 09:18 PenguinDad "ChanServ donated 486 ops in the channel... " and "ChanServ donated 37 voices in the channel... " 09:19 SylvieLorxu Yay, albums arrived! :D 09:20 * john_minetest throws a Thinkpad T61 at markv 09:20 Eater4 jp__: by morinig actually, witch is in 5 hours 09:21 SylvieLorxu SylvieLorxu | http://cloudkickermusic.com/merch/the-discovery-cd-by-blood-music | http://cloudkickermusic.com/merch/the-eps-cd-by-blood-music 09:21 SylvieLorxu ^ john_minetest 09:21 Eater4 i forgot to port foward 09:21 Eater4 And I have to go back to bed 09:21 jp__ G'morning so ;) 09:22 jp__ or g'night, idk... 09:22 Eater4 lol 09:23 Eater4 It's at isis.inchra.net #minetest now but it isn't avil to the public yet 09:23 jp__ > /time 6000 USA 09:24 jp__ Ok, thanks ! 09:24 Eater4 Would you like it on the public server list? 09:24 jp__ Yes, sure ! :) 09:24 Eater4 lol 09:24 Eater4 /time 6000 all 09:25 jp__ Port 30000 for isis.inchra.net ? 09:25 Eater4 No, I meant the irc server 09:26 jp__ Ah... 09:26 PenguinDad ^ +1 09:27 jp__ Skype for Linux sucks, but you should install Skype for Windows through Wine. 09:27 Eater4 ?? 09:28 Eater4 oh I get it: lol 09:28 Eater4 No it doesn't... 09:28 Eater4 did you try mono_runtime? 09:30 jp__ Able to run only in the Wine sector. 09:31 jp__ They can't infect the Linux system. 09:33 Eater4 Hours? It took me 30 seconds to download mono 09:36 Eater4 just download mono separately... 09:39 SylvieLorxu john_minetest: Interesting 09:40 jp__ For the .deb, you've just to click on and then "install the package". 09:40 SylvieLorxu john_minetest: What style is it? It looks Punk-ish 09:41 SylvieLorxu john_minetest: Indie pop makes me think of this: http://youtu.be/NgglSW3IWco 09:42 SylvieLorxu (I won a copy of their album in a Facebook contest without having a Facebook account, I have no clue how...) 09:44 SylvieLorxu (YouTube, stop defaulting to 360p, that's no way to listen to music) 09:45 SylvieLorxu Loonix 09:45 * markv is on Winux 09:45 SylvieLorxu Trisquel 6 09:45 SylvieLorxu Oh, I see, yeah, that's more pop-ish 09:46 SylvieLorxu Heh, they feel so old-school 09:46 ecutruin What should I make for my first test mod? 09:46 SylvieLorxu Like the old pop stuff, not the new and ruined style 09:49 SylvieLorxu I don't have flash either, Trisquel doesn't have it in their repos :P 09:49 SylvieLorxu gnash sucks 09:49 SylvieLorxu YouTube works fine with HTML5 09:50 SylvieLorxu Yeah, need to disable NoScript :P 09:50 markv 217.35.229.223 09:50 markv Last ip :( 09:50 SylvieLorxu But if mpv works, I'll get it. I used to use youtube-dl but... it is broken on Trisquel 09:51 SylvieLorxu Hmm, no mpv in the repos 09:51 SylvieLorxu Oh well 09:53 markv * Ping reply from sslv.tk: 41.909 second(s) 09:53 markv What do I win? 09:55 PenguinDad markv: you win math.pi cupcakes 09:55 markv * Ping reply from sslv.tk: 0.000 second(s) 10:08 SylvieLorxu john_minetest: Not bad 10:08 SylvieLorxu Not bad at all 10:11 sfan5 meow 10:11 sfan5 hi everyone 10:12 jp__ Hi sfan5 10:12 sfan5 SylvieLorxu: maybe this is useful for you? https://gist.github.com/sfan5/8672767 10:24 LemonLake Speaking of skype, does the linux version of skype miss the GET/SET AVATAR command in P7? 10:28 enchilado skype? are you kidding me? 10:29 PenguinDad john_minetest: what else would you expect from M$? 10:31 Jordach >Firefox can't find the server at xkcd.com. D: 10:31 sfan5 john_minetest: the solution is easy: don't use skype 10:36 jp__ john_minetest : https://plus.im/ 10:37 jp__ (Skype web-supported) 10:39 PilzAdam http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=TODO&curid=365&diff=2129&oldid=2087&rcid=2316 does someone know where this is? 10:39 PilzAdam s/where/who/ 10:40 sapier you're talking about jamesK89? ... no I don't know him 10:42 Zeno` does it matter who it is? If the contribution was accurate then *shrug* 10:42 sapier no but it'd be interesting to know 10:42 Zeno` true 10:42 PilzAdam the wiki is not the correct place to suggest things 10:43 PilzAdam he should talk to RBA directly instead of writing it the TODO article 10:44 sapier especially as rba most likely wont even notice it there 10:45 Jordach someone needs to remove TODO for minetest_game 10:45 Jordach because that's an outdated concept :3 10:46 Zeno` oh I didn't see that 10:46 Zeno` TODO is outdated? 10:46 sapier for frozen things yes ... ;-) 10:46 PilzAdam Jordach, let the people dream and then hit the truth in their face >:-) 10:47 PilzAdam Zeno`, the TODO page is incomplete, outdated, wrong, and a lot of other bad things too; everyone has their own plans on what to do next and doesn't care to write it into a wiki 10:47 sapier 0.4.10 game selection, PLZ vote! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9116 10:48 jp__ Pity there are no poll in phpBB... 10:48 PilzAdam sapier, I would vote for "None, and a nice Game Manager", but that doesn't seem to be an option 10:49 jin_xi +1 10:49 jin_xi but nice is no priority, if it just kind of works 10:49 Zeno` I haven't done a lot of investigating, but why is minetest_game deprecated? 10:49 sapier I won't write another game manager until it's settled down if minetest shall be a collection of games or mods 10:50 jin_xi Zeno`: no consens on what it should be mostly 10:50 sapier both concepts don't really match very well 10:50 Zeno` hmm ok 10:50 RealBadAngel huh, thx to PilzAdam i have noticed that ;) 10:50 Zeno` jin_xi, and if a new game is bundled that will be more likely to have consensus? 10:51 Zeno` or are "bundled" games the way of the dodo? 10:52 jin_xi thats the wrong way too look at it 10:52 RealBadAngel sapier, i would love to see there "creatures" by Taoki, its still a mod but gonna be a game 10:52 RealBadAngel you should try it 10:52 jin_xi not games bundled with minetest, but some game supported by mt... 10:52 Zeno` jin_xi, I'm not trying to be difficult :) I just want to understand 10:52 Taoki I'll be making a game with other creatures and a lot more things in the future, yes 10:52 jin_xi just as there is no default game for flash 10:52 Zeno` so I can make plans 10:52 sapier It's not me to decide about games I just do advertisement 10:52 Taoki I still suggest trying out creatures for minetest_game though 10:52 Taoki BTW... there are female versions of the human mob now :) 10:53 Taoki You can possess them like all other mobs and play as any you wish 10:53 Taoki Just like with monsters etc. Used several skins from skin mod 10:53 RealBadAngel Ive updated Unified Inventory with intllib support and some tooltips 10:53 RealBadAngel so translations are welcome 10:54 sapier I wonder how many different mob variants we gonna need 10:54 RealBadAngel theres started german and polish translation already 10:54 Zeno` sapier, perhaps there needs to be a consensus hehehe 10:54 Zeno` (sorry just kidding) 10:55 Taoki RealBadAngel: Oh, I was curious. Does Unified Inventory automatically adapt to all and any inventory and craft area sizes? As well as new elements added to the formspec? Creatures mod might work with it, although I tend to doubt it's compatible and can become so 10:55 sapier mobs are same as always ... everyone thinks he can do better ... that works for some time as the primitive things can be done fast ... once ppl start to fix the more complex things their mod will become as slow and complex as all other mob mods 10:55 jin_xi so minetest_game should be renamed to something like shitty_minecraft_boilerplate 10:56 RealBadAngel Taoki, i dont think so, that should be added 10:56 * Taoki nods 10:56 Taoki sapier: Maybe try it out sometime. I think I managed to improve SimpleMobs to have a way more complex behavior, while the mod should still be as lightweight 10:58 Zeno` A C API would make things "lighter" 10:58 sapier if I have some time left ... not sure when this will be ... by now everytime I had a look at simplemobs I've been disapointed because exectly those issues claimed to be solved have just been ignored 10:58 PenguinDad Zeno`: Why not C++? 10:59 sapier why not assembler? 10:59 Zeno` PenguinDad, not really required 10:59 Zeno` sapier, if there is a C API then assembler will work (cdecl assumed) 10:59 sapier there's no need for c api too 11:00 Zeno` I disagree, but I'm too new for my opinion to count :) 11:00 sapier the basic issues aren't a matter of language but engine design and that wont be fixed magicaly by doing it in c 11:04 asie sapier is correct 11:04 asie Lua is quite the fast language, especially with LuaJIT 11:10 Zeno` PenguinDad, basically because C++ (without templates and after compiled) is the same as C just with a pointer to the object plus maybe some pointers to member functions 11:11 Zeno` C is more like Lua than C++ is 11:12 Zeno` asie, LuaJIT is still about 10x slower than C 11:13 PenguinDad Zeno`: C can be slow too 11:13 Zeno` Lua is great for most things... I just don't know about mapgen and all those O(n^3) functions 11:14 Zeno` PenguinDad, I agree :) 11:14 markv Guests annoy me 11:15 sapier Zeno that's wrong in general, for some types of operation lua is as fast as c/c++ 11:15 Zeno` sapier, I apologise. I was generalising. 11:15 sapier and mapgen issues aren't related to language but to exactly those enginge issues I mentioned 11:15 Zeno` bad habit of mine 11:15 PenguinDad Let's use Julia for noise functions 11:16 Zeno` Julia Sets? 11:16 sfan5 Zeno`: if C is too slow it is either bad programming, a bad compiler, bad compiler flags (-O0) or something really advanced (like video encoding) 11:16 PenguinDad Zeno`: http://julialang.org/ 11:16 sfan5 ^ PenguinDad not Zeno` 11:16 sapier and yes in theory a mob done in c/c++ will be (slightly) faster but at cost of customizability and modability 11:18 asie Zeno`: 10x? 11:18 asie I'm sure otherwise 11:19 asie Even Java is only 1.5x slower than C in just about every single benchmark 11:23 Zeno` looking for the reference I read only a week or so ago 11:24 Zeno` unfortunately benchmarks are hard to come by 11:28 Zeno` can't find it 11:29 Zeno` but 1.5^3 is 3.375... accounting for overhead I don't see a 10x degradation as impossible 11:31 Zeno` anyway it doesn't matter :) 11:31 Zeno` 'cause it's not gonna happen heh 11:32 asie Zeno`: Pff. 11:33 asie http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/ 11:34 Zeno` pff :) 11:34 Jordach pfft 11:47 HatedByMost http://imgur.com/gallery/TzODf 12:28 HatedByMost http://i.imgur.com/UugsXQR.jpg 12:28 m5 Hi! 12:28 m5 ANyone else use Tor? 12:28 HatedByMost hi 12:29 Jordach_ ask the NSA 12:30 PilzAdam m5, lot of feds do 12:30 m5 Ikr 12:30 * m5 doesn't like tor 12:30 PilzAdam Jordach_, the NSA doesn't really know 12:31 markv Jordach_, /nick Jordach 12:32 Jordach BT be fucking with my connection again 12:32 markv Get the great ZNC 12:33 markv I have ZNC on the laptop next to me which is connected to 3g 12:33 markv And I connect to it with a crossover cable 12:33 markv Actually my ZNC is in germany but that would be cool anyway 12:34 Jordach do i have a Quassel Core? NO 12:39 FungusAdam uh oh 12:39 PenguinDad /nick MushroomAdam 13:02 Jordach i shouldn't OTT raytracing 13:02 Jordach i've now had to limit Blender's thread count 13:12 markv Jordach, What's the longest something's rendered? 13:12 Jordach uhm 13:13 Jordach you consider 24 hours for a single 16k masterpiece? 13:13 Jordach i woke up the next morning to check it and it fucking crashed in front of me 13:16 HatedByMost PilzAdam, do you have any idea why it's not possible to "jump" in carts when there are multiple players online? 13:19 markv Longest for me is 9 hours 13:19 markv and a proposition of 16hrs which i kindly told to fuck off 14:18 Megaf us`0gb; wow, you still here :) 15:01 nman3600 Well? 15:01 nman3600 markv 15:02 us`0gb Megaf: No, I was asleep. And now I'm off to work. 15:19 nman3600 Hi Jordach 15:20 Jordach 500w PSU = warm motherfucking desktop 15:22 Jordach oh good, at least that new system fan actually cools my desktop 15:39 Exio4 Jordach: i have a chinese 600w PSU 16:29 Jordach i might have taught ecutruin the basics of blender :3 16:30 ecutruin In like no time either 16:37 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 16:37 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (658ms) 16:38 Megaf weird, my server is consuming a lot of resources and theres no one online 16:39 Megaf yep, it used all memory 16:40 Megaf sapier; minetestserver consumed all available memory (2GB) is that expected? 16:40 HatedByMost Ctrl + C 16:40 Megaf That's a first for me 16:40 sapier not exactly ;-) 16:40 Megaf HatedByMost; did that, but it will take a while till the Linux Kernel put order in place 16:41 HatedByMost #linux 16:41 Megaf minetest@odroid-wheezy:~$ free -m 16:41 Megaf bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory 16:41 Megaf lol 16:41 sapier you're on plain linux x86 megaf? 16:42 Megaf plain Linux, standar Debian Wheezy yes 16:42 Megaf on ARM 16:42 Megaf :) 16:42 Megaf no screen 16:42 HatedByMost s/screen/GUI 16:43 sapier try using valgrind 16:43 Megaf well, the graphical manager and X were running 16:43 Megaf Im shutting them down to free some memory 16:44 Megaf 51 MB free before, 78 now 16:44 Megaf its something 16:45 HatedByMost 8 people online - 176 MB ram used 16:45 Megaf time to create a temp swap 16:45 Megaf dd if=/dev/zero of=/SWAP.img bs=1M count=512 16:46 Megaf HatedByMost; yep, first time it uses too much ram with my current configuration 16:47 HatedByMost Megaf, I never exceeded the 400 MB RAM usage.. I wonder what's happening on your machine 16:47 Megaf maybe some luacontroller 16:48 HatedByMost there's no active chunk at players = 0 16:48 Megaf and sometime some buggy clients just start to sink in the ground 16:48 HatedByMost check for force-loaded blocks 16:48 Megaf and fall to the infinite 16:48 Megaf that may make the server generate several chunks 16:49 Piggybear87 Howdy folks! 16:50 Megaf Common Linux Kernel, I got some swap now, start to unload some ram already and put it on disk 16:50 Megaf 1 MB of swap used, whoah! 16:50 Megaf 2 now 16:50 Megaf server still shutting down] 16:50 HatedByMost Megaf, force loaded mapblocks will become force loaded again after the next sart, so you really sohuldcheck if there's a problem 16:51 HatedByMost *start 16:51 Megaf max_forceloaded_blocks = 12 16:51 Piggybear87 Ever since I started booting in recovery, I've had SOMETHING say "Fail", but it went too fast for me to see what it was. My Girlfriend said "is there a bug file?" So I looked for it and found boot.log. I Found this, and I was wondering if it's bad. 16:51 Piggybear87 * Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server[fail] 16:51 Megaf my problem may be here server_unload_unused_data_timeout = 21600 16:52 Megaf Piggybear87; that's something you don't need unless you use your Linux box as windows server 16:52 Piggybear87 Ah, OK. Then nothing else is wrong. Thanks! :) 16:53 Megaf active directory is a windows service to provide contacts and accounts syncronization across services 16:54 Megaf HatedByMost; sapier; Ok, managed to shutdown minetestserver properly, now I have 1972MB of free ram 16:54 HatedByMost max_forceloaded_blocks = 12 16:54 HatedByMost https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/defaultsettings.cpp 16:54 HatedByMost where? 16:54 Megaf so indeed, something wrong 16:55 HatedByMost that setting you told doesn't exist 16:55 Megaf sapier; did you remove that setting? 16:59 HatedByMost protip: disable vsync first to make pause_fps_max useable 16:59 sapier no I didn't touch forceloading code ... nor will I 17:00 Calinou CraigyDavi's signature says “My mods, texture packs and other stuff.”, it's exactly the text I used, heh 17:01 CraigyDavi Ah that's where I got the idea to put that in my signature from ;) 17:01 CraigyDavi I'll change it 17:06 Calinou it's OK 17:08 HatedByMost proller: if the math mapgen gets removed, then is here an unused default setting: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/defaultsettings.cpp#L262 17:12 Jordach goddamn blue screens 17:12 Jordach they're like fucking unicorns on W8 17:12 Calinou system crashes become rarer and rarer on modern OS 17:14 HatedByMost wow. developers finally noticed BSoD and fix them 17:21 Megaf thisi s spaming my server log 17:21 Megaf 14:21:06: ACTION[ServerThread]: tried to dig default:cactus at protected position (98,16,371) 17:21 PenguinDad HatedByMost: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/c4359ff65cd8e4e754442b9f2ef7051a8eaa4241/builtin/game/forceloading.lua#L25 17:22 HatedByMost PenguinDad, interesting. seems like defaultsettings hasn't added everything 17:22 Megaf lol, thats my node brakers] 17:22 Calinou someone is into cacti, Megaf 17:22 Megaf whey they dont dig my cactus anymore? 17:22 HatedByMost ^ 17:22 HatedByMost protection mods 17:22 Megaf it used to work 17:22 Jordach Megaf, there's a fake player doing the digging now 17:26 Megaf Ok, I replace all nodebreakers, now they work 17:27 Megaf reseted them 17:28 Calinou “resetted“ isn't a word, past tense is “reset” 17:30 Calinou anyone has a mod to remove torches when they're placed in a water? I presume an ABM could do this 17:32 ecutruin Thanks Jordach for the lesson, here's the result saved and uploaded - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53977587/Chest.gif 17:33 HatedByMost Y NO MT textures? 17:34 LemonLake because jordach does MC anims 17:34 Jordach HatedByMost, LemonLake: ecutruin is a well known MC modder 17:34 * HatedByMost mever playd MC 17:34 Jordach i just took him through the process that i learned from 17:34 * HatedByMost expects a possible fake-account 17:34 ecutruin Actually I'm working on trying to get animation support for MC.. so I needed experience with animation, which Jordach is very good at. 17:35 HatedByMost +1 17:35 ecutruin Now I've learned the basics, and it really did take long. 17:35 ecutruin TeamViewer is very handy for interractive learning. 17:35 Calinou they love to hear you use it, but only if you buy it 17:35 Calinou 17:36 * ecutruin laughs. 17:36 HatedByMost TV is also good if you use the fre edition 17:36 ecutruin Yeah, I'm using the free edition. 17:36 Calinou what I mean is, their business model is fairly laughable at 17:36 HatedByMost true 17:37 ecutruin Yeah.. kinda. But I'm sure large businesses would use it for remote tech support. 17:37 LemonLake Yes, but not the free version 17:37 LemonLake That's against the ToS 17:37 Jordach considering it took me about one minute to get helping :3 17:38 ecutruin Yeah. All in all that was a good hour or so from basic model to fully UV mapped, rigged, and animated model. I'd say for someone who NEVER touched Blender before, that's pretty awesome. At least I'm happy. 17:39 ecutruin And, yeah, as a late response to the other comment, I'm the designer/artist of Ender Storage mod from MC. But.. if you don't play MC.. yeah, I'm just a voxel artist. 17:45 Calinou become a Minetest modder :D 17:46 LemonLake I used to mod for MC. 17:46 * sfan5 meows at Calinou 17:46 LemonLake But with every forge update it just become more complicated so I gave up 17:46 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'((((--< 17:48 ecutruin Lemon, yeah.. that's kind of my worry with starting to mod with MC again. However, I've been assured by one of the devs (the one that's going to build this new animation system) that they should be able to make it rather painless for me to create content. So I'm happy. 17:48 LemonLake I just want them to update their documentation. That's all. 17:48 ecutruin If It doesn't work out... MT looks like a pretty damn good alternative. 17:48 LemonLake I'll wait for the official modding API to come out before I go back to MC. 17:48 LemonLake In the meantime, MT is my time-spender. 17:49 Calinou “alternative” cough cough 17:50 LemonLake ecutruin is right, tho 17:50 ecutruin Calinou, to be fair.. MC is a bit ahead in what I can do.. 17:50 LemonLake You designed the MC storage mod, right? 17:51 LemonLake Not made it? 17:51 Calinou depends if you're into writing thousand of line hacks 17:51 LemonLake If so, where can I find evidence on this? I'm just interested. 17:52 ecutruin LemonLake, download Ender Storage, and look at the creditS? 17:52 * sfan5 gives john_minetest a kitten 17:52 LemonLake Okay, I believe you then 17:52 ecutruin You could also take a look at the ForgeCraft wallpaper, I'm on that too. 17:54 ecutruin Ocelot skin. ^-^ 17:54 LemonLake Oh nice :) 17:55 Jordach heck - i even made a proper rendering of ecutruin 17:57 LemonLake Niiiiiiiice! 17:57 * ecutruin snickers. 17:57 ecutruin My one mod made me a big shot in the community I guess.. 17:57 * ecutruin shrugs. 18:00 luizrpgluiz hii 18:01 PenguinDad KSP == Kitten Space Program xD 18:02 luizrpgluiz hii 18:02 PenguinDad EHLO luizrpgluiz 18:03 luizrpgluiz hi Penguin 18:13 Megaf I cant run KSP here 18:13 Megaf its fuc*ing 32 bit only 18:13 Megaf skype for linux is 32 bit too 18:13 Megaf I really cant understand that 18:14 Megaf using 32 bit now a days is like using 16 bit in windows xp 18:14 Kray wat 18:14 Kray you can run 32-bit software on a 64-bit system 18:14 sfan5 except it's hell with steam 18:14 Megaf but you gonna need to install several 32 bit libs 18:15 Kray also there is a 64-bit version of ksp 18:15 sfan5 it's complaining libc.so.6 is missing even if libc6:i386 is installed 18:15 Kray and boohoo, extra libraries 18:15 PenguinDad john_minetest: what else would you expect from M$? 18:16 PenguinDad ^ Megaf regarding skype 18:18 Megaf I tried to run it here once and it wouldnt work 18:20 ecutruin Maybe they should be a bit less thin.. but otherwise I love it. <3 18:23 Exio4 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqqu36hCMAANuEQ.jpg 18:23 CraigyDavi RBA's shaders seems to have made things too bright 18:24 CraigyDavi To the left is with the new shaders, to the right is without them https://cdn.mediacru.sh/wB9R48FL6MZQ.png 18:24 sfan5 Exio4: dem photoshop skillz 18:24 CraigyDavi It's blindingly bright 18:25 Megaf wheres the 64 bit of KSP? https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/demo.php 18:25 PenguinDad CraigyDavi: which new shaders? 18:26 PenguinDad s/shaders/shadars/ 18:26 Calinou it's not like it deserves being played 18:26 CraigyDavi PenguinDad, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/6c98fd 18:27 CraigyDavi Here's another pic, to the left is the new shaders 18:27 CraigyDavi https://cdn.mediacru.sh/QTfimTMApNu_.png 18:28 sfan5 CraigyDavi: I think left just has a different color 18:28 sfan5 compare the grass & the pole 18:28 sfan5 I think the colors on the left are much nicer 18:29 CraigyDavi Well the grass and the pole are not light sources 18:29 CraigyDavi It just seems that the light sources are much brighter 18:29 sfan5 you're talking about light sources? oh 18:30 sfan5 maybe the color was just corrected 18:30 PenguinDad CraigyDavi: I think this might be caused by a0f78659f31abdce973bc6641b5b5a58f2ba9afc 18:30 sfan5 try comparing the actual color with the color in the texture 18:31 CraigyDavi Ah yes, you're probably right, PenguinDad 18:33 Jordach you know those moments when i get a creepy ass face and not a non-creepy one, this time, i got a stupidly funny one 18:33 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/fzK9JmHqZhDA.png 18:35 diemartin that's actually nice 18:35 Jordach kaeza, i'm literally laughing because this line makes it perfect: "does this look like the face of mercy?" 18:36 kaeza plol 18:36 Jordach things not to do in blender: shit yourself! 18:36 * kaeza throws https://cdn.mediacru.sh/9_cECdSR5HyA.png into the channel and runs 18:37 PenguinDad kaeza: that's the OS of the future! 18:37 Kray Megaf: the 64-bit executable comes in the same package 18:38 Jordach fun fact: Windows 3.1 is immune to all current windows malware 18:38 Megaf Ok, I'm downloading it 18:38 Kray i have KSP.x86 and KSP.x86_64 18:38 Kray and KSP.exe 18:38 Megaf Jordach; I'm not sure, there are a lib for windows 3.x that enable it to run 32 bit apps 18:39 Megaf Kray; ouch, you are one of those persons who still using windows? 18:39 Kray wat 18:39 sfan5 >Kray >using windows 18:39 sfan5 as if :D 18:39 Kray i use windows at work 18:39 Megaf ah, so you use Linux, you said KSP.exe... 18:40 Calinou is it possible to make players collide with each other? 18:41 Calinou I'd like that, especially when pvp is on 18:41 Megaf That would never work on the current minetest state 18:41 sfan5 LemonLake: before you ask, yes it's me 18:41 Megaf it's just way to laggy and unresponsive 18:41 Jordach <- still uses windows due to UEFI stuff 18:41 * Megaf throws Debian 64 bit at Jordach 18:41 Megaf and Fedora 18:41 Jordach not because i can't go legacy, just because i still want my goddamn ability to control system fans 18:41 Megaf they support UEFI 18:41 sfan5 Jordach: linux works perfectly fine with uefi 18:42 Calinou it's just way to laggy and unresponsive 18:42 Calinou why not? 18:42 sfan5 depending on distro 18:42 Calinou I think it used to be in some old version 18:42 sfan5 but fedora, [xkl]?ubuntu and linux mint work IIRC 18:43 Megaf KSP runs really slow on my PC =/ 18:43 Megaf unplayable 18:43 PenguinDad Debian and Fedora work perfectly with UEFI 18:43 Megaf yep, they work fine with EFI on macs too 18:44 Megaf (my case) 18:44 Calinou all distros work OK with UEFI motherboards, these days 18:44 Calinou Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch all have ways 18:46 Megaf yay! KSP works now a days! 18:51 LemonLake Krock, you need some sort of whois thing on your serevr 18:51 LemonLake server* 18:51 LemonLake so we can get player's ips and stuff 18:59 HatedByMost LemonLake, could you say "Krock," again plz? It didn't highlightme 18:59 HatedByMost :P 18:59 LemonLake You're renamed. 18:59 LemonLake HatedByMost: you need a whois on your server to get player ips etc 18:59 HatedByMost why would I need to get IPs? 18:59 HatedByMost ban gets them 19:00 LemonLake to do things like geoip 19:00 LemonLake multi-user checking 19:00 LemonLake etc 19:03 HatedByMost aha 19:05 Calinou "Code cleanup, added beds by PilzAdam, added player respawn sounds. 19:05 Calinou john_minetest, I boot in BIOS mode too, with GPT partition (hey, Windows can't do that) 19:06 HatedByMost cool. I did the name (Code cleanup) 19:06 Calinou and 4096 CPU cores, probably 19:07 Exio4 [15:57:21] UEFI needs a special partition and a special bootloader. 19:07 Exio4 never needed anything like that 19:07 Exio4 my mobo supports GPT/UEFI 19:07 Exio4 i use it without problems 19:07 sfan5 john_minetest: linux was also the first OS to support usb 2.0 IIRC 19:08 HatedByMost +1 john_minetest 19:08 Exio4 i don't have any small partition, UEFI works 19:08 * sfan5 throws gummi at john_minetest 19:08 HatedByMost GUMMIBOOT :D 19:10 sfan5 !title 19:10 MinetestBot sfan5: ein knall rotes gummiboot - YouTube 19:10 PenguinDad john_minetest: it's knallrot isn 19:10 HatedByMost xD 19:10 PenguinDad +'t it 19:11 * sfan5 throws an u-boot at john_minetest 19:12 * john_minetest throws a herd, a hird and a hurd of GNUs at sfan5 19:13 * sfan5 throws debian hurd at john_minetest 19:14 * john_minetest throws an arch hurd at sfan5 19:14 sfan5 that's no longer maintained 19:14 * john_minetest chokes sfan5 with his archlinux-arm 19:15 sfan5 my raspi runs archlinux arm 19:15 * PenguinDad 05t04h07r08o03w09s 10a 11r02a12i06n13b05o04w 07G08u03m09m10i11b02o12o06t 13j05o04h07n08_03m09i10n11e02t12e06s13t 19:18 PenguinDad john_minetest: you should print that on a shirt 19:18 HatedByMost john_minetest, cd / 19:20 HatedByMost this guy has much cpu and gpu power: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aTmIP13goU 19:20 PenguinDad !title 19:20 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Minecarts!? - YouTube 19:22 * PenguinDad executes "set hbling" 19:31 PilzAdam john_minetest, cd ././././././././. to get on my level 19:32 * sfan5 grounds PilzAdam 19:32 * PilzAdam throws :(){ :|:& at sfan5 19:33 * sfan5 forks away 19:34 Calinou cd - 19:36 sfan5 john_minetest: are you seriously using bash? 19:37 * sfan5 throws zsh at john_minetest 19:37 sfan5 zsh FTW! 19:37 sfan5 why? 19:38 sfan5 THEN CHANGE THE CONFIG! 19:38 sfan5 meow :3 19:38 * kaeza slaps sfan5 with command.com 19:39 kaeza yes, not even cmd.exe 19:39 Calinou you need to cd at lest once, john_minetest 19:39 kaeza :D 19:39 Calinou GNU AGPL :p 19:39 Calinou may be good for mods 19:40 PenguinDad zlib/libpng ftw 19:41 Calinou zlib is a saner WTFPL, same for MIT 19:44 HatedByMost DBAD is non-free but nice too 19:48 Calinou you don't have permission to execute this program* 19:48 Calinou HatedByMost, DBAD sucks 19:48 Calinou it's a dick 19:48 sfan5 john_minetest: if your program is special the linux kernel itself may modify it while it's run 19:48 Calinou john_minetest, zlib is better at not letting people confuse others 19:48 HatedByMost it actually is. and language is ignored 19:49 * sfan5 flips HatedByMost 19:50 * Jordach flips Krock 19:50 Krock . 19:50 Krock flipped and flopped 19:54 Krock wtf? .ogg is also video? 19:54 Jordach >Zoom is the ability to expand a subset of the picture; we humans have no such ability. Well, I take that back; we do: we just get up off the couch and walk up closer to what we want to see 19:54 Jordach <3 Blender wiki 19:55 Krock john_minetest, thought, it's just audio... thx 19:56 PilzAdam is "ALL HAIL THE PROGRAMMER" in the licence GPL GNU/compatible? 19:57 Krock GNU is the center of the world 19:57 Krock *cough* 19:57 Jordach nothing GNU, justa bunch of techhie hippies 19:57 Jordach that is GNU in a nutshell 20:00 Calinou Krock, .ogv is more often used 20:00 Calinou .oga could be used for audio, but very few people do that 20:07 sfan5 john_minetest: wrong, ogg can hold opus too 20:07 Krock life is life nananana 20:07 sfan5 Jordach: https://rms.sexy/ 20:07 Jordach pfft 20:08 Jordach i don't see the point in open source considering the UEFI is locked down 20:20 Calinou that makes no sense 20:20 Calinou UEFI could be made not so locked down if motherboard manufacturers played well with the community; of course, they don't 20:20 sfan5] Jordach: UEFI is not locked down at all, your BIOS is locked down by default 20:25 Calinou both are too locked currently 20:26 sfan5] both = UEFI and BIOS? 20:41 ExcaliburZero Currently LemonLake and I are working on this Minetest mod website, and we were wondering if any of you have any ideas of how to make the design more Minetest themed: 20:41 ExcaliburZero http://excaliburzero.github.io/minetest-mod-recorder/ 20:42 Krock needs more mods 20:42 Krock style is fine 20:42 PenguinDad ExcaliburZero: A green colour tone would fit minetest better imo 20:43 sfan5 GREEN! 20:44 PenguinDad !neerg 20:44 sfan5 !rev !neerg 20:44 MinetestBot green! 20:44 LemonLake Green. 20:44 LemonLake I'll do green then. 20:44 Calinou sfan5, yes 20:44 ExcaliburZero Green sounds good. 20:44 Krock ah yes. the on_hover effect for links is too bright color 20:45 Calinou green is the Minetest colour 20:45 Calinou be gentle on hover colour 20:45 Calinou also, how about More Blocks and Map Tools? :p 20:45 Krock how about airsword? 20:45 markv reggin 20:46 ExcaliburZero I'll be sure to add more mods soon. 20:46 ExcaliburZero It is also on GitHub, with the website being here: 20:46 ExcaliburZero https://github.com/ExcaliburZero/minetest-mod-recorder/tree/gh-pages 20:47 ExcaliburZero And the scripts to make the html file here: 20:47 ExcaliburZero https://github.com/ExcaliburZero/minetest-mod-recorder 20:47 LemonLake Working on the color pallete 20:47 Calinou palette, 1 l and 2 t 20:48 LemonLake Maybe I could use the grass texture for the headings. 20:48 diemartin "pallete" is valid english AFAIK 20:49 Calinou the less images you use, the better it is 20:49 LemonLake It's just one image. 20:49 Calinou diemartin, my spell check (English and French) says it's a typo 20:49 Calinou LemonLake, still more than 0 :P 20:49 Calinou lenghtens load time, bad for high-dpi devices and zoom users 20:49 * Calinou is updating MCE to work nice with the latest version of Minetest 20:50 * sfan5 is meowing 20:52 PenguinDad "Meintest, Deintest, Unsertest!" german minetest song xD 20:53 sfan5 PenguinDad: you forgot "Euertest!" 20:59 PenguinDad sfan5: that's only the title of the song 20:59 Krock ExcaliburZero, it's not about styling but - could you make categories? 21:00 ExcaliburZero Krock: Do you mean listing mods by categories? 21:00 Krock exactly. 21:00 LemonLake Yep, I'm gonna make a JS to do that 21:00 Krock sfan5 ^ 21:00 LemonLake Actually, ExcaliburZero you any good with JS? 21:01 sfan5 Krock: hm? 21:01 Krock JavaScript 21:01 ExcaliburZero No, unfortunately, I don't know much Javascript. 21:01 sfan5 and? 21:01 sfan5 I'm probably not going to do that 21:01 Krock waith...I thought you don't like it 21:01 LemonLake Okay then, I'm happy to try my hand at making it 21:01 sfan5 ExcaliburZero: JS is easy 21:01 Krock nvm then 21:01 LemonLake I'm good with JS, its just the concept that may take time 21:03 LemonLake https://mediacru.sh/kdcd6DnEx_Fc 21:03 LemonLake Hows that? 21:03 sfan5 LemonLake +1 for that design 21:04 Calinou looks bad, LemonLake 21:04 Krock -1 for no complete green background 21:04 Calinou hard to read, ugly, image-using 21:04 Krock xD 21:04 LemonLake Well at least tell me how to improve it 21:04 Calinou the data visualization is poor 21:05 LemonLake That's not fault of mine 21:05 Calinou (tip: use colours, bold, italic, underline appropriately) 21:05 LemonLake Oh I see 21:05 Calinou Krock, dark background is ideal: easier on the eyes 21:05 Calinou many people think web pages should be pieces of paper though :phoronix rolleyes: 21:05 Krock Calinou, dark BG also makes eyes tired 21:05 LemonLake dark bg looks better with brighter text (not just white) but bigger fonts 21:07 jp__ Coloured backgrounds may have disastrous results on some (old) screens. The universal background is white. And Google has studied it. 21:08 LemonLake +jp__ 21:08 Krock google studies everything 21:09 LemonLake even us 21:09 Krock night' 21:12 Calinou Calinou, dark BG also makes eyes tired 21:12 Calinou it's probably the inverse, if the text is not too contrasted 21:13 Calinou “The universal background is white.” → screens use additive, not substractive 21:13 Calinou RGB, not CMYK 21:13 Calinou Google studies also thing privacy is irrelevant \o/ 21:15 PilzAdam if white is too bright for you, make the screen more red 21:15 LemonLake ^ 21:16 PilzAdam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift_%28software%29 21:16 jp__ Anyway, white isn't a W3C standard by hasard... 21:16 jp__ This is the least random color. 21:17 ExcaliburZero For the headings with the grass texture could you try making the white into a brown? 21:17 LemonLake Hmm 21:18 ExcaliburZero To specify, the white background not the white text, 21:18 LemonLake Yeah I know what you're saying 21:24 Jordach TIL Terraria has a decent finite water system 21:24 LemonLake I like it, it's unique. 21:24 LemonLake More realistic than MT. 21:26 PenguinDad why would you even need finite water? 21:32 Exio4 redshift is freaking amazing 21:32 Exio4 i don't think i could live without redshift 21:33 PilzAdam Exio4, I think you could 21:34 Exio4 my life is 500% better after using redshift 21:38 Exio4 after using redshift, i can finally use my computer at night without killing my eyes 21:41 sfan5 Exio4: >wanting to use the computer at night 21:41 * PenguinDad needs blueshift 21:41 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 21:43 PenguinDad My eyes actually hurt from low temperature light 21:50 * sfan5 goes to sleep :3 ~~ 21:59 LemonLake That's a new quit message. 22:00 LemonLake Unless it's not a real one. 22:00 sfan5 if it were real there would be no "Quit: " in front of it 22:00 LemonLake Ah 22:00 * sfan5 goes back to sleep 22:00 LemonLake What is the point of making it look like that though? 22:00 sfan5 there's no point 22:00 LemonLake Exactly. 22:00 * sfan5 goes back to sleep again 22:02 PilzAdam sfan5, there is one at the end 22:03 sfan5 not funny 22:03 LemonLake tryin to find a good anime to get into 22:03 LemonLake finished hyouka, finished kokoro 22:04 sfan5 LemonLake: I have two you should _not_ watch: Date a Live II, Black Bullet 22:05 LemonLake are they bad? 22:05 sfan5 basically yes 22:05 LemonLake aight 22:06 LemonLake will remember 22:08 sfan5 LemonLake: if you haven't seen Mirai Nikki, watch that; if xyz were here he'd recommend you to watch Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita 22:08 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix uncought deserialization error on receiving data a0097c6 2014-06-22T00:05:41+02:00 http://git.io/dYwywA 22:08 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix server assert in case of invalid message from client, just kick that client. f8522d5 2014-06-21T23:56:46+02:00 http://git.io/vdm_jA 22:09 LemonLake Looking at the synopsis it sounds interesting. 22:09 LemonLake I'll check it out later. 22:10 sfan5 LemonLake: here are some more: Fullmetal Alchemist, Kill la Kill, Noragami, Suisei no Gargantia 22:10 * sfan5 now really goes to sleep 22:11 LemonLake I don't watch them that fast :p 22:12 * Jordach MEOWS AT sfan5 22:20 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Support for scalable font and gui elements d4245e6 2014-06-22T00:08:55+02:00 http://git.io/0PQC8w 22:31 PenguinDad Good night everypony! 22:52 Miner_48er worldedit what's the cmd to unhide? 22:53 LemonLake you mean hide the selection? 22:53 Miner_48er unhide the selection 22:53 LemonLake did you hide it with unmark? 22:53 Miner_48er no //hide 22:54 LemonLake ahh i see 22:55 LemonLake i think if you just unmark it 22:56 Miner_48er no 22:57 Miner_48er just hides the markers 23:01 Miner_48er /restore 23:01 LemonLake ah 23:05 LemonLake omg 23:05 LemonLake mirai nikki is so awesome 23:06 LemonLake it sorta tips the hat to people nowadays 23:06 LemonLake 'your phone is your life' 23:25 LemonLake MANIAC 23:32 LemonLake sfan5: that anime is simply amazing. thanks so much :D