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01:31 hoodedice Do you have your android port somewhere?
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01:55 WindHero is there a way to determine chunk edges in-game?
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01:57 kahrl WindHero: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1285
01:58 WindHero ah
01:58 WindHero I meant through code
01:59 kahrl you shouldn't need to worry about it in lua
01:59 WindHero I'm getting some crazy stuff using voxelmanip
02:00 WindHero using the player's spawn position as a center
02:00 WindHero except for any blocks I add with the LVM, the whole chunk is empty
02:01 kahrl maybe you're not accounting for the fact that the LVM can be bigger than requested
02:01 kahrl but you shouldn't try to work around this by calculating mapblock boundaries
02:01 kahrl fix the bug instead ;)
02:02 VanessaE evening kahrl
02:02 kahrl hi VanessaE
02:03 VanessaE kahrl: since you seem to know a bit about vmanip, you got any idea why this would happen?
02:03 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2290&p=142223#p142223
02:03 VanessaE (can't be a bug in my code, I don't use that feature)
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02:05 kahrl VanessaE: I guess paramat knows them better than I do :)
02:05 kahrl but he's got no idea either
02:05 WindHero I think that's the problem
02:05 kahrl tried to ask hmmmm?
02:06 WindHero I using the regular Vmanip rather than the mapgen object vmanip
02:06 VanessaE I haven't seen hmmmm yet to ask him
02:06 WindHero so it functions differently
02:07 Megaf_ folks, unified inventory is crashing my server a lot http://paste.debian.net/101509/
02:07 VanessaE WindHero: can you elaborate?
02:07 WindHero basically, since I need to know where the players spawn upon joining the server
02:07 VanessaE Megaf_: is your copy of the datastorage mod up-to-date?
02:07 VanessaE afaik UI needs it
02:08 Megaf_ I never added this mod here
02:08 WindHero I have a function called during minetest.register_on_newplayer
02:08 VanessaE oh wait, you're talking about the issue you were trying to solve, derp :)
02:08 Megaf_ problem is, unified_inventory didnt use to store data on the worlds folder
02:08 WindHero that calls a voxelmanip to generate a spacecraft
02:08 VanessaE Megaf_: hm, ok.  I've never had it crash before
02:09 WindHero so I'm using:
02:09 WindHero minetest.get_voxel_manip()
02:09 WindHero instead of
02:09 Megaf_ than one day, sundely, a lot of files apperead on the worlds folder and I deleted them all
02:09 WindHero minetest.get_mapgen_object("voxelmanip")
02:10 VanessaE Megaf_: in other words, you have a corrupt database in your world folder that UI needs
02:10 kahrl WindHero: can you pastebin the whole code?
02:10 WindHero sure
02:10 kahrl the voxelmanip part I mean
02:10 Megaf_ yep, it started to flood my world folder with unkown files
02:11 VanessaE Megaf_: file this as a bug report against unified invntory
02:11 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory
02:11 VanessaE Megaf_: but ultimately you have a corrupt UI waypoints database
02:11 WindHero http://pastebin.com/ucYtxxab
02:11 WindHero kahrl ^
02:12 WindHero almost the whole code is voxelmanip
02:12 WindHero since I have this loaded in a dofile in init
02:14 Megaf_ VanessaE; bye the way, this mod is one of the reasons my server slowed down
02:15 Megaf_ https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11
02:16 VanessaE very strange
02:16 VanessaE I've never had UI do stuff like that to my servers
02:17 Megaf_ My, my server crashes every time I join now, or anyone that used that mod
02:17 VanessaE but bear this in mind:
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02:17 VanessaE writing to a memory card, even an SD card, is slow.
02:17 VanessaE so anything that creates lots of files is gonna slow your machine down on that odroid
02:17 Megaf_ VanessaE; It didnt use to slow now, thats from 4 days to now
02:18 VanessaE nevermind if it causes a large CPU load - I'm just talking about I/O speed.  even on very FAST machines, SD cards can be slow.
02:18 VanessaE also:
02:18 VanessaE copy the paste into the bug report
02:18 VanessaE don't link to it
02:18 VanessaE I'll fix it.
02:19 Megaf_ fix what? let me paste on the right place
02:19 VanessaE there.
02:19 VanessaE reload the page
02:19 Megaf_ yep, thanks
02:19 VanessaE it's a good idea to actually paste the text into the report, because pastebin links sometimes expire
02:21 Megaf_ VanessaE; so, as a workaround I will save the unified_inventory folder to a safe place and get a new clone of it
02:21 kahrl WindHero: dunno, the code seems fine to me
02:21 VanessaE yes, re-clone it, and check if any of those data storage files have become corrupted
02:21 WindHero precisely...
02:21 WindHero maybe it's because it's so close to runtime
02:22 VanessaE same way you'd check for corrupted player files - move half of them out, check for crashes, bisect, repeat.
02:22 Megaf_ VanessaE; I deleted all thos datastorage files
02:22 Megaf_ thats whats causing the crashes
02:22 Megaf_ I believe
02:23 Megaf_ at least homes are saved on a single file
02:23 WindHero this is what it looks like: http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/Phantom1714/screenshot_632701280.png
02:24 Megaf_ VanessaE; anyway, should I get the datastorage mod?
02:24 VanessaE Megaf_: no
02:24 VanessaE I guess it's not needed
02:24 Megaf_ I never used it and its not on depends
02:24 VanessaE now move some of those data storage files back in
02:25 VanessaE say 5 letters of the alpha at a time. A-E, check for crashes, F-I, and keep doing that
02:26 Megaf_ VanessaE; the UI looks really different now
02:26 VanessaE define "different"
02:26 VanessaE the icon images?
02:26 VanessaE :)
02:26 Megaf_ yes
02:26 Megaf_ all of them
02:26 * VanessaE <--- my doing.
02:26 Megaf_ oh
02:26 VanessaE new imagery was needed to handle these high-def "retina" screens some folks are using
02:27 Megaf_ they dont look very nice on this crappy 1080p res...
02:27 VanessaE so I did up some high-detail 128px icons, but had to seek out new source imagery
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02:27 Megaf_ ok
02:27 Megaf_ So I think is just a matter of getting used to them
02:28 Megaf_ they are actually nice
02:29 Megaf_ VanessaE; server is fast again...
02:29 Megaf_ the new git clone done the trick
02:29 VanessaE with UI?
02:29 VanessaE oh good
02:30 Megaf_ the "feel" is of no lag
02:30 Megaf_ !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
02:30 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (843ms)
02:31 VanessaE Megaf_:  https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11#issuecomment-44075450
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02:36 Megaf_ VanessaE; How do I format it like you did?
02:36 Megaf_ I mean, to paste code
02:38 Megaf_ https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11#issuecomment-44075616
02:43 VanessaE Megaf_:   ```  before and again after the code
02:43 VanessaE (back-tick, next to the 1 on the top row)
02:43 VanessaE you got it
02:45 Megaf_ VanessaE; Brazilian keyboard
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02:45 Megaf_ it's shift plus ' here
02:45 Megaf_ right side of "p"
02:45 Megaf_ where you have the "["
02:46 VanessaE oh, you got one of those weird-ass keyboard ;)
02:46 VanessaE +s
02:47 Megaf_ That's my keymap http://image.made-in-china.com/46f35j00tEatGJTWdQif/ABNT2-Keyboard-Layout.jpg
03:01 WindHero hmm
03:02 WindHero perhaps, if I match the values of the edges to multiples of 16...
03:04 WindHero time to use the modulus operator
03:06 Megaf_ VanessaE; hows the moretrees mod doing?
03:08 VanessaE ask zat :)
03:08 VanessaE zat: *poke*
03:09 VanessaE (he's working on mgv7 support for moretrees and/or plants_lib)
03:09 VanessaE sure hope Splizard figures out what broke in the snow mod that made it incompatible with plants_lib.
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03:28 Megaf_ VanessaE; https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11#issuecomment-44076432
03:28 Megaf_ !seen realbadangel
03:28 MinetestBot Megaf_: realbadangel was last seen at 2014-05-23 15:51:19 UTC on #minetest
03:28 Megaf_ !tell RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11#issuecomment-44076432
03:28 MinetestBot Megaf_: I'll pass that on when RealBadAngel is around
03:28 Megaf_ ~tell RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11#issuecomment-44076432
03:28 ShadowBot Megaf_: O.K.
03:29 WindHero alright
03:29 VanessaE I'll have to let RBA look into that
03:29 VanessaE that whole generic data storage mechanism left me confused before :P
03:30 VanessaE however, hdastwb is probably tihy
03:30 VanessaE right*
03:30 VanessaE damn I can't type
03:30 Megaf_ Yes he is
03:30 Megaf_ at least it makes sense
03:30 VanessaE should be an easy fix
03:32 zat est
03:32 zat wat
03:33 WindHero local mx = math.fmod(player:getpos().x, 16)
03:34 WindHero local rx = player:getpos().x + 16 - mx
03:34 WindHero local nrx = rx + 32
03:34 WindHero ^nearest two chunk boundaries near the player
03:37 * VanessaE pokes zat some more
03:37 VanessaE (just because ;) )
03:38 zat iyada
03:39 VanessaE zat: Megaf_ was asking about moretrees
03:39 VanessaE I figured you are best equipped to handle that question since you've got code in the works for it
03:39 zat I asked yesterday about some issues that I encountered but nobody has reeplied
03:39 zat I couldn't get working the idea of a lua function being called to work with mapgen.
03:40 zat I just works bad
03:42 VanessaE maybe just a bad time of day to ask is all
03:43 zat eh
03:48 VanessaE well -dev can go from <chrrrp chrrrp chrrrp> to a veritable deluge in 5 mins
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03:52 zat lmao
03:52 zat I will ask again
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03:54 Vazon_ mhmm this is a pain, i got 3d wield veiw to work with 3d armor and skins, but i cant get the 3d item to move with the hand :|
04:02 zat Vazon_: maybe take a look at how the current tool attached to the hand.
04:02 zat (I have no idea though)
04:03 Vazon_ i have been looking at the wieldview code to look for that, but it keeps buggin out. i think i may have found it
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04:07 VanessaE I liked wield3d, until it got too buggy to use
04:07 VanessaE kept leaving detached entities all over the map
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04:07 VanessaE I wish that feature could be incorporated into the client
04:09 Vazon_ VanessaE i think i got it all fixed to my version of 3d_armor and unified skins but i just can get the tool to attach
04:09 Vazon_ cant*
04:09 VanessaE Vazon_: that reminds me:  3d armor doesn't work with cheapie's creative inventory mod *pokes cheapie*
04:10 * cheapie wakes up
04:10 Vazon_ i used unified inventory.
04:10 * cheapie pokes VE back
04:10 VanessaE good morning, cheapie (you're up late)
04:10 cheapie I've actually been awake, just helping my mom with her Kindle thingy.
04:10 cheapie Anyway, just use unified_inventory.
04:11 VanessaE on Vanilla and FFA? O_o
04:11 VanessaE (well FFA anyway)
04:12 VanessaE but...tablets
04:12 cheapie Besides, this is something that needs to be done from the 3D armor side. It needs to detect my mod (can be detected by the player having the "creative" priv without unified_inv installed) and change the position of its buttons.
04:12 cheapie Sure, I could move things out of the way of it, but it would be better to do it from the 3d armor side.
04:13 Vazon_ VanessaE: http://pastebin.com/V1v1yB93 <-- This is what i have on the 3d_wieldview, do you have any idea what to add to get the items to attach to the player models?
04:13 VanessaE Vazon_: https://github.com/cheapie/mt_nostalgia/tree/master/mods/creative
04:13 VanessaE this is the mod he and I are talkign about
04:13 VanessaE can you adapt 3d_armor to this?
04:14 VanessaE and, no I haven't a clue - entity attachments confuse me :)
04:14 Vazon_ yes i have
04:15 Vazon_ would you like me to send a copy of my 3d_armor and skins files do you can test?
04:15 Vazon_ i have been testing it for about 1 hour and 45 mins
04:16 VanessaE tomorrow, after I wake up from my stupor :)
04:16 Vazon_ ok.
04:16 VanessaE (the stupor of inadequate sleep combined with a botched sleep schedule :) )
04:18 Vazon_ hrmp, sleep. I should probly get some, it's 12:17 am here
04:18 zat goodnight all
04:18 Vazon_ Night zat.
04:18 zat neeght
04:20 VanessaE good night guys
04:20 * VanessaE will hang around a bit longer
04:20 Vazon_ Night VanessaE
04:33 Megaf_ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
04:34 VanessaE now what?
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04:39 Megaf_ VanessaE; nothing
04:39 Megaf_ :)
04:40 Megaf_ i just saw that on a coment and I like it
04:40 VanessaE oh heh
04:40 VanessaE well set the damn table back upright and put everything back on it
04:40 VanessaE it's too late in the day to make messes
04:41 VanessaE :)
04:42 Megaf_ (╯^_^)/ TT
04:42 Megaf_ ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
04:42 Megaf_ better?
04:44 Megaf_ ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
04:44 VanessaE better.
04:44 Megaf_ http://tableflipping.com/ such flipping, very table, wow!
04:57 Megaf_ VanessaE; a baby seal, ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ
04:58 Megaf_ [^._.^]ノ彡
04:58 Megaf_ heh
04:58 MegAFK Gonna try to get some sleep
04:58 MegAFK maybe
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05:24 cxclaim7193 hi
05:24 cxclaim7193 hmm
05:25 cxclaim7193 Minetest looks unfinished...
05:25 VanessaE not at all
05:26 VanessaE you didn't play the "minimal" game did you?
05:26 cxclaim7193 no, i think
05:27 VanessaE Try one of these games using the Minetest engine:
05:27 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9033
05:27 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=9196
05:27 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9036
05:27 VanessaE was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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05:27 VanessaE haha
05:27 cxclaim7193 i played the one that was green
05:27 VanessaE the one that was green?
05:28 VanessaE that sounds like the "Minimal development test"
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05:28 VanessaE that's not really a game, that's just what it sounds like
05:28 VanessaE here, grab this:  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/archive/master.zip
05:28 cxclaim7193 i did see something awhile back
05:28 VanessaE unzip that file, rename the folder to minetest_game
05:29 VanessaE and put it in your minetest games directory, and create a world with that instead
05:29 VanessaE THAT one is the real default game
05:29 cxclaim7193 thanks
05:29 VanessaE the others I listed are third-party games that some of us have built
05:30 Vazon Night im off to bed
05:30 cxclaim7193 so, is there redstone in minetest?
05:31 Vazon cxclaim redstone but our more or less equvelent is mese or mesecons
05:31 Vazon no redstone*
05:32 VanessaE cxclaim7193: yes, Mesecons mod
05:32 cxclaim7193 is it seperate?
05:32 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=628
05:32 Vazon yes you need to get the mesecons mod
05:32 cxclaim7193 ah
05:32 Vazon ^^
05:32 VanessaE cxclaim7193: also, look at the texture packs we have
05:33 * VanessaE is proud of hers - HDX.  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=1583
05:33 cxclaim7193 is there anyone who uses 0.3.x?
05:33 VanessaE 0.3.x is outdated but some people still play it, in the form of Minetest Classic
05:34 VanessaE most of us use the 0.4.x series
05:34 cxclaim7193 i used it for a time
05:34 VanessaE sources for 0.4.x:  https://github.com/minetest/minetest
05:34 Vazon cxc its outdated but as VanessaE said there is a branch called Minetest Classic that uses 0.3.x
05:34 VanessaE (binaries are on http://minetest.net )
05:35 cxclaim7193 what? windows?
05:35 cxclaim7193 binaries?
05:35 VanessaE yeah
05:36 VanessaE you can get windows or linux packages ready to run, or compile it yourself if you like
05:37 VanessaE (it's recommended that you grab one of the "latest git" builds from the forums, they're more up-to-date than the releases on the main website)
05:37 cxclaim7193 i haven't clue what 'compile' means in computers
05:38 VanessaE it means to run the source code through a program that turns it into something you can actually run.  If you don't know how to do that, grab a copy that has already been compiled.
05:38 Vazon Compile means to put it to gether yourself in a terminal (Now that definition isnt intierly correct)
05:38 VanessaE one second.
05:38 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6727
05:38 VanessaE grab one of these
05:38 VanessaE they're usually really good
05:38 cxclaim7193 ah
05:39 cxclaim7193 thanks
05:39 cxclaim7193 hmm
05:39 VanessaE brb
05:39 cxclaim7193 blank...
05:40 cxclaim7193 wait.. nevermind
05:41 VanessaE be sure you grab whichever one is appropriate for your machine
05:42 VanessaE (32 bit or 64 bit - if you don't know, try the 32 bit one first)
05:43 Vazon VanessaE: in your homedecor mod how did you get your textures for the ironbars and stuff work??? because i made the default ladder 3d not a flat image and i have to use the wood texture other wise it gliches out.
05:43 VanessaE hm, gotta remember to poke blockmen to update his build.  it's out of date already :)
05:43 VanessaE Vazon: well for the iron bars, I just used a flat texture and let it wrap itself around the model
05:44 VanessaE different shades on each side
05:44 VanessaE nothing at all complex
05:44 VanessaE literally, I textured it like you'd texture a block of dirt or so
05:44 Vazon really?? it looks different from all sides so i figured you used a different way of texturing it
05:44 VanessaE yep
05:45 Vazon mhm
05:45 VanessaE it's just three big square "metal" textures
05:45 Vazon ok i will jsut have to think of how i want it to look
05:45 VanessaE same texture, just slightly different shaes
05:45 VanessaE shades
05:45 Vazon ok
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05:45 VanessaE the reason the default ladder image doesn't work is because your model expects different images for the sides
05:46 VanessaE you have to texture models differently than you would a flat object or a cube
05:46 VanessaE imagine a small clay sculpture without any paint on it.
05:46 Vazon o ok
05:46 VanessaE what would happen if you projected a flat image onto one side?
05:46 VanessaE (like, literally from a film projector pointing at it)
05:47 Vazon well it would be distored
05:47 VanessaE yes
05:47 VanessaE now suppose you drew that texture so that, when projected onto the sculpture, the image looks correct
05:47 VanessaE what would happen if you project that same image onto a flat surface like the wall?
05:47 VanessaE it would again look distorted, right?
05:48 Vazon yes
05:48 VanessaE well, the ladder is the same thing, the other way around.
05:48 VanessaE and done from all six sides of the cube
05:48 Vazon hrmm ok
05:48 VanessaE you've taken an image that's meant to be shown on a flat surface and projected it onto a rumpled, bumpy, warped object, so it distorts.
05:49 VanessaE and because you only supplied one, the game took that image and flipped and rotated and copied it to the other 5 sides
05:49 VanessaE so you've got bits bent out here, pieces chopped out over there, etc.
05:49 Vazon ya
05:50 VanessaE (insert more, excessively verbose stuff here explaining it ;) )
05:51 Vazon well that gives me something to do tomorrow then, i spend 30 min the other day creating the 3d ladder for the eserver because i hate the flat one. it jsut floats in the air never touchign the wall, it bugged me -.-
05:52 VanessaE heh
05:53 Vazon idk why no one every bother to fix that.
05:54 VanessaE I always wondered that
05:55 Vazon would you like to see how it turned out? the only people who have seen it are the ones who have joined me server which isnt many atm because its not on hte public list
05:56 VanessaE sure
05:56 VanessaE might even be worth adding to my servers and support in HDX :)
05:56 VanessaE (as long as you changed the filename)
05:56 Vazon :D
05:56 VanessaE (of the texture)
05:57 Vazon the texture is default wood atm till i make a new one but once i do yes it will be changed
05:57 VanessaE just copy default wood -> your mod and rename it and reference that
05:57 VanessaE until you can give it a proper texture
05:58 Vazon ok
05:58 Vazon i will do that 2morrow, i need to get some sleep
05:58 VanessaE you'll need four images: 3d_ladder_front.png, 3d_ladder_back.png, 3d_ladder_sides.png, 3d_ladder_topbottom.png
05:58 Vazon ok
05:58 VanessaE (re-use the sides image for the left/right, and obviously you know what to do for the topbottom one)
05:59 Vazon ya
05:59 whiskers75 I'm going to try out Jordach's BFD
05:59 VanessaE whiskers75: careful with git, he says it's crashy
05:59 VanessaE you may have to roll back a few commits if it acts up
05:59 whiskers75 sure
05:59 whiskers75 I'm just using the master.zip
05:59 Vazon ok Night guys
05:59 VanessaE something about an unfinished node def
05:59 VanessaE night Vazon
06:00 whiskers75 if it starts crashing, I'll git clone and checkout earlier commits
06:00 whiskers75 please minetest, don't kill my computer
06:00 VanessaE I'm dumb like that.  I git reset and git pull to go back and forth :P
06:01 whiskers75 lol
06:01 VanessaE I never understand what I'm doing with git checkout if it isn't for an actual branch
06:01 whiskers75 VanessaE: you can detach your HEAD and just git checkout a commit directly
06:01 whiskers75 also, it failed on just booting it xD
06:01 VanessaE heh
06:02 whiskers75 VanessaE: read Pro Git
06:03 VanessaE me after trying to read half the shit on the web about git or Lua  --> 0_o
06:03 whiskers75 VanessaE: lol
06:03 * whiskers75 is a git expert
06:03 VanessaE *twitch*
06:04 whiskers75 yay, git -1 worked
06:04 whiskers75 I mean the commit before latest
06:04 VanessaE oh good
06:05 whiskers75 and I spawn in the middle of the freakin' ocean.
06:05 VanessaE lol
06:05 VanessaE oh BFD is a bitch like that
06:05 VanessaE so Jordach says
06:05 whiskers75 lol
06:06 whiskers75 no damn land in sight
06:06 whiskers75 I'm getting a new world...
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06:07 whiskers75 pls2later tell Jordach WHY IS BFD SO HARD :(
06:07 ^EOF whiskers75: Meow!
06:07 whiskers75 pls2hug VanessaE
06:07 * ^EOF hugs VanessaE
06:08 VanessaE heh
06:08 VanessaE I've been bot-hugged :)
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06:28 whiskers75 pls2compliment VanessaE
06:28 ^EOF VanessaE: I dig you.
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06:29 VanessaE heh
06:30 VanessaE cute :(
06:30 VanessaE shit
06:30 VanessaE cute :)
06:31 whiskers75 ;P
06:32 VanessaE can't type
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06:34 VanessaE hi
06:35 whiskers75 pls2slap Krock
06:35 * ^EOF slaps Krock around a bit with a rainbow trout!
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06:36 kaeza greetings
06:37 * Krock doesn't know why minetest.register_on_generated's seed always changes...
06:37 * Krock expected a constant value
06:44 VanessaE hey
06:45 VanessaE I believe it's supposed to be the block seed, not the world seed
06:45 Krock so it's useless for lua mapgens...?
06:45 VanessaE idk
06:45 Krock k
06:46 VanessaE probably useful for seeding a rng if you wanna make sure trees et al always end up in the same spots on a map
06:46 Krock aha
06:46 Krock well, I wouldn't require such thing
06:46 VanessaE but I could also be talking out of my ass too :)
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07:16 * sfan5 meows
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07:16 sfan5 hi everyone
07:17 sfan5 !tell hoodedice yes, in /home/stefan/aw/minetest.newest/Android/bin/Minetest-debug.apk
07:17 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever
07:18 VanessaE morning, sfan5
07:20 * kaeza pets sfan5 from an Ubuntu 14.04 VM
07:21 * sfan5 purrs at kaeza from an Ubuntu 14.04 not-VM
07:24 blaaaaargh whoever thought right Ctrl is a good idea for the "special key" should be shot
07:24 blaaaaargh (VBox)
07:25 sfan5 you can change it
07:25 blaaaaargh I know
07:25 blaaaaargh but seems can't be changed at runtime
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08:16 Krock Good idea: A restaurant gives 2-5 CHF fine when they don't eat everything which they have ordered
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08:23 VanessaE here it's common to just take home in a "doggy bag"/"to go box" that which you have ordered but cannot finish
08:23 VanessaE if you have any sense
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08:34 Krock that's also a good idea
08:36 * sfan5 meows at Krock
08:36 * Krock barks at sfan5
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08:42 Krock OMG <3 <3 <3 http://imgur.com/gallery/Lq1UX0K
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08:44 VanessaE hahaha
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09:19 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix a bunch of small bugs due to mainmenu cleanup f969a91c0a 2014-05-24T11:16:05+02:00 http://git.io/_OYscw
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09:49 VanessaE whiskers75: how old is your minetest client, btw?
09:49 whiskers75 0.4.9
09:49 VanessaE release/stable?
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09:50 VanessaE (I mean, not a git build)
09:50 whiskers75 a 0.4.9-184-[cba to remember sha]
09:50 whiskers75 a git build
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09:50 VanessaE heh ok
09:51 whiskers75 john_minetest: http://blog.whiskers75.co.uk/load-averages-with-a-piglow/ :D
09:52 VanessaE heh, cute
09:52 whiskers75 :P
09:53 whiskers75 such GET
09:53 whiskers75 many request
09:53 whiskers75 very load
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09:53 whiskers75 you actually pushed it down to green by querying it
09:53 whiskers75 :P
09:53 whiskers75 I'mma host those images externally, I think
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09:54 Jordach LOL
09:54 VanessaE all right, enough's enough, I'm off :)
09:54 VanessaE night
09:54 whiskers75 Jordach: wat?
09:54 whiskers75 oh, lol
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09:54 Jordach [10:53:36] <whiskers75> you actually pushed it down to green by querying it
09:54 whiskers75 xD
09:54 nman3600 hi
09:54 whiskers75 it's gone back to white now
09:54 nman3600 i just had to clear some space on my computer because i was lagging like crazy
09:54 whiskers75 sorry for the lack of commenting, btw
09:55 whiskers75 the provider's having issues
09:56 nman3600 if you want to see screenshots of my new mod join #multitest
09:57 Jordach just post em here
09:57 Jordach no need to fucking fragment the community=
09:57 nman3600 lol
09:57 nman3600 k
09:58 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
09:58 nman3600 AHH FUCK AND ADVERT SCARED ME
09:58 kaeza such language
09:59 nman3600 sorry it scared me
09:59 whiskers75 lol
09:59 whiskers75 https://imgur.com/a/lS9ts
09:59 nman3600 is that similar to raspberry pi?
09:59 whiskers75 it is a raspberry pi
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10:00 nman3600 KNEW IT
10:00 Jordach GAH
10:00 Jordach use https://mediacru.sh for picture hosting
10:00 whiskers75 Jordach: don't have time atm
10:00 whiskers75 also, Calinou: http://blog.whiskers75.co.uk/load-averages-with-a-piglow/
10:00 sfan5 >not having time for change
10:00 whiskers75 afk
10:00 whiskers75 (see?)
10:01 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75
10:01 * nman3600 woofs at sfan5
10:01 * sfan5 puts nman3600 on a kitten
10:01 nman3600 ahh kitten
10:02 nman3600 !rainbow rainbow kittens!!!
10:02 MinetestBot 4r4a4i7n7b7o8w8 8k3i3t3tens6!6!6!
10:02 Calinou hi
10:04 nman3600 hi
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10:07 nman3600 !rainbow r a i n b o w
10:07 MinetestBot 4r4 4a7 7i7 8n8 8b3 3o3 w
10:07 Calinou “(paid for in bitcoin, of course)” :o
10:07 * sfan5 meows at nman3600
10:07 * sfan5 throws doges at Calinou
10:07 * nman3600 meows back at sfan5
10:07 * nman3600 hands milk to sfan5
10:08 nman3600 lol
10:08 * sfan5 noms the milk
10:08 * sfan5 throws a Pighigh at john_minetest
10:08 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((-<
10:08 * sfan5 noms the fishy
10:09 * nman3600 feeds sfan5 cat food
10:09 * sfan5 throws computers at nman3600
10:10 Calinou http://0bin.net/paste/8y1a1mcce+R1FUAR#cMXCYLo6hAP9Eb3TIgyhppbA1AHNV02HCifuGi4n6nY=
10:10 Calinou :D
10:10 Calinou this works
10:10 Calinou need to fix textres now
10:15 Calinou Made crafting bricks and clay require 9 items instead of 4, added ability to uncraft clay into clay lumps, added grass slabs, made Unbreakable Grass rotatable.
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10:18 * nman3600 fills sfan5's bowl of milk up
10:18 Jordach ow
10:18 * sfan5 noms the milk and then noms the bowl
10:18 Jordach pins and needles in the fingers
10:19 nman3600 that's the worst thing when that happens Jordach
10:19 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Remove settings not used any longer 3939ab6c9d 2014-05-24T12:17:15+02:00 http://git.io/5WQT7g
10:20 nman3600 what's the item string for wheat is it farming:wheat
10:20 nman3600 because i'm lazy to look it up
10:20 sfan5 probably
10:22 nman3600 yes it is farming:wheat
10:23 Calinou added burned clay, obtained by smelting a clay block
10:23 nman3600 nice
10:23 Calinou sfan5, would it possible to make mod-agnostic /give command?
10:23 Calinou would scan all mods and give first item possible
10:23 sfan5 agnostic = ?
10:23 sfan5 ah
10:23 sfan5 yes
10:23 Calinou eg: you type /giveme trapstone
10:23 Calinou without an alias, it would find it in moreblocks
10:24 Calinou aliases lengthen load time and bloat the code :(
10:24 Jordach reasons why BFD has none
10:24 Calinou if there are at least 2 items with same name: tell all the names (disambig)
10:25 nman3600 hmm? what blocks to add to my mod
10:25 Calinou hay bale
10:25 Calinou (I will probably add that soon to Carbone)
10:25 Calinou bye for now :)
10:25 nman3600 that's what i just did actually
10:25 nman3600 i made hay bale for minetest lol
10:26 sfan5 Jordach: you don't need any for bfd because there is no backward-compatibility
10:26 Jordach sfan5, BFD somewhat runs MTG based mods
10:26 Jordach but barelyt
10:26 Jordach -t
10:26 nman3600 Calinou in my mod i made hay bale that's why i wanted to know the item string for wheat
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10:28 nman3600 srsly now i might have to remove hay bale from my mod because it's being added to minetest
10:29 kaeza no, it's being added to Carbone
10:29 nman3600 k i'll keep then then?
10:29 nman3600 *it then?*
10:29 kaeza yes yes :)
10:29 nman3600 i spent hours making hay bale perfect
10:29 nman3600 making it all fancy and have neat textures
10:30 kaeza or you could somehow detect when carbone is being used and not define or overwrite the other (for the sake of craft recipes)
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10:34 whiskers75 Jordach: fine, https://mediacru.sh/2b0a70ff1d4d
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10:38 Jordach :D
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10:57 whiskers75 pls2slap Jordach
10:58 * ^EOF slaps Jordach around a bit with a rainbow trout!
10:58 Jordach NO BOTS
10:58 Jordach I ALREADY WARNED YOU
10:59 PenguinDad pls2pony ^EOF
10:59 * ^EOF slaps ^EOF around a bit with a rainbow dash!
11:06 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=142588#p142588
11:06 Krock !title
11:06 MinetestBot Krock: [Mod] An other lua mapgen [noisetest] - Minetest Forums
11:09 BlockMen we need an adbot that posts randomly topics :P
11:10 Krock LOl
11:10 Krock whatever, I added a v6-like ore generation
11:10 Krock only caves missing
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11:20 nman3600 hey
11:20 nman3600 v.0.1 of my mod is out
11:20 nman3600 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=9334
11:23 whiskers75 pls2part because Jordach says so
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11:23 kaeza you're no fun :<
11:24 whiskers75 me?
11:24 whiskers75 or Jordach?
11:24 kaeza second
11:24 Jordach we did have rules on unauthorised bots
11:25 whiskers75 Jordach: 'did'?
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11:26 * PenguinDad hands whiskers75 a faked bot authorization certificate
11:27 * whiskers75 gives it to Jordach
11:27 * whiskers75 waits
11:27 moli|2 hi all. i am searching for some parameter to increase the abundancy of minerals; e.g. iron ore, mese stone. i do not seem to find any way of tuning these paramerters, so are these hard-coded?
11:28 kaeza moli|2, hi. these parameters are set in their respective register_ore() calls in their *.lua files
11:28 moli|2 oh, not in the world, then
11:28 kaeza you can change them if you want :)
11:29 moli|2 it is mostly for testing, but without having to go creative
11:29 moli|2 (when my son plays, i think it is a bit too creative in creative mode :-)
11:29 kaeza heh
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11:30 moli|2 but too hard to get resources in survival mode when testing stuff
11:30 moli|2 so i find the .lua files with the installation and the mods?
11:31 kaeza yes, just Ctrl+F for register_ore somewhere in minetest_game/mods/default/ (or other mods you may be using)
11:32 kaeza here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua#L34
11:32 moli|2 kaeza: nice! thanks a bunch!
11:32 kaeza sure :)
11:33 kaeza invrease clust_num_ores and/or clust_size and that should do what you want
11:34 kaeza increase, even
11:34 moli|2 kaeza: this is then not isolated to just one test-world, as i understand it, right?
11:34 kaeza changing the game changes it for all future generated terrain
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11:35 kaeza if you want to isolate, copy games/minetest_game/ to worlds/yourworld/game/ and modify
11:35 moli|2 yes ... so i should be a bit conservative there :)
11:35 moli|2 ok. thanks for that tip!
11:35 moli|2 will do
11:36 moli|2 could i copy just mapgen.lua? or does it need the whole of the hierarchy?
11:37 kaeza it needs the whole thing
11:37 moli|2 ok
11:37 kaeza I don't recall if copying just `default' mod to the world folder (as worlds/yourworld/worldmods/default) overrides the one in game
11:38 moli|2 i suppose just default should do the trick ... will try
11:39 moli|2 i would guess on worlds/yourworld/mods/default, not worldsmods ... ?
11:40 BlockMen bye
11:40 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix library link order b743dcb942 2014-05-24T13:39:27+02:00 http://git.io/ORaeVw
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11:41 kaeza it's `worldmods' (dunno why this inconsistency)
11:41 moli|2 ok. thanks for all your help
11:41 kaeza sure :)
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11:44 Jordach nomnomnom
11:44 Jordach hot chicken + mayo + french bread = noms
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11:47 moli|2 kaeza: test result: works fine with just the pertinent mod in worldmods under the world folder
11:47 moli|2 thanks again!
11:48 kaeza glad to read :)
11:48 Jordach i clear my inbow for five seconds and more MT Github messages flow in
11:48 kaeza you're quite welcome :)
11:49 PenguinDad wow sapier is quite active today
11:49 * kaeza shoots an arrow to the knee with Jordach's inbow
11:49 Jordach PenguinDad, and saying no to every possible pull because he thinks he now owns the project
11:50 * Krock points at loggingbot_
11:50 * kaeza points at #1324
11:51 * Krock points at his superdupermegaamazing mapgen
11:51 * whiskers75 tells Krock that it doesn't have caves
11:51 * Krock knows tha
11:51 * Krock -t
11:51 kaeza it's supercallifragilisticexpialidocious!
11:51 Krock marry poppins?
11:51 whiskers75 lol http://puu.sh/8YST0.png
11:52 kaeza haha!
11:57 Krock hmm.. we need a mod to create awesome mod names
12:02 whiskers75 lol
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12:48 Krock !tell w_laenger https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=142596#p142596 the edit part
12:48 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when w_laenger is around
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13:36 reactor гДПЮБЯГБСИРЕ!
13:36 PenguinDad Flüsse!
13:38 reactor пЫЙВЛБ ЧЧПДБ-ЧЩЧПДБ.
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13:57 * PenguinDad lowers his font size a bit
13:58 reactor john_minetest: how's the science?
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14:00 sfan5 john_minetest: sounds like irrlicht is using it's built-in font
14:00 sfan5 john_minetest: screenshot?
14:05 Krock @ 2 hours ago post - finally got caves generating. well, they're not very realistic but... caves :D
14:05 sfan5 yep
14:06 sfan5 that is irrlicht's built-in font
14:06 sfan5 recompile irrlicht with png loader support
14:10 Exio4 archlinux?
14:10 sfan5 try recompiling latest-svn irrlicht
14:10 sfan5 +with
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14:14 reactor john_minetest: bad fontconfig cache?
14:15 reactor rm -rf .fontconfig .cache/fontconfig; fc-cache
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14:15 sfan5 irrlicht does not use fontconfig
14:16 sfan5 reactor: irrlicht uses .png fonts
14:16 reactor That was just a monkey-guess. You know more about it.
14:16 sfan5 john_minetest: can you try forcing minetest to use freetype fonts? (try freetype = true)
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14:16 reactor john_minetest: access modes?
14:16 reactor libpng gone bad?
14:19 Megaf Hi all
14:19 Megaf Hi sfan5 reactor john_minetest
14:19 Krock hi alone
14:19 Megaf How are things?
14:19 Megaf Hello Krock
14:19 reactor Hi Megaf.
14:19 * sfan5 purrs
14:19 CraigyDavi hi Megaf
14:19 Megaf Hey :)
14:19 reactor Things are getting better (r)(tm)(c)
14:19 * CraigyDavi barks
14:20 Megaf Now, let's see if I will continue happy or will get sad
14:20 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
14:20 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (752ms)
14:20 Megaf Yup, still happy
14:20 reactor john_minetest just discovered the wonders of using OS mail to deliver remote mail?
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14:24 * sfan5 curls up to john_minetest's lap
14:24 Megaf How do you say hello in German?
14:24 reactor Hallo?
14:25 Megaf In a even more informal way
14:25 reactor Tschues!
14:25 Megaf heh
14:25 reactor That's like "ciao".
14:26 Megaf [100%] Built target minetest
14:26 Megaf real1m26.885s
14:27 Megaf time to compile minetest client
14:29 Krock l o l
14:29 o l Krock l
14:29 Krock ^^
14:35 Megaf man, there's a dead player on my server, it's been 4 days, no moves, no words
14:35 Krock KICK
14:36 Megaf Krock; That's the crazy part, I restarted the server several times
14:36 Krock a bugbot then
14:36 Megaf He joins the server and still a motionless thing
14:37 reactor banbanbanbanban
14:37 PenguinDad that's something for the mythbusters then ;)
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14:38 rubenwardy Hi all!
14:38 rubenwardy Time for SH1
14:38 rubenwardy *SH2
14:40 PenguinDad Shotgun 2?
14:40 PenguinDad s/Shotgun/Shogun/
14:41 reactor Megaf: does teleporting the player work?
14:41 Megaf reactor; yep
14:41 Megaf I kicked him
14:53 reactor Tens lines of "supplied wrong password". Gees, people!
14:53 rubenwardy PenguinDad: StrongHold
14:53 reactor Nobody's going to do auth.txt pruning on a daily basis!
14:54 reactor Some form of account aging should be implemented, I think.
14:55 MrBeNNy PenguinDad hmmm
14:55 MrBeNNy I'll have to ask Penguin :D
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14:57 raffahacks Hi
14:57 Krock hi
14:58 MrBeNNy hi
14:58 raffahacks Does mod store work now?
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15:00 raffahacks What will we have i  0.5?
15:00 raffahacks In
15:00 rubenwardy 0.4.* is the modding API
15:00 rubenwardy 0.5.* - who knows
15:01 raffahacks Thank you
15:01 rubenwardy I am guessing advanced map generation and VAE
15:01 MrBeNNy Keurig Machines
15:01 sfan5 in 0.5 we'll have maps
15:01 rubenwardy (Voxel Area Entities)
15:01 sfan5 block*
15:01 sfan5 nodes**
15:01 raffahacks Builtin mese?
15:02 PenguinDad 0.4.10 will have fixes!
15:02 Krock <3 MT how it is right now (except of 666 bugs)
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15:03 raffahacks Minetest's mods are quite buggy...
15:03 Krock untrue
15:03 Krock intrue
15:03 Krock false
15:03 * sfan5 flips Krock
15:03 Jordach MrBeNNy, wikipedia'd Keurig Machines and got coffee machines
15:03 raffahacks For example, cannot compare mese and redstone
15:04 Krock s/mese/mesecons
15:05 PenguinDad Redstone sucks because there aren't any advanced gates
15:05 raffahacks You're right
15:06 Krock I'd have a mod to test if t's buggy too...
15:06 Krock it's*
15:08 raffahacks Do you find mesecons stable?
15:09 Krock mesecons never threw me errors at all
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15:10 raffahacks But they aren't fast. I cannot build a mese pc, but i can with redstone
15:10 raffahacks In a harder way ;)
15:10 Krock I can not build anything with redstone
15:11 Krock MC's requirements are too high for my PC
15:12 * Krock repeats like the 1337th time
15:12 raffahacks Are mt requirements lower?
15:12 Krock MUCH lower
15:12 raffahacks Wow... Didn't think
15:12 Krock there are WORLDS in between them
15:12 Krock like a sandcorn and the sun
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15:12 raffahacks Why did mt crash (segmentation fault) on fedora on allwinner a20?
15:12 Krock (okay that's too big difference)
15:13 Krock raffahacks, too high octaves at perlin noise?
15:13 Krock well, it can have serval reasons
15:13 PenguinDad Minetest+ looks so old
15:14 Krock Minetest from 0.3.1 looks so old
15:15 PenguinDad 0.3.1 doesn't look that old
15:15 Jordach and it turns out i might end up with Fibre with 75mb down and 25mb up by Sept. 2015 :D
15:17 PenguinDad Jordach: 75 mb really?
15:17 Jordach yarp
15:18 PenguinDad !c 75 * 8
15:18 MinetestBot 600
15:18 PenguinDad 600 mbit O_O
15:18 rubenwardy I think he means 75 megabits down
15:18 rubenwardy !c 75/8
15:18 MinetestBot 9
15:19 rubenwardy 9 MB (mega bytes)
15:19 Krock !c 75/8 + ' MB (mega bytes)'
15:19 MinetestBot TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'int' and 'str'
15:20 MrBeNNy Jordach -- Yes, we need them. Must have COFFEE :D
15:20 Krock !c 75/8 + " MB (mega bytes)"
15:20 MinetestBot TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'int' and 'str'
15:20 Krock :(
15:20 PenguinDad !c tostr(75/8) + ' MB (mega bytes)'
15:20 MinetestBot NameError: name 'tostr' is not defined
15:20 PenguinDad !c tostring(75/8) + ' MB (mega bytes)'
15:20 MinetestBot NameError: name 'tostring' is not defined
15:21 rubenwardy https://github.com/RHRhino/meintest D:
15:21 rubenwardy !c str(75/8) + ' MB (mega bytes)'
15:21 MinetestBot '9 MB (mega bytes)'
15:21 rubenwardy Learn python, b1tches,
15:22 Calinou hi
15:22 Calinou <Krock> MC's requirements are too high for my PC
15:22 Calinou it doesn't deserve being played
15:22 PenguinDad rubenwardy: 'unsertest' is better :P
15:23 Krock Calinou, let me say it clearer: "MC does not start on my PC"
15:24 Calinou yeah
15:24 Krock rubenwardy, why "D:"?
15:24 Calinou doesn't change my opinion on Minecraft
15:24 rubenwardy meintest - the pun is silly
15:25 Krock rubenwardy: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-05-24#i_3717816
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16:06 Jordach is that the mozilla font
16:07 Calinou yes
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16:49 LemonLake Anyone know how I can hide players names?
16:51 Krock unlimited_player_transfer_distance = false
16:51 LemonLake That hides players over a distance, too.
16:52 LemonLake I'm making a game that requires long-distance viewing of players, but the names should only be visible when close.
16:52 Krock that thing got requested so manytimes
16:52 LemonLake I would make a pull request if I could recompile the game without fail.
16:52 Krock get a compiled version=
16:52 Krock ??
16:53 LemonLake No, I would have to recompile it then create a pull request.
16:53 LemonLake I can edit it fine. The awkward part is also having people update their games, since nobody does that anymore.
16:54 LemonLake I suppose another option would be to place nodes where a long-distance player is, however there is no way to make client-side nodes afaik
16:54 Krock game or minetest engine?
16:54 LemonLake Depends what. I'm making a game in the engine. I would make a pull request on the engine.
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16:57 LemonLake I did hear that the skins mod could do it, however I checked the code to no evidence of it.
16:58 Krock impossible AFAIK
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16:59 LemonLake Do you reckon it'd be a problem if you could see players names in a large battlefield?
16:59 LemonLake And also in situations in sniper battles, etc?
16:59 asl beech tree sapling is impossible to get through normal means?
16:59 Krock asl, that means, you need to modify the codes
17:00 Krock I did it and it works on my server
17:00 Krock beech trees are a bit bigger than normal
17:01 LemonLake Well, with hope they'll add it in a future update. I'll have to try my hand at recompiling the game again until then, I'll have to get my Linux working again. Thanks anyway!
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17:51 Krock http://imgur.com/gallery/PYdu6W7
17:56 Krock http://imgur.com/gallery/j4z61uI
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18:21 ShadowNinja <PenguinDad> !c tostring(75/8) + ' MB (mega bytes)'
18:21 ShadowNinja []eval tostring(75/8)..' MB (mega bytes)'
18:21 MTLuaBot "9.375 MB (mega bytes)"
18:21 ShadowNinja :-)
18:22 VanessaE heh
18:25 rubenwardy []eval error("Help!")
18:25 rubenwardy []eval "hello"
18:25 rubenwardy oh
18:25 rubenwardy XD
18:25 rubenwardy gtg
18:25 Krock ..
18:26 * sfan5 meows
18:27 VanessaE hey
18:30 ShadowNinja ~tell rubenwardy eval isn't sandboxed, so it's obviously owner-only.  I'd like to add a non-sandboxed version, but I'll either have to add threading support(hard) or blacklist keyworks like "for", "while", "repeat", "until", and "function"(ugly).  I'll need to implement threading in the long run for title fetching and the like anyway.
18:30 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
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18:32 nman3600 hi
18:32 nman3600 have you checked out my mod?
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18:32 Megaf !seen nekofire
18:32 MinetestBot Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen nekofire around.
18:33 nman3600 !seen nman3600
18:33 MinetestBot nman3600: nman3600 was last seen at 2014-05-24 18:32:33 UTC on #minetest
18:33 nman3600 i'm right here
18:38 PenguinDad !seen Pinky
18:38 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen pinky around.
18:39 PenguinDad I guess you haven't seen Brain too
18:40 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
18:41 * PenguinDad pets sfan5
18:41 * sfan5 purrs
18:48 VanessaE <insert random, weird "but where are we going to X at this time of night" comment here>
18:48 VanessaE (or whatever it was Pinky always said in response to the usual "pondering" query)
18:49 Jordach what we do every night, Pinky
18:50 VanessaE nonono
18:50 VanessaE SAME THING we do every night
18:50 * nman3600 feeds sfan5 milk
18:50 * sfan5 does not react
18:50 * nman3600 strokes sfan5
18:50 Krock "feed", is that the right word?
18:50 * sfan5 does not react
18:51 * nman3600 hits sfan5 for being naughty
18:51 * sfan5 slaps nman3600
18:51 * john_minetest feeds Krock RSS
18:51 * Krock pokes
18:51 * john_minetest stabs
18:51 VanessaE I was referring to the other running gag, "Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Pinky?" "Uh, I think so brain, but where/what are we going to _____ at this time of night?"
18:51 * nman3600 strokes sfan5 while saying sorry
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18:51 kaeza C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
18:51 * sfan5 purrs
18:52 * nman3600 hands sfan5 milk
18:52 * sfan5 noms the milk
18:52 * sfan5 throws bytes at john_minetest
18:53 * nman3600 hands sfan5 a bowl of milk and the bowl is made of milk aswell
18:53 * sfan5 noms nman3600
18:53 nman3600 AHHH
18:53 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((--~~~
18:54 * sfan5 is busy
18:54 * kaeza calls forth Blue-Eyes White Dragon
18:54 * john_minetest chooses Nyuzanryu!
18:55 * kaeza plays Candy Box 2
18:55 Jordach shit i've learned today: video editing
18:55 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/mLlpY5Y4pshA.png
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18:56 Guest61188 Hi, guys,
18:56 Jordach maybe ;)
18:56 Jordach got a whole summer of free time coming up
18:57 zat wtf with pewDIEpie... my girlfriend is always watching his videos.
18:57 Guest61188 I just got minetest. But I don't see any animals like in minecraft. How do I get them? I have Bodhi, Linux, sort of like Ubuntu.
18:57 sfan5 Guest42825: install mobf, simple mobs or creatured mod
18:58 Guest61188 Is that me you're talking to?
18:58 sfan5 oh.. yes
18:59 Guest61188 so how do I do that? sorry. not to good with linux yet either.
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18:59 VanessaE sfan5: can you prepare new builds please? :)
18:59 sfan5 VanessaE: why? | yes I can
18:59 sfan5 Guest61188: http://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_mods
18:59 sfan5 VanessaE: (I don't need a reason, just asking)
19:00 Guest61188 oh  thanks for the link.
19:00 VanessaE just need to point someone at a recent windows build, and yours are the most recent (but still a few days old yet; Blockmen's are even older)
19:00 VanessaE someone trying to run Dreambuilder but their version is too old to run it
19:01 VanessaE I'm not sure how old you can go and still have that game work properly :)
19:02 sfan5 VanessaE: ok, I'll make new ones
19:02 VanessaE thanks a bunch
19:11 VanessaE oh, btw, are you aware that you drop the first digit from the git commit ID, in your filenames?
19:13 sfan5 I do?
19:13 VanessaE uh huh
19:13 VanessaE minetest-0.4.9-3e5bc9c-win64.7z  but the commit id is _7_3e5bc9c
19:13 sfan5 o.O
19:14 sfan5 how does that happen?
19:14 VanessaE idk, I just now noticed it myself
19:15 sfan5 ah
19:15 sfan5 I used git show | head -c 15 | tail -c7 instead of git show | head -c 17 | tail -c7
19:15 sfan5 oh wait
19:15 sfan5 I used git show | head -c 15 | tail -c7 instead of git show | head -c 14 | tail -c7
19:15 VanessaE I figured it might be an off-by-1 glitch
19:16 sfan5 *fixes build script*
19:16 sfan5 now I have to upload that 50mb backup of my minetest-builds stuff to dropbox again
19:16 sfan5 *sigh*
19:18 VanessaE sowwy, wish I'd spotted it sooner :(
19:18 sfan5 no, it's ok
19:18 sfan5 both builds (32b & 64b) already uploading
19:19 * VanessaE looks at her revised backup script.  jesus toast, an hour and a half to map 7 worlds because Survival is so bloody huge :)
19:19 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7511699/
19:19 VanessaE (that's not running the official mapper)
19:20 VanessaE and it's "Sunday" because I had to test the part that readies the weekly downloadable maps part)
19:20 sfan5 you could try saving the map using gzip -1 first and then recompressing it like cat backup.tmp.tar.gz | gzip -d | xz -z -9 > backup.tar.xz in the background
19:20 VanessaE tried that.  the disk load alone is horrendous :(
19:21 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html
19:21 sfan5 1) pay money 2) add SSD 3) ??? 4) profit
19:21 VanessaE yep, I thought about that
19:21 VanessaE I am so spoiled by the SSD in my home PC :)
19:23 sfan5 32b build finished uploading, 64b one at 56%
19:24 sfan5 lftp is awesome
19:24 sfan5 the only command line ftp client with the same feature set as filezilla
19:24 sfan5 and easy to use too
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19:24 sfan5 I initally used it because I wanted a scriptable command line ftp client that supported tls
19:26 kat_ Guys, I went to that link about how to get mods. Ummm I don't get it. sorry, linux newby here. So, I am using Bodhi, a linux similar to Ubuntu. I went into the Minetest section for mods and saw that I could go to the mod store and download a mod, but it didn't download for me, but said there was an error. Can anybody help a dummy like me? No one is on the Bodhi channel right now.
19:26 kat_ and they won't help on Ubuntu
19:27 VanessaE kat:  better to just download mods from the Minetest forums instead.  It's easy to do.
19:27 Krock kat_,that's a MT problem
19:27 sfan5 you are using a system-wide installation of Minetest, right?
19:28 kat_ ummm "system-wide"? I got a ppa (something) command for minetest online that I trusted and put it in the terminator. It seems to run real good except there are no animals.
19:28 sfan5 yes, that is a system-wide installation
19:28 kat_ o.k.
19:28 sfan5 just download the mods from the forum
19:29 kat_ o.k. will do    thanks!
19:29 Megaf VanessaE; does you server have an UI so players can change theier skins?
19:30 VanessaE no, but players can send skins or skin links to me and I will install them
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19:30 Megaf hm
19:30 sfan5 VanessaE:
19:30 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=1523&amp;p=142642#p142642
19:30 sfan5 damn you Ctrl+C
19:30 Megaf Vazon uses a mod with changeble skins
19:31 VanessaE \o/
19:31 Krock Megaf, me too!!!!
19:32 Krock omg
19:32 Megaf whats that mod?
19:32 Krock u_skins, simple_skins, *skins*
19:33 VanessaE I use player_textures
19:33 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3587
19:33 Krock This was the target: >>mod with changeble skins<<
19:34 VanessaE just saying what I use...
19:34 VanessaE eekj!
19:34 Krock ok
19:34 Megaf Thanks VanessaE
19:34 Megaf now, let be get more carrot cake
19:37 VanessaE crap, build failure of minetest for me ...
19:37 Megaf weird
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19:37 Megaf I built a fresh one from master a couple of hours ago
19:37 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7511747/
19:38 Megaf VanessaE; wheres that irrlight is from?
19:38 * Megaf The Grammar Killer
19:38 VanessaE it's the one included with Xubuntu 14.04
19:38 Megaf VanessaE; where did you get irrlicht from?
19:39 Megaf ok
19:39 Megaf VanessaE; get the latest from Irrlicht
19:39 VanessaE no.
19:39 VanessaE that's not the Minetest way.
19:39 Megaf http://sourceforge.net/projects/irrlicht/files/Irrlicht%20SDK/1.8/1.8.1/irrlicht-1.8.1.zip
19:57 SoniEx2 VanessaE, hi mind if I pm?
19:57 VanessaE sure.
19:57 VanessaE Megaf: you guessed wrong.
19:57 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7511835/
19:58 Megaf pff, just more bugs...
19:58 VanessaE any large project will have lots of bugs
19:58 VanessaE it's inevitable.
19:59 VanessaE back off to commit 3939ab6c9d and it's fine.
20:02 Krock try{ sfan5 . compile( https://github.com/Rogier-5/minetest-mapper-cpp ) } catch {}
20:03 Jordach >Uploading 4% 456 minutes remaining.
20:03 Jordach >.<
20:03 Krock Jordach, uploading 1TB or what?
20:03 Jordach 600mb YT video
20:03 Krock ugh, use converters!
20:04 Krock to make it smaller
20:04 Jordach (i don't see how they upload 20 minutes at mp4 and at 1080p with decent quality and without obvious loss)
20:04 Krock k, forget what I said
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20:12 Megaf LazyJ; Hi there :) gold still building there
20:12 Megaf hes been online for several hours today
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20:32 sfan5| Internet broke! :(
20:32 sfan5| Dann ISP
20:33 sfan5| Damn*
20:33 Krock ~seen Krock
20:33 ShadowBot Krock: I saw Krock in #minetest 0 seconds ago saying "~seen Krock"
20:33 Krock <Krock>try{ sfan5 . compile( https://github.com/Rogier-5/minetest-mapper-cpp ) } catch {}
20:34 sfan5| Nah
20:34 sfan5| Not now
20:34 Krock ok
20:34 sfan5| Internet's broken
20:34 Krock never said right now..also can be tomorrow
20:38 smoke_fumus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlTA3rnpgzU
20:39 Jordach silly sfan5
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20:41 Megaf VanessaE; I just cloned it again and compiled, no problem at all
20:41 Megaf cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DBUILD_SERVER=0 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=0 -DENABLE_REDIS=0
20:41 VanessaE you're compiling for ARM, not intel.
20:41 Megaf actually Im on amd64
20:42 * VanessaE shrugs
20:42 VanessaE different distro, different libs order
20:42 Megaf Debian Wheezy
20:43 Megaf apt-cache show libirrlicht-dev
20:43 Megaf Version: 1.7.3+dfsg1-4
20:43 Megaf Architecture: amd64
20:44 Megaf I will compile and try with the latest irrlicht
20:44 Megaf compiling irrlicht
20:45 Megaf done
20:52 Megaf VanessaE; your xubuntu irrlicht is borked
20:52 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/101628/
20:54 Megaf VanessaE; was irrlicht updated recentely?
20:54 VanessaE idk
20:54 VanessaE and this is irrlicht 1.8 I think.
20:55 VanessaE and it works fine from commit 3939ab6c9d on down.
20:55 VanessaE sapier broke it by swapping the order of some libs in the linker
20:55 Megaf whats your xubuntu version?
20:55 VanessaE it's not irrlicht
20:55 VanessaE (and it's xubuntu 14.04)
20:56 Megaf 1.8.1 then http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/irrlicht
20:56 VanessaE it's.  not.  irrlicht.
20:57 Megaf ok, but its interesting, ubuntu uses the very same package of Debian very unstable SID, https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/libs/irrlicht
20:57 VanessaE linkers can behave differently from one distro to another
20:58 VanessaE that's where the error lies, here.
20:58 VanessaE the code compiles just fine
20:59 Megaf proller__; wont you say that freeminer works and its better?
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21:02 diemartin real brogrammers don't need no sleep!
21:04 zat no + no = yes
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21:08 nman3600 hi
21:08 VanessaE hi
21:09 nman3600 have you checked out my mod (multitest)?
21:09 VanessaE not familiar.
21:10 nman3600 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=9334
21:10 VanessaE interesting.
21:11 nman3600 i worked hard on it
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21:12 nman3600 idk what to add in the next update
21:15 nman3600 107 gb left on my hardrive :D i cleared loads of it today
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21:18 VanessaE khonkhortisan: what's the disposition of https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/issues/3 ?
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21:34 sfan5 MinetestBot!
21:34 MinetestBot sfan5!
21:34 sfan5 :O
21:36 MinetestBot GIT: kaeza commited to minetest/minetest: Sort commands and privs alphabetically in '/help'. f0a9e7ddc8 2014-05-24T17:33:59-04:00 http://git.io/liLaqg
21:36 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Rework dumping functions 882e12f8ab 2014-05-24T17:32:42-04:00 http://git.io/EPAndQ
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21:48 Calinou https://mediacru.sh/886bd31d30a4
21:50 Jordach ...is that Garry's Mod?
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22:02 Calinou no :>
22:02 Vazon VanessaE
22:03 * VanessaE hides
22:03 Vazon lol i have a version of my mod that has the ladder on it.
22:03 VanessaE screenies?
22:04 Vazon last night you said you may want to make a new textrue for it on your hd texture pack so i made a dropbox download for you :|
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22:05 VanessaE ok shoot
22:05 zsoltisa1esome hi
22:05 Vazon https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hru2rdhj7lth8e/vcore.zip
22:05 VanessaE hi zs
22:05 Vazon hi zsolt
22:05 zsoltisa1esome Why use Windows when you can have air conditioning?
22:05 zsoltisa1esome Why use Windows, when you can leave through the door?
22:05 zsoltisa1esome -- Konrad Blum
22:05 Calinou bye, night
22:05 zsoltisa1esome :D
22:06 Vazon bye Calinou
22:06 zsoltisa1esome hmm
22:06 VanessaE vcore.zip?  interesting name.
22:07 VanessaE I don't think that's the link you wanted to send me :)
22:07 Vazon mhmm let me look xD
22:07 zsoltisa1esome VanessaE: a more interesting name is EoelWuOqA72g.zip
22:07 zsoltisa1esome lol
22:07 zsoltisa1esome and even more interesting, 42.zip
22:08 * zsoltisa1esome laughs
22:08 VanessaE heh
22:08 zsoltisa1esome VanessaE: you know?
22:08 VanessaE well everyone knows what 42 means
22:08 * VanessaE hands zsoltisa1esome a towel and a babelfish.
22:08 zsoltisa1esome lol
22:10 Vazon https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/vcore.zip?_subject_uid=223698452&amp;w=AAACzdfOZf7Q4XbyCvi4AyiFTi-GIbzFWijKDlbu4xe9Ag&amp;dl=1 mhmmm is that it?
22:10 Vazon im not good with dropbox.
22:10 zsoltisa1esome http://unforgettable.dk/
22:10 zsoltisa1esome ^ VanessaE
22:10 VanessaE Vazon: FAIL
22:11 * Vazon facepalms
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22:11 * CraigyDavi deskpalms
22:12 VanessaE zsoltisa1esome: errrr.....
22:12 VanessaE um.  yeah,.
22:13 CraigyDavi zsoltisa1esome, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Egq_Wyvfwk0l.png
22:13 CraigyDavi That's what happens when you try to extract
22:14 zsoltisa1esome hmm
22:14 zsoltisa1esome i cant see it
22:14 zsoltisa1esome wait
22:15 zsoltisa1esome ah
22:16 CraigyDavi Errors
22:16 zsoltisa1esome windows is full of them
22:17 CraigyDavi Nah
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22:21 Vazon and this is why i hate dropbox -.-
22:21 zsoltisa1esome use MEGA
22:21 zsoltisa1esome hjhmm
22:25 CraigyDavi What's so bad about dropbox? it's great
22:26 Vazon i cant ever find a stupid download link -.-
22:28 Vazon i cant get one that works for me but no one else
22:28 Vazon can*
22:30 Exio4 hasta que no te pase a vos... no vas a entender, siempre asi, tan egoista, hasta que no te pase a vos.. no vas a entender, clasico, individualista~
22:34 Vazon VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/get/vcore.zip?_subject_uid=223698452&amp;w=AAACzdfOZf7Q4XbyCvi4AyiFTi-GIbzFWijKDlbu4xe9Ag&amp;dl=1 try that
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22:34 CraigyDavi Vazon, just find the file in "my files" click it. Then click "share" in the topr right corner and copy the link
22:35 zsoltisa1esome yes
22:35 zsoltisa1esome what he said
22:35 VanessaE Vazon:  FAIL
22:35 Vazon craigy that doesnt work, i have tried it
22:35 VanessaE and why "vcore"?  this doesn't sound like the 3d ladders thing at all
22:36 Vazon VanessaE there is more than just 3d ladders in it, it has other parts as well
22:36 CraigyDavi What do you mean "doesnt work"? When you click it does it not bring up the file with a download link?
22:36 zsoltisa1esome That sounds iffy
22:36 VanessaE ah
22:37 Vazon Craigy for me yes but not for everyone else
22:37 zsoltisa1esome !rainbow Dropbox! I command you to work!
22:37 MinetestBot 4D4r4o7p7b7o8x8!8 3I3 3comm6a6n6d yo4u4 4t7o7 7w8o8r8k3!
22:37 Megaf Vazon; !
22:37 Vazon yes Megaf?
22:37 Megaf Hi
22:37 Megaf :)
22:37 Megaf Vazon; what's the name of that skin mod you are using?
22:38 Vazon unified skins, megaf but its a out dated version that has been modifed
22:38 CraigyDavi Vazon, Right click on it and select "share link"
22:38 Vazon VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/s/1hru2rdhj7lth8e/vcore.zip
22:38 Megaf ok
22:38 Vazon Craigy i have tried that, it will not work
22:38 zsoltisa1esome ^ there you go VanessaE
22:39 zsoltisa1esome CraigyDavi:
22:39 zsoltisa1esome become my humble slave!
22:39 zsoltisa1esome jk
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22:40 zsoltisa1esome tab?
22:40 zsoltisa1esome asie|tab: ^
22:40 asie|tab hi
22:40 asie|tab tablet
22:40 zsoltisa1esome ah
22:40 zsoltisa1esome lucky
22:49 Megaf little help? http://paste.debian.net/101637/
22:49 Megaf with skinsdb mod
22:50 Vazon VanessaE: i gtg for about 2 hours, i hope you like hte mod. I would be fine if you make any tweaks to it, the chest code isnt mine. i couldnt get it coded to be locked so that is one of the main reasons i havent published it yet
22:51 ShadowNinja Megaf: Probably a Python2->3 incompatibility.  Try it with the other version.
22:52 Megaf ShadowNinja; tried python2.7 and 3.2
22:53 Megaf installing python 2.6
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22:59 Megaf nope
22:59 Megaf didnt work
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23:01 Megaf Updating 660e636..f0a9e7d
23:01 Megaf my minetest looks weird now
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23:18 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Works for debian and a few other distributions but fails for even more so back to old order 7fba341dbb 2014-05-25T01:14:47+02:00 http://git.io/keCq2g
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23:23 Vazon ok back
23:30 Vazon VanessaE did you like the 3d ladder or no?
23:34 VanessaE I haven't looked yet
23:34 VanessaE been kinda busy
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23:39 Vazon ok

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