Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:03 |
OldCoder |
Vazon, indicate what happens |
00:04 |
VanessaE |
Vazon: a cURL client is any client built against libcurl, which is most of the ones floating around now. that's all. |
00:05 |
VanessaE |
sfan5's or blockmen's builds, for example, have cURL |
00:06 |
VanessaE |
as do PilzAdam's and fess's |
00:08 |
Vazon |
im using the one i from here |
00:09 |
Vazon |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3837 |
00:23 |
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00:38 |
OldCoder |
Vazon, tested? |
00:39 |
VanessaE |
that's not anyone's specific build, but I don't see cURL in there. |
00:39 |
VanessaE |
that's Calinou's one-line method *of* building it |
00:40 |
VanessaE |
but it makes it *your* build, technically :) |
00:40 |
Piggybear87 |
OldCoder, I still cannot connect. |
00:40 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, are you using a curl client? |
00:40 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, wait; which world? |
00:40 |
Piggybear87 |
Yes, the PPA vesion is built with it. |
00:40 |
Piggybear87 |
30011 |
00:40 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
00:40 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, I am migrating it to LevelDB |
00:41 |
OldCoder |
It's about 54% done |
00:41 |
Piggybear87 |
Oh, so it's not up right now? |
00:41 |
OldCoder |
No; migrating to LevelDB for speed and endurance |
00:41 |
Piggybear87 |
Oh, cool! |
00:41 |
OldCoder |
Looks like that might take a couple more hours. If something goes wrong, might be all night. But worth the effort. |
00:42 |
Piggybear87 |
Why does it take so long? |
00:44 |
Vazon |
OldCoder it worked, the ungernerating did. people are still timing out tho |
00:44 |
Piggybear87 |
Vazon, Which server? |
00:44 |
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00:44 |
OldCoder |
Vazon, they will need curl clients |
00:44 |
Vazon |
Piggy, Minerealms |
00:44 |
Piggybear87 |
Your Server, right? |
00:44 |
Vazon |
mhmm that sucks |
00:44 |
Vazon |
Piggy yes, your free to join me |
00:45 |
OldCoder |
curl? It is reasonable |
00:45 |
OldCoder |
It looks like the media fetch is working |
00:46 |
Vazon |
OK |
00:46 |
Piggybear87 |
I'm still hanging at media... |
00:48 |
Vazon |
really? |
00:48 |
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00:48 |
Piggybear87 |
I was doing OK till I switched to the PPA Minetest, and for what? Ease of updating? Too lazy to open Terminal to launch Minetest... |
00:49 |
Piggybear87 |
It loads media exactly to the middle, the center of the "d". |
00:50 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, is it a curl build? |
00:51 |
Piggybear87 |
In the esc menu, it says curl=1, so I assume so. |
00:52 |
* Piggybear87 |
munches Dove chocolate and cries... |
00:54 |
Piggybear87 |
*Snif* |
00:54 |
Piggybear87 |
Sniff* |
00:56 |
* Piggybear87 |
guesses this is as good time as any to work on his server's map. |
00:57 |
Piggybear87 |
Ping if you need me. |
00:57 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, working on the issue |
00:57 |
Piggybear87 |
I know. |
00:57 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, you can help by finding people to discuss curl with me |
00:57 |
OldCoder |
I'm seeing requests for actual media files such as GET /media/curl/robin2.ogg instead of the hashes sfan5 had me make. |
00:57 |
OldCoder |
I need to find somebody to discuss that ^ point with |
00:57 |
Piggybear87 |
I join #minetest-dev also, Lol I saw that. |
00:57 |
OldCoder |
kk |
00:58 |
OldCoder |
Well, if you can find somebody, ping me |
00:58 |
OldCoder |
I can't do much until the answers are clear |
00:58 |
Piggybear87 |
That seems like it's coming from a mod. Mobf maybe? |
01:00 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, it's probably a request sent by an older MT client which doesn't support the hashed filenames, though I'm just guessing |
01:00 |
Vazon |
OldCoder is it possible to make it where they dont need curl?? even my players who have played before are timeing out :| its bumming me out |
01:00 |
Piggybear87 |
I can't even play MY OWN server because it locks my computer... Minetest USED to be good for old computers... |
01:01 |
* kaeza |
looks at Buildcrap |
01:03 |
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01:04 |
Vazon |
kaeza what is that? |
01:04 |
kaeza |
Vazon, what is what? Buildcra[ft]? |
01:05 |
Piggybear87 |
OldCoder, My girlfriend has the same problem as me. Hangs at media... |
01:05 |
Vazon |
oooo xD now i understand |
01:05 |
Vazon |
Piggy it will take upwards of 20 min jsut give it time |
01:05 |
Vazon |
to more you restart it will cause your tiem to restart |
01:06 |
Piggybear87 |
Why??? That's ridiculous.... |
01:06 |
kaeza |
it's one of those clients that surfaced a while ago in some mobile device stores (illegal BTW) |
01:07 |
Vazon |
idk Piggy that is how long i was told it takes by one of the people who waited to join my server, i hate it soo much |
01:07 |
Piggybear87 |
I bitched that guy out in the comments. Saying "You use almost ALL of Minetes't code (even minetest.register_node) and you don't mention them ANYWHERE! And I call him a douche. |
01:07 |
Vazon |
i thought buildcraft was built by sapier? |
01:08 |
Piggybear87 |
Only since the update, I say we all go back one version... |
01:08 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, I am trying to find somebody to explain curl |
01:09 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, try now |
01:09 |
Piggybear87 |
Which one? |
01:09 |
OldCoder |
Minerealms |
01:10 |
Vazon |
im getting complaints that blocks are laggin now |
01:10 |
Piggybear87 |
Still hangs. And no game is worth a 20 minute wait to load... |
01:10 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, (1) are you using a curl client (2) did you restart it? |
01:10 |
sapier1 |
no I'm not involved in buildcraft |
01:11 |
OldCoder |
sapier1, Hi! |
01:11 |
OldCoder |
sapier1, can you comment on curl? |
01:11 |
Vazon |
Piggy once your in once your fine but you have to wait for the first one |
01:11 |
Vazon |
o i thought you built it so i installed it sapier, i will be deleting it |
01:11 |
sapier1 |
not really I don't know much about our way of using it |
01:11 |
Piggybear87 |
OldCoder, Yes to both. Vazon, I'm soory, but, it's not worth it... |
01:12 |
Piggybear87 |
sorry* |
01:12 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, well, I've done what's possible |
01:12 |
Vazon |
Piggy yes nothing i would wait for ether and it seems no one wants to wait ether :( |
01:12 |
OldCoder |
sapier1, sfan5 told me to make hashes. But clients are requesting filenames. |
01:13 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, Vazon you can help by reporting this in the dev channel |
01:13 |
asl |
Vazon: pm |
01:13 |
Piggybear87 |
Maybe put a version of the servers on different ports while you're testing. |
01:13 |
sapier1 |
kahrl did write the curl code maybe he can help |
01:13 |
Vazon |
OldCoder can you revert back to before yesterday?? it was fine till then |
01:14 |
OldCoder |
Revert *what* ? |
01:14 |
OldCoder |
sapier1, when is he around? |
01:14 |
Vazon |
revert the curl and the other thing you added yesterday |
01:15 |
OldCoder |
curl is not something that is revertable... it is simply a feature |
01:15 |
OldCoder |
And I didn't add anything yesterday the way you mean |
01:15 |
sapier1 |
hard to tell oldcoder just try and hope |
01:15 |
OldCoder |
I got no time to do so sapier1 |
01:15 |
Vazon |
you did something while all the servers was down i cant remember what that was |
01:15 |
sapier1 |
vazon are you on android? |
01:16 |
Vazon |
atm no im laptop but the buildcraft is |
01:16 |
sapier1 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9389 if yes try latest one ... last time I did look at buildcraft it's codebase was way outdated |
01:17 |
Piggybear87 |
OldCoder, get one build older versions of Minetest, so people can play while you figure this out. |
01:19 |
sapier1 |
it's not necessaryly oldcoders fault, curl uses http thus if something within your provider infrastructure changed e.g. some transparent proxy beeing added .... that could cause issues too |
01:20 |
Vazon |
yes i know sapier its no ones fault |
01:20 |
asl |
!up minetest.org 30012 |
01:20 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.org:30012 is up (1352ms) |
01:21 |
Piggybear87 |
Wow, what a ping... |
01:21 |
asl |
i guess shadowbot is broken :P |
01:21 |
Vazon |
Piggy we arent lagging tho |
01:21 |
OldCoder |
The server is up |
01:22 |
Piggybear87 |
That high of a ping may be why it takes so long to connect. |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
My pings are normal |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
Is there some network outage going on? |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
What region are you in Piggybear87? |
01:22 |
Vazon |
OldCoder there is no lag |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
So you are on? |
01:23 |
Piggybear87 |
Florida. |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
Hm |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, I don't know if there *is* a problem |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
There are a number of conflicting signs |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
Sorry |
01:23 |
Vazon |
yes but people are timing out :| me don and Miles are on no one else is able to join, they jsut time out unless they wait for 20+ min |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
Vazon, Piggybear87 see all the above |
01:23 |
asl |
piggybear, try pinging the server on your side |
01:23 |
OldCoder |
There is nothing I can do. I see few changes in the source code recently. |
01:24 |
asl |
ping -c 5 minetest.org |
01:24 |
OldCoder |
I will try reverting the core a few days. |
01:24 |
Vazon |
ok |
01:24 |
asl |
my avg is 494.624 |
01:25 |
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01:26 |
Piggybear87 |
Avereage 240 |
01:26 |
Piggybear87 |
Average* |
01:26 |
asl |
you got better ping than me and yet you aren't able to connect lol |
01:26 |
Vazon |
asl its because you joined before the changes |
01:27 |
OldCoder |
There were no changes except rebuild |
01:27 |
OldCoder |
Which means that there may be a bug in the core |
01:27 |
OldCoder |
Or else weird network problems in the U.S. today |
01:28 |
Piggybear87 |
Like I said, get a one build older build. It may be the code, not network. |
01:29 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, (1) find me somebody who can discuss the curl setup or (2) find me somebody who can discuss a git revert |
01:29 |
OldCoder |
There is nothing more that I can do without such a person who will talk |
01:29 |
Piggybear87 |
Screw git, get stable. |
01:29 |
OldCoder |
I am connecting fine to the world BTW |
01:29 |
Vazon |
OldCoder there is nothing wrong with the network this has been happening since you restarted all the servers yesterday |
01:29 |
OldCoder |
D: |
01:29 |
OldCoder |
Vazon, don't presume to lecture me |
01:29 |
Vazon |
sorry im not trying to be rude, im just stating a point |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
Both of you, see the above; I need help from a dev who will discuss one of the two things |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
I just connected to Minerealms |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
Just now; and it is working fine |
01:30 |
Piggybear87 |
Why not just get stable and stick with stable builds? |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
Stable won't work with some mods IIRC |
01:30 |
OldCoder |
And many clients IIRC |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
Plus I am not sure there is a problem |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
Plus we need the latest curl support code |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
As curl seems to be the only fix for this sort of issue |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
|
01:31 |
OldCoder |
Find me somebody to talk about the two issues. Else there is nothing more I can do. |
01:31 |
Piggybear87 |
Still hang at media. |
01:31 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, what client are you using, exactly? |
01:32 |
Piggybear87 |
The newest, I got it this afternoon. Around 1:00 PM my time. |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
Batman is online |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
Newest from *who* |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, exactly where did you get it? |
01:32 |
Piggybear87 |
The PPA. |
01:32 |
Vazon |
ya that is Don his nickname is changed |
01:32 |
OldCoder |
What happens when you use an older client? |
01:33 |
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01:33 |
Piggybear87 |
I don't know. I'm no longer self compiling. |
01:33 |
OldCoder |
Can you revert to an older client? |
01:34 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, people are unhappy. They say they cannot connect. |
01:34 |
OldCoder |
I'd really like to find somebody who can discuss curl. |
01:34 |
Piggybear87 |
Not without self compiling. I may be able to get stable. |
01:34 |
VanessaE |
strange |
01:35 |
VanessaE |
AHHHHHHHH the comfort of xchat again |
01:35 |
OldCoder |
See what happens |
01:35 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, comments? |
01:35 |
asl |
the only change you did was setup the remote media iirc |
01:35 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87 is quite sad |
01:35 |
OldCoder |
asl, I did that because of the connect issue |
01:35 |
OldCoder |
So it started before that |
01:35 |
* Piggybear87 |
is still munching Dove chocolates and crying... |
01:35 |
OldCoder |
Other people said that MT does not work any more without curl |
01:36 |
* Vazon |
steals Piggybear87's Dove chocolates and crys himself. |
01:36 |
asl |
piggybear, you got everything install that is needed to build minetest? |
01:37 |
Piggybear87 |
Yes. I can get on other servers with no problem.. |
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01:38 |
Piggybear87 |
I cannot get stable, because I will have to "apt-get install minetest" Which I already did for daily/unstable. |
01:39 |
Piggybear87 |
I could maybe install Wine again and try the Windows version of stable. |
01:41 |
asl |
build from git |
01:44 |
Vazon |
resarting OldCoder? |
01:48 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
01:48 |
Vazon |
ok |
01:52 |
Vazon |
OldCoder |
01:53 |
Vazon |
i found something that may help |
01:53 |
OldCoder |
Vazon, ? |
01:53 |
Vazon |
read the last post this is from SAFR: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9344&p=144325#p144325 |
01:53 |
OldCoder |
Summarize it |
01:54 |
Vazon |
21:38:59: ACTION[main]: Client: Contacting remote server "http://minetest.org/media/curl/" he gets that error |
01:54 |
OldCoder |
Vazon, what happens when you connect to 30012 presentling? |
01:54 |
OldCoder |
* presently? |
01:54 |
Vazon |
i log in |
01:54 |
OldCoder |
No hangup? |
01:54 |
OldCoder |
Vazon, in that post is there a solution? |
01:55 |
Vazon |
and now the time outs leaves him with this ERROR: Client disconnected. |
01:55 |
Vazon |
no im jsut statign the errors that hes getting so help |
01:55 |
OldCoder |
Vazon, is anybody but Piggybear87 having problems ATM? |
01:56 |
asl |
http://minetest.org/media/curl/ is forbidden? |
01:56 |
Vazon |
the media pauses for like 10 sec. and yes most everyone. |
01:56 |
OldCoder |
I am not seeing this |
01:56 |
OldCoder |
asl, there is no index.html file |
01:56 |
OldCoder |
asl, do you lock up on media or not for 30012? |
01:56 |
OldCoder |
sapier1, You don't know about the curl hash issue, right? |
01:57 |
sapier1 |
no |
01:57 |
asl |
no but that cause i join before the change and already gotten the media |
01:57 |
Vazon |
asl does not becuase he joined the before the changes happened |
01:57 |
OldCoder |
No |
01:57 |
OldCoder |
I have restarted the world numerous times |
01:57 |
OldCoder |
asl, exit and reenter |
01:57 |
asl |
the media only download once |
01:57 |
OldCoder |
Delete your cache, then |
01:57 |
asl |
:/ |
01:58 |
OldCoder |
Or just rename it |
01:58 |
OldCoder |
Nothing lost, then |
02:00 |
asl |
i am building the newest minetest from git so that will have to wait since the cpu is being using for building |
02:00 |
OldCoder |
kk |
02:01 |
OldCoder |
Vazon, delete your cache and connect to your world? |
02:01 |
OldCoder |
And which client are you using? |
02:02 |
Vazon |
im using a dev about a month old |
02:03 |
Vazon |
this file? CMakeCache |
02:05 |
asl |
mine is way back in april |
02:05 |
Vazon |
nvm found it |
02:06 |
Vazon |
media is moving but slowly but im not getting hung up |
02:08 |
Vazon |
ok im in it just moved slowly |
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02:11 |
Vazon |
sapier are you not able to join? |
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03:02 |
LazyJ |
Any leveldb experts in here? I'm curious if there is any appreciable advantage of switching Minetest worlds from sqlite to leveldb backends. I've read that leveldb is faster but how stable is it? Faster, but is it significant enough? |
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03:30 |
sydney |
goodnight everyone!! |
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03:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
Is there a way to make an integer public? |
03:58 |
kaeza |
eh? |
03:59 |
jordan4ibanez |
As in I have a void function but I want to make one of the integers created in the function available to all functions |
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04:04 |
Piggybear87 |
Vazon, intercat please? |
04:07 |
Megaf |
LazyJ; |
04:07 |
Piggybear87 |
Vazon, Please hurry, I lag like crazy at your spawn, I need interact. |
04:07 |
Megaf |
[00:02:43] <LazyJ> Any leveldb experts in here? I'm curious if there is any appreciable advantage of switching Minetest worlds from sqlite to leveldb backends. I've read that leveldb is faster but how stable is it? Faster, but is it significant enough? |
04:07 |
Megaf |
well |
04:07 |
LazyJ |
Howdy, Megaf ;) |
04:07 |
Megaf |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30001 |
04:07 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (428ms) |
04:07 |
Megaf |
see it for youself |
04:07 |
Megaf |
That's my Raspberry Pi using LevelDB |
04:08 |
Megaf |
630 MHz |
04:08 |
Megaf |
single core, ARM |
04:08 |
LazyJ |
I've been reading the Internet and a few things are starting to shed some light on my question. |
04:09 |
LazyJ |
I converted a backup copy of Wazuland2 and there are corrupted blocks and none of the test builds in the world are saved. |
04:10 |
LazyJ |
The world.sqlite file is 6.1gb. |
04:10 |
Piggybear87 |
Vazon, nevermind You took too long. Asking for interact sucks... |
04:10 |
Piggybear87 |
I'm out. Bye. |
04:10 |
LazyJ |
After the leveldb migration, the map.db directory weighed in at about half that (3.4gb). |
04:10 |
Megaf |
interesting |
04:10 |
Megaf |
well, I created the world in leveldb already |
04:11 |
Megaf |
I will keep testing for some more weeks, then I MIGHT migrate my main server to leveldb |
04:11 |
LazyJ |
I've done that too with my much smaller, singleplayer, test worlds. |
04:11 |
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04:11 |
LazyJ |
What I came across on the Internet makes me doubt that leveldb is a good option for Minetest atm. |
04:11 |
LazyJ |
The drastic file reduction was do to the fact that leveldb uses compression by default. |
04:12 |
LazyJ |
This takes up less disk space but works the cpu harder to do all the compression and decompression on the fly. |
04:12 |
Megaf |
I think LevelDB is much more likely to corrupt when the server crashesd |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
ANNOUNCE: Landrush and Minerealms both converted to LevelDB. Both running now with curl, luajit, O3 optimization. |
04:12 |
LazyJ |
That was another point I read. |
04:12 |
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04:13 |
OldCoder |
LazyJ, It has a journal |
04:13 |
Megaf |
OldCoder; 03 is default for minetest release, isnt it? |
04:13 |
LazyJ |
Sqlite may be more bloated but seems to survive crashes better than leveldb. |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
Vazon, asl, Landrush and Minerealms are both up |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
Megaf, did they change that? |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
I checked the code |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
Thought it was -O2 |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
LazyJ, I have observed the opposite |
04:13 |
Megaf |
OldCoder; well, sapier said that Release is 03 |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
It may be so now then |
04:13 |
Megaf |
and debug is 02 or 01, I dont remember |
04:14 |
LazyJ |
The other thing that bothered me was that apparently leveldb requires more disk seeks per read. |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
That is fine; thank you |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
LazyJ, on the whole for the purposes of MT LevelDB seems to be much faster due to the nature of acesses |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
sqlite3 is of course more portable |
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fishyWET |
Hi OldCoder, u saw my messages left on the lott server? |
04:15 |
LazyJ |
Faster is good only if it can tolerate crashes and isn't easily corrupted. |
04:15 |
OldCoder |
fishyWET, Yes. Thanks. Amaz said I could mention the world here. |
04:15 |
OldCoder |
I have kept server announce turned off. |
04:16 |
LazyJ |
Until Minetest creates leveldb worlds instead of sqlite worlds by default, I'll wait. |
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fishyWET |
alright thanks, u can probably turn it on two days from now |
04:16 |
LazyJ |
Perhaps by then things will be more polished. |
04:16 |
OldCoder |
fishyWET, Vazon, Amaz, asl There is one more request I have of people. I want coords of interesting places. The Places mod is good for this. |
04:16 |
OldCoder |
I will make a travelogue |
04:17 |
OldCoder |
I will see if Places mod is still around and add it |
04:17 |
fishyWET |
just wondering, wat's places mod abt? |
04:18 |
OldCoder |
You can bookmark places and leave remarks about them |
04:18 |
OldCoder |
Handy for documenting locations easily |
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fishyWET |
oh alright |
04:19 |
Megaf |
LazyJ; well, we could try to change default leveldv options |
04:19 |
Megaf |
maybe with those changes it will be as fast/slow as sqlite3 |
04:19 |
Megaf |
sqlite can be as fast as leveldb, if you dont use sync, ie = 0 |
04:19 |
OldCoder |
Bad idea? |
04:19 |
Megaf |
but then it would be as easy to corrupt as leveldb |
04:20 |
OldCoder |
LevelDB has a journal, right? |
04:20 |
OldCoder |
I have never observed corruption with it |
04:20 |
Megaf |
bottom line, use sqlite3 with default options (2) |
04:20 |
Megaf |
OldCoder; kill your serfver with kill -9 PID a couple of times and then we talk again |
04:20 |
OldCoder |
? |
04:20 |
Megaf |
server* |
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Megaf |
s/server/test server |
04:22 |
Megaf |
let me PTS now, good night (Pee, brush my Teeh and Sleep) |
04:23 |
Megaf |
Cya |
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Miner_48er |
will sqlite3 remain supported in future versions? |
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LiveEvil |
i forgot how to pm lol |
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Vazon |
Piggybear87 |
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Vazon |
o he left |
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Vazon |
!tell Piggybear87 Sorry I was busy when you joined i will grant you interact tomorrow as soon as you join :) |
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MinetestBot |
Vazon: I'll pass that on when Piggybear87 is around |
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sfan5 |
LazyJ: leveldb is a bit more stable than sqlite3 |
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LazyJ |
Thanks, sfan5. The migration process didn't work so well for me. |
07:02 |
sfan5 |
report any problems to the github bug tracker or to me |
07:03 |
LazyJ |
I'm not sure what to report on this one. |
07:03 |
LazyJ |
The problems I was having with the converted world were not showing up in the terminal. |
07:03 |
LazyJ |
*That* was a problem. |
07:05 |
LazyJ |
It wasn't until I poked around in the map.db folder and read into the log files that I found reports of compaction errors and corrupted blocks. |
07:05 |
LazyJ |
I have no experience with the inner workings of leveldb so these logs were nothing useful to me atm. |
07:07 |
sfan5 |
well |
07:07 |
sfan5 |
uh.. |
07:07 |
sfan5 |
those .log files are not ascii text |
07:07 |
sfan5 |
but this might be a bug in leveldb itself |
07:08 |
LazyJ |
2014/06/08-19:40:42.678133 7fe5214ab700 Compaction error: Corruption: bad entry in block |
07:08 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: I fought with zeno's server and lost (after he also fought and lost) with leveldb maps being re-generated post-migration, yet those same migrated maps worked perfectly for me |
07:08 |
sfan5 |
:-/ |
07:09 |
sfan5 |
I guess it's time for me to write a mysql backend |
07:09 |
VanessaE |
and indeed I have no trouble with it on my local machine or on my server |
07:09 |
LazyJ |
It might make a difference if the worlds started with leveldb. |
07:09 |
VanessaE |
but he and cg72 both just could. not. make. it. work. |
07:10 |
VanessaE |
LazyJ: indeed - a world that started as leveldb seemed to work, according to those two; my worlds as you know were migrated. |
07:10 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Fix #1358 (disappearing clouds) e17d29ccd6 2014-06-09T08:18:33+02:00 http://git.io/-KtGyw |
07:11 |
LazyJ |
It took over 3hrs to migrate the world on my i7 computer. |
07:11 |
sfan5 |
the migration only uses one cpu |
07:11 |
LazyJ |
And there is no indication during or after that anything was amiss. |
07:11 |
sfan5 |
it can't even use more in the most cases |
07:11 |
sfan5 |
leveldb returned an OK everytime then |
07:12 |
LazyJ |
I don't recall what the output in the terminal was during the migration. |
07:13 |
sfan5 |
if levedb were to return an error the migration would instantly stop |
07:25 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: 0gb-us commited to minetest/minetest: Added show_debug to minetest.conf.example c6a9eae3ae 2014-06-09T10:23:38+03:00 http://git.io/6zPwMw |
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sfan5 |
http://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/27h4ur/requesthow_many_stickybombs_would_it_take_to_get/ci14i6r |
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sfan5 |
lol |
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VanessaE |
someone has too much time on their hands. |
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Calinou |
on their hooves |
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VanessaE |
whatever |
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Calinou |
lol, was randomly walking in cave, putting torches |
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Calinou |
then *gib sound plays* |
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Calinou |
with punch sound |
11:06 |
Calinou |
was an oerkki |
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Calinou |
dungeon masters can be used to make tunnels: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ZNYxop-bFAFn.jpg |
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Calinou |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/S35RpulBsfiI.png |
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Calinou |
new Carbone screenshot on the texture pack topic |
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Krock |
hi |
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Krock |
where's ShadowBot at inchra.net? |
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raffahacks |
hello! |
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raffahacks |
sfan5: meow! |
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Megaf |
Forming all |
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Megaf |
I mean, Morning all |
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Megaf |
:) |
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PenguinDad |
Good afternoon Megaf |
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PilzAdam |
good afterform Megaf |
12:57 |
Megaf |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (838ms) |
13:10 |
* Krock |
updated secret_passages |
13:14 |
* Krock |
meows 94 times at PilzAdam |
13:14 |
* PilzAdam |
places each meow into a post |
13:14 |
* Krock |
reports that as anti-spam |
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13:39 |
Megaf |
meh, if I use OpenGL on minetest for windows I get borked textures, if I use direct3d8 minetest crashes when starting, the window doesnt even show up, if I use direct3d9, textures are fine, performance is fine, but soon I get "Access Violation" |
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Krock |
s/broked/broken |
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Krock |
version? |
13:40 |
w_laenger |
hi |
13:40 |
Krock |
ih |
13:41 |
Megaf |
minetest-0.4.9 by sfan5 |
13:41 |
Krock |
newest? |
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PenguinDad |
Megaf: Stable or dev? |
13:41 |
Megaf |
I tested several versions with OpenGL all of them with broken textures |
13:41 |
Megaf |
stable PenguinDad |
13:41 |
Krock |
get dev |
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Krock |
Megaf ^ |
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13:42 |
Megaf |
man, don't you understand what "stable" means? |
13:42 |
Megaf |
Will we get to that discusion again? |
13:42 |
Krock |
it means outdated |
13:43 |
w_laenger |
0.4.9 doesn't support minetest.override_item |
13:43 |
Krock |
some problems there have been fixed with newer dev-builds |
13:43 |
Krock |
..and doesn't have 3rdplayer view |
13:44 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: who needs third person view? |
13:44 |
Megaf |
I'm gonna try Minetest 0.4.9-dev20140605 by BlockMen |
13:44 |
w_laenger |
I need it |
13:44 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, me. doing skin check and selfies |
13:45 |
Krock |
making new skins is also not very efficient when you need 2 players/clients |
13:45 |
w_laenger |
I'm not sure if I did something wrong: With the newest minetest I don't get the right error messages if I write something wrong when I make mods. |
13:46 |
Megaf |
That build just show an error message and dont start |
13:46 |
Krock |
w_laenger, reproduce the error and paste-bin it |
13:46 |
w_laenger |
it always tells me something at items.lua add_node works wrong |
13:46 |
PenguinDad |
Megaf: which error message? |
13:46 |
Megaf |
GetTickCount64 could be foun |
13:46 |
Krock |
Megaf, get sfan5's build |
13:46 |
Megaf |
could not be* |
13:46 |
Krock |
not blockmens |
13:47 |
w_laenger |
ok |
13:47 |
Krock |
that's a problem of win 5.1 aka XP |
13:48 |
w_laenger |
there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7618177/ |
13:48 |
w_laenger |
I just didn't use brackets at pairs |
13:48 |
Krock |
w_laenger, show codes |
13:49 |
w_laenger |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/7618183/ line 24 |
13:50 |
Megaf |
Krock: sfan5: |
13:50 |
Megaf |
Irrlicht log: DIRECT3D9 Driver was not compiled into this dll. Try another one. |
13:50 |
Megaf |
lol |
13:50 |
w_laenger |
I didn't use brackets at pairs and the problem were at add_node |
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w_laenger |
was* |
13:50 |
Megaf |
Irrlicht log: DIRECT3D8 Driver was not compiled into this dll. Try another one. |
13:50 |
Krock |
Megaf, use OpenGl, d3d9 doesn't work well anyway |
13:50 |
Megaf |
Are you sure this is a windows build? |
13:50 |
Megaf |
Newer versions of Windows doesnt even ship with OpenGL |
13:51 |
Krock |
w_laenger, weird error. |
13:51 |
Krock |
Megaf, everything suports OpenGL |
13:51 |
PenguinDad |
what no OpenGL in Windows 8.1? |
13:51 |
w_laenger |
how can I fix it? |
13:52 |
Krock |
w_laenger, print("step X with data YZ") at every 2nd line |
13:52 |
Krock |
see how much gets potputted be4 crash |
13:52 |
Krock |
*outputted |
13:53 |
w_laenger |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/item.lua#L276 |
13:53 |
Megaf |
well, the latest sfan5 build have broken textures too |
13:53 |
Megaf |
and it supports only OpenGL |
13:53 |
Megaf |
I need a working build with working Direct3D8 support |
13:53 |
w_laenger |
Maybe it's because of "core" |
13:54 |
Krock |
it must be a argument error |
13:54 |
Krock |
either pos or the table is wrong |
13:54 |
Krock |
Megaf, only soulation: try freeminer or bug blockmen to get it running |
13:54 |
Krock |
(or sfan 5) |
13:54 |
w_laenger |
I know what's wrong but minetest usually knows this too |
13:55 |
* Megaf |
looks at proller |
13:55 |
Krock |
w_laenger, debug with "print(dump(place_to).."\n"..dump(newnode))" at https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/item.lua#L274 |
13:56 |
w_laenger |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/c4359ff65cd8e4e754442b9f2ef7051a8eaa4241 I think that caused it |
13:57 |
Krock |
w_laenger, I use such functions daily and never got any errors |
13:58 |
Megaf |
Now, changing topic, I wonder, what a player that expend hours only *with no interact priv* is doing? |
14:00 |
w_laenger |
I think it's caused by this mod... "ac" |
14:00 |
w_laenger |
the error message should look a bit like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7618222/ |
14:03 |
w_laenger |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/7618236/ this is the mod |
14:05 |
Megaf |
the mod trash can works great on my raspberry pi server |
14:06 |
w_laenger |
I accidentally unloaded a xchat plugin and didn't find out a way to add it back yet |
14:06 |
w_laenger |
Megaf, which one? |
14:06 |
Megaf |
hm |
14:07 |
Megaf |
s/trash_can $ ls |
14:07 |
Megaf |
depends.txt dumpster.lua init.lua README.txt sounds textures |
14:07 |
Megaf |
This one :P |
14:07 |
Megaf |
w_laenger: https://github.com/4Evergreen4/ |
14:07 |
Megaf |
from him |
14:07 |
w_laenger |
ok, so the green one? |
14:08 |
Megaf |
Linking CXX executable ../bin/minetestserver |
14:08 |
Megaf |
[100%] Built target minetestserver |
14:08 |
Megaf |
real 76m9.439s |
14:08 |
Megaf |
Yay! new build compiled |
14:08 |
w_laenger |
http://wiki.minetest.net/images/2/27/Dyes.png are these default dyes? |
14:09 |
Megaf |
w_laenger: nope |
14:09 |
Megaf |
they are from mods |
14:09 |
Megaf |
the default one is much more limited |
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Megaf |
w_laenger: maybe thats from unified_dyes or something like that |
14:10 |
w_laenger |
"This table shows all of the possible recipes." Actually not every texture differs from the next one |
14:11 |
w_laenger |
http://wiki.minetest.net/images/d/d1/Connected_chest.png Is there more than 1 mod which adds big chests? |
14:12 |
Megaf |
why would you want big chests? |
14:12 |
Megaf |
we have refrigerators! |
14:12 |
w_laenger |
in homedecor... |
14:13 |
w_laenger |
and I don't like these 3d signs because they are rotated wrong after installing them I think |
14:13 |
Megaf |
w_laenger: those are the dyes we have https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/tree/master/mods/dye/textures |
14:14 |
w_laenger |
Megaf, I know |
14:17 |
w_laenger |
"net noise" with a mistake: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/eqpGLzatKvB5.png |
14:21 |
w_laenger |
cnd.mediacru.sh doesn't like me... |
14:22 |
w_laenger |
and without: http://i.imgur.com/SS5L9nE.png |
14:22 |
w_laenger |
do you need this? |
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Tesseract |
Eater4: LuaBot yes, but HLuaBot is a testing and developing bot. |
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Krock |
w_laenger, link of connected_chests mod' |
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14:27 |
Krock |
*? |
14:29 |
w_laenger |
this one? https://github.com/HybridDog/connected_chests |
14:29 |
Krock |
that one. |
14:30 |
w_laenger |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2558 google found another one |
14:31 |
w_laenger |
and this one https://github.com/PilzAdam/MiniTest/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua |
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LemonLake |
Hey Krock |
14:32 |
LemonLake |
Was your server having a lagspike at 12pm your time today? |
14:32 |
Krock |
Hey LemonLake |
14:32 |
Krock |
12pm? at that time it was down since 1.5 hours and smehow none joine 3 hours before |
14:33 |
Krock |
agh typos |
14:33 |
LemonLake |
Hm |
14:33 |
LemonLake |
Well I was on |
14:33 |
LemonLake |
I was testing out android multiplayer, but it was really laggy |
14:33 |
Krock |
k |
14:34 |
Krock |
w_laenger, ?id=2558 is a single-node larger chest |
14:34 |
w_laenger |
http://i.imgur.com/SS5L9nE.png this may be used for tunnels |
14:34 |
LemonLake |
that's pretty cool |
14:34 |
Krock |
is that a tree generation thingie? |
14:34 |
w_laenger |
Krock, ok, I haven't tested it |
14:35 |
w_laenger |
it's not made with the L-system |
14:35 |
Krock |
w_laenger, but I did now. It makes the chestinventory larger by ~4 rows |
14:35 |
Krock |
not? |
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w_laenger |
https://github.com/HybridDog/miscellaneous/blob/master/txt/luas/net_noise.lua |
14:35 |
Krock |
uh.. I could add such tunnels with a perlin noise in my mapgen |
14:36 |
w_laenger |
it's not a perlin noise |
14:36 |
Krock |
perlin noise would look a bit more natural |
14:37 |
w_laenger |
tunnels shouldn't look natural, I think |
14:37 |
Krock |
hmm |
14:37 |
LemonLake |
they should have multiple stages |
14:37 |
LemonLake |
cave-based, straight along with square turns and net-based |
14:38 |
w_laenger |
maybe use the code of the maze mod for it too |
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LemonLake |
yeah |
14:38 |
w_laenger |
made by Echo |
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Piggybear87 |
I get more than 1000 of lines that look exactly like this with different numbers at the end. |
14:53 |
Piggybear87 |
10:41:48: ERROR[main]: FileCache: Can't write to file at /home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d/bin/../cache/media/5ca3f9cb83221312d69b13eb45145e46b754a786 |
14:54 |
Krock |
Piggybear87, missing privileges? |
14:54 |
Piggybear87 |
That means my 20 minute wait to get on Landrush was for nothing. I'm going to have to wait that long from now on... |
14:54 |
Krock |
20 minutes? uh |
14:54 |
Piggybear87 |
Krock, no. I'm superuser. |
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Piggybear87 |
Yes, because Minetest is broke after the newest git. |
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14:55 |
Krock |
LemonLake, server downtime at Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday |
14:56 |
Piggybear87 |
OldCoder, updated to the latest git 2 days ago and I havn't been able to connect because I gave up after 10 minutes. |
14:56 |
Krock |
I'd give up after 3mins |
14:56 |
jp__ |
Hello. When you did a mistake (misplacing or something) with WorldEdit, there is a command which cancel an action (like "/rollback") ? |
14:56 |
Krock |
Hello and no |
14:56 |
jp__ |
Ok, thanks. |
14:56 |
Krock |
shit happens - use backups |
14:57 |
jp__ |
I will request to sfan5 to add that... |
14:57 |
Piggybear87 |
I know, I usually do also, but they insisted that I give it time, so I did, Now that I cannot write to the cache, I have to wait that long every time. |
14:57 |
* PenguinDad |
doesn't like OOP |
14:57 |
w_laenger |
there's already a request |
14:57 |
jp__ |
Ah ! |
14:57 |
Krock |
Piggybear87, run it as administarator :P |
14:58 |
Piggybear87 |
I am superuser. As soon as I launch Terminal, I -su. |
14:58 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, not following; didn't you indicate you could connect last night? |
14:59 |
Krock |
-su virus |
14:59 |
OldCoder |
And it appears that 5 to 10 minutes is a minimum for connect the first time |
14:59 |
w_laenger |
su rm -r / |
14:59 |
Piggybear87 |
I connected to minerealms, not Landrush. |
14:59 |
OldCoder |
The only solution I can see is to bundle cache with client |
14:59 |
Krock |
(first time!) |
14:59 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, 10 minutes should get you into Landrush |
14:59 |
OldCoder |
BTW congrats on the successful build last night |
15:00 |
Piggybear87 |
I got in after 20 minutes of waiting and now theres no cache, so I have to do it every time I want to connect. |
15:00 |
OldCoder |
There should be a cache |
15:00 |
PenguinDad |
w_laenger: it's su -c "rm --no-preserve-root -r /" |
15:00 |
Piggybear87 |
10:41:48: ERROR[main]: FileCache: Can't write to file at /home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d/bin/../cache/media/5ca3f9cb83221312d69b13eb45145e46b754a786 |
15:00 |
sfan5 |
Megaf_: only the 64bit build supports directx |
15:00 |
Piggybear87 |
I got more that 1000 of these. |
15:00 |
sfan5 |
and only the newer ones |
15:00 |
Piggybear87 |
Brb. |
15:01 |
OldCoder |
Interesting; create a cache folder. Does it work then? |
15:01 |
w_laenger |
PenguinDad, ok, you've got more experience with this |
15:01 |
OldCoder |
mkdir cache in the same directory where you did make |
15:01 |
OldCoder |
Folks, I need to take my car for service. If he returns, will people try to help him set up the cache without more talk of rm -r / ? |
15:02 |
Krock |
rm *.* |
15:02 |
OldCoder |
That is for DOS and Windows |
15:02 |
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15:02 |
OldCoder |
What he needs is mkdir cache |
15:02 |
Krock |
ik |
15:02 |
OldCoder |
asl, moin |
15:02 |
OldCoder |
rm -fr Krock |
15:02 |
OldCoder |
Krock, be useful |
15:02 |
Krock |
fr? |
15:02 |
asl |
hi |
15:02 |
OldCoder |
Standard switches |
15:02 |
OldCoder |
asl, let me know how things go |
15:02 |
OldCoder |
I am away for car service but I did work a lot on all of this yesterday |
15:03 |
Piggybear87 |
OldCoder, There IS a cache folder. |
15:03 |
OldCoder |
And it's empty? |
15:03 |
OldCoder |
cd into the folder |
15:03 |
OldCoder |
and do pwd |
15:03 |
OldCoder |
Indicate the output |
15:03 |
asl |
piggybear: still unable to connect? |
15:03 |
sfan5 |
it's client/cache btw |
15:03 |
Krock |
Command rm not found |
15:03 |
Krock |
lol |
15:03 |
sfan5 |
uh no |
15:03 |
OldCoder |
sfan5, note his error message |
15:03 |
OldCoder |
/home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d/bin/../cache/media/5ca3f9cb83221312d69b13eb45145e46b754a786 |
15:03 |
sfan5 |
it's just cache |
15:03 |
OldCoder |
Indeed |
15:03 |
w_laenger |
rm -fr Krock; mv OldCoder Krock |
15:03 |
* sfan5 |
flips w_laenger |
15:04 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, I g2g. Please do the pwd. |
15:04 |
OldCoder |
w_laenger, moin |
15:04 |
w_laenger |
hi |
15:04 |
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15:04 |
OldCoder |
I do not wish to become Krock w_laenger |
15:04 |
OldCoder |
The mv command does not quite fit |
15:04 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, we will help if possible. Are you still here? |
15:04 |
w_laenger |
ok |
15:04 |
Krock |
Der Befehl "mv" ist entweder falsch geschrieben oder konnte nicht gefunden werden. |
15:05 |
Piggybear87 |
I'm getting what you asked for. |
15:05 |
OldCoder |
Krock, aim for more on-topic, please |
15:05 |
Krock |
I'm on-topic |
15:05 |
w_laenger |
mv: Fehlendes Dateioperand |
15:05 |
w_laenger |
„mv --help“ gibt weitere Informationen. |
15:05 |
Krock |
^ |
15:05 |
Krock |
ontopic too |
15:05 |
OldCoder |
Krock, we had a difficult time here two years ago. To be clear, we aren't going back to those days. |
15:05 |
OldCoder |
I will illustrate with a brief ban if necessary. |
15:05 |
Piggybear87 |
Nothing happens OldCoder. |
15:06 |
OldCoder |
pwd prints what? |
15:06 |
Piggybear87 |
Nothing, it just goes to a new line. |
15:06 |
Krock |
OldCoder, what do you mean by "two years ago"? I wasn't here these times...sooo |
15:06 |
OldCoder |
I think you're dealing with a deleted directory |
15:06 |
OldCoder |
pwd prints... nothing? |
15:06 |
asl |
wouldn't it be ls instead of pwd? |
15:06 |
OldCoder |
Krock, exactrly |
15:06 |
OldCoder |
No; pwd |
15:06 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, cd && pwd |
15:06 |
OldCoder |
What does that print? |
15:06 |
OldCoder |
* exactly |
15:07 |
Krock |
eh |
15:07 |
Piggybear87 |
It is ls... |
15:07 |
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15:07 |
w_laenger |
i=1; while true; do; sudo kill $i; i=(($i+1)); done |
15:07 |
OldCoder |
Krock, the world involves a balance between chaos and order. Too much of either is undesirable. Keep this in mind. |
15:07 |
Piggybear87 |
This is what I get for pwd /home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d/cache/media |
15:08 |
asl |
oh, pwd return current dir? |
15:08 |
OldCoder |
asl, prints it; not returns it |
15:08 |
OldCoder |
Now... |
15:08 |
Krock |
OldCoder, yeah I know that |
15:08 |
OldCoder |
You have lots of error messages of the sort indicated above, Piggybear87 ? |
15:08 |
w_laenger |
pwd returns it? |
15:08 |
Piggybear87 |
Yes. |
15:08 |
OldCoder |
/home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d/bin/../cache/media/5ca3f9cb83221312d69b13eb45145e46b754a786 |
15:08 |
OldCoder |
Is the cache/media subfolder empty? |
15:09 |
Piggybear87 |
No, definatly not. |
15:09 |
OldCoder |
But you have 1000s of errors |
15:09 |
OldCoder |
Do this |
15:09 |
OldCoder |
df -k . |
15:09 |
w_laenger |
If I use print(os.execute("pwd")) it returns true |
15:09 |
OldCoder |
What does it print? |
15:09 |
OldCoder |
w_laenger, this is because pwd returns 0 or 1 |
15:09 |
w_laenger |
ok |
15:09 |
OldCoder |
at the exit status level |
15:10 |
w_laenger |
can I somehow get the printed text with lua? |
15:10 |
OldCoder |
Return value is separate from printed output |
15:10 |
Piggybear87 |
OldCoder, pm |
15:10 |
OldCoder |
Yes; at least you can with most languages |
15:10 |
OldCoder |
Piggybear87, kk |
15:10 |
OldCoder |
w_laenger, I'm late for car service but can comment more later |
15:10 |
w_laenger |
how? |
15:10 |
w_laenger |
ok |
15:13 |
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15:18 |
Megaf_ |
This would be a very good board to run minetest server http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157513 |
15:23 |
sfan5 |
yes it probably would |
15:24 |
Eater4 |
Megaf_: did you look at a raspberry pi? |
15:24 |
sfan5 |
I saw exactly that board on a different site one week ago |
15:24 |
kaeza |
w_laenger, local pwd = assert(os.popen("pwd")):read("*a") |
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15:25 |
w_laenger |
thanks |
15:27 |
w_laenger |
os.popen is a nil value |
15:28 |
kaeza |
err... it's io.popen |
15:29 |
w_laenger |
print(assert(io.popen("echo i")):read("*a")) so? |
15:30 |
kaeza |
yes |
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15:31 |
w_laenger |
does the terminal mod use this? |
15:32 |
PenguinDad |
w_laenger: the terminal mod uses os.execute IIRC |
15:32 |
w_laenger |
ok |
15:34 |
w_laenger |
what is " > " good for? |
15:37 |
w_laenger |
can I somehow send information to a client on a server with lua? |
15:37 |
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15:38 |
w_laenger |
I think a function to play music could be added to minetest without storing this music into media. |
15:38 |
Jordach |
afternoons |
15:40 |
w_laenger |
̣̣̣ |
15:40 |
w_laenger |
I tried to use � as variable. |
15:41 |
w_laenger |
Do you want to see my newest construction? |
15:41 |
kaeza |
what is that? |
15:43 |
LemonLake |
I feel like making some sort of plant mod or food mod but there are so many |
15:44 |
LemonLake |
At one point I actually thought about making a drugs mod but kids play this game so that wouldn't be good |
15:44 |
PenguinDad |
LemonLake: make fictional food |
15:44 |
LemonLake |
Hmm |
15:44 |
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15:44 |
LemonLake |
What theme? |
15:44 |
TenPlus1 |
Hi folks... |
15:45 |
Piggybear87 |
How do you trash something from the Terminal? |
15:45 |
LemonLake |
rm -f |
15:45 |
PenguinDad |
Piggybear87: rm |
15:46 |
TenPlus1 |
am adding a cobweb node and was wondering if there is a way to slow users down when walking through it ??? |
15:46 |
Piggybear87 |
So "rm -f <file>"? |
15:46 |
LemonLake |
Mhm |
15:46 |
Piggybear87 |
Thanks. |
15:47 |
Piggybear87 |
rm: cannot remove ‘/home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d’: Is a directory |
15:47 |
LemonLake |
rm -rf |
15:47 |
LemonLake |
-r is recursive |
15:47 |
w_laenger |
kaeza, a random unicode letter |
15:47 |
PilzAdam |
sudo rm -rf /* |
15:47 |
Jordach |
.E |
15:47 |
Jordach |
LELELELELELELELEL |
15:48 |
* kaeza |
slaps PilzAdam |
15:48 |
* kaeza |
slaps Jordach too just because |
15:48 |
Piggybear87 |
Got it. Thanks. For some reason I couldn't right-click and trash it... |
15:48 |
* PilzAdam |
gallops away |
15:49 |
* Piggybear87 |
thinks PilzAdam is a brony... |
15:49 |
Jordach |
isn't that Calinou in disguise |
15:49 |
Jordach |
fucking transformers shit right there |
15:49 |
Jordach |
turning that 3v into 12v |
15:49 |
kaeza |
dat language |
15:50 |
PilzAdam |
not sure if brony.... or pony.jpg |
15:50 |
* Piggybear87 |
can't stand ponies.... Except real ones... |
15:51 |
* PenguinDad |
is watching MLP right now |
15:51 |
Piggybear87 |
Grrr... |
15:52 |
* Jordach |
is actually hungry |
15:52 |
TenPlus1 |
which part of the liquid attributes in water_source slows down the user when walking through ??? |
15:52 |
* TenPlus1 |
gives Jordach a Tesco meal with real pony inside |
15:53 |
PilzAdam |
TenPlus1, viscosity |
15:53 |
LemonLake |
How is vegetarian meat made? Please explain, me dum |
15:53 |
* w_laenger |
gives Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=574 |
15:53 |
TenPlus1 |
PilzAdam: I've set liquid_viscosity and groups = {liquid=3) and it wont work |
15:54 |
PilzAdam |
TenPlus1, it only works on liquids |
15:54 |
PilzAdam |
setting the group liquid has no effect |
15:54 |
PilzAdam |
you have to set liquid_type and the other liquid attributes |
15:54 |
TenPlus1 |
I put the liquidtype = "source" and it worked then, but bringing up setnode() errors... |
15:54 |
TenPlus1 |
no other way to slow a user down walking through a node ? |
15:55 |
Piggybear87 |
Why would purge not be found? |
15:55 |
PilzAdam |
thats because you haven't set the liquid_alternetive_flowing field |
15:55 |
Piggybear87 |
I used it yesterday. |
15:55 |
Jordach |
w_laenger, eh? |
15:55 |
w_laenger |
LemonLake, http://www.epinions.com/content_5155496068?sb=1 |
15:56 |
TenPlus1 |
sweet, thanks PilzAdam ... that worked... |
15:56 |
LemonLake |
w_laenger: tldr |
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15:58 |
TenPlus1 |
lol, maybe not... I broke a cobweb and it started flowing all over... hah |
15:58 |
nman3600 |
Krock can i talk to you via Query a second? |
15:59 |
nman3600 |
oh he's not here |
15:59 |
LemonLake |
nman3600: how is your legel |
15:59 |
nman3600 |
LemonLake fine |
16:00 |
Piggybear87 |
purge : command not found. I don't get it... |
16:01 |
w_laenger |
my world has more grass than yours I think https://github.com/HybridDog/grass |
16:04 |
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16:06 |
LemonLake |
What can the koneki debugger do? |
16:08 |
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16:10 |
w_laenger |
am I the only one who uses the ambience mod now? |
16:11 |
Calinou |
you're the only one who actually hears the sounds – everyone else disabled their sound as it was too annoying. ;) |
16:12 |
w_laenger |
ok |
16:12 |
LemonLake |
wtf |
16:12 |
LemonLake |
eclipse looks messed up |
16:15 |
Piggybear87 |
Nevermind, I forgot apt-get... I'm dumd... |
16:15 |
Piggybear87 |
LOL! Dumb* |
16:15 |
Calinou |
in 14.04, you can do “apt†|
16:16 |
TenPlus1 |
w_laenger: I use it on Xanadu server as well, great mod... |
16:16 |
kaeza |
dumd == dum daemon? |
16:16 |
Calinou |
sudo apt update; sudo apt dist-upgrade; sudo apt install minetest; sudo apt remove minetest; apt show Minetest |
16:16 |
Calinou |
no capital at last Minetest, oops |
16:17 |
w_laenger |
TenPlus1, yes, maybe I could increase the performance a bit |
16:17 |
TenPlus1 |
w_laenger: Ambiance mod (server edition) is a lot smaller and skips the music part... |
16:18 |
w_laenger |
yes |
16:18 |
kaeza |
ambience should really be client-side |
16:18 |
kaeza |
:< |
16:18 |
w_laenger |
"I think a function to play music could be added to minetest without storing this music into media." |
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16:18 |
TenPlus1 |
it would be easy enough to add it into Minetest itself.... using all of your own sound packs etc...# |
16:19 |
Piggybear87 |
Why the eff is there still a LOT of things with minetest in the name after I remove, purge, and autoremove? |
16:19 |
kaeza |
w_laenger, afaik, you are able to store sounds into minetest/sounds/ and the server can tell the client to play them |
16:19 |
w_laenger |
how? |
16:19 |
kaeza |
s/you are able/you can/ |
16:20 |
w_laenger |
is this function added yet? |
16:20 |
kaeza |
IIRC yes |
16:20 |
TenPlus1 |
not as yet... the mod checks for certain blocks around it and what time of day it is, then plays the appropriate sound |
16:20 |
kaeza |
you just need the code on the server side, and the sounds installed client-side |
16:21 |
w_laenger |
so I could store the music of the ambience to .minetest/sounds? |
16:21 |
TenPlus1 |
pretty much, yeah... and if ambiance is looking for a specific filename it'll load it from that directory 1st |
16:21 |
kaeza |
yes, and only install the actual code of the mod in the server |
16:22 |
w_laenger |
thanks |
16:22 |
Krock |
<kaeza>w_laenger, afaik, you are able to store sounds.. |
16:22 |
Krock |
Forum missing: Sound Packs |
16:22 |
Krock |
:) |
16:23 |
kaeza |
Krock, 302 xyz |
16:23 |
TenPlus1 |
I still wish Minetest would use .mod extensions also for music... they are a lot smaller than .ogg music files |
16:23 |
Krock |
kaeza, 200 |
16:23 |
kaeza |
:P |
16:23 |
Krock |
^^ |
16:23 |
w_laenger |
and .it and .midi |
16:23 |
Krock |
.rmi |
16:24 |
Piggybear87 |
Is there a special order to add the cmake options, or can I just add them when I find ones I want? |
16:24 |
w_laenger |
with the connected glass clean glass looks much cleaner |
16:24 |
Krock |
hmm..there's dirty glass missing |
16:25 |
TenPlus1 |
w_laenger: which mod ? am using framedglass for connected coloured glass |
16:25 |
Krock |
Piggybear87, settings are settings. order is irrelevant |
16:25 |
Piggybear87 |
10-4 |
16:25 |
Krock |
s/order/sort |
16:25 |
kaeza |
you got it right the first time |
16:25 |
w_laenger |
the connected_textures mod |
16:26 |
TenPlus1 |
hrm, gotta check that one out... sounds interesting |
16:26 |
Vazon |
Piggybear87 if you join now i can grant you your privs |
16:26 |
kaeza |
join now! only 4.99! |
16:26 |
* kaeza |
runs |
16:26 |
Piggybear87 |
Do I put a comma or anything to seperate the options? Ir just a space? |
16:26 |
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16:26 |
Piggybear87 |
Vazon, I'm making a new client atm. |
16:27 |
kaeza |
aaaanyway, I'm running out of energy |
16:27 |
kaeza |
off to bed --> |
16:27 |
Krock |
hmm not sure if I could run the minetest + -server on one PC without risking a server crash |
16:27 |
Jordach |
Jordach.cooking_skill = Jordach.cooking_skill + 1 |
16:27 |
* asl |
like .midi :D |
16:27 |
Krock |
+s |
16:27 |
kaeza |
+1 |
16:27 |
Krock |
Jordach, made some pancakes? |
16:27 |
TenPlus1 |
lol |
16:28 |
Krock |
Jordach.cooking_skill = 9000 |
16:28 |
Jordach |
Krock, made a lovely Chicken Korma with Pilau rice |
16:28 |
Krock |
Jordach, ooh YUMMY |
16:28 |
Krock |
Jordach.cooking_skill += 1 |
16:28 |
Piggybear87 |
Anyone? I know you all know... Lol. |
16:29 |
Krock |
Piggybear87, what do I know? |
16:29 |
Piggybear87 |
How do I space cmake options? Just a space, a comma, a slash? |
16:29 |
Krock |
hmm I used \n when I tried to compile them |
16:29 |
TenPlus1 |
bye folks... |
16:29 |
Krock |
bye 10+1 |
16:30 |
PilzAdam |
print(Jordach.cooking_skill) |
16:30 |
MinetestBot |
-12 |
16:30 |
Krock |
9001 |
16:30 |
Krock |
lol |
16:30 |
w_laenger |
just a |
16:30 |
w_laenger |
but I don't know exatly |
16:31 |
Vazon |
ok Piggybear |
16:31 |
Krock |
print(4096 - PilzAdam.forum_posts) |
16:31 |
MinetestBot |
no |
16:32 |
Krock |
y no? |
16:32 |
w_laenger |
when I'm sleeping my dreams about minetest are weird |
16:32 |
Krock |
print(y no) |
16:33 |
Krock |
w_laenger, I know those nightmares when ponies destroy the voxel based twin towers |
16:33 |
w_laenger |
no, the pony didn't join the game |
16:34 |
Krock |
did it time out? or was it conneciton reset by peer? |
16:34 |
* Piggybear87 |
wishies there was a way to self compile with his options, and still be able to use software updater to update Minetest. |
16:34 |
w_laenger |
imagine you're building on your singleplayer world and suddenly someone joins the game |
16:34 |
Krock |
Piggybear87, I'd like to compile too :( |
16:35 |
w_laenger |
and this person starts grieving |
16:35 |
Piggybear87 |
Why don't you? |
16:35 |
Krock |
Piggybear87, ask that the 1337 errors |
16:35 |
Krock |
w_laenger, uh not nice. must be a very bad nightmare |
16:35 |
Piggybear87 |
Did you follow the readme? |
16:36 |
Krock |
Piggybear87, readme? |
16:36 |
Piggybear87 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest all the way at the bottom. |
16:36 |
w_laenger |
yes, there were a lot of people joining that I wasn't longer able to kick them |
16:36 |
Krock |
./ctcp Krock version |
16:37 |
w_laenger |
and they used the rocked launcher, which doesn't use minetest.is_protected yet, to destroy my buildings |
16:37 |
w_laenger |
bye |
16:38 |
Krock |
Piggybear87, followed such a guide like 1000000000 times. (okay a bit too high number - just showing up, it was many times) |
16:38 |
Krock |
gonna try it the 1000000001 time in 4 days |
16:39 |
Piggybear87 |
I have no problems with that readme. |
16:39 |
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16:40 |
Krock |
Piggybear87, Linux 3.13.0-29-generic, that's your antiproblem |
16:41 |
Piggybear87 |
It doesn't have an OS for you. |
16:41 |
Piggybear87 |
What does the option USE_GPROF do? |
16:42 |
Krock |
WINNT32 5.1 && 6 |
16:42 |
Krock |
Enable profiling using GProf |
16:42 |
Krock |
^ Piggybear87 |
16:42 |
Piggybear87 |
What does that do? |
16:42 |
Krock |
no idea :3 |
16:42 |
Krock |
maybe some debug things |
16:42 |
asl |
that's a profiler setting iirc |
16:42 |
Krock |
omg srsly |
16:42 |
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16:43 |
Krock |
Ih Ydrawnebur |
16:43 |
Piggybear87 |
asl, What does it do? Lol. |
16:43 |
asl |
it should be off if you don't use it |
16:43 |
asl |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiling_(computer_programming) |
16:43 |
Krock |
diagnostics |
16:44 |
Piggybear87 |
OK, don't need it. |
16:44 |
Piggybear87 |
asl, You self compile, correct? |
16:44 |
asl |
yup |
16:44 |
asl |
i just `cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DENABLE_CURL=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_GLES=1 -DENABLE_SOUND=1 -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0` then `make` then `su` then finally `make install` |
16:44 |
Krock |
linux user ^ |
16:44 |
rubenwardy |
I hate how you can not jump and place blocks below you |
16:45 |
rubenwardy |
and, Hi All! |
16:45 |
Krock |
<Krock>Ih Ydrawnebur |
16:45 |
asl |
lol, reverse |
16:46 |
Krock |
omg that speed |
16:46 |
asl |
i used to reading in reverse, it isn't that hard tbh |
16:47 |
Krock |
Woh Emoc? |
16:48 |
Piggybear87 |
Does this look OK? |
16:48 |
Piggybear87 |
cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 DENABLE_CURL=1 DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 DENABLE_SOUND=1 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release DBUILD_CLIENT=1 DBUILD_SERVER=1 |
16:48 |
PilzAdam |
Piggybear87, you are missing some - there |
16:48 |
Piggybear87 |
I see that now. Lol. |
16:48 |
Piggybear87 |
But other than that? |
16:48 |
Krock |
Piggybear87, sound is useless on server |
16:48 |
Krock |
wait |
16:48 |
Piggybear87 |
But I'm making a client also. |
16:48 |
Krock |
client too |
16:48 |
Krock |
nvm |
16:49 |
PilzAdam |
Krock, sound is not useless on client |
16:49 |
Krock |
PilzAdam, I haven't read it all - saw it just now |
16:49 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
16:49 |
PilzAdam |
I'm still making fun of you for not being able to read |
16:49 |
Krock |
read...what? |
16:50 |
asl |
you don't need to type the last two, the build client/server |
16:50 |
Piggybear87 |
other than the - is everything correct? I've never done this with options. |
16:50 |
Piggybear87 |
OK. |
16:50 |
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16:50 |
Krock |
on forums, everything which has more than 20 lines to read is counted as TL;DR |
16:50 |
Krock |
^ general speedup reading forums |
16:51 |
PilzAdam |
Piggybear87, the last 4 options you have there are the default values |
16:51 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Krock |
16:51 |
* Krock |
meows at sfan5 |
16:51 |
Piggybear87 |
leveldb isn't default. |
16:51 |
Krock |
eh |
16:52 |
Krock |
counting plz |
16:52 |
PilzAdam |
^ |
16:53 |
Piggybear87 |
Last 4 are freetype, leveldb, sound, and built type. |
16:53 |
Krock |
We're talking about your message you sent here |
16:53 |
Krock |
<Piggybear87> cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 DENABLE_CURL=1 DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 DENABLE_SOUND=1 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release DBUILD_CLIENT=1 DBUILD_SERVER=1 |
16:53 |
asl |
lol |
16:54 |
Piggybear87 |
Oh. I forgot I didn't copy/paste the updated one. |
16:54 |
Krock |
^ |
16:54 |
Piggybear87 |
Whelp, hitting enter. Let's see what happens... |
16:55 |
PilzAdam |
a CMakeCache.txt gets generated |
16:55 |
Piggybear87 |
Now the wait... |
16:55 |
PilzAdam |
you can change all the options inside that too |
16:55 |
Piggybear87 |
Oh. Didn't know that. |
16:55 |
* Krock |
points at http*://*paste*.* for messages.Split('n').Length > 4 |
16:56 |
PilzAdam |
Krock, why not http?:// |
16:56 |
Krock |
PilzAdam, cuz not real regex |
16:57 |
Krock |
confict with http*://google.*/?search=* |
16:57 |
Krock |
^ PilzAdam |
16:58 |
Krock |
s/?search/search?q= |
16:58 |
Krock |
such code |
16:58 |
PilzAdam |
https://ixquick.com/do/search?query= is easier |
16:59 |
PilzAdam |
also you should always use https if available |
16:59 |
* Krock |
slaps PilzAdam with duckduckgo |
16:59 |
Krock |
not all https are really secure |
16:59 |
* Krock |
points at bleadbeed (ignore typos) |
16:59 |
* PilzAdam |
slaps Krock with http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/ |
17:00 |
* Krock |
slaps PilzAdam with Der Server unter www.3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion konnte nicht gefunden werden. |
17:00 |
* PilzAdam |
slaps Krock with The Onion Router |
17:00 |
Piggybear87 |
All this violence! |
17:00 |
* Krock |
slaps PilzAdam with classic modem/router connection |
17:01 |
* PilzAdam |
??? |
17:01 |
* Krock |
?! |
17:01 |
Piggybear87 |
The slapping. |
17:01 |
PilzAdam |
https://ixquick.com/do/search?query=The+Onion+Router |
17:01 |
* Krock |
slaps Piggybear87 for not slapping |
17:01 |
* asl |
slaps Krock with next.duckduckgo |
17:02 |
* Krock |
slaps PilzAdam with ,04TL;DR |
17:02 |
Piggybear87 |
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/attachments/first-steps/147678d1350597443-official-question-slap-goptions-thread-slap.jpg |
17:02 |
khonkhortisan |
cool special character highlighting |
17:02 |
khonkhortisan |
Only some operating systems use TL;DR as a line ending. Most use just TL or DR. |
17:02 |
* Krock |
slaps ,13khonkhortisan |
17:02 |
khonkhortisan |
aah, purple! |
17:03 |
* Krock |
gives khonkhortisan nr |
17:04 |
khonkhortisan |
LF+CR (Acorn BBC and RISC OS) appears to be dead. |
17:05 |
* Krock |
gives khonkhortisan a MS-DOS 7.11 floppy |
17:07 |
Piggybear87 |
I think I did something wrong. It's compiling faster than normal.. |
17:07 |
asl |
lol, why is that something wrong? |
17:07 |
khonkhortisan |
Maybe you changed one of the last files to compile, instead of one of the first |
17:08 |
Piggybear87 |
Like maybe I forgot something. |
17:08 |
asl |
did you make clean before make? |
17:08 |
Piggybear87 |
Huh? |
17:08 |
khonkhortisan |
It's wrong because you can't do this http://xkcd.com/303/ |
17:08 |
Krock |
Piggybear87, don't worry. be happy |
17:08 |
Krock |
+1 |
17:09 |
Piggybear87 |
khonkhortisan, Lmfao. |
17:09 |
asl |
`make clean` clear the files from the last time you build |
17:10 |
Piggybear87 |
Did not know I had to do that. |
17:10 |
asl |
if you didn't clean, it will reuse the old/outdated files from the last build |
17:10 |
Piggybear87 |
So I just eff up my build? |
17:10 |
khonkhortisan |
Sometimes an update will break something that requires a make clean to fix |
17:10 |
asl |
maybe |
17:11 |
* khonkhortisan |
waves his hands at asl |
17:11 |
Piggybear87 |
If it did, I'm gonna use Windows laatest on Wine. I give up compiling... |
17:11 |
Piggybear87 |
Latest* |
17:11 |
asl |
just make clean then make again lol |
17:11 |
Krock |
this lol too http://xkcd.com/737/ |
17:12 |
khonkhortisan |
eew |
17:13 |
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17:13 |
Calinou |
it's take-sounds-from-OpenArena-for-use-in-Carbone time! |
17:13 |
* Calinou |
opens archive manager |
17:14 |
Krock |
http://xkcd.com/94/ |
17:14 |
PilzAdam |
Krock, thanks for playing the random button on xkcd for us |
17:14 |
Krock |
PilzAdam, np. |
17:15 |
khonkhortisan |
oh THAT random button |
17:15 |
Piggybear87 |
Gotta run for a bit. Bye. |
17:15 |
khonkhortisan |
Be careful with that, there're some bad ones in there. |
17:19 |
Krock |
Krock.Web("xkcd.com").Random() -> http://xkcd.com/945/ |
17:22 |
Megaf_ |
Hi LazyJ, any idea o how to change default LevelDB options? |
17:22 |
Megaf_ |
on how* |
17:24 |
Krock |
wow: http://xkcd.com/681_large/ |
17:25 |
Tesseract |
require'socket.http'.request('http://xkcd.com/'..math.random(1, 1337)) |
17:25 |
LazyJ |
Megaf_, sorrr, I don't have a clue. |
17:25 |
Tesseract |
^ That should fetch a random xkcd article. |
17:25 |
Megaf_ |
LazyJ: heh, me neither |
17:25 |
Tesseract |
<3 Lua(Socket) |
17:25 |
Calinou |
heh, ShadowNinja using the name Tesseract again |
17:26 |
Krock |
*/#@+# Lua(Socket) |
17:26 |
* Tesseract |
stabs Krock |
17:26 |
* Krock |
gives R |
17:26 |
Krock |
eh |
17:26 |
Krock |
enter came too early |
17:27 |
LazyJ |
Time to reboot. |
17:32 |
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17:37 |
LemonLake |
to much protocol |
17:43 |
Calinou |
999 rats, 35-40 FPS with good settings: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/WYhmYyfyxOp-.jpg |
17:43 |
Calinou |
(-: |
17:44 |
Krock |
<3 http://xkcd.com/627/ |
17:44 |
Krock |
Calinou, lucky you. I could dream of having _not_ a system freeze |
17:45 |
Krock |
but eww, they're dirty |
17:46 |
rubenwardy |
!title https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/5504537 |
17:46 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Craft recipe checker for Minetest |
17:47 |
Megaf_ |
I'm wondering, would it me too hard to make the players head follow mouse input? |
17:48 |
rubenwardy |
See forum topics |
17:49 |
rubenwardy |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edzDAH6-WQU |
17:49 |
Calinou |
Megaf_, you mean, visible pitch in third person? |
17:49 |
Calinou |
players would need to send their pitch: fairly large C++ change |
17:49 |
Calinou |
Krock, successfully ran clearobjects in 1-2 miniutes |
17:49 |
Calinou |
minutes* |
17:49 |
Megaf_ |
Calinou: I mean, head will move according to where the player is looking |
17:49 |
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17:49 |
Calinou |
game uses 400MB of RAM |
17:49 |
Calinou |
Megaf_, vertically? then see what I said… |
17:50 |
Calinou |
horizontally? why? |
17:50 |
Megaf_ |
both, like in MC :) |
17:50 |
Tesseract |
Megaf_: kaeza did that with a mod. But it used loads of network and was jumpy becuase Irrlicht was missing a needed feature. |
17:51 |
Megaf_ |
hm |
17:52 |
Calinou |
Megaf_, horizontal would be very complicated, you would likely need to separate head and body models |
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17:54 |
Tesseract |
Megaf_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edzDAH6-WQU |
17:54 |
Krock |
Calinou, 1.5 mins for 1000 objects? that's slow when you've got 40FPS |
17:54 |
Tesseract |
The previous tries are very funny. ;-) |
17:55 |
Calinou |
Krock, I didn't measure exact time |
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17:58 |
Calinou |
found a way to make 3D torches that work well |
17:59 |
asie |
woo! |
17:59 |
Krock |
asie, need an adventure? do it like those guys: http://xkcd.com/461/ |
17:59 |
Mikerhinos |
hi |
18:00 |
asie |
Krock: nah |
18:00 |
asie |
making gnupod work with my music collection was enough of an adventure |
18:00 |
Calinou |
hi asie |
18:01 |
asie |
hi Calinou |
18:02 |
Mikerhinos |
spent a week on Rust, now back on MT, because I'm tired of bugs and immature players :) |
18:03 |
Megaf_ |
Tesseract: that kinda works |
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18:03 |
Calinou |
Mikerhinos, try latest Carbone :D |
18:03 |
Calinou |
hi john_minetest |
18:03 |
Calinou |
tons of new stuff |
18:04 |
Calinou |
(and I'm doing cosmetic changes right now) |
18:06 |
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18:09 |
PilzAdam |
D: imgs.xkcd.com is down |
18:11 |
PilzAdam |
*was |
18:14 |
PenguinDad |
http://xkcd.com/1056/ lol |
18:14 |
* Jordach |
wonders why they don't make double bladed windmills |
18:15 |
Jordach |
that have the normal Y shape at front, and an upside down Y at the back |
18:15 |
Jordach |
making a total of six blades for less space |
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18:31 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, i didn't mean a pole a mill |
18:31 |
Jordach |
i meant literally one behind the first |
18:31 |
Jordach |
normal windmill with a longer nose |
18:32 |
Vazon |
!up oldcoder.org 30012 |
18:32 |
MinetestBot |
oldcoder.org:30012 seems to be down |
18:38 |
Krock |
A must-have-seen: http://what-if.xkcd.com/55/ |
18:40 |
Calinou |
finally got 3D torches one |
18:41 |
Calinou |
wasn't easy ;) |
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18:49 |
Krock |
"1.875 terawatts is like a house-sized stack of TNT going off every second." - xkcd |
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18:58 |
PenguinDad |
https://soundcloud.com/glitchhop/k-theory-things-i-like-to-do-tut-tut-child-remix-edmcom-premiere <3 |
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19:05 |
Piggybear87 |
Back. |
19:06 |
Piggybear87 |
Is there any way to speed up mapgen (without buying a new machine)? |
19:06 |
WindHero |
hmm |
19:07 |
Piggybear87 |
I thought LevelDB would help, but it's about the same speed. |
19:07 |
WindHero |
reduce other calculations going on at the same time |
19:07 |
Piggybear87 |
Like what? |
19:07 |
WindHero |
have nothing else open, and have the graphics settings real low |
19:07 |
WindHero |
like, 2D clouds, non-smooth lighting |
19:08 |
PenguinDad |
Piggybear87: try singlenode mapgen :P |
19:08 |
WindHero |
rofl |
19:08 |
Piggybear87 |
No... Lol. And most of my setting ARE the low ones. |
19:09 |
WindHero |
ouch |
19:09 |
WindHero |
what is your mapgen time? |
19:10 |
Piggybear87 |
I don't know how to tell, I just know I run into unloaded chunk walls constantly. |
19:11 |
WindHero |
what mods are installed? |
19:11 |
WindHero |
ABMs and other modifiers active will all have to finish before mapgen starts loading new chunks |
19:12 |
PenguinDad |
Cool I get Serialization Errors on Krock's Server https://dpaste.de/Q9SM |
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19:12 |
Piggybear87 |
Quite a few, but none are running (they are activated, but I haven't placed anything). |
19:13 |
jp____ |
Hello again. I search a solution to rotate a WorldEdit's position, but it doesn't work with the screwdriver : http://i.imgur.com/ieAY8Gp.jpg |
19:13 |
jp____ |
Anyone can help me plz ? |
19:14 |
Calinou |
hi jp____ :) |
19:14 |
Calinou |
there's //rotate command |
19:14 |
Calinou |
/rotate <axis> <angle>: Rotate the current WorldEdit selection around the <axis> by angle <angle> (90 degree increment) |
19:15 |
jp____ |
"//rotate" is only when pos1 & pos2 are placed... |
19:15 |
jp____ |
(but not sure) |
19:16 |
jp____ |
Yes, I confirm : we have to select a region to use //rotate. |
19:16 |
jp____ |
So : pos1 and pos2 placed. |
19:16 |
Calinou |
place both //pos1 and pos2 |
19:16 |
jp____ |
I only want the pos1 rotated. |
19:17 |
jp____ |
It will more easier... |
19:17 |
PenguinDad |
//rotate doesn't do facedir rotations IIRC |
19:17 |
jp____ |
I can't so ? |
19:18 |
Calinou |
you need to specify what you rotate: that's why you need 2 points and not just one |
19:18 |
WindHero |
...minetest.rotate()? |
19:19 |
jp____ |
I have to import a big structure and pay attention to roads/buildings... not easy with two positions. |
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19:43 |
RealNero |
Ello |
19:44 |
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19:44 |
RealNero |
Fine ignore me, gosh |
19:44 |
* nman3600 |
has returned |
19:44 |
RealNero |
wb |
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19:49 |
Sokomine |
schematics can be rotated as well. that's very helpful |
19:50 |
Sokomine |
btw...regarding the question about village names i posted...which names do village names follow in your respective countries? |
19:50 |
Sokomine |
(that is, if you happen to have villages) |
19:50 |
nman3600 |
Sokomine Hi didn't realize you were not idle :-) |
19:52 |
Sokomine |
i was building. when i do so, i seldom manage to read the chat in time. so hi over here :-) |
19:52 |
jp____ |
You build where, Sokomine ? |
19:53 |
nman3600 |
Who wants to hear my new forum signature? |
19:55 |
Calinou |
hear? |
19:55 |
Sokomine |
jp: it's a building in progress on krocks server. the server is down in the evening/at night, so it's a slow process. i love the darkage sandstonebrick texture it has |
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19:56 |
nman3600 |
Calinou: Well who wants to know my new forum signature |
19:56 |
nman3600 |
either check my forum user or ask me and i'll say here |
19:58 |
Sokomine |
any snowy regions available? it's still so hot here :-( |
19:58 |
nman3600 |
Sokomine go to the north pole |
19:58 |
nman3600 |
My new forum signature is: It's really rude to talk while i'm interrupting |
19:58 |
jp____ |
Ok, I will take a look soon ;) |
19:59 |
Sokomine |
and if your interruption is interrupted? :) |
19:59 |
Calinou |
making items sink slowly in water :D |
19:59 |
nman3600 |
i'd say It's really rude to interrupt while i'm interrupting |
20:00 |
jp____ |
Stop ganja. |
20:01 |
Firebat |
Does this cool project risk being lawsuited by Mojang? |
20:01 |
sfan5 |
Firebat: why would it? |
20:01 |
nman3600 |
sfan5: meow |
20:01 |
Firebat |
I don't know, I read about it on a forum and someone replied it could happen. |
20:02 |
nman3600 |
Firebat: It bloody better not be. |
20:02 |
Firebat |
I hope so. :) |
20:02 |
nman3600 |
Minetest is the closest to minecraft I can get. |
20:03 |
PilzAdam |
Firebat, yes, they can sue us for using blocks |
20:03 |
PilzAdam |
Mojang has a patent on blocks |
20:03 |
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20:03 |
nman3600 |
PilzAdam That's the stupidest thing to sue someone for lol |
20:03 |
sfan5 |
<PilzAdam> Mojang has a patent on blocks |
20:03 |
sfan5 |
:D |
20:04 |
* Sokomine |
throws a free irony-detector at nman :-) |
20:05 |
nman3600 |
If anyone has a suggestion for my pretty much dead mod "multitest" (no one cares about it) Join #multitest or put it in the comment bit on my mod (I am trying not to advertise but I really don't want multitest to die because i've gave up on all my other mods) |
20:06 |
nman3600 |
Woo, That took a while to type! |
20:07 |
Sokomine |
what does multitest do again? |
20:08 |
Calinou |
item sinking speed is exactly the same as player sinking speed, in water :D |
20:08 |
nman3600 |
Sokomine: At the moment it adds shears and decoration blocks a bit like in Darkage. |
20:12 |
jp____ |
Question about WE : when you 9 nodes aligned, how do to copy these 9 nodes until 100 nodes on x axis ? Because when I try "//copy x 100", these 9 nodes are copied *only* 100 nodes further on the axis, and not 0 to 100. |
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jp____ |
when you have* |
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nman3600 |
hi i'm back |
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Calinou |
https://mediacru.sh/wXWaBQaeM-jw |
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* nman3600 |
is currently not on his pc |
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Calinou |
hi nman3600 |
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* sfan5 |
meows at nman3600 |
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sfan5 |
Calinou: that block is too big IMO |
20:24 |
Calinou |
I was very close to it |
20:25 |
Calinou |
https://mediacru.sh/LG5tVssz2yVh |
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Calinou |
3D torches ^ |
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Calinou |
uses wallmounted nodebox, 1 texture for top, 1 texture for bottom, 1 texture for sides (for all torches) |
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nore |
jp____, //stack x 100 |
20:30 |
jp____ |
Great :) Thanks alot ! |
20:34 |
Jordach |
hey PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=144307#p144307 |
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Jordach |
Piggybear87, check yer topic |
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Calinou |
found a better way to make items behave in water… they float around :d |
20:39 |
Jordach |
WTF |
20:40 |
Jordach |
why is my keyboard in en_US mode again |
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Jordach |
brb |
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markveidemanis |
Good |time_zone_greeting| everyone! |
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Calinou |
night |
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Jordach |
sometimes when playing either Skyrim or Mirror's Edge, my keyboard switches to the US Layout |
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Jordach |
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Jordach |
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM |
20:54 |
Jordach |
android testing much :P |
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Jordach |
TIL [21:51:06] <shadowzone> Jordach: I got your big freaking dig game today I love it. |
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21:12 |
Vazon |
Minerealms, Landrush and Antomicon servers are now back up. |
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markveidemanis |
s/Atomicon/MarkTwain :P |
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markveidemanis |
Atomicon == old /etc/hostname |
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markveidemanis |
Vazon, Also *Atomicon |
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markveidemanis |
-n |
21:18 |
markveidemanis |
Atom[domain taken so add]icon |
21:18 |
Vazon |
sorry about that :P |
21:18 |
markveidemanis |
;P |
21:18 |
markveidemanis |
OC spelled it wrong to once |
21:18 |
Vazon |
mark are people timing out on your server? |
21:18 |
markveidemanis |
Atomiocon |
21:18 |
markveidemanis |
Actually rather nice name |
21:18 |
markveidemanis |
Atomiocon |
21:20 |
WindHero |
Atomicon is better :P |
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Vazon |
lol |
21:20 |
WindHero |
although I can't help but pronounce it wrong |
21:20 |
Jordach |
Atominomicon |
21:21 |
* Jordach |
runs away |
21:21 |
* WindHero |
runs with him |
21:23 |
markveidemanis |
Say Atom |
21:23 |
markveidemanis |
Now see that thing in the bottom left corner of your desktop Jordach? |
21:23 |
markveidemanis |
It's disgraceful |
21:24 |
markveidemanis |
It's Bill's Icon |
21:24 |
WindHero |
that's why I use Win8: you don't see that icon in the corner :P |
21:25 |
markveidemanis |
You should update to 8.1 and the bastard will be back |
21:26 |
markveidemanis |
FYI DO NOT UPGRADE |
21:26 |
markveidemanis |
That's about it that changed |
21:26 |
WindHero |
I've had the option for a few months |
21:26 |
WindHero |
still haven't |
21:26 |
markveidemanis |
I hate life without windows |
21:26 |
WindHero |
at least Win8 is faster than Win7 |
21:26 |
WindHero |
can't say too much else |
21:26 |
markveidemanis |
It's fucking freezing |
21:27 |
markveidemanis |
Yeah, a lot |
21:27 |
markveidemanis |
Then I come along with linux and laugh |
21:27 |
markveidemanis |
Loudly |
21:27 |
WindHero |
now for a semi-orginal pun on Windows |
21:27 |
markveidemanis |
Well... |
21:27 |
WindHero |
the problem with opening Windows is that you let bugs in |
21:28 |
markveidemanis |
Lol true |
21:28 |
WindHero |
I once read a similar joke that was much better :/ |
21:28 |
markveidemanis |
Me too |
21:28 |
markveidemanis |
Hey remember WIndows Doors? |
21:28 |
markveidemanis |
That game |
21:28 |
markveidemanis |
Had Twatter and Poogle |
21:29 |
markveidemanis |
On newgrounds I think |
21:29 |
WindHero |
nope |
21:29 |
markveidemanis |
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/512482 |
21:30 |
markveidemanis |
This was at least 3 years ago I last played this |
21:30 |
markveidemanis |
About 5 years ago I played tower defence :P |
21:30 |
markveidemanis |
defence? defense? |
21:30 |
markveidemanis |
defence |
21:31 |
* markveidemanis |
waits to be corrected and feels like a spammer ^.^ |
21:31 |
m5 |
That'll stop me wasting so much space |
21:31 |
m5 |
* home/mark/atomicon_game/mods/tweaks/inventory_plus/textures/inventory_plus_home_gui.png :Unknown command |
21:31 |
m5 |
Lol I hate that |
21:32 |
WindHero |
*defense* |
21:32 |
WindHero |
unless you're talking about removing a fence... |
21:32 |
* m5 |
feels bad |
21:33 |
WindHero |
:o |
21:33 |
m5 |
I meant to de-fence |
21:33 |
m5 |
Too many damn things |
21:33 |
m5 |
I mean, you can still jump them |
21:33 |
m5 |
Useless |
21:33 |
WindHero |
totally |
21:33 |
* m5 |
feels like Dr Zoidberg for some reason |
21:34 |
m5 |
I've got 6 hours to live |
21:34 |
m5 |
and 56 mins |
21:34 |
m5 |
I'm guessing ~80% |
21:35 |
m5 |
\me stops spamming |
21:35 |
* m5 |
stops spamming (Lied the last time) |
21:35 |
WindHero |
:P |
21:35 |
WindHero |
has anyone ever made a mod to create large underground caverns? |
21:36 |
m5 |
Yes |
21:36 |
m5 |
Paramat |
21:36 |
m5 |
All his mods |
21:36 |
m5 |
I just said yes instinctively then the answer came to me |
21:36 |
WindHero |
I mean like city-size |
21:36 |
m5 |
Oh god I started again |
21:36 |
m5 |
City size? |
21:36 |
m5 |
I'm sure if you play with the settings |
21:36 |
WindHero |
yeh |
21:36 |
m5 |
That can happen |
21:37 |
m5 |
You want to increase the range of occurences along the Y axis as well as the size of the caves |
21:37 |
WindHero |
I was asking more because I'm considering making a mod for that from scratch |
21:37 |
m5 |
Or good ol worledeit |
21:37 |
m5 |
Ah |
21:37 |
m5 |
No idea |
21:37 |
m5 |
I was going to google something but forgot now |
21:38 |
m5 |
mktk.tk 5004 "* We don't take kindly to your types around here!" |
21:38 |
WindHero |
Google "What was it I was going to google that I forgot?" |
21:38 |
WindHero |
chances are, it'll find that too :P |
21:39 |
m5 |
Lol |
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FlyingPandas_ |
Hello? |
21:39 |
m5 |
No |
21:39 |
m5 |
I thought webchat was banned |
21:39 |
FlyingPandas_ |
? |
21:39 |
WindHero |
no, only on the dev channel |
21:40 |
m5 |
*!*@*/web/freenode* |
21:40 |
m5 |
*!*@gateway/web/freenode* |
21:40 |
WindHero |
you know, if that's the way it gets banned.... |
21:40 |
m5 |
Lol |
21:40 |
WindHero |
people can just use Mibbit xP |
21:40 |
m5 |
*!*@*web* |
21:40 |
m5 |
xP?? |
21:40 |
m5 |
You disgust me |
21:40 |
WindHero |
more likely |
21:41 |
WindHero |
I don't try to :P |
21:41 |
* m5 |
finds closest freenode server |
21:41 |
m5 |
xD |
21:41 |
m5 |
Windows xD |
21:41 |
PilzAdam |
webchat isnt banned on dev channel, just muted |
21:41 |
m5 |
WHy not here? |
21:41 |
WindHero |
oh yeah.... |
21:41 |
m5 |
lol *!*@gateway/* |
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WindHero |
because so many people don't want to download a dedicated client |
21:42 |
WindHero |
but still play Minetest or make mods |
21:42 |
WindHero |
and want help. |
21:42 |
WindHero |
(there's a freaking link on minetest.net that goes to here through freenode) |
21:43 |
m5 |
I don't even know |
21:43 |
m5 |
https://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml |
21:43 |
WindHero |
webchat isn't evil, it's just more likely to attract less... informed people. |
21:43 |
m5 |
Netherlands netherlands |
21:43 |
m5 |
Region: Zuid-Holland [LINEBREAK]City: Delft |
21:43 |
WindHero |
yes, freenode is Netherlands based |
21:44 |
m5 |
Lol which server is closer? |
21:44 |
WindHero |
not relevant |
21:44 |
WindHero |
the distances make little differnce unless they were in different countries |
21:45 |
m5 |
What's the 2 letter code for Netherlands/Germany? |
21:46 |
* m5 |
feels bad |
21:46 |
m5 |
NL |
21:46 |
m5 |
That's orwell.freenode.net |
21:46 |
* m5 |
skips servers |
21:48 |
WindHero |
.de |
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WindHero |
mark: .de |
21:48 |
WindHero |
for Germany |
21:48 |
markveidemanis |
Back |
21:48 |
m5 |
Me on orwell now |
21:49 |
m5 |
Where is chanserv? |
21:49 |
WindHero |
present |
21:49 |
m5 |
lol |
21:49 |
m5 |
*serv is erronenous |
21:50 |
WindHero |
http://www.freesound.org/people/-Hero_of_the_Winds-/ |
21:50 |
m5 |
Don't you think ircd-seven is pretty bad? |
21:50 |
WindHero |
^My humble little collection |
21:50 |
m5 |
That is sound |
21:50 |
m5 |
If that scares me |
21:50 |
m5 |
I will scream |
21:50 |
m5 |
You will hear me |
21:51 |
* m5 |
needs sleep |
21:51 |
WindHero |
lol |
21:51 |
Jordach |
>sleep |
21:51 |
Jordach |
it's 11pm |
21:51 |
Jordach |
i can go until 3 30am |
21:52 |
WindHero |
I used to put up with this until halfway through high school: http://www.freesound.org/people/-Hero_of_the_Winds-/sounds/127902/ |
21:52 |
m5 |
Grr |
21:52 |
m5 |
Jordach always lets us know what he/she's doing: 2244 actions! |
21:52 |
* m5 |
so deserves that |
21:52 |
* Jordach |
wins at thta |
21:52 |
m5 |
Poor Jordach |
21:52 |
* m5 |
has memory foam :P |
21:52 |
* Jordach |
too |
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Jordach |
except nobody here can DJ Hero better than me |
21:53 |
* WindHero |
is puzzled by the /me spam |
21:53 |
m5 |
Doesn't sound like an aircraft carrier every time I get on now |
21:53 |
kat_ |
guys, I cleaned installed my computer with Linux Lite. |
21:53 |
* m5 |
wants to... I see what you did there |
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m5 |
kat_, Linux Lite?? |
21:53 |
Jordach |
https://www.linuxliteos.com/ |
21:53 |
WindHero |
Jordach: can you Fire Emblem? |
21:54 |
kat_ |
I got Minetest out of the synaptic package and it downloaded fine. But I can't get the mod store to come up. It goes completely off. |
21:54 |
Jordach |
kat_, modstore has always been broken |
21:54 |
m5 |
Mine too |
21:54 |
Jordach |
use the PPA or self compil;e |
21:54 |
m5 |
COmpi.. That^^ |
21:54 |
kat_ |
I mean the game goes completely off. ohhhh so how do I get mods? |
21:55 |
m5 |
The proper way |
21:55 |
WindHero |
manual download from the forums |
21:55 |
m5 |
AKA the proper way |
21:55 |
* m5 |
says the proper way the third time |
21:55 |
m5 |
Wait what Is that title based on? |
21:55 |
m5 |
X always lets us know what he/she is doing |
21:55 |
WindHero |
a proper English accent |
21:56 |
Jordach |
kat_, you can install mods into ~/.minetest/mods/ from the forums |
21:56 |
* m5 |
has a proper english BREAD |
21:56 |
Jordach |
~ is assuming you are at /home/username |
21:56 |
* m5 |
really must go to bed now |
21:56 |
kat_ |
oh good thanks |
21:56 |
Jordach |
HOWEVER |
21:56 |
Jordach |
you need to enable the mods PER WORLD. |
21:56 |
* m5 |
brings up a shell and pings google |
21:56 |
WindHero |
goodnight then, m5 |
21:56 |
* m5 |
pings google with tor :P |
21:58 |
* m5 |
has ip 96.47.226.22 |
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m5 |
86.142.*.* |
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m5 |
gtg |
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Vazon |
ShadowNinja are you around? |
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shadowzone |
hi. |
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Exio4 |
hihi |
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sweBers |
Good evening! Anyone available for a quick question about mod libraries? |
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Exio4 |
just ask it and then someone will answer |
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sweBers |
Ah, good. not a dead channel! |