Time Nick Message 00:03 OldCoder Vazon, indicate what happens 00:04 VanessaE Vazon: a cURL client is any client built against libcurl, which is most of the ones floating around now. that's all. 00:05 VanessaE sfan5's or blockmen's builds, for example, have cURL 00:06 VanessaE as do PilzAdam's and fess's 00:08 Vazon im using the one i from here 00:09 Vazon https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3837 00:38 OldCoder Vazon, tested? 00:39 VanessaE that's not anyone's specific build, but I don't see cURL in there. 00:39 VanessaE that's Calinou's one-line method *of* building it 00:40 VanessaE but it makes it *your* build, technically :) 00:40 Piggybear87 OldCoder, I still cannot connect. 00:40 OldCoder Piggybear87, are you using a curl client? 00:40 OldCoder Piggybear87, wait; which world? 00:40 Piggybear87 Yes, the PPA vesion is built with it. 00:40 Piggybear87 30011 00:40 OldCoder Ah 00:40 OldCoder Piggybear87, I am migrating it to LevelDB 00:41 OldCoder It's about 54% done 00:41 Piggybear87 Oh, so it's not up right now? 00:41 OldCoder No; migrating to LevelDB for speed and endurance 00:41 Piggybear87 Oh, cool! 00:41 OldCoder Looks like that might take a couple more hours. If something goes wrong, might be all night. But worth the effort. 00:42 Piggybear87 Why does it take so long? 00:44 Vazon OldCoder it worked, the ungernerating did. people are still timing out tho 00:44 Piggybear87 Vazon, Which server? 00:44 OldCoder Vazon, they will need curl clients 00:44 Vazon Piggy, Minerealms 00:44 Piggybear87 Your Server, right? 00:44 Vazon mhmm that sucks 00:44 Vazon Piggy yes, your free to join me 00:45 OldCoder curl? It is reasonable 00:45 OldCoder It looks like the media fetch is working 00:46 Vazon OK 00:46 Piggybear87 I'm still hanging at media... 00:48 Vazon really? 00:48 Piggybear87 I was doing OK till I switched to the PPA Minetest, and for what? Ease of updating? Too lazy to open Terminal to launch Minetest... 00:49 Piggybear87 It loads media exactly to the middle, the center of the "d". 00:50 OldCoder Piggybear87, is it a curl build? 00:51 Piggybear87 In the esc menu, it says curl=1, so I assume so. 00:52 * Piggybear87 munches Dove chocolate and cries... 00:54 Piggybear87 *Snif* 00:54 Piggybear87 Sniff* 00:56 * Piggybear87 guesses this is as good time as any to work on his server's map. 00:57 Piggybear87 Ping if you need me. 00:57 OldCoder Piggybear87, working on the issue 00:57 Piggybear87 I know. 00:57 OldCoder Piggybear87, you can help by finding people to discuss curl with me 00:57 OldCoder I'm seeing requests for actual media files such as GET /media/curl/robin2.ogg instead of the hashes sfan5 had me make. 00:57 OldCoder I need to find somebody to discuss that ^ point with 00:57 Piggybear87 I join #minetest-dev also, Lol I saw that. 00:57 OldCoder kk 00:58 OldCoder Well, if you can find somebody, ping me 00:58 OldCoder I can't do much until the answers are clear 00:58 Piggybear87 That seems like it's coming from a mod. Mobf maybe? 01:00 kaeza OldCoder, it's probably a request sent by an older MT client which doesn't support the hashed filenames, though I'm just guessing 01:00 Vazon OldCoder is it possible to make it where they dont need curl?? even my players who have played before are timeing out :| its bumming me out 01:00 Piggybear87 I can't even play MY OWN server because it locks my computer... Minetest USED to be good for old computers... 01:01 * kaeza looks at Buildcrap 01:04 Vazon kaeza what is that? 01:04 kaeza Vazon, what is what? Buildcra[ft]? 01:05 Piggybear87 OldCoder, My girlfriend has the same problem as me. Hangs at media... 01:05 Vazon oooo xD now i understand 01:05 Vazon Piggy it will take upwards of 20 min jsut give it time 01:05 Vazon to more you restart it will cause your tiem to restart 01:06 Piggybear87 Why??? That's ridiculous.... 01:06 kaeza it's one of those clients that surfaced a while ago in some mobile device stores (illegal BTW) 01:07 Vazon idk Piggy that is how long i was told it takes by one of the people who waited to join my server, i hate it soo much 01:07 Piggybear87 I bitched that guy out in the comments. Saying "You use almost ALL of Minetes't code (even minetest.register_node) and you don't mention them ANYWHERE! And I call him a douche. 01:07 Vazon i thought buildcraft was built by sapier? 01:08 Piggybear87 Only since the update, I say we all go back one version... 01:08 OldCoder Piggybear87, I am trying to find somebody to explain curl 01:09 OldCoder Piggybear87, try now 01:09 Piggybear87 Which one? 01:09 OldCoder Minerealms 01:10 Vazon im getting complaints that blocks are laggin now 01:10 Piggybear87 Still hangs. And no game is worth a 20 minute wait to load... 01:10 OldCoder Piggybear87, (1) are you using a curl client (2) did you restart it? 01:10 sapier1 no I'm not involved in buildcraft 01:11 OldCoder sapier1, Hi! 01:11 OldCoder sapier1, can you comment on curl? 01:11 Vazon Piggy once your in once your fine but you have to wait for the first one 01:11 Vazon o i thought you built it so i installed it sapier, i will be deleting it 01:11 sapier1 not really I don't know much about our way of using it 01:11 Piggybear87 OldCoder, Yes to both. Vazon, I'm soory, but, it's not worth it... 01:12 Piggybear87 sorry* 01:12 OldCoder Piggybear87, well, I've done what's possible 01:12 Vazon Piggy yes nothing i would wait for ether and it seems no one wants to wait ether :( 01:12 OldCoder sapier1, sfan5 told me to make hashes. But clients are requesting filenames. 01:13 OldCoder Piggybear87, Vazon you can help by reporting this in the dev channel 01:13 asl Vazon: pm 01:13 Piggybear87 Maybe put a version of the servers on different ports while you're testing. 01:13 sapier1 kahrl did write the curl code maybe he can help 01:13 Vazon OldCoder can you revert back to before yesterday?? it was fine till then 01:14 OldCoder Revert *what* ? 01:14 OldCoder sapier1, when is he around? 01:14 Vazon revert the curl and the other thing you added yesterday 01:15 OldCoder curl is not something that is revertable... it is simply a feature 01:15 OldCoder And I didn't add anything yesterday the way you mean 01:15 sapier1 hard to tell oldcoder just try and hope 01:15 OldCoder I got no time to do so sapier1 01:15 Vazon you did something while all the servers was down i cant remember what that was 01:15 sapier1 vazon are you on android? 01:16 Vazon atm no im laptop but the buildcraft is 01:16 sapier1 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9389 if yes try latest one ... last time I did look at buildcraft it's codebase was way outdated 01:17 Piggybear87 OldCoder, get one build older versions of Minetest, so people can play while you figure this out. 01:19 sapier1 it's not necessaryly oldcoders fault, curl uses http thus if something within your provider infrastructure changed e.g. some transparent proxy beeing added .... that could cause issues too 01:20 Vazon yes i know sapier its no ones fault 01:20 asl !up minetest.org 30012 01:20 MinetestBot minetest.org:30012 is up (1352ms) 01:21 Piggybear87 Wow, what a ping... 01:21 asl i guess shadowbot is broken :P 01:21 Vazon Piggy we arent lagging tho 01:21 OldCoder The server is up 01:22 Piggybear87 That high of a ping may be why it takes so long to connect. 01:22 OldCoder My pings are normal 01:22 OldCoder Is there some network outage going on? 01:22 OldCoder What region are you in Piggybear87? 01:22 Vazon OldCoder there is no lag 01:22 OldCoder So you are on? 01:23 Piggybear87 Florida. 01:23 OldCoder Hm 01:23 OldCoder Piggybear87, I don't know if there *is* a problem 01:23 OldCoder There are a number of conflicting signs 01:23 OldCoder Sorry 01:23 Vazon yes but people are timing out :| me don and Miles are on no one else is able to join, they jsut time out unless they wait for 20+ min 01:23 OldCoder Vazon, Piggybear87 see all the above 01:23 asl piggybear, try pinging the server on your side 01:23 OldCoder There is nothing I can do. I see few changes in the source code recently. 01:24 asl ping -c 5 minetest.org 01:24 OldCoder I will try reverting the core a few days. 01:24 Vazon ok 01:24 asl my avg is 494.624 01:26 Piggybear87 Avereage 240 01:26 Piggybear87 Average* 01:26 asl you got better ping than me and yet you aren't able to connect lol 01:26 Vazon asl its because you joined before the changes 01:27 OldCoder There were no changes except rebuild 01:27 OldCoder Which means that there may be a bug in the core 01:27 OldCoder Or else weird network problems in the U.S. today 01:28 Piggybear87 Like I said, get a one build older build. It may be the code, not network. 01:29 OldCoder Piggybear87, (1) find me somebody who can discuss the curl setup or (2) find me somebody who can discuss a git revert 01:29 OldCoder There is nothing more that I can do without such a person who will talk 01:29 Piggybear87 Screw git, get stable. 01:29 OldCoder I am connecting fine to the world BTW 01:29 Vazon OldCoder there is nothing wrong with the network this has been happening since you restarted all the servers yesterday 01:29 OldCoder D: 01:29 OldCoder Vazon, don't presume to lecture me 01:29 Vazon sorry im not trying to be rude, im just stating a point 01:30 OldCoder Both of you, see the above; I need help from a dev who will discuss one of the two things 01:30 OldCoder I just connected to Minerealms 01:30 OldCoder Just now; and it is working fine 01:30 Piggybear87 Why not just get stable and stick with stable builds? 01:30 OldCoder Stable won't work with some mods IIRC 01:30 OldCoder And many clients IIRC 01:31 OldCoder Plus I am not sure there is a problem 01:31 OldCoder Plus we need the latest curl support code 01:31 OldCoder As curl seems to be the only fix for this sort of issue 01:31 OldCoder 01:31 OldCoder Find me somebody to talk about the two issues. Else there is nothing more I can do. 01:31 Piggybear87 Still hang at media. 01:31 OldCoder Piggybear87, what client are you using, exactly? 01:32 Piggybear87 The newest, I got it this afternoon. Around 1:00 PM my time. 01:32 OldCoder Heh 01:32 OldCoder Batman is online 01:32 OldCoder Newest from *who* 01:32 OldCoder Piggybear87, exactly where did you get it? 01:32 Piggybear87 The PPA. 01:32 Vazon ya that is Don his nickname is changed 01:32 OldCoder What happens when you use an older client? 01:33 Piggybear87 I don't know. I'm no longer self compiling. 01:33 OldCoder Can you revert to an older client? 01:34 OldCoder VanessaE, people are unhappy. They say they cannot connect. 01:34 OldCoder I'd really like to find somebody who can discuss curl. 01:34 Piggybear87 Not without self compiling. I may be able to get stable. 01:34 VanessaE strange 01:35 VanessaE AHHHHHHHH the comfort of xchat again 01:35 OldCoder See what happens 01:35 OldCoder VanessaE, comments? 01:35 asl the only change you did was setup the remote media iirc 01:35 OldCoder Piggybear87 is quite sad 01:35 OldCoder asl, I did that because of the connect issue 01:35 OldCoder So it started before that 01:35 * Piggybear87 is still munching Dove chocolates and crying... 01:35 OldCoder Other people said that MT does not work any more without curl 01:36 * Vazon steals Piggybear87's Dove chocolates and crys himself. 01:36 asl piggybear, you got everything install that is needed to build minetest? 01:37 Piggybear87 Yes. I can get on other servers with no problem.. 01:38 Piggybear87 I cannot get stable, because I will have to "apt-get install minetest" Which I already did for daily/unstable. 01:39 Piggybear87 I could maybe install Wine again and try the Windows version of stable. 01:41 asl build from git 01:44 Vazon resarting OldCoder? 01:48 OldCoder Yes 01:48 Vazon ok 01:52 Vazon OldCoder 01:53 Vazon i found something that may help 01:53 OldCoder Vazon, ? 01:53 Vazon read the last post this is from SAFR: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9344&p=144325#p144325 01:53 OldCoder Summarize it 01:54 Vazon 21:38:59: ACTION[main]: Client: Contacting remote server "http://minetest.org/media/curl/" he gets that error 01:54 OldCoder Vazon, what happens when you connect to 30012 presentling? 01:54 OldCoder * presently? 01:54 Vazon i log in 01:54 OldCoder No hangup? 01:54 OldCoder Vazon, in that post is there a solution? 01:55 Vazon and now the time outs leaves him with this ERROR: Client disconnected. 01:55 Vazon no im jsut statign the errors that hes getting so help 01:55 OldCoder Vazon, is anybody but Piggybear87 having problems ATM? 01:56 asl http://minetest.org/media/curl/ is forbidden? 01:56 Vazon the media pauses for like 10 sec. and yes most everyone. 01:56 OldCoder I am not seeing this 01:56 OldCoder asl, there is no index.html file 01:56 OldCoder asl, do you lock up on media or not for 30012? 01:56 OldCoder sapier1, You don't know about the curl hash issue, right? 01:57 sapier1 no 01:57 asl no but that cause i join before the change and already gotten the media 01:57 Vazon asl does not becuase he joined the before the changes happened 01:57 OldCoder No 01:57 OldCoder I have restarted the world numerous times 01:57 OldCoder asl, exit and reenter 01:57 asl the media only download once 01:57 OldCoder Delete your cache, then 01:57 asl :/ 01:58 OldCoder Or just rename it 01:58 OldCoder Nothing lost, then 02:00 asl i am building the newest minetest from git so that will have to wait since the cpu is being using for building 02:00 OldCoder kk 02:01 OldCoder Vazon, delete your cache and connect to your world? 02:01 OldCoder And which client are you using? 02:02 Vazon im using a dev about a month old 02:03 Vazon this file? CMakeCache 02:05 asl mine is way back in april 02:05 Vazon nvm found it 02:06 Vazon media is moving but slowly but im not getting hung up 02:08 Vazon ok im in it just moved slowly 02:11 Vazon sapier are you not able to join? 03:02 LazyJ Any leveldb experts in here? I'm curious if there is any appreciable advantage of switching Minetest worlds from sqlite to leveldb backends. I've read that leveldb is faster but how stable is it? Faster, but is it significant enough? 03:30 sydney goodnight everyone!! 03:57 jordan4ibanez Is there a way to make an integer public? 03:58 kaeza eh? 03:59 jordan4ibanez As in I have a void function but I want to make one of the integers created in the function available to all functions 04:04 Piggybear87 Vazon, intercat please? 04:07 Megaf LazyJ; 04:07 Piggybear87 Vazon, Please hurry, I lag like crazy at your spawn, I need interact. 04:07 Megaf [00:02:43] Any leveldb experts in here? I'm curious if there is any appreciable advantage of switching Minetest worlds from sqlite to leveldb backends. I've read that leveldb is faster but how stable is it? Faster, but is it significant enough? 04:07 Megaf well 04:07 LazyJ Howdy, Megaf ;) 04:07 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001 04:07 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (428ms) 04:07 Megaf see it for youself 04:07 Megaf That's my Raspberry Pi using LevelDB 04:08 Megaf 630 MHz 04:08 Megaf single core, ARM 04:08 LazyJ I've been reading the Internet and a few things are starting to shed some light on my question. 04:09 LazyJ I converted a backup copy of Wazuland2 and there are corrupted blocks and none of the test builds in the world are saved. 04:10 LazyJ The world.sqlite file is 6.1gb. 04:10 Piggybear87 Vazon, nevermind You took too long. Asking for interact sucks... 04:10 Piggybear87 I'm out. Bye. 04:10 LazyJ After the leveldb migration, the map.db directory weighed in at about half that (3.4gb). 04:10 Megaf interesting 04:10 Megaf well, I created the world in leveldb already 04:11 Megaf I will keep testing for some more weeks, then I MIGHT migrate my main server to leveldb 04:11 LazyJ I've done that too with my much smaller, singleplayer, test worlds. 04:11 LazyJ What I came across on the Internet makes me doubt that leveldb is a good option for Minetest atm. 04:11 LazyJ The drastic file reduction was do to the fact that leveldb uses compression by default. 04:12 LazyJ This takes up less disk space but works the cpu harder to do all the compression and decompression on the fly. 04:12 Megaf I think LevelDB is much more likely to corrupt when the server crashesd 04:12 OldCoder ANNOUNCE: Landrush and Minerealms both converted to LevelDB. Both running now with curl, luajit, O3 optimization. 04:12 LazyJ That was another point I read. 04:13 OldCoder LazyJ, It has a journal 04:13 Megaf OldCoder; 03 is default for minetest release, isnt it? 04:13 LazyJ Sqlite may be more bloated but seems to survive crashes better than leveldb. 04:13 OldCoder Vazon, asl, Landrush and Minerealms are both up 04:13 OldCoder Megaf, did they change that? 04:13 OldCoder I checked the code 04:13 OldCoder Thought it was -O2 04:13 OldCoder LazyJ, I have observed the opposite 04:13 Megaf OldCoder; well, sapier said that Release is 03 04:13 OldCoder It may be so now then 04:13 Megaf and debug is 02 or 01, I dont remember 04:14 LazyJ The other thing that bothered me was that apparently leveldb requires more disk seeks per read. 04:14 OldCoder That is fine; thank you 04:14 OldCoder LazyJ, on the whole for the purposes of MT LevelDB seems to be much faster due to the nature of acesses 04:14 OldCoder sqlite3 is of course more portable 04:15 fishyWET Hi OldCoder, u saw my messages left on the lott server? 04:15 LazyJ Faster is good only if it can tolerate crashes and isn't easily corrupted. 04:15 OldCoder fishyWET, Yes. Thanks. Amaz said I could mention the world here. 04:15 OldCoder I have kept server announce turned off. 04:16 LazyJ Until Minetest creates leveldb worlds instead of sqlite worlds by default, I'll wait. 04:16 fishyWET alright thanks, u can probably turn it on two days from now 04:16 LazyJ Perhaps by then things will be more polished. 04:16 OldCoder fishyWET, Vazon, Amaz, asl There is one more request I have of people. I want coords of interesting places. The Places mod is good for this. 04:16 OldCoder I will make a travelogue 04:17 OldCoder I will see if Places mod is still around and add it 04:17 fishyWET just wondering, wat's places mod abt? 04:18 OldCoder You can bookmark places and leave remarks about them 04:18 OldCoder Handy for documenting locations easily 04:18 fishyWET oh alright 04:19 Megaf LazyJ; well, we could try to change default leveldv options 04:19 Megaf maybe with those changes it will be as fast/slow as sqlite3 04:19 Megaf sqlite can be as fast as leveldb, if you dont use sync, ie = 0 04:19 OldCoder Bad idea? 04:19 Megaf but then it would be as easy to corrupt as leveldb 04:20 OldCoder LevelDB has a journal, right? 04:20 OldCoder I have never observed corruption with it 04:20 Megaf bottom line, use sqlite3 with default options (2) 04:20 Megaf OldCoder; kill your serfver with kill -9 PID a couple of times and then we talk again 04:20 OldCoder ? 04:20 Megaf server* 04:21 Megaf s/server/test server 04:22 Megaf let me PTS now, good night (Pee, brush my Teeh and Sleep) 04:23 Megaf Cya 04:38 Miner_48er will sqlite3 remain supported in future versions? 04:45 LiveEvil i forgot how to pm lol 04:50 Vazon Piggybear87 04:50 Vazon o he left 04:55 Vazon !tell Piggybear87 Sorry I was busy when you joined i will grant you interact tomorrow as soon as you join :) 04:55 MinetestBot Vazon: I'll pass that on when Piggybear87 is around 07:00 sfan5 LazyJ: leveldb is a bit more stable than sqlite3 07:02 LazyJ Thanks, sfan5. The migration process didn't work so well for me. 07:02 sfan5 report any problems to the github bug tracker or to me 07:03 LazyJ I'm not sure what to report on this one. 07:03 LazyJ The problems I was having with the converted world were not showing up in the terminal. 07:03 LazyJ *That* was a problem. 07:05 LazyJ It wasn't until I poked around in the map.db folder and read into the log files that I found reports of compaction errors and corrupted blocks. 07:05 LazyJ I have no experience with the inner workings of leveldb so these logs were nothing useful to me atm. 07:07 sfan5 well 07:07 sfan5 uh.. 07:07 sfan5 those .log files are not ascii text 07:07 sfan5 but this might be a bug in leveldb itself 07:08 LazyJ 2014/06/08-19:40:42.678133 7fe5214ab700 Compaction error: Corruption: bad entry in block 07:08 VanessaE sfan5: I fought with zeno's server and lost (after he also fought and lost) with leveldb maps being re-generated post-migration, yet those same migrated maps worked perfectly for me 07:08 sfan5 :-/ 07:09 sfan5 I guess it's time for me to write a mysql backend 07:09 VanessaE and indeed I have no trouble with it on my local machine or on my server 07:09 LazyJ It might make a difference if the worlds started with leveldb. 07:09 VanessaE but he and cg72 both just could. not. make. it. work. 07:10 VanessaE LazyJ: indeed - a world that started as leveldb seemed to work, according to those two; my worlds as you know were migrated. 07:10 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Fix #1358 (disappearing clouds) e17d29ccd6 2014-06-09T08:18:33+02:00 http://git.io/-KtGyw 07:11 LazyJ It took over 3hrs to migrate the world on my i7 computer. 07:11 sfan5 the migration only uses one cpu 07:11 LazyJ And there is no indication during or after that anything was amiss. 07:11 sfan5 it can't even use more in the most cases 07:11 sfan5 leveldb returned an OK everytime then 07:12 LazyJ I don't recall what the output in the terminal was during the migration. 07:13 sfan5 if levedb were to return an error the migration would instantly stop 07:25 MinetestBot GIT: 0gb-us commited to minetest/minetest: Added show_debug to minetest.conf.example c6a9eae3ae 2014-06-09T10:23:38+03:00 http://git.io/6zPwMw 09:14 sfan5 http://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/27h4ur/requesthow_many_stickybombs_would_it_take_to_get/ci14i6r 09:14 sfan5 lol 09:21 VanessaE someone has too much time on their hands. 09:21 Calinou on their hooves 09:22 VanessaE whatever 11:05 Calinou lol, was randomly walking in cave, putting torches 11:05 Calinou then *gib sound plays* 11:05 Calinou with punch sound 11:06 Calinou was an oerkki 11:29 Calinou dungeon masters can be used to make tunnels: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ZNYxop-bFAFn.jpg 11:45 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/S35RpulBsfiI.png 11:45 Calinou new Carbone screenshot on the texture pack topic 12:22 Krock hi 12:23 Krock where's ShadowBot at inchra.net? 12:32 raffahacks hello! 12:33 raffahacks sfan5: meow! 12:52 Megaf Forming all 12:54 Megaf I mean, Morning all 12:54 Megaf :) 12:56 PenguinDad Good afternoon Megaf 12:56 PilzAdam good afterform Megaf 12:57 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 12:57 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (838ms) 13:10 * Krock updated secret_passages 13:14 * Krock meows 94 times at PilzAdam 13:14 * PilzAdam places each meow into a post 13:14 * Krock reports that as anti-spam 13:39 Megaf meh, if I use OpenGL on minetest for windows I get borked textures, if I use direct3d8 minetest crashes when starting, the window doesnt even show up, if I use direct3d9, textures are fine, performance is fine, but soon I get "Access Violation" 13:40 Krock s/broked/broken 13:40 Krock version? 13:40 w_laenger hi 13:40 Krock ih 13:41 Megaf minetest-0.4.9 by sfan5 13:41 Krock newest? 13:41 PenguinDad Megaf: Stable or dev? 13:41 Megaf I tested several versions with OpenGL all of them with broken textures 13:41 Megaf stable PenguinDad 13:41 Krock get dev 13:42 Krock Megaf ^ 13:42 Megaf man, don't you understand what "stable" means? 13:42 Megaf Will we get to that discusion again? 13:42 Krock it means outdated 13:43 w_laenger 0.4.9 doesn't support minetest.override_item 13:43 Krock some problems there have been fixed with newer dev-builds 13:43 Krock ..and doesn't have 3rdplayer view 13:44 PenguinDad Krock: who needs third person view? 13:44 Megaf I'm gonna try Minetest 0.4.9-dev20140605 by BlockMen 13:44 w_laenger I need it 13:44 Krock PenguinDad, me. doing skin check and selfies 13:45 Krock making new skins is also not very efficient when you need 2 players/clients 13:45 w_laenger I'm not sure if I did something wrong: With the newest minetest I don't get the right error messages if I write something wrong when I make mods. 13:46 Megaf That build just show an error message and dont start 13:46 Krock w_laenger, reproduce the error and paste-bin it 13:46 w_laenger it always tells me something at items.lua add_node works wrong 13:46 PenguinDad Megaf: which error message? 13:46 Megaf GetTickCount64 could be foun 13:46 Krock Megaf, get sfan5's build 13:46 Megaf could not be* 13:46 Krock not blockmens 13:47 w_laenger ok 13:47 Krock that's a problem of win 5.1 aka XP 13:48 w_laenger there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7618177/ 13:48 w_laenger I just didn't use brackets at pairs 13:48 Krock w_laenger, show codes 13:49 w_laenger http://paste.ubuntu.com/7618183/ line 24 13:50 Megaf Krock: sfan5: 13:50 Megaf Irrlicht log: DIRECT3D9 Driver was not compiled into this dll. Try another one. 13:50 Megaf lol 13:50 w_laenger I didn't use brackets at pairs and the problem were at add_node 13:50 w_laenger was* 13:50 Megaf Irrlicht log: DIRECT3D8 Driver was not compiled into this dll. Try another one. 13:50 Krock Megaf, use OpenGl, d3d9 doesn't work well anyway 13:50 Megaf Are you sure this is a windows build? 13:50 Megaf Newer versions of Windows doesnt even ship with OpenGL 13:51 Krock w_laenger, weird error. 13:51 Krock Megaf, everything suports OpenGL 13:51 PenguinDad what no OpenGL in Windows 8.1? 13:51 w_laenger how can I fix it? 13:52 Krock w_laenger, print("step X with data YZ") at every 2nd line 13:52 Krock see how much gets potputted be4 crash 13:52 Krock *outputted 13:53 w_laenger https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/item.lua#L276 13:53 Megaf well, the latest sfan5 build have broken textures too 13:53 Megaf and it supports only OpenGL 13:53 Megaf I need a working build with working Direct3D8 support 13:53 w_laenger Maybe it's because of "core" 13:54 Krock it must be a argument error 13:54 Krock either pos or the table is wrong 13:54 Krock Megaf, only soulation: try freeminer or bug blockmen to get it running 13:54 Krock (or sfan 5) 13:54 w_laenger I know what's wrong but minetest usually knows this too 13:55 * Megaf looks at proller 13:55 Krock w_laenger, debug with "print(dump(place_to).."\n"..dump(newnode))" at https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/item.lua#L274 13:56 w_laenger https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/c4359ff65cd8e4e754442b9f2ef7051a8eaa4241 I think that caused it 13:57 Krock w_laenger, I use such functions daily and never got any errors 13:58 Megaf Now, changing topic, I wonder, what a player that expend hours only *with no interact priv* is doing? 14:00 w_laenger I think it's caused by this mod... "ac" 14:00 w_laenger the error message should look a bit like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7618222/ 14:03 w_laenger http://paste.ubuntu.com/7618236/ this is the mod 14:05 Megaf the mod trash can works great on my raspberry pi server 14:06 w_laenger I accidentally unloaded a xchat plugin and didn't find out a way to add it back yet 14:06 w_laenger Megaf, which one? 14:06 Megaf hm 14:07 Megaf s/trash_can $ ls 14:07 Megaf depends.txt dumpster.lua init.lua README.txt sounds textures 14:07 Megaf This one :P 14:07 Megaf w_laenger: https://github.com/4Evergreen4/ 14:07 Megaf from him 14:07 w_laenger ok, so the green one? 14:08 Megaf Linking CXX executable ../bin/minetestserver 14:08 Megaf [100%] Built target minetestserver 14:08 Megaf real 76m9.439s 14:08 Megaf Yay! new build compiled 14:08 w_laenger http://wiki.minetest.net/images/2/27/Dyes.png are these default dyes? 14:09 Megaf w_laenger: nope 14:09 Megaf they are from mods 14:09 Megaf the default one is much more limited 14:09 Megaf w_laenger: maybe thats from unified_dyes or something like that 14:10 w_laenger "This table shows all of the possible recipes." Actually not every texture differs from the next one 14:11 w_laenger http://wiki.minetest.net/images/d/d1/Connected_chest.png Is there more than 1 mod which adds big chests? 14:12 Megaf why would you want big chests? 14:12 Megaf we have refrigerators! 14:12 w_laenger in homedecor... 14:13 w_laenger and I don't like these 3d signs because they are rotated wrong after installing them I think 14:13 Megaf w_laenger: those are the dyes we have https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/tree/master/mods/dye/textures 14:14 w_laenger Megaf, I know 14:17 w_laenger "net noise" with a mistake: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/eqpGLzatKvB5.png 14:21 w_laenger cnd.mediacru.sh doesn't like me... 14:22 w_laenger and without: http://i.imgur.com/SS5L9nE.png 14:22 w_laenger do you need this? 14:26 Tesseract Eater4: LuaBot yes, but HLuaBot is a testing and developing bot. 14:27 Krock w_laenger, link of connected_chests mod' 14:27 Krock *? 14:29 w_laenger this one? https://github.com/HybridDog/connected_chests 14:29 Krock that one. 14:30 w_laenger https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2558 google found another one 14:31 w_laenger and this one https://github.com/PilzAdam/MiniTest/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua 14:32 LemonLake Hey Krock 14:32 LemonLake Was your server having a lagspike at 12pm your time today? 14:32 Krock Hey LemonLake 14:32 Krock 12pm? at that time it was down since 1.5 hours and smehow none joine 3 hours before 14:33 Krock agh typos 14:33 LemonLake Hm 14:33 LemonLake Well I was on 14:33 LemonLake I was testing out android multiplayer, but it was really laggy 14:33 Krock k 14:34 Krock w_laenger, ?id=2558 is a single-node larger chest 14:34 w_laenger http://i.imgur.com/SS5L9nE.png this may be used for tunnels 14:34 LemonLake that's pretty cool 14:34 Krock is that a tree generation thingie? 14:34 w_laenger Krock, ok, I haven't tested it 14:35 w_laenger it's not made with the L-system 14:35 Krock w_laenger, but I did now. It makes the chestinventory larger by ~4 rows 14:35 Krock not? 14:35 w_laenger https://github.com/HybridDog/miscellaneous/blob/master/txt/luas/net_noise.lua 14:35 Krock uh.. I could add such tunnels with a perlin noise in my mapgen 14:36 w_laenger it's not a perlin noise 14:36 Krock perlin noise would look a bit more natural 14:37 w_laenger tunnels shouldn't look natural, I think 14:37 Krock hmm 14:37 LemonLake they should have multiple stages 14:37 LemonLake cave-based, straight along with square turns and net-based 14:38 w_laenger maybe use the code of the maze mod for it too 14:38 LemonLake yeah 14:38 w_laenger made by Echo 14:53 Piggybear87 I get more than 1000 of lines that look exactly like this with different numbers at the end. 14:53 Piggybear87 10:41:48: ERROR[main]: FileCache: Can't write to file at /home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d/bin/../cache/media/5ca3f9cb83221312d69b13eb45145e46b754a786 14:54 Krock Piggybear87, missing privileges? 14:54 Piggybear87 That means my 20 minute wait to get on Landrush was for nothing. I'm going to have to wait that long from now on... 14:54 Krock 20 minutes? uh 14:54 Piggybear87 Krock, no. I'm superuser. 14:55 Piggybear87 Yes, because Minetest is broke after the newest git. 14:55 Krock LemonLake, server downtime at Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday 14:56 Piggybear87 OldCoder, updated to the latest git 2 days ago and I havn't been able to connect because I gave up after 10 minutes. 14:56 Krock I'd give up after 3mins 14:56 jp__ Hello. When you did a mistake (misplacing or something) with WorldEdit, there is a command which cancel an action (like "/rollback") ? 14:56 Krock Hello and no 14:56 jp__ Ok, thanks. 14:56 Krock shit happens - use backups 14:57 jp__ I will request to sfan5 to add that... 14:57 Piggybear87 I know, I usually do also, but they insisted that I give it time, so I did, Now that I cannot write to the cache, I have to wait that long every time. 14:57 * PenguinDad doesn't like OOP 14:57 w_laenger there's already a request 14:57 jp__ Ah ! 14:57 Krock Piggybear87, run it as administarator :P 14:58 Piggybear87 I am superuser. As soon as I launch Terminal, I -su. 14:58 OldCoder Piggybear87, not following; didn't you indicate you could connect last night? 14:59 Krock -su virus 14:59 OldCoder And it appears that 5 to 10 minutes is a minimum for connect the first time 14:59 w_laenger su rm -r / 14:59 Piggybear87 I connected to minerealms, not Landrush. 14:59 OldCoder The only solution I can see is to bundle cache with client 14:59 Krock (first time!) 14:59 OldCoder Piggybear87, 10 minutes should get you into Landrush 14:59 OldCoder BTW congrats on the successful build last night 15:00 Piggybear87 I got in after 20 minutes of waiting and now theres no cache, so I have to do it every time I want to connect. 15:00 OldCoder There should be a cache 15:00 PenguinDad w_laenger: it's su -c "rm --no-preserve-root -r /" 15:00 Piggybear87 10:41:48: ERROR[main]: FileCache: Can't write to file at /home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d/bin/../cache/media/5ca3f9cb83221312d69b13eb45145e46b754a786 15:00 sfan5 Megaf_: only the 64bit build supports directx 15:00 Piggybear87 I got more that 1000 of these. 15:00 sfan5 and only the newer ones 15:00 Piggybear87 Brb. 15:01 OldCoder Interesting; create a cache folder. Does it work then? 15:01 w_laenger PenguinDad, ok, you've got more experience with this 15:01 OldCoder mkdir cache in the same directory where you did make 15:01 OldCoder Folks, I need to take my car for service. If he returns, will people try to help him set up the cache without more talk of rm -r / ? 15:02 Krock rm *.* 15:02 OldCoder That is for DOS and Windows 15:02 OldCoder What he needs is mkdir cache 15:02 Krock ik 15:02 OldCoder asl, moin 15:02 OldCoder rm -fr Krock 15:02 OldCoder Krock, be useful 15:02 Krock fr? 15:02 asl hi 15:02 OldCoder Standard switches 15:02 OldCoder asl, let me know how things go 15:02 OldCoder I am away for car service but I did work a lot on all of this yesterday 15:03 Piggybear87 OldCoder, There IS a cache folder. 15:03 OldCoder And it's empty? 15:03 OldCoder cd into the folder 15:03 OldCoder and do pwd 15:03 OldCoder Indicate the output 15:03 asl piggybear: still unable to connect? 15:03 sfan5 it's client/cache btw 15:03 Krock Command rm not found 15:03 Krock lol 15:03 sfan5 uh no 15:03 OldCoder sfan5, note his error message 15:03 OldCoder /home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d/bin/../cache/media/5ca3f9cb83221312d69b13eb45145e46b754a786 15:03 sfan5 it's just cache 15:03 OldCoder Indeed 15:03 w_laenger rm -fr Krock; mv OldCoder Krock 15:03 * sfan5 flips w_laenger 15:04 OldCoder Piggybear87, I g2g. Please do the pwd. 15:04 OldCoder w_laenger, moin 15:04 w_laenger hi 15:04 OldCoder I do not wish to become Krock w_laenger 15:04 OldCoder The mv command does not quite fit 15:04 OldCoder Piggybear87, we will help if possible. Are you still here? 15:04 w_laenger ok 15:04 Krock Der Befehl "mv" ist entweder falsch geschrieben oder konnte nicht gefunden werden. 15:05 Piggybear87 I'm getting what you asked for. 15:05 OldCoder Krock, aim for more on-topic, please 15:05 Krock I'm on-topic 15:05 w_laenger mv: Fehlendes Dateioperand 15:05 w_laenger „mv --help“ gibt weitere Informationen. 15:05 Krock ^ 15:05 Krock ontopic too 15:05 OldCoder Krock, we had a difficult time here two years ago. To be clear, we aren't going back to those days. 15:05 OldCoder I will illustrate with a brief ban if necessary. 15:05 Piggybear87 Nothing happens OldCoder. 15:06 OldCoder pwd prints what? 15:06 Piggybear87 Nothing, it just goes to a new line. 15:06 Krock OldCoder, what do you mean by "two years ago"? I wasn't here these times...sooo 15:06 OldCoder I think you're dealing with a deleted directory 15:06 OldCoder pwd prints... nothing? 15:06 asl wouldn't it be ls instead of pwd? 15:06 OldCoder Krock, exactrly 15:06 OldCoder No; pwd 15:06 OldCoder Piggybear87, cd && pwd 15:06 OldCoder What does that print? 15:06 OldCoder * exactly 15:07 Krock eh 15:07 Piggybear87 It is ls... 15:07 w_laenger i=1; while true; do; sudo kill $i; i=(($i+1)); done 15:07 OldCoder Krock, the world involves a balance between chaos and order. Too much of either is undesirable. Keep this in mind. 15:07 Piggybear87 This is what I get for pwd /home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d/cache/media 15:08 asl oh, pwd return current dir? 15:08 OldCoder asl, prints it; not returns it 15:08 OldCoder Now... 15:08 Krock OldCoder, yeah I know that 15:08 OldCoder You have lots of error messages of the sort indicated above, Piggybear87 ? 15:08 w_laenger pwd returns it? 15:08 Piggybear87 Yes. 15:08 OldCoder /home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d/bin/../cache/media/5ca3f9cb83221312d69b13eb45145e46b754a786 15:08 OldCoder Is the cache/media subfolder empty? 15:09 Piggybear87 No, definatly not. 15:09 OldCoder But you have 1000s of errors 15:09 OldCoder Do this 15:09 OldCoder df -k . 15:09 w_laenger If I use print(os.execute("pwd")) it returns true 15:09 OldCoder What does it print? 15:09 OldCoder w_laenger, this is because pwd returns 0 or 1 15:09 w_laenger ok 15:09 OldCoder at the exit status level 15:10 w_laenger can I somehow get the printed text with lua? 15:10 OldCoder Return value is separate from printed output 15:10 Piggybear87 OldCoder, pm 15:10 OldCoder Yes; at least you can with most languages 15:10 OldCoder Piggybear87, kk 15:10 OldCoder w_laenger, I'm late for car service but can comment more later 15:10 w_laenger how? 15:10 w_laenger ok 15:18 Megaf_ This would be a very good board to run minetest server http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157513 15:23 sfan5 yes it probably would 15:24 Eater4 Megaf_: did you look at a raspberry pi? 15:24 sfan5 I saw exactly that board on a different site one week ago 15:24 kaeza w_laenger, local pwd = assert(os.popen("pwd")):read("*a") 15:25 w_laenger thanks 15:27 w_laenger os.popen is a nil value 15:28 kaeza err... it's io.popen 15:29 w_laenger print(assert(io.popen("echo i")):read("*a")) so? 15:30 kaeza yes 15:31 w_laenger does the terminal mod use this? 15:32 PenguinDad w_laenger: the terminal mod uses os.execute IIRC 15:32 w_laenger ok 15:34 w_laenger what is " > " good for? 15:37 w_laenger can I somehow send information to a client on a server with lua? 15:38 w_laenger I think a function to play music could be added to minetest without storing this music into media. 15:38 Jordach afternoons 15:40 w_laenger ̣̣̣ 15:40 w_laenger I tried to use � as variable. 15:41 w_laenger Do you want to see my newest construction? 15:41 kaeza what is that? 15:43 LemonLake I feel like making some sort of plant mod or food mod but there are so many 15:44 LemonLake At one point I actually thought about making a drugs mod but kids play this game so that wouldn't be good 15:44 PenguinDad LemonLake: make fictional food 15:44 LemonLake Hmm 15:44 LemonLake What theme? 15:44 TenPlus1 Hi folks... 15:45 Piggybear87 How do you trash something from the Terminal? 15:45 LemonLake rm -f 15:45 PenguinDad Piggybear87: rm 15:46 TenPlus1 am adding a cobweb node and was wondering if there is a way to slow users down when walking through it ??? 15:46 Piggybear87 So "rm -f "? 15:46 LemonLake Mhm 15:46 Piggybear87 Thanks. 15:47 Piggybear87 rm: cannot remove ‘/home/piggybear87/minetest-minetest-282f53d’: Is a directory 15:47 LemonLake rm -rf 15:47 LemonLake -r is recursive 15:47 w_laenger kaeza, a random unicode letter 15:47 PilzAdam sudo rm -rf /* 15:47 Jordach .E 15:47 Jordach LELELELELELELELEL 15:48 * kaeza slaps PilzAdam 15:48 * kaeza slaps Jordach too just because 15:48 Piggybear87 Got it. Thanks. For some reason I couldn't right-click and trash it... 15:48 * PilzAdam gallops away 15:49 * Piggybear87 thinks PilzAdam is a brony... 15:49 Jordach isn't that Calinou in disguise 15:49 Jordach fucking transformers shit right there 15:49 Jordach turning that 3v into 12v 15:49 kaeza dat language 15:50 PilzAdam not sure if brony.... or pony.jpg 15:50 * Piggybear87 can't stand ponies.... Except real ones... 15:51 * PenguinDad is watching MLP right now 15:51 Piggybear87 Grrr... 15:52 * Jordach is actually hungry 15:52 TenPlus1 which part of the liquid attributes in water_source slows down the user when walking through ??? 15:52 * TenPlus1 gives Jordach a Tesco meal with real pony inside 15:53 PilzAdam TenPlus1, viscosity 15:53 LemonLake How is vegetarian meat made? Please explain, me dum 15:53 * w_laenger gives Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=574 15:53 TenPlus1 PilzAdam: I've set liquid_viscosity and groups = {liquid=3) and it wont work 15:54 PilzAdam TenPlus1, it only works on liquids 15:54 PilzAdam setting the group liquid has no effect 15:54 PilzAdam you have to set liquid_type and the other liquid attributes 15:54 TenPlus1 I put the liquidtype = "source" and it worked then, but bringing up setnode() errors... 15:54 TenPlus1 no other way to slow a user down walking through a node ? 15:55 Piggybear87 Why would purge not be found? 15:55 PilzAdam thats because you haven't set the liquid_alternetive_flowing field 15:55 Piggybear87 I used it yesterday. 15:55 Jordach w_laenger, eh? 15:55 w_laenger LemonLake, http://www.epinions.com/content_5155496068?sb=1 15:56 TenPlus1 sweet, thanks PilzAdam ... that worked... 15:56 LemonLake w_laenger: tldr 15:58 TenPlus1 lol, maybe not... I broke a cobweb and it started flowing all over... hah 15:58 nman3600 Krock can i talk to you via Query a second? 15:59 nman3600 oh he's not here 15:59 LemonLake nman3600: how is your legel 15:59 nman3600 LemonLake fine 16:00 Piggybear87 purge : command not found. I don't get it... 16:01 w_laenger my world has more grass than yours I think https://github.com/HybridDog/grass 16:06 LemonLake What can the koneki debugger do? 16:10 w_laenger am I the only one who uses the ambience mod now? 16:11 Calinou you're the only one who actually hears the sounds – everyone else disabled their sound as it was too annoying. ;) 16:12 w_laenger ok 16:12 LemonLake wtf 16:12 LemonLake eclipse looks messed up 16:15 Piggybear87 Nevermind, I forgot apt-get... I'm dumd... 16:15 Piggybear87 LOL! Dumb* 16:15 Calinou in 14.04, you can do “apt” 16:16 TenPlus1 w_laenger: I use it on Xanadu server as well, great mod... 16:16 kaeza dumd == dum daemon? 16:16 Calinou sudo apt update; sudo apt dist-upgrade; sudo apt install minetest; sudo apt remove minetest; apt show Minetest 16:16 Calinou no capital at last Minetest, oops 16:17 w_laenger TenPlus1, yes, maybe I could increase the performance a bit 16:17 TenPlus1 w_laenger: Ambiance mod (server edition) is a lot smaller and skips the music part... 16:18 w_laenger yes 16:18 kaeza ambience should really be client-side 16:18 kaeza :< 16:18 w_laenger "I think a function to play music could be added to minetest without storing this music into media." 16:18 TenPlus1 it would be easy enough to add it into Minetest itself.... using all of your own sound packs etc...# 16:19 Piggybear87 Why the eff is there still a LOT of things with minetest in the name after I remove, purge, and autoremove? 16:19 kaeza w_laenger, afaik, you are able to store sounds into minetest/sounds/ and the server can tell the client to play them 16:19 w_laenger how? 16:19 kaeza s/you are able/you can/ 16:20 w_laenger is this function added yet? 16:20 kaeza IIRC yes 16:20 TenPlus1 not as yet... the mod checks for certain blocks around it and what time of day it is, then plays the appropriate sound 16:20 kaeza you just need the code on the server side, and the sounds installed client-side 16:21 w_laenger so I could store the music of the ambience to .minetest/sounds? 16:21 TenPlus1 pretty much, yeah... and if ambiance is looking for a specific filename it'll load it from that directory 1st 16:21 kaeza yes, and only install the actual code of the mod in the server 16:22 w_laenger thanks 16:22 Krock w_laenger, afaik, you are able to store sounds.. 16:22 Krock Forum missing: Sound Packs 16:22 Krock :) 16:23 kaeza Krock, 302 xyz 16:23 TenPlus1 I still wish Minetest would use .mod extensions also for music... they are a lot smaller than .ogg music files 16:23 Krock kaeza, 200 16:23 kaeza :P 16:23 Krock ^^ 16:23 w_laenger and .it and .midi 16:23 Krock .rmi 16:24 Piggybear87 Is there a special order to add the cmake options, or can I just add them when I find ones I want? 16:24 w_laenger with the connected glass clean glass looks much cleaner 16:24 Krock hmm..there's dirty glass missing 16:25 TenPlus1 w_laenger: which mod ? am using framedglass for connected coloured glass 16:25 Krock Piggybear87, settings are settings. order is irrelevant 16:25 Piggybear87 10-4 16:25 Krock s/order/sort 16:25 kaeza you got it right the first time 16:25 w_laenger the connected_textures mod 16:26 TenPlus1 hrm, gotta check that one out... sounds interesting 16:26 Vazon Piggybear87 if you join now i can grant you your privs 16:26 kaeza join now! only 4.99! 16:26 * kaeza runs 16:26 Piggybear87 Do I put a comma or anything to seperate the options? Ir just a space? 16:26 Piggybear87 Vazon, I'm making a new client atm. 16:27 kaeza aaaanyway, I'm running out of energy 16:27 kaeza off to bed --> 16:27 Krock hmm not sure if I could run the minetest + -server on one PC without risking a server crash 16:27 Jordach Jordach.cooking_skill = Jordach.cooking_skill + 1 16:27 * asl like .midi :D 16:27 Krock +s 16:27 kaeza +1 16:27 Krock Jordach, made some pancakes? 16:27 TenPlus1 lol 16:28 Krock Jordach.cooking_skill = 9000 16:28 Jordach Krock, made a lovely Chicken Korma with Pilau rice 16:28 Krock Jordach, ooh YUMMY 16:28 Krock Jordach.cooking_skill += 1 16:28 Piggybear87 Anyone? I know you all know... Lol. 16:29 Krock Piggybear87, what do I know? 16:29 Piggybear87 How do I space cmake options? Just a space, a comma, a slash? 16:29 Krock hmm I used \n when I tried to compile them 16:29 TenPlus1 bye folks... 16:29 Krock bye 10+1 16:30 PilzAdam print(Jordach.cooking_skill) 16:30 MinetestBot -12 16:30 Krock 9001 16:30 Krock lol 16:30 w_laenger just a 16:30 w_laenger but I don't know exatly 16:31 Vazon ok Piggybear 16:31 Krock print(4096 - PilzAdam.forum_posts) 16:31 MinetestBot no 16:32 Krock y no? 16:32 w_laenger when I'm sleeping my dreams about minetest are weird 16:32 Krock print(y no) 16:33 Krock w_laenger, I know those nightmares when ponies destroy the voxel based twin towers 16:33 w_laenger no, the pony didn't join the game 16:34 Krock did it time out? or was it conneciton reset by peer? 16:34 * Piggybear87 wishies there was a way to self compile with his options, and still be able to use software updater to update Minetest. 16:34 w_laenger imagine you're building on your singleplayer world and suddenly someone joins the game 16:34 Krock Piggybear87, I'd like to compile too :( 16:35 w_laenger and this person starts grieving 16:35 Piggybear87 Why don't you? 16:35 Krock Piggybear87, ask that the 1337 errors 16:35 Krock w_laenger, uh not nice. must be a very bad nightmare 16:35 Piggybear87 Did you follow the readme? 16:36 Krock Piggybear87, readme? 16:36 Piggybear87 https://github.com/minetest/minetest all the way at the bottom. 16:36 w_laenger yes, there were a lot of people joining that I wasn't longer able to kick them 16:36 Krock ./ctcp Krock version 16:37 w_laenger and they used the rocked launcher, which doesn't use minetest.is_protected yet, to destroy my buildings 16:37 w_laenger bye 16:38 Krock Piggybear87, followed such a guide like 1000000000 times. (okay a bit too high number - just showing up, it was many times) 16:38 Krock gonna try it the 1000000001 time in 4 days 16:39 Piggybear87 I have no problems with that readme. 16:40 Krock Piggybear87, Linux 3.13.0-29-generic, that's your antiproblem 16:41 Piggybear87 It doesn't have an OS for you. 16:41 Piggybear87 What does the option USE_GPROF do? 16:42 Krock WINNT32 5.1 && 6 16:42 Krock Enable profiling using GProf 16:42 Krock ^ Piggybear87 16:42 Piggybear87 What does that do? 16:42 Krock no idea :3 16:42 Krock maybe some debug things 16:42 asl that's a profiler setting iirc 16:42 Krock omg srsly 16:43 Krock Ih Ydrawnebur 16:43 Piggybear87 asl, What does it do? Lol. 16:43 asl it should be off if you don't use it 16:43 asl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiling_(computer_programming) 16:43 Krock diagnostics 16:44 Piggybear87 OK, don't need it. 16:44 Piggybear87 asl, You self compile, correct? 16:44 asl yup 16:44 asl i just `cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DENABLE_CURL=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_GLES=1 -DENABLE_SOUND=1 -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0` then `make` then `su` then finally `make install` 16:44 Krock linux user ^ 16:44 rubenwardy I hate how you can not jump and place blocks below you 16:45 rubenwardy and, Hi All! 16:45 Krock Ih Ydrawnebur 16:45 asl lol, reverse 16:46 Krock omg that speed 16:46 asl i used to reading in reverse, it isn't that hard tbh 16:47 Krock Woh Emoc? 16:48 Piggybear87 Does this look OK? 16:48 Piggybear87 cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 DENABLE_CURL=1 DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 DENABLE_SOUND=1 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release DBUILD_CLIENT=1 DBUILD_SERVER=1 16:48 PilzAdam Piggybear87, you are missing some - there 16:48 Piggybear87 I see that now. Lol. 16:48 Piggybear87 But other than that? 16:48 Krock Piggybear87, sound is useless on server 16:48 Krock wait 16:48 Piggybear87 But I'm making a client also. 16:48 Krock client too 16:48 Krock nvm 16:49 PilzAdam Krock, sound is not useless on client 16:49 Krock PilzAdam, I haven't read it all - saw it just now 16:49 PilzAdam yes 16:49 PilzAdam I'm still making fun of you for not being able to read 16:49 Krock read...what? 16:50 asl you don't need to type the last two, the build client/server 16:50 Piggybear87 other than the - is everything correct? I've never done this with options. 16:50 Piggybear87 OK. 16:50 Krock on forums, everything which has more than 20 lines to read is counted as TL;DR 16:50 Krock ^ general speedup reading forums 16:51 PilzAdam Piggybear87, the last 4 options you have there are the default values 16:51 * sfan5 meows at Krock 16:51 * Krock meows at sfan5 16:51 Piggybear87 leveldb isn't default. 16:51 Krock eh 16:52 Krock counting plz 16:52 PilzAdam ^ 16:53 Piggybear87 Last 4 are freetype, leveldb, sound, and built type. 16:53 Krock We're talking about your message you sent here 16:53 Krock cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 DENABLE_CURL=1 DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 DENABLE_SOUND=1 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release DBUILD_CLIENT=1 DBUILD_SERVER=1 16:53 asl lol 16:54 Piggybear87 Oh. I forgot I didn't copy/paste the updated one. 16:54 Krock ^ 16:54 Piggybear87 Whelp, hitting enter. Let's see what happens... 16:55 PilzAdam a CMakeCache.txt gets generated 16:55 Piggybear87 Now the wait... 16:55 PilzAdam you can change all the options inside that too 16:55 Piggybear87 Oh. Didn't know that. 16:55 * Krock points at http*://*paste*.* for messages.Split('n').Length > 4 16:56 PilzAdam Krock, why not http?:// 16:56 Krock PilzAdam, cuz not real regex 16:57 Krock confict with http*://google.*/?search=* 16:57 Krock ^ PilzAdam 16:58 Krock s/?search/search?q= 16:58 Krock such code 16:58 PilzAdam https://ixquick.com/do/search?query= is easier 16:59 PilzAdam also you should always use https if available 16:59 * Krock slaps PilzAdam with duckduckgo 16:59 Krock not all https are really secure 16:59 * Krock points at bleadbeed (ignore typos) 16:59 * PilzAdam slaps Krock with http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/ 17:00 * Krock slaps PilzAdam with Der Server unter www.3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion konnte nicht gefunden werden. 17:00 * PilzAdam slaps Krock with The Onion Router 17:00 Piggybear87 All this violence! 17:00 * Krock slaps PilzAdam with classic modem/router connection 17:01 * PilzAdam ??? 17:01 * Krock ?! 17:01 Piggybear87 The slapping. 17:01 PilzAdam https://ixquick.com/do/search?query=The+Onion+Router 17:01 * Krock slaps Piggybear87 for not slapping 17:01 * asl slaps Krock with next.duckduckgo 17:02 * Krock slaps PilzAdam with 01,04TL;DR 17:02 Piggybear87 http://www.trade2win.com/boards/attachments/first-steps/147678d1350597443-official-question-slap-goptions-thread-slap.jpg 17:02 khonkhortisan cool special character highlighting 17:02 khonkhortisan Only some operating systems use TL;DR as a line ending. Most use just TL or DR. 17:02 * Krock slaps 06,13khonkhortisan 17:02 khonkhortisan aah, purple! 17:03 * Krock gives khonkhortisan nr 17:04 khonkhortisan LF+CR (Acorn BBC and RISC OS) appears to be dead. 17:05 * Krock gives khonkhortisan a MS-DOS 7.11 floppy 17:07 Piggybear87 I think I did something wrong. It's compiling faster than normal.. 17:07 asl lol, why is that something wrong? 17:07 khonkhortisan Maybe you changed one of the last files to compile, instead of one of the first 17:08 Piggybear87 Like maybe I forgot something. 17:08 asl did you make clean before make? 17:08 Piggybear87 Huh? 17:08 khonkhortisan It's wrong because you can't do this http://xkcd.com/303/ 17:08 Krock Piggybear87, don't worry. be happy 17:08 Krock +1 17:09 Piggybear87 khonkhortisan, Lmfao. 17:09 asl `make clean` clear the files from the last time you build 17:10 Piggybear87 Did not know I had to do that. 17:10 asl if you didn't clean, it will reuse the old/outdated files from the last build 17:10 Piggybear87 So I just eff up my build? 17:10 khonkhortisan Sometimes an update will break something that requires a make clean to fix 17:10 asl maybe 17:11 * khonkhortisan waves his hands at asl 17:11 Piggybear87 If it did, I'm gonna use Windows laatest on Wine. I give up compiling... 17:11 Piggybear87 Latest* 17:11 asl just make clean then make again lol 17:11 Krock this lol too http://xkcd.com/737/ 17:12 khonkhortisan eew 17:13 Calinou it's take-sounds-from-OpenArena-for-use-in-Carbone time! 17:13 * Calinou opens archive manager 17:14 Krock http://xkcd.com/94/ 17:14 PilzAdam Krock, thanks for playing the random button on xkcd for us 17:14 Krock PilzAdam, np. 17:15 khonkhortisan oh THAT random button 17:15 Piggybear87 Gotta run for a bit. Bye. 17:15 khonkhortisan Be careful with that, there're some bad ones in there. 17:19 Krock Krock.Web("xkcd.com").Random() -> http://xkcd.com/945/ 17:22 Megaf_ Hi LazyJ, any idea o how to change default LevelDB options? 17:22 Megaf_ on how* 17:24 Krock wow: http://xkcd.com/681_large/ 17:25 Tesseract require'socket.http'.request('http://xkcd.com/'..math.random(1, 1337)) 17:25 LazyJ Megaf_, sorrr, I don't have a clue. 17:25 Tesseract ^ That should fetch a random xkcd article. 17:25 Megaf_ LazyJ: heh, me neither 17:25 Tesseract <3 Lua(Socket) 17:25 Calinou heh, ShadowNinja using the name Tesseract again 17:26 Krock */#@+# Lua(Socket) 17:26 * Tesseract stabs Krock 17:26 * Krock gives R 17:26 Krock eh 17:26 Krock enter came too early 17:27 LazyJ Time to reboot. 17:37 LemonLake to much protocol 17:43 Calinou 999 rats, 35-40 FPS with good settings: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/WYhmYyfyxOp-.jpg 17:43 Calinou (-: 17:44 Krock <3 http://xkcd.com/627/ 17:44 Krock Calinou, lucky you. I could dream of having _not_ a system freeze 17:45 Krock but eww, they're dirty 17:46 rubenwardy !title https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/5504537 17:46 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Craft recipe checker for Minetest 17:47 Megaf_ I'm wondering, would it me too hard to make the players head follow mouse input? 17:48 rubenwardy See forum topics 17:49 rubenwardy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edzDAH6-WQU 17:49 Calinou Megaf_, you mean, visible pitch in third person? 17:49 Calinou players would need to send their pitch: fairly large C++ change 17:49 Calinou Krock, successfully ran clearobjects in 1-2 miniutes 17:49 Calinou minutes* 17:49 Megaf_ Calinou: I mean, head will move according to where the player is looking 17:49 Calinou game uses 400MB of RAM 17:49 Calinou Megaf_, vertically? then see what I said… 17:50 Calinou horizontally? why? 17:50 Megaf_ both, like in MC :) 17:50 Tesseract Megaf_: kaeza did that with a mod. But it used loads of network and was jumpy becuase Irrlicht was missing a needed feature. 17:51 Megaf_ hm 17:52 Calinou Megaf_, horizontal would be very complicated, you would likely need to separate head and body models 17:54 Tesseract Megaf_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edzDAH6-WQU 17:54 Krock Calinou, 1.5 mins for 1000 objects? that's slow when you've got 40FPS 17:54 Tesseract The previous tries are very funny. ;-) 17:55 Calinou Krock, I didn't measure exact time 17:58 Calinou found a way to make 3D torches that work well 17:59 asie woo! 17:59 Krock asie, need an adventure? do it like those guys: http://xkcd.com/461/ 17:59 Mikerhinos hi 18:00 asie Krock: nah 18:00 asie making gnupod work with my music collection was enough of an adventure 18:00 Calinou hi asie 18:01 asie hi Calinou 18:02 Mikerhinos spent a week on Rust, now back on MT, because I'm tired of bugs and immature players :) 18:03 Megaf_ Tesseract: that kinda works 18:03 Calinou Mikerhinos, try latest Carbone :D 18:03 Calinou hi john_minetest 18:03 Calinou tons of new stuff 18:04 Calinou (and I'm doing cosmetic changes right now) 18:09 PilzAdam D: imgs.xkcd.com is down 18:11 PilzAdam *was 18:14 PenguinDad http://xkcd.com/1056/ lol 18:14 * Jordach wonders why they don't make double bladed windmills 18:15 Jordach that have the normal Y shape at front, and an upside down Y at the back 18:15 Jordach making a total of six blades for less space 18:31 Jordach john_minetest, i didn't mean a pole a mill 18:31 Jordach i meant literally one behind the first 18:31 Jordach normal windmill with a longer nose 18:32 Vazon !up oldcoder.org 30012 18:32 MinetestBot oldcoder.org:30012 seems to be down 18:38 Krock A must-have-seen: http://what-if.xkcd.com/55/ 18:40 Calinou finally got 3D torches one 18:41 Calinou wasn't easy ;) 18:49 Krock "1.875 terawatts is like a house-sized stack of TNT going off every second." - xkcd 18:58 PenguinDad https://soundcloud.com/glitchhop/k-theory-things-i-like-to-do-tut-tut-child-remix-edmcom-premiere <3 19:05 Piggybear87 Back. 19:06 Piggybear87 Is there any way to speed up mapgen (without buying a new machine)? 19:06 WindHero hmm 19:07 Piggybear87 I thought LevelDB would help, but it's about the same speed. 19:07 WindHero reduce other calculations going on at the same time 19:07 Piggybear87 Like what? 19:07 WindHero have nothing else open, and have the graphics settings real low 19:07 WindHero like, 2D clouds, non-smooth lighting 19:08 PenguinDad Piggybear87: try singlenode mapgen :P 19:08 WindHero rofl 19:08 Piggybear87 No... Lol. And most of my setting ARE the low ones. 19:09 WindHero ouch 19:09 WindHero what is your mapgen time? 19:10 Piggybear87 I don't know how to tell, I just know I run into unloaded chunk walls constantly. 19:11 WindHero what mods are installed? 19:11 WindHero ABMs and other modifiers active will all have to finish before mapgen starts loading new chunks 19:12 PenguinDad Cool I get Serialization Errors on Krock's Server https://dpaste.de/Q9SM 19:12 Piggybear87 Quite a few, but none are running (they are activated, but I haven't placed anything). 19:13 jp____ Hello again. I search a solution to rotate a WorldEdit's position, but it doesn't work with the screwdriver : http://i.imgur.com/ieAY8Gp.jpg 19:13 jp____ Anyone can help me plz ? 19:14 Calinou hi jp____ :) 19:14 Calinou there's //rotate command 19:14 Calinou /rotate : Rotate the current WorldEdit selection around the by angle (90 degree increment) 19:15 jp____ "//rotate" is only when pos1 & pos2 are placed... 19:15 jp____ (but not sure) 19:16 jp____ Yes, I confirm : we have to select a region to use //rotate. 19:16 jp____ So : pos1 and pos2 placed. 19:16 Calinou place both //pos1 and pos2 19:16 jp____ I only want the pos1 rotated. 19:17 jp____ It will more easier... 19:17 PenguinDad //rotate doesn't do facedir rotations IIRC 19:17 jp____ I can't so ? 19:18 Calinou you need to specify what you rotate: that's why you need 2 points and not just one 19:18 WindHero ...minetest.rotate()? 19:19 jp____ I have to import a big structure and pay attention to roads/buildings... not easy with two positions. 19:43 RealNero Ello 19:44 RealNero Fine ignore me, gosh 19:44 * nman3600 has returned 19:44 RealNero wb 19:49 Sokomine schematics can be rotated as well. that's very helpful 19:50 Sokomine btw...regarding the question about village names i posted...which names do village names follow in your respective countries? 19:50 Sokomine (that is, if you happen to have villages) 19:50 nman3600 Sokomine Hi didn't realize you were not idle :-) 19:52 Sokomine i was building. when i do so, i seldom manage to read the chat in time. so hi over here :-) 19:52 jp____ You build where, Sokomine ? 19:53 nman3600 Who wants to hear my new forum signature? 19:55 Calinou hear? 19:55 Sokomine jp: it's a building in progress on krocks server. the server is down in the evening/at night, so it's a slow process. i love the darkage sandstonebrick texture it has 19:56 nman3600 Calinou: Well who wants to know my new forum signature 19:56 nman3600 either check my forum user or ask me and i'll say here 19:58 Sokomine any snowy regions available? it's still so hot here :-( 19:58 nman3600 Sokomine go to the north pole 19:58 nman3600 My new forum signature is: It's really rude to talk while i'm interrupting 19:58 jp____ Ok, I will take a look soon ;) 19:59 Sokomine and if your interruption is interrupted? :) 19:59 Calinou making items sink slowly in water :D 19:59 nman3600 i'd say It's really rude to interrupt while i'm interrupting 20:00 jp____ Stop ganja. 20:01 Firebat Does this cool project risk being lawsuited by Mojang? 20:01 sfan5 Firebat: why would it? 20:01 nman3600 sfan5: meow 20:01 Firebat I don't know, I read about it on a forum and someone replied it could happen. 20:02 nman3600 Firebat: It bloody better not be. 20:02 Firebat I hope so. :) 20:02 nman3600 Minetest is the closest to minecraft I can get. 20:03 PilzAdam Firebat, yes, they can sue us for using blocks 20:03 PilzAdam Mojang has a patent on blocks 20:03 nman3600 PilzAdam That's the stupidest thing to sue someone for lol 20:03 sfan5 Mojang has a patent on blocks 20:03 sfan5 :D 20:04 * Sokomine throws a free irony-detector at nman :-) 20:05 nman3600 If anyone has a suggestion for my pretty much dead mod "multitest" (no one cares about it) Join #multitest or put it in the comment bit on my mod (I am trying not to advertise but I really don't want multitest to die because i've gave up on all my other mods) 20:06 nman3600 Woo, That took a while to type! 20:07 Sokomine what does multitest do again? 20:08 Calinou item sinking speed is exactly the same as player sinking speed, in water :D 20:08 nman3600 Sokomine: At the moment it adds shears and decoration blocks a bit like in Darkage. 20:12 jp____ Question about WE : when you 9 nodes aligned, how do to copy these 9 nodes until 100 nodes on x axis ? Because when I try "//copy x 100", these 9 nodes are copied *only* 100 nodes further on the axis, and not 0 to 100. 20:12 jp____ when you have* 20:18 nman3600 hi i'm back 20:18 Calinou https://mediacru.sh/wXWaBQaeM-jw 20:20 * nman3600 is currently not on his pc 20:22 Calinou hi nman3600 20:23 * sfan5 meows at nman3600 20:23 sfan5 Calinou: that block is too big IMO 20:24 Calinou I was very close to it 20:25 Calinou https://mediacru.sh/LG5tVssz2yVh 20:25 Calinou 3D torches ^ 20:26 Calinou uses wallmounted nodebox, 1 texture for top, 1 texture for bottom, 1 texture for sides (for all torches) 20:30 nore jp____, //stack x 100 20:30 jp____ Great :) Thanks alot ! 20:34 Jordach hey PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=144307#p144307 20:37 Jordach Piggybear87, check yer topic 20:38 Calinou found a better way to make items behave in water… they float around :d 20:39 Jordach WTF 20:40 Jordach why is my keyboard in en_US mode again 20:40 Jordach brb 20:43 markveidemanis Good |time_zone_greeting| everyone! 20:45 Calinou night 20:52 Jordach sometimes when playing either Skyrim or Mirror's Edge, my keyboard switches to the US Layout 20:54 Jordach >[21:54:07] *** sapier joined the game 20:54 Jordach HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM 20:54 Jordach android testing much :P 20:59 Jordach TIL [21:51:06] Jordach: I got your big freaking dig game today I love it. 21:12 Vazon Minerealms, Landrush and Antomicon servers are now back up. 21:14 markveidemanis s/Atomicon/MarkTwain :P 21:15 markveidemanis Atomicon == old /etc/hostname 21:17 markveidemanis Vazon, Also *Atomicon 21:17 markveidemanis -n 21:18 markveidemanis Atom[domain taken so add]icon 21:18 Vazon sorry about that :P 21:18 markveidemanis ;P 21:18 markveidemanis OC spelled it wrong to once 21:18 Vazon mark are people timing out on your server? 21:18 markveidemanis Atomiocon 21:18 markveidemanis Actually rather nice name 21:18 markveidemanis Atomiocon 21:20 WindHero Atomicon is better :P 21:20 Vazon lol 21:20 WindHero although I can't help but pronounce it wrong 21:20 Jordach Atominomicon 21:21 * Jordach runs away 21:21 * WindHero runs with him 21:23 markveidemanis Say Atom 21:23 markveidemanis Now see that thing in the bottom left corner of your desktop Jordach? 21:23 markveidemanis It's disgraceful 21:24 markveidemanis It's Bill's Icon 21:24 WindHero that's why I use Win8: you don't see that icon in the corner :P 21:25 markveidemanis You should update to 8.1 and the bastard will be back 21:26 markveidemanis FYI DO NOT UPGRADE 21:26 markveidemanis That's about it that changed 21:26 WindHero I've had the option for a few months 21:26 WindHero still haven't 21:26 markveidemanis I hate life without windows 21:26 WindHero at least Win8 is faster than Win7 21:26 WindHero can't say too much else 21:26 markveidemanis It's fucking freezing 21:27 markveidemanis Yeah, a lot 21:27 markveidemanis Then I come along with linux and laugh 21:27 markveidemanis Loudly 21:27 WindHero now for a semi-orginal pun on Windows 21:27 markveidemanis Well... 21:27 WindHero the problem with opening Windows is that you let bugs in 21:28 markveidemanis Lol true 21:28 WindHero I once read a similar joke that was much better :/ 21:28 markveidemanis Me too 21:28 markveidemanis Hey remember WIndows Doors? 21:28 markveidemanis That game 21:28 markveidemanis Had Twatter and Poogle 21:29 markveidemanis On newgrounds I think 21:29 WindHero nope 21:29 markveidemanis http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/512482 21:30 markveidemanis This was at least 3 years ago I last played this 21:30 markveidemanis About 5 years ago I played tower defence :P 21:30 markveidemanis defence? defense? 21:30 markveidemanis defence 21:31 * markveidemanis waits to be corrected and feels like a spammer ^.^ 21:31 m5 That'll stop me wasting so much space 21:31 m5 * home/mark/atomicon_game/mods/tweaks/inventory_plus/textures/inventory_plus_home_gui.png :Unknown command 21:31 m5 Lol I hate that 21:32 WindHero *defense* 21:32 WindHero unless you're talking about removing a fence... 21:32 * m5 feels bad 21:33 WindHero :o 21:33 m5 I meant to de-fence 21:33 m5 Too many damn things 21:33 m5 I mean, you can still jump them 21:33 m5 Useless 21:33 WindHero totally 21:33 * m5 feels like Dr Zoidberg for some reason 21:34 m5 I've got 6 hours to live 21:34 m5 and 56 mins 21:34 m5 I'm guessing ~80% 21:35 m5 \me stops spamming 21:35 * m5 stops spamming (Lied the last time) 21:35 WindHero :P 21:35 WindHero has anyone ever made a mod to create large underground caverns? 21:36 m5 Yes 21:36 m5 Paramat 21:36 m5 All his mods 21:36 m5 I just said yes instinctively then the answer came to me 21:36 WindHero I mean like city-size 21:36 m5 Oh god I started again 21:36 m5 City size? 21:36 m5 I'm sure if you play with the settings 21:36 WindHero yeh 21:36 m5 That can happen 21:37 m5 You want to increase the range of occurences along the Y axis as well as the size of the caves 21:37 WindHero I was asking more because I'm considering making a mod for that from scratch 21:37 m5 Or good ol worledeit 21:37 m5 Ah 21:37 m5 No idea 21:37 m5 I was going to google something but forgot now 21:38 m5 mktk.tk 5004 "* We don't take kindly to your types around here!" 21:38 WindHero Google "What was it I was going to google that I forgot?" 21:38 WindHero chances are, it'll find that too :P 21:39 m5 Lol 21:39 FlyingPandas_ Hello? 21:39 m5 No 21:39 m5 I thought webchat was banned 21:39 FlyingPandas_ ? 21:39 WindHero no, only on the dev channel 21:40 m5 *!*@*/web/freenode* 21:40 m5 *!*@gateway/web/freenode* 21:40 WindHero you know, if that's the way it gets banned.... 21:40 m5 Lol 21:40 WindHero people can just use Mibbit xP 21:40 m5 *!*@*web* 21:40 m5 xP?? 21:40 m5 You disgust me 21:40 WindHero more likely 21:41 WindHero I don't try to :P 21:41 * m5 finds closest freenode server 21:41 m5 xD 21:41 m5 Windows xD 21:41 PilzAdam webchat isnt banned on dev channel, just muted 21:41 m5 WHy not here? 21:41 WindHero oh yeah.... 21:41 m5 lol *!*@gateway/* 21:42 WindHero because so many people don't want to download a dedicated client 21:42 WindHero but still play Minetest or make mods 21:42 WindHero and want help. 21:42 WindHero (there's a freaking link on minetest.net that goes to here through freenode) 21:43 m5 I don't even know 21:43 m5 https://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml 21:43 WindHero webchat isn't evil, it's just more likely to attract less... informed people. 21:43 m5 Netherlands netherlands 21:43 m5 Region: Zuid-Holland [LINEBREAK]City: Delft 21:43 WindHero yes, freenode is Netherlands based 21:44 m5 Lol which server is closer? 21:44 WindHero not relevant 21:44 WindHero the distances make little differnce unless they were in different countries 21:45 m5 What's the 2 letter code for Netherlands/Germany? 21:46 * m5 feels bad 21:46 m5 NL 21:46 m5 That's orwell.freenode.net 21:46 * m5 skips servers 21:48 WindHero .de 21:48 WindHero mark: .de 21:48 WindHero for Germany 21:48 markveidemanis Back 21:48 m5 Me on orwell now 21:49 m5 Where is chanserv? 21:49 WindHero present 21:49 m5 lol 21:49 m5 *serv is erronenous 21:50 WindHero http://www.freesound.org/people/-Hero_of_the_Winds-/ 21:50 m5 Don't you think ircd-seven is pretty bad? 21:50 WindHero ^My humble little collection 21:50 m5 That is sound 21:50 m5 If that scares me 21:50 m5 I will scream 21:50 m5 You will hear me 21:51 * m5 needs sleep 21:51 WindHero lol 21:51 Jordach >sleep 21:51 Jordach it's 11pm 21:51 Jordach i can go until 3 30am 21:52 WindHero I used to put up with this until halfway through high school: http://www.freesound.org/people/-Hero_of_the_Winds-/sounds/127902/ 21:52 m5 Grr 21:52 m5 Jordach always lets us know what he/she's doing: 2244 actions! 21:52 * m5 so deserves that 21:52 * Jordach wins at thta 21:52 m5 Poor Jordach 21:52 * m5 has memory foam :P 21:52 * Jordach too 21:53 Jordach except nobody here can DJ Hero better than me 21:53 * WindHero is puzzled by the /me spam 21:53 m5 Doesn't sound like an aircraft carrier every time I get on now 21:53 kat_ guys, I cleaned installed my computer with Linux Lite. 21:53 * m5 wants to... I see what you did there 21:53 m5 kat_, Linux Lite?? 21:53 Jordach https://www.linuxliteos.com/ 21:53 WindHero Jordach: can you Fire Emblem? 21:54 kat_ I got Minetest out of the synaptic package and it downloaded fine. But I can't get the mod store to come up. It goes completely off. 21:54 Jordach kat_, modstore has always been broken 21:54 m5 Mine too 21:54 Jordach use the PPA or self compil;e 21:54 m5 COmpi.. That^^ 21:54 kat_ I mean the game goes completely off. ohhhh so how do I get mods? 21:55 m5 The proper way 21:55 WindHero manual download from the forums 21:55 m5 AKA the proper way 21:55 * m5 says the proper way the third time 21:55 m5 Wait what Is that title based on? 21:55 m5 X always lets us know what he/she is doing 21:55 WindHero a proper English accent 21:56 Jordach kat_, you can install mods into ~/.minetest/mods/ from the forums 21:56 * m5 has a proper english BREAD 21:56 Jordach ~ is assuming you are at /home/username 21:56 * m5 really must go to bed now 21:56 kat_ oh good thanks 21:56 Jordach HOWEVER 21:56 Jordach you need to enable the mods PER WORLD. 21:56 * m5 brings up a shell and pings google 21:56 WindHero goodnight then, m5 21:56 * m5 pings google with tor :P 21:58 * m5 has ip 96.47.226.22 21:58 m5 86.142.*.* 21:58 m5 gtg 22:12 Vazon ShadowNinja are you around? 23:22 shadowzone hi. 23:27 Exio4 hihi 23:58 sweBers Good evening! Anyone available for a quick question about mod libraries? 23:58 Exio4 just ask it and then someone will answer 23:59 sweBers Ah, good. not a dead channel!